hoi4-general

[cold wedge]

Slow PCs exist

Mine isn't slow

[marsh ravine]

6h is lucky

[cold wedge]

But my laptop was very slow

[lethal ether]

you play full speed and pause when you need to do something

[marsh ravine]

R u just constant 5speeding?

[west flicker]

oh i was referring to mp

[lethal ether]

yes\

[lethal ether]

ah

[cold wedge]

No one plays this game at full speed

[worn coral]

if it was pure steel it would need to be 1m against kinetic and 1.6m against chemical shots

[cold wedge]

Except when you have to wait

[marsh ravine]

I get like 6h to 43 or 44 when I'm 5speed 99% of game

[lethal ether]

so you just wait 30 minutes per focus?

[west flicker]

i will try, just dont know how to push through france
about to see allies place all their troops on belgium again

[marsh ravine]

Its not 30 mins😭

[cold wedge]

No, but if you're at war you never put it to 5 speed

[opal citrus]

i cant save myself

ts is impossible

[cold wedge]

Send me save and watch me save

[lethal ether]

if you micro

if you dont micro it doesnt matter

[cold wedge]

It does

[opal citrus]

have fun with ts 💔

[silent scroll]

😭

[marsh ravine]

Not rly if you do a good build, but big emphasis on "if"

[lethal ether]

so what u just play on 3 speed thje whole time

[robust violet]

as intended

[cold wedge]

Because if the enemy breaks through and you have it at full speed, for me the enemy would encircled everything because my game runs very fast at 5 speed

[worn coral]

i found out why

[west flicker]

that's crazy

[marsh ravine]

Id guess most people do 5speed till war then 3speed or something?

[marsh ravine]

Frontline?

[west flicker]

naval invasion:

[marsh ravine]

Ur frontline shouldn't be getting broken

[marsh ravine]

Have garrisons.

[cold wedge]

I saw

[opal nymph]

5 speed all the time, just pause to micro

[west flicker]

i garrison and they still invade 😭

[lethal ether]

^^^

[marsh ravine]

Fair

[cold wedge]

It's night time for me I won't do it now

[opal nymph]

unless MP I guess

[opal citrus]

ok

[marsh ravine]

R u losing the battles?

[west flicker]

all of them yes

[marsh ravine]

Well 5speed in mp is just not possible lmao so u r forced 4speed unless mp.mod changes it😭

[west flicker]

maybe i should place something other than cavalry as my area defense troop...

[lethal ether]

ive never seen ai naval invade any other country than italy

naval

[west flicker]

uk and france

[lethal ether]

invade

[marsh ravine]

What width

[marsh ravine]

???

Dday

Barb

All of asia

Cos japan

[west flicker]

8 kekw

[marsh ravine]

Thats why lmao

Way too small

[lethal ether]

ive never seen ai do it

without mods

[marsh ravine]

Make actual garrisons

[lethal ether]

in my games

[marsh ravine]

Ive seen the ai land plenty of times

They r just bad at holding the landing imo

[lethal ether]

i havent

they always flood hundreds of divisions through italyt

[marsh ravine]

I mean what countries r u playinf

[marsh ravine]

If theres maybe an actual dday garrison could be why

[lapis snow]

@random snow why the hell have you not done WWII?
its 1949 and you never invaded poland or fought the allies?
You've gone up to scraping the barrel before even mobilising to service by requirement fully?
There's a lot wrong here

[lethal ether]

i dont garrison my coast when playing singleplayer

the ai just doesnt naval invade me

[marsh ravine]

Bruh

I mean same here

But thats cos all my games end in 41

[zinc light]

this fr. and even if they do, it's basically a free encirclement

[lethal ether]

yea

[marsh ravine]

If i am a major/axis minor

I play some crappy allied minor/even worse axis minor i see invasions and shit

[spare quiver]

the game is too easy. Tried Bice. Still too easy

[zinc light]

whats bice

[lethal ether]

i dont understand bice

[lethal ether]

black ice

[marsh ravine]

Sheep mod?

Idk

[lethal ether]

black ice

[zinc light]

ah

[marsh ravine]

If u r rly good then u still beat it ofc

But its fun

[spare quiver]

you have to have a degree in uber autism to get bice

[lethal ether]

its just like

i dont understand it

too many features

too many buttons

[spare quiver]

its just extra economic micro tbh

base game is purely war strat

[lethal ether]

i think the most i managed to do was conquer france

(i played germany)

[zinc light]

ye, its in its essence a war sim. anything you do preps you for it

[lethal ether]

and that took me a while

[spare quiver]

try a japan playthrough

[lethal ether]

navy

[spare quiver]

really sells the idea as to why they stuggled so hard irl

[lethal ether]

cuz they had to navy irl

duh

[opal nymph]

I know

[icy crescent]

CHAT.

Please name a random nation with more than one state.

[zinc light]

huh

I dont understand the question

ah

well... most of em?

[icy crescent]

Bro.

[ripe slate]

Indonesia

[zinc light]

British Burma

[lethal ether]

luxembourg

[zinc light]

Aussa

[icy crescent]

Luxembourg only has one state.
Aussa too.

STATE not tiles.

[ripe slate]

^^

[zinc light]

I know, it was a joke

while we're at it, Yemen

Nicaragua

[icy crescent]

Still joking? 👀

[sudden thistle]

guhj

[zinc light]

yeh

[icy crescent]

You funi.

[lethal ether]

someone should make a focus tree that goes up instead of down

[zinc light]

nah me duni

[brittle cypress]

banned for this honestly

[icy crescent]

You mean Vichy France tree?
You reach the end to start at the top again?

[lethal ether]

no like

you start from the end and go up to the top

[icy crescent]

Nay. :<

[zinc light]

Germay civil war is the end for fascist germany and the start of something else

so in a sense

[solemn rose]

when new dlc

[burnt patrol]

My new into

Oh and plz sub

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/n4KOSqYsNMQ

[split bane]

Yeah the idea was for when the German invasion happened there would be a civil war where the Fascists take Oslo and the loyal government keeps the rest
But Paradox got rid of it
But it looks like they never changed the filter

[safe wing]

litterally unplayable

[deft agate]

Guys theres some Yellow Blob in South Netherlands Called Belgium when will Paradox fix this

[zinc light]

nah fam that's West Luxembourg

[exotic bough]

@karmic dragon

[serene token]

Just go a private server and spawn in 10+ crawlers, make sure they don't grab you.

