hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

real

[silk walrus]

gwr are not active here

[random venture]

i just wanna play tno but no matter what i try it doesnt fking work

[sharp sierra]

the new odor

the noob oder

[rancid bramble]

Got tho

[patent thistle]

dont care i just needed to send it somewere

[flat barn]

valid

[bright arrow]

Have you tried uninstalling it and re-installing it?

[random venture]

yes

[bright arrow]

TNO is also heavy af

[random venture]

the mod and the game

[bright arrow]

I remember it was super slow to run

[random venture]

then i deleted the paradox folders in app data and documents

[sharp sierra]

any openttd fans

[random venture]

still nothing

[random venture]

ive played it its way to easy to get rich

[wary sparrow]

ngl i thought it was project zomboid

[sharp sierra]

then make it hard

[bright arrow]

Oh i loved that game

[random venture]

my pc is decent

ive ran it before

[bright arrow]

But isnt it super old

[random venture]

then when i tried after like 5 months or whatever

[sharp sierra]

theres updates often

[random venture]

the game freezes on main menu

and goes to

[sharp sierra]

and tons of mods

[random venture]

hoi4 is not responding

theen i wait forever and nothing happens so i close it

[bright arrow]

I remember playing it like 7 years ago

[somber berry]

tf is this mod even about😭

[random venture]

i think i can never play tno again

but

it works fine on my steam deck

[trail gate]

any mods that help improve the late game fps issues?

i legit cant play past 1942

[heavy vigil]

Delete nations early

[bright arrow]

Div caps or delete SA

[heavy vigil]

No

Div cap isnt the issue

Main issue is the many seperate equipment types from different nations

Divs are secondary

[trail gate]

i see

[random venture]

im actually tweaking since idk if its the mods fault or my computers fault that its broken

[trail gate]

is there anything to simplify this then?

[heavy vigil]

Goes for ai nations too

[bright arrow]

I remember using the expanded Generic focus trees and by 1945 countries like Guatemala had like 70 divs

[heavy vigil]

Get a mod to remove all "useless" minor nations

[heavy vigil]

And the world eco will be a bit worse but whatever

[trail gate]

ok

thx

[random venture]

also idk but i also cant play kaiserreich

its also broken like that

[bright arrow]

Probably the computer/files fault then

[random venture]

idk how to fix it

like

idk

ive tried it on my hdd and ssd

[bright arrow]

You play hoi4 through steam?

[random venture]

ofc

i get to this screen then nothing work and then the HOI4 is not responding comes up

[bright arrow]

Weird, and you have tried reporting this to the githubs of the mods? With the logs?

[random venture]

no

i tried joining the discord

but i think im banned for some reason

idk i dont even remember joining it

[bright arrow]

From both?

[random venture]

Both?

Wdym

Im banned from the TNO discord

[bright arrow]

Kaiserreich also has a bug reporting GitHub and discord

[random venture]

Ye i just tried loading into game again when i get to the main menu it flashes white and then i get the blue spinning wheel

And when i click then white screen

[random venture]

I aint doing alldat for them to reply in 5 months or not at all with sorry idk

[bright arrow]

The squirrel that doesn't climb up doesn't get the nut

[random venture]

k

[icy crescent]

Chat.
Please name a nation bigger than two states.
Non-major.

[random venture]

Finland?

[icy crescent]

Dunno, why it is a question, but good choice.

[random venture]

why u askin anyways

[icy crescent]

Time to try Greater Kingdom of Finland.

[bright arrow]

Burma

[icy crescent]

I needed an idea to play.

[bright arrow]

Used to be 1 state but the devs decided to give them 8 more

[icy crescent]

Yeah, Burma became massive.

[dusky burrow]

Ottomans building two entire dreadnoughts is funny to me

[patent thistle]

the most modern currently in that world*

[patent thistle]

also it turned out to be 3 cause i wanted a 3rd

[dusky burrow]

Fair, you can always have more dreadnoughts

[patent thistle]

not like i am gonna annex it anyways again after the balkan wars:

[dusky burrow]

Did you win or lose?

[flat barn]

is my soviet build meta?

[patent thistle]

didnt happen yet

first i will give italy a friendly reminder that they suck

[bright arrow]

Democratic Germany is the biggest pain ever

[flat barn]

They were forced

they have 5 divs lol

[bright arrow]

Oh thats a dead Germany then

I thought Germany went the democratic path where they invite the entire planet to their faction

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[flat barn]

Lmao

Germany just naval invaded with paratroopers

[bright arrow]

That game is 100% comebackable

Only if they cross Kazan are you lost

Keep spamming infantry and defend only

[fierce mist]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-gif-23861497

[toxic lotus]

where do i have to attack in order for the carlists to spawn

as france

[flat barn]

yeah im making a comback atm

[past wolf]

Guys what is better path?? fascist Czechoslovakia german submission, communist japan, literally any USA other than fascists or loyal reichcommisariat nordland (Sweden Germany puppet)

[rare ingot]

why when I defend it goes from 60 green to absolutle teleport losing the region

[past wolf]

Organisation

[buoyant rivet]

why does recruiting troops take SO LONG

this seems ridiculous

[flat barn]

cuz u gotta train them

you can force deploy when they are 20 % done

even

[past wolf]

I think soviets can do it at like 5 or smthn

If you do right focuses

[buoyant rivet]

but it takes like multiple months for a single division

how do I build an army

[bright arrow]

You build them multiple months in advance

[buoyant rivet]

brutal 😭

[bright arrow]

Btw you can make multiple at the same time

You can make 300 divisions

And they'll all spawn at the same time

[craggy trail]

Large Portraits for Trait Tree Window. It makes the portrait bigger in the trait tree for Generals/Field Marshals and Admirals

[serene token]

Anarchist Spain finally launched their civil war against Spain.

