hoi4-general

[fervent stone]

real

and im not even nazi

[gusty oracle]

Japan lost that one

[fervent stone]

im mexican

[random quiver]

i had the black sun

[fervent stone]

how im supposed to

[random quiver]

and then cool Japan flag

[fervent stone]

you know

discriminate

[random quiver]

Wanna see cool Japan flag?

[fervent stone]

im literally mexican

[gusty oracle]

interesting logic

[fervent stone]

im humble for obligation

[random quiver]

Cool Japan flag

[fervent stone]

WHAT THE HELL

[random quiver]

Any mods to put this ingame

[fervent stone]

SS

Nah nah nah

mod why i was warned and him not

[random quiver]

Ultra Japan

[clear dagger]

if Burgundy and Oreo had a collab

[random quiver]

Cuz it's a cool flag

[deft agate]

12 year olds political opinion

[fervent stone]

yo you know what are you doing

[random quiver]

Nah they need a hammer and sickle too

Also is there a path to make Japan non racist

[fervent stone]

i almost said me but my first account was banned for saying i was 8 years old

so no

[random quiver]

I don't wanna play racist countries

It's inefficient

[fervent stone]

i do

racist countries are funnier in hoi4

[deft agate]

Yeah

[random quiver]

Eh

[fervent stone]

in real life...

[deft agate]

Goringia

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/animaniacs-warner-bros-yakko-geography-the-world-gif-16800185

[fervent stone]

no so much fun

[random quiver]

I played Christian ussr

[fervent stone]

why he isnt pointing at US and pints in africa

whats the sense of this help

[random quiver]

Cuz it's American propaganda

[clear dagger]

because a gif cant be 3 minutes long

[deft agate]

Oh ik that one

Third roman Empire

Funny asf

[fervent stone]

it can

what is

asf

[random quiver]

Nah I'm not good enough to form it

i put patriarch of Russia

I have no idea how I would form third Rome

[fervent stone]

guys

at what number of warns

i will be banned

i have 2

[random quiver]

3

Why are u warned

[fervent stone]

💀

[random quiver]

I haven't got one warning

[fervent stone]

first

i had a hans landa pfp

2

antisemitism

[random quiver]

Bruh

That's not fair

[fervent stone]

you mean im at 1 warn from being warned?!

and

[random quiver]

I think

[fervent stone]

banned

[random quiver]

This is why I hate mods

[fervent stone]

nah this is bullshit

[random quiver]

We fought for free speech

[fervent stone]

i like this server im not even a nazi

or antisemitic

or something

[random quiver]

also u can make an alt account

if u get banned

[fervent stone]

yeah but i like hoi4

and why mods are so strict

[random quiver]

Idk

I gotta cross the Great Wall of Russia

And I can't

[trim pike]

What topic lol

[fervent stone]

mods touch grass sometimes?

[trim pike]

Correct

[fervent stone]

:v

[trim pike]

Pdx rules

Server is owned by a company

[craggy trail]

[random quiver]

Barbarossa turned into a Cold War

[fervent stone]

yeah but why "antisemitic"

[random quiver]

should i retreat ?

[fervent stone]

its a company yes but i only talk bout hoi4

[random quiver]

so I can then counter attack across the river

[fervent stone]

encirclement

[trim pike]

Free speech does not apply to discord servers

[craggy trail]

If it’s the best course of action, probably take it

[trim pike]

U made antisemitic remarks

[fervent stone]

naval invasion in your coast

[trim pike]

U can dm @grizzled delta

[random quiver]

I can't cross the river

[trim pike]

If u have problems with the warn

[random quiver]

Anywhere

[fervent stone]

remarks?

[random quiver]

Yeah u don't like Zionism

[craggy trail]

Not even with planning bonus?

[random quiver]

so they classify you as antisemetic

[trim pike]

Lets go back to hoi4

[random quiver]

Yeah

[jolly kettle]

Huh, looks like Germany helped japan a lil bit, never seen this before

[trim pike]

Whats ur math hw about

[fervent stone]

i just said i dont like th jews the song when hilter retreats hating jews and start loving jews

[random quiver]

They're entrenched across a large river

[fervent stone]

thats not antisemitic

[trim pike]

💀

[fervent stone]

at the end of the song señor hilter loves jews

[trim pike]

Alr thats it

[fervent stone]

but

im not talking bout politics

anymore

[random quiver]

I can't even push Romania 😭

[fervent stone]

cuz mods can ban me

so ill wait to talk somethin interesting

[random quiver]

Who do u think is in the board?

The big investors?

[fervent stone]

in the board?

ohhhh

the jews

[random quiver]

Board of directors

[fervent stone]

thats it

im leaving

[random quiver]

What

[trim pike]

Hey btw whats ur math hw about

[jolly kettle]

oh god this feels good

[random quiver]

Algebra and geometry

[craggy trail]

The square root of 546 is 23.36664289109

[random quiver]

Very useful indeed

[trim pike]

Ah i see

There

Problem dealt with

[craggy trail]

Japan rework looks very promising

[clear dagger]

omfg...

for some dumb reason my super heavy railgun decided to travel to romania via the BALTIC SEA

and SUNK

[trim pike]

Samee

[clear dagger]

like wtf

[trim pike]

My railguns always take the sea

[craggy trail]

Mmm… I guess it was “off the rails”

[trim pike]

Without considering like maybe to wait

and theyre paper fragile

A single sunk convoy means the entire thing is gone

[trim pike]

*bam dum tsss

[craggy trail]

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[fallen vigil]

WHOLE LOTTA GREEN

[jolly kettle]

?????????????

