hoi4-general

[brittle wave]

I only got a laptop two weeks ago

[zinc light]

There's a reason it's called "Sale"
And Not "regular price"

[zinc light]

Sounds Like a you problem

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-rex-mlp-ok-who-knows-gif-12173893

[zinc light]

OK I gotta try that mod

Looks pretty good

[ivory hull]

which one do i take?

[craggy trail]

If you like recommendations, my first starting pick would be Equestria, the namesake of the mod and includes your familiars from the home show

[sudden thistle]

Left

[ivory hull]

3x well

[zinc light]

I havent watched the show

[sudden thistle]

What I chose a random one 😭

[ivory hull]

"Canadian Führer"

[craggy trail]

It's alright. The events and the focuses if you would be interested to read will tell you a general background of the lore

[zinc light]

You GOTTA Take that path now

[hybrid solstice]

hey guysss, quick question - i really dont know if i should go for speed in a hbs or firepower? i mean the selection in the special projects

[craggy trail]

Along with the Guide to the Places of the World

[ivory hull]

right path lwk has more street credibility

[torpid karma]

what country is this?

[ivory hull]

quebec

[zinc light]

We dont talk about what Happens in Stalliongrad 💔

[torpid karma]

since when did quebec have a whole focus tree

[tiny iris]

Gotta be a mod

[ivory hull]

hey its not vanilla bud

[zinc light]

Yeah this wouldnt Slide in basegame

[craggy trail]

It would be Ill-eagle

🦅

But apart from that, it's very close to vanilla gameplay in terms of mechanics with extra cold war technology to do in your tech tree

Military doctrine has also been extended past your vanilla doctrines

[zinc light]

Hm, sounds very nice

[craggy trail]

Crystals are a new resource which you can make magical weaponry with

It's also like a subsitute if you don't have enough tungsten

[torpid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-propaganda-stalinium-gif-16289670004460099406

[tiny iris]

Is cavalry divisions still a thing considering everyone is horses?

[craggy trail]

Nope

[zinc light]

Dude*tte you convinced me, I'm checking it Out
But I Play either Stalliongrad or not at all

[torpid karma]

why gif no work

[craggy trail]

So you would either have to use regular infantry, armored cars, or tanks for your garrisons

I've played with the extended air tech mod before

[tiny iris]

One horse gets a rifle. Another horse follows the horse. When the horse with the rifle dies, the other horse picks up the rifle!

[zinc light]

An actual use Case for armored Cars?

[craggy trail]

Yes

And you tend to make a lot more than you need

[zinc light]

And what If the rifle dies?

[heavy vigil]

Fast

[zinc light]

The Humble light Tank:

[heavy vigil]

Slow

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

[heavy vigil]

Cars also get more hp than tanks

[zinc light]

DAYUN

Breakthrough as in, just running over everyone?

[tiny iris]

Field hospitals?

[heavy vigil]

Break doesnt help you attack

[zinc light]

No assault engineers 😭

[heavy vigil]

I mean it does but it doesnt kill your enemies

[heavy vigil]

Fourth slot

[heavy vigil]

Veterancy

[zinc light]

Oh, thought that was a flametank

No flametanks 😭

[heavy vigil]

Cant do flames

They slow you down

[zinc light]

Hrm

Flame armored cars

[craggy trail]

I do have an immersion collection for EaW if you'd like

[sudden thistle]

U would drive into the flames

[craggy trail]

It's more of a QoL collection of different mods that doesn't add game changing mechanics

[sudden thistle]

What tank models does the mod have

I love my tank models

[craggy trail]

Bigger ships, more airplanes

Hello hello Chak

[proud sparrow]

im not sure why the automod flagged that as spam, tails, but this is your link

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2823036336

[craggy trail]

Yeah. I'm not exactly sure either. Thanks ^-^

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2823036336

[proud sparrow]

it said it was spam but yk

[zinc light]

That's Not how flamethtowers work...

[proud sparrow]

I flagged it as incorrect to discord, now I disappear yet again

Y'all behave now

[craggy trail]

[craggy trail]

This is the collection

@zinc light

[sudden thistle]

Flames go forwards

The car goes forwards

[zinc light]

Car goes forwards
Flame goes forwards aswell
Thus flame goes forwards faster

Conservation of momentum

20 Car +20 Flame = 40 flame

[sudden thistle]

Oh shi- ur kinda right

lol

But the flames slow down eventually

So u will end up driving through them eventually

[proud sparrow]

popping back in to agree, but only because the flame decals make the cars faster so ofc the flame is mroe effective

:p

[craggy trail]

There is this one by Alkaline
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3144391068

[sudden thistle]

Is that sprocket

[fickle cove]

someone recommend me a mod and i'll play it
rules: not that pony mod, not millennium dawn, not tno

[sudden thistle]

uhhhh

That 1800s mod for hoi4

Play GBR

[fickle cove]

already played it before

not as uk but yeah

[sudden thistle]

How am I supposed to know 😭

[fickle cove]

i actually played it at the very start of my summer holidays

now it's ending :(

[fickle cove]

fair enough

[zinc light]

Kaiserredux

[fickle cove]

what's the difference between kaiserreich and kaiserredux btw?

[zinc light]

More schizo paths

[craggy trail]

I don't think I'll be playing Beakolini today. There's just too much things to think about so I'll play a UPA ally

[sudden thistle]

Kx has more schizo

Kr is more realistic

[fickle cove]

ok then...

i'll consider playing either of these mods some day

[ruby flame]

really want to try and have fun with norway but MAN

[zinc light]

Is there a fascist ultranationalism Pony?

[ruby flame]

having 14 dudes total for manpower is rough

[fickle cove]

actually i'll play "across the dniepr" bc why not

[craggy trail]

The griffons have more of that thing

[sudden thistle]

It’s not that bad

I’m doing hist Norway rn

[craggy trail]

If you want something close to ww2 Germany, the Changeling Lands will do for you

[fickle cove]

i might honestly give "the fire rises" a shot again

any countries you guys would recommend?

