hoi4-general

[hollow anvil]

Literally stats here

It doesn't lower defense

[daring geyser]

people barely know about how to lvl up spies and shit or what it even does

[daring geyser]

it's lower in comparison to the armored engineer company

by a lot looking at the wiki

[eternal palm]

I really dont have a problem with that, thats a you issue.

[daring geyser]

it's +25% on forest for the armored, and 10% on plains which are where you'll be fighting most of the time

[hollow anvil]

Ywah it is lowered

Compared to

[eternal palm]

Its entirely situational. And you took this out of context. This is mp specific. In sp, you want to be attacking all the time, thats not true in mp. So sov would usually do armored, but ger would do assault

[hollow anvil]

Just be the one clicking

[daring geyser]

why is the north american aviation mio better than lockheed for the american heavy fighters?

do you remember

[eternal palm]

Cuz thats the range MIO

and range MIO is 2nd best

or best for heavy fighters in general

[daring geyser]

that doesn't sound very specific innit

[eternal palm]

What are u tryna say

Its as simple as "range mio good"

it aint that deep bro

[daring geyser]

that no one can remember everything in details, and also the american heavy fighter isn't good because of range

[eternal palm]

I dont gotta regurgitate the entire discussion of range vs light MIO

Dont gotta be smartassy about this either

[daring geyser]

in mp it's not that, tanks are usually trash at defending because on attack they have much more breakthrough, hence the word "clicking"

when you have maximum planning bonus, your tank on offensive will outstat any tank defending provided it's a plains tile

if you have air, forest tiles too

[eternal palm]

Dawg u dont gotta explain this to me

It is as simple as "armored good when defending"

assault obv being for attack

idek what ur on about

[daring geyser]

i told you your statement about mp being more defensive is pretty invalid

[sudden thistle]

🤨

What kinda mp games bro playing

[heavy vigil]

6 when free

4 when puppet

2 at game start

Dont have to teach me about new zealand

[eternal palm]

mhm

idk do u play msb or sum

maybe fuwg

never saw u on rb

[daring geyser]

every mp game? there's not a single instance where being defensive on a mp game is a winning move, except on egypt but even then commonwealth tends to just battleplan with special forces the second germany is out of egypt

i don't play rb

[eternal palm]

That might explain the issue here

[daring geyser]

i'm part of the brazilian hoi4 community

[eternal palm]

Well, sov cant really attack in the current patch lol

[daring geyser]

we do play semicomp too, weekly

[daring geyser]

yeah

hence they die

[eternal palm]

So they kinda have to defend

[heavy vigil]

He plays gorilla tatics

[eternal palm]

Figured

[daring geyser]

it was one of the teams that played in the recent kr tourney

[heavy vigil]

No

[sudden thistle]

Did that kr tourney end rlly fast

[heavy vigil]

It wasnt

[daring geyser]

dam

[heavy vigil]

Vreis joined og but there wasnt a brazillian team

There was a turkish one though

[daring geyser]

there even were announcements on the server bout our team name

thought we had participated

[eternal palm]

And got trounced by segl, gg no re. I wouldve played too if I had time

[daring geyser]

titans of brazil will have a comeback 😔

[heavy vigil]

Vreis was like the only decent og build in finals lol

[hollow anvil]

Why?

[eternal palm]

Ger has giga stats and like 50% more mils than u

and thats just ger alone

GTD was an awful patch for russia

sov if they're good gets 180-200 mils. Maybe even 240. Ger just gets 300 minimum

[hollow anvil]

How to win as russia against germany then 😭 cuz I'm playing with a friend, like 1v1

[eternal palm]

Oh thats different

I was talking like comp hist mp

[hollow anvil]

Ohh

Ok

[eternal palm]

There russia dies in 14 months

In like a 1v1, eh russia just goes mass mob, rushes gun3 and goes to sleep

but ye ger prob still has a better chance of winning

cuz giga stats and more factories

[heavy vigil]

(if they have a brain)

[eternal palm]

I said probably

[heavy vigil]

this is often not the case in friend 1v1s or theyd play like commanders or something

[hollow anvil]

That won't work if germany has a brain 😭

[heavy vigil]

Wdym?

[hollow anvil]

Like all they need to stop this Is air superiority

[eternal palm]

so like on average, ger has a better chance of winning than sov

[heavy vigil]

They need to have howitzer tanks in every tile

Air wont stop it

Your eco is just bad

[eternal palm]

The AA in question:

[hollow anvil]

It's that hard to stop just mass mob infantry?

[eternal palm]

u can negate 75% of cas damage just by having 10.5 air attack

[heavy vigil]

Yes

[hollow anvil]

Oh

[heavy vigil]

Because you can always beat their defensive infantry

[eternal palm]

And u have a commando guy, so you can ssign camoflage to him

[heavy vigil]

So if theyre ill prepared they just lose

Like average bad germany player has maybe 20-30 tanks by barb

And you will just pin them in combat forever + go around

[hollow anvil]

Bad???? I get 5 tanks by barb 😭

[heavy vigil]

Now it requires doing actual eco as ussr

[hollow anvil]

(I have 40 hours in game)

[heavy vigil]

But if you wanna do it dumb stupid

Save up pp for attache to spain, then go war eco

As soon as you have war eco just only do mils and rush baltics

Ideally youd have collabs on the baltics but ok if you dont just liberated workers

Justifying on them instead of focus also saves time

And rush down the purges, and then rush down five year plan

Ignore air tree, ignore navy tree

Do PCDI and everything that gives production cap

And youll get there

[hollow anvil]

I mean fighting under red air is brutal, cuz u get -25% to stats

[eternal palm]

-35%*

It gets worse

[hollow anvil]

Yeah 😭

[heavy vigil]

Ok but youll win

[zinc rune]

border gore

[urban ivy]

-30% defense

aint that bad

but not having cas is brutal

[simple plank]

my uncle:

[hollow anvil]

hey, thats gay 😭

[simple plank]

but it is femboy

[hollow anvil]

yeah i know, you arent supposed to point out i have a femboy pfp 😭

on a hoi4 discord 😭

[simple plank]

and i love femboy's

[hollow anvil]

oman

[simple plank]

there's nothing wrong with it

[hollow anvil]

i know 😭

[simple plank]

you know my fav mod in hoi4 is the my waifu is the furher mod you should try it

[simple plank]

lile dead ass dude you should play it

[hollow anvil]

im new to hoi4, i have like 40 hours still

im figuring out the game 😭

[simple plank]

okay thats fine nothing wrong with that

[simple plank]

but you should play it and my femboy roomate is also a peak game

[abstract trench]

what am i doing in this situation?