Why?

I see. Congo in a civil war, NA congo in Allies, this congo in Japans faction

[dusky burrow]

Belgium got really really upset at Kasa-Vubu

[misty fossil]

you need some oil

time to oil up

[fallen vigil]

Shut up

[misty fossil]

how do you have no oil as the uk though

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you do need to oil up

[fallen vigil]

i dont know

[dusky burrow]

Well

Iran seems to have flipped communist

Iraq might have rescinded rights

Thus you might not have any oil

[misty fossil]

research the refining tech thing and ground some ships

smh

[dusky burrow]

(something about mexico too probably)

[misty fossil]

ive never had to import oil as the uk

[dusky burrow]

I've had to before, even when I got Iranian and Afghan oil concessions

So yeah, your mileage may vary

[dry abyss]

i love mechanized

i love torturing people in mp lobbies with it

[heavy vigil]

such a mixed bag

you need to fight the people who only know how to fight other noob players with low hardness

[plush drift]

I think ai is abit... broken

[heavy vigil]

otherwise its just mid

but itll def win vs howi meds

[plush drift]

like wtf

[heavy vigil]

looks fine ?

theyre unable to properly assign generals but thatll always happen at that div count

[plush drift]

OH MY PC

IT STARTED WAR WITH RUSSIA IN 2014

WHAT THE

ERM

[dry abyss]

how many divs?😭

[plush drift]

Bazillion

[dry abyss]

[plush drift]

WW3 😭

WITHOUT EVEN A WARGOAL

ERM

[dry abyss]

no casus beli -2 stab

[plush drift]

ukr is lowkey too op

[fallen vigil]

what a map

[dry abyss]

show how much manpower in the field

[plush drift]

6m manpower

[dry abyss]

naur

[plush drift]

world is lowkey cooked

holy lah

lag

[deft agate]

Bro Just picked up every Mf that can hold a Gun

[dry abyss]

btw this is 15% of all of ukraine

[bright forum]

Whoever released this DLC without bug testing needs to be nuked. I literally just lost the ability to deploy units because I took a focus that makes this tiny island my capital.

JAPAN IS THE CONTROLLER OF MY CAPITAL.

MY CAPITAL IS THIS BLOODY ISLAND.

AND MY ALLY, JAPAN, OWNS IT.

[bright forum]

This might genuinely be the dumbest bug I've ever encountered in HOI4. Yeah Danzig for Slovakia not being possible if you do the "Befriend Czechoslovakia" focus is one thing, but literally locking you out of playing units because you did a focus is absurd.

[misty fossil]

see the united states?

i dont want to

[bright forum]

Best part? Even when you DO get control of the islands, you still can't place any troops on the mainland...

[plush drift]

crimea has the same brain damage

[heavy vigil]

Yeah you cant do it because poland doesnt have zaolzie

Historically their expansionists ideas only really took off after being given zaolzie

[heavy vigil]

(expansionist southwards)

[bright forum]

This was confirmed as a bug when I made the forum post. Despite Befriend Czechoslovakia being a prerequisite for Danzig for Slovakia, you cannot actually do Danzig for Slovakia if you do that line.

Also, I think you're missing the way more important point which is that I cannot deploy any units because my capital is an island I do not control.

[fickle cove]

what is this mod?

[plush drift]

across the dnieper

with toolpack

5 iq

erm

[jolly kettle]

actually a clean peace deal

When did they add these "occupation zone" names

[bright forum]

Genuinely the worst DLC ever released.

[plush drift]

why cant they move on an island that doent even have anyone on it

[fickle cove]

oh tysm

and it's about ukraine and russia right?

[bright forum]

Also can someone tell me how to upload multiple things at once to the Paradox forums? I don't know how to upload multiple attachments at once.

[heavy vigil]

Howd the island thing happen

[bright forum]

I did the focus Shaheed And Swaraj.

AKA: The worst focus ever made in the history of HOI4.

I am not kidding.

[clear dagger]

what makes a state become a colony state?

[bright forum]

Even when you DO get the islands, you can't deploy troops on mainland India because whoever made this DLC was high on bath salts instead of testing the most basic crap.

[plush drift]

and for making ukraine start ww3

[heavy vigil]

Idk what that does

Must be indian focus tree or something

[clear dagger]

i annexed a country and most of its states i have resistance and compliance and what not but theres 1 state thats just called a "colony state"

[fallow grove]

Playing British raj 💔

[bright forum]

Yes...it obviously is the Indian focus tree.

[heavy vigil]

Well you were talking about germany

So in context it isnt

Does it move your capital to like andaman or something

[fickle cove]

are you at war with all your neighbours 😭

[bright forum]

No offence intended, but you read literally the first part of my sentence and not anything I wrote around it. I pretty clearly was not complaining about the Germany bug, but the India bug.

[plush drift]

ai has brain damage

[fickle cove]

why

[heavy vigil]

Oh i didnt see this is all 😭

I just read the rest

You can deploy units

[heavy vigil]

Just only on the island

[bright forum]

...

[heavy vigil]

Which you dont have

But it shows that you have it

So now you have to like invade it

[bright forum]

Invade...my faction member who I am in a war with?

[heavy vigil]

Or maybe its controlled but not owned by you or something dumb

[plush drift]

ai literally is insane

[bright forum]

It's 100% occupied by Japan according to the occupation breakdown.

