hoi4-general

[terse ether]

youre just producing less than you are using

[marsh ravine]

Would have gone for 3 more carriers

Cos no reason to be below t

5

But its nice

[patent thistle]

its ww1 damit-

[marsh ravine]

Bruh

I thought u did ottomans path

Idk navy meta ww1 but looks good

[patent thistle]

dreadnoughts

[buoyant rivet]

yeah I mistyped, thank you for the help, im researching CAS now

[feral lark]

Yeah, fair. If that fuel is going to the AF. In general I think fuel penalties should be more brutal, but that would also be much more obnoxious if things could just get stuck and you couldn’t move them until you fixed your fuel supply

[terse ether]

i think its more about game balance and less about realism

[marsh ravine]

Personally I think just nerf strats

Fuel thing isnt an issue if strat bombers weren't just better nukes

[feral lark]

Also something to consider: you want cheap as possible CAS, because you will always be losing CAS because of how the math works behind the scenes.

[terse ether]

tbf strats were pretty devastating in ww2

[buoyant rivet]

so dont research jet CAS ?

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[marsh ravine]

Not AN ENTIRE CONTINENT WORTH OF FACTORIES tho

For 40 mils

[feral lark]

If you are at that point, you have enough industry to win anyway tbh, so do what you want

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[marsh ravine]

I think its jet hf that is food

Good

But iirc u do axial jet

[terse ether]

jet planes are terrible

[marsh ravine]

Normal jet yeh

Ik axial jet has some uses

And supersonic is v good just future tech

[feral lark]

Jet fighters can be okay in some circumstances because of the boosts to agility

[marsh ravine]

I think its ic wise they lose our

Out

Just like how cannons r not good cos of ic

[feral lark]

I can believe that

[buoyant rivet]

I mean surely they will get jet fighters as well?

[marsh ravine]

U overestimate the ai

And their ability to use a designer

[feral lark]

You would think that, wouldn’t you?

[buoyant rivet]

Yes...?

[marsh ravine]

Spoiler they cant

[feral lark]

(They don’t)

[marsh ravine]

At all

[serene token]

Why?

[feral lark]

Ask paradox

[terse ether]

theyre super expensive and have shit range

[buoyant rivet]

That is deeply dissapointing

I wont research jets then

[serene token]

Isn't Chiv a dev for Hoi4?

[buoyant rivet]

gotta give them an even playing field

[feral lark]

Anyway this is ignoring the true answer, which is mothership aircraft

[terse ether]

supersonics are good tho

[marsh ravine]

Giving them an even playing field is inting ur industry till 39 and doing 9/3 only

If you wanna fight an ai that is good play sheep's mod, if you just want a hard challenge play like CA mod or something

[feral lark]

I usually end up doing it, but again, at that point i know I will win regardless and I can do stupid things like 5 lines of Land Cruiser chassis

[patent thistle]

me think its very obvious who i will support

[lucid ivy]

is rt56 a good mod

[marsh ravine]

The challenge mods cheat for the ai iirc, but its the best way to make the ai truly difficult iirc

[marsh ravine]

Its v unbalanced

[buoyant rivet]

is that the one that sarts u in ww1?

[marsh ravine]

But if you have fun in it you can have fun in it

[marsh ravine]

Nope

[lucid ivy]

i am kinda bored with no dlc vanilla which mod is good

[buoyant rivet]

whichever one does that is BRUTAL, it takes hours

[marsh ravine]

1936-1956

[buoyant rivet]

so korean war

and...?

[lucid ivy]

its great war redux and is not bad tbh

[patent thistle]

its a rework of the interwar and ww2 timeline with some early coldwar content included

[marsh ravine]

Its "vanilla+" but its got alot different from vanilla

Infantry is alr so much more op

And iirc tanks r worse

Like the best thing in the game is like a mech shock trooper or something

You can definitely have fun in it but from a balance pov its horrendous

[patent thistle]

there is one good thing in the mod,

[lucid ivy]

which mod is good for that vanilla+ experience

[marsh ravine]

Its a content mod and imo it does good at that

[patent thistle]

the turkish tree

[feral lark]

Give me my GDRs

[marsh ravine]

Wdym by vanilla+

Better ai? More focuses? More realism?

[terse ether]

its good if you dont have dlc

[lucid ivy]

yea

[marsh ravine]

Which one😭

[lucid ivy]

More focueses and realism

[marsh ravine]

Oh

Rt56 had alot of focuses

[terse ether]

black ice 🔥

[lucid ivy]

instead of some alternative ww2 bs that paradox gives

[marsh ravine]

Idk abt realism cos I'm not that into history

[lucid ivy]

nah

[terse ether]

yes

[buoyant rivet]

so close

[marsh ravine]

Umm ultra hist

[terse ether]

you said realism

[marsh ravine]

I think

[buoyant rivet]

two more countries

[lucid ivy]

its not even ww2

[marsh ravine]

Is like that

[patent thistle]

exclude the better AI bit, and add pain and you got the great war redux mod

[wraith mauve]

Old polish industry or new?

