#hoi4-general

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uneven basin
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Finish off nations that contributed first that dont have focus trees

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Like dutch east indies and malaya

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Burma

sudden thistle
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ireland would have a lot of content

uneven basin
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Mongolia

sudden thistle
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celtic empire 🤤

serene token
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They could side with Germany, which would cause chaos in the UK

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And if I recall, Ireland was having political problems.

flat barn
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or fight alongside uk for northern ireland

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little entente rework would be epic too

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little entente rework
france czechoslovakia romania yugoslavia

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even fits paradoxes 4 nation per dlc policy

serene token
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Wait, how many counties are getting a fix in the new dlc rn?

flat barn
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We arent fully sure but

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for now what has been listed is

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Japan Philibeans China Communist China

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Unfortunately paradox is likely just to stop there and not touch anything else

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No dutch east indies or malaysia focus tree

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flat barn
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If not now when

serene token
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Maybe the next Pacific one would be Malaysia, Dutch East Indies, New Zealand, and Australia.

flat barn
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but thats such a paradox thing to do

serene token
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Indeed.

flat barn
serene token
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I've been mainly playing mods.

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Since that was much of my interest in Hoi4.

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flat barn
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Yeah

serene token
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In real life, Poland wanted to, but France and the UK told them not to, because it may provoke the Germans into declaring war on Poland, violating the alliance treaty or someone sort of reason that will prevent them coming into Poland's aid.

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Its a weird deal, I dunno what crazy stuff the allies were trying to pull in the 30's.

gray gust
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when sale

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I want sale

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game sale

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sale now

flat barn
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and retreated to their defensive plans

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the only reason they didnt is so uk and france knew the war started and wouldnt just betray poland

uneven basin
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nah ussr from east kills them anyway

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plus germany had crazy air superiority anyway

split bane
# gray gust when sale

There's a political sim sale starting in two days
Idk if Hoi4 counts as political sim tho
If it doesn't we have to wait for the Autumn Sale

gray gust
flat barn
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I wish frants attaked nartsee germaniy

split bane
flat barn
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Stupid frentch peeple

uneven basin
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Cause they built maginot

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Better to stay behind defensive than to go on offensive and when poland falls germany can attack and deorg you before you can reorganize

uncut wing
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is it bannable to have a account that u can't acces anymore in the server?

uneven basin
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I mean probably but no way for them to now if your using an alt

uncut wing
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cause i lost the gmail of the account and now i can't enter it

opal nymph
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I dont believe so

flat barn
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if it fails i withdraw or hold a defensive position in occupied germany ready to prop up the benelux

chilly cipher
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Was there ever a time when a country launched nukes all over the world in HOI4

heavy vigil
uneven basin
chilly cipher
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Yeah but like was there any time where someone had done all that in the history of HOI4 (on every single province of the world)

flat barn
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im unsure who to play

night lintel
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TFR is free 🥀

wary sparrow
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ah no more supply issues in the amazon

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silk fern
night lintel
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dawg it's only 20 minutes

silk fern
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perchance

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flat barn
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opal nymph
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Poland was basically forced to guard all of the border and not at strategic locations

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opal nymph
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Also the rivers were drier than usual

serene token
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Your fighting on two fronts, you need to relocate resources and manpower to both fronts.

flat barn
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I dont think he'd feel comfortable joining a war that could last

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Maybe

serene token
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And I highly bet ya high command would be panicking.

opal nymph
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Poland was going to die because France was going to do nothing

flat barn
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If only france did something

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Literally poland could have performed as it did historically and france still could have saved the day

opal nymph
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Poland's military was not equipped to deal with the air superiority from the Germans

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flat barn
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The biggest thing holding the french army back is that they are french

opal nymph
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France could have pushed to the Rhine

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Easily

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flat barn
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It didnt have to win conventionally

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flat barn
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It sponged most the german-soviet army for a month

opal nymph
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flat barn
serene token
# flat barn Poland was a stalling tactic

The plan was for Poland to hold while France pushes, and UK bombed Germany, the Germans would reallocate resources to the French front, then Poland would do a counter attack.

opal nymph
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But it was the air and maneuverability that got the Polish

flat barn
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Tp-5 was good

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just lacked armour

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flat barn
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Maybe we could extend the winter war to make the soviets not attack

serene token
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They just didn't have enough of them.

heavy vigil
flat barn
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Sweden helps finland perhaps

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heavy vigil
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Polish infantry had a lot of AT rifles

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opal nymph
flat barn
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The whole border?

opal nymph
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To show that they were willing to defend or something

heavy vigil
opal nymph
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Something the western allies wanted them to do

heavy vigil
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Interesting vid

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opal nymph
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Something like that

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# flat barn Wait why?