[heavy vigil]

Yeah idk how to help sorry

[bright forum]

Get whatever contacts you have at Paradox and tell them to test their DLCs for more than 8 seconds before releasing them?

[heavy vigil]

Try asking them for control of it

[heavy vigil]

I dont work for paradox im just a helper

[bright forum]

Can't, I can ask for control of all sorts of crap but not MY CAPITAL.

[heavy vigil]

Im just a little guy

[fickle cove]

WTF

[bright forum]

Get contacts at Paradox and tell them to test their damn DLC for more than 8 seconds before releasing it.

[fickle cove]

why did you say the ai has brain damage tho

[bright forum]

This type of shit should have been caught the first time they playtested.

"Oh my god this tiny focus means you cannot deploy on mainland India and doesn't hand control over fix fix fix"

[plush drift]

lemme show u

what it did

[jolly kettle]

[plush drift]

my game crashed

it annexed everyon

somehow

[fickle cove]

honestly

the mod you're playing is literally this song

lemme find it

[plush drift]

erm

ai is literally crazy

[jolly kettle]

I wish the AI wasn't so dumb lol

After Germany peace deal popped, Nationalist spain (who wasn't in axis) immediately joined Japans Faction and joined the war

[plush drift]

ai is too op

[jolly kettle]

Like.... Japan is almost capped

Dog this is literally a losing war

[fickle cove]

can't find it

whatever

[jolly kettle]

Also somehow, I, as Australia, have second most warscore against Japs, second only to China (their 19% vs my 16%)

[plush drift]

everyone is rebelling

wha

[fickle cove]

@plush drift dude the mod you're playing is literally this song

[plush drift]

ok it fully crashed

[fickle cove]

https://youtu.be/C_j9UGnDcn4?si=pF7aZsK0G3s4MjQJ

[plush drift]

erm

[fickle cove]

you may or may not know it from mapping videos (especially if it's about ukraine and/or russia)

[plush drift]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-ban-this-guy-can-we-ban-this-guy-mod-moderator-moderators-gif-4656455223274005082

[fickle cove]

bro what did i do 😭

[plush drift]

something

😭

u made my gaem crash

fully

[fickle cove]

wasn't me

[plush drift]

it was u

😭

[fickle cove]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-speechbubble-discord-fish-meme-gif-802733525061050978

[jolly kettle]

Oh good lord this is satisfying

[winged seal]

average air experience in 1951

[fickle cove]

is there a hoi4 mod which is just hoi4 but without navy and airforce lol

i HATE navy

[sick pawn]

Uhh, I doubt it

[fickle cove]

why didn't people think of that :(

[sick pawn]

Idk how you'd even go anout doing that

[fickle cove]

ok is there a hoi4 mod where the leaders are women

[sick pawn]

If you have dlcs you can disable those

[sick pawn]

Some

[fickle cove]

ik there's already a few possible women leaders in the game

but still

[sick pawn]

I know there was a female Mussolini mod on the front page a while back

Idk why you'd want that, but to each their own

[fickle cove]

found it

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[fickle cove]

hi

[cedar lance]

wassup Dark?

[misty fossil]

what are those planes

[misty fossil]

tesla and einstein pfp
hates navy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213539866889945109/1402236059617722419/attachment.gif

I LOVE NAVY RAAHHH

[fair horizon]

boats <3

[fickle cove]

what do those have to do with each other

[sick pawn]

Navy is fun

[fickle cove]

teach it to me quickly then

(pls)

[misty fossil]

navy is so easy tbh

[sick pawn]

I know what to do to succeed with it, I don't know how to explain it

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0wgBJbBbPQ&pp=ygUPaG9pNCBuYXZ5IGd1aWRl

this is with a navy rework mod but you can pull of things like this

use this as your goalpost

[sick pawn]

But if you don't want to engage with it just build naval bombers

[fickle cove]

42 mins is crazy

[misty fossil]

well the longer the more in depth

[fickle cove]

that's it?

[misty fossil]

id take a 6 hour longg tutorial over a 10 minutes one

[misty fossil]

no

the pacific ocean exists (sadly)

and naval bombers dont contribute to naval supremacy

[sick pawn]

Ye

But as a basic for destroying a navy it's fine

[misty fossil]

you need naval supremacy for pretty much anything related to oceans

except for raiding

[fickle cove]

so how do i get naval supremacy and how do i do naval invasions?

or actually, how do i do paratrooper invasions? i'm considering just doing that every time lol

[misty fossil]

go to the video...

give yourself some patience to actually learn

[frank briar]

whats the max amount of fighters i can group together without getting command inefficiencies

[fickle cove]

my honest reaction

[heavy vigil]

i can flex my navy.....

[misty fossil]

show

[misty fossil]

my honest reaction

[heavy vigil]

ive shown it before 1 sec

[misty fossil]

oh

[sick pawn]

Ohh that

[fickle cove]

my honest reaction

[sick pawn]

Ye, genuinely insanse Screenshots

[heavy vigil]

@fickle cove light attack is good

(i nuked their subs in like a few months as you can see by the first screenshot lol)

[jolly kettle]

Build LCs

[sick pawn]

It won't load for me :[

[jolly kettle]

It's the path I was put on, and it's doing work

[sick pawn]

But I know that there were some insane battles in there

[heavy vigil]

I should do that playthrough again

[fickle cove]

what's that?

[heavy vigil]

Was fun

[fickle cove]

what's that?