[marsh ravine]

Lmao😂

[marsh ravine]

What's the bonuses?

[lucid ivy]

yea about not micro managing

[patent thistle]

am i wrong-

[marsh ravine]

Idk off top or my head

[marsh ravine]

Nope

Ive played it

You literally just deathstack push

[feral lark]

Realism isn’t necessarily the same as historical, imo.

[marsh ravine]

With cas

[terse ether]

you want realism but no micro?

[marsh ravine]

In my experience

I havent looked at it

[wraith mauve]

Old gives like 2 Civs 3 mile 5 building slots

[flat barn]

WHAT EVEN HAPPENE

[marsh ravine]

But arty might be better in gwr cos of lower gun stats?

I haven't checked thi

[feral lark]

Looks pretty normal to me

[lucid ivy]

i mean realism like historical accuracy and lil more features

[wraith mauve]

New gives4 mils 4 Civs 7 building slots

[terse ether]

black ice is the closest youll get to a real life warfare simulation

but its not for everyone

[patent thistle]

we also have howitzers

in that mod

[marsh ravine]

I swear those r way too expensive tho

[lucid ivy]

exactly its not for me, i am still at 200 hours

😭

[marsh ravine]

Lemme look at the stats (if I have it installed still)

[terse ether]

you can use a bunch of sub mods for more flavor if thats what you want

idk about focuses

[lucid ivy]

any suggestions for sub mods

[terse ether]

youre gonna need an overhaul for that

[buoyant rivet]

huh I can do the confederation instead.. which is better?

[terse ether]

the better mechanics collection is pretty cool

but some of it lacks balance

[lucid ivy]

thanks ig

[terse ether]

you can look up steam collections

just look up realism or historical

@lucid ivy

in the workshop collections section

[marsh ravine]

Do they give anything other than cores? If not just go for whatever gives the better cores (pop and resources and factories)

[terse ether]

you can do both i believe

[buoyant rivet]

I dont want to risk that ngl and Bolivar sounds cooler so I will just wait for that

[lucid ivy]

map mods ?

[sharp sierra]

astizels map mod

[patent thistle]

ah yes a totally realistic military factories to dockyard ratio (blame that sh1tty event)

[lucid ivy]

nation ?

[wraith mauve]

Who thinks ima we in

Win

[serene token]

0% chance.

[wraith mauve]

Bruh

Ok wtv

[serene token]

Show me what you're playing as?

[marsh ravine]

btw howi is useless

mp break

its a big fake

[patent thistle]

ottomans great war redux

[marsh ravine]

and field gun is 2w

[flat barn]

why wont argentina take the bait?

tf?

[marsh ravine]

something close to this seems aight

1914 tech

[patent thistle]

i tend to never use howi

[marsh ravine]

no doctrine

[marsh ravine]

good

its horrendous

double the soft

nothing else

literally worse in everything else

and bigger width so its more like only a 1/3 more sof tor whatever

[patent thistle]

okay thats really shit

[marsh ravine]

yeh

💀

[marsh ravine]

i personally dont like how low hp is

but cos def seems so ez to get in this mod making a couple of these

might actually work if u can crit

at least during day time

would make pushing WAT easier

WAY

[patent thistle]

doom music starts playing

[serene token]

Ultrakill music starts playing

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-smile-gif-11401179400597532886

[serene token]

Okay, what game is better, Ultrakill or Doom?

[marsh ravine]

BRO GUN0 IS BASED

[sharp sierra]

quake 2

[marsh ravine]

COMPARED TO GUN1

[serene token]

I'll add Dusk onto that list as well.

[marsh ravine]

ITS 3 LESS DEF AND 1 LESS SOFT

LITERAL FAKE GUN

LIKE 3% STAT INCREASE OR SOMETHING STUPID

yeh ur attack is alw really bad

idk how u crit in this mod

[sharp sierra]

just because of quake 2's soundtrack it clears all of em

[buoyant rivet]

what period is this set in lmao? 18-19 century?

[marsh ravine]

ww1 mod

[terse ether]

i think air is really good in this mod

because everyones airforce is tiny

[buoyant rivet]

huh

what is it called?

[marsh ravine]

yeh it deffo is

also

if u can get around the hp

field gun is broken

[terse ether]

idk about tanks

[marsh ravine]

u NEVER get crit

cos all the passives are 10% def

[terse ether]

lol

[marsh ravine]

jsut get arty expert for 10?% attack

+inf expert

and u should win

cos then u crit

maybe even have some howi

[patent thistle]

common ottoman W?

