hoi4-general

[hollow path]

really cool

[ivory hull]

its not out yet

[mild spindle]

bru

[crimson ether]

anyone got a good motorized division temp for sweden/scandinavia?

[violet raptor]

Any suggestiosn for Nations to better understand the game that isn't one of the big 4?

[analog ivy]

why are there so many troops in czechoslovakia now they are all gone lmao this is worse than dunkirk

[ivory hull]

maybe hungary

[violet raptor]

Any special Mod?

[inland violet]

now let black immigrants in

[ivory hull]

nah

[crimson ether]

im on my third swedish ironman attempt of crushing soviet

[analog ivy]

welp

[rare ingot]

Wtf is thats ?

[inland violet]

alpineKrieg

[violet raptor]

Ok, I will try it.

[inland violet]

kurds are free

[rare ingot]

im 3000 hours and never saw turkey and romania teleport to reich

wtf is that

its somewhere in the trees ?

[inland violet]

bro that happened irl chill

[rare ingot]

no nobt chill

im going to get gang bang again

[inland violet]

it was only for 5 mins tho

[rare ingot]

seriously wtf is that

how romania and turkey teleport to mustache man

[inland violet]

dw get the kurds to help

[rare ingot]

I dont understand

WHERe IN THE TREE THIS IS

the AI hack ..

[inland violet]

the turkey thing is i dont know abt Romania

[rare ingot]

I swear I never saw that in 3000 hour gameplay

wtf is that\

[inland violet]

they dont do it

not even in alt hist

[rare ingot]

I knmow

its not in anytrees

wtf is that

so many hours just restarting to get perfect rng to get stupid achivement

[grim merlin]

why is there an independent ukraine split in 3

[rare ingot]

Man this game is so weird

its just 39

[grim merlin]

what achievement even? control all neighbors territory?

[rare ingot]

yeah yugo

im trying hard

[grim merlin]

good luck

[rare ingot]

lol...

just going to take my time pop jet fighter and tier 3 heavy tank in space marine

might work.. maybe

[analog ivy]

bro

welp didnt matter anyways

perefct

[dusky burrow]

Time to breach the Maginot

[analog ivy]

i own everything now ❤️

[rare ingot]

YUGO GOING BIG BOYS

[analog ivy]

for a sec i thought you were germany and you were losing to yugo lol

[rare ingot]

XD

the revenge

got to deal with france and the allies after tho ..

those achievement are so cancer lol

[analog ivy]

early blitzkrieg

cause im bored

[hybrid galleon]

Yippe new Sabaton song to listen to while playing hoi4

[analog ivy]

yay

finally a good barb

i guess 36 width inf is good after all

its all about making them equipment faster than you

[buoyant rivet]

I clearly do not understand divisions in this game lol

I thought 20 was optimal

[analog ivy]

18 is optimal for inf as a balance between defending and attack

16 width is perfect for holding inf or defending inf

36 width is perfect for attacking

36 width attacking infantry:

16 width defense:

the 16 width defending infantry are meant to be really really cheap and spammable they arent really meant to push

[buoyant rivet]

so this hypothetical space marine division (I found recomended on reddit) Would it be better to increase width to 18?

[analog ivy]

if the point of this is for attacking this isnt good also this div is too expensive to be good for holding

[buoyant rivet]

So i have been playing as portrugal

[analog ivy]

maintenance support company is useless since you should not be in low supply in the first place

[buoyant rivet]

so that I can spend as long as possible building my economy

now I want to become op and retake europe from the germans

who somehow won

[analog ivy]

as portugal i recommend spamming 16 widths and converting a few to 36 width for attacking

[buoyant rivet]

so no space marines ;C?

[analog ivy]

space marines arent really useful anymore

these days you can just push with inf and no air in singleplayer

[buoyant rivet]

that is deeply depressing

[analog ivy]

space marines are also widely banned in multiplayer so theres no point using them in multiplayer either which is what they are meant for

[buoyant rivet]

that was like 90% of the reason I redownloaded it this morning xD

[buoyant rivet]

fair point

[flat barn]

THIS IS GOOD ENDING 🙂

MUHARHARHAR

[analog ivy]

i recommend using the templates ive shown above they are quite good for you lol. for your holding inf they have to be cheap, easily spammable and can fit many into one tile. for attacking inf you have to fill up all of your support companies and put as many inf as you can until its 36 or 35.2 width. Don't put line artillery in your division only support artillery as it removes alot of org and adds an uneven combat width which messes things up

[buoyant rivet]

ok but what if I added like a field hospital? would it not be practically immortal

the reason I am being annoying about this is because it just seems really boring to do pure infantry

[analog ivy]

basically you should use field hospitals in every attacking div in general including tanks, use logistics company for when you will be fighting in low supply areas (barbarossa, china war) artillery for breakthrough and soft attack and anti air for when you dont have any air at all or they have way better air then you

[buoyant rivet]

I dont really need anti air if my tank has the anti air no?

[analog ivy]

dont put anti air on your holding inf, put anti air on your attacking divs

attacking divs are anything above 18 width basically

[buoyant rivet]

because I should have built AA

right?

So holding infs shouldnt need it

[analog ivy]

no its just it costs alot

[analog ivy]

theres no point in putting anti air on holding inf since they wont be attacking anyways and wont really be effected by air

unless the enemy is attacking them

attacking divs get heavy debuffs if the enemy has air support on their holding inf

[buoyant rivet]

oh shit the UK just sued for peace against germany

[analog ivy]

anti air kind of helps with the attacking debuff

[buoyant rivet]

right now before I even build my army I am just pushing to reach the civilian nuclear reactor

[analog ivy]

no collab government im cooked

[analog ivy]

i mean nukes are useless without air you know right

you planning on making a bunch of bombers, fighters and cas?

[random vortex]

welp

i killed a milion though!