[burnt patrol]

I know

I’m kind just dumb tbh

[rare ingot]

Achivement didnt work 🙁

I have to take tokyo for my puppet ?

[dusky burrow]

Lmao just found this 2-year-old template on the Reddit (this is why 9/1 does not work)

[dusky burrow]

Which achievement

[drifting kiln]

its because of the german norwegen government i think

[plucky girder]

caramel vassen or whatever

[errant remnant]

Can somebody explain naval invasions to me please.. I’m going brain dead on trying to get them to work

[plucky girder]

go to research, ship modules and make sure to have thr naval invasion thing researched

[dusky burrow]

Oh that one... ouch you have to puppet every Japanese province to prevent a Japan that isn't your puppet from spawning

[plucky girder]

then plan them with your general and click on your ships, set them to naval landing or whatever its called

if they don't automatically come to where you need, just manually click on them and right click on where you want

[errant remnant]

Tysm

[plucky girder]

to manually move them you have to not have any mission enabled (just click on the anchor button, click on the ships move them to where you want and then click the naval invasion thingy

[plucky girder]

np broski

[rare ingot]

puppet japan as swedish

I did puppet it but I didnt had enough war point to get tokyo as puppet

[plucky girder]

you could use the non historical mode if you think it'd too hard

[dusky burrow]

You need all of Japan

Or rather you can't let there be another Japan

[split bane]

You have to puppet the "main" Japan
Basically the one that doesn't have a generic leader for the Democratic party and is also the same colour as Japan normally is

[warped flint]

How do I push through the maginot

[serene token]

Go around.

[warped flint]

I don't want to declare on belgium

they are guranteed by the brits

[serene token]

Are the Brits in the war?

[dusky burrow]

I refer you to this comment I made a while ago https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1n4czlv/comment/nbmaiap/?context=3

TL;DR Engineers 1939, Flame Tank + Military Engineering Vehicles + Super-Heavy Railway gun special techs

[warped flint]

Nope

[warped flint]

Lmeme see

[dusky burrow]

Ample CAS support also helps

[warped flint]

I will try to get air

only issue is its only 1937

[dusky burrow]

BTW Reddit 9/1 bad, like seriously stop recommending it

[warped flint]

Would a naval invasion work?

[dusky burrow]

Do you have naval supremacy? If so yes

Honestly best way to kill France early is paradrop

[warped flint]

I should be able to get it, i have obviously, the german fleet, Dutch, and Polish

So i think i should be good

[dusky burrow]

Also you don't need so many units in a naval invasion, 3 per tile is about the maximum useful amount

[warped flint]

Having a lil more issues then expected

[dusky burrow]

Surround Cherbourg while pinning Maginot

This is fine I believe

[warped flint]

Getting reinforcements in, got Cherbourg

Got encircled sadly. but only 1 unit

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[warped flint]

France is reacting

units are about to arrive tho

Alright new issue

supply

[lapis snow]

@random snow

[warped flint]

DAMN IT

FRANCE JOINED THE ALLIES

[jolly kettle]

What happened here?????

[lapis snow]

disaster save

[warped flint]

Why is my name in poland

lol

[dusky burrow]

Idk, but maybe opening up Brest would help

[terse ether]

u forgor luxembourg

[warped flint]

Got em already

[terse ether]

taking czech would help with the name

[warped flint]

I did do that, and it didn't do very much i think

its in france now

[dusky burrow]

Oh you won?

Nice

[warped flint]

I had to go through Belgium

[radiant hawk]

It’s because you don’t own the Czechs

[warped flint]

the french joined the allies

[terse ether]

that sealion plan is NOT gonna work btw

[warped flint]

Works whenever i do it

[terse ether]

sometimes you may get lucky and uk forgets to defend the island

[woven dragon]

I have a question. I am playing Germany and going to take out the Dutch in ‘37 for their resources. If I take the East Indies Will Japan declare on me when they do that focus to declare war on The East Indies and Burma???

[warped flint]

Bear in mind this is 1937 and not 1939-1940

[warped flint]

Pretty sure yeah

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you have time to build up with France's resources

[woven dragon]

That is stupid

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[warped flint]

No ones home

[dusky burrow]

So much the better, since you probably took the UK by then and then the US joins the Axis instead

[dusky burrow]

See what I mean

[dusky burrow]

Just beware convoy raiding

[warped flint]

Air supremacy won't be a issue

i got infinite rubber from my puppet

[kind vale]

There's a gambling mod????

[warped flint]

Yk this is very peacefull, compared to my normal runs where the uk pulls units from no where.

Holy crap italy was greedy asf

HOW DID THEY MANAGE TO GET THIS MUCH

I DID EVERYTHING

I TOOK FRANCE, BELGIUM. THE UK

AND WHAT DID THEY DO?

LOSE TO THE UK IN AFRICA?

PROBABLY I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION

[kind vale]

What are these mods im finding

😭😭😭

[warped flint]

I think cause its so early on the us should be realy weak

Wait

i did all of that while not being on war eco

lmao

[dusky burrow]

LMAO

[sudden grotto]

noice (4 carriers got meme killed by cas)

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/italia-mattarella-patriota-patriottico-buona-notte-in-italiano-gif-511964112661538339

[rare ingot]

how you do that ?

puppetting japan was the literal first thing I did, but just had 7% war point, only thing I see is I should have gotten more point to take tokyo

[split bane]

Yeah no clue
Most of the time its 50/50

[heavy vigil]

Big

[dusky burrow]

Doesn't matter who's better, only matters who's left

[placid sleet]

we are in the endgame

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldiverstm-2-helldivers-2-2-helldiver-gif-15321397921573995264

[dusky burrow]

Wow, uh, how's your production lines looking

You have 537 factories but the US probably has 2000+ and all the world's resources

[soft yacht]

bro what do i even caption this

[soft yacht]

such a random interaction

[dusky burrow]

Wait this is modded

[placid sleet]

i have a tech tree mod

[dusky burrow]

At this rate however you're going to integer overflow your assault rifles

[placid sleet]

adds tech to the 90s

[dusky burrow]

Tbh IDK how to help here, but you could make planes and tanks

You have a lot of excess capacity

[placid sleet]

i think i'm just gonna call it

i could've won 40 years ago

why bother now?