[marsh ravine]

cos like

[terse ether]

howis got nerfed iirc

[marsh ravine]

i tihnk if u do 1 howi

[terse ether]

they used to be busted

[marsh ravine]

3 arty

rest inf

make it 35w

i think u can get enough soft to crit

and cos defense and break are the same

all ur def passvies become ur break and u NEVER get crit

cos break is rly diff to get in this mod

harder than attack imo

[terse ether]

yeah

sounds right

[marsh ravine]

its like 7 less break

made up for passives

and then 12 more soft

yes alot more expensive

but i think with modifiers

u can carry

150 base soft is nice

for 1914

[buoyant rivet]

which boats can help me with a land invasion?

[marsh ravine]

capitals they give shore bombardment

[buoyant rivet]

like how modern day navies can do bombardments

[buoyant rivet]

Awesome thank you

[marsh ravine]

jsut go sit ur navy

[buoyant rivet]

which ships are capital

[patent thistle]

italy not feeling so good rn

[marsh ravine]

next to the tile

[worn coral]

guys

[marsh ravine]

heavy cruisre battleship battlecruiser carrier

screens also give it

[worn coral]

theres something wrong with my game

[marsh ravine]

but less

jsut move ur whole navy

to the tile u r invading

[worn coral]

its a bug i think

[patent thistle]

oof forgot france also explodes after ww1 here

[buoyant rivet]

Ok I guessed carrier, thank you for the help

[terse ether]

kaiserreich ending

[patent thistle]

... how is RUSSIA more stabile then france rn

(and ofcourse they hate me which is expected)

[terse ether]

yep, thats definitely kaisereich

[visual imp]

yp

yo

[worn coral]

DAMN

IM COOKED

[visual imp]

does anyone have time to teach me on why im losing battles?

[worn coral]

THE GERMAN REICH DECLARED WAR ON ME AND ALL MY TROOPS ARE ON ASIA

[marsh ravine]

bro why did they make arty actually good

if u do field gun

[patent thistle]

rip?

[patent thistle]

except for the part that the ottomans are almost stronger then germany

[terse ether]

based

[marsh ravine]

yeh like doesnt look bad @patent thistle

[serene token]

Where's Syndicalist France?

[wraith mauve]

U said right side for mass assult right?

[marsh ravine]

yes

mass mobilisation

[wraith mauve]

10 days until I can sweep the Germans

[patent thistle]

commune of france are them here

[worn coral]

do i use human ai?

[marsh ravine]

bro i dont think u ever crit in this 😭 if they have entrench

i gave them max entrench and i force attack with 40% planning

😭

[terse ether]

oh yeah

they get +20 entrenchement iirc

[marsh ravine]

they have like starting tech

i ahve 1914 tech

[terse ether]

from a single node

[patent thistle]

F for being weaker then russia

[wary sparrow]

woah it happened naturally

[marsh ravine]

i gave them busted gens 😭

okay i still win but like barely i think

u unironically bounce

if u dont constanty force attack

💀

[terse ether]

thats pretty rare

[patent thistle]

im pretty sure it collapes again the second you recapture france

[marsh ravine]

and they dont reinforce

[terse ether]

even if they reinforce they lose all their entrenchement

[patent thistle]

guys which france should i support?

[marsh ravine]

ik but its like 300 def normally for them

[terse ether]

so you only have to fight them once

[marsh ravine]

and like 180 soft for u

normally

u like never crit

[terse ether]

fair enough

would tanks work

[marsh ravine]

in 1914?

[terse ether]

yeah

[marsh ravine]

im doing this with 1914 tech

i dont think u can get tanks then

[terse ether]

idk about 1914 tho

[marsh ravine]

tanks r op

thats how i win in this mod

tanks and air

[terse ether]

i think its the only way to crit

[marsh ravine]

cos noone has at

but yeh i think in like 1914

arty stacking could be the way

[wary sparrow]

bros desperate askign bulgaria for manpower lol

[marsh ravine]

and u just ignore hp

so u never force attack

[terse ether]

yep

[marsh ravine]

pray u dont lose veterancy

[terse ether]

but be ready for tons of losses

[marsh ravine]

cos if they can get 700 def if lucky

yeh ofc

[flat barn]

im borred asf

[marsh ravine]

i think u get screwed

[marsh ravine]

if this happens

u just go push somewhere else

[azure elbow]

ottomans almost took whole europe

[marsh ravine]

or move divs away to bait ai into attacking u

[azure elbow]

only if it wasnt their obsession with vienna

[terse ether]

actually that could be the play

[marsh ravine]

trvthnvke incoming 🔥

double combat as well

🔥

[terse ether]

let them lose entrenchement

[marsh ravine]

cos u can deploy divs on the tile

if u have some in training

attack with them

delete

repeat

[terse ether]

hell yeah

[marsh ravine]

but like idk how u ever lose in this mod

u just stack def everywhere

and go afk

[patent thistle]

and north africa

[marsh ravine]

u never get crit even by tank i think

if u have enough arty

cos every single passive is 10%

[terse ether]

immovable object vs immovable object type situation

[marsh ravine]

and it has more def than inf

[patent thistle]

and some of central africa/east africa (sudan, eritrea)