Because if not the Germans could do a major cut off, surrounding a lot of their troops.

dusky burrow
flat barn
# opal nymph Something like that

" Oh you retreated from your narrow corridor to not get encircled? No surely this means you willingly ceded this land! We are not helping you "

dusky burrow
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Yeah

serene token
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They were attaching through Solvakia.

flat barn
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I bet the allies would think like that lol

heavy vigil
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People sometimes forget the polish army didnt magically disappear when they surrendered

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A lot of them turned into the armia krajowa

dusky burrow
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^

serene token
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No, it would be considered a tactical retreat, if I recall.

opal nymph
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Romanian bridge head strategy

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Flee to Romania

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Easy win, fight another time

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heavy vigil
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And they cracked the German Ingima

opal nymph
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Poland did a lot in exile

serene token
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I'll pull up sometime, be back.

heavy vigil
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Of course you have anders' army recruited from the gulags well known for their africa campaign anf into italy

drifting kiln
heavy vigil
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And the division recruited from mostly pilots and other refugees in the uk

serene token
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https://youtu.be/I47vCycUSW4?si=OOcnL3Vvkb0WIvCJ

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Defense of Poland 1: The Battle of the Border | WW2 | Extra History

📜 Defense of Poland: The Battle of the Border -Poland is threatened in 1939 not just by the Nazis, but by its own precarious geography between Germany and Soviet Russia. Edward Rydz-Śmigły spreads the Polish cavalry and tanks as thin as he has to around the border.

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heavy vigil
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I used to read about it a lot

flat barn
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Imagine a ww2 where
poland mobilizes anyway despite french and british pressure
france attacks through the rhineland
poland retreats to the defensive positions whiles not getting encircled
the soviet union is distracted elsewhere longer

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Its a dream

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I wish it happene

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happened

heavy vigil
serene token
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I just realized, Poland was the 4 or 5th strongest country in Europe during that time.

flat barn
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I wonder how fast i could win if i did a mp game as poland and a friend playing as france

flat barn
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I hate how polands the butt of the joke

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They are very capable

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its just they always got dogpiled had poor geography and circumstance

serene token
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Now Poland is the third strongest military in Nato, and the 23rd strongest in the world.

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heavy vigil
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The top 5 militaries in the world btw are like

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Actually i got that sentence wrong

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Top 5 airforces*

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Are like the US airforce, the US navy, russia, the US army

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And last was china or the US marines

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I forgot

flat barn
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Canada had some of the biggest airforces and navies of the world near the end of ww2

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canada is so poorly represented in hoi4 imo

dusky burrow
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Honestly the US army doesn't count

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Most of it is transport assets

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heavy vigil
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Just irl the "big militaries" at least in raw size pale compared to the US

flat barn
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I cant remember where i heard it but apparently 1 man was responsible for supplying a japanese soldier but the average american soldier had 13

dusky burrow
flat barn
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I cant remember where i heard this

dusky burrow
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Although today that would mean jumping out of a helicopter instead of a cargo plane... most of the time

flat barn
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whos the second strongest in nato?

heavy vigil
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flat barn
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Lol

heavy vigil
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Or france

flat barn
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I doubt germany could beat poland in a war nowdays

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Germany has gotta be weaker than poland

dusky burrow
heavy vigil
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Thats too modern for the scope of this server so i'd recommend you stop talking about it :> before it diverges into modern politics

flat barn
dusky burrow
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Fair

flat barn
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Im glad it didnt go like that tbh

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What topic would you like to go onto now

serene token
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The Japanese called the US Marinas the "Gods of death." Or something like that.

heavy vigil
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Idk im kinda chilling

flat barn
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Ngl the axis really was fighting the world

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Makes the allies seem a lot less impressive

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The KD rate the army sizes the land mass each side controlled

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Japan did really well in the pacific for what they had

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What confuses me is how they were stuck in china but managed to throw a load of shit into the pacific? like why not just use that against china knock them out then go for the pacific atleast

dusky burrow
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The Germans had like a 2-to-1 kd ratio against the Soviets, around half of that in 1941

dusky burrow
flat barn
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Really?

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how many men invaded the dutch east indies

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dusky burrow
flat barn
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Damn

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Do you think Japan could have won the pacific?