[gilded vessel]

vive la french germany

[random vortex]

beautiful 😢

1939 aswell wowzers

[gilded vessel]

who needs the maginot when you have got the french spirits of 4% war support and 0% stability

[random vortex]

Oh lord i didnt even realise 😭

How in gods name

Im guessing polands next

[gilded vessel]

you are guessing wrong they are my ally

the british is the one im at war at

and mexico made us join allies early

so i hate them

[buoyant rivet]

I am not building nukes, I just want the civilian reactors for the industry

[analog ivy]

oh what do they do?

i didnt even know that

[buoyant rivet]

its not a small boost either

[analog ivy]

state transfer tool and -66 political power at the top 💔

[gilded vessel]

yeah

[gilded vessel]

dont forget 0% stability and 4% war support

the french people are loving the war

[analog ivy]

i mean concentrated industry does this basically

[buoyant rivet]

yes but I want both?

its not like they are mutually exclusive

[analog ivy]

yeah true

fascist USA is called america btw

very tuff

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[silk fern]

the shah is the rightful ruler of kashmir and leader of the central powers

[gilded vessel]

kashmir powers

[analog ivy]

im gaining equipment despite having all of my troops on full aggressive battleplan

[buoyant rivet]

Uhh how do I actually get the civilian nuclear reactor?

I dont see any special projects

[analog ivy]

uh oh britain declared

[analog ivy]

no clue i never really thought about it

this is what the ai should be doing

defending against d-day

probably the most lack luster d-day ever btw

pushing in winter cause im so tuff

[fierce mist]

Is 36 witdth inf optimal as germany really

isnt manpower an issue?

I usally do 18 with inf 120 inf divs in total than 6-8 tanks + 72 10 with on dday wall and proably about 200-300k from france belgium netherlands and poland usally since i suck

and my manpower is gone

[analog ivy]

im not spamming 36 width inf

i have like 24 of them

[analog ivy]

and 120 holding inf which are 16 width

[fierce mist]

And tips for nations to play? other than germany or maybe mods?

[brittle cypress]

Well if you’re doing an infantry battleplan, technically optimal would be mountaineers not infantry

[analog ivy]

sure, romania hungary lithuania poland france brazil communist china manchuria italy

[fierce mist]

What the hell

[snow rain]

where support AA ?
where support arty ?
why support engi (1/4th of the cost of the whole div)

[brittle cypress]

And using infantry you should not be 36w it should be 35.2 due to doctrine reduction

[analog ivy]

TOO EXPENSIVE

[fierce mist]

I never battleplan @brittle cypress Micro is the fun

[brittle cypress]

Well then you make tanks not big infantry

[snow rain]

it isn't though
engi cost more than the two other combined

[fierce mist]

Yeah i mentioned tanks didnt i marcus?

[remote quarry]

engineer is more expsnvie than these two combined

[analog ivy]

oh shit

[fierce mist]

.

[analog ivy]

yeah you're right

[brittle cypress]

You asked about 36w specifically above that

[fierce mist]

Yeah cause i tought he mant he had 36 with inf divs

[analog ivy]

i dont have support arty and aa on them because i've put them on my offensive infantry and light tanks

and i have green air already anyways

ive been building planes since early game

[snow rain]

it also allows you to pierce ai tanks

so you don't get crit and are able to deorg them

[analog ivy]

they have 50 divs left and they are all atritioning in winter

i'll live

[analog ivy]

i have 5 factories on AA so i should be able to afford it

[snow rain]

also, complaining about price but you have cav and motorised laying around

[analog ivy]

and 200 mils

[snow rain]

motorised inf is 3x the cost of an inf div and that's not counting resource cost

[snow rain]

that's not a lot

[analog ivy]

im trying here man

[snow rain]

you're doing well anyway, it's fine

[analog ivy]

yeah and its alt hist

they are close to capping

[snow rain]

no collab 💔

[analog ivy]

IK I FORGOT TO LOL

[analog ivy]

I did a very early 1940 barb and i had no time to put spies on them

mainly cause i forgot to make spies in the first place lmao

shit i havent thought about this

is this the best d-day defense in hoi4 history?

finally

[languid patrol]

whats a conditional surrender do

[heavy vigil]

Rare

[analog ivy]

why

[analog ivy]

its literally just surrendering as if you capped basically making a peace deal

[languid patrol]

oh

[analog ivy]

unconditional means white peace

[heavy vigil]

No

Less score

[analog ivy]

oh yeah and less score for them

[icy crescent]

You have to give up your non-cores often.
But it is rather rare case and sometimes really depends on what nation.

[sudden thistle]

its like 1 in a billion chance

[heavy vigil]

I got the ai to accept conditional surrender once in all my playtime

[icy crescent]

The chance is relatively high, when you are a minor against another one.

There are many white peace chances when playing Peru (Or South America in General).
But never worth it.

[heavy vigil]

No?

[icy crescent]

Yes.

[heavy vigil]

Thats scripted

[icy crescent]

Not, not the decision ones.

[heavy vigil]

Not from the political action button

[icy crescent]

Actual white peace.

[heavy vigil]

Conditional surrender you need to be losing while having more manpower deployed basically

[icy crescent]

I mean... at least more often than in Europe.

[heavy vigil]

Ive never had that happen in south america ever

[icy crescent]

Never?

[heavy vigil]

Never

[analog ivy]

me neither

[icy crescent]

Curious case. o.o'

[heavy vigil]

Ive had it happen once

As finland

Vs a norway in civil wsr

[heavy vigil]

War*

Somehow counted as losing

[icy crescent]

I have it more often in South America than in Europe tho.

[heavy vigil]

And they accepted and took nothing

[heavy vigil]

Idk what youre referring to but its really rare

[grim merlin]

never had it in all my playtime

[icy crescent]

Can't remember ever having White Peace in Europe.