[marsh ravine]

iirc its 16def on field gun 2 vs 13 def on gun1 (which is 1910 tech but gun2 is 1916 tech)

even then its only like 2 or 3 more def

so then its equal

when u get arty earlier

i think u just dont swap till gun3

or something

so u can go higher on arty

[terse ether]

sounds about right

[marsh ravine]

literally gun3 is 5 soft

gun0 is 1 soft

its barely a diff u dont crit no matter what

[patent thistle]

more italian suffering yay

[terse ether]

your attack will be mostly from the arty anyways

[marsh ravine]

oh u can get op reserves no matter doctrine in this

ez win

just pick that

and go like 6 arty or something

[patent thistle]

THATS WHAT YOU F ING GET FOR TRYING TO TAKE LIBYA

[terse ether]

doesnt sound very balanced

[marsh ravine]

sorry its 2 soft so the increase is even worse

gun3 is 19 def

and 1918 tech

[terse ether]

whats gun0 dzf

[marsh ravine]

arty 3 is 15 def

[terse ether]

def

[marsh ravine]

abd 1917 tech

[marsh ravine]

10

def is the only thing that goes up

[terse ether]

yeah

[marsh ravine]

inf is literally just hp brick in this

cos arty also gets more def

cos of passives

[terse ether]

what kind of passives are we talking about

[marsh ravine]

by 1914 its 4% def on inf

bs 10% def on arty

[terse ether]

its being a while since i played thus

[marsh ravine]

worst case scenario

[marsh ravine]

research

[terse ether]

oh

[marsh ravine]

ts

all of this stuff

[terse ether]

defense is not a problem in this mod

[marsh ravine]

yeh not at all

but my point is arty outstats inf in EVERYTHING

ofc it does in break

[terse ether]

yeah

[marsh ravine]

thats a no bariner

brainer

and soft

but even def

is crazy

[terse ether]

arty in ww1 was the queen of the battlefield

[marsh ravine]

i wanna see how much i lose if i go 200hp

and like 5 arty

or something stupid

instead of 400hp

[terse ether]

who cares about hp

[marsh ravine]

itd be more like 10 arty

but eh

[marsh ravine]

idk

[terse ether]

you get plenty of everything

only problem is veterancy

[marsh ravine]

i mean it can only be offense divs obvi

[sudden falcon]

oh my god

the old great war redux

is back

[marsh ravine]

itd be like making tanks but earlier

[sudden falcon]

only had to downgrade my hoi4 version to a bolivar beta

[terse ether]

old?

isnt it still being updated

[sudden falcon]

yes and thats why it sucks

they removed all the fun paths

like backstab

[terse ether]

oh

i think i heard of this

[marsh ravine]

cant force attack but thats not bad for 0 doctrine

yeh u have to cycle

[sudden falcon]

they removed these

and a bunch of other stuff

so the mod wasnt fun

[terse ether]

obv

i dont think u get much brk

[marsh ravine]

u lose nothing @terse ether

[marsh ravine]

i only have 1 passive

thats why

[sudden falcon]

i dont care that these focus trees are like 5 focuses long, its the nostalgia

[marsh ravine]

i still have a slight bit more

than their attack

so its fine

as long as its nto a player lmao

[terse ether]

last time i played it i was the ottomans

won the first balkan war

but the game didnt let me keep anything

so i crashed out

[gilded vessel]

i hate when you have the chat open in multiplayer and you press the up arrow to move it selects your previous chats

[marsh ravine]

this means like hp might be fake

so u can do whatever

[terse ether]

huh

thats odd

[marsh ravine]

like i lsot nothing

[terse ether]

maybe try to force attack

[marsh ravine]

i wonder what happens if i force attack

[terse ether]

yeah

[marsh ravine]

im training up to have +25% stats

cos u can just do the thing with manpower

i think

to keep xp

[terse ether]

hmm

interesting

[marsh ravine]

cos i think then

u may cook ai

cos they wont train i dont think

[terse ether]

why would hp work differently

in this mod

[marsh ravine]

0 clue

but 200hp

i was getting crit a tiny bit

didnt matter

lost like 9 arty

thats ntohing

thats 22.5ic

and then another 19ic of howui

howi

[terse ether]

maybe they did it to make arty more plausible?

[marsh ravine]

idk if im messing something up

[serene token]

The Gods of Olympus have abandoned me.