[heavy vigil]

Dont make nsfw references on this server :>

[wind swift]

Ty

[urban ivy]

attacking germany

[zinc light]

Lose

[urban ivy]

going monarchist instead of fascist

[urban ivy]

using shit divisions

[urban ivy]

no air

[tiny plank]

Wish we could get newfoundland as a separate country that starts as a integrated puppet

[urban ivy]

what else

[tiny plank]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_of_Newfoundland

[strong belfry]

1939 and 32 factory 🙏 restart

[urban ivy]

no manpower, stability, war support

or factories

[abstract trench]

i just annaxed czhehia

[normal bloom]

3pp soooo nice

[abstract trench]

and germany declared me war

[urban ivy]

senor

[tiny plank]

Die

[normal bloom]

indeed

[strong belfry]

you had to give up at sdutland

[urban ivy]

u re too late

by 1939 u should have formed austria hungary already

with all their territories

[abstract trench]

u are right i guess

i will restart

[hidden seal]

https://tenor.com/view/astrald-sol-rng-gif-4856514201377161336

[hidden seal]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[analog ivy]

die

[sudden grotto]

Pray

[hidden seal]

dont know how to do naval invasion?

[sudden grotto]

Weak
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland

[tiny plank]

We already have vinland via iceland but wanted facist newfoundland to be named vinland

Like proper country

Not iceland cucka

[sudden grotto]

Brits norse wannabe

[flat barn]

hi friends

[eternal palm]

Yea nice civ diff 💀

3 is no wonder if u got 1 flat per day

[normal bloom]

what

please speak human

[eternal palm]

Doesnt seem too bad, you could hold in silesia, just maybe get some war support and stab and increase conscription

[flat barn]

hes saying its because your on civilian difficulty

[eternal palm]

u are playing on civilian difficulty. Which gives u a 50% more pp gain.

[normal bloom]

im playing regulare

[eternal palm]

Then having 3 pp per really isnt an achievement because you're basically cheating

[eternal palm]

the ss says otherwise

[eternal palm]

"Civilian difficulty"

[normal bloom]

for christ sake i set it to normal

[flat barn]

no you didnt lol

[primal timber]

uh oh

[normal bloom]

i did but apparently not

[flat barn]

strangely enough though i got set to civilian difficulty recently

i had to turn it off

things felt too smooth on my poland game

then i realized

when i went to load the save file

[primal timber]

i have some concerns

[ocean finch]

If I were to port 119th Separate Tank Regiment from Warno into hoi4 what would be the template?

[primal timber]

how

where did they even get these icons

oh dear

[silent oxide]

Logi Company, AA company, Signal Company, At least 1 Armoured AA
At least 1 SPG
3 Tanks
2Motorised 2 Mechanized
should about cover it.

[eternal palm]

man hoi4 is awfully unhistorical 💀

[sudden thistle]

The Soviet tanks are meta

Like the SMK

and T-35

Let em cook

[primal timber]

just realized im going down mobile warfare right without any tanks lmao

[eternal palm]

obv the best tank in the game has 4 turrets

and only 3 men in the turret

1 turret is manned by idk, my left foot

[sudden thistle]

So true

[eternal palm]

oh and radio? What for, just add an extra turret

[sudden thistle]

So true

[eternal palm]

The soviets were on to something trust

[sudden thistle]

Who needs communication

[sudden grotto]

Thats a battleship not a tank

[primal timber]

i'll probably fix it after i partition czechoslovakia

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067141275389804588/1343174756991635528/image.png?ex=68c007f9&is=68beb679&hm=0b6449cdbec041e08b5e0c5836cdd661088f2a21d4b3ad36cb9240b1e1ac119a&
peak hoi4 tank design

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067141275389804588/1343174755603185664/image.png?ex=68c007f8&is=68beb678&hm=b1102c492cbf53379865fac1f957f45a2e76714e5f47aa496abd4cbed8186887&

god this looks beautiful

[sudden grotto]

Long Stick ahh model

[eternal palm]

Gotta cope somehow 😭

[sudden thistle]

Saved for later

Omg that barrel is long ur right

[eternal palm]

longer than my- ok I'll stop

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-23501265

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/handofblood-beer-cheers-gif-15920992

[craggy trail]

🐴

[primal timber]

uh oh

[eternal palm]

Holhorse.

[primal timber]

don't ask why hitler's there the monarchist one broke

i see an opportunity

to blow up romania of course

[hidden seal]

is he even alive to say that?