[slender heath]

https://tenor.com/view/turkish-lira-gif-3183562397329309122

[buoyant rivet]

Oh

so its not just one at a time

[bright arrow]

No

As long as you have people and equipment available

[buoyant rivet]

it seems I can do 9 at a time

[bright arrow]

You can do way more than 9

[buoyant rivet]

Im limited on manpower

[bright arrow]

Unless you are making marines, paratroopers or mountaineers

[buoyant rivet]

im volunteer only

[bright arrow]

Those ones are capped depending on your country

[bright arrow]

Dont worry, 9 now, but when you go to war and have like 1 M manpower you'll be pumping out many

[buoyant rivet]

this is my unit

so I just need to work out how strong their unit is

[bright arrow]

The good ending

[flat barn]

Just forced the allies to sign a treaty in my favour, I have now managed to assert soviet influence over europe

Communism has been spread where it should have

[bright arrow]

Can you show the template? The windows that shows how many infantry they have

[serene token]

Are Cruiser subs good?

[bright arrow]

Ive tried them, and they're pretty cool, resilient and strong

[tiny iris]

Guys, idk if this is my OCD but I have barely played HOI4 this month and I am terrified of losing my skills.

[bright arrow]

Didn't regret making them

[bright arrow]

Skills?

The troops do the killing for you, dont worry

[buoyant rivet]

I know it is not effcient

but it is cool to me

and 228 soft attack seems good

[bright arrow]

Should do the trick

[buoyant rivet]

pretty good so far

[bright arrow]

Hm

What

Why do you only have 9 Divisions?

More importantly, why do you have almost 800 factories

[buoyant rivet]

Its 1948

This is my first war

[zenith charm]

what

[buoyant rivet]

the war the game plans for around 1936-38

[lapis snow]

yeah nah you still used cheats

[buoyant rivet]

yeah I used a mod that removes the cap

[hollow copper]

Only 800 factories as Peru?

[zenith charm]

what cap

[buoyant rivet]

No doubt, I am playing for fun

[hollow copper]

Lowballing it, aren't you?

How are you supposed to win against the indomitable Ecuadorian spirit with numbers like that

[lapis snow]

so the date has nothing to do with it. In fact it just raises further questions

[buoyant rivet]

yeah I do not pretend to be a hardcore hoi4 player going for best possible game, just playing purely for fun

[zenith charm]

800 factories tho 🙏

[bright arrow]

1948?

Why have you been doing for the last 12 years

[zenith charm]

sleeper peru build

[buoyant rivet]

building factories xd

[tiny iris]

Are field hospitals really that bad?

Veterans give nice buffs

[buoyant rivet]

they dont seem to be helping me

[bright arrow]

I wonder why

[lapis snow]

they're great wdym

people who say hospitals are bad, are bad

[tiny iris]

Bitt3rsteel dislikes them

[lapis snow]

oh boo hoo

[tiny iris]

He is the one I take 99% of my advice from.

[lapis snow]

sad

[bright arrow]

Eh, hospitals are cool, but usually the cost for equipment isn't worth it

[pure cape]

is this enough planes for Netherlands

[tiny iris]

The last 1% is Casey. I don't listen to anyones elses advice.

[foggy tendon]

I just caused a civil war what do I do now?

I'm panicking

[bright arrow]

Only if you are super manpower deprived

[bright arrow]

Blame a minority

[lapis snow]

you use them to preserve veterancy, especially on lower HP units like tanks

[foggy tendon]

I wanna get rid of it

But not by violence

[lapis snow]

the manpower is neither here nor there

[pure cape]

fund both sides and see the world burn

[bright arrow]

Thats an actual strat

Cause civil wars so you have more people wanting to buy equipment from the global market

Actual US strat

[fierce mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mourinho-jose-mourinho-shut-shut-up-shut-your-mouth-gif-8185852921913825286

[fallow cove]

wth is italy

why is it purple

[pure cape]

my dominon

or puppet

[fallow cove]

Oh

[pure cape]

idk anymore

[fallow cove]

Your game is kinda goofy

[bright arrow]

Btw Communist Alpine Supremacy is still called the same and has the same flag

Sad

At least the Byzantines get name and flag changes

[pure cape]

why

[fallow cove]

You've got france belgium luxembourg, puppeted italia, but didnt go to war with poland

[buoyant rivet]

I won

[pure cape]

Its my frien

he's with me in axis

at least I have Scandinavia

and he has Finland, baltics Ukraine and belarus

[fallow cove]

Multiplayers games are so random

[bright arrow]

Do multiplayer as the Baltic states

Very fun

[pure cape]

real

[fallow cove]

I prefer doing multiplayers game where we each play as a different china

[pure cape]

I was losing against 4 french Divisions with my 30 german 😭 damn you maginot

[fallow cove]

It's very fun too

[flat barn]

great campaign

[bright arrow]

Oh, i thought u were the USSR

[buoyant radish]

what

[dusky burrow]

I have questions

[dusky burrow]

Nice

(Yeah Italy sucked even back in the Italo-Turkish war, if Italy does win you will see them evacuate Libya)

[buoyant radish]

they still own everything, but they're being pushed back somehow

they arent even in the war

[lapis snow]

check for mil access

it creates weird edge cases like this

[dusky burrow]

Precisely, hospitals are good for offensive units where veterancy matters the most

Secondary usage being a high ic minor with low population

[buoyant radish]

just saw that, how do i remove it

ok nvm, i just called them into the war

[lapis snow]

there you go then

lol

[somber agate]

I looked away for a few minutes bro

[buoyant radish]

i hate having to invade africa

so little supply

[patent thistle]

f you italy

[lapis snow]

why do you have to invade africa?

[buoyant radish]

even with logistics company the supply is so low

[dusky burrow]

Wait did you win or lose

[buoyant radish]

cuz ltaly sucks

[lapis snow]

no I mean why, for what purpose

[buoyant rivet]

is there any way to view the war like score board? of a war im not in

[lapis snow]

there is almost never a reason to be in africa besides closing the med

[bright arrow]

Italy will always fumble their entire fleet instantly

[lapis snow]

world tension menu, then current wars

[buoyant radish]

if i don't do africa, ltaly will be pushed back

[buoyant rivet]

yeah I tried t hat

it says click to view overview but clicking doesnt do anything

[buoyant radish]

im almost at south africa, the country

[lapis snow]

so? As long as Gibraltar and the Suez are closed to the allies Africa doesn't matter at all

[tiny iris]

Idk man, it can gives France alot of Industry.