[heavy vigil]

Naval battles

[jolly kettle]

light cruisers

[heavy vigil]

When designing a ship

Look at the stats

[fickle cove]

i mean light attack

[fickle cove]

i never design things lol

just produce them

[heavy vigil]

Ah

You should

[fickle cove]

ok and what exactly are they?

[jolly kettle]

cruiser hull + stack light attack and lightly armor it (so it's a light cruiser and not a heavy or armored or battle cruiser)

Casey will probably be able to explain better, but as I understand it

The light attack shreds their screens and then you just mess up their capitals

[fickle cove]

you're already not speaking english anymore for me lol

soz but i really don't know anything about navy stuff in general

hoi4 or irl

[jolly kettle]

Nah I get it

Do you have mtg

[fickle cove]

what's that

[jolly kettle]

man the guns

dlc

I think it's the one that has ship designer

[fickle cove]

no

probably not

[jolly kettle]

oh, then I don't even think you can make ship templates

I think it's more or less how it was before mtg

[frank briar]

how many fighters can i gruppe together

without getting inefficientcies

[jolly kettle]

I'm not sure what the naval research screen was like pre-mtg

[frank briar]

4? 8?

[jolly kettle]

been a while

[frank briar]

the manual wont tell me

[jolly kettle]

BUt, probably research whatever ship gives most light attack and isn't a capital

and just pump out a lot of those

[drifting kiln]

bro who are you playing as

and why are you in 1980 and how does germany own ALL of europe??

[jolly kettle]

actually yeah I'm curious too, I didn't notice at first

[heavy vigil]

They had world annexed + max buffs

From 1936

Vs unbuffed iceland

[drifting kiln]

dam

why are you playing that

[jolly kettle]

Wait did you console command the annexation for them?

[heavy vigil]

For fun?

[heavy vigil]

Yes with cores

[drifting kiln]

its not fun though

[jolly kettle]

ahhhhhhh okay

[heavy vigil]

At least toolpacked it

I had fun

[jolly kettle]

if he has fun it's fun

[drifting kiln]

nah I dont beleive him

[jolly kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[heavy vigil]

If i didnt have fun i wouldnt have played

[drifting kiln]

ok bro we we we we we will

[sick pawn]

To each their own

If Casey finds it fun that's it

[drifting kiln]

nah he plays warthunder aswell hes just a psychopath

[sick pawn]

It might not be fun for you, that can be true

But fr just let others do what they like

[drifting kiln]

no I must stop him

Im going to find him

[sick pawn]

[sick pawn]

Good luck I suppose

Idk

[radiant hawk]

No you want max armour

[jolly kettle]

Ironically, the nicest people I know play Warthunder

[drifting kiln]

are you sure about that bro..

[radiant hawk]

The difference between Light cruiser and heavy cruiser isn’t armour it’s the gun

[jolly kettle]

100000%

[radiant hawk]

Keeping to light cruiser guns makes it light cruiser

[drifting kiln]

you clearly never seen the game chat

[jolly kettle]

oh I thought it was the armor

[velvet pewter]

i have 53 hours in hoi4 and im downloading blackice

[drifting kiln]

or maybe thats just me idk

[radiant hawk]

Using a heavy cruiser gun makes it a heavy cruisers

[jolly kettle]

and the armor dictated what gun could go on

my bad, mix up

[misty fossil]

light cruisers are like

[radiant hawk]

And heavy cruisers are the worst ship the game

[misty fossil]

they do a lot of light attack

[heavy vigil]

Nah

[misty fossil]

i havent got a use for heavy cruisers at all

[jolly kettle]

No, I've seen the toxicity. I'm aware.

Just odd that some of the most genuine kind humans I know also play it lol

[heavy vigil]

Theyre great for shore

And comparable to CLs

[misty fossil]

best its just to serve as temporary replacement for absent battleships

to be replaced once i do got those battleships

[sick pawn]

Almost as if there are people who play it who are nice, and some aren't

[heavy vigil]

This game is bad

[sick pawn]

And that it has nothing to do with the game itself

[heavy vigil]

Im gonna have to cheat to get rid of a debuff

[misty fossil]

the ever so humble vanilla navy rework:

what debuff

[jolly kettle]

Fair point

[misty fossil]

im a bad person /s

[drifting kiln]

you should be banned for this @solemn topaz

[misty fossil]

what

[drifting kiln]

bad people arent allowed here

[proud tapir]

Sorry buddy

we gotta kill you now

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-cat-owl-owl-cat-cat-owl-gif-15541720140384143752

[frank briar]

kick me now

[jolly kettle]

Dang, honestly Australia game was really fun. If they got a tree rework they'd probably be my fave country to play

[misty fossil]

australia is in a pretty interesting geographic position

[jolly kettle]

That definitely contributed lol

[fair horizon]

agree, give me a way to expand as ahistorical australia

[sudden grotto]

wellerman, cover by Lil Cat

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jam-nod-pet-kitty-gif-17932554

[fallen vigil]

has anyone ever seen AI ethiopia beat AI italy??

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[fallen vigil]

ive never seen it

[obtuse token]

кто в хойку на пиратке

[sudden thistle]

It’s rare

[jolly kettle]

Happens more often with historical off in my experience

Italy bungles it way more often

[frank briar]

to what

[heavy vigil]

tank

[frank briar]

irl we won ww1 singlehandedly, plus played the key role in winning ww2

[jolly kettle]

To me liking the playthrough so much

[heavy vigil]

new zealand is a better australia btw

more research slots, a formable

similar eco

[frank briar]

really?