[dusky burrow]

Fair

One of the joys of HOI4 is just watcihing the time pass by

[placid sleet]

and watching the casualties tick up

hundreds of millions of people have died now

and most of the world's countries, before falling to the US, got no country for old men

[prisma ermine]

kaiserredux manice

it cores every state in the game

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[heavy vigil]

Hi liv

I see u in sheeps smh

[prisma ermine]

and the starting nation is tibet

[bronze mango]

Cause of course that's a thing

[dusky burrow]

Oh hi Casey

I thought I did something to upset you

[prisma ermine]

so in conclusion acient greeks were communists

[soft yacht]

guys do synthetic refinerys make oil

[prisma ermine]

they do

[prisma ermine]

just put the croser and it will show the stats of the building

[clear dagger]

hyper ebola?

[prisma ermine]

si mio amore

[soft yacht]

ts will only ever happen in road to 56

what are these factions bro

[soft yacht]

Ok

thanks

the map mode carries my photo so much its beautiful

[mild hazel]

I love when the wiki is so confidently wrong

[heavy vigil]

About what

[mild hazel]

I got ragebaited by the wiki so hard im editing a page as we speak

[heavy vigil]

What did it say

[mild hazel]

Nah it was yapping about how you need poland for the Soviet Onion achievement when you just dont😭

[heavy vigil]

Just need to be surrounded by puppets

[mild hazel]

no border is shared at all when you release the SSR's

[dusky burrow]

One of the strangest errors on the wiki is that they claim Engineers (just normal engineers, not pioneers) give 25% bonus to amphibious invasions when it is 15%

And I can't edit that because I tried to put actually accurate terrain information about elephants and they edit blocked my IP

[mild hazel]

Wiki editors are a different breed i swear

Wiki conservatives rather

The whole point is community driven edits. Blocking an IP for not following what one guy and only one guy wants is crazy

ill see how long my soviet onion edit lasts

[dusky burrow]

I think I got automatically flagged for something

IDK

[frosty warren]

how fair is this

[sharp sierra]

no one knows

[dusky burrow]

Good luck, maybe you can kick them from Ohio?

[warped flint]

I will begin barb soon

i took out the americans

[dusky burrow]

Woah

[inner ocean]

after all said and done

A red world

Market Socialism wins the 21st century

[serene token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/yn5EngWQ2QY?si=VnnUI2E0IEjkkABY

[warped flint]

Rate my encirclement

[edgy elm]

classic

bro soviet AI IS BUNS

sending everything norht

and letting axis minors get ws

😭

[dusky burrow]

Yeah Soviet AI defends Leningrad really hard

Seems like your tanks are winning in order though

Just pin all those Soviet reinforcements so that they don't help

[edgy elm]

will do

prolly shouldn't have halftrack in here

[dusky burrow]

Is that... artillery?

[dusky burrow]

Mechanized is fine in marine divisions, artillery is lackluster at best

The thing is that for org * soft attack at a particular combat width, representing the amount of damage one division can do in a given fight, artillery only increases that value by around... 5%. Yeah

For marines, this becomes... 2%

Using 1939 tech btw

[heavy vigil]

thats an 🤨 moment right there

[edgy elm]

yh it melts soviet infantry in 2-1s

[dusky burrow]

I was just about to say "the reason why mech is in that division"... but tbh I don't fully know, I assume it is for the breakthrough, a bit of hard attack, and a bit of armor

It's also fine just to have 4 mechanized and 8 marines because you can't get positive amphibious attack bonuses, only enough to offset a 50% debuff

[dusky burrow]

And with flame tanks and pioneers, you just hit 50

(a meta template is 13/4/1, 1 being anti-tank, plus armored recon and this time assault engineers. With pioneers you hit 60)

[edgy elm]

ive never seen this before

[edgy elm]

im not ready to become liberal

[dusky burrow]

Oof the US is in a world of hurt

[edgy elm]

i can destory their navy since i have the french, japanese and the british navy

[silk gust]

do you guys have any tips for germany

[edgy elm]

uhh

priotise air to so sealion

that's all

[silk gust]

ok thanks

[edgy elm]

👍

[edgy elm]

make beef cas

don't believe this is the best 1940 cas for sealion

[dusky burrow]

Eh, it's cheap cas but it's dubious cas

550 km range is a bit short for cross-channel operations

In addition, you could stick in another bomb lock, so something like this can work for Sealion CAS

[edgy elm]

yh it to make it cheaper

[dusky burrow]

You can also get improved airframes if it is 1940

[edgy elm]

yk

so i can get that sweet 1500

[edgy elm]

needed numbers

since my forcus on fighter

ww2 is finally ove

r

[dusky burrow]

I mean, for less than 33% more ic you can have a plane like this, and this plane has almost triple the attack plus has more targeting for striking the Royal Navy in the Channel

It's not just about total number of planes, it's about cost-effectiveness too

[edgy elm]

i'll send my fighter template jn

fighting italy for land

[neat tendon]

Can someone come into my dms to actually help me learn this game

I will try learn tomorrow

Oh mb wrong channel

[dusky burrow]

That's it I'm applying to be a mod

[edgy elm]

fighter

[dusky burrow]

Also assign your MIOs

But you could get some extra range

[edgy elm]

i have no real threat anymore

:sad:

gotta slime italy for 1 island

[heavy vigil]

dont spam invites in general chat, #1239926537512292362 exists for this

[serene token]

What's up

[haughty gulch]

i thought i can steal equipment by disbanding troops that are send to me as expedition 😭

[serene token]

Is this a good tank template for early game?