[craggy trail]

The war overview can break for unknown reasons sometimes

[lapis snow]

sure

[craggy trail]

You may have to reload your current game

[bright arrow]

Oh yeah that happens a lot

[buoyant rivet]

ok

[flat barn]

hi

[bright arrow]

Also sometimes the air regions

[patent thistle]

win i just said f you italy for trying to demand it (couldnt get a screenshot of the turkish victory screen cause i clicked it away too fast)

[dusky burrow]

Oh

I see

I also thought it could mean "f you italy for taking this territory, i really hate you now"

In any case, good job

[patent thistle]

you can even see it in the screenshot i still own it

[buoyant radish]

anyway, i made the maginot of naval forts

[patent thistle]

now time to bully the balkan

[buoyant radish]

good luck trying to D-Day now UK

[patent thistle]

knowing albania isnt gonna revolt

[dusky burrow]

What level?

Tbh yeah naval forts are more useful than land forts because you can't attack them from multiple sides most of the time

[buoyant radish]

level 10 forts

[dusky burrow]

Oh my

Yeah that's probably useful

[warped flint]

WHAT?

WHY

WHATS THE POINT

I AM SO CONFUSED

[patent thistle]

my 3 battleships will soon be done

[warped flint]

THIS IS ON HISTORICAL

[patent thistle]

the AI being the AI

[dusky burrow]

Greece is DONE

[patent thistle]

understatement

[dense axle]

the US dont know it yet but they're already dead

german sub>whole american fleet no cap

actually german fishing boat>american fleet

[patent thistle]

lets be honest i am most likely just gonna murder the greeks land wise and ignore there fleet, only the seize it

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[dense axle]

what nation are you

[dusky burrow]

Ottomans

In WWI

[patent thistle]

ottomans

[dense axle]

greece is horrendous to invade unless you encircle their army at the very beginning

[dusky burrow]

IRL the Greek fleet thrashed their Ottoman enemies, and this allowed them to take the Aegean islands and contemplate a Gallipoli invasion later on

[dense axle]

especially as ottomans

[flat barn]

hi

imo gwr sucks

the focus trees are awful

[dense axle]

otherwise you will have 20 divisions stacked on a single province in attica

[flat barn]

most focuses feel useless most of the time

[bright arrow]

gwr?

[flat barn]

great war redux

[dense axle]

great war redux

[patent thistle]

dont think they will be able to this time

[bright arrow]

Ah

[dusky burrow]

Oh you got Resadiye

Cool

[flat barn]

destroyer spam?

[dense axle]

its the best ww1 mod, but yes. the focus trees are indeed garbage most of the times

the only good ones are probably just italy, ottomans and germany

[flat barn]

aswell as their shitty deveoper team

[dense axle]

everyone else is outdated or doesnt even have one

[icy crescent]

AI is funny.

[patent thistle]

formerly the rio de janeiro

[dense axle]

spain has no tree

romania used to not have a tree

balkan trees are boring

there are no interesting functionalities for any nation

[glacial oasis]

they gotta make a tfr american monarchist path frfr

[dusky burrow]

Wait a minute

I got bamboozled, it's too early for the irl Resadiyes to arrive

[dense axle]

like balance of power or anything

[dusky burrow]

Oh wait you mentioned Italy

[dense axle]

yeah tbf the great war redux has a trash political path, only fun thing is war

[patent thistle]

who need destroyer spam if we delete destroyers with light attack

[flat barn]

oh cruisers

battleship

ohh

how did you get so many

wtf

[patent thistle]

battlecruisers

[flat barn]

the ic cost

ho

how

[dusky burrow]

30 knot battlecruiser in 1912 is scary

[flat barn]

i can only get 30 5000 light cruiser ic as italy by 39 in vanilla

[patent thistle]

battlecruisers usally cost like 10k ic

[dusky burrow]

That's still 30 5000 ic light cruisers

That's war-winning

[flat barn]

what do u have 66 of

[patent thistle]

66 standard destroyers

[flat barn]

66 8000 ic battle ships

oh

yeah i said destroyer spam

[gilded vessel]

very democratic indeed

[dusky burrow]

They only have 2 heavy gun modules, if they had 3 then it would cost something like 11k

[flat barn]

you said smth that made me think they were battleships

[dusky burrow]

Which would be my typical ship

Except then I'd add super-heavy armor

[patent thistle]

some outdated shit destroyers and some good ones

[dusky burrow]

Bringing the total to 13k

[icy crescent]

Yugoslavia can conquer its cores of Italy.
And can core Hungary and Bulgaria (+ whatever these nation managed to core).
And lacks some direct wargoals.

Greece only "good" focusses are Megali and Byzantium.
Red Greece could be funny in a multiplayer.

And Bulgaria got too much micro with their factions.

Turkey waits three years to do sth meaningful.

[patent thistle]

about 20-30 of these rn

[bright arrow]

Turkish Ottoman path is a sad failure from the devs

So much potential

[near schooner]

now we got samsung destroyers

[patent thistle]

meh, there are worse paths

[bright arrow]

Red greece is fun, cuz you can get a ton of manpower

As do most Commie nations

Thats why commie paths are my favourite

[dusky burrow]

Why go for Ottomans when I can unite Turan

Soviet Union isn't that hard to beat anyways

[patent thistle]

question, why play basegame turkey in the first place?

if you want to do turkey do it in road to 56

i am pretty sure they do have a decent path there

[flat barn]

Navy would be more fun if the ic cost was lowered

[dusky burrow]

Heard that Road to 56 just sucks to play

[flat barn]

Anyone else agree

[icy crescent]

• Red Greece looks spooky because Red.

[dusky burrow]

Or you can put more dockyards into ships

[split bane]

Don't let a certain mod hear you say that

[flat barn]

5 dockyard limit for battleships and carriers

[patent thistle]

the one thing that the great war redux devs did good is do exactly that

but that is like i said the only good thing they did

[bright arrow]

Navy would be fun if they punished doom stacks

[sudden grotto]

Nooe

Nope

[patent thistle]

they kinda did with carriers

[bright arrow]

Navy is boring cuz its basically a whoever had the most ships in a pile

[sudden grotto]

There would be no sense then

[dusky burrow]

I know, RT56 mod developers are here

[dry kayak]

kill the screens with lights and open up all the torpedo and naval bombers to finish the job

[patent thistle]

not always, quality over quantity

[bright arrow]

I want to be able to manage taskforces

[patent thistle]

bro its ww1 how tf am i supposed to get naval bombers man-

[bright arrow]

Not put 5 carriers, 20 battleships and 100 escorts and just set it to "strike force"

[patent thistle]

4 or you get a stacking panalty

[bright arrow]

And win every battle

Penalty arent even that bad

[dry kayak]

oh, i thought you were on standard game lol

[sudden grotto]

Thats how you win tho.