[jolly kettle]

Yeah wait really

Also

[heavy vigil]

well yeah they can get more

[jolly kettle]

Why

[frank briar]

kiwis are our sidekicks

they think theyre smarter than us irl but they actually arent

[heavy vigil]

operation successful

[sudden thistle]

Ur at war with a few people btw

[heavy vigil]

Ty i didnt notice

[heavy vigil]

Chris should i get a puppet?

[sudden thistle]

Yes

Puppet all of North America

[heavy vigil]

Either i puppet canada in the one state i have

Or i build a facility there

And have a few more dockyards/factories available

[sudden thistle]

Nuclear facility

Trust me

[heavy vigil]

I dont think i have a use for it sadly

[sudden thistle]

Germany shall bow down to the mighty Icelandic menace 🗣️

[heavy vigil]

I mean i am making my own tanks

They better be scared

[fair horizon]

It gets 6 research slots?

[heavy vigil]

Yes if independant

[fair horizon]

Intresting, its reources and manpower is still worse though

[drifting kiln]

back at it again are u bro

[heavy vigil]

You core taiwan

[heavy vigil]

Yeah i said it in chat before

I did that other run like

A year ago

Maybe more

[drifting kiln]

i didnt read your chats my brother

[heavy vigil]

dw

[analog ivy]

andrew tate will save us

[drifting kiln]

for romani?

[proud tapir]

+5% factory output

National spirit:
Limited voting rights for women
-10% base stability

🙏

[copper cobalt]

Should have human trafficker trait with weekly manpower buff

[drifting kiln]

+100% stability you mean

[proud tapir]

And also the pyramid scheme trait which gives +1 extra resource in trade and +15% resource gain

But to balance it out

ever so often an event will pop up where you have to spend pp to avoid getting him arrested by Romanian police

[copper cobalt]

If it's for Romania change king Michael's coup with him

[proud tapir]

King Tates coup

But it should be an early focus, so Romania gets an inner circle mechanic where you can appoint figures such as Joe Rogan, Liver king and his brother as inner circle

Huge buff to the Romanian focus tree

[analog ivy]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the shrek reich is cooked now that cookie is ill 😭

[proud tapir]

is there a prince of terror?

if so, who is it

[lethal ether]

what mod

[icy crescent]

Shrek.
Lives in a swamp.
Looks inside.
Desert.

[analog ivy]

WAIT WHAT IS SHREK DOING???

[proud tapir]

Joe Rogan is the Romanian propaganda minister and gives buffs to stability and war support

dude if i knew how to make mods

this would be fire

[analog ivy]

bro theres even a town called shrekascus

shrekhdad

[proud tapir]

Is there a shrekusalem?

[analog ivy]

definitely not

[proud tapir]

the far far away strip

[low sentinel]

Shrek Reich or something like that

[warped crown]

REVERSE CARD

[strong belfry]

is the armor recon banned in hoi4 mps?

[heavy vigil]

No?

Why would it be

[strong belfry]

isnt armor recon count as space marine?

[heavy vigil]

No

It gives 33% of its stats

And divisional armor is 40% of highest value 60% of the armor is average

[strong belfry]

if i use in my inf is it helps my defence?

[heavy vigil]

Light tanks are already TRASH for space marines

Like they do nothing

[fallen vigil]

bruh is that the paradox building??????

[heavy vigil]

Theyll get pierced

As recon its even less of a thing

[heavy vigil]

It could idk

[drifting kiln]

shrek would never kill 6 million donkeys

[fallen vigil]

wtf is this?? is this a bug in my game or what

[random venture]

might be cooked

https://tenor.com/view/inglorious-basterds-hans-landa-laugh-tarantino-quentin-gif-4569207584934180113

[drifting kiln]

is this twr?

[random venture]

ye

cant play TNO 😭

[heavy vigil]

Wdym

[random venture]

its broken for me

[heavy vigil]

Whats even the issue

[drifting kiln]

tno is bad anyway

[random venture]

the german civil war is inevitable in twr ...

[drifting kiln]

yeah but its not that hard

depending on who u play anyway

[random venture]

gg

i left my own sphere

[drifting kiln]

tragic bro

[random venture]

the ss has infiltraded the goverment

hmm

speer goverment or wehrmacht junta

il make a save so i can play as both

[drifting kiln]

speer is actually a good guy i think

so play as him

[random venture]

wtf

shittiest posistion

im encircled basically

[serene token]

Yeesh

[zinc light]

so hoi4 lategame really isn't fun at all
immovable frontlines, everyone has infinite air, navy and manpower and you basically sit around doing nothing until you maybe finally have some nukes

[slim nexus]

what mod is that?

[candid forge]

RT56

and TFR map

[slim nexus]

thanks

[atomic grove]

it isnt

its another path for india

[random venture]

i won the civil war lets go

[zinc light]

anyways, time to do the papal's super heavy tanks

[random venture]

rip the german sphere tho

[serene token]

There's mods that puts a limit on unit production for NPC's, I think.