[heavy vigil]

So i doubt it

Theres scripted war endings but not rlly anything else

If you mean scripted then the most common places are south america and afghanistan

Who can repeatedly use it to take pakistani cores

[icy crescent]

Well, it is rare because you're not allowed to be a major.
And most people kind of become a major fast (by playing one, becoming one or by creating a faction).

[random snow]

Well turns out some of the preset designs slap in regards of tanks

[heavy vigil]

On quami army

[heavy vigil]

Youre allowed to be a major

When asking for conditional surrender

Its the button where you lose

[icy crescent]

You are allowed to but the chance gets further down.

[heavy vigil]

No lol

[icy crescent]

When you are a major, you get a negative factor on conditional surrender.
When you hover over it.

[heavy vigil]

Oh moddie did you know you can cheese trade influence

And get all the tradd

[random snow]

Well the t44 design did pretty well against turkey

[icy crescent]

Never used spies for trade influence.
But could be worth it as East Indies or Sweden.

[heavy vigil]

NOT with spies

[icy crescent]

Not?

[heavy vigil]

Spam 2 widths on border

Every unit is 1 influence

Funny

Maybe more i forgot

[icy crescent]

I prefer to only play minors.
And most minors ain't rich on resources.

Or have many neighbours.

[heavy vigil]

I found out as china

[icy crescent]

RIP.
BUT GOOD TO KNOW.

[heavy vigil]

I wanted to steal russian steel

[icy crescent]

Sneaky.

[analog ivy]

honestly since i've done so much inf spamming i should of gone gbp or mass assault

MY TANKS ARE TANKING

MY INF IS INFING

that was fast

[dusky burrow]

Air supremacy be like

[analog ivy]

fr

TNO

(ignore big japan on the right USA is fascist)

[heavy vigil]

Coughing baby vs coughing baby

[analog ivy]

my coughing baby is better then your coughing baby type beat

[heavy vigil]

The humble nuclear bomb:

[analog ivy]

i mean in that image i was attacking through a river

but holy crap thats crazy

6 tanks attacking 1 4 width cav div btw 😭

poor poland

[remote quarry]

ur banned🤣

[flat barn]

hi

[dusky burrow]

Stop bullying Poland 😡

[lost quest]

ayo

[dusky burrow]

Something is really weird however

Second attempt came out to 2056 and 1256 for the torpedo hips, but in either case something is really off

[modest orchid]

Real Germany flag user

[paper echo]

oh wait i need to censor it i forgot 💀

[modest orchid]

MODSSSSSS

[paper echo]

even luxembourg survived longer

[remote quarry]

did someone say that torpedo can't hit screens again

[random vortex]

does any one know how to elect this guy in kaiserreich

[lethal ether]

click on the buttons that does the things

[random snow]

Stalinium production is at an all time high

[sudden grotto]

Thank you...

[paper echo]

the true german way

[near schooner]

i would say something, but i would break a rule

[near schooner]

how

[ornate geode]

CHAT I ASKED MY CRUSH OUT ON A DATE AND SHE SIAD YES 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[sharp sierra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3192104546&searchtext=portrait+replacement

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3566260928&searchtext=portrait+replacement

[glossy void]

Should I create Vichy france or just keep it to myself

[sharp sierra]

i get a 100% collab then create that instead of vickys ugl;y ass

[sudden thistle]

No

[sudden thistle]

No

[near schooner]

nein

[remote quarry]

always keep land to yourself

[near schooner]

不

[remote quarry]

don't release or use the reichkoms puppet

[near schooner]

why

they look good

[sharp sierra]

i think theyre stupid and too wolfenstein-y

or some dumb shit like that

[near schooner]

rp brother rp

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3564588994 best mod

[sharp sierra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3264197751

[stone belfry]

AI degeneracy

Abominable intelligence is repugnant

[sharp sierra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2988057343

[zinc rune]

very interesting name shape (ignore border gore)

[near schooner]

this hurts my eyes

[brittle cypress]

What is this ai slop

Remove posthaste

[wind swift]

Is it me or does she have a lazy eye 👁

I got my first 50+ div encirclement last night felt cool

[remote quarry]

looks terrible on the map

[dusky burrow]

Boooooooooo

[icy crescent]

Without By Blood Alone you can get democratic Italy with the political guy and an easy Referendum.
Is it more complicated with DLC?

[dusky burrow]

I think you may be able to go communist that way

Because Gramsci, but idk about Democratic

[dusky burrow]

BTW guys is it ever worth clicking these? Top one is 6% more breakthrough for 5% more ic, second one is 6% more breakthrough for 8% more ic

[dusky burrow]

Marx printer

[bright arrow]

this is the most peaceful hoi4 game ive had

its 1944

im playing as Union of Britain

decolonization does wonders for world peace

[serene token]

The Spanish Civil war just kicked off.

[north tendon]

anyone mp?

[bright arrow]

holy molly how did the FRench still had disjoint government lmao

The french are so cowardly lmao

[near schooner]

ah yes, my favorite paradox game, samurai shodown V special

[umbral agate]

i never actually how little help poland got untill i played as it like i held of germany for like 8 months and i was send like 300 guns and some support equipment

[paper echo]

rate the us

closer view

[cerulean orchid]

italian east africa

i rate it 9/11

[paper echo]

yeah i gave slices of the us to every country that was in the war

[cerulean orchid]

glad to know montenegro got something also

[paper echo]

albania also got a bit

so yeah thats how the world looks rn

i finally managed to succesfully sea lion after gotterdammerung came out

[near schooner]

mapmod?

[paper echo]

tno map mod

[near schooner]

compatible with ironman?