[bright arrow]

Yeah but thats boring as heck

Literally 0 skill

[sudden grotto]

Create a mod then

[bright arrow]

Strike force is pretty dumb

[sudden grotto]

And make the new navy mechanic

[bright arrow]

And so is escort

Ships in escort basically teleport around

[dry kayak]

yep, spam to kill the first screen for let the torpedos erase the battleships

[patent thistle]

Doom music starts

[flat barn]

Am i cool

[near schooner]

i love this meme

[bright arrow]

Also navy in hoi4 now is "spam light cruisers and gg"

That or spam subs

[sudden grotto]

Tahts because of stats

[dry kayak]

daaaam

[sudden grotto]

Do you expect a realistic gameplay or what? Its a game, there Will Always be some strat

[bright arrow]

There should be mechanics that prevent smaller fleets from being engaged by huge fleets

[sudden grotto]

If you go irl mechanics go do It irl lol

[dry kayak]

what expanson has the ww1 scenario?

[bright arrow]

That would force players to split their forces in taskforces

[icy crescent]

I mean, accurate and this is a good tree.

[sudden grotto]

Illogical.

Why wouldnt they?

[dusky burrow]

True

[patent thistle]

just to spit the great war redux devs in the face with there realism stance

[sudden grotto]

Thats Just spitting ideas without thinking of its own context tbh

[bright arrow]

Cuz huge fleets get detected by a million miles away, and usually are super slow to keep up with the Battleships

[dusky burrow]

Perhaps faster fleets can run away before the slow main fleet catches them

[sudden grotto]

Its liek saying the hood tsskforce couldnt kill the Bismarck

Non sense

[icy crescent]

Big letters Brazil.

[flat barn]

I want to do navy give me a country to do navy as

[bright arrow]

Japan

[flat barn]

No

[split bane]

Tannu Tuva

[flat barn]

I dont like to play japan anymore

[bright arrow]

Go commie England

[dry kayak]

they missed some years, the first carrier were made in 1922 lol

[sudden grotto]

You are mixijg "Battle" and "immersion" of the mechanic pretty much

[dusky burrow]

Portugal might be nice

[bright arrow]

Its super fun

[patent thistle]

ye it infact could the hood captain was just an idiot mostly

[flat barn]

Good point who do i fight

[patent thistle]

sea plane tenders:

[dusky burrow]

Japan

[bright arrow]

Navy is something everyone agrees is boring in hoi4 and super unrealistic

[flat barn]

Paradox isnt skilled enough to make a good engine so lag will occur

[sudden grotto]

"killing a lonely bb and heavy cruiser? Nahhh, lets go home"

[dusky burrow]

Or really anyone

[flat barn]

But they never engage my fleets

Meh ok

[bright arrow]

Like how a fleet mored in San Francisco can travel all the way to japan so they can enter a combat

[flat barn]

Can we get a hoi4 demake for the gamecube please

[sudden grotto]

Dawg what you expect to have? 💔 play in every single navy battle like its a Cod campign?

[dry kayak]

the navy has to work in task forces: light spotters that dont engage at all, and strike+subs to support the main battlefleet

[bright arrow]

Also the oil drain on fleets is too much ngl

[sudden grotto]

THEY ARE SHIPS, OBV

[dry kayak]

the strike force tactic is useful to save oil and risk only some paper fast ship that spot for the big mama one

[patent thistle]

the bismarck captain after getting damaged in an engagement: "yeah lets broadcast over unencripted radio our exact route to france while we are getting hunted down. what could possibly go wrong?"

[sudden grotto]

Are you gonna compare the fuel consumption of a Mfing Peugeot to a Ferrari?

Are u mad?

[bright arrow]

Not what im saying, but the current amount of oil in a country gets evaporated in like a week by having 1 fleet out

[sudden grotto]

Turing: hold my enigma breaker

[bright arrow]

There should be bigger oil reserves

[sudden grotto]

💀 dude, ships consume oil, wow

[patent thistle]

didnt happen till late 1941 tho i am pretty sure

[sudden grotto]

Build trhn

MFING FUEL SILOS

[patent thistle]

so didnt help with the bismarck

[dry kayak]

that's why you should patrol with subs and fast light ships

[bright arrow]

So you can actually use strategy and savings in a war

[patent thistle]

waists a buildslot

[dry kayak]

i did the mistake to patrol with normal fleet and it's just dumb lol

[sudden grotto]

Someone should knock some sense into ya ngl

[bright arrow]

As of now unless you have constant supply of oil your fleet is insta cooled

[sudden grotto]

Just delete It after

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, those had to be dealt with, and the only ships that can deal with them are the Hood and the KGVs due to their speed

[bright arrow]

Silos should get a buff, and so should a nation starting reserves, thats all that im saying

[sudden grotto]

They have...

[dusky burrow]

Had Hood been uparmored, she would have been the most powerful battleship in the British fleet

[bright arrow]

But you read it as me saying that ships don't consume oil

[sudden grotto]

Did you ever look at the right side of industry?

Did you ever do the fuel tech?

Just to know

[sudden grotto]

Getting recked by a ww1 bb Is both an honor and humiliation

[dusky burrow]

True

[sudden grotto]

You said "ships consume too much oil" have you seen a ship irl?

[heavy vigil]

If it had more armor it wouldnt be as annoying to catch in hoi cuz speed

[past wolf]

Guys I have the hardest question ever. What is the worst possible focus tree. A) German submission, Czechoslovakia. B) communist Japan, C) communist Austria, D) Afghanistan in general, E) Communist Yugoslavia and D) Loyal reichprotectorate path as Sweden???