[edgy elm]

no good sir

[serene token]

What should be changed?

[serene token]

Doesn't that involve dlc?

[edgy elm]

nope

year?

if it's pre 40

[serene token]

1937

[edgy elm]

hmm

[serene token]

I don't have much exp rn.

I'm just forming a basis rn.

[serene token]

This is Furereich btw.

[edgy elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935989994735169546/1261459349327315025/resize-1.gif

[sudden thistle]

Bro what is this

[edgy elm]

cheap tanks

those are my 1939 tanks

[sudden thistle]

💔

I fw with it

[serene token]

I also got Mexico to submit to me.

[edgy elm]

oh yh

[edgy elm]

so tuff

[edgy elm]

favourable trades?

[dusky burrow]

Hmmmm

[dusky burrow]

I'd actually do something more like this (I know motorized bad, but if you only have 55 xp it is worth it)

(it's saying 11 because I'm in Sheep's mod, multiply that by 5 for vanilla)

[heavy vigil]

55 xp is half a doctrine...

And you should have proper heritage..

[edgy elm]

36 tank

wowza

[serene token]

Y'all played Ghost of Tsushima?

[dusky burrow]

True, however this is from the starting 9-motorized template for xp savings

Unfortunately you can't proper heritage your way out of adding 8 tanks + support AA

So that's at least 50 xp

[heavy vigil]

You can on mw

You get the tank thingy

[dusky burrow]

ok fair

of course that envisages you go down mw

[heavy vigil]

its a doctrine

[serene token]

Is Extensive Conscription the best Conscription Law to do?

[heavy vigil]

People use it

[heavy vigil]

Limited is best because no debuffs

[serene token]

Okay, so I'll stick with Limited then.

[heavy vigil]

Training time affects how quickly your units get veterancy

[dusky burrow]

You've reduced the cost from 50 to 45 (since you need to change officer spirits to take advantage of that)

[heavy vigil]

But regardless

Just go up when you need more

That goes for any law

[serene token]

I have Almost 2 million manpower, so I think I'm good.

[edgy elm]

ww3 ig

[serene token]

Wow

[dusky burrow]

Lmao China siding with the Reich against the US

[hoary mortar]

Wild lmao

love hoi4 shenanigans

now gn!

[kind vale]

Im gonna get japan into the axis in my game

[opal nymph]

They better support Kadoha then

[kind vale]

🤔🤔🤔🤔

Historical

[opal nymph]

Well

They will make GEACPS then

Best you can do is mutual guarantees and non aggression pact

[clear dagger]

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
- Charles de Gaulle

[craggy trail]

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356061197052674178/1414196449545027674/image0.gif

[misty fossil]

proper heritage my beloved

raah what is a level 1 general

[heavy vigil]

?

Ohh

The 10% gain

I forgot

[misty fossil]

lol

[warped flint]

Blitzing through Japans occupied Chinese territories rn

only issue is my supply is ass

[warped flint]

💔

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-pinkie-pie-fluttershy-pat-gif-27067962

I'm sure your supply will be a bit better with enough railroad tinkering

[warped flint]

Never

i want my men to suffer

[gusty oracle]

does anyone know how to do this

[warped flint]

I am starving the japanese in China

[warped flint]

Alrigh ti am done with this run

i am not going through this again

[trim pike]

Yes

Do u have a graphic display calculator

[west flicker]

plug into a matrix
rref your matrix
profit

[gusty oracle]

nah I have desmos.com

[gusty oracle]

ok

@west flicker @trim pike I need more help

what equation type do I need to make

[west flicker]

any quadratic equation can be written as follows:
ax^2 + bx + c = d

[gusty oracle]

I might just genuinely be a dumbass

[gusty oracle]

ok

[west flicker]

so just do that for every point, then solve the system of equations

[gusty oracle]

can I just use a matrix for this

[west flicker]

yes

you should only need to do 3 of 4, @trim pike can fact check for me, i can't remember how to uniquely classify quadratics

[marble igloo]

Could be worse. You could be playing Hungary in a non-historical game, go for Austria-Hungary, end up at war with 4 different factions scattered across the world, slowly grind your way up to your formable after annexing your regno del sud puppet, still have to build a navy to even try to get rid of any single one of the factions because one of the has the USA, one has Britain, and one has Japan, and you're kind of just stuck controlling almost everything from a border with russia, belarus, and ukraine down to the gibraltar straight, and partway into turkey. And then you just wonder why you even decided to do another casual Hungary game in hoi4

Sure, i can conquer all of turkey, the middle east, africa, russia, and china, but that still won't get me across the english channel, atlantic ocean, or sea of japan........

Last but not least i'm already into the late 1940s and the game is just slug speed even on 5x

At least i won the air battle(kind of) and land battle even without tanks. Most of the NPC nations burnt out against each other.

[marble igloo]

State of my game that i am probably just not finishing. Essentially me(Austria Hungary white in middle) with a small habsburg alliance + the arab league vs everyone else (who are also fighting each other).
My enemies:
Communist britain + what's left of italy + Brazil + India for the British group. Facist Russia + Japan + almost dead Norway for The European league. Almost dead Denmark + Argentina in a dying Nordic council. USA, Communist Mexico, Free france, Australia, Canada, and Colombia for the North American Alliance. Nationalist south Africa by themself.
My faction: 3 puppets i made + a 1 tile fascist Yemen
My allies: A dying arab league led by peru, A landlocked Ukraine and other small countries that are only fighting the dying nordic council.
Neutrals that kind of matter but don't really: A German republic that lost a previous war, A shrunk lithuania who lost a previous war, United cantons(switzerland), many chinese warlord nations. German military Junta that never made the kaiser that is now a small nation in Africa and i just find it funny. And lastly: The split up African Unions that keep causing African civil wars.

My game is a mess.

[simple plank]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-gif-16160776896834106039

[trim pike]

What

U make a linear best fit line of regression

[gusty oracle]

😨

[trim pike]

Wait

Nvm

[gusty oracle]

big word

[trim pike]

Yes hes right

Quadratic

I didnt see the data properly

[trim pike]

Find this

Idk how desmos work

[gusty oracle]

im not working on it anymore

[trim pike]

U got it?