[paper echo]

i think

[dusky burrow]

I am Bulgarian now

[paper echo]

now you need to change your bio to "bulgarian patriot 🇧🇬 "

[paper echo]

and i have a mod where every puppet has overlord color

[dusky burrow]

Better than being a Nazi tbh

[paper echo]

duh

no shit lol

china declared on every warlord bruh

[near schooner]

ty bro

[paper echo]

np

since the finns want these states so much they can have them

[soft yacht]

just won the balkan war

im so tuff

[paper echo]

just split vichy france fairly

[bright arrow]

for the second time in 5 years the Germans meet destiny

[fair horizon]

this makes me irrationally angry

[fair horizon]

its not even the border gore either

its that nebraska and iowa are together

[paper echo]

i think i am good at fairly sharing nations

sweden is my next victim

[bright arrow]

two communist Germanies, one SSR one UoB

[dusky burrow]

What do you guys do with this

[paper echo]

done

average eu4 map

[dusky burrow]

Balkanizer

[paper echo]

ikr

[wraith mauve]

How do I make cas in by blood alone dlc

[dusky burrow]

There's a naval bomber CAS design and a land-only CAS design

[wraith mauve]

Land

[ionic crescent]

playing as germany. Where should I land in the UK?

ive been told Hull is a good place

use to land in Dover but now the British AI puts infinity divisions there

[wraith mauve]

I can’t help bro sorry

Because I play imperial germany

[ionic crescent]

oh....is it fun?

[dusky burrow]

Naval version here

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1119503627980120098/1408728632813289492/IMG_6069.gif

[misty fossil]

hey thats offensive

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[misty fossil]

dover

theres nothing 2000 cas and 12 36cw (8 marine + 8 mountaineer) divisions cant mow through

[bright arrow]

liberation day

[misty fossil]

you want a split mix of marine and mountaineers in your 36w

[dusky burrow]

Eh...

[misty fossil]

?

[dusky burrow]

2000 cas is indeed very powerful

But Dover can be stacked with like 20 units including tanks, I'd at least try to attack around it

[wraith mauve]

Can somone give me a cheap but effective cas design

[misty fossil]

i usually hit dover, portsmouth and norfolk

[dusky burrow]

Plus 12 36 widths means that you're combat width limited

[misty fossil]

i just reinforce meme the dover stack so

shrug

[dusky burrow]

That makes more sense

[misty fossil]

its not a problem

i mean

36w spec ops is insane strong

take marine doctrine and max it

put pioneers in

basically just flesh out the support comps

[dusky burrow]

What year

I did give you two

[misty fossil]

(he didnt read it)

[cerulean orchid]

just 2 bomb locks and dive breaks and whatever else you need

my favorite design currently on 1940s are 3 bomb locks engine 3 dive breaks drop tanks

[misty fossil]

mfs complaining about uk invasion when all they do is assign 10 defensive inf divs into a single naval invasion order onto dover and do absolutely nothing else

[ionic crescent]

thtas what i use to do

idk, i use to have no issue with this

or invading france

[dusky burrow]

1936 version, it's quite a bit worse than the 1939 version

[misty fossil]

me too

[ionic crescent]

since gotterdamerung ive been a lot more dififcult

[misty fossil]

i once did d day as the us and lost my entire army (72 divs)

[dusky burrow]

Yeah 💀

[dusky burrow]

Convoy raiding?

[misty fossil]

nah encircled

because i funneled everything in and no one had supply

[bright arrow]

"Houston YOU have a problem"

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-my-eyes-it-burns-gif-5848866

[umbral agate]

am i cooked?

[clear dagger]

just summon the winged hussars

[umbral agate]

ohhh

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/sabaton-history-wawa-cat-winged-hussars-gif-1548064404993932937

[umbral agate]

i didnt think of that

[umbral agate]

it worked

[clear dagger]

LOL

[umbral agate]

also

[umbral agate]

i was at war with germany

[near schooner]

what should i do

[umbral agate]

from like early 1938 to 1940

[warm forum]

Can anyone tell me something useful you can do with armored cars...?

[clear dagger]

swat

i just realized that's an actual answer lol

[warm forum]

lmao

because really, apart from recon or suppression garrison

i just can't find a good spot for them anywhere else

[clear dagger]

no they're pretty much useless

you research them when you researched everything else

[warm forum]

true, or they already are researched as certain nations

[serene token]

Are all DLC's compatible with each other?

[bright arrow]

nuking America twice cuz someone had to

[warm forum]

As far as i know, yes

I use all of them

[serene token]

Target California more.

[clear dagger]

yeah

why would they make dlcs not compatible with each other

[bright arrow]

They capped

[serene token]

Dunno, thought focus trees would conflict with each other.

[clear dagger]

thats not how it works

[bright arrow]

I mean, without historical ai the game gets really weird

They are compatible in terms that you can run them together

But get ready to experience the most crazy bugs

[bronze mango]

It would be weird if they didn't

[bright arrow]

Cuz focus trees are in fact not compatible

[warm forum]

Nah, they overwrite each other with the most modern one

Works perfectly well

[bronze mango]

They are made to be compatible

[bright arrow]

Just look at my game, im fighting the Alliance "Italian Federation" even tho italy was only a part of it for a couple seconds before they changed faction like really early in game

[serene token]

Tried Alt as the USA, France and the UK began going communist, and Germany went down the monarchist path.

So far, I haven't seen anything interesting in USSR.

When does the Russian civil war normally kick off?

[sharp sierra]

what year is it

@serene token

i think ive never seen it past 1938 or at least not usually

if ur game freezes for 3 seconds then its russia civil war

[vapid bough]

I found the only way to get the Balkans to work together

(ignore croatia)

[spring pulsar]

is this a decent division?

[clear dagger]

i have an idea on how to unite benelux as luxembourg without paratroopers by 1939

[bright arrow]

WE did it, we saved the world (i think communist yugoslavia might need a couple more years to think about it)

[dusky burrow]

I honestly doubt that even these can reinforce meme the enemy on a naval invasion

[dusky burrow]

Oh my

BTW the Germans should be in the Naval Treaty system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-German_Naval_Agreement

[runic crypt]

hi everyone!!!

hru all doing today?????

[dusky burrow]

Hello

[runic crypt]

hiii

[serene token]

Yep, Communist for sure.