[heavy vigil]

None of these

Fascist ethiopia, democratic iceland are bad

Switzerland

Any path is bad

[dusky burrow]

Although in terms of naval technology how much more advanced was Bismarck compared to Hood? Not that much

Airplane and tank technology developed much more rapidly

[past wolf]

Ohh true

[heavy vigil]

Yugo path where you split up for fun is pretty bad too tbh

[lapis snow]

commie yugo is good and afghanistan is just a skill filter. Not bad trees

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[flat barn]

ok portugal navy game it is

[bright arrow]

I said in game

[dusky burrow]

Afghan civil wars be like:

[flat barn]

its time for some larpidylarpy

[past wolf]

Idk, they arent terrible, they are just very slow, or as commie yugo, you don’t do much

[heavy vigil]

Or portugal neutral fascist

Very poor path

[sudden grotto]

Didnt you want realism in It? Thats what Is It.

[flat barn]

im gonna do battleships

[heavy vigil]

Whats some other just incredibly boring paths

[past wolf]

Czecoslovakia is like top 1 most hated path

[heavy vigil]

No

[past wolf]

Even iceland probs gets more

[heavy vigil]

I like the czech fascist path

[lapis snow]

its a bit like playing commie france but weaker

[heavy vigil]

At least you get to be a tank minor

Which is kinda fun

[bright arrow]

Im out here talking about making navy more fun and engaging and you are like "No navy must remain the exact same because theres nothing wrong with it"

[heavy vigil]

And theres actual gameplay

[bright arrow]

You are incredibly rude to have a conversation against ngl

[past wolf]

Ehh, most HOI4 players, me included don’t know tanks that well ngl

[heavy vigil]

Navy must remain the exact same because theres nothing wrong with it

[past wolf]

Yes

I do not want to micro navy

[bright arrow]

Thats why the devs are literally changing carriers next dlc

[dusky burrow]

Brits kept death stacking the Germans in WWI, so yeah there should be instances where death stacks make sense in HOI4

[past wolf]

Maybe teaching AI navy is a good idea

But not this weird port stuff

And pacific thingys

And bases mabob

And range doodads

[icy crescent]

Chad non-BBA Ethiopia against Pact of Rome.

[sudden grotto]

You are putting Words in my mounth that i didnt Say, i said, your idea of navy Is Just not fict for the game, what are you gonna do with tsskforces and shit? There Is already the patrol and strike force mode for It, navy design to boost It, if you want more realism dont expect devs tò Just put your ideas on a silver plate

[past wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-underdog-always-has-a-shot-daniel-larusso-cobra-kai-the-underdog-can-constantly-try-the-underdog-doesn't-run-out-of-chances-gif-7349562898139597747

[sudden grotto]

After you said navy consumes too much oil It was too much to bear

[past wolf]

Most countries with a navy are oil poor, most countries without a navy are oil rich. Whyyyyyyy!!! I understand big ships drink lots of oil, but can’t HOI4 make them camels or smthn?

[bright arrow]

It does, oil disappears way too fast when you set navy out, example when i put my navy on naval invasion support why am loosing oil? Are my ships just burning oil while they wait for the invasion to happen?

[sudden grotto]

Just let them use branches lol

[past wolf]

They actually start operating when you do that

[bright arrow]

Why does strike force not cost oil while they are on dock but naval invasion support does

[past wolf]

And project supremacy

[bright arrow]

Even if both are just standing on dock waiting

[sudden grotto]

Ok.

Didnt build fuel silos or prepare oil reserves
No oil reserve or no available traders
No synthetic refineries build
Its a you prob if you dont prepare yourself

[past wolf]

Strike force they only come out when they see ships

[buoyant radish]

the second maginot line:

[raw widget]

just get oil rich 🤑

[sudden grotto]

Because they engage when they spot the enemy

Like

[past wolf]

Oh helll nawhhhhhhhhh

[sudden grotto]

Dawg its a strike force not patorl...

[bright arrow]

Naval invasion support literally does nothing but wait for a naval invasion to launch

[sudden grotto]

I think it says what the mode does when you Press it

[bright arrow]

The ships aren't moving until you launch

But they consume oil even while they are in port

[past wolf]

No, it does “shore bombardment”, units in coastal tiles where the ships are projecting gain bonuses

[sudden grotto]

Dude...you look like you never used it.

Have you ever used navy thats the real question

[raw widget]

not working fr

they gonna go through france to get ya

[past wolf]

Yup, they gonna go through Vichy

[bright arrow]

I've played before, if i put my fleet on naval invasion support the fleets goes to the port waiting for the army to finish their invasion timer, and while that is going on they are actively burning fuel

[past wolf]

Around Benelux?? More like around Vichy France

[buoyant radish]

they aren't even in the axis yet

[past wolf]

USA will justify

They always do

Why USA? Don’t ask

[sudden grotto]

I am currently doing it

I dont see any fuel consumaption

[past wolf]

Maybe it is planes?

[sudden grotto]

You are Just telling some bs because i am in game, got my fleet on It and It isnt consuming shit

[patent thistle]

great ottoman navy

[buoyant radish]

ok then

[sudden grotto]

Then he Just cant read ig.

[past wolf]

Wait try being at war, maybe that is what is needed to do fuel consumption

[sudden grotto]

I am at war.

[patent thistle]

give me an anwer, why?

[past wolf]

Put it at tiles where infantry is fighting???

[dusky burrow]

Do you really need all that forts, how is your factory count looking

[past wolf]

I swear i heard it does shore bombardment

[buoyant radish]

91 factories

civs

[bright arrow]

What are you defending against lol? Aren't they your puppet?

[sudden grotto]

The only fuel its consuming Is some ships getting itno the task force

[sudden grotto]

Because ethey get in the Sea duhhh

[bright arrow]

Oh wait thats Belgium?

[sudden grotto]

They go on the coast obv they consume fuel

[buoyant radish]

facist belgium

[past wolf]

Ok so i am not crazy, lets goo

[buoyant radish]

i also have cores on most french areas

[sudden grotto]

In the end its Just confusing air consumaption with navy One...

[patent thistle]

there will soon be btw carriers in this fleet

(yes in ww1-)

[past wolf]

Name one Antalya

My fav Turkish ship name

[sudden grotto]

SMS = funny shelling on crimea

[patent thistle]

i guess its better then the 2 shitty ones i got standard

[slim nexus]

These ships any good? (For late game against AI?)