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I dont think so due to us industrial power

dusky burrow
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No, much of the 1942 victories was due to the disorganization of Allied forces

heavy vigil
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flat barn
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But im wondering if you guys had any what ifs which tilt the favour in japans area

heavy vigil
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even japan didnt think they could win

flat barn
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I mean lets just say japan takes all of the pacific islands ( unrealistic ) how hard would it be for america to relaunch back

heavy vigil
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they didnt even think they could afford to fight the US alone much less all the allies

dusky burrow
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In Malaya for instance the British were never able to form up a proper defensive line and didn't know how to fight in the fluid maneuver battles the Japanese kept creating

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heavy vigil
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when that didnt work out they had to strike indonesia in order to have fuel

flat barn
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Didnt america guarantee indonesia anyway?

heavy vigil
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unlike hoi4 they couldnt import from the ussr because of much higher tensions

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yes

flat barn
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Wow

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America really was itching for war

heavy vigil
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but japan saw all wesytern powers (indonesia, uk, us, france) as one unified force anyway

dusky burrow
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By contrast the Philippine defenders were able to retreat onto Bataan, but the US fleet that was supposed to arrive got... well, thrashed at Pearl Harbor. Also the Japanese managed to catch the American airforce on the ground

flat barn
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Japan was doomed

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heavy vigil
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and their only perceived option was a big strike to lift the embargo

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they never planned to win the war outright

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it was not deemed as possible since the start

flat barn
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Interesting but what if it made america lift the embargo?

dusky burrow
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Yeah

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flat barn
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I know thats really unprobable and has a 0.001 % chance of happening

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but

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flat barn
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What if there was nobody present at the ships?

leaden quartz
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whos better for the inner circle hess or borman

heavy vigil
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there werent high enough casualties to bring a big anti war outcry

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because they struck during a weekend

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iirc

dusky burrow
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Like American terms were too harsh on Japan, Tojo absolutely refused to compromise on China

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dusky burrow
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And then Japan occupied Vichy Indochina

serene token
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It would still be an act of war

heavy vigil
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yeah that was intended

flat barn
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I dont get what im doing

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Its like no matter where i look

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The cracks for a japanese limited victory are patched with an american filling

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It was truely just joever for the japanese

serene token
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America number one.

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heavy vigil
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japan at least was the most realistic

dusky burrow
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Well the Japanese, like, you know, lost Midway

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dusky burrow
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I don't think the Japanese navy was fundamentally more skilled than the American one was, they just had an element of surprise

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# flat barn Spam not skill

There was a quote "America is 50 tribes in a trench coat that has the military budget to kill God himself."

flat barn
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Italy could have just remained neutral and sit it out

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Japan was starving to death

dusky burrow
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The land forces on the other hand, yeah there were skill issues there, but those were also woefully underprepared

flat barn
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The biggest industry

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Massive population

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No internal weakness

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Political stability

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Protected by oceans

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flat barn
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everyone has a gun

dusky burrow
flat barn
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It's like someone used console commands

dusky burrow
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Roosevelt was almost overthrown by a fascist coup

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flat barn
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If britain kept hold of america would it still become a massive industrial rich hub or would it be butterflied away?

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I always wonder this in " what if everything went perfect for britain " scenarios

dusky burrow
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dusky burrow
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It's funny because the guy they tried to install... well he didn't believe in it at all

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So that's how everyone found out, Smedley told them about it

flat barn
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Do you think the soviet union was doomed to collapse?

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flat barn
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I mean everything is long term nothing lasts forever but

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i mean in early 90-2010 late

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If so why

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And i mean from the start

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radiant hawk
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But it needed reform. It’s just the reforms were implemented too fast for the fragile state to handle

flat barn
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Do you think the USSR in WW2 could have taken less casualties or just done better in general?

dusky burrow
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radiant hawk
flat barn
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Was this purely from the intensity of fighting? or can some general incompetence and leadership issues be involved in this?

radiant hawk
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You’d have to go back into history and change a lot of fundamental principles about the Soviet Union

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summer plover
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I mean I researched the topic a lot

serene token
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If I recall, a few Soviet generals were preparing for a German invasion a few weeks before it happened.

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summer plover
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I think that the USSR wasn't ready to fight the germans and just had to throw bodies at the problem until they could mount a proper counteroffensive

dusky burrow
radiant hawk
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And that seems unlikely to change

serene token
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He listened later on

flat barn
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Didnt stalin refuse to prepare just so it wouldnt possibly provoke germany into attacking?

serene token
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(Kursk)

summer plover
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Question, are the multiplayer games beginner friendly at all? I still suck and was looking to get better by like playing a minor or something

flat barn
radiant hawk
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Some are some aren’t

flat barn
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Absolutely not friendly

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dankus is coming to airstrike your game

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and post you on youtube

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flat barn
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Do you think the soviets would have done better if say they did operation groza?

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( invaded germany first )

serene token
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Would have caught the Germans off guard in the beginning.

flat barn
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But wasnt a lot of soviet equipment overran in the invasion?

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and destroyed

serene token
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But they would probably reorganize fast due to most of them already being in position to invade.

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flat barn
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If they took initiative perhaps a lot of soviet equipment men tanks and others would be in condition to fight instead of being encircled

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Where do you think a stalemate would ensue?