[craggy trail]

Supremacy is EaW's "fascism ideology", but it defines a lot of other ideologies under it

[ruby flame]

i can field like 10 divs tops on limited con

[zinc light]

Oh, Uh, that Sounds pretty bad

[zinc light]

Why would you need more as friggin norway

[ruby flame]

to do anything more than just guard ports?

if you want to do any of the formables or any attacking

[craggy trail]

Kratocracy, Fascism, Plutocracy, Kleptocracy, Tyrannical Magocracy, Autocracy, Authoritarian Theocracy and much more

[zinc light]

Nah that's too complicated 💔

Gotta reduce that down to Maximum 3

Lawful, Neutral and Chaotic

[craggy trail]

It's sort of like Kaiserredux's way of doing ideology, but without a bunch of pie chart colors

[zinc light]

Yeah that's pretty ridiculous tbh

[serene token]

Hmm

[sudden thistle]

I’m on limited with 16

And some to spare

[craggy trail]

Well, at least you get a plethora of different supremacies, communisms, non-aligns and harmonies to choose from

[zinc light]

I Just want socialism and communism to be separate things 💔

[burnt delta]

bro this aint even close how am I blasting them so much

[glad forum]

i spread fake news on the equestria at war page

you havent caught me tho\

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/therapy-therapy-horz-head-pats-twidash-gif-18562876

That's okay. You help us indirectly

[glad forum]

what!!

how

[craggy trail]

🐴

[slim nexus]

Is the midget submarine actually useful in any way? because I don't see an advantage to having them

[serene token]

Would it cost a lot less?

[zinc light]

No.

[slim nexus]

Thought so 😂

[ruby flame]

are you using 10w or something

[zinc light]

They'd only ever be useful when you dont have Access to them, 36-38

[sudden thistle]

No

18w’s

[zinc light]

Unless you're absolutely rushing naval facilities (why?) you'll never get it at a meaningful time

[ruby flame]

i was too

[gilded vessel]

how am i supposed to break through this small of a border

[ruby flame]

and I had done the recruitable factor foci too

[sudden thistle]

I’m doing mass mob so that’s prob why

[zinc light]

Bro I was playing Austria and Switzerland declared on me 💔
Have fun pushing through a 1 tile doomstacked mountain

[ruby flame]

oh well yeah

[gilded vessel]

same

but france helped

[slim nexus]

Yeah no point, the 1936 subs outweigh them in every aspect

[sudden thistle]

The focus tree has some recruitable pop buffs

[zinc light]

Like you cant get anywhere with the midgets

Worse range than a inter-war small fighter

[slim nexus]

Why it's a special project is beyond me, waste of a breakthrough point

[warm forum]

They cooked here, ngl

New Japanese interface about to look gorgeous

[solemn crown]

looking for mod creator

[zinc light]

That is one hell of a glow-up

Yassified hiro

[sly berry]

y'know for all the bad rap congo free state has, belgian congo investments go crazy... afrique with a headstart. the tree has me like zamn!

[split bane]

He doesn't have a bunch of chins anymore

[wary shard]

is there a date for the japan dlc yet?

[zinc light]

I ragequitted my Last Congo Game because I started the Independence war during WW2... It's considered a war of Aggression, so I was fighting the Allies with nothing in 1942

[sly berry]

most of it is exploitation resource type of investment, but hey at least now you know and have the experience to extract them now

[zinc light]

Honestly, MP Game with belgium and Congo as Players could Go crazy

[sly berry]

Im something of a congo enthusiast myself...

[sly berry]

Yea i wonder whats the best way to optimize this

[soft yacht]

how do i deal with the chinese united front shitting troops out of their ass and the shitty supplies

[zinc light]

Ports 🙏

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-sith-anakin-vader-darth-vader-gif-19644107

[sly berry]

It is

[sly berry]

tutsi's should run congo thats all ima say

[deft agate]

No.

[sly berry]

a tip for this btw, you gotta speedrun the war

[deft agate]

Leopolds congo is the true congo

[sly berry]

Pfffft thats why I went for congolese belgium in the first place

[deft agate]

Who cares about human Rights

[night lintel]

weeb ☠️

[sly berry]

who said anything about that

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[sly berry]

im talking about vengeance brodie

[viscid stirrup]

But communism is better

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-newgens-gif-8678210315718230321

900 weekly manpower

[sly berry]

fascist congo that swears fealty to hitler... lets just say be involved in the invasion of belgium

[sudden thistle]

Wdym new gen’s ur 13

[sly berry]

and capture it all

[misty fossil]

alright

i shoulda go to bed lol

[round spindle]

so was none of you gonna tell me sweden is insanely good??

[sudden thistle]

It’s common knowledge

[misty fossil]

example par excellence of japanese people pinkwashing their history

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[round spindle]

i knew they was good but 80 factorys in 38??

[misty fossil]

factories*

jk its a minor

were you expecting 300?

[round spindle]

no

[craggy trail]

Mhm. Get some rest

[round spindle]

i was expecting 30

[misty fossil]

lol

i mean 80 is a lot

how did you get that many

[sudden thistle]

U can get like 300 as Denmark in 1940 I think

Or 41

[round spindle]

i hhave more than 80 tbh

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1414466708533547019/attachment.gif

[torpid karma]

didnt the dude kill like miliions of chinese

[torpid karma]

why are yal pink wraping him bruh

"Hirohito chan" or smn

[misty fossil]

yeah he did

lmao he absolutely did

dont let anyone tell you he didnt

[round spindle]

im playing sheeps

[torpid karma]

hoi4 players doing anything but get a job i swear

[round spindle]

i feel like im still gonna loose

[misty fossil]

what about married hoi4 players

[torpid karma]

was there a reason for it btw

[sudden thistle]

Have fun

It’s a great mod

[torpid karma]

nah they good

[round spindle]

ive played it a few times already

ive survived as soviets barely

[torpid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/mewkledreamy-yume-hinata-anime-anime-girl-sparkle-gif-26556656

[warm forum]

The Twinkification of the Emperor update. 🔥

[warm forum]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[torpid karma]

so the new dlc is for east asia(japan philipenes and who else?)

are they adding indo china?