[buoyant radish]

this is why i hate ltaly

[past wolf]

OMG, these are actually super strong, I am saving these for myself later

[patent thistle]

overly expensive

[buoyant radish]

not pushing, not helping, jsut there taking supply

[bright arrow]

Getting a 1944 Battleship out is crazy

[slim nexus]

Hey I managed

[past wolf]

It happens

[slim nexus]

Let me see if I can find my 1936 designs buried under piles of stuff

I'll be back

[patent thistle]

i once managed getting 2 modern carriers out (that special project one)

[past wolf]

Ice carriers?

[sudden grotto]

Gets One shotted by funny sub 1944 lol

[slim nexus]

Modern carriers

[bright arrow]

1944 subs are so Op

[slim nexus]

Are insane

[slim nexus]

Yeah

Anchoric tiles or snorkels tho?

[past wolf]

Me as a person who never touched a carrier in their entire 2k hours in HOI4

[patent thistle]

there is a reason they tend to be banned in MP:

[past wolf]

Anechoic tiles but I think you gotta research to make them better

[slim nexus]

Modern carriers are speeed

I think they start at 40kn base

[sudden grotto]

100 destroyers against 1 sub and yet cant spot It lol

[past wolf]

Wait what?

[slim nexus]

Let me see

45kn

Speed

[past wolf]

I pull up with cruiser sub in MP, I can Raid Malaysia from Germany

[patent thistle]

like i said you cant usally use them in MP games

[slim nexus]

With engine 3

[past wolf]

And they are cracked

[slim nexus]

Let me see the best engine I can get

[sudden grotto]

1944?

[past wolf]

Modern

[slim nexus]

Let me pull up a pic

[sudden grotto]

Irl german navy battles lop

[sudden grotto]

Mod?

[past wolf]

Nahh like that special research

[sudden grotto]

Ohhhhh

[past wolf]

Special projects

[sudden grotto]

Ye never saw It yet lop

[slim nexus]

check this

full insanity

[patent thistle]

sadly already used

[sudden grotto]

48 💀

[slim nexus]

with nuclear engine

15000 range is also crazy

[past wolf]

Name this, Pasha

[slim nexus]

and no fuel usage

[past wolf]

Another Turkish ship name I like

[past wolf]

WAIT WHATTTTT

THIS IS TOO OP

[patent thistle]

and ofcourse its a shitty torpedoboat using the name

[sudden grotto]

They are like irl ships lol

[flat barn]

portugal navy game

[quiet vessel]

gng if u just leave an encircled port under enemy control they just send tons of troops in and u can just kill them all is ts common knowledge?? am i stupid??

[flat barn]

im actually really excited tbh

[past wolf]

This is like a SSH battleship on alot of unmentionable substances

[sudden grotto]

Thry charge their nuclear core every 20 years i think

[mild flame]

i love hoi4.

[slim nexus]

ye

[past wolf]

Ye

[slim nexus]

same bud

[sudden grotto]

Why East india company Is a major 💔

Sad

[bright arrow]

Is that third empire Bulgaria?

[patent thistle]

i got you homie

[sudden grotto]

Perfection

[bright arrow]

Ottoman carriers

[slim nexus]

based

[patent thistle]

we litterally have modern (in a world war 1 sense) battlecruisers

[slim nexus]

let me search for my 1936 and 1940 designs UWU

(for ships)

[cursive socket]

which path is better?

[nocturne finch]

is this historically accurate?

[patent thistle]

spartacus, if you do the other path you basically become moscows b**ch

[cursive socket]

ok thanks

[crimson ether]

I'm sweden and kicked soviets ass with Hitler. Now the war is done and I left the axis. Now I want to switch my army up to maybe take on Germany - dont know if thats possible but I think of forming an army group out of good holding infantry, and then create an army group with medium tanks and motorized for pushing

Is that even possible? I have around 120+ milfactorys and 1M manpower

I do think I have enough divisions trained and just need to shuffle divisions around

[buoyant radish]

why did you balkanize russia?

[bright arrow]

Why is China blue

[near schooner]

WHY ALWAYS COMMUNIST SWEDEN WANT TO BE PART OF FASCIST/MONARCHIST GERMANY FACTION

[opal nymph]

He hates Stalin

[near schooner]

i do too

[opal nymph]

Dude unironically prefered Hitler to Stalin IRL if I remember correctly

[past wolf]

Yooooooo, lets gooo

[slim nexus]

yo bro you want my 1936 designs?

[past wolf]

I make ships after 1940, why make old stuff when you can start with new???

Unless its subs, but subs are easy to design

[slim nexus]

I'll send anyways

time to search for my 1940s designs so I can share them with u

:3

[rich nacelle]

Can I lowkey get away with just using submarine spam as the USA?

[crimson ether]

Dude was a national socialist

[past wolf]

Kinda yeah

[near schooner]

im killing that mf

[past wolf]

But you need actually good subs though

[near schooner]

thats why my guy olav is just better

[rich nacelle]

I will likely use 1940/1945 subs with max torpedoes and the best snorkel.

I don’t understand navy.

[past wolf]

Nothing counters that

Don’t worry

[rich nacelle]

I may or may not be a China main XD

[past wolf]

Nothing the AI will make can counter that

Or even players

[rich nacelle]

Is it optimal though? Should I have as many slots full of torpedoes as possible?

[past wolf]

Yes

[rich nacelle]

Aight

[past wolf]

And research their buffs

[rich nacelle]

Plan on it.

[past wolf]

Wait imagine nuclear torpedoes

That would be terrifying

[rich nacelle]

Does that type of sub spam work for the Soviets and Chinese, assuming you get enough dockyards?

Or is it just a universal card to screw over everyone?

[past wolf]

Works with anyone who has dockyards

I do as iceland

[rich nacelle]

Nice to know.

[past wolf]

Win against Swedish navy

[crimson ether]

should I populate tha baltics wits subs then?

[rich nacelle]

Fishing boat army

[slim nexus]

Y'all a lot of cringe ngl

[rich nacelle]

Who are you?

[slim nexus]

I am da man

I am the one the one the one the one

[past wolf]

A HOI4 enjoyer

[rich nacelle]

I think you are a lil bro you joined 2 weeks ago

[slim nexus]

And you've achieved official unc status

[past wolf]

I joined HOI4 discord like 2 years after I got HOI4

[slim nexus]

Cringy uncky littleman

[rich nacelle]

I joined it 6 months after getting this game

Got it for Christmas.