[gusty oracle]

nah im too tired for math rn

[trim pike]

💀

[gusty oracle]

I was just getting mad at it

[heavy vigil]

Hi chemist

[gusty oracle]

i might just ask my teacher to help so he doesnt slime me

[trim pike]

Hey

[simple plank]

how many chromozones do you guys have?

[trim pike]

Ill do it

[trim pike]

23 pairs

[gusty oracle]

more than you lol

[simple plank]

very very bad

[drifting kiln]

67

[trim pike]

Ew feet

Imagine converting from feet to inches

Anyways

[gusty oracle]

im sorry for imperial system jumpscare

[trim pike]

-2.25x^2 +14.1x +2.2

Wait whats the qn

Oh

💀

Uhm

Plug in the feet and solve ig

[gusty oracle]

oktobersong is tuff while playing communist germany

[drifting kiln]

bruh this is like year 7 work

[gusty oracle]

uh huh

[trim pike]

idk what that is but yea its easy

[gusty oracle]

can you translate this to american

[trim pike]

Plug in 10 feet and get the two values

Minus the two values from each other

(Basically the time inbetween)

And u got the ans

[heavy vigil]

American education genuinely teaches you like youre multiple years behind in other countries

[gusty oracle]

ok but i dont have my paper anymore

[gusty oracle]

I noticed that

im too tired for this

[trim pike]

gn

[gusty oracle]

gn

[drifting kiln]

burger burger pizza hotdog texas cowboy

[gusty oracle]

thanks

I might be cooked though

I fell off hard at math

need to lock in

[drifting kiln]

bro just ask chatgpt for help

its actually so op though it overcomplicates stuff

[gusty oracle]

I might tomorrow

[haughty gulch]

-_- i capped italy and germany and wondered why we still haven't won, till I saw Thailand was a major

[heavy vigil]

This is exactly how you do not learn

[drifting kiln]

bro this is litterally exactly how you learn

[heavy vigil]

What do you memorize of it?

Look im against forced homework as someone who did not learn from that + how recent of a practice it is

But that doesnt make ai bots any better at helping you actually learn

[drifting kiln]

when i say use chatgpt i dont just mean make it do ur work i mean make it tell you what to do and how it works because usually it can say something in 40 words that a professor will spend 45 minutes telling you

[drifting kiln]

ai is very useful at helping you learn because of this

[heavy vigil]

You want the long explanation so you can double check it with your own calculations though? At least in this case

[wind swift]

That went pretty well

[drifting kiln]

not really i dont know if you didnt my answer right or something but im just saying chatgpt is good at telling u how to do stuff and you should always ask it for help rather than watching like a 10 minute yt vid

[simple plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346636226798813257/1376667142123946065/togif.gif

[azure elbow]

gpt doesnt know shit about hoi4

[lethal ether]

this is pretty annoying

theyre a major and they do pretty much nothing useful

[eternal palm]

Do not consult ChatGPT about hoi4. 💀
It literally just regurgitates reddit, thats its main source and reddit is like THE worst source for this game

[zinc light]

Yeah this fr. There's so little information to this Game beyond Videos, that it doesnt have a whole Lot to Go Off of

[scenic lava]

victoooor

[eternal palm]

Random capitalisation of letters, nice try german

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-rude-meany-patrick-star-cry-gif-14455337

[eternal palm]

😰

[drifting kiln]

bro we were talking about homework not hoi4 😭 @azure elbow @zinc light

[eternal palm]

Nevermind 💀

Why u talking abt this in #hoi4-general though

[clear dagger]

because the homework assigned was "Which states do you need to form the Byzantine Empire"

https://tenor.com/view/georgios-kosmidis-hoi4-cake-byzantine-empire-gif-12242743710566161965

[eternal palm]

💀

[azure elbow]

for uni u need gpt

but if youre using gpt for high school 💀

[misty fossil]

its real…

i mean i know it is but seeing an avtual pic of it is so crazy

[misty fossil]

do not use generative ai

ur offloading the studying to the chatbot and you get absolutely no value in the long run

no wonder why everyone is doing worse and worse at critical thinking

[ripe slate]

Unless you need to find a niche source Id not consult ChatGPT for anything

[cerulean anvil]

i think chatgpt is good for building a foundation of what you need to study, or the basic ideas of a topic

[heavy vigil]

Even then just search in a different language

[zinc light]

I use it mostly to fill it with the stuff I need to study, and then make exams based Off that stuff

Like "Here is everything I need to know. Make 20 questions"

[cerulean anvil]

anyways does anyone know how well hoi4 is coded? it seems like for paradox's dlc system games would require to be well maintainable

[ripe slate]

wdym by that

Most notably, it is generally know that HOI IV has limited multithreading compared to later games

[cerulean anvil]

like code scalability, maintainability, readability etc

[misty fossil]

at least its not chile

[misty fossil]

its so funny trying to find academic source materials in my native language (vietnamese) because the common person just dont enjoy access to any of that

most of the stuff are locked away in institutional databases

[heavy vigil]

Theres site auto translate buttons

I could get it if i wanted to

[misty fossil]

the only public library website i know of havent been updated for 20 years

(ho chi minh general library so its literally state owned)

[drifting kiln]

I will do what i want you cant stop me I use only ai and get a+ on most assements

[misty fossil]

i just do it through my uni's library

alright then

[heavy vigil]

No like

The internet gives you access to all sources if you want to

[misty fossil]

imagine i need a surgery and my surgeon used gpt to pass his exams

[heavy vigil]

As long as theyre online

[misty fossil]

most of them are paywalled

if not all

a very select few can be accessed through the internet archive

[drifting kiln]

well maybe he can ask chatgpt how to do the surgery because chatgpt knows everything

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1414531663677100074/attachment.gif

[drifting kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/mussolini-serious-who-cares-gif-5388395

[heavy vigil]

is this ragebait?