[zinc light]

China definetly

And I'd think Siam aswell

[torpid karma]

uhh

[soft tendon]

99% isnt enough? 🙁

[torpid karma]

which one?

[zinc light]

I think an updated generic Warlord Tree and an expanded one for communist China and regular china

[torpid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-ben-shapiro-ben-shapiro-social-credit-gif-6133430005061019

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-social-credit-social-credit-score-meme-gif-23514807

[torpid karma]

hopefully they add a new mechanic(like how la resistance added operatives)

[silk furnace]

crazy expectations

[glad forum]

fideszes vagy

[silk furnace]

én ilyet nem állítottam

[split bane]

The new mechanic is gonna be the new faction and navy stuff

[silk furnace]

and the energy?

if that even happening

[split bane]

Oh yeah and coal

[soft tendon]

-# ??

[sudden thistle]

Too low

Go higher

[jolly kettle]

God I hope Siam gets a tree

[gilded vessel]

does everyone agree millenium dawn is a bad mod?

[soft tendon]

its overengineered

[gilded vessel]

yeah ig

[bronze mango]

I do believe manchukuo should get a rework over siam

[gilded vessel]

eh

[urban ivy]

no

[bronze mango]

Millennium dawn is horrible

[gilded vessel]

ive seen every single youtuber rank millenium dawn in either f tier or d tier bassicaly the lowest the tierlist goes except one guy with 158 subs

is kaiserredux better than kaiserreich?

[urban ivy]

i ve seen every youtuber use 4+ line arti in infantry divisions

so what s ur argument

personal preferences of a few?

[ivory hull]

md is by far not a bad mod

[urban ivy]

no clue i havent played any

[bronze mango]

Kaiserredux is better if you want whacky scenario and tons of content, kaiserreich if you want something more grounded

I personally prefer kx

[ivory hull]

kx has more content

[gilded vessel]

also alot of people seem to agree in the server

[ivory hull]

because they dont like actually thinking about their game

most people wanna just sit down and enjoy

[bronze mango]

Like if you enjoy your gameplay running at one ingame hour per real life week

[ivory hull]

its not even that bad anymore

and if you have a bad pc thats not the mods fault then

[gilded vessel]

yeah when youve got 20 different systems for economy,school it becomes hard to keep track of everything and makes games last days

[urban ivy]

same ppl that think ToE and GoE are good additions to the game?

[ivory hull]

their is an economy system, and a law system

which both are super easy

and are super cheeseable

[bronze mango]

My pc is amazing, all other mods run smoothly and fast, millennium dawn however did not

[ivory hull]

yea its not a fast mod

[urban ivy]

also, again. popularity is a determinant factor of wether something is good or not?

[bronze mango]

Not necessarily

[ivory hull]

people just dislike the mod, doesnt mean that all the mechanics arent good

[gilded vessel]

no mod can be objectively good or not its rather subjective

[ivory hull]

if all content is broken and doesnt work it is objectively bad

[icy crescent]

RT56 is nice, when you don't own many DLCs, I guess.

[ivory hull]

but its too bloaty

too many things that arent needed

especially the tech tree

[bronze mango]

And millennium dawn isn't

[ivory hull]

it partly is

but its also modern day

[icy crescent]

It allows people to create specific scenarios about the end of war and stuff.
Realistically you wouldn't play a game from 36 to 50.

[ivory hull]

which you cant ignore

rt56 just adds tech to late game

which a lot of ppl never even touch

[gilded vessel]

i mean i liked it when even tho i own all dlcs

[icy crescent]

It doesn't really change trees of smaller nations.
Romania, Yugoslavia and South Africa is pretty much the same.
Arguably even worse than base game.

[gilded vessel]

instead of having to download a focus tree mod for every country you play you can just install rt56

[ivory hull]

or just play kx

which is undoubtedly the best mod of all

[bronze mango]

Red dusk is the best 2000s mod

[ivory hull]

it is a-historical tho

[bronze mango]

It is indeed, and as such isn't a boring slog like md

[ivory hull]

the term boring is very subjective

people enjoy playing md

[bronze mango]

True I guess but I do find little redeeming qualities in md

If any

[ivory hull]

the gameplay is pretty slow

its not like any other hoi4 mod really

you dont conquer a lot

[bronze mango]

Or have any proxy wars to fight

[silk furnace]

and thats what basicly modern day is about

[ivory hull]

you have proxy wars in md

[urban ivy]

saying a mod is bad just because a certain amount of people said so doesnt make it bad

[silk furnace]

i think it represents modern day quite well

but thats my opinion

[urban ivy]

cause it s supposed to simulate a different time

a time where there s a big f king alliance

where starting wars aint that easy

[ivory hull]

and if you want a more fast-paced modern day mod just play novum vexillum

[urban ivy]

and ur actions have actual consequences

[ivory hull]

exactly

[urban ivy]

im waiting for the day when being war mobilized while at peace brings economic catastrophy in hoi4

[ivory hull]

modern day just doesnt allow war mongering

[urban ivy]

or it costs u very much to maintain 3 million people army

[ivory hull]

there are mods for that

[ivory hull]

hoi4 is still mainly a sandbox game, so the lack of those mechanics is explainable

[urban ivy]

also the ability to ceasefire if there s a stalemate at the border

[ivory hull]

every paradox game has it, its so dumb

[urban ivy]

for example, no provinces conquered by either side for a few months

i played great war redux with a friend of mine

cant say i liked it that much

[icy crescent]

Only smaller nations get the options for that.
And Peru.

