hoi4-general

[random quiver]

U should focus on one place to break through in France

[hybrid galleon]

So much red in France

[random quiver]

To save equipment

[umbral agate]

also

how

the

hell

do i get mroe fuel

[eternal palm]

Trade with iran

[umbral agate]

i ahve had no fuel the whole game

[random quiver]

Who's gonna tell him

[eternal palm]

Just trade bruh

[random quiver]

Germany doesn't deserve oil

[umbral agate]

i have like no tan divs

[hybrid galleon]

And your playing Germany?

[eternal palm]

Ur air force is using fuel too bruh

[umbral agate]

with what civs

do i trade with

[random quiver]

Try to trade or research oil or build infrastructure where u have oil

[random quiver]

BRO

[eternal palm]

💀

[umbral agate]

i couldnt get dutch gold

cuz they didnt join the allies

[random quiver]

DOCKS?

[eternal palm]

Go total mob and take gold

[umbral agate]

i have like 15

[random quiver]

Don't build docks

[umbral agate]

i want to invade the uk at some point

[random quiver]

U cant invade uk if the soviets are in Berlin

[hybrid solstice]

hey guys, would there be a way to make britain drop a guarantee from a country? during the war with the axis i was in the allies, but since italy had a war goal on yugoslavia britain guaranteed them (playing as austro-hungary)

[hybrid galleon]

Nope

[random quiver]

I don't think so

[eternal palm]

Nope

[hybrid solstice]

oh wow

okay

[hybrid galleon]

That’s why I use the remove guarantee mod

[eternal palm]

What you can do is spam justifications on irrelevant countries and drive up the cost of guarantees

[umbral agate]

wait italy is doing smth

[eternal palm]

Thereby preventing a guarantee on your target

[hybrid galleon]

Welcome to one of the biggest running jokes in the community

[hybrid solstice]

the british guaranteeing everything?

[hybrid galleon]

Yep

[hybrid solstice]

:|

welp okay

thanks

[hybrid galleon]

Yep

[umbral agate]

they are not even in berlin

[hybrid galleon]

There are mods that remove the guarantees from countries

[random quiver]

...

[hybrid galleon]

Wait have you capitulated France?

[random quiver]

And ur building docks

[random quiver]

He's losing in France

[hybrid galleon]

You fought the Soviet Union and you haven’t capitulated France?

[random quiver]

I don't think this is winnable

[random quiver]

Its 1940

[umbral agate]

nearly

[random quiver]

They declared on him

[hybrid galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-hell-nah-shake-head-smh-gif-17750944

[umbral agate]

i started pushing

[hybrid galleon]

You can try to cut off that bulge and encircle some reds

[umbral agate]

france capped

[random quiver]

Yay

[umbral agate]

time for lux

[hybrid galleon]

Attack the tile on which the arrows are pointing and try to cut the bulge off

[umbral agate]

ik

[fallen vigil]

chatt what do i take for a world coqnuest

best value for my buck

[sudden thistle]

It is

[eternal palm]

Focus on europe

Then kill russia

[hybrid galleon]

All of Germany and any resource rich tiles

[eternal palm]

Don't bother to puppet, just annex

[hoary pecan]

yes

[random quiver]

Take everything cuz you're greedy

[hybrid galleon]

Consume

[umbral agate]

should i do it?

[hybrid galleon]

Sure why not

If you got the superiority

[umbral agate]

yeah exactly

[hybrid galleon]

Foods on grabbing the ports

[umbral agate]

are these good marines?

this is what i use normally

[eternal palm]

Nah

Remove the arty

[umbral agate]

why?

[eternal palm]

Fill up the width with Marines up until 36

[eternal palm]

They reduce amphib stats

[umbral agate]

k

[eternal palm]

Why have something that reduces the stats you need?

The soft attack isn't worth

[icy crescent]

People really have beef with line artillery.
Add engineers. For even better landing.

[hybrid galleon]

I can tell Britain is in a abysmal state if your able to get superiority in the channel

[hybrid galleon]

Do you have landing craft researched?

[umbral agate]

idk what happened

yes

[hybrid galleon]

Ok

[eternal palm]

For good frigging reason it is ass. Like so bad

[umbral agate]

wait is thast the 2nd one?

[eternal palm]

Germany starts with them

[hybrid galleon]

Just the ability to make ships that can land

[umbral agate]

im cooked soviets broke through and encircled me

[icy crescent]

A classic.

[umbral agate]

i got naval invaded by the soviets bro

[icy crescent]

Surely you had coastal guards.

[umbral agate]

and the landing failed

[icy crescent]

Cheap divisions.