[buoyant radish]

first time ive seen this happen

[vapid bough]

this feels like watching a train derailing in slow motion

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-train-train-wreck-gif-15622571

[dusky burrow]

RIP Japan

BTW I'm shocked, 82 torpedo destroyers were outtraded by 8 battleships - 47 losses versus 2

If I let the battleships retreat when they ran out of org, there would have been no casualties but a whole bunch of destroyer losses

[heavy vigil]

Whats that event do you know?

[dusky burrow]

IDK

Wait, it would have been under Australia at the time

[dusky burrow]

One of the volcanoes at Rabaul erupted on 6 June 1937

Interesting

[winged pulsar]

why do tank divisions sometimes jsut lose a chunk of their org?

like 5-15 org or something

per day

?

[dusky burrow]

Amazing

Wonder if Sejzowak knows about this

[dusky burrow]

Are you moving?

[cedar kite]

he knows

[winged pulsar]

no, in combat

pushing tiles

[dusky burrow]

Maybe they just faced a really good defending division

[winged pulsar]

no

starts green

fully green

and winning

then a day passes, it loses like half its org

they're modern tanks with mech so they're good divs

[remote quarry]

got cased

[dusky burrow]

If it's green you might win eventually, but that doesn't mean the defending enemy doesn't have 1000 attack per division

[heavy vigil]

Click. The. Bubble.

[dusky burrow]

^

[winged pulsar]

oh that makes sense

[dusky burrow]

That will provide more information

Also yeah CAS

[winged pulsar]

2k soft attack and enemies have 800 defense

1.5k hard

2k and 1.5k mine 800 def his

its AI anyways

[heavy vigil]

Look at their attacks, theyre negated by your breakthrough

[dusky burrow]

^

[winged pulsar]

1.3k base stat breakthrough

[heavy vigil]

Defense only makes it zso you cant crit

[winged pulsar]

its prob cas

[winged pulsar]

thank you

[heavy vigil]

Break makes it so they cant

[bright arrow]

my puppet usa just collapsed

but none of the factions are at war with eachother

also this looks way too similar to Kaiserreich

[near schooner]

why are they blue

they arent in the axis

just beautiful

[heavy vigil]

Is the event vanilla..? Im still a bit confused tbh

[dusky burrow]

Wait how did you do that, because it isn't working for me

[dusky burrow]

Oh I don't think it is vanilla, but I've never played Australia

[dusky burrow]

rubber ftw

[cedar kite]

could you join vc?

[cerulean orchid]

what the hell is this

[dusky burrow]

No not right now unfortunately

[near schooner]

how is a good naval bomber template

[frank acorn]

I looked away for 10 seconds and lost 34 infantry divisions

[cedar kite]

Italian east africa gets complaince buffs that eventually it starts making collab governments and kills itself since it has no cores\

[near schooner]

is this a good naval bomber template?

[worthy quarry]

First ever time playing with iron man mode on and the game decides to bug out and have the soviets declare war on me for no reason and france by themselves managed to shove straight through 50 divisions on my border like it was nothing

[glacial hearth]

How?

[dusky burrow]

Also this is because puppets can't make collaboration governments, so the AOI has to free itself. And since the AOI became free, it divides itself into collaboration governments

[remote quarry]

you can put another extra fuel tank if you do triple engine 2

[cedar kite]

cause italian civil war?

[dusky burrow]

Perhaps, or in this case the AOI got so much autonomy it freed itself

[weary moat]

is going via attu to invade japan the early usa v japan meta?

[vapid bough]

invest in Turkey while the Wehrmacht is at my door?
of course

[near schooner]

bruh

[remote quarry]

yes

you can easily capitulate them on panay incident

[cerulean orchid]

sounds like the best way but personally i would island hop from midway

theres probably next to no supply on attu

[weary moat]

nope there isnt as i have to build a port and rail line and upgrade the road

[cerulean orchid]

ya it doesnt sound worth it to me tbh

[remote quarry]

you don't need supply

[weary moat]

blitz all the way to tokyo then?

[cerulean orchid]

also invading japan from the north is annoying

bunch of supply deadzones and almost no major vps

[weary moat]

hard truth here lol im finding out the hard way then realtime

anyway thanks folks

[vapid bough]

the Wehrmacht is going broke trying to invade the Balkans

[heavy vigil]

No

They need to go up an autonomy level first

[cedar kite]

yeah missed the autonomy part

[heavy vigil]

They used to have higher autonomy tbf

And it was changed to prevent collab spawning, which is quite sad

[cedar kite]

dang egypt almost in GOE

i mean all you have to do is remove the # but then not iron man compatible

[near schooner]

why

[tepid kraken]

tried to make an accurate chinese warlord map + japan

[heavy vigil]

Thats not accurate tho...

[tepid kraken]

its hard to make a warlord map

[heavy vigil]

Something like this is pretty close

Actually nvm

Not even

Imaginary maps reddit 💔

Why do all maps suck

And also why cant i read

[tepid kraken]

russian empire at the top gave it away

[tepid kraken]

the warlord area was really chaotic so its hard to know who really owned what

not like the KMT took care in keeping good records

[heavy vigil]

This should be it**

Im quite dumb

[dusky burrow]

That's an alternate history map 💀

[dusky burrow]

Sichuan and its eternal civil wars

[heavy vigil]

Im STUPID

I think i clicked the wrong thing

And my brain just didnt work

So sleepy

[dusky burrow]

RIP

[tepid kraken]

if the next dlc doesnt look like this im boycotting

[heavy vigil]

It wont

But 8 years war of resistance mod does

Or BICE

[empty sable]

Yo hwo did that hoi mat hworked like how does the troopd work, like I have more soft attack and defense but like other troops lowkey resist

[vapid bough]

Germany is on All Adults Serve fighting Romania now rahh

[dusky burrow]