[urban ivy]

it had plenty bugs

i played romania

greece (my friend) didnt join the war

so as a result

[ivory hull]

the devs removed every non-historical path from the game

[urban ivy]

czechoslovakia invaded hungary in 1919

post war

[ivory hull]

germany had 3 paths prior

now they have one

[urban ivy]

hungary didnt attack romania at all

and hungary ceased to exist

completely

and russia never had the civil war

[ivory hull]

the mod will soon die imo

[urban ivy]

well i went down the "monarchist" path

i didnt know how to make proper templates so i kinda lost the first battle when i joined the war

kinda historical so far

[ivory hull]

the whole reason for its creation was the lack of non-historical options in the great war

[urban ivy]

i was locked on being social democrat

with 0% democracy support

100% monarchy support

and couldn't bring carol back

[ivory hull]

yea no the devs rlly killed the mod

[urban ivy]

i mean

the balkan war studf

temporary alliances that vanish once their purpose is done

[ivory hull]

but that was never new to the great war

the whole purpose of the redux version was the non-historical aspect

but now that it got removed

its just a rework basically

[lime python]

I hate kaiserreich

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY EVENTS

[solemn rose]

yeah

it sucks

[lime python]

Litterally some bullshits pops up every 3 seconds

The worst part is that you need to read the event to understand which button you need to press

[brittle cypress]

It’s a story mod lol

TNO lite

you’re meant to read

[umbral agate]

why doesnt it cross

wait nvm

[woven beacon]

hello world!

[eternal palm]

Ship blocking the strait

[uncut pollen]

Hello world X10

[gaunt shale]

Hello.

[ebon rover]

Hi

[umbral agate]

i didnt invite denmark thts why

[hoary mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/bateau-suez-ever-given-evergreen-canal-gif-21406192

[ebon rover]

Guys, do you a method to make the colony rebel to their owner?

[woven beacon]

can i send gifs?

[gaunt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/hear-me-out-gif-21028746

[woven beacon]

if youre playing as colony just give your owner stuff

and youd gain points

but you cant attack on your owner as its colony

[ebon rover]

I mean the colony of France or uk as Italy

[woven beacon]

woah

it would be harder i think

[ebon rover]

I know that's why i want to free their colony

[woven beacon]

youre playing as italy right?

[solemn rose]

immigrant

[ebon rover]

Yes

[woven beacon]

what year is it

[gaunt shale]

The heck?

[ebon rover]

1941 and the game is on ai not history focused

[woven beacon]

woah ppl dont play on historical, well a lot of strange stuff going on non historical... just try to give your owner stuff and help them in the war

youll gain those points to get free then

[ebon rover]

I'm not a colony

[heavy vigil]

Most people do

In singleplayer

Historical gets very boring

[ebon rover]

I know germans killed the duce and now we are in the central Power with Austrian Hungarian empire

[woven beacon]

true xd but nopn historical can get very strange

[heavy vigil]

Just memorize all paths of all nations?

Thats what i mostly do

[woven beacon]

true

[sharp sierra]

non historical is fun and if you really dont want sometihn to happen you can just set a countryto go normal and still get achievements

[heavy vigil]

Well

I only memorize it to help people

In an actual game it isnt really predictable as much

[fickle cove]

I NEED A MOD WITH WOMAN LEADERS.

THIS IS MY THIRD TIME ASKING FOR THAT AND I'M GOING TO CRASH OUT.

[sharp sierra]

like gender swaps or what

theres anime ones right

[hoary mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/citiesskylines-ship-cs-spinning-cities-skylines-gif-25420392

[uncut pollen]

Thats Not what i wanted😭

[uncut pollen]

Thats new

[stoic mortar]

Kaiserreich

[uncut pollen]

Yeah but the Leader and the flag is new

[stoic mortar]

True

[sudden thistle]

Mehhh

U can tell from spirits, events, and the political pie chart

[neat kayak]

dude i can't get the achv cuz japan doesn't invade me

[zinc rune]

sprocket spotted, peak detected

[lethal ether]

being a hoi4 player has alot of burnout involved

[neat kayak]

JAPAN DOESN'T HAVE A NAVY AND THEY DON'T INVADE

what's wrong with this ai

it's almost 1949

The world

they keep putting troops around me and then they remove the order

[lethal ether]

what u playing as

[neat kayak]

Australia

i only need the achv for nuking core territory

and it's done

but the ai won't invade

[sharp sierra]

i saw a tihng where you do it during a civil war

[neat kayak]

i even took the US troops

for them to invade

nope

they lost all their screens

[sharp sierra]

are you on non historical or what

[heavy vigil]

Yeah but

[neat kayak]

historical

[sharp sierra]

y

[heavy vigil]

Too many countries to keep track of

Lol

[sharp sierra]

also why not go fascist and just delcare war on everybody

someones bound to invade you

[neat kayak]

i don't have the patience to research everything for nukes again

[neat kayak]

my game crashed cuz i restarted the save

GOD I HATE THE AI

[sharp sierra]

why are my cas glitched

[neat kayak]

gonna try again this time fascist

i hate this game so much

[simple plank]

thats not ataturk😭 🙏

[sharp sierra]

thats much better

[simple plank]

level 6 general 100% attack 100% defence 100% capture ratio and shi

[sharp sierra]

hm

1. italian
2. soviet
3. uk
4. france
5. the rest

[uncut pollen]

I posted it in the wrong chat

[sharp sierra]

thats a lot of red

dont battleplan yet

encircle all those junk units

[uncut pollen]

Im gonna do that tommorow

[sharp sierra]

u need more units

[uncut pollen]

When hopefully you are online

[sharp sierra]

u should get another field marshalls worth of infantry and other good units

[night lintel]

don't post TFR too much here you can get bonked by mods

[sharp sierra]

you would know that better than anyone

[uncut pollen]

If i get more weapons and stuff

[night lintel]

what

[sharp sierra]

i remember you posting it constantly and getting told

i think it was you anyways

[uncut pollen]

Because im all Out of that

[sharp sierra]

cuz ur battleplanning

[uncut pollen]

-70k weapons

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-breaking-glass-when-the-opponent-joonsproof-gif-25498015

that also means your units have the worst equipment they can have

[uncut pollen]

Yeah i can imagine

[sharp sierra]

old stuff

[dusky burrow]

oh no it's fevzi çakmak

[uncut pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373957098538406048/1389314666873749524/caption.gif

[uncut pollen]

Great grandpa stuff

That He got in His cellar

Randomly

[elder bane]

It's probably been asked a million times, but when are the challenges coming back?