[umbral agate]

how

great

[hybrid galleon]

It was looking so good

[umbral agate]

im put this on disaster saves

[sudden thistle]

Rip

[umbral agate]

its not the worst

ive seen way worse

[umbral agate]

how do i take like a clean screenshot

without anything

[sudden thistle]

Use pc for screenshot

[umbral agate]

?

i mean like without the bubbles

[icy crescent]

I believe it was F10 + CTRL for a full map screenshot.
Not sure tho.

And not sure where it gets saved.

[umbral agate]

yeah icba for that then

[zenith imp]

man it sucks being a hoi4 mobile player

they should at least make the game free on playstore

[icy crescent]

Yeah, F10 + CTRL gives me this type of screenshot.

[hybrid galleon]

F-12

[hybrid solstice]

guys, if i do a war goal for a core state will the guaranteeing countries activate?

[edgy anvil]

I hate Iran 🗣️

[drifting grove]

are you people mad about the new hoi4 dlc news or are you blind?

[icy crescent]

It still shows divisions and attacks.

[solemn bay]

please release thenext dlc, paradox, i'm parched

[hybrid galleon]

Aight

[hybrid galleon]

GOE came out o March 4th calm down

[solemn bay]

I NEED

[hybrid galleon]

No No! You don’t you can wait a few more months

[icy crescent]

Do this achievement instead.

[solemn bay]

Hmm

[icy crescent]

40% fighting, 60% waiting for 10 Battleships and Carriers to be built.

The 36 carrier is cheaper than the 22 btw.

[zenith imp]

f12 gives you a steam ss

[sudden thistle]

Doesn’t seem that hard

[solemn bay]

That's surprising, I would've thought the 22 is cheaper

[solemn bay]

2 decades of waiting...probably

[icy crescent]

It's not.
Just attack Costa Rica and Ecuador first to avoid guarantees.

[random quiver]

JAPAN FOCUS TREE

[sudden thistle]

Does Columbia atleast have a focus tree

[icy crescent]

Ha, good one.

[random quiver]

JS ANNOUNCED

Imperial influence mechanic

[icy crescent]

They have the fancy formable.
Take it or leave it.

[sudden thistle]

U just now noticed?

It has been announced for a month or two

[random quiver]

I got the notification now

[random quiver]

Not that

[sudden thistle]

Just officially today

[random quiver]

The actual focus tree

[icy crescent]

You can combine the Gran Columbia achievement with this one too.

[random quiver]

Ts is bad

[zenith imp]

why are textures so low quality

[icy crescent]

Because photo.

[random quiver]

The main front is great

[icy crescent]

Gz. :o
Only one Iran achievement left.

[jovial bough]

what nation should i play?

[icy crescent]

You new?
Collected experience already?

[crisp viper]

Afghanistan

[jovial bough]

ok

[icy crescent]

Difiicult nation tho.

Romania is nice.

With Balkan Dominance.

[jovial bough]

vanilla romania is boring

[icy crescent]

Everyone is entitled of an opinion.

[eternal palm]

Even if they're wrong

[icy crescent]

Peru has a double formable.
This is unique. Somewhat.

[icy crescent]

It's not wrong if I actually enjoy it.

[jovial bough]

masochist

[serene token]

So you have to be each nation?

[icy crescent]

What part of Romania is making me a maso?
Good starting industry, some manpower.
Lacks extra cores, agree. But easy early conquest.

[icy crescent]

You have to be one of these nations, yeah.

[rustic python]

im getting the host has another version of the game error altough my friend and i have the same checksum and no mods enabled

[icy crescent]

But the Gran Columbia one is Columbia.

[serene token]

Easy achievement

[icy crescent]

It is.
But nobody does it.

[jovial bough]

its just boring, focus tree ends in 1940-1941

[icy crescent]

0,5%.
Could be upscaled to 2,5% if the first and easiest achievement only has 20%.

[silk tide]

I really really really hope paradox also reworks the usa, im certain they will tho

[icy crescent]

Major Nation Player mindset.

[jovial bough]

I dont play majors

[icy crescent]

Yeah, well now you destroyed my argumentation.

[serene token]

Nah, Ireland has been neglected for a long time

[icy crescent]

Unfortunately the 1939 start doesn't support this achievement.

[serene token]

Turn Germany focus onto the civil war path.

[silk tide]

Ireland?

[serene token]

Yea

[silk tide]

Well paradox has some work to do in europe still so i hope one day ireland will get a rework

[serene token]

Yea

[silk tide]

All im waiting for in europe is albania

[icy crescent]

I actually don't know if there is a tension limit for fascist nations sending volunteers to a non-alligned nation.

[slim nexus]

Brother no, they need to spend time working on actually interesting nations its a ww2 game ireland did nothing in ww2

[silk tide]

Yes i know

[icy crescent]

And idk if you're even able to get 24 divisions before that.
Gotta rush the political focus to get the army XP guy to create 1 battalion divisions.

[silk tide]

Thats quite self explanatory

[serene token]

You can send volunteers into the Spanish Civil War.