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or do you think it just resumes into a normal barbarossa?

serene token
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I would see a stalemate in the East, while the rest of that fronts close in on Germany.

flat barn
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Do you think the fall of moscow is under acknowledged on its impacts or over acknowledged ?

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flat barn
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in alt histories

flat barn
flat barn
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just a bit into poland

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cerulean orchid
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japan is pretty fun

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flat barn
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It does not result in the soviets packing up and going home but at the same time logistics are absolutely screwed allowing many offensives to be taken

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By the way do you think if finland joined the siege of leningrad it would have fallen?

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dusky burrow
# radiant hawk Yeah, but you’d have to change stalins entirely viewpoint of the world

Stalin had ample unmistakable pieces of evidence that the Germans were going to invade. He had active German deserters telling him, Soviets could see reconnaisance planes flying over their territory, Germany wasn't holding its own end of trade deals while the Soviets were overdelivering, etc etc

Soviet forces should at least have been on alert so that they wouldn't have been taken by surprise by the Germans

spring saffron
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how can one meaningfully send any complaint to pdx about historical inaccuracies within the game

spring saffron
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# serene token Probably, because they would truly be surrounded on all sides.

For a german chance of success i'd have
italy utilises their numerical advantage and prepares just a bit better allowing the fall of egypt and access to iraqs oil
maybe spain joins to take gibraltar just to really mess with britain ( though i acknowledge that spain otherwise would just be a long term liability for the axis )
with that done the panzer coorps would have probably been sent to the east and a tank force would have still been going for the centre leading to the fall of moscow before the winter offensive
finland join the siege of leningrad
Murmansk should also fall to limit yet another allied supply hub
Japan will also strike the soviets ( this is suicidal and going to just collapse japan faster long term but we do not care about them )
The soviets could fight without lendlease but american trucks were vital for supply for the offensive meaning the soviet offensive capacities are limited and the numerical advantage cannot be used, perhaps with germany in iraq they can assist the iranians in a defense perhaps even striking south upto the baku oil fields

with italy holding not allowing the allies to do any major damage holding the choke points
the soviets starving and their potential not being able to be utilised
the germans holding the front
the allies being demoralised being unable to do anything this is how i believe germany has a good shot

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spring saffron
brittle cypress
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urgent

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what gives germany an at research speed bonus

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where isthe focus

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please

flat barn
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Also another interesting alt history idea i had is if britain invaded norway and sweden like they planned to in order to prevent german steel

digital ingot
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how 31 august feels:

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cerulean orchid
dusky burrow
flat barn
spring saffron
# spring saffron like it's milking a dead horse definitely but the graveyard of empires DLC butch...

kurdistan's revolt and its ability to simply inherit the IRQ tag is absolutely ridiculous and it leads to a specific situation where in order to turn communist (which is the only way for iraq, the tag, to even go communist) kurdistan turns to... the iraqi communist party, with an assyrian iraqi leader which had no relation to kurdistan or kurdish politics whatsoever, and if you use commands to turn fascist then they get.. the arab nationalist iraqi politician who was actually hostile towards kurds, as the leader of kurdistan

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its absolutely unhinged

digital ingot
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i need to become comunist before they capitulate 😭

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i cant puppet as a democracy

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democracy puppets are ass

spring saffron
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the entire focus tree is absolutely filled to the brim with historical catastrophes that scratch the heads of anyone even slightly familiar with iraqi and middle eastern history between 1921-1950

cerulean orchid
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# cerulean orchid ooo

you usually can win against the americans as they split their navies and dont offer their full force in a naval battle

flat barn
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Meat

icy crescent
cerulean orchid
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americans only have like 150 ships left

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digital ingot
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and with the path i took i cant

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nvm i can

young ocean
digital ingot
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im js too lazy to take that focus ig

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ig will have to take it

cerulean orchid
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i plan to take hawaii and call it a win

young ocean
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Valid reason

spring saffron
# dusky burrow Yeah the Kurdistan path is... yeah

its not only that, its just the absolute most egregious one. like its existence alone also lets pdx to simply not add an iraqi communist focus tree because... this is it? its the kurds? with the iraqi communist leader? huh? and for all intents and purposes it functionally means that the iraqi communist focus tree is actually a singular focus

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digital ingot
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i like puppeting lol

spring saffron
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kurds had their own socialist leaders and even a short-lived socialist republic with the help of soviet-azeri administrators

digital ingot
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what yall suggest to puppet or to annex

flat barn
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eastern europe puppet

dusky burrow
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errant remnant
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I am going to free all of the nations in the game and try to make the whole world communist as SOV wish me luck

☭

dusky burrow
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Of course they could have changed the leader of the communist party earlier on, but yeah they didn't so that's why you end up with the Assyrian guy if you turn communist without doing this focus

digital ingot
dusky burrow
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Clown path

flat barn
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funfact : soviet union has two tags

digital ingot
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so my puppets get like -75% freedom from trade

flat barn
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SOV and SOU

digital ingot
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i basically can mass produce shit