[zinc rune]

why

[night lintel]

modern politicians lol

[night lintel]

idk probably ping chak

[zinc rune]

i finally did it

i completed TFR for the first time

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[zinc rune]

and mexico is still in the civil war lmao

[night lintel]

now try to do atomwaffen division

[zinc rune]

i tried to play as usa once but the civil war for some reason didnt happen

[night lintel]

it does happen always

[rain quail]

@frosty plinth I can play soon if you want

[bronze mango]

Something broke clearly

[shadow mango]

What has been the most brutal war yall have ever had
Like both countries are on scraping the barrel etc

I had one with my friend right now and we agreed to just take whatever countries we have taken and draw a boarder between us

Was really fun

[ripe slate]

Gotta be with China or USSR, if I exclude the manpower law

[severe saddle]

fascist Azerbaijan has a weird name

[rustic furnace]

Id say its a pretty fire name

[rose tartan]

Any suggestions for my 100 achievement?

[hoary mortar]

bruh

[hollow narwhal]

my save somehow got bricked in vanilla ...

[dusky burrow]

Azerbaijan IRL is known as the Land of Fire due to Zoroastrian heritage (where fire has significant religious meaning) and petroleum deposits that were known since antiquity

[urban ivy]

thanks for the shared knowledge

i will play democratic der fuhrer konrad adenauer germany

[zinc light]

when should you usually be done with german civil war?

I started right away and finished at the end of the year

huh?

[dusky burrow]

Lmao Weserübung in 1936

[zinc light]

it was the civil war 😭

[random vortex]

which is the best to choose? Last time i chose chita and well oof

[zinc light]

it's funny to me how the Commie Germany path is 2 civil wars back to back

[drifting kiln]

chita probably

its not that hard to win the soviet civil war just make sure to get as much land as possible in the start

and like make all their templates 10 arty

[random vortex]

my only issue is attrition

you get it almost instantly

especially in this part of ussr

and you dont have the equipment to do that

[drifting kiln]

well everyone gets attrition and i still managed to win it many times

[sudden grotto]

Chita

[zinc light]

you can start it in Kaliningrad?

good luck ever getting back to mainland russia and finishing that revolution

[drifting kiln]

im pretty sure you can avoid it

[drifting kiln]

also wdym are u talking about the german civil war ?
?

[zinc light]

just getting that revolution thing in all states?

[drifting kiln]

yes

[zinc light]

nah that russin war

[zinc light]

oh thats very handy

[drifting kiln]

ok but why are you saying start it in kaliningrad you cant do that at the start of the game since russia doesnt own that

[drifting kiln]

i mean the german one not the russian one

its inevitable

[zinc light]

oh there's 2 primorye

one in kaliningrad and one near vladivostok

[drifting kiln]

bro why are you keep kalling it kaliningrad

at the start of the game its konigsberg

[drifting kiln]

its the second

[zinc light]

yea so I figured

[sudden falcon]

ok yeah im killing the french

no way they're gonna balkanize the balkans

[zinc light]

how dare they make balkan in balkan

[drifting kiln]

why didnt u take besserabia

[pale oxide]

Never have i ever used this many commanders

[sudden falcon]

wdym

[ruby flame]

oh shoot is it 2025 already? time for another italy game

[iron orbit]

Why does Germany require more and more factories for consumer goods as the game progresses?

[sudden falcon]

its not a focus for the romanov side

[sudden falcon]

economy of conquest

[iron orbit]

Yeah but what does that mean

[ruby flame]

My, le print money scheme, is breaking?

[drifting kiln]

russia is meant to own besserabia

[sudden falcon]

it has like 3 factories

[analog ivy]

green air

i destroyed all of their planes

[iron orbit]

But we never paid the war manufacturers???

[sudden falcon]

i dont even have a claim on bessarabia

[iron orbit]

They were promissory notes

[drifting kiln]

bro your still meant to have it as russian empire

[sudden falcon]

it will do absolutely nothing

no claim or core

[drifting kiln]

u obviously had a peace deal with them so u couldve taken it

[drifting kiln]

the other lands you took didnt..

[sudden falcon]

cuz larp

[drifting kiln]

well besserabia is more larp bro u are just contradicting yourself

[sudden falcon]

how about i puppet bessarabia

and then annex bhutan

and tibet

[analog ivy]

karl donuts is the new german leader

[drifting kiln]

ok

[zinc light]

solid plan

[drifting kiln]

rip hitler

[bronze mango]

If only this happened in base game

[sudden falcon]

rip?