RIP

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/romania-gif-9303829863785054258

[dusky burrow]

https://tenor.com/bz6mn.gif

[vapid bough]

its bleak Germanybros

[hybrid galleon]

Heh heh balls

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-butt-head-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s1-e11-that-is-funny-gif-3930905124024700446

[charred lake]

https://tenor.com/view/tog-tog1-jumpscare-gif-24942218

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ww1-fiat-tank-renault-ft17-i-drive-ryan-gosling-gif-9120924170441533043

[uneven portal]

im scared

superheavy tanks are my worst fear

[charred lake]

https://tenor.com/view/paradox-eu4-hoi4-meme-paradox-games-gif-25954979

[charred lake]

Not unless your in one

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron4-gif-26987353

[charred lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-4-naval-gif-12542253955591881556

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-gamer-bateman-patrick-american-psycho-gif-24249308

[charred lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-my-love-gif-123524107402095823

[charred lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-allies-fat-guys-dancing-gif-23889973

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826464137114681404/1368320445782425730/attachment.gif

[glass crescent]

Bro 1941 and Germany just chilling rn (I'm Sweden,I'm staying out of it)

[hollow skiff]

Attack Denmark and form Scandinavia

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-super-mario-galaxy-movie-2025-2026-animated-film-gif-7788218138102996218

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

IS THIS REAL

[clear dagger]

yes it is

[gilded dagger]

WHATTTT

[clear dagger]

i thought it was fake at first too lol

[gilded dagger]

That nuts

Wow

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/nuts-batman-keaton-lets-get-nuts-joker-gif-13984848

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jacksepticeye-sean-mc-loughlin-balls-i-love-balls-youtube-gif-5280871

[clear dagger]

me to my friend at the circus:

[lone sail]

who will inherit russia

[heavy vigil]

Onega

[near schooner]

siberian black army

[lone sail]

how tf do i build factories in tno

[heavy vigil]

Dont

[lone sail]

wdym

[heavy vigil]

Just conquer

[gaunt cedar]

In the back of my mind

[heavy vigil]

Lmao

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ukraine-ua-slava-ukraine-stop-war-in-ukraine-ukraine-gif-gif-17989595646089269714

[gaunt cedar]

You died

[gaunt cedar]

and i didn’t even cry

[lone sail]

how do i conquer with no factories

im playing omsk

[heavy vigil]

army

[lone sail]

with what mils

[heavy vigil]

russian?

[lone sail]

yes

im omsk

[limpid mantle]

as a hoi4 player i literally do not understand why a lot of people dont know much about countries overall

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/colts-indianapolis-colts-dashawn-dashawndontplay-comebackcolts-gif-12298488741851068567

[charred lake]

Ikr, lmao, I know almost every single country in the world thanks to hoi4

And people always get shocked when I know where Sierra Leone is lmao

[frank briar]

hoi2 was my instruction in geography. i still call it checkoslovakia

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-denzel-my-man-denzel-washington-myyyy-man-gif-376647294737879812

[dusky burrow]

tiny turret

[frank briar]

hoi2 introduced me to all this wonder and weird nations id never heard of before. like slovakia, bulgaria and finland

(im australian)

[near schooner]

greater lithuania wont give me the control of the territories

[frank briar]

(I used to think mexicans spoke mexican until i was like 26)

[near schooner]

they arent great

the great german reich is

[dusky burrow]

They don't want to become Lesser Lithuania

Forgive them

[near schooner]

they will become lesser lithuania

[gilded dagger]

GUESS WHOS BACK TARIS BACK

[dusky burrow]

Bully

[near schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/guten-morgen-good-morning-morning-moin-moin-moin-gif-11055080674908179359

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/whose-line-is-it-whose-line-is-it-drew-carey-drew-carey-whose-line-is-it-what-did-i-do-drew-carey-what-did-i-do-gif-12563597887231496970

[gilded dagger]

Ve taking back Ze poland with Zis one

[near schooner]

they will become ermm REICHSKOMMISSARIAT OSTLAND

[heavy vigil]

Thats crazy

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o'hearn-real-brainfog-gif-7666610795160025826

[near schooner]

erm is there a reason why they can have 30 divs

[heavy vigil]

Yes

They have a trait

That gives +6 limit to generals +3 to field marshals

[frank briar]

well not really im australian; wtf do i care about mexico

[near schooner]

wut wym UFA why is that their captain

[heavy vigil]

+18 to garrison orders

[near schooner]

oh okay

[frank briar]

i just figured most nations had their own language. like how in australia we speak australian

[heavy vigil]

Thats fair its just being 21 myself it feels really odd? To just not want to explore that/look it up for such a long time

[glass crescent]

They became German protectorate

[hollow skiff]

Oef 😭

[glass crescent]

I ain't messing with Germany rn

[near schooner]

REALLY

i captured like 7 different soviet capitals

WHY THEY DONT SURRENDER

[glass crescent]

I was only able to mess with Finland and Norway because they are weak at the start

I'm doing my best to stay out of WW2

[hybrid solstice]

do you have la resistance

[near schooner]

yup

FINALLY

[glass crescent]

Because I don't have the manpower or equipment to fight it

[hybrid solstice]

next time form a few collab governments

[near schooner]

i forgot about that

[hybrid solstice]

yeah

[near schooner]

a lot of things to manage my brain just focuses in one thing

[gilded dagger]

ALR I'm going to play some Hoi4 I am playing as Germeny TOOK Out Poland and are coming for the rest of Eourpe

[charred lake]

Same bruh, I feel u

Except hoi4 was my instructor in geography

[frank briar]

where are you from? as an australian mexico had zero interest for me. it still has zero interest for me

at 21 man i had way more important stuff to explore and research than mexico

[heavy vigil]

Where im from doesnt matter because every part of the world interests me tbh :p

[frank briar]

well every part interests me to at least a certain extent

[heavy vigil]

Including australia ofc

[frank briar]

some areas far more than others

[frank briar]

get ready if you're ever gonna delve into aus. here's mark twain: “Australian History does not read like history, but like the most beautiful lies; and all of a fresh new sort. No mouldy old stale ones. It is full of surprises and adventures and incongruities and contradictions and incredibilities; but they are all true, they all happened.”