[marsh ravine]

probably

cos theyve alr done alot

to make arty good

[terse ether]

yeah

[marsh ravine]

like 2w

defense

break

balanced soft

okay yeh jsut train

560 soft

yeh arty is the way forward in this

I LOST 46 EQUIPMENT

THATS NOTHING

THE OTHER 3 BATTLES WERE 0 LOSSES AT ALL

[terse ether]

well

looks like you werent critted

at all

that battle

[marsh ravine]

bro

im not losing hp

from force attack

💀

GER HAS ARTY EXPERT

force attack but like 3% planning

okay so abt 200hp is 200 soft

is what u r trading in template

and hp doesnt matter

[terse ether]

youre not getting crit

[marsh ravine]

ik

its stupid

i did force attack

not last staand]]

[terse ether]

and hp is useless for some reason

[marsh ravine]

OH

FORCE ATTACK GIVES 25% BREAK

SO U ALWAYS FORCE ATTACK

[golden berry]

anyone wanna do mp

1936 hist

[terse ether]

still no idea how they did that

hp is like game code

[marsh ravine]

probably nuked it if u dont get crit

like the hp loss

[terse ether]

yeah

prob some hidden modifier

[marsh ravine]

yes it is

im losing strength

on the low arty divs

so higher hp

cos i get crit by one of their divs

20% strength loss in ttotal

battle aint evne over

60% strength loss spread across 3 divs

[terse ether]

what

im confused

[marsh ravine]

each div

lost 20% strength

total 60% strength lsot split between 3 divs

[terse ether]

im guessing no brk

[marsh ravine]

yes

if u get crit

u die

[terse ether]

but u did get crit earlier

[marsh ravine]

if u have like no inifnite hp

[marsh ravine]

ik

[rich sand]

how do i transport troops into england? i have carried out the orders and i'm pretty sure 400 convoy ships are enough lol (also i have no idea how i got those 10 divisions there)

[marsh ravine]

i only lost like 10% strength a div then

maybe its by how much?

u get crit

[terse ether]

here

[marsh ravine]

u can see i lost a tiny bit of strength

but it was like nothing in comparison?

[terse ether]

yeah

[marsh ravine]

this is the div i use for reference

[coral gorge]

it only increases your damage taken by 60%

if you don't take much damage in the first place then it isn't a problem

[marsh ravine]

ahh

so just arty v good cos ur break and def goes super high

so u take less damage

[terse ether]

you got crit by about 100 attack here

[coral gorge]

nah you can still die

break isn't damage immunity

[marsh ravine]

all the dmg went into org?

[marsh ravine]

but its less than getting crit?

[terse ether]

could be the case?

[marsh ravine]

like if u do inf bricks

[gilded vessel]

how do i tell someone that declaring war on czechoslovakia is worse than doing the focuses

[marsh ravine]

i think u get crit

when attacking

[marsh ravine]

"do you want land for free or do you want to pay for it"

[coral gorge]

arty gets crit too, since it has less break

[marsh ravine]

in gwr?

we are talking gwr

[gilded vessel]

he says he doesnt want to get 700k troops beacuse he wont have enough resources to supply his old troops

[coral gorge]

in GWR inf just doesn't have soft

💀

[marsh ravine]

ik 😭

gun3 is 5 soft

[rich sand]

are those icons on the stats a mod?

[marsh ravine]

might be idk

i have like 10 visual mods on

[serene token]

Hmm

[marsh ravine]

idk which one it is

[rich sand]

oh

[marsh ravine]

i think its in cosmo map mod?

also has naval invasion hotkey

[umbral agate]

how many coast guards for this?

i got 450 cuz they are spamming invasions

[marsh ravine]

as many to fill combat width?

[coral gorge]

ok, let's assume it has more break, you still can't do pure arty very often anyway,

100 uncritted attack is still lotta damage on 30 HP

[umbral agate]

fair enough

[coral gorge]

if they last stand you, everyone is fked

but they are inf

[marsh ravine]

is this div not fine?

[coral gorge]

that's fine

[marsh ravine]

if u force attack

[coral gorge]

200 HP is good

[marsh ravine]

u get enough

break

to not get crit

BARELY

just force attack

whenever u attack

[buoyant lodge]

is my army strong enough to defeat poland

11 tankis and 124 inf divs

[marsh ravine]

in vanilla isnt that just liek horrendous?

just for reference

[sudden thistle]

Nah

More

U need 29.58 tanks

[buoyant lodge]

sir yes sir

[coral gorge]

you can't have too much attack in GWR anyway

as long as you don't grind big divs vs their big divs, you can never take too much damage in GWR

[void canyon]

albania

[buoyant lodge]

should i ignore this odd thing?

[marsh ravine]

aight thats nice

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

Not important

[marsh ravine]

unless u r at 0 manpower its fake

[sudden thistle]

What even is manpower

[void canyon]

try conscripting children

[buoyant lodge]

bacon has a good point here

[marsh ravine]

and even then u should know u r at low manpower

[buoyant lodge]

even if it nears 0, i always ahve children

women

and handicapped individuals

who i can draft

[void canyon]

exactlyyy

is japan done for?

[patent thistle]

thats about how my ottoman game went (at the start)

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[void canyon]

good luck fr 🙏

[patent thistle]

it isnt even gonna be that hard-

[void canyon]

oh wait is that kaiserreich

[lyric shell]

Alles klar.