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lent that to them

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while taking all their resources lol

digital ingot
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i think i once saw one

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i forgo

flat barn
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i fancy doing a german-soviet alliance then betraying germany after the war

digital ingot
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if not i guess i will have to be happy with soviet onion so far

flat barn
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should i do it

digital ingot
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idk

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youll probably get your ass kicked

cerulean orchid
flat barn
digital ingot
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germany

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digital ingot
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you got rid of your debbufs

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?

dusky burrow
flat barn
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no im just about to start

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the game

digital ingot
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soviet army is ass

dusky burrow
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kick the japanese off

digital ingot
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then if you get rid of debuffs

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then yea

cerulean orchid
flat barn
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off

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oof

digital ingot
flat barn
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you gotta invade southern pacifica and raj

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soon the soviets too probably

digital ingot
cerulean orchid
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the germans have moscow and stalingrad

digital ingot
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germany wont do that

flat barn
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i can do it with the soviet army

digital ingot
flat barn
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for sure

digital ingot
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yeah definitely you can

cerulean orchid
digital ingot
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germany wont cap the birtish

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there is NO way

cerulean orchid
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ya but they will prolly cap the soviets

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they control all 3 major soviet cities

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cerulean orchid
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and ive destroyed most of the american navy

digital ingot
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iim staying democratic forever

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😭

placid sleet
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most of the world's countries have now gotten no country for old men

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digital ingot
flat barn
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you should have seen the encirclement

digital ingot
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why now is socialist turkish

cerulean orchid
placid sleet
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I'm ukraine

cerulean orchid
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which country are ytou

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o

placid sleet
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I haven't been fighting

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cerulean orchid
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i was about to say

flat barn
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are the borders juicy

cerulean orchid
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assumed u were germany

digital ingot
placid sleet
digital ingot
shell gyro
placid sleet
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the germans did something to make them ottoman

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idk what

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but then

digital ingot
placid sleet
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the turks did their socialist tree

cerulean orchid
placid sleet
digital ingot
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like if you turn ottoman with the dlc you cant become turkey again if you become the ottoman empire

cerulean orchid
placid sleet
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cerulean orchid
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why did the us just invade all of america

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placid sleet
digital ingot
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the ottoman empire is one of the empires that lasted most time

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almost 700 years

placid sleet
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because i didn't need el salvador with 50000 divisions

shell gyro
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1299-1924

digital ingot
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623

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😭

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i tough it was 273

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673

shell gyro
digital ingot
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yeah mb

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even so they are in top ten

shell gyro
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Np

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Persia lasted….900?

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1000?

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Cuz of the Persian empire

digital ingot
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see

shell gyro
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Bro

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They forgot Persia

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Persia lasted over 1000 years

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BC and stuff

digital ingot
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maybe they didnt add it

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bc it didnt fulfill what is an empire

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idk

shell gyro
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They have been fighting with Athen, Sparta.

shell gyro
digital ingot
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it is bc it was not a continuos empire

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or however u spell that

shell gyro
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Before Christ

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AC

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After Christ

digital ingot
# shell gyro BCE

Key Factors
Dynastic Discontinuity: The first great Persian empire, the Achaemenid Empire, lasted about 200 years (550-330 BC) before it was conquered by Alexander the Great. After a period of Greek rule, the region was governed by other Persian dynasties like the Parthians and the Sasanids, but these were distinct political and dynastic entities, not a direct continuation of the original empire.

Definition of "Empire": Lists like the one you mentioned usually measure the life of a single state or political entity. Because the Persian dynasties succeeded each other with interruptions and changes in power, they are often considered separate empires rather than a single continuous one. For example, the Roman Empire is considered a single empire despite its division into East and West.

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alexander cooked so bad

shell gyro
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They split under their own thing

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Own leaders, own starts

digital ingot
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idk i didnt did that document

pearl stirrup
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yooo

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do i buy ultimate bundle

shell gyro
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Don’t waste it

pearl stirrup
shell gyro
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It just add small useless tweaks

pearl stirrup
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i get all dlcs for 20% off

shell gyro
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Adds*

digital ingot
# shell gyro They split under their own thing

That's an excellent follow-up question. The key difference lies in the concept of continuity and the historical reality of the split.

The Roman Empire's Continuity
While the Roman Empire did split, the Eastern half, which later became known as the Byzantine Empire, is considered by most historians to be the direct continuation of the Roman state. Here's why:

Uninterrupted Political Entity: The Eastern Roman Empire continued to exist as a single, sovereign state with its own government, laws, and emperors for over 1,000 years after the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 AD. Its capital, Constantinople, remained a center of power and culture.