[zinc light]

dont you just love it when the German Reich is everywhere but in Germany

[sudden falcon]

dont you love it when you have to take every german core to cap them

[zinc light]

yeah its kinda ridiculous

[rigid root]

what is with this lie

it was made to add more content

[analog ivy]

rest in pieces to hitler 🥀

[bronze mango]

Good riddance

[drifting kiln]

its not unrealistic

[analog ivy]

yeah especially when i have to GO THROUGH THE ALPINE MOUNTAINS

[drifting kiln]

alright bro everyone has their opinions need need to make it politcal

[zinc light]

if you think its a viable political discussion to have, you're already on the wrong side of the discussion

[analog ivy]

germany never did barbarossa either

thats why its taking so long

[bronze mango]

"Dont get political" and its literally hitler

[analog ivy]

like stalin isnt even at war with germany

[lapis snow]

just focus on vienna rather than grinding into the alps bruh

[analog ivy]

thats what im doing

i get all of the war score since the USSR never was in the war

[lapis snow]

genius attacking from zero supply but oh well

[zinc light]

why did germany own krakow but not zoelzie

disgusting borders

[lapis snow]

General Government

[bronze mango]

Cause that's the general government

[dusky burrow]

I mean seems to be working well enough

[zinc light]

ah, makes sense

[lapis snow]

I know, I just find it odd to attack from there when there was a frontline on the Donau west of Vienna where attrition wouldn't be awful

[dusky burrow]

German forces are thin, and you might be able to expand the perimeter or even take Graz

[analog ivy]

yay i puppeted germany and italy

[analog ivy]

supply doesnt matter if im attacking them through plains with 6 heavy tank destroyers and full air support

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[lapis snow]

clown opinion but ok

[analog ivy]

well i wasnt pushing through the mountains in the first place and just capped italy so i could take austria from the south. it literally took like 5 seconds to take austria after italy capped lmao

[lapis snow]

I noticed...

the point I was making is you approached from a weird angle

[analog ivy]

well low supply doesnt matter if theres like 3 divs defending plains while 6 heavy tank destroyers under full air support attacks them

and also i got supply like 2 seconds after taking that screenshot cause my tanks walked into a city

[lapis snow]

the fact its TDs doesn't really help since its SP and you'll never need TDs to pierce

but I see your point

[kind igloo]

@oak coral unblock me

[analog ivy]

well i made them because i had like 70 mils remaining

[drifting kiln]

they usually dont even they cant kill frannce

[analog ivy]

and i wanted to do something different

[oak coral]

Your not blocked…..

[kind igloo]

you are

[sudden grotto]

freedom at last...

[dusky burrow]

looks at Argentina

[sudden grotto]

...

We dont talk about them.

( if you zoom in leningrad there Is a Little independent Russia somehow )

[dusky burrow]

i see

[sudden falcon]

the japanese just sank every ship i own

[iron orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/hussain-gamerkhasan24-imam-fnaf-lore-kosovo-hood-moments-gif-24675404

[serene token]

Toddlers when you're trying to take something away that they shouldn't have:

[fallow grove]

Any advice to play as him?

[serene token]

You want actual fun that isn't you just reenacting WW2

[fallow grove]

How

[serene token]

Go down the far right path

Aka, refuse the Rineland rearmament.

[fallow grove]

It changed the ideology and I can’t invade people

[serene token]

It will put you into a civil war.

Wait, is it with Gott?

[fallow grove]

Yes

[serene token]

Go down the path that causes the civil war.

[fallow grove]

It changes the ideology

[serene token]

To non aligned, if I recall

[fallow grove]

And removes hitler

[serene token]

Then you can either do, Monarchist, Democratic, or Communist.

[fallow grove]

I wanna keep der fuhrer

[serene token]

Okay

Gosh, I haven't played Germany yet, I know that you can go down into a civil war and such.

[spring hedge]

france just gained the spirit disjointed government

irl

[serene token]

So true.

And Japans prime minister is resigning.

Come on Hirohito, we need you.

[feral lark]

hashtag we have reserves?

[left holly]

Do y’all think I might be able to make any money doing hoi4 mod commissions? I don’t see many people doing it so idk

[plucky girder]

you don't need to switch ideology to do cool stuff, you can keep hitler and get an alliance with China for example thru the normal focus tree or even ally the soviet union

tons of paths

just play the game normally and try not make the mefo bills explode you country

or make all of the balkans surrend to you

in the other ideology paths you literally just annex countries with the press of a button wish unless you like that kind of stuff I think it's just inferior outside for bonuses

shit I wanna play Germany rn

[wide mantle]

so i just completely forgot that i had a navy building up

[left sigil]

does anyone know shit about computers

[sudden grotto]

San Diego dockyards are very famous for Building shit non stop

[wide mantle]

yeah the supply situation there is TOO good

turn on auto paymeny

and build more office blocks to produce more money

[near schooner]

im not in a deficit

[wide mantle]

ts is what a good economy in tfr looks like

[wide mantle]

just turn on auto payments and turn off bank liquidity

[near schooner]

okay ty

[wide mantle]

man i love the economy in this mod

[wide mantle]

inflation doesnt rlly matter tbh

doesnt have much of an impact

to prevent inflation

keep interest rates at medium

if u want to get rid of it , change to high

[near schooner]

not having debt its good?

[dusky burrow]

Inflation is generally a problem irl tbh

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/pyrocynical-sog-soggy-owl-wet-gif-10621712052919946334

[sudden thistle]

what was sheep cooking

[dusky burrow]

Okay what was sheep cooking here lmao

[sudden thistle]

idk i tagged over to sov

[dusky burrow]

Remove the AT

Is that a howitzer tank division

[sudden thistle]

they are my enemy nuh uh

[sudden thistle]

small cannon

2

[dusky burrow]

Yeah Sheep changed their medium tank divisions because they were bugged and not updating

[dusky burrow]

Actually now that you say that they probably aren't upgrading properly

[dusky burrow]

Sad!

[sudden thistle]

copy this over to bug report then i guess?

[dusky burrow]

Sheep knows about this

[sudden thistle]

ok

[dusky burrow]

Soviets are hard to play tbh

[gusty oracle]

you just have to hold the line

[sudden thistle]

i got battle planned for the entirety of barb

since the host chose the hardest sov option by "mistake"

[dusky burrow]

Oof

Yeouch

[sudden thistle]

u wanna watch the stream while i try to fix it

[dusky burrow]

True, but it's so hair pulling

Stressful

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

Where is it

[sudden thistle]

how about the sheep server

[wide mantle]

yeah

[dusky burrow]

Sure

[sharp sierra]

is there a penalty to training airplanes on an overstacked airbase

[sudden grotto]

Thats such a insignificant debt compared tò the GDP ngl

[sudden grotto]

Ig more accidents

They crush into each other lol

[sharp sierra]

yea i would think so

[kind vale]

What mod they playing?