[zinc light]

oh that'd be really handy

it's just really boring to endlessly grind against the AI

[heavy vigil]

Playing hist or ahist

For hist the thing is just to delete useless nations

For ahist you should conquer more

[zinc light]

historical rn

[atomic grove]

no

[heavy vigil]

Like central america doesnt matter for hist

[random venture]

current situation

[heavy vigil]

A lot of uk puppets should be axed

And game performance goes up

[atomic grove]

u prob dont find it fun because you're prob getting unlucky with what the ais are choosing

[zinc light]

so how would I go about doing that? just tag over to mexico and console annex everything

[heavy vigil]

Get a mod to do it for you

[fallen vigil]

NO ONE CARES

[heavy vigil]

Theres plenty

[zinc light]

okay

[atomic grove]

dont be surprised if a game of non historical goes into complete chaos and total war or starts ww3 itself

[random venture]

ok

[atomic grove]

why does this look so familiar

[random venture]

maybe you have played this mod before

[atomic grove]

i mean i forgot the mod name for it

i think it was thousand week reich or idk

[random venture]

ye

[fallen vigil]

whens the pacific dlc coming

[atomic grove]

update

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[fallen vigil]

wha

what

[serene token]

Its an update?

Not a dlc?

[atomic grove]

they are just hyping it up by release dev corners

[heavy vigil]

December prob

[atomic grove]

pretty sure its both

releasing a dlc is technically an update

[heavy vigil]

Free update + dlc

At same time

[serene token]

But you have to pay for it.

[heavy vigil]

No

Its a major dlc

[fallen vigil]

yeah i hate this dlc already im not doing allat

[atomic grove]

ik

[heavy vigil]

Historical japan and china will prob be free

[atomic grove]

hopefully it is

[serene token]

Fair.

[heavy vigil]

Like 99% chance

[slim nexus]

blue china

[serene token]

It should just be an add on to WTT

[atomic grove]

because new japan and reworked chinese civil war looks really cool imo

[heavy vigil]

WTT was integrated anyway

[atomic grove]

it would be stupid for them to not release it as free imo since both china and japan played a huge role in ww2

and current focus trees are too small for them

[heavy vigil]

Some guy in the latest updates chat a few weeks ago was arguing the sino-japanese war was a minor front

And i was just like bruh

[slim nexus]

tibet

[atomic grove]

i feel like they should make it for japan to quite literally guaranteed never win against china or even get a bit close to chongqing when going true historical

[serene token]

That would just be sufferable.

[atomic grove]

yes

[heavy vigil]

A player will win

[atomic grove]

yeah

[heavy vigil]

I can tell you now

A player will win

[atomic grove]

with collab govs, that is

[heavy vigil]

Thats already normal

Ofc you do collabs

[atomic grove]

ik

[random venture]

i wonder where they got this image from

[heavy vigil]

Cant wait for the update to make your divisions move out of your contorl

Control*

For realism

[zinc light]

okay I grabbed these two

[atomic grove]

i think they should do that only if ur war support is low

[heavy vigil]

Dont post any images with that symbol on this server

[heavy vigil]

Yeah thatll help

[random venture]

sorry i just wanted to know what movie or whatver that image is from

[zinc light]

thanks 🫶

[random venture]

looks realistic

[heavy vigil]

Dw

[slim nexus]

is johann hiedler actually a leader in gotterdammerung?

[fallen vigil]

yeah this cant be real

no way

[random venture]

i found where the image is from

[fallen vigil]

@heavy vigil helpppp

[heavy vigil]

Rename it

Add like a spacebar space

[fallen vigil]

tyyyy

it worked

[proud tapir]

"Well, sure am i glad we got rid of that evil Hitler dude. Anyways, what did you say you were? A local artist?"

[fallen vigil]

conditional surrender needs to be used more often imo

[zinc light]

"oh Hola Señor Hilter, what brings you to the beautiful country of Argentina?"

[slim nexus]

Ive not played hoi4 in a while

1 in 300 chance of getting him after german military junta wins

im gonna spend some time

[zinc light]

isn't it guaranteed?

[slim nexus]

I stopped playing hoi4 like just as soon as i was 6 hours off of 1k hours

no

[zinc light]

just be fascist argentina before germany loses the civil war

[strong belfry]

gg man

[prisma wharf]

Is that save cursed?, AI Germany is hardcore.

[serene token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/sg93LLXZSAY?si=4tvBdPAmFbx1mgqP

[stone mango]

soooo

HOW ARE THEN NOT DEAD

HOW do they still have manpower they lost almost 5M

[proud tapir]

Why do they have so many divs stacked, shouldnt that like

kill your supplies??

[stone mango]

idk

[proud tapir]

i thought overstack penalties were bigger

[gloomy charm]

Not when its ai

Ai got plot armour

[proud tapir]

how is that fair

[gloomy charm]

Except for soviet union

They always have low supplies

[gloomy charm]

Because they have clanker priviliges

[stone mango]

they just spawn more manpower out of nowhere

and guns

[proud tapir]

Always those darn clankers

Ever since Rosa Sparks refused to sit in the clanker section of the bus
They think they are special

[stone mango]

and look at this

they are still not dead

and they are wining somehow

[proud tapir]

I just find german ai annoying in general

past a specific year they get so op

[stone mango]

i there and good divison that can kill them

or somethoing

[proud tapir]

Idk man im just as lost as you on fighting germany

i only have 150 hours

like, sure i can beat them early war

But past a certain point

they seem unbeatable

They just stack so much stuff everywhere

[cerulean anvil]

classic hoi4 offensive line

[stone mango]

what

oh

[proud tapir]

i have no idea how any sane person i able to breaktrough that

its like the ai dosent have any effects from stacking like more than 20 divs in 1 tile

[gloomy charm]

Frr

[cerulean anvil]

america loves wake island

[proud tapir]

Imo they should make overstack penalties harsher to avoid death stacks that you simply cant breaktrough

[plush drift]

this is 1 second 😭

[sudden grotto]

They Just Need 3 good divs and cas and wake Island Will be worse than the streets of stalingrad

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[paper echo]

👋🏼

[gaunt pawn]

For everyone here just know @wintry atlas is a troll and crasher

[wintry atlas]

wym

i aint done shi

the host comes in and rages and crashes game

[slim nexus]

thats something a crasher and troller would say

[sudden thistle]

Wdym

That’s normal

[cerulean anvil]

holy shit i finally managed to get an allied victory game

[cerulean anvil]

i just had to do was play as canada

[sudden thistle]

How are they hard

[cerulean anvil]

the germans kept capitulating the soviets and italy kept curb stomping over africa

[sudden thistle]

Do u not to anything in Africa?