[spring saffron]

bro honestly the graveyard of empires DLC is 10/10 ragebait

it cant get better than this

[drifting kiln]

no the guy i responded to is ragebaiting because what medical exams allow you to use chatgpt

my dad is a chatgpt so i would know this

[clear dagger]

my dad's grok

[drifting kiln]

bro this is so insensititve my dad died whilst giving birth

thats why she is an ai now

[clear dagger]

you were born??

i didnt know that

[drifting kiln]

bro what??

how dont u know that i have to have been born im lijimitately talkign to u rn bro

[clear dagger]

you weren't cloned in a pod like the rest of us?

oh yeah right its 2025

not 2069

[drifting kiln]

just stop talking bro your just a fricking yapper ur probably like from sydney lol

or something lo

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[drifting kiln]

lmao

[clear dagger]

they dont do that yet

[clear dagger]

i dont live in brazil

[misty fossil]

im living in sydney

[drifting kiln]

brooo i said sydney u fricker

[clear dagger]

im from swaziland

[drifting kiln]

yea alright bro and im from generalgouverment

like just yappin atp bro

[clear dagger]

ah nice

love what they're doing over there

[drifting kiln]

bro no they litterally genocided the entire bank staff yesterday

and my family tommorow

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-thumb-thumbs-up-dodgeball-thank-you-chuck-norris-chuck-norris-gif-14567035

[rose tartan]

Question, maybe some of you know which focused we should I take when I going for the Republic in Spain poorly five trained units ? t question, maybe some of you know which focused we should I take when I going for the Republic in Spain the 10 poorly trained soldiers or the five trained unitsr ?

[eternal palm]

Moar unit means moar good

You grind units XP very fast in spain anyway, so having more units is usually better

[rose tartan]

But the trained ones are bigger ?

[eternal palm]

hmm, ye that changes things

Ye then take the better template

[rose tartan]

6 divisions to 3 divisions

[eternal palm]

Battalions* but ye alr

[tiny tartan]

These DLCs play like someone's first focus tree mod

people be doing entire new games inside hoi4 for free, and paradox devs take months for some focus trees for minors that don't even work

[spring saffron]

i legitimately would offer my own free time to fix this but its impossible

like i know iraqi history ive studied it for years and this just makes me wanna gouge my eyes out

[tiny tartan]

you can make a mod that fixes it

[spring saffron]

i suppose yeah

[tiny tartan]

paradox games play best if you don't know anything about history, because if you do you may question why they made an anti-german polish nationalist just give up the independence of Poland to Germany that he fought for for so many years, right after coming to power

One of the fathers of polish independence takes power -> instantly gives up independence
👍
Makes sense

[sudden thistle]

There is a balance between fun and historical

Ofc the hist is goofy

[clear dagger]

he has a plan

have some goddamn faith

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-rdr2-gif-15590042829300150688

[tiny tartan]

After giving up our independence we can declare independence again later
But the Germans can just refuse and declare on us

[clear dagger]

which is what the 40 thousand panzer IV's from german lend lease are for

[clear dagger]

"clearly you don't have a phd in gpt"

[primal timber]

is austrian or hungarian a-h better

trick question im playing austria either way

[eternal palm]

Austrian is stronger

lol

[analog ivy]

uk ai is cooking question mark? (support companies are bad but the actual template might be good)

only issue is they are attacking through the mountains instead of the eastern front where THERE IS PLAINS

[sudden thistle]

🔥 ?

[analog ivy]

ive had better ones

i had a 9 attack general in an rp game

PALESTINIAN TROOPS HAVE ENCIRCLED TROOPS IN ITALY

One of my divs had 0 org and just dissapeared 🥀

[proven mauve]

Wait, are u attacking in a neutral country?

[analog ivy]

we are fine

[analog ivy]

no the neutral country is san marino

we are attacking the tile that circles around them

[proven mauve]

I knew that, it was just confusing to see

[analog ivy]

this is a way better tank div

the ai is cooking

WAIT WHAT HOW DID FRANCE CAP?

PALESTINE NOW HAS FRENCH TERRITORY

this is scary

[drifting kiln]

why are they called jund filastin

[analog ivy]

idk

[heavy vigil]

Mostly fine

No terrain traits

[analog ivy]

this is sick

[gloomy burrow]

dumbasses

[sudden thistle]

I swore the 2nd one had a forest buff

Or it was my special forces idk

[flat barn]

hi

[flat barn]

tno ahh vichy france

[analog ivy]

honestly theres not too much border gore

i just noticed that the swedish federation united scandinavia other then denmark and iceland which is cool

bro bulgarias acting like a player and just putting forts across the entire country lol

[sudden thistle]

Which sane player would do that

[analog ivy]

WHY IS ITALY A PUPPET OF BRITAIN

[analog ivy]

trolls ig

makes it really annoying for people to push

[heavy vigil]

No

Not really lol

[analog ivy]

welp ig britain (AI BTW) is going for a world conquest run

[analog ivy]

germany is cooked

THE PALESTINIAN BLITZKRIEG WILL DESTROY THE GERMANS!!

palestinian troops are on the door of berlin!

welp japan is in the war ig the game is cooked now time to do something different

[brave steeple]

this will save me

[worn lintel]

Rate my encirclement

And here is postwar

[eternal palm]

Why assing org first and charismatic :nowhy:
And why Winter specialist on zhukov :nowhy:

[karmic bolt]

How do I fire these rockets?

[proud tapir]

dosent zhukov already come with winter traits tho?

[eternal palm]

First, dont overstack your airports
then assign to an airzone and assign target

[eternal palm]

ye but the guy assigned one extra, he doesnt start with both

[proud tapir]

ah

[karmic bolt]

They automaticlly fire? When air is green?