[patent thistle]

aftermath of great war redux central powers victory

[lyric shell]

Hoi4 - 23 hours - Insane.

[patent thistle]

happends when i leave the game on and dont turn off my laptop

[buoyant lodge]

schizo hoi4 atp

[void canyon]

oh they done for

[patent thistle]

happend to me at a far worse scale for example

[void canyon]

how does your pc take it

[patent thistle]

i dont know

all i know is i have it for like 7 years a this point

[void canyon]

why is turkey part of the permanent UNSC

[buoyant lodge]

bomb bomb bomb

bomb bomb turkey

[void canyon]

guess what country i am (its up there and not turkey)

[buoyant lodge]

your name is bacon

and you have BST as your tag

so my final guess

is USA

[void canyon]

❌

UK

shouldve checked my bio

[buoyant lodge]

dang

[buoyant lodge]

any tips on how i can get this fast

today is my first time ever playing

[void canyon]

i know you need azerbaijan for the oil and macedonia for the chromium but i dont have a tutorial

just world conquest

[patent thistle]

simple, you dont even go that path

[sudden grotto]

Kill allies

And usa

[buoyant lodge]

fuarrrkkk okay

[void canyon]

if you dont wanna deal with it and cant take stuff fast go left path

[buoyant lodge]

the prioritize economic growth?

[void canyon]

yes

but idk i havent really done that path

[sudden grotto]

They basically give you buffs but First lots of goods debuffs

[quiet vessel]

if irl had a world tension meter like hoi4 whats world tension rn and who made most

[foggy onyx]

ive capitulated belgium, but im still at war with belgian congo?

[void canyon]

capitulate them

[uneven basin]

why are there some multiplayer servers 1/9999?

[void canyon]

open multiplayer servers with no player cap but only host in them or something idk

[uneven basin]

????????????

also how come nobody is hosting mp its a weekend

[golden berry]

we are

hist game

[uneven basin]

doesnt show

[golden berry]

do you wanna join

[uneven basin]

uhh i already turned off my pc sorry

[dawn olive]

what is available

[golden berry]

pretty much every major

[dawn olive]

word

where do i join

[golden berry]

i dmd you it

the server id

[patent thistle]

nah my laptop aint suffering

[foggy onyx]

help

i capitulated them

but

i didnt get the peace conference

💔

[void canyon]

uh oh

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

where is the last major?

[foggy onyx]

there are no majords

majors

they joined the allies

[mild plaza]

Check who's a major in the war

[foggy onyx]

but im not at war with the allies

no one is major

[slim nexus]

are you sure?

[foggy onyx]

yes

[mild plaza]

Then you'll need to cap the allies

[slim nexus]

indeed

[foggy onyx]

im restarting my hoi4 now

[mild plaza]

And one of the allies is definitely a major

[heavy vigil]

Whats the issue

[mild plaza]

So you'll need to cap them

[foggy onyx]

i cant even invade the allies

im democratic

[void canyon]

i think it might be like a

ethiopia situation

[mild plaza]

Aren't you at war with them?

[heavy vigil]

I dont know what the issue even is

[patent thistle]

how morally acceptable would you guys think is it if i used the console to murder austria?

[void canyon]

deserved

[foggy onyx]

no they joined the allies but im not at war with them

[heavy vigil]

Was france in a faction?

[heavy vigil]

Oh

[foggy onyx]

i invaded france

[heavy vigil]

Then theyre in exile

Democratic faction leader > exile government

[foggy onyx]

uhm

[mild plaza]

@foggy onyx what does the war screen show?

[foggy onyx]

how do i get rid of that

[heavy vigil]

Capitulate uk

[heavy vigil]

Yeah

[foggy onyx]

im not at war witzh them and im democratic

[heavy vigil]

Theyll get called in

Most likely

[foggy onyx]

alright

ill just do this real quick

so the world tension goes to 100

[haughty arrow]

drawing mussolini rn

[serene token]

Does anyone have any good medium tank templates?

[patent thistle]

ze little bit overkill?

[void canyon]

a little bit overkill hans

[patent thistle]

only ze very little

[void canyon]

ja es ist nicht zu much

[void canyon]

go into youtube and search "hoi4 tank tutorial" and itll probably help 👍

[patent thistle]

anyways, its time to die

[bright arrow]

How are you green?

[patent thistle]

(i let them build up troops on the border cause i am nice)

[patent thistle]

sultan path

[bright arrow]

Aren't the ottomans like a deep red?

[foggy onyx]

must have been the wind..

[bright arrow]

Is that KX or KR?