[primal timber]

no lmao

[sudden thistle]

That shell can’t be that heavy bro

U don’t need like 6 people

[paper echo]

does he remind yall of someone

[primal timber]

is that bill nye

[eternal palm]

Thats not a shell 💀

[hidden seal]

i guess it was señor hitler then

[sudden thistle]

What is it then

[eternal palm]

Thats a frigging part of the border checkpoint

Whats it called

the thing that blocks cars from passing

Schranke in german

[sudden thistle]

Why do u need that many people for that floppy thing at the border gate

[eternal palm]

no clue what it is in english

[sudden thistle]

Neither do I

[eternal palm]

its less about the need more about, hey we are taking this checkpoint

[primal timber]

isn't that a barrier

[eternal palm]

barrier is too generalised

Schranke is more specific

Cuz the word Barriere also exists in german

a Schranke is a specific type of barrier

[primal timber]

who's this guy

[eternal palm]

hes pretty good wtf

[hidden seal]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-napoleon-the-best-good-job-fantastic-gif-26235555

[primal timber]

he broke out of the lead coffin and is now marching to vienna again

[hidden seal]

fr 💀

[primal timber]

germany's

struggling

[sudden thistle]

Esports alta

[primal timber]

they just kicked out the british

[charred lake]

Average France Ai gameplay

[primal timber]

now the royal navy is gonna have to blow up wilhemshaven

and

the hell's going on here

does salazar want his iberian union

[charred lake]

What's the map mod

[primal timber]

red dusk

[charred lake]

Oh ok thanks

[primal timber]

im getting mixed signals right now

romania's still guaranteed

yugo isn't however

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-asgore-dess-truck-minecraft-gif-7986950378453691064

[sudden grotto]

How the average TNO enjoyer looks like

[primal timber]

i've had the idea of splitting field/line artillery into howitzers and infantry guns
basically infantry guns trade soft for higher piercing breakthrough and hard
no idea how that would change things but it sounds cool

[primal timber]

fresh out of high school

[sudden grotto]

Bud studied economics from millenium dawn

[primal timber]

"lets raise the business tax and then just build a ridiculous amount of office parks"

[sudden grotto]

proceeds to have 3T€ in debt

[primal timber]

well thats inconvenient

what if i pranked them by manually lowering the tension

because they're non-aligned

unusual request

here we go

they did call in quite late

so theres just a bunch of allied troops on my border

gives me time to finish off bulgaria

pushing into germany now

they're essentially fighting three fronts

france poland and me

im just here for the free factories

[plush drift]

i think i pressed change goverment abit too much...

6 or more russias

[silk walrus]

6 7 more russias?

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/moderators-mods-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-old-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-fancy-gif-17832892536946685423

[fast slate]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

[plush drift]

6

dude this is so crazy 😭 how did i get to this

[zinc rune]

very realistic

[gilded vessel]

naval dockyards? more like lake dockyards

[sudden grotto]

Jokes on you, its in the danube river

[gilded vessel]

i wish

the focus just does nothing

[rare ingot]

Do we have expert with this achivement ?

I restore byzantum empire, and puppet italy,romania and russia, but still didnt get it

[heavy vigil]

are they all the original tags?

[rare ingot]

how do I see this ?

[heavy vigil]

literally look on the map

[rare ingot]

I was the former puppeting nation

[eternal palm]

If they have the focus tree

[rare ingot]

ojh

wait

[heavy vigil]

for ita and russia they might have focus tree but be a dynamic tag

especially italy with their civil war

[brave steeple]

i am confused why this is happening

[icy crescent]

Check the inngame achievement tab.
It usually offers more information.

[heavy vigil]

thats normal

kinda high

generally normal

[brave steeple]

it happened before and didnt get any problems

so i asume its normal

[heavy vigil]

detected errors are good

undetected errors are bad

[rare ingot]

ahhh no way my italy and russian have generic focus...

how this happen, how avoid this

[brave steeple]

its just music so idc

[gilded vessel]

high quality mod so far it has this and 2 focuses that construct dockyards on landlocked states

[heavy vigil]

annex all other states of original nations in the peacedeal for ussr

for italy you have to puppet the original italy

not just regno del sud

[brave steeple]

this is the only thing that broke

[rare ingot]

my russian puppet have 3/4 of all his core

I dont get it, my italy puppet only have rome and another one tho

[heavy vigil]

doesnt matter how much they have

[rare ingot]

So its really 100%

[heavy vigil]

could be 1 state could be 100

[rare ingot]

thats a world conquest..

💀

[heavy vigil]

yeah but you puppeted italy through event

shouldnt have

[rare ingot]

noo war

[heavy vigil]

no?

[rare ingot]

I joint allies and manage to get enough war point to puppet rome

[heavy vigil]

just need for them to not have any remaining states besides what u puppeted in peacedeal

[rare ingot]

I dont understand

because allies/usa will have war point

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[rare ingot]

so its obligatory to beat them too

basically a world conquest

[heavy vigil]

maybe

usually in peacedeal you focus all your points on your objectives

[rare ingot]

unsure how you can get italy and russia without anyone involvement since they go against everyone naturally

[heavy vigil]

and ignore things like in this case taking germany

[rare ingot]

yes it is exactly what ive done

[heavy vigil]

ussr is easy

join alongside axis

fascist nations like to annex

[rare ingot]

but axis will get war point now

[heavy vigil]

annex is good for you so theyre not alive elsewhere

for italy you just also need to get points fighting elsewhere

or lend lease to lower points

of someone else*

[ancient marsh]

thought you meant japan

[rare ingot]

I dont understand anything

[heavy vigil]

no

[rare ingot]

Ok let say im just going to war with the remaining nation with true focus and give it all to my puppet, will it work >

[heavy vigil]

no

it needs to be the original tag

[rare ingot]

I have 2700 hour and donmt understand shit

[heavy vigil]

not a newly created nation

happens lol

[rare ingot]

the little nation in caucas has the right focus lol

[heavy vigil]

yup

[rare ingot]

so I should just conquer it and release it as another puppet ?

[heavy vigil]

you just need to puppet the caucasus one

not that hard

[rare ingot]

ok thx

[heavy vigil]

prob similar story for italy

[rare ingot]

yeah, despite having some missing part to allies, nothing impossible

thx ill try then

crap I have truce with them

[digital otter]

Break it

[rare ingot]

you can ?