Self-Identity: The citizens of the Byzantine Empire never called themselves "Byzantines." They considered themselves "Romans" and their empire the Roman Empire. The term "Byzantine" was coined by historians long after the empire's fall to differentiate it from the earlier, Latin-speaking Roman Empire.

Legal and Cultural Legacy: The Eastern Empire preserved and developed Roman law, administration, and traditions. The most famous example is the Code of Justinian, a massive compilation of Roman law that became the basis for legal systems across Europe.

pearl stirrup
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alr so whats the best dlcs to get

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i alr got the german one and nostep back

shell gyro
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And uhh

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Red flood

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Maybe even Ice

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shell gyro
opal nymph
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CE stands for Common Era

shell gyro
opal nymph
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BC stands for Before Christ

leaden quartz
opal nymph
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AD stands for in the year of our lord

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But latin

shell gyro
opal nymph
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Thx

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Np

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I knew it

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I’m a small catholic..

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The year of our lord, 1497…

digital ingot
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im askin the ia

shell gyro
shell gyro
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Cheater

opal nymph
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AI told me dihydrogen monoxide was dangerous

shell gyro
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💥

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💥

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💥

opal nymph
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Well when you do electrolysis, yeah

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But otherwise no

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Dihydrogen Monoxide is HOH...

H20

Water

shell gyro
heavy vigil
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Its all dlcs you dont have

cerulean orchid
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maybe by blood alone and la resistance

opal nymph
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No Step Back, Arms Against Tyranny, Man the Guns are the big ones imo

cerulean orchid
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arms against tyranny is also good but if you dont plan to play scandinavia much dont bother

undone vale
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guys please someone help in #modding 😓 💔

cerulean orchid
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i almost never use the arms market

opal nymph
undone vale
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just get the subscription lowkey

heavy vigil
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I think ultimate bundle gives future dlcs too?

cerulean orchid
opal nymph
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MIOs, designers, special forces doctrine

undone vale
opal nymph
heavy vigil
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Cuz i bought it for vic3 and now it gives me future dlcs

opal nymph
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Mechanics good

undone vale
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without MIOs you are significantly weaker

opal nymph
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When you spend 150pp on a designer

heavy vigil
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AAT also gives special forces doctrines btw

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And the market

opal nymph
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Market is nice

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Shame the Czechs got 0 content for selling arms

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Aside from the national spirit

heavy vigil
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Tho back then a lot of ppl played romania

opal nymph
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Romania got some content

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Like an extra focus or 2

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And made the faction swapping easier I think

undone vale
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true montenegro

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opal nymph
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People grilled me on the PDX Forums for saying that it would be nice if PDX gave WtT buyers something free like a Pacific theater unit or music pack.

Did they not remember we got a Yugo tree rework for free?

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opal nymph
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Like the backlash was large

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I have never seen so many respectfully disagrees before

opal nymph
heavy vigil
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So basically forever

opal nymph
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Neat

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Don't abuse your privileges plz

heavy vigil
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Ofc not

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Im doing the exact same as before

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Just blue

undone vale
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:D

flat barn
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hi

uncut heath
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What if japan go north instead of south

pearl stirrup
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all the main ones

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why spend half the bundle for 2

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when i could spend 100 for 12

heavy vigil
digital ingot
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yo

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in order to get soviet onion

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achievement

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i have to be communist

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?

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nvm

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misty fossil
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Tenor
misty fossil
cerulean orchid
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but its best if you do the trotskyist civil war then do the autonomous soviet republics focus

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then i believe u only have to conquer finland

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jolly kettle
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Anybody got any neat suggested graphics mods (that are ironman compat)?

sharp sierra
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astizels map

silk fern
gusty oracle
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I think its time for all of us to do our math homework

opal citrus
gusty oracle
trim pike
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clear dagger
gusty oracle
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im gonna fail the math test

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Oh

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Meth

gusty oracle
trim pike
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Then y2-y1/x2-x1

gusty oracle
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one sec lemme do that

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-2

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Try that

clear dagger
trim pike
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Genz is doomed

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im gen x

trim pike
gusty oracle
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im doomed

trim pike
gusty oracle
trim pike
clear dagger
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silk fern
gusty oracle
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maybe I should do it on paper instead of in my head

trim pike
trim pike
gusty oracle
gusty oracle
clear dagger
opal citrus
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ur a unc gng

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you were born in 2024

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unc status alr

gusty oracle
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@trim pike -2 is correct but I need to get the answer on my own

trim pike
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U tried the method I told u right

clear dagger
gusty oracle
sharp sierra
gusty oracle
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but are you actually gen X

clear dagger
gusty oracle
west flicker
gusty oracle
west flicker
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that's 1 step