[slim nexus]

HA

HAAAAAAAAAAAA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[crimson ether]

I think I joined 10 years after getting the game

[rich nacelle]

Anyone else hyped about the Asia-Pacific DLC?

[crimson ether]

or maybe nine

[past wolf]

This man might need to check his mental state

[slim nexus]

I've been in this discord server for quite a lot of time

It's just that I delete my account and remake one

[past wolf]

My boy xibei san ma 😭. the end of skibbidi san ma, the end of an era

[slim nexus]

I don't like how this server requires a telephone number

[past wolf]

Same

[flat barn]

Me neither

[slim nexus]

This literally 1984

[flat barn]

I know

[slim nexus]

We should do something then

[past wolf]

Big brother is watching you fr

[rich nacelle]

Fr. O7 skibidi San ma

[slim nexus]

Let's pwn the mods in a Hoi4 MP seession

[flat barn]

Who tfis this 😭

[slim nexus]

That's you getting dunked on

[past wolf]

An admiral I think

How did he get into power?!?!

I know a general can

[rich nacelle]

Just Russia doing Russian things

[past wolf]

Bit an admiral!!!

??

[slim nexus]

Ay yo what the heck you playing Commie Brazil?

Weird shenanigans

[past wolf]

If it is south america

[rich nacelle]

Am I the only one who will never touch South America?

[past wolf]

It is indeed that

[past wolf]

I am tainted

[slim nexus]

HA

HAAAA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HAH

AGH

AAAGH

[rich nacelle]

It is like Africa but with too much jungle.

[bright arrow]

I touched it once, and never again even tho i have the dlc

[slim nexus]

Aaah

[rich nacelle]

It is all mountains and jungle.

[slim nexus]

Dude I'm a mastermind in South American fighting

[dusky burrow]

If you play your Norway right he gets very powerful

[bright arrow]

Yeah, terrain in SA is really annoying

[slim nexus]

I can roll over the entire continent by 1941

[rich nacelle]

Like sorry bro but I want to do something besides wait 2 hours for a battle to complete.

[dusky burrow]

General actually

[past wolf]

Lol

[rich nacelle]

I don’t have the dlc btw

[slim nexus]

The terrain debuffs get diminished by the adaptable trait

[past wolf]

Wait that guy is a general?

[rich nacelle]

Not going to buy

[slim nexus]

You need the jungle and mountaineer terrain then the adaptable trait

[buoyant lodge]

i'm gonna oppose hitler

is that a good idea

as the first national focus

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[rich nacelle]

Good luck

[dusky burrow]

IDK though why he became leader of the Soviet Union

[past wolf]

I thought he was that admiral who always gets purged

[buoyant lodge]

what happenss if i win

[past wolf]

The portraits are kinda similar for a few of them

[rich nacelle]

Puts you into a civil war where you are the Germany in the west @buoyant lodge

[past wolf]

You get rid of moustache man

[rich nacelle]

You can become democratic or monarchist. Communist too if you have GDR

[buoyant lodge]

is it beneficial

[rich nacelle]

Meh

[buoyant lodge]

my 3rd time ever playing

[slim nexus]

Monarchist is just a repeat of WW1

[past wolf]

It is fun?

[slim nexus]

Democratic Germany is just late game Germany

And commie Germany is cursed Germany

[rich nacelle]

But you can’t justify on anyone.

[past wolf]

Other than soviets

[slim nexus]

You'll get attacked anyway

[bright arrow]

He opposed Hitler everyone

He saved the world

[slim nexus]

Don't oppose Hitler

Play historical like a man

[rich nacelle]

And even then, communist path is the only one that doesn’t make you go to war with Soviets.

[past wolf]

Ehh, he just moved to argentina

[past wolf]

Eww, too afraid of civil wars?? Battles make men, not minmaxing

[slim nexus]

You can make the Berlin-Moscow pact as fascist Germany

[slim nexus]

1940s designs found

[slim nexus]

lmao dude I'm a Spanish civil war proffessional, I ain't no scared of any yee-yee ahh civil war

[rich nacelle]

Every time I do, the Soviets just instantly leave T_T. Also having the entire world vs you ain’t fun.

[slim nexus]

I don't like Germany anyway

[rich nacelle]

Anyone else play China?

[past wolf]

Wait actually good designs??!!??!! Not just full hard attack and light attack??!!

My navy knowledge is nothing but a grain of dust comparing to this

[rich nacelle]

Not West Taiwan

[slim nexus]

I've done a independent Manchukuo playthrough

[rich nacelle]

But actual China

[slim nexus]

You become at best a regional power

[past wolf]

East Taiwan

[bright arrow]

Wow you must be over 100 years old

[slim nexus]

when I feel too happy, yes

[past wolf]

Same

[slim nexus]

glad to help vro

I had like 100 factories max even with full China

[past wolf]

I do it whenever I feel I wanna destroy a japan

[near schooner]

rip mao

[rich nacelle]

Tbh it isn’t too bad if you have La Resistance

[slim nexus]

The best part of Germany is that they get national focuses to have all 3 Special forces doctrines

[rich nacelle]

Mao Littledong

[slim nexus]

Otherwise it's a very mid country ngl

France is better

[past wolf]

Never say that

The stability

[slim nexus]

I have som plane designs too UwU

[icy crescent]

The game never spiked above 50%. Sad.

[bright arrow]

Mao is actually immortal in that province

[slim nexus]

though plane designer easy anyway

[slim nexus]

YES BRO

Anyway my main country is Venezuela

[past wolf]

Mao de stronge

[rich nacelle]

Just let him take out Shanxi and part of Ma. Stretches forced too thin.

[slim nexus]

I'm specialized in South American warfare and fight against allies and taking down USA

[slim nexus]

you want them plane designs?

[past wolf]

He usually makes more!!!

[rich nacelle]

Then let him take more land.

[past wolf]

I know hoe to design planes don’t worry. I think I know, idk ask that 5 min video on meta hoi4 planes

[slim nexus]

Y'all wanna know the most broken focuses of the generic NFT?