It's still a saga to this day to tell people even what aus did in ww1; nerds just think you're lying

[heavy vigil]

Eventually, every place on earth is somewhat like that though

Every perspective is biased and more often than not just plainly wrong

But an individual perspective/experiences are usually correct, if not memorized poorly

[frank briar]

nah not every perspective is biased

truth is real and it is the true historian's task to find it

[heavy vigil]

Someone can only see so much

[frank briar]

only filthy commies and french cultural marxists believe what you're saying

[heavy vigil]

So it is biased by like a limited view, imo

[frank briar]

and they take it to the extreme

in the end things happened, the truth happened

and you can find it, with intelligence, endurance and the strength of will

[near schooner]

ihate lithuania sm WHY they transformed my generalgouvernment into "lithuanian poland"

[frank briar]

well yeah this is why finding the individuals and contemporary sources is critical

[near schooner]

is there a way to make again the generalgouverment

what does this mean

[heavy vigil]

Mhm of course it is

But you cannot simply rely on any one side, which makes it tricky

[frank briar]

ya. u gotta use your nuance

but what rages me is that modern historian nerds who couldnt lift a sword will read herotodus and be like nah he's lying about the numbers it clearly couldnt have been that many men etc

it's like dude who am i gonna trust

the guy who was literally there or some pencil necked geek with a history degree in a university campus

[lethal ether]

howd this happen wha

[near schooner]

i dont know

[lethal ether]

hilarious

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/lithuania-lithuanian-fact-check-this-post-this-post-has-been-gif-7620392083187925546

[dusky burrow]

HOW

[near schooner]

lithuanian magic

sufferment

[limpid mantle]

it means Kielce is occupied by generalgouvernement possibly during a war and another country owns it originally

[rich nacelle]

Are there any mods that keep the game the exact same but take place in a different time of history that arent "too" difficult to learn?

[eternal palm]

I believe those are called "other paradox games"

[gilded dagger]

Ah I lost

Well

you win some you lose some

https://tenor.com/view/you-win-some-you-lose-some-movie-pops-john-witherspoon-gif-15727599

[livid fractal]

How to make tanks with insane stats? I focus fully on soft and cant get more than 450 base

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[livid fractal]

Oh

[gilded dagger]

Ironicly thats how I lost my game just now

tried to make a crazy BUFF tank.....I just became really Heavy

and it messed me up when I invaded Belgium

[livid fractal]

I saw dankus making tanks with thousands of soft and wanted to replicate

Guess that aint happening

Cant push africa

As italy

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-it-could-work-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-perhaps-we-could-do-that-gif-20020572

[livid fractal]

Is there a way to push africa as italy?

Beyond ethiopia

[gilded dagger]

Ofc there is

[livid fractal]

Uk and us stack 6 divs on every tile

Mountain tiles too

What to do

[gilded dagger]

..........oh thats bad

[livid fractal]

Around 42

7 divs on Gibraltar and now im stuck

Cant push anywhere

How to naval invade Gibraltar?

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

I'm Kidding

[livid fractal]

So there is a way?

To make marines better?

8-3 doesnt work

[gilded dagger]

i guess but man Para's are better

[livid fractal]

For gibby?

[gilded dagger]

I mean Paras are Just OP anywhere

[dusky burrow]

You can try something like this

[livid fractal]

Oh hybrid divs?

Never seen smt like that

[gilded dagger]

AH Yes thanks I couldn't figure out how to explain that

[dusky burrow]

If push comes to shove, outfit some amtrac tank divisions

[dusky burrow]

Basically the thing with HOI4 naval invasions is that if you have more than 50% bonus to amphibious invasion, it caps at 50%, so you can add a bunch of regular infantry or tanks to it

[livid fractal]

So there will be no tank penalty?

Oh ok

[dusky burrow]

Well hover over the amphibious icon to make sure

[atomic grove]

how the hell does peru get wargoals on ecuador and chile

they dont even have a real focus tree

[dusky burrow]

Decisions I think

[mellow jetty]

it wants to become the longest and thinnest nation there is

[heavy vigil]

Stolen smh

[heavy vigil]

On chile they get a claim which the ai can manually justify for/on

Technically

[south tendon]

can german/italians can land from here?

[heavy vigil]

They could but only with the romanian navy

And maybe subs

[cursive oxide]

prop

[south tendon]

can they land at rostov from like romania

[heavy vigil]

Yes

Ai doesnt typically do it

[south tendon]

ill put area defense there too i guess

[heavy vigil]

But they can

[south tendon]

should i build forts at kiev and vitebsk?

[heavy vigil]

Less mils?

[south tendon]

like later

before germans start invading

[heavy vigil]

You can choose to have less mils

Or you can choose to have more

A real enemy of any subtantial level in this version can break forts easily

[south tendon]

forts are kinda useless if they're strong anyways ig

[heavy vigil]

Ever broken the maginot?

[south tendon]

no i never really tried attacking it

[heavy vigil]

Its very possible lol

[south tendon]

waht if im losing air

[heavy vigil]

Thats normal for ussr

You dont make air

[south tendon]

yea i dont

[remote quarry]

help🥺

[heavy vigil]

Youre dying 👀

Im looking at those strenght bars

[clear dagger]

well obviouslt you didn't use the winged hussars

[elder glen]

if im more into wars what ideology do i chose

[maiden inlet]

am i safe

or am i gonna lowkey get destroyed.