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there's a bit more to it

gusty oracle
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ok

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ill do that first

trim pike
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Oh i thought u knew how to do that when i said get the y values….

gusty oracle
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I was just specifying

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yeah my days of just going into a test without studying are big over

trim pike
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Yeah maybe study 😭

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Who goes into tests without studying

gusty oracle
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me

trim pike
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Why

candid oxide
gusty oracle
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idk I hope my teacher lets us use not cards

trim pike
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As in

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What sch

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Secondary

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Or

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Junior college

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Primary maybe?

gusty oracle
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what country are you from

west flicker
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graphing this is too much effort

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trim pike
trim pike
gusty oracle
lone sail
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any good divisions for iraq?

west flicker
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anything that doesn't die

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idk i have like 2 hours in hoi4

gusty oracle
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secondary then

trim pike
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Ok

gusty oracle
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@trim pike I did the problem

west flicker
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what did you get

gusty oracle
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-2

west flicker
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good

trim pike
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Yea

gusty oracle
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im doomed if he doesnt let us use notes

west flicker
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just memorize the formula

gusty oracle
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I mean this isnt hard but other stuff is

trim pike
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Sec sch math is easy

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Just study enough

west flicker
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what is sec school considered in USA terms

gusty oracle
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ill try

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its 10:24 rn

gusty oracle
west flicker
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oh i see

trim pike
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Wtf is 7-10 grade

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Weird ass system

trim pike
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Im doing some rn

gusty oracle
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well we have middle school

west flicker
gusty oracle
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and senior high school

west flicker
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calculus is difficult

gusty oracle
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im taking calculus next year (its over)

trim pike
west flicker
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oh boy

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u = cosx

trim pike
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Dont worry

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Its easy

west flicker
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i messed up my angle rule already

trim pike
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hint: maybe dont immediately start integrating

cedar lance
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hello yalls

trim pike
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Hey

west flicker
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am i wrong

gusty oracle
cedar lance
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hi chemist and tied

opal citrus
west flicker
opal citrus
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49 + 18 is so tuff

cedar lance
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im bored

west flicker
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that was not a "simple" calculus problem bro

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there's no way i remember trig identities

opal citrus
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8th grade

gusty oracle
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I like math

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im just behind

trim pike
west flicker
trim pike
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That was trig identities

west flicker
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need to find a midpoint? take the derivative and set it to 0

cedar lance
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hey chemist

trim pike
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Then integrate

gusty oracle
west flicker
opal citrus
trim pike
cedar lance
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what kinds or types of units and templates can i add to any hoi4 mod?

west flicker
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i originally did sin^2x = 2sinxcosx but that's actually sin2x not sin^2x
that's why i said u = cosx initially

gusty oracle
west flicker
opal citrus
trim pike
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My school has booklet for all formulas and identities

west flicker
west flicker
opal citrus
west flicker
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so did i

trim pike
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Basic trig identities basic calc substitutions basic formulas

west flicker
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next question

trim pike
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Its really helpful irl when i solve stuff

west flicker
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give me something harder

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calc-wise

trim pike
west flicker
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yes

trim pike
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Give me a sec

opal citrus
trim pike
west flicker
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yep

opal citrus
west flicker
gusty oracle
trim pike
gusty oracle
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why cant we have standardized math course names

west flicker
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if i can't do math in my head it isn't real

opal citrus
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so i would fail this class

west flicker
opal citrus
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i cant even beat clutterfunk

trim pike
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(cos x)dy/dx + y sin x = cos^2 x

west flicker
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what the hell is a chord

opal citrus
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i was like 1% away from getting a easy demon

heavy vigil
west flicker
opal citrus
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i have 98% on the nightmare

trim pike
opal citrus
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cant even get a easy demon smh

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10 thousand attempts on the nightmare over 2 years

trim pike
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Wdym

west flicker
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ok i might actually not remember how to bernoulli

trim pike
heavy vigil
west flicker
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integrating factor is e^[integral of (some function)dx] right

trim pike
gusty oracle
heavy vigil
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wont ask further then

trim pike
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@west flicker

west flicker
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oh ok

gusty oracle
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just calc me

trim pike
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See this is why they provide us with the booket

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Its super useful

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Not a handicap

lone sail
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you can do this focus while having a monarchy

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west flicker
lone sail
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least low effort paradox dlc

opal citrus
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guys what is 83 - 60 + 32 - 56 + 1 + 20 + 30 + 11 + 1 + 5

west flicker
silk fern
craggy trail
gusty oracle
opal citrus
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how can i save france from this

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this is my 3rd time playing hoi4

west flicker
opal citrus
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it's like

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6 7

opal citrus
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hmm this a pickle

trim pike
trim pike
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Well idk might be right but theres a simpler form

west flicker
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what's the simpler form

trim pike
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See if ur trig identities get u somewhere