[digital otter]

Get - 5 stability and 30 ae >_<

[bronze mango]

Germany annexing vichy france causes a peace out with all the capitilated allied countries meaning my soviet game is pretty much ruined

[rare ingot]

ae ??

[bronze mango]

Dont even know how this works at all but yet it happens

[rare ingot]

ahahahahahaha here we go the stupid world conquest now

britains protecting the remain of italy

man this is cancer

[eternal palm]

Too much eu4 eh?

[eternal palm]

Not a thing in this game

[rare ingot]

guess im going to have to wait another year to pop modern tank in every division I have and space marine the F out of the allies

this is going to end in 1970

[brittle wave]

Is hoi4 part of the political sim sale today

[eternal palm]

Do not make modern tanks

They suck

[rare ingot]

really ?

[eternal palm]

For space marine, just do heavy

[rare ingot]

its 1944

[eternal palm]

Yeah. Can't have extra hmg so less stats than any other chassis

[rare ingot]

I have none research not going to spend another year researching heavy

[eternal palm]

And they're expensive too

[eternal palm]

You only need basic chassis

They change very little

[rare ingot]

hm\

[eternal palm]

Upgrading chassis is dumb

[rare ingot]

reliability and max speed change alot tho

[heavy vigil]

moderns are bad

[eternal palm]

Both are irrelevant

You end up moving at the speed of your inf anyhow

[rare ingot]

how bad in end game

[eternal palm]

And for rel, just don't take attrition

[rare ingot]

I can pop probably a milion

[digital otter]

U can use 38 tank until 1945 if u don't care about armor

[heavy vigil]

worse than advanced heavies by a lot

[rare ingot]

:/

[heavy vigil]

less armor less attack stats

slightly less terrain buffs but those were removed with arms against tyranny

[rare ingot]

I see.. didnt had any anti tank research anyway so heavy tank 1945 world conquest it will be

[digital otter]

Armor is expensive, I prefer 10-dollar tank

[rare ingot]

im not touching greece for 100 year after this

[urban ivy]

just use infantry or special forces bruu

[heavy vigil]

thats ok

do you have AA 3?

you can use heavy cannon 3

[urban ivy]

and make some air

u can easily do a wq with this

[rare ingot]

ah crap its official then

the cancer must go on

uh the show

[rare ingot]

oh yeah AA fully research

use AA on heavy ?

mix with space marines

hm

[heavy vigil]

last AA tech gives you the heavy cannon 3 module

third best gun

[rare ingot]

ohhhhh

at least at that stage is like open sandbox you can do virtually what you want..

[halcyon pasture]

sounds dumb but playing a game where you finish all your focuses and have good research, and then go to war, is hilarious actually
"okay you dumb ai nations had your fun, now its my turn"

[sudden grotto]

88mm flak gun moment

https://tenor.com/view/artur-goszczyk-flak-gif-27388934

[digital otter]

I conquer Italy before invading Poland every time as German

[sudden thistle]

Why

[rare ingot]

OH NO

[digital otter]

Ai Italy is dumb, take its fleet to conquer UK in 1939

[bronze mango]

Beating the allies early is boring

[digital otter]

It's not early

[sudden thistle]

It is early

[digital otter]

1937 is early

[sudden thistle]

Just keep them until 1945 and nuke them into oblivion

More of a challenge when it’s later so it’s more fun

[subtle adder]

@fading torrent elaborate

why you blocked me

idiot

[marsh ravine]

settling beef in hoi4 official 🔥

[bronze mango]

Like beating the allies before the soviets is boring, that's what I mean by early

[marsh ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-mustard-gaster-wd-gaster-undertale-gif-9227269083619736124

[subtle adder]

@fading torrent

guys

ping him

[digital otter]

U can give ai 10 times production and force it to make big tanks, if you for challenge.

[subtle adder]

he banned me for calling him trans

@fading torrent

@fading torrent

[sudden thistle]

No

[sudden thistle]

U should play sheep’s mod

[marsh ravine]

maybe dont call people that?

[subtle adder]

well he is

[digital otter]

tweak some parameters and paste it to every Ai major country

Watch tank wars in german-ussr

[subtle adder]

@lament vessel

[digital otter]

It takes time to debug

[sudden thistle]

It’s only a server bro chill out 💔

[trim pike]

Stop

[subtle adder]

no its only czech server with hoi4

[subtle adder]

unrelated ping

he is friend from same city

[trim pike]

Take ur drama somewhere else

[sudden thistle]

Appeal or something

[marsh ravine]

theres more czech servers

im in them

[sudden thistle]

Or don’t do what u did to begin with

[trim pike]

What..

Why

[fast slate]

r we still doing sheeps mod today

germany 3 way co op

funni moments

[trim pike]

Yall are doing sheep mod ??

[fast slate]

yeah me christi n another friend r doing sheeps mod axis

but like

co op bc its funny

[trim pike]

Ooo

Do I know the third

[sudden thistle]

They are too scared to do as different countries

[trim pike]

lmao

[sudden thistle]

Shyy is too bad at the game

[trim pike]

How good are u at hoi christi

[sudden thistle]

🔥

[sudden thistle]

Great I would say

[fast slate]

@crystal tide

[marsh ravine]

i am friends with the czechs

[fast slate]

christi isnt bad

hes pretty good

[sudden thistle]

Except competitive I’m not going near that

[fast slate]

only need to get better at micro rlly

[marsh ravine]

very good japan

[trim pike]

U three sound like ull win well

[fast slate]

we won as soviets

[trim pike]

3 vs sheep shouldn’t be too hard

[fast slate]

we did that last night

[trim pike]

Nice

[fickle cove]

someone recommend a mod to me and i'll play it

[trim pike]