[sharp sierra]

i got 15k training on one base i dont see any losses

🤷‍♂️

[sudden grotto]

Dunno, i am was talking Just about the comparison gdp/debt lol

Ig iron curtain?

But there are some unique flags

[kind vale]

Looks different from iron curtain

[sudden grotto]

Does TFR have an economy system?

From the map It looks like modern day map

You can see luhansk and Donetsk Independent in ukraine

[kind vale]

Is TFR good?

[sudden grotto]

Never played 🙏

Tho i saw some hella schizo paths

[kind vale]

Well time to play it ig

[sudden grotto]

"what if, the whole world was alabama"

[kind vale]

WHAT

You ever played the red dusk mod?

[sudden grotto]

I hardly play any mods 💔

[kind vale]

Rip😭

[sudden grotto]

Last time was with the TNO, ragebaited After losing yazov for the 5th time

[kind vale]

💀😭

[dusky burrow]

Good run, but yeah oof

[quick bane]

TFR is like the best mod ever trust me

[kind vale]

Doubt

[sharp sierra]

the fart rises

the new odor

[sudden grotto]

Great war redux >>>>>>>>

[sharp sierra]

great worn speedo

[kind vale]

I have the mod just haven't tried it yet

[dusky burrow]

GWR is nice but it forces you to use line artillery

🤢

[quick bane]

Great war redux used to be good but then they started removing paths

[sudden grotto]

The most OP unit ever

[kind vale]

Mmm line artillery🤤

[sudden grotto]

No more commie ottomans ? 🙏

[kind vale]

"Mussolini Fresh Out The Shower"?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[dusky burrow]

Ottomans aren't reworked I think

Italy has

[sudden grotto]

Its the old path

There Is a Path to become commie

I dunno id they took It off

I Remember they used to have one

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/muye-benito-mussolini-duce-gif-22671105

[dusky burrow]

https://tenor.com/bRhEd.gif

[kind vale]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-black-hawk-view-gif-21289725

[sharp sierra]

im sick of this

[kind vale]

Japanese Raj?

[sharp sierra]

just this indian mess

[kind vale]

Nuke them

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that is definitely not working as intended

After defeating them Japan can't annex any of those states

And it's perpetually in famine

[paper echo]

Good mod but I hate that they remove alt history

[dusky burrow]

Germany alt history? Or some other nation

[paper echo]

I think they wanna remove every alt hist slowly

From all countries

That's what I noticed

[dusky burrow]

I've heard they've added a lot of Italy alt-history

[paper echo]

I haven't played the rework yet

There's a new ww1 mod being made which will have more alt hist things

[paper echo]

But they started working on it like 2 weeks ago or less

[kind vale]

"What if Germany had tigers in ww1"

[paper echo]

What if Germany had Adolf in ww1

As a leader

[kind vale]

He was in the army

[paper echo]

Ik but what if he became the leader and wasn't in the army in ww1

Imagine that as alt hist path

I would like that

[sharp sierra]

so like 25 year old hitler

[kind vale]

We was around that age when he started taking over Germany so its definitely reasonable

[sharp sierra]

he was 25 in 1914

[kind vale]

Ah shit

Im stupid

[coral gorge]

call it howitzer please

🔥

[split bane]

The mod got rid of most of the German alt history because it was super schizo but they are making German alt history stuff that will release at a later time

[paper echo]

I love schizo paths ngl

[near schooner]

name?

[paper echo]

It's not uploaded on steam but I think it will be named the war to end all

[near schooner]

okay

[paper echo]

It's super early on development

[near schooner]

i love mods whit alt-hist content that start normal

[sudden grotto]

Commie ottomans...hre...no...NO....NOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[paper echo]

I love doing the most cursed paths

[sudden thistle]

U want the save lol

[paper echo]

They need to add greek Turkish union 🔥🔥

[sudden thistle]

Will be fun

[near schooner]

idk why but most of the times i just do the communist path

[sudden grotto]

They should add eyalets.

For the sake of larp

[paper echo]

I do fascist mostly

[dusky burrow]

Sure

[serene token]

Do y'all still listen to Sabaton?

Just curious.

[sudden thistle]

He

Ye

[serene token]

You ever heard The Beast from them?

[sharp sierra]

you dont wanna know how badly i think of sabaton

autistic bull shit

[serene token]

Lol

[sharp sierra]

avenged sevenfold but ten times worse

shit drums shit everything

[pearl jackal]

hi

[sharp sierra]

its why nobody likes rock and guitar music anymore

[serene token]

Hey, I know their newer songs are not really good, but Sabaton has gotten me into metal.

[sharp sierra]

i dont even consider metal a real genre anymore

its always overproduced trash with annoying fast kick drumming

[craggy trail]

Are you sure you can carry it? It sure is heavy metal

[sharp sierra]

i got a term for it i call it pop metal

[serene token]

Listen to old Metallica and Megadeth songs.

[sharp sierra]

early metallica is heavy sabaton isnt

even with lars terrible drumming

[serene token]

I never said Sabaton was metal, my dad noticed that I listened to Sabaton a lot when I was like 13-14, and he told me to listen to Metallica.

[sharp sierra]

💀

[craggy trail]

The sheep 🐑

[sharp sierra]

he was like damn you listening to that trash listen to something thats at least ok

get on the alice in chains train

[serene token]

I also listen to Alice in Chains.

[sharp sierra]

its my favorite band

listen to jerry cantrells solo music too

[serene token]

My favorite is Megadeth, they are still kicking out good Metal songs.

[sharp sierra]

yea megadeth is good if i can stand the singing

whats ur favorite megadeth song

[serene token]

Gosh, hard choice.

I like their newer stuff, but I still love their older stuff.

When I play Buckshot Roulette, I play My Last Words.