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But u shouldn’t need to use it

gusty oracle
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im cooked

west flicker
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can't simplify that which means i got it wrong

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and i am considering 2 fractions = less simple than 1 fraction

opal citrus
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im cooked

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atp i would need bittersteel to save this

west flicker
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cause the other equivalent is 0.25secx + 0.5sinx + C1

west flicker
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bro did not maintain the balance of power

opal citrus
hoary mortar
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skilissu

opal citrus
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and the communists revolted

west flicker
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yeah you gotta keep that balance of power

opal citrus
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i did EVERYTHING i could to bring stability back up

west flicker
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i have only played france like never

opal citrus
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and its alr 1939

west flicker
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so

opal citrus
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im so cooked

west flicker
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probably harder than im making it sound

opal citrus
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i think i lost

west flicker
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gg

trim pike
west flicker
trim pike
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and then try again to see if u can get it

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y=x(cosx+c)

west flicker
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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is left side integral dx or dy

trim pike
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none ur solving an ode

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u should have no dy or dx left

west flicker
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no i mean after integration factor

trim pike
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oh

west flicker
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it's product rule with respect to what var

opal citrus
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i just switched to portugal

trim pike
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after that ur left side becomes dy(integrating factor here)/dx

opal citrus
opal citrus
gusty oracle
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which basically after integrating turns into y (integrating factor)

west flicker
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ok backtracking time

trim pike
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its not that hard ur probably overthinking

heavy vigil
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rebrand to math general fr

west flicker
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it's cause i refuse to grab paper

gusty oracle
opal citrus
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and remeber that the middle term evaporates bcs of some stuff that will take me too long to explain

trim pike
west flicker
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nahh

trim pike
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paper is big deal in math

west flicker
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in a specific location too

gusty oracle
heavy vigil
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Have fun

trim pike
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!ban @gusty oracle

west flicker
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oh you know

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i did not divide to get y'

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that'd be a bit of a problem for my integrating factor huh

opal citrus
trim pike
west flicker
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in your dreams

gusty oracle
opal citrus
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hes too sigma

trim pike
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thats not actual ban cmd

west flicker
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you just got played bro

trim pike
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also i gtg

opal citrus
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rest in peace

opal citrus
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no more math general

trim pike
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!mute @opal citrus 67h

gusty oracle
opal citrus
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try to solve it ill be back in less than an hr

opal citrus
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then dont post it

west flicker
# trim pike also i gtg

too bad.

y'cosx + ysinx = cos^2x
y' + ytanx = ycosx
mu = e^tanxdx = secx

(ysecx)'dx = dx
ysecx = x + C
y = xcosx + C1

opal citrus
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i want donuts

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theres some downstairs but i dont wanna wake my dad

dusky burrow
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Calculus support I see

opal citrus
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im starving

west flicker
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nah i straight up forgot to divide by cosx (to get y') that's why i got the funky answer

opal citrus
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are u a mathmetician]

west flicker
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there's some unreal shit later on

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like

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they be out here making you invent math

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that ain't real

opal citrus
west flicker
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real analysis aint real bro

opal citrus
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shes seen everything

west flicker
gusty oracle
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its 10:56

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should I sleep or nah

opal citrus
west flicker
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i agree with e

opal citrus
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and i wan donuts

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buti would have to go down the stairs

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this is a tough descision

heavy vigil
west flicker
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put in the steps bro

gusty oracle
heavy vigil
opal citrus
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bro my stairs look like that one roblox game that albertstuff kept getting sent to

dusky burrow
opal citrus
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ts is what my stairs look like rn

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also its raining rlly bad

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this is a recipe for epstein to get me when i get to my donuts

gusty oracle
opal citrus
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no hes alive i saw him at whataburger the other day

trim pike
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Wrong

west flicker
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what

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not wrong

trim pike
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U forgot to multiply the cos into the c lmao

west flicker
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i said C1

opal citrus
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NOO

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HES BACK

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NOT MATH AGAIN

trim pike
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Cos is not linear so it changes c

trim pike
west flicker
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i know

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that's why i said C1

trim pike
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U cant

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C1 indicates a constant

west flicker
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pfft you'er right

opal citrus
trim pike
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If cos x times a constant is not a constant

dusky burrow
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Differential equations I see?

west flicker
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y = xcosx + Ccosx

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fine

dusky burrow
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Yeah

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That's really important

west flicker
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though i still maintain it's constant for any singularly evaluated value of x

gusty oracle
dusky burrow
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Say you integrate y with respect to dx or something

opal citrus
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are yall like albert enstein and aristotle debating math rn

west flicker
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no

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i think you mean socrates and plato

gusty oracle
opal citrus
west flicker
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u got the pronunciation right therefore u know

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