[snow rain]

if you were playing as any allied nation it's easy to stop one of those

[sudden thistle]

Or put pressure on Germany?

I have never seen a Germany kill Soviets unless I do axis

[snow rain]

2 18w divs on el alamein, italy will never push

[umbral agate]

why does it say not?

[sudden grotto]

Have 6 months passed since the conference?

[umbral agate]

no but

why does it say not

ik how it works but why does it say not :

its nto supposed to say that

[mellow moss]

damn

[cerulean anvil]

i mean if you're playing as usa do you even have time to stop that

[sudden thistle]

Join war in like 39

?

[cerulean anvil]

yeah ig

[umbral agate]

how do u break through china

[bronze mango]

Airforce

Also naval invade qingdao

Also did you change the template?

The starting one sucks

[glad cairn]

Boys help

Im india and I have insane uprising

[versed rapids]

escalate war

[umbral agate]

yep i realised that

[versed rapids]

and once beijing falls, it's really easy to keep going

[glad cairn]

I have martial law, small garrisons(camels instead of cavalry)with MP support equpiment

10 mills

Producing infantry equipment

I cant manage them its so infuratingggg

[bronze mango]

Spies maybe?

[sudden thistle]

It’s not hard to manage wdym

[bronze mango]

Those can help with resistance

[glad cairn]

I have them as well

Still going up

Insane

I did however have problems with doing any famine descisions bc I didnt have enough political power at the time

And I lost the descision before I had enough pp to do anything about it

[ruby flame]

if she dont love you at your angetreten, she dont deserve you at your bereit zum ausrucken

[merry mesa]

why is France burgundy after peace deal lmao

and they have a generic focus tree wtf

[lavish stratus]

Free France survived on a random island trust

[merry mesa]

I found them they're in new foundland

ah, I kill the axis before they could finish the free france focus tree I guess

it is march 1942 that's probably why

[ruby flame]

sigma blum

[umbral agate]

are midget subs good?

[craggy trail]

There is a new sequel to this video released a few days ago
https://youtu.be/GBPXeLvyq5A?si=MY6R49MoV4-__7PG

[craggy trail]

Not really. It's more of a role-playing aspect. Cruiser submarines are a lot better from what I heard along with Anecholic Tiles and Air-Independent Propulsion

[umbral agate]

but i made like 100 as japan with ym 15 dockyards

in 1939

wait no 50

[glad cairn]

bro

what is wrong

[sudden thistle]

Make 3000 of them and put all of them in the med

[sudden thistle]

Kaiserredux?

Ohh I’m blind

Yah idk

[glad cairn]

I have road to 56

[uncut pollen]

its the start of the civil war

[umbral agate]

also i figured out how to break through china

[uncut pollen]

and now i have the best whilhelm back

[icy crescent]

It got modified by +34%.
I assume it was on -69% before.
Nice.

[analog ivy]

why is my pol advisor blue

[icy crescent]

Admiral Thrawn looks good.

[languid patrol]

how does gotterdammmerung change nukes?

[mellow jetty]

He has no air

He's holding his breath until Germany invades

[ripe slate]

The modder saved the GFX with the wrong compression settings

[bronze mango]

Wdym?

[late condor]

anyone else struggling to sealion? I've sealioned so many times before but in the latest updates the UK actually puts up a fight and has like 30 divs in and around london

you used to be able to just slip in the north and badabingbadaboom roll the ball before they can stop you, but, now I get stuck in a port with the inf or spread out with my tanks which get pinned, de supplied and destroyed one by one

[olive willow]

you just need to be fast and use proper divisions

bomb their subs too

with aircraft

[late condor]

yeah I have no problem smashing the navy, no problem getting onto the island, I had my panzerdivs absolutely roll through but it doens't matter how quick your divs are if they literally have 30 around london

[olive willow]

just encircle london then?

[sudden thistle]

Just like

Get a good tank

And planes

[olive willow]

yea

[late condor]

around being the key word, I took portsmouth, dover, london's port, and east anglia's port, air suprem, but again I'm not exaggerating when I mean roughly 30 around it

[olive willow]

just go around it then

[late condor]

my air got chewed to bits during my last two attempts

I cant man, they pin me and out org me because again its like 15 on one tile, 5 on another, 9 coming from somewhere else, another 5 somewhere else

[olive willow]

just try to click on any divisions with your tanks and they should absolutely melt them

even if theyre attacking you, your breakthrough should be insane so its no problem

[late condor]

thats my panzerdiv rn, it has no problem smashing the inf but idk what I'm missing

[olive willow]

id recommend taking away 1 tank and putting in 2 trucks

[late condor]

I had over 1200ish fighters over them, they had around 1400 I think, I had about 900 cas, they had about 400ish I think

you think its the org?