[eternal palm]

iirc

ye

[sudden thistle]

Idk

[tiny plank]

Some countries needs a big changes to national focus

[uncut pollen]

Like Luxembourg

[proud tapir]

Yugoslavia

[uncut pollen]

Luxembourg needs more love

[proud tapir]

[tiny plank]

New zealend gets 2 naval 7 military and 3 from its unique focus tree while country like samou can get 3... each

New zealend should at least get 5

You start with 0

Or give it a unique kind of style like uruguay

You cant expand only thing you can do is play " tall "

[tiny plank]

That state somhow produces MORE IRON than new zealend

[proud tapir]

you really like NZ

[eternal palm]

Never ever have I seen a new zealand shill 💀

[proud tapir]

I wonder where you are from

[eternal palm]

Alr, theres a niche for everything

[eternal palm]

Australia obv

[proud tapir]

Fr fr

Come to think of it, an Australian focus tree rework dosent sound bad

[eternal palm]

Australias tree is fine

Gets good buffs unironically, the only problem is that ur australia

and that it didnt get the same treatment as other minors that got huge expansion options

Tbh if they just added like an oceania formable thats the tree fixed right there

It doesnt have to make sense but thats the power fantasy people want

[analog ivy]

why do trades on go through ships instead of both ships and planes?

cause planes exist in this game like if trade could be stored on planes it would make being a landlocked country a bit easier

and ig it would make more sense?? or were planes back then not big enough?

[eternal palm]

Yea uh aviation wasnt that advanced then

And like raw materials are still never shipped via plane

[analog ivy]

i mean if they can put guns on planes they could definitely move stuff with them tho

[eternal palm]

its more that cargo and other stuff is being transported via planes

[eternal palm]

I'm pretty sure that 80 years later, we still arent doing that for a damn reason

Or are there planes with coal on them lol

[flat barn]

hi

[analog ivy]

there should be lol

[sudden thistle]

Convoys are just better for shipment anyways

[analog ivy]

like if planes can carry 150 people WITH LUGGAGE they could definitely transfer large amounts of stuff

[sudden thistle]

U can put more on a boat than on a plane

[eternal palm]

Those 2 are completely different things

u cant just put 80 kg of coal in a seat

[sudden thistle]

Convoys are better for mass movement or whatever it’s called

[analog ivy]

yeah but like that proves that planes can carry the weight of alot of resources tho

[flat barn]

Hi

[eternal palm]

its not about the weight

[eternal palm]

its about loading, its about transport to and from the airport

[analog ivy]

air cargo does exist

[eternal palm]

Yea air cargo

Ofc things are flown by plane

We are talking about raw materials

like in hoi4

[analog ivy]

oh yeah in hoi4

[eternal palm]

🤦

[analog ivy]

uhhh prob not

[eternal palm]

u brought this up.....

[analog ivy]

lol

you brought up modern day

[eternal palm]

jfc

[analog ivy]

Wait transport planes exist in hoi4 already

but just not for trade

like you can put planes on air supply

i dont think anyone does that tho but its possible

[eternal palm]

🤯

[analog ivy]

if you can transfer guns why not steel???

[trim pike]

💀

[analog ivy]

sorry im being really dumb steel weighs WAY MORE

nvm ignore everything i said

[eternal palm]

💀

Thinking is hard dw

[analog ivy]

YES VERY HARD

everything i said could literally be done 10000x better by convoy ships lmao

[eternal palm]

Who wouldve thought 🤯

[analog ivy]

and also landlocked countries usually have rivers that lead to oceans lol

wait why cant you move ships and convoys through rivers?

[trim pike]

U can transfer supply with rivers

[analog ivy]

wait how

[trim pike]

Theres no how

Game does it for u

[analog ivy]

oh yeah

[limpid mantle]

Open bets! Am I going to survive sheep AI?

[analog ivy]

well what i mean is why cant convoys pass through rivers or use rivers like irl?

[trim pike]

Maybe yes

[analog ivy]

like luxembourg has a river that connects into the ocean but cant trade with the united kingdom since they are landlocked

irl i'd imagine luxembourg has convoy ships or something to trade with the united kingdom using the river

[trim pike]

Wdym yes they can

Unless theyre at war with Belgium netherlands franc and germany all at once

[analog ivy]

no trade route is found

[trim pike]

Hm oh

[analog ivy]

and there is literally a river that connects to the english channel

[trim pike]

Rivers are narrow

[rustic python]

something really painful happened

[trim pike]

Also its only for supply

[rustic python]

5 tank divisions pushed 2 tiles with low org, and got destroyed in the attack on the 2nd tile because they couldnt abandon the attack wtf?

hundreds of high veterancy tanks down the bin lmao

[analog ivy]

well supply goes through the rivers via bridges but the game doesnt let you actually use the river itself with convoys for trade or something

[eternal palm]

Smaller ships can also just sail up rivers with the supply?

Thats how its portrayed in game

[trim pike]

No not bridges

Also i swear trade can go thru neutral countries

[analog ivy]

i can but any country that isnt connected to the european main landmass or is in another continent i literally cant trade with

even though theres a river literally connect from luxembourg to the english channel that if luxembourg really wanted to could use to trade with them

[hollow anvil]

Is it possible to cap soviets by 1939?

[limpid mantle]

hecking relentless

[eternal palm]

The Mosel is like really small and only kinda passes through luxemburg. And even if pdx cared to make convoys sail rivers, its really not that important. Its how hoi4 only implies trade routes existing? Like u dont need a rail to trade, u just need control. PDX didnt even bother implementing a system how trade actually transfers over land

[zenith charm]

Absolutely lock in

[eternal palm]

Totally

just depends when u declare

[hollow anvil]

1939 declare

Cuz I need to cap allies first 😭

• sealion

[eternal palm]

U can take ur time though. Sov is so weak usually

allies scale harder lategame

[zenith charm]

U can cap allies before 1937 if u tryhard

[eternal palm]

Funny italy strat ye

[hollow anvil]

How?