Sheeps mod

[fast slate]

raptor was the main controller as soviets

did a

really bad buikd

[fickle cove]

just not that pony mod, millennium dawn or tno

[fickle cove]

what is that

[fast slate]

but we microed and saved it

[heavy vigil]

Omg is that chris in chat

[fast slate]

christi joined aswell and became our center

[trim pike]

good ai

[sudden thistle]

Shhhhh

[fast slate]

hello caseyy

[trim pike]

But they dont buff ai

[sudden thistle]

Japan is yearly

[trim pike]

Its just smart

[fickle cove]

i'm already ass at hoi4 so no

[sudden thistle]

Nuh uh

[fast slate]

congrats on ur promotion btw again

[sudden thistle]

I just stole the finish people

[heavy vigil]

omg is that shyy

[fast slate]

u murdered so many finnish

[trim pike]

Tell me how it goes

[marsh ravine]

no its your father

[trim pike]

[fast slate]

im omw to get my inhaler then going out to apple bees with my wife and daughter

[rare ingot]

im getting gang bang so hard by the allies LOL

[fast slate]

allies r scary asf in sheeps mod

insane amount of tanks

the entirety of western france had like 4 tanks per tile of just pure american steel

[rare ingot]

just straight up impossible

[subtle adder]

k bet send

[heavy vigil]

join gorilla smh

or i kill you

[subtle adder]

1984

[sudden thistle]

I didn’t murder them, I steered them into the right direction of our nations eternal glory

[marsh ravine]

nuh uh

[subtle adder]

jj

pošli disc

[sudden grotto]

You made them approach a new form of life fr fr

[sudden thistle]

So true

[brittle wave]

Has the political sim sale started yet? I thought hoi4 would be on it. Google said it was smh

[ebon wolf]

after you win a war against a country, can you puppet it, and then if you want, can you integrate them to not being puppet?

[zinc rune]

I did the impossible

[sudden thistle]

How is that impossible

I did it the other way as Russia but it was easy

[sudden grotto]

Nato new member day*

[solemn rose]

suggest me a fun nation and way to play

[sudden grotto]

Commie hungary

[solemn rose]

i did

i have 3k hours actually

[sudden grotto]

The man in the High Castle germany

[solemn rose]

idk what to do anymore

[solemn rose]

i did

with eva braun too

[sudden grotto]

Wc as bhutan.

[solemn rose]

not fun bro

:/(

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/s1mple-simple-why-you-bully-me-bully-gif-14958986

Do the caliphate Path as Afghanistan

With all cores

[solemn rose]

i did

[sudden grotto]

"owned"

[solemn rose]

got some achievement too

[sudden grotto]

Australian asia

Form polynesia as new zealand

[solemn rose]

hmm

wich mod

[sudden grotto]

Vanilla

[solemn rose]

man vanillia focus trees sucks

let me check rt56

[serene token]

I'm back

I was in College Purgatory.

[sudden grotto]

Hoi4 issue

[zinc rune]

Because russia wins normally 🤦‍♂️

[wide mantle]

I am actually crashing out rn

im tryna do as much achievements as possible but without DLCs its impossible

[sudden grotto]

Because most of them are blocked and you need some focuses to do them

....

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'm-done-gif-13393710533439545132

[wintry current]

Hi guys, I've been waiting with my friend to see a discount on "Political Simulators" HOI4, but I haven't seen it in the discounts. If there are any discounts on the game, it would be sad because I've already spent money on my Steam balance.

[sudden thistle]

Did the sale just start?

I would say wait a bit but it’s too late

If it’s cheap I might buy it for u then and maybe ur freind

[brittle wave]

Yeah I’m trying to get it on the political sale - but I can’t see it. Google said it was and it makes sense because it’s political. Ffs

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[wide mantle]

yeah , i hope all DLCs get added to base game

[wintry current]

Yes

[brittle wave]

Will never happen

[wintry current]

Yes, this is the last time I'm going to spend money on games. I'm saving up for a deposit, and I don't plan to spend much money. Hoyka is the last thing I want to buy. If it doesn't appear tomorrow, I'll wait until the autumn sale with my friend.

[jolly kettle]

Reading the dev corners for the next update and man, smaller countries (and resource devoid ones) are gonna be so much harder

[brittle wave]

Is hoi4 on this political sale

Or is it not

[wintry current]

What game from Paradoxes is currently for sale, why is the game about World War II not considered a political simulator, which is very strange, but the game about capturing the Kremlin is available at a huge discount

[brittle wave]

Bruh

All I want rn it hoi4

And for some stupid reason it’s not on a political sale😂

Practically all of ww2 was involved with politics

[sudden grotto]

Simply impossible, its already too much they added the old ones

Maybe in a decade lol

[sudden thistle]

Idk

Click on paradox interactive

[wintry current]

So, I'm wondering if I should wait for the autumn sales or if I should be patient for a couple of days.

[wintry current]

There is nothing to do except play about Crusader

[warm forum]

wtf is this country?????????

[bronze mango]

Communist version of the CSA formable/ releaseable

[warm forum]

that's interesting

[icy crescent]

Red USA.

[warm forum]

So that's the Confederate States turned Communist

[icy crescent]

Consider getting trains.

[heavy vigil]

Fuel

Not supply

[cold zenith]

mao's red asia

[icy crescent]

Oh whoops.
Then he didn't unlock supply yet.

[zinc rune]

dividing the divisions into armies takes sooo long

[icy crescent]

S is the hotkey for splitting.

Don't select individually.
Unless you didn't universalized your army.

[heavy vigil]

Old version maybe

Actually yeah it is

[brittle wave]

Can it go on sale by itself and not on an official steam sale?

[wintry current]

I don't know, I hope there's a discount on Steam because I put money on Steam, but I don't have enough to buy it.