[patent thistle]

TGW

[void canyon]

"great war redux aftermath: central powers victory" apparently or something similar

[bright arrow]

Oh ahaha your already after the war

[serene token]

Ight

[vernal rapids]

Rate the borders 😂

[bright arrow]

I just saw Poland, divided italy and Ukraine and assumed it was a ww2 mod

[void canyon]

just because its quite opinion based in the discord i think

[void canyon]

best ive seen in years

[bright arrow]

Italy must be crying that they lost Dalmatia to the croats

[vernal rapids]

😂

[vernal rapids]

Next is the soveits but I tried they have way more than me 🤣

[void canyon]

"i have everything and nothing" lol

[vernal rapids]

So gotta buff up my army

[bright arrow]

The whole point of the war is getting dalmatia, only for it to be the only thing they are missing, so yes accurate

[void canyon]

they have the entire levant and greece and south france but just not dalmatia

[vernal rapids]

There italys puppet so I mean

Technically they have it

[glossy void]

Why does it say I have 0 divisions assigned to my naval invasion when I literally created the order with my army

[void canyon]

give them 5 years and they'll annex it then

[glossy void]

I have naval and air supremecy

[void canyon]

max planning or lacking tech

delete all orders and try again

lleft click port -> right click landing area -> enter

[vernal rapids]

What would yall say is the best way to take out late game Russia?

[bright arrow]

Have you researched naval invasion tech?

[void canyon]

with the divs selected

[void canyon]

also wouldnt suggest tanks for landing

[bright arrow]

Or do you have any other naval invasions planned?

[void canyon]

get marines or infantry on the beach then the tanks

[bright arrow]

1st level only allows 10 total divisions assigned to naval invasions

[glossy void]

Oh ye I do

to norway

Thats why?

[bright arrow]

If you only have level 1 invasion tech, then you can only have 10 divs at a time assigned

So when you create other naval invasions it can't assign any new units to it

[gritty karma]

i'm cleaning up my Italy save for achievements as fascist italy, got 2 already and now getting 3rd with control entire US but i found bug lmao this DLC is almost year old and it's bugged

[patent thistle]

HEY, ITALY, LEAVE ALBANIA OR I AM GONNA TOUCH YOU

[void canyon]

cant wait to get this

[glossy void]

Oh that kinda screws me up

thx

[bright arrow]

You can increase cap by upgrading to level 2. I think the lvl 2 cap is smth like 40 divs

[gritty karma]

ok time to get this bad boy

[glossy void]

Ye doing that rn

[void canyon]

thats for weight cap

eventually no matter what you reach a max planning cap

[patent thistle]

welp

[sudden falcon]

lfg

ive lost less men than austria hungary somehow

[patent thistle]

oh right, forgot about you ukraine. anyways.

also there is a reason i keep the console on, TGWR doesnt allow dam puppeting.

[buoyant lodge]

europe will be mine

[sudden falcon]

austria hungary has like 2 army groups attacking serbia 24/7 with all red bubbles

[buoyant lodge]

with one single blow

[sudden falcon]

now get transylvania and the yugoslavian states

[patent thistle]

dont think the habsburgs are feeling so well

[buoyant lodge]

not sure if my navy can kill the royal one

[azure elbow]

200 ottoman divisions on your doorstep

would you be feeling cute?

[marsh ravine]

Doubt it

Also get the subs out of that fleet

[void canyon]

i'd pee myself 👍

[buoyant lodge]

i don't understand the navy

[fallow cove]

Yo guys why was Hitler remplaced by Himmler in my game

Im on historical

[buoyant lodge]

the subs are for killing battleships?

and battlecruiisers?

[marsh ravine]

Thats why I told you what to do

No?!

They kill convoys

They should be in a super fleet cos they kill positioning of your surface ships

[buoyant lodge]

wat a super fleet

[marsh ravine]

I cant type jesus

Seperate

Separate

[buoyant lodge]

alr

[void canyon]

put capital ships and stuff in one fleet

and submarines in another

make submarines convoy raid

surface ships do everything else

[buoyant lodge]

roger sir

who do u think is gonna win this war

[void canyon]

miracle on the vistula 2 the electric boogaloo

[buoyant lodge]

OH YES

YOU'RE RIGHT

1.4m field MP focused on russia

why is poland selling so hard

[cloud tendon]

ai recommedation for luxembourg 🥀

cheap???

[void canyon]

"cheap" "40 width"

[heavy vigil]

Dont listen to ai

[void canyon]

this is incorrect

[eternal palm]

10 mech and 10 arty is 50w 💀

[void canyon]

i love when ai is dumb and can't do math

[eternal palm]

AI obv doesn't know that

[marsh ravine]

What about 10 mech/motorised and 10 artillery though?

[eternal palm]

It's source is also reddit so it's basically useless

[void canyon]

this is why the discord exists

because we're not redditarded

[cloud tendon]

but actually i need a off div for benelux for pushing germany and france

[eternal palm]

Yea Idk either, good template on paper

:clueless;

[marsh ravine]

😂

[sharp sierra]

discord exists to make all the teens bisexual

[eternal palm]

Has good soft

Idk why u laughing

[cloud tendon]

wont it be like 20 org?