[olive willow]

also your soft attack looks abysmal

what is your tank?

[trim pike]

What’s the design

[trim pike]

Whats ur air design too

[errant remnant]

[late condor]

HOLY LMAO okay idk what I did, only 10 soft attack I think because of daimlerbenz? LMAO what

WHY is it 10

[trim pike]

No no thats ok

But change it to howitzer

[olive willow]

put other special attachments too

[trim pike]

A design has tens of attack

[late condor]

nah bro 15 where it should be at the least right?

[olive willow]

oil tank is pretty useless

[trim pike]

Change cannon to howitzer

[late condor]

I stuck the oil drums on them after the invasion so they didn't run out of fuel if the supply lines got cut

[gilded vessel]

just went from 70k casualties to 1m beacuse i didnt check on a naval invasion for a few seconds

[late condor]

this is the panzer 4

[olive willow]

do you not have howitzer?

[trim pike]

Did u not research arty tech

[late condor]

im making both of them at once but the pz4 is using improved basis and the 3 is using the lst one

[olive willow]

youre using close support gun

[late condor]

that might be it

[uncut pollen]

hoi 4

i love it

[olive willow]

second arty tech gives you howitzer 1

[late condor]

so, use medium howitz on the pz3 ? I don't think I'll be able to mass produce it in the numbers I aim for,

[olive willow]

you absolutely can

you can have 4 tanks by poland

more if youre gooder at the game

[late condor]

I'm pretty fine at murdering the ai I think we all are

its just I cannot get my sealion to work anymore

[olive willow]

have air, kill subs, proper divisions

should hold

and push

[late condor]

cant hold in the ports, I was trying with my panzers but it just wasn't working

I'll try again

400th battle of the Isonzo at this point

[olive willow]

you can push with infantry with like 2 or 3 line artillery in them too

ive done it as the ottomen and it works decently well

[late condor]

so you guys think it was my soft attack, lack of tech there and lack of org?

[olive willow]

soft attack

cuz i usually have double what your showed

[late condor]

do you think I could substitute improved small cannons over medium howitz ?

[olive willow]

why tho?

[late condor]

yeah I usually use my tanks around heavy breakthrough focusing on punching holes

[olive willow]

do you know what the breakthrough stat means?

[late condor]

a mixture of roleplay and worry about production numbers, but, I'm ngl I really did overshoot the mark on this run

[late condor]

roughly it allows them to break through, keep moving and preserve org for the next attack or sm

I think?

[icy crescent]

It is defence when attacking.

[olive willow]

its just defense when someone is attacking you when youre attacking too

when someone pins you, the defense you have is breakthrough

[late condor]

so, my high breakthrough should be saving me against their pinning right ?

[olive willow]

yea

[late condor]

it doesn't work well in ports though right?

or single tiles etc

[olive willow]

wdym

[late condor]

I had like 3 in a port, being attacked by about 8 divs and they were losing pretty quickly unfortunately

[icy crescent]

When you attack sth.
And the enemy attacks you from another tile, you take less damage by their attacking unit.

[late condor]

ohh based on my unit's breakthrough ?

[icy crescent]

Thus being able to damage the unit you are attacking more efficient.

[late condor]

so I want more hard attack for actually punching through a unit?

[ruby flame]

Anyone ever effectively use large airframes for non strat bombing

[icy crescent]

Hard attack is for hard targets.
Like tanks.

[late condor]

I was under the impression that breakthrough was what attacked their org to let you push through, hard attack was divided between soft and breaktrhough when in an attack but changed depending on the type of unit it was attacking (tanks or inf)

interesting to see the perspective change atleast

[icy crescent]

Soft and hard attack doesn't really have anything to do with breakthrough.

[vital hedge]

It’s not really good for anything else

[ruby flame]

Was thinking about big naval bombers maybe

Since they can have 3 torpedos and the flying boat mod

[vital hedge]

Those are worse than medium navs

[icy crescent]

They have style points tho.

[ruby flame]

But medium nav’s don’t exist :(

[vital hedge]

Yeah they do

[ruby flame]

They have to be heavy fighters or something like that

[vital hedge]

And are super meta

[ruby flame]

Which is stinky and stupid

[vital hedge]

Correct

You do 2x lmg first slot

[ruby flame]

Yeah I know the design

It’s just dumb

I wanna make big boat

[vital hedge]

It gets extra missions efficiency from being a fighter

[vital hedge]

Then make shbb

[ruby flame]

that flies

[late condor]

so what soft should i be roughly aiming for? 400? 450 ?

[icy crescent]

As much as you realistically able to support.

And as long as it doesn't drain your entire supply.

Big soft attack good.

[ruby flame]

Yeah max out soft and then breakthrough

Interleaved road wheels gang

[vital quest]

I watched this as it realeased it was cool

[late condor]

yeah my tactic has been daimlerbenz with "good" pz3s and then "better" pz4s being filtered in as I'm invading, then as long as I keep them both cheap I can go ham and overwhelm the soviets, I fielded about 22 pz divs for poland in 39, but thanks for the tips guys

[hidden spruce]

Sadly not for carriers 😢

[uncut pollen]

Hell yeah

China is in a civil war with china

[vital quest]

Tno moment

[vital quest]

Average Chinese weekend

[gleaming acorn]

this looks winable

[worn coral]

today

i will play hoi4

[sudden thistle]

What did bro do

[worn coral]

even the allies are mad at him

[gleaming acorn]

i was playing with console commands