[brittle wave]

Same I can’t be asked to wait 20 days for autumn

[zinc rune]

it feels like im playing UNO

[thick kettle]

playing as the qing in 1911-1912

the last holdouts are crumbling slowly

[sudden thistle]

Crusader can’t be that bad

[zinc light]

okay wtf

So if the Congolese independence war starts while Belgium is in a faction, you will fight the entire faction...

[zinc light]

all your staff looks german

[gilded vessel]

nice hoi4 just crashed

[warm forum]

i can't wait for the new dlc man

china and japan are so outdated rn

[gilded vessel]

so are many other countries

[solemn rose]

suggest me a fun nation and a way to play please

[warm forum]

yeah, but they're kinda the most relevant from all of i can think

[gilded vessel]

manchuko obedience path

[warm forum]

ww2 technically started in 1931 in manchuria

[gilded vessel]

the us is pretty outdated with the focus tree

[warm forum]

also, ww2 game:

belgium have bigger tree than japan

[bronze mango]

Not quite as bad as japan

[solemn rose]

uhhh

[gilded vessel]

but its still not great

also czechoslovakia

has a outdated focus tree

[warm forum]

i think Japan is the worst one

like, wtf

[gilded vessel]

all the nations around it have gotten new focus trees

[warm forum]

Japan is the second big boss of the Axis Powers

[bronze mango]

Probably going to be the next major dlc

[bronze mango]

Minus Romania

[warm forum]

and their tree has stagnated since ever

[gilded vessel]

i thought romania got one?

[warm forum]

i think i've mentioned already, but i literally learned the basics of the game as communist china and my first big nemesis was japan

so this new dlc is special for me

🥹

china / communist china kinda the best nations for beginners to learn how to defend btw

[gilded vessel]

ive never heard anyone say that

and considering the very low supply and constant naval invasions im not sure if i can agree

[warm forum]

communist china >

[gilded vessel]

You said communist china or china

[warm forum]

i'm saying now that communist china is more beginner friendly

[wintry current]

Well, I don't know, maybe the game is good, but I was really looking forward to the discount on HOI4. My friend and I had an old idea to buy HOI4, and when I saw that there would be discounts on POLITICAL SIMULATOR in August, I was really excited. I was looking forward to it, but unfortunately, I'm still waiting for tomorrow or the end of September.

[gilded vessel]

you start with a small industry and population

[warm forum]

also, focus on the learn

i literally learned how to manage supply as communist china

[rare ingot]

im losing my mind with greece

[neat kayak]

greece is garbage

[rare ingot]

its as toxic as portugal - china achievement

[gilded vessel]

attacking greece or defending it?

[neat kayak]

playing

[rare ingot]

taking italy romania and russia.. literally against the world

achievement

always goes down to usa joining the allies and gang banging all my coast and bomb running me

😭

very rng achivement I guess

[crystal tide]

ugh dont remind me

ts gonna be pain

[gilded vessel]

the turkish focus tree takes years to go down and when youve gotten to all the war goals most of the nations you get war goals on are annexed by the axis already

[rare ingot]

yup turkey too is toxic

got to play 2 hour before to know if its gonna work lol

i need some booze after doing 13 failed run of greece world conquer

[solemn rose]

its realistic

• outdated

[rare ingot]

when next dlc expected you guys think

[gilded vessel]

probably in the 21st century

[rare ingot]

[gilded vessel]

maybe 22nd if we are unlucky

[solemn rose]

spring 2026

[rare ingot]

22 of some month

maybe oct, maybe nov, maybe dec

[gilded vessel]

maybe jan, maybe feb, maybe mar

[rare ingot]

👶

[mellow jetty]

kek

[sharp falcon]

Yummy

[mellow jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/gabbie-gabbietv-twitchstreamer-streamer-twitch-gif-22276612

[fast slate]

have fun being main controller

ur build fr

[dusky burrow]

Funny that Missouri is just a random free area in the middle of all of this

[soft yacht]

Does anyone know any good alt history mods?

[fierce mist]

🇸🇪 Sweden mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/lily-james-lily-james-sweden-lily-james-swedish-gif-12213630

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314432842356228115/1393411986959630397/rfk_jr_declares_war.gif

where do i find the mod for this event

which is totally real

and not fake

[sudden thistle]

have fun

[mellow jetty]

Yea, hitler wouldn't let me havr more, and he didnt mind a roosevelt sanctuary in the middle. Played Historical Singleplayer normal lol

42% WP score

Sweden inflicted 3.0M deaths

[flint wyvern]

6 7

[dusky burrow]

Oh oof

[dusky burrow]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was in a mod somewhere, the giveaway is the font

[brave steeple]

i assumed it was fake since... yk the front looks off

[mellow jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mommas-house-malcolm-turner-big-momma-some-people-just-ruin-it-for-everybody-some-people-ruin-the-fun-gif-22721233

[frosty solstice]

awesome name

when puppeting azerbaijan as germany this happened

[dusky burrow]

Yep

[frosty solstice]

this is how europe looks post war in 1943

knocked france in 1939, britain in 1940, ussr recently, usa is also dead i got them a year ago

germany is way too op

and im at war with japan because they declared war on my malay puppet

nice

[leaden niche]

ligma map 💔

[frosty solstice]

dude it looks nice

most of them are my puppets

[sudden thistle]

anyone have steel

[frosty solstice]

i think i have some leftover

not sure tho

stolen navy from ussr, england, france, usa

[dusky burrow]

Not the worst

But gah, lategame you never have enough steel

5 steel for 1 dockyard, 4 steel for one gun factory, it's a headache

[pale stream]

mmm scrap metal

tbh they should add a feature where scrapping ships gives you temporary resources and that thing you get from selling stuff

[dusky burrow]