[south tendon]

messed up with controlling paranoia 💀

i hope he wont start purging

[heavy vigil]

Idk

I cant see what your navy is made out of

[south tendon]

1350 battleships 😭

[maiden inlet]

guess who'll win

[south tendon]

i think sub

easily

[maiden inlet]

which sub

the one sub or the 1350 subs

[south tendon]

can i kill them?

[south tendon]

the one sub ofc

im not going air anyways

imma kill htem

[maiden inlet]

my game is killing itself

[near rampart]

Wow can't believe my KX run for Austria did so well.. the Russians who invaded get beaten to Caucasus and on the way to Ural

[maiden inlet]

nobody told me not to spawn in 1350 of every ship

[maiden inlet]

are the russians using ww1 tactics

[south tendon]

stalin looks angry

[maiden inlet]

why cant we decide to kill stalin ingame

or is that a thing

[south tendon]

we can go other focus tree and start civil war i think

[pearl flume]

Non historical Italy sucks more than historical Italy 💀

[gilded dagger]

Italy just sucks

[maiden inlet]

is karl donitz really karl donitz? or karl donuts?

[near rampart]

Idk.. in 1938 when they invaded me since I just occupied Ukraine (Nationalist Populist)(Ukraine ask for Galicia) the Russians outnumbered me like 3/1 both in air and ground.. so I hold on and even did naval invade in Sevastopol waiting for Germany to invade so Russia diverse it's forces to fight in north and I able to counterattack by keep supplying my federation states with guns so we push to Moscow and Caucasus

Plus Russia broke my cipher like 2 times

[maiden inlet]

oh

[near rampart]

I able to destroy Thier air force of 2000 airplane vs my 1000 air force and I only use 200-300 fighter I have 💀💀

Now they only have like 298-392

Plus I pushed in summer and probably gonna hold on winter

[maiden inlet]

the russian winter?

[near rampart]

Yeah so the attrition didn't do troubles

[maiden inlet]

well your troops are gonna freeze to death

[near rampart]

Hey I already have like 50% of Russia industry and resources the Germans rn get beaten by french

[south tendon]

do they actually freeze to death in hoi4?

[maiden inlet]

idk

but they do get debuffs in the winter

[near rampart]

More like attrition and debuff

[south tendon]

budyonny you useless shit

[maiden inlet]

GEORGY ZHUKOV???

[near rampart]

Ril lore of budyonny

Stalin should shot budyonny

[south tendon]

gonna choose 2nd option ofc

kill zhukov vs kill budyonny vs make both useless

easily kill budyonny

[near rampart]

NVM @maiden inlet i capitulate russia before winter

[maiden inlet]

Alright

zero freezing to death then

[south tendon]

no not defense expert 😭

[maiden inlet]

damn

[south tendon]

victory but at what costs

[maiden inlet]

atleast no german ships got sunken

[remote quarry]

the real question is

why is the german strength bar not dropping

[maiden inlet]

an entire army group of waffen ss divisions

im sending them to stalingrad

[pearl flume]

Non Historical is killing me

[maiden inlet]

charles de gaulle's average nightmare:

[gilded dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[heavy vigil]

Cuz its sheeps... They dont do production terribly.. Also max buff gives more manpower lol

[south tendon]

what should i use here?

[maiden inlet]

i always just randomly click on whoever

[south tendon]

defense guy is gone

[maiden inlet]

btw

[pearl flume]

Zhukov

[uneven portal]

ger

[heavy vigil]

Timoshenko

[south tendon]

ok

[heavy vigil]

Dont post that flag on this server :>

[maiden inlet]

damn it

cant even post the soviet flag nowadays

smh

[remote quarry]

this reminds me of a friend of mine

i would play poland 1v1 their germany

and it looks like this

even the stats are similar

[heavy vigil]

Yeah

You will eventually lose cuz ai is strong enough

Especially when/if hungary joins

[south tendon]

damn +5 japan is beating up china

[pearl flume]

💀

[maiden inlet]

brother against brother

[slender moon]

US is so fun when it’s communist 😭😭

[gaunt pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-girls-und-panzer-anchovy-gif-20156865

[remote quarry]

also river combat is so dumb

it's litearally giving germany more stats

[heavy vigil]

Coping...

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[ashen tree]

ALGUIEN SE HECHA UNA PARTIDA

?

[atomic grove]

why did it take so long for the germans to pass the dnieper river in ww2

[ashen tree]

SI ES ASI DM

[remote quarry]

italy joined

actually good

[remote quarry]

because it's a large river😭

but poland has small rivers

the glorious invasion of tripoli

with one tank

[atomic grove]

no way

no one told me kaiser germany could actually be overthrown and then be permanently fascist/communist

without using the strasser guy

[gilded dagger]

If I was getting 2 DLCs for Hoi4 what should I get

[atomic grove]

la resistance and man the guns

those are the 2 of the most major of the major dlcs

[gilded dagger]

thanking you

[daring tundra]

La resistance is useful mainly to cap the soviet Union without going into the Urals

[atomic grove]

no like operatives are insanely useful

[daring tundra]

No Step Back is better

[atomic grove]

hoi4 without operatives is like a car with no engine

man the guns is basically navy which is why its really important

[gilded dagger]

I'll take em

When I have enought money

GOD DAMN

[daring tundra]

I agree with Man the guns because I am a navy enjoyer

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is this good?

[atomic grove]

after getting the 2 if u can i recommend you get gotterdammerung, no step back, and by blood alone

[gilded dagger]

Thanking you again

[daring tundra]

What currency is that?

[gilded dagger]

Thai Baht, I live in Thailand

Even tho I am Canadian and British

[daring tundra]

That's a very nice breakthrough

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i want to know if its like worth producing cause im Israel

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WW2 just started and Germany moved so many troops to the french border Poland can just push back...

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i will fight the axis

[atomic grove]

no

its extremely expensive

just for those stats

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my situation rn

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https://tenor.com/view/stillgame-gif-14399807

[gilded dagger]

WOW

WOW

WOW

Alt History right there

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tf happening in india