I don't think Spain generates a lot of Tension

[icy crescent]

Alrighty.

It's about the overall tension.

Works with Peru and Venezuela then, I guess.

[rustic python]

how do i use scorched earth?

[patent thistle]

very cursed-

[serene token]

Like how do you enact it, or what is its purpose?

[rustic python]

yes how do i enact it

[icy crescent]

You need the one DLC that allows scorched earth.
When you start losing control of a state, click the state.
There should be an option on the state information.

[rustic python]

oh nice thanks

and what effects does it have?

[icy crescent]

It damages rails and supply hubs.

[serene token]

Do it then your retreating

*when

[icy crescent]

And supply hubs take much time to repair.

[rustic python]

okay good thank you guys

is it per state or per whole region

[icy crescent]

State.

[rustic python]

thank youu

[serene token]

You new to the game?

[rustic python]

kind of

certainly new to all DLCs

[serene token]

How many hours?

[rustic python]

like 100

[serene token]

Ooh

[pearl flume]

FRANCE?

[serene token]

Encirclement

[pearl flume]

not quite

[serene token]

Cool

[pearl flume]

yet

[rustic python]

were getting "host has another version of the game" error altough we play without mods, whats the issue here?

[serene token]

Is Hoi4 updated for everyone?

[rustic python]

yes, files verified too, no mods, all DLCs

same checksum even

[random quiver]

Hey guys

my japan is weak

1942 and they haven't taken Philip

[serene token]

Hmmmm

[random quiver]

Brings shame to all japans

[serene token]

Tbh, I dunno

[random quiver]

Is 113 k equipment good

[pearl flume]

Germany is kinda screwed.. maybe

[icy crescent]

Restart PC.
And make sure the selected playset really doesn't have any mods.

Sounds stupid enough.
But restarting actually fixed problem more often than many are willing to admit.

[tiny plank]

I think generic focus tree needs some serious rework

[bronze mango]

Instead of the generic tree we need generic regional trees

[tiny plank]

I think we should divide them into 2 with minor generic for small country
And major generic for bigger minor country

[bronze mango]

I was thinking more so like the Chinese warlords and the Ethiopian releaseables

[icy crescent]

I would be happy about getting some more civs or mils.
The issue with that is... it could be a bit too strong.
Imagine coring Albania and you get instead 4 mils and 5 civs you get double the amount.
And with every other smaller nations too.
Coring Lebbanon, Palestine, Jordan, Syria would become a huge industrial buff to some nations.

And Yugo's self Balkanizing could make it rival Germany.

[random quiver]

Weak ahh 1942 Japan

[sudden thistle]

Would be so fun

[icy crescent]

I mean... yeah.
It kinda works already.
Being stronger than Italy kind of.

Eh. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

But... most one state nations only complete industrial focusses in 1939.

Easy small update would be giving the third mil focus and second mil.
That would be awesome enough.

[sudden thistle]

I was playing France and the first focus Syria did was to get dockyards

They did the entire naval tree before anything else

[patent thistle]

can we btw question the guy who thought it was a good idea to add this formable-?

[icy crescent]

Romania-Hungary?
Don't have Götterdäämmerung, but this is cool.

[patent thistle]

sweden hungary-

[icy crescent]

Oh that.
Yeah, it is a reference to the old tree.
And that the one king or sth was the cousin of the king or queen of Sweden.

[patent thistle]

you still get that same king

[icy crescent]

Not exactly a good formable.
But at least you have some more resources.

[slim nexus]

sexy europe borders

[icy crescent]

Sandwiched Poland, big Bulgaria and long Portugal.

[patent thistle]

return the caucasus to russia and we have a perfect europe borders

[slender roost]

Long Portugal

[slim nexus]

They joined my faction i am nice by not killing them

[patent thistle]

not approved then

also tell me once a hoi4 player playing nice?

to the AI

[slim nexus]

I like to rp stuff they joined my faction willingly which helped me because i didnt have a southern front so they get their independence

[brittle oasis]

I've been snorting some exp

[icy crescent]

Gj.

[brittle oasis]

Thank you

[patent thistle]

get out before you go in too deep-

[random quiver]

If Germany has already cracked my code

[patent thistle]

or you will never get out-

[random quiver]

Can I save it by encrypting

More

[gilded vessel]

yeah i got 500 hours

[patent thistle]

only 500?

[random quiver]

Dayum

[gilded vessel]

yeah

[random quiver]

Me with my 6 little hours

[gilded vessel]

do you even know how to use supply hubs?

[random quiver]

I watched hoi4 videos for fun

[random quiver]

Im currently winning Barbarossa as ussr

[gilded vessel]

yeah then you must be playing as good as a ai

[patent thistle]

i got that with germany alone-

[gilded vessel]

what battle took