United Abominations (the song) is good.

[sharp sierra]

hav u heard trust

[serene token]

Yea.

[sharp sierra]

i like that one a bit

and she wolf

i havent really listened them much tho

[serene token]

Hook in Mouth fits a lot of stuff that is going on rn.

[sharp sierra]

ig you like pantera too

[serene token]

Yea

Also Korn

[sharp sierra]

i wish there were more bands that had a similar sound to alice in chains theres just nothing that comes close besides soundgarden and these other bands etc

[serene token]

Stone Temple Pilots?

[sharp sierra]

cant find a little band that was never popular that sounds as good

yea theyre one that holds a candle to it

[serene token]

Dead and Bloated is great.

[sharp sierra]

yea im just kinda tired of hearing it

[serene token]

Fair

[sharp sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9auMQbbWlAk&list=OLAK5uy_kSGcWoJCPw2x9JAU--jZtXRzPLrj8SLSI&index=13

[misty fossil]

does mounting an air ground radar on carrier planes help with night penalty during a fleet engagement?

[serene token]

You heard of Tool?

[sharp sierra]

well yea

[misty fossil]

@heavy vigil obligatory ping because i trust you

[sharp sierra]

i havent listened much to them

their singer seems meh

[serene token]

I like tool, but that's my opinion.

Sodom?

[sharp sierra]

i eed to listen more before i say i didnt hear the musical genius everyone talks about with them

never heard that one

[serene token]

One of their albums is linked to some sort of theory in math, its a card in Balatro.

[sharp sierra]

do they sound like booty

[serene token]

I'll give you a song to listen to.

https://youtu.be/CjP2HZ4-5ps?si=qmGRU95FM-7kWaIE

[sharp sierra]

i dont really like it

i wish there was more heavy music with real singing that actually sounds good

[serene token]

Yea

I feel like the old metal is making a comeback.

And that should probably influence the newer metal bands.

[sharp sierra]

idk i just feel like theyll never have a good sound

theres always a weak link with modern rock and guitar music whether its overproduction or shit playing/singing

but ig that only depends on what i consider a good sound

guess they dont cater to that anymore or something

[serene token]

Yea

You heard of the YouTube channel named Soup?

[sharp sierra]

probably not

[serene token]

He has a band called Slackjaw.

[misty fossil]

for whom the bell tolls?

and kickstart my heart

[serene token]

Then add To Live Is To Die

[misty fossil]

ok

yeah ima check that out

[serene token]

Made by Metallica, it was a tribute to Cliff Burton, Metallics guitarist who died

[sharp sierra]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Chains_(album) i just need more of this

[misty fossil]

hm

why not

[serene token]

Down in a hole

[sharp sierra]

i know all of their songs

thers just nobody making music that good

[near schooner]

beautiful

[serene token]

So true

[serene token]

Ah, a STALKER Fan

[blazing peak]

I'm having an issue, I'm playing a USSR game and two of my spies were captured by the Generalgouvernment but it won't give me the choice to mount a rescue operation for either of them. The option to set up the rescue operation doesn't appear in the menu. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[sharp sierra]

its actually too scary i can barely play

i have autumn aurora installed tho

[serene token]

Try Heart of Chernobyl after.

[sharp sierra]

im not interested in the new one

[serene token]

Why?

[sharp sierra]

idk

the original 3 and the modding scene theres so much more soul

stalker 2 has issues anyways i think

shadow of chernobyl is the real shit especially with the mod i got

but its almost too much

[serene token]

They are getting patched though

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7I2H0P7uQU

try this

[serene token]

https://youtu.be/n-QDGBnCqoQ?si=InMe3k18yQPM3k_3

[sharp sierra]

this is why nobody likes rock or guitar music anymore

[misty fossil]

why

[sharp sierra]

who tricked you into thinking that sounds good

[misty fossil]

it sounds good

[sharp sierra]

ur nuts

[misty fossil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

why do you think its bad

[sharp sierra]

terrible drumming overproduced

and i like real singing

i like singing theres not any singing

[misty fossil]

that makes sense

idk i dont mind whatever

[sharp sierra]

yea i hate being so hard on what other people think sounds good its obviously a subjective thing

but damn

[misty fossil]

nah its alright

i mean

its your music tastes

doesnt hurt anyone to say what you think

[sharp sierra]

im kind of a music elitist whether i want to be or not

[misty fossil]

unlike me lol

i just listen to anything that sounds nice

if it works im not questioning it

[sharp sierra]

idk im not like that music is more of an active thing for me i dont just have it playing all the time

if im listening to it my head considers it the best of the best

[clear dagger]

do recon planes help with sub detection?

[sharp sierra]

i have no idea but i feel like probably not unless it gives air detection in the zone or something

[misty fossil]

just make naval bombers with air search radars

and use those recon planes over the frontline for the stat boost to ground combat

[heavy vigil]

Huh

[misty fossil]

i asked something above

[near schooner]

bruh

[heavy vigil]

Idk if it does

[sudden thistle]

Good morning

[misty fossil]

oh

[heavy vigil]

Hii

[serene token]

Good morning

[heavy vigil]

Good morning i guess

[near schooner]

holy i just unpaused for like 30 seconds

[sudden thistle]

Did I show u my funny hoi4 game

[serene token]

Wait, is it morning for Christ?

[heavy vigil]

No

[serene token]

Oh

[near schooner]

shit i didnt know NATO would join

[clear dagger]

oh yeah i forgot about air search radars

[heavy vigil]

Idk where christ lives but according to christianity he is in everyone, so it must be morning for one of the people

[sudden thistle]

Only screenshots I could find

But sheep’s was fun

4 person Germany co-op

[serene token]

Wow

[sudden thistle]

I’m in everyone but also in your walls

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1414531663677100074/attachment.gif

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-in-the-walls-in-the-walls-wall-muppet-panicking-gif-27546618

[misty fossil]

wanna know whats bad