True

[soft yacht]

is this a good divsion guys

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[dry kayak]

launching a su*cide run with italy for the 6176854354 yi

time

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

Why is it so expensive though

[soft yacht]

not sure

im in 1936 probably why

no tech yet

[dry kayak]

give better support adds later and keep the divisions a specific role like inf+arty or mechanized kind of division

[soft yacht]

hm ok

thanks

[dry kayak]

btw on ytb there are plenty of videos

[sudden grotto]

Now rename every single ship to a german name

[dusky burrow]

Straßburg

[sudden grotto]

KMS Führer

Thats the parody of the SMS Kaiser

Now every ship has a random Village name

[broken sky]

Fire

[random snow]

update on the baltic front in my botched run i have full fighter squadrons with an ace on each

still getting slammed

[lapis snow]

I fixed your save already though
#hoi4-general message

[broken sky]

The soviets got the shorter end of the stick tho

[misty fossil]

i should try this one day but i dont know how to

[random snow]

pov:steiner counterattacked

[shut gazelle]

soviet union is way too OP, if you know how to play it ofc

[frosty solstice]

Yeah that too

Many nations are good if you know how to play them

[broken sky]

500+ armies with 50+ tank divisions is insane bruh

[shut gazelle]

the strat for me is when I play with friends

I invade norway

then sweden

then forget abt it

then develop everything mid and eastern of my country

burn down the west

[bronze mango]

Soviets can beat Germany by 43

[shut gazelle]

hold behind rviir

river

and then take germany from the crossing at sweden-denmark

[broken sky]

42 if you can micro pretty well

[shut gazelle]

true

[broken sky]

Germany tends to NOT defend their northern flank by the start of Barbarossa

[shut gazelle]

but in mp holding line is more fun

[drifting kiln]

bro u dont need to fall back its not that hard

[broken sky]

I usually just push through and destroy their supply hubs before they can regroup

[bronze mango]

True, but if you want the most, such as securing france, taking your time helps

[broken sky]

Well, unless you're in hist multiplayer, then you're gonna have a shit time with rules

[lapis snow]

there is absolutely no need to concede a single state. You can hold the border

[shut gazelle]

scorth earth the whole west🔥

[shut gazelle]

the german tanks punch through

[broken sky]

Build tank divisions

They never break through my Polish Eastern borders

[bronze mango]

Usually I never do

[lapis snow]

maybe a tile or two, but they can be stopped even without AT or air supremacy

[bronze mango]

With just infantry and air

(Only 120 infantry divisions required)

[drifting kiln]

air is for people who are bad at the game

only infantry and sometimes tanks

[broken sky]

This is how my Soviet frontline usually looks like

[shut gazelle]

infantry only🔥

[broken sky]

(With fewer divisions in this particular run)

[bronze mango]

Ten tanks max in any playthrough of mine

[drifting kiln]

as germany its good to have alot but soviets dont really matter

inf manpower and alot of industyr

[fickle cove]

"because tonight will be the night that i will fall for you" ahh name

[bronze mango]

It most certainly isn't for people that are bad at the game, they can't design air

[broken sky]

Errr depends, really

[drifting kiln]

what? u can just autodesign it

[broken sky]

Soviet air is usually for pure infantry + mass assault combination

[drifting kiln]

or search a template up

[broken sky]

But yeah, as Soviets, you can choose not to produce air if you want

And just shit out a ton of AA

[serene token]

Doom

[shut gazelle]

I do that most of the time

[bronze mango]

Autodesign? You mean the shitty pre made templates?

[bronze mango]

Mass assault is mid

[dusky burrow]

Well eventually they'd run out of planes

Make sure to hold

Maybe get some AA divisions as well

[drifting kiln]

well yeah if you somehow cant click a few buttons to design your own

[broken sky]

Not for my minor countries, no😎

[bronze mango]

Depends on the minor really

Also superior firepower is always better no matter the situation

[serene token]

Anyways

[broken sky]

GBP

[dusky burrow]

5% recruitable pop is hard to come by

[shut gazelle]

does anyone know how I can keep my infantry equipment in the positive, cuz when the germans invaded I had +10k, and at the end I had -120k, (120+ mils on guns max eff, 2000+ guns a day)

[broken sky]

the planning is superior than ever

[dusky burrow]

GBP

[broken sky]

even for tanks

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/face-melting-indiana-jones-fire-transforming-gif-12010697

bad troll

[dusky burrow]

Which country

[shut gazelle]

(I may have had over 700 divisions)

[dusky burrow]

Also make sure you have resources

[drifting kiln]

bro how are u using that much guns by defending??

[broken sky]

GBP superiority is so overwhelming its not funny

[shut gazelle]

soviets

[bronze mango]

I am surprised by the amount of superior firepower hate on this server really

[drifting kiln]

probably soviet

[shut gazelle]

I deff have the steel

[broken sky]

A WW1 tactic is better than a modernized WW2 operational art

[bronze mango]

Its the only place where people seem to dislike it

[broken sky]

[broken sky]

?

Overkill

Max is 500

Any more than that and you're just throwing supply problems

[bronze mango]

It really is peak

[dusky burrow]

Max is 500 infantry + 50 meta heavy tank divisions

So I doubt it is supply issues

[shut gazelle]

nah I was attacking with 400 and hold with another 400

most of them were only 3x3 infantry

[broken sky]

I used to love Superior Firepower so much

[dusky burrow]

If you're going for an infantry build with 800 infantry you might want to spend something on air

[broken sky]

Then I caved in and tried GBP

It turned into a click and play game afterwards

[dusky burrow]

And use CAS and fighters strategically to get an edge over the enemy

[lapis snow]

This place strongly promotes meta strats over "XYZ works" advice

[idle berry]

What’s the best nation for heavy tanks?? (Based on MIO’s and like focus tree bonuses)

[lapis snow]

SFP is not a good doctrine for most use-cases

[broken sky]

honestly this game runs with modifiers as much as it does with raw stats

[bronze mango]

Ah right, I absolutely hate meta

[dusky burrow]

BTW guys there's a discord outage rn

[modest orchid]

The server back

[broken sky]

That's... what I said, but yes

[limpid field]

What happened

[broken sky]

Soviets

Soviets.