10 line arty is crazy work

[eternal palm]

Less

And no hp

[void canyon]

and help new players to the game obviously

[cloud tendon]

real glass cannon

[eternal palm]

Actually maybe cuz 10 mech is a lot of hp

[slim nexus]

lets see how bad this could be

[marsh ravine]

What?

[eternal palm]

And an expensive one at that

[sharp sierra]

i said nothing about the hoi4 server

[void canyon]

ah ok

[ancient apex]

anyone to play multiplayer?

[grand basalt]

hey guys i have a question which dlc should i buy if i wanna play hungary or yugoslavia?

[slim nexus]

i mean it aint horrible

[patent thistle]

my new puppets and my old romanian puppet

[heavy vigil]

No thats bad

Very bad

[marsh ravine]

Outdated is main issue

[slim nexus]

yea

[heavy vigil]

44w tanks

Its horrid

[marsh ravine]

And it obvi doesnt know the width but all the width is wrong

[marsh ravine]

Its judt from old update

It was good then

[heavy vigil]

12/10

Was never good

[patent thistle]

the basic infantry is OK, but the rest gets worse and worse, you are f ing greece-

[marsh ravine]

44w was good

[patent thistle]

also, 14/4s??

seriously?

[slim nexus]

macedonian empire

[heavy vigil]

Tommykay meta

[marsh ravine]

Its ai

[patent thistle]

its been ages i heard from them

[marsh ravine]

The ai doesnt know anything

[patent thistle]

lets be host the second you done the formable you will leave,

[eternal palm]

14/4 💀

[patent thistle]

cause you basically killed the world mostly

[marsh ravine]

25w

[eternal palm]

AI is truly stuck in 2017

[slim nexus]

yea…

[eternal palm]

Lmao

[patent thistle]

me think thats enough of that ottoman game

[eternal palm]

Well at least the support companies are good

[slim nexus]

ngl the first time i tried macedonian empire i went democratic by accident 😭

[eternal palm]

Lol

[patent thistle]

lol-

[slim nexus]

got stuck at hellas since i did the crush facist decision

[tame marlin]

neuron activation

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[uncut pollen]

Nice encirclement

[dusky burrow]

Nooooooooooooooooo

[loud shuttle]

give me a european country to play

or north american

[dusky burrow]

Any mods?

[loud shuttle]

vanilla + some mods

and one very special mod

a very good one

[flat barn]

hi

[loud shuttle]

what tanks are u using blud

[marsh ravine]

Costa Rica

[loud shuttle]

didnt say central america

[tame marlin]

ifv and spg go brrrr

[marsh ravine]

Its above Colombia so its north america to me

[loud shuttle]

okay let me be more specific: any european country, + usa, argetina and maybe red / yellow china

[flat barn]

ohohoho! they accepted

[marsh ravine]

Albania

[marsh ravine]

That's bad😭

Now u need to mental justify

[loud shuttle]

okay

hnmm

okay before i continue just know im very picky with countries

and albania is not it

something with content

[marsh ravine]

Yugoslavia

[loud shuttle]

ok yugoslavia

i have a mod for it so great

what path?

[marsh ravine]

Democratic

[flat barn]

W

[fallow cove]

you should have annexed some

[flat barn]

can he win?

[flat barn]

i did

[heady blade]

when is the new dlc releasing?

[patent thistle]

was i too nice to austria in the peacedeal? (they are my puppet anyways)

[runic spoke]

luckiest carpathian ukraine game ever lol

literally everything went right

[flat barn]

ooo

[flat barn]

november

[fickle cove]

someone say a country (from base game) and i'll play it

(if it has a unique focus tree)

[runic spoke]

👎

generic focus tree rules

[fickle cove]

ah you were gonna say bulgaria?

[runic spoke]

no, bulgaria has a tree

maybe u could play hungary

hungary is pretty fun

[fickle cove]

perhaps

[runic spoke]

bro ukraine doesnt have core on crimea

what did paradox mean by this

[fickle cove]

i pulled the pin out of the grenade, ON PURPOSE

[fickle cove]

crimea wasn't ukrainian until 1950-something

it was part of the russian ssr

[runic spoke]

ye ik

but i need the core 😢

[fickle cove]

that's why

(probably)

(maybe)

wasn't that hard

[uneven basin]

annex all

[void canyon]

since when do they accept!?

[fickle cove]

ME? ANNEX ALL?

NEVERRRRR!!!

[void canyon]

annex all? never even heard of it!

[uneven basin]

is anyone hosting mp btw

why this game so dead on weekend

.,,,

[void canyon]

cheese pizza

[eternal palm]

Mfw there's literally a 20+ player mp game going on right now 💀

U just in the wrong channel

[uneven basin]

for me nothing pops up in multiplayer section

all just 1/9999 servers for whatever reason

[eternal palm]

Omg

Don't check the game, check discord bro

[pearl flume]

This focus is kinda useless

[patent thistle]

had to murder italy rq for trying to take a piece of albania

[dusky burrow]

screw you hitler

[pearl flume]

op