The mil factories then the fascist path

[rich nacelle]

Everything east of him is worthless supplyless hell anyways.

[past wolf]

3 research slots

[slim nexus]

oh can you compare that to my designs and tell me what to improve then?

3 mil factories one year into the game make a lot of difference when you start from zero

[rich nacelle]

Isn’t it just max gun on fighter and then the 1 bomb for cas?

[past wolf]

There are the bottom slots

[slim nexus]

Nah, you need the mil factories to conquer and get to 50 factories in the first place

[past wolf]

The modules

[rich nacelle]

Don’t you just put the self-sealing fuel tanks and the radar stuffs?

Bc that is what I do

[past wolf]

Machine guns good too

[rich nacelle]

Max 4x heavy mg with the radar

[past wolf]

Air defense

Very stronk

[rich nacelle]

Wait that is actually good?

[dusky burrow]

Not just one bomb for CAS

[rich nacelle]

I never knew

I just added it bc

[dusky burrow]

I mean you can work with one bomb cas but obviously not ideal

[buoyant lodge]

shit i'm lowk losing against hitler

[rich nacelle]

Image stolen

[rich nacelle]

Skill issue

[past wolf]

Stay strong mate!

[rich nacelle]

And of if you don’t have the heavy bomb locks use the small ones instead.

[thick jetty]

two weeks passed

WHERE'S MY DEV LOG

[rich nacelle]

I ate it

It tasted like soy sauce

[past wolf]

Nice

[past wolf]

That agility. Is uhh. Smthn alright

Same with that air defense

[bright arrow]

Btw do you know how to make a frontline? First time i played i had no idea

[rich nacelle]

I just noticed it 💀

[buoyant lodge]

yes i've established a frontline

[slim nexus]

What's the term used in speedrunning where you manage to shorten the time required to do a run?

[rich nacelle]

A turd in the wind has a higher agility

[slim nexus]

It is shortened?

[buoyant lodge]

and a plan for conquering berlin

and initiated that plan

[bright arrow]

Dont forget you have airplanes

[buoyant lodge]

i'm using them

[rich nacelle]

Try to meet with the Czech border to cut off the souther army. Then destroy them.

[buoyant lodge]

but enemy has air supriority

[buoyant lodge]

smart idea

[rich nacelle]

They always will

[dusky burrow]

Keep in mind that is specifically for naval bombing

[rich nacelle]

Encircled divisions (those that can’t go to another tile when they are defeated) are DESTROYED

[rich nacelle]

Ahhh

[past wolf]

Ohh, that makes alot of sense. I was thinking CAS

[dusky burrow]

As in the stats

This is still a CAS

[rich nacelle]

Got an ideal CAS?

[past wolf]

Used as a CAS

[past wolf]

Make lots of bombs, AD, Engines, Plane go brrr

Trust

I mean kinda yuh, i guess, but like. A bit immoral to have a bunch of sweaty teens doing bad things to large imaginary populations

[slim nexus]

1936 plane designs

[past wolf]

More like block ism

[rich nacelle]

Smash

[slim nexus]

they are a bit dated

[past wolf]

Smash

[slim nexus]

I've done a Venezuela playthrough so many times that I've basically driven the playthrough to it's maximum efficiency

[slim nexus]

you wanna see 1940 too?

[past wolf]

Show me the good stuff mate

[slim nexus]

And now I can't try and unite Gran Colombia without UK intervening in Panama

[rich nacelle]

Mmhmmm

[slim nexus]

Oh so you want to see stuff

[buoyant lodge]

KNOCKING ON THE GATES OF BERLIN

[past wolf]

0…0

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitty-hump-fast-gif-26504795

[near schooner]

finally they got rid of that nazi

[past wolf]

Privyet!

[rich nacelle]

Balz

[slim nexus]

Kinda cringe ngl

[near schooner]

VENEZUELA MENTIONED🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🫓🫓🫓🫓

[rich nacelle]

Bro got a mole on his right cheek 😭

[past wolf]

It happens

[deft shadow]

Thanks pal really informative

[rich nacelle]

There is another explanation for why there is a brown spot on his cheek…

[past wolf]

Yes, send attache to china and spain, should give u war support

[flat barn]

😭 ghost division ahh tanks

[icy crescent]

Dam!

[slim nexus]

ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

[deft shadow]

I mean the one where u get japan to attack attu island by leaving the naval pact and claiming alaska core

[slim nexus]

IT'S ONLY 70 DAYS FOCUS?

-15.0% consumer goods factor is broken

[flat barn]

the first beauty is out

[past wolf]

??? Ohh nah idk. I think when SS pany is sunk, you can declare war early

[deft shadow]

Ahhh no worries man u cant declare the war for it u needthem to declare war to enforce the homeland defense act

Was like a good 3 or 4 years ago so prolly patched

[past wolf]

Ohh

Goodnight everyone!

Have a good one

[icy crescent]

I cannot declare on the Soviets yet.
Still need 3% more tension. D:

[rich nacelle]

L

[slim nexus]

What you actually need is

My mommy!

Hey yo

[dense axle]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-67-kid-gif-15167809337439398898

[weary estuary]

Bruh why does hungarys tree suck so bad

[slim nexus]

1940s planes ong

There's a name tag in CK3 server about your lifestyle focus and a name tag for your Interest Group in the Vicky 3 disc server

[weary estuary]

And why does Texas start off with like 600 oil💀

[slim nexus]

@past wolf

Can we get a nametag here too?

I don't know, like

Fascists, Neutrals, Democrats and Commies?

[slim nexus]

too politcal

[weary estuary]

[slim nexus]

You mean too fun

And fun ain't allowed sometimes

no

its political

🍉

politcal doesn't mean fun

Here take a watermelon

[slim nexus]

no thanks

I like watermelon so much man

good for you vro

[weary estuary]

I like real watermelon not the artificial one

[slim nexus]

what good for me or what else

You wanna fite?

[weary estuary]

Also holy mother of god does Singapore have all the tungsten

[slim nexus]

Imma 1v1 you as Venezuela you can pick the USSR if you want

I'll destroy you with 2 divisions

Hoi4 MP games is how I assert dominance and farm aura

[dusky burrow]

spain is doomed

[slim nexus]

You mean Portugal?