Soviet MIOs are insane.

So is Germany

👍

[honest night]

Germany and France

[neat kayak]

bro the ai is just stupid

i stoled all the US divs and the japanese ain't invading me

i hate the ai

[honest night]

Try Sheep ai mod if you want better ai

[drifting kiln]

i mean ive never heard of this strategy but if it works it works

[clear dagger]

ive also heard of expert ai

whats the difference of those 2 exactly?

[honest night]

I tried expert ai before but had performance issues not 100% sure but from what I’ve heard sheep ai seems more modern and better

I think expert ai also has more options

But sheep’s really simple to use

[gilded cobalt]

Oh nice the server is back

I thought I got banned lol

[honest night]

That happened for all of you?

I thought that was just me lol

[rustic furnace]

Yay its back

[bronze mango]

Oh so it wasn't just me?

[gilded cobalt]

No

[bronze mango]

Same at first

[mellow parrot]

Seemed like an outage

[glass crescent]

Should I get by blood alone?

I'm debating

I already have no step back

[shut gazelle]

I was playing against my friend, pushed with 270 divisions from south east, held the line at the north east with 250 and 150 4 tiles behind that and pushed with another 140 ish in from denmark to berlin

[merry talon]

after days of giving up and trying over and over again i finally got my hoi4 to run on linux right without the map being colorless or C++ error

[glass crescent]

Congrats

[brittle wave]

Bro my laptop spazed out and went crazy then my discord crashed

[neat kayak]

Did the server just fell for a moment?

[paper echo]

a lot of servers did

[remote quarry]

if you battleplanned too hard

[neat kayak]

Damn

[remote quarry]

just stop when your stockpile turns red

[neat kayak]

Discord is falling

[remote quarry]

also if you want to battleplan against a player it's very good to have large divisions(like 35.2 width)

you lose significantly less guns

[paper echo]

if you battleplan a lot then you lose tons of equipment

[shut gazelle]

alr thank you

[remote quarry]

and before the war just stop deploying stuff

you can keep like a 50k surplus in stockpile

having divisions in the field running low on strength is very very bad

[bronze mango]

The discord has fallen, billions must touch grass

[glass crescent]

I'm always in light tank deficit because of how many I spam in emergency wave of defence

[mossy escarp]

What happened to the discord ?

[glass crescent]

Because playing Sweden and invading Finland almost always ends with the ussr attacking

[glass crescent]

Idk

[kind vale]

How to make good ships fast as germany

[undone vale]

was this the correct thingy for custom leaders

[sudden grotto]

it was. quite something

Gotta go for usa now 💔 and they have like 500+ divs

[strong stream]

i love non historical

[dusky burrow]

I mean you have 900+ factories

You outclass the US

[dusky burrow]

Typical

[sudden grotto]

Still 1949

Meh, Imma nuke all ports before landing

[left sigil]

yo so how do i beat the united states and the uk's navy

[left sigil]

yo is this bad

[sharp falcon]

Undoubtedly

[left sigil]

is the english channel not the way to go

[azure crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-dance-pretty-girls-gif-8089757801660073284

[lone sail]

Is there a mod that adds the tno voicelines to vanilla

[left sigil]

is there a mod that puts you in a real life ww2 simulation

[lone sail]

Like with the radio

[woven dragon]

On a scale of 1-10 how cooked am I currently

[rough pond]

8

still savable

maybe

[woven dragon]

I just killed Poland and retook Böhem-Mähren

[sharp falcon]

17

(soviets are 100% deccing on romania)

[sudden falcon]

should i declare war on the breakaway states as the romanovs?

[kind vale]

Should I make bombers as germany?

[sudden falcon]

during hte civil war

[sudden falcon]

cas yes bombers no

[kind vale]

But I wanna bomb the British anti air

[sudden falcon]

british have like lvl 5 aa in some states

your bombers WILL get destroyed

[kind vale]

Actually the dont really get destroyed with the template I use

[sudden falcon]

i dont think you know how aa works

[kind vale]

No i do

I already bombed the British using the template

Didn't lose that many planes

[sudden falcon]

which states

[edgy ridge]

what are you trying to achieve with that?

[kind vale]

Air superiority

[edgy ridge]

do you want to bomb anything else aside of that?

[kind vale]

Yeah

I bomb the important stuff

[edgy ridge]

it probably isn't worth it as ai can't really dday so after kicking the allies out of mainland europe there isn't much point but it can work if you wanna larp

[kind vale]

I just wanna be able to have my planes over the uk without the threat of em being shot down by aa and with the bombers I use they dont really die that fast it makes beating the ai easier for me

[edgy ridge]

state aa doesn't really affect fighters

[sudden falcon]

oh my god i thought this said zhukov

[kind vale]

It affects my cas though😭

[edgy ridge]

also assuming you wanna project air over the uk you probably want to sealion? you will bomb stuff you need to repair later

[edgy ridge]

it doesn't

[sudden falcon]

it does

[kind vale]

Dont really care about the repairs

[wraith mauve]

Whats Jonathan’s YouTube channel called?

[dusky burrow]

j0nathan800, same as in this discord

[wraith mauve]

I need to learn single player meta infantry template

Ty

[edgy ridge]

wiki only mentions strat bombing, port striking and air supply

[kind vale]

Whats the cheapest capital ship i can make for naval supremacy?

[dusky burrow]

Just use 6-9 infantry + AA + maybe support artillery

[frank acorn]

I united mandalore with the weakest nation 😭

[kind vale]

Is 4 naval bombers a day enough or do I need more?