Idk this strat

[zenith charm]

there's a video on youtube

A guide I thinn

To cap allies before May 1937 or something

[hollow anvil]

U mean the old 3 year old vid? Where he naval invades with a glitch

Like the glitch that u have naval supremacy for 1 day

When declaring war

I don't think it works now

[eternal palm]

It does still, but not as reliably as it did before. I cant tell you why either though. Theoretically at least, it should be the same

[analog ivy]

woah this minigame looks sick

[hollow anvil]

I tried using it an it hasn't worked a single time for me 😭 it's propably very unreliable

[eternal palm]

But what you can do as italy is: whitepeace ethiopia, take austria, join axis, declare on malaya, dont call in germany and naval invade from germany

[analog ivy]

it does

[limpid mantle]

NO THE THING IS, THERE HASNT BEEN WINTER SINCE THE WAR STARTED

THIS AINT NO WINTER WAR!

and this is why im losing

a winter war without winter

this division is basically useless then

[hollow anvil]

I mean genuine sealing is still easy, like not using glitches, u can easily reliably 100% win sealing by 1938

Without glitches

By just bombing out the channel with naval bombers 😭 u have to be building naval bombers day 1 tho

[trim pike]

Effects of global warming

[noble merlin]

how do i fix this

[heavy vigil]

You can

New zealand gets a formable

[heavy vigil]

Me

[heavy vigil]

Put all under 1 general

[tiny plank]

Formable my ahh

It is just small islands

Like serves no purpose

[heavy vigil]

And taiwan

9mil core pop or something

[tiny plank]

Yeah and fight whole china

Or japan

[heavy vigil]

Japan is easy

[tiny plank]

Easy ? You get 2 naval while they can easily get 30 -40

[heavy vigil]

You get 6 research slots and pretty decent airframe buffs

[heavy vigil]

Well yeah youre also in the allies

Or can join the comintern or whatever

Like yeah its a minor power

It isnt supposed to be OP or super easy

But for a minor power its pretty doable + not overwhelmingly busted like india, afghanistan

[drowsy laurel]

The fact that Japan isn't as easy as let's say Germany is historically accurate

[limpid mantle]

Alas winter comes

[jolly folio]

Hello all. Is there a section for Russians?

[flat barn]

I dont think so unfortunately

[jolly folio]

it's sad

[flat barn]

Yes

[hollow anvil]

How to use the assault engineer company?

I researched it, did the special project but I can't use it

[brave steeple]

...

[eternal palm]

Its mutually exclusive with engineer

So click on the engineer and swap it

[ancient marsh]

? they get 5

actually wait don’t they only have 4

[daring geyser]

you probably have normal engineers on the template

take them off and assault engineers will appear

[hollow anvil]

Ywah I did I was stupid 😭 😭 😭 which ones are better for tanks, armored or assault engineer company?

[ancient marsh]

armored if you can afford but realistically assault

[eternal palm]

Assault for attack, armored for defense

and normal engi for inf defense

[hollow anvil]

They both cost the same

[eternal palm]

Its the same equipment

[ancient marsh]

does armored not cost tanks

??

[eternal palm]

No???

[hollow anvil]

Both cost tanks

[eternal palm]

We're talking about mev

its a type of tank thats used for those support companies

[ancient marsh]

I thought they costed tanks mb

[daring geyser]

assault makes you lose stats on most situations despite having a tiny attack buff on forests which you should be able to click

so i say armored overall

[hollow anvil]

It only makes u loose defense

[daring geyser]

nope

you lose breakthrough over rivers too

[hollow anvil]

Wait

Where does it say that 😭

[ancient marsh]

hover over the terrain bubbles

[hollow anvil]

It doesn't show breakthrough there

[daring geyser]

according to a guy on red baron so it's probably true, i'm too lazy to open hoi4 right now

but uhm, yeah, those stats are pretty bad

they're still good but i say armored is better

[eternal palm]

How exactly? lol

[brave steeple]

i think something broke

[ancient marsh]

ik armored give hp and tanks capture bonuses

[eternal palm]

Assault is just bad for defense

[daring geyser]

-30% movement on rivers

[ancient marsh]

i always run assault on mot but really the difference is negligible on tanks

[eternal palm]

Bascially, terrain modifiers, have breakthrough and attack modifiers when attacking, and a defense and attack modifier while defending. What you see as terrain attack and defense in the div designer is when it applies Break/defense when either attacking or defending

[hollow anvil]

Huh, assault gives +25% movement on rivers

[eternal palm]

Only on rivers, insane

[hollow anvil]

I'm in game right now

[eternal palm]

Makeshift bridges exist

[daring geyser]

the what

[hollow anvil]

It gives +25% movement

Assauly

Assault

[daring geyser]

i got the screenshot from a discussion i found on red baron

[hollow anvil]

I'm in game rn looking at the stats 😭 cna I send here?

[eternal palm]

💀

Maybe test it before saying stuff lmao

Cuz that modifier would be new to me too

[eternal palm]

Yes

u are allowed to share screenshots lol

[ancient marsh]

it’s not a big deal if this is sp lol

[daring geyser]

i already tested it a ton of times, i had come to the conclusion armored is better but it's just brain knowledge at this point

i forgot the reasoning

[ancient marsh]

actually in any scenario

[hollow anvil]

like from waht im seeing i dont think it looses u any stats 😭

[eternal palm]

thats pretty dumb ngl

[hollow anvil]

unless i have like temu hoi4 or smth

[lethal ether]

no i dont think so

[eternal palm]

nah this should be correct

[daring geyser]

when you play hoi4 for years it's hard to memorize things

[eternal palm]

no? If anything it becomes easier? I dont have trouble remembering why things are good lol

idk bout you though

Also dont talk like u sum unc dawg, I'm not exactly new either

[daring geyser]

not really id say

there are tons of little things in the game which you don't memorize

especially with updates

but yeah i just pull from discussions when im uncertain

this guy explains it better

although it is considering for multiplayer, which is what i play mostly

[hollow anvil]

That's just a convo

Like I can take a screenshot of someone saying something too

I wanna stat comparison 😭 and why it's better

[daring geyser]

yeah but it's not a random server with random people

[hollow anvil]

Someone saying it's better doesn't mean anything

[daring geyser]

it's semicomp hoi4 from a pretty credible source

[daring geyser]

and also you can see the defense modifiers being lower

[hollow anvil]

They aren't lowered, they're lower compared to armored company

But the assault doesn't lower defense

[daring geyser]

like the whole spy mechanics are a thing most ppl don't memorize fully, even on mp matches, because a good half of the utility of spies are collab govs and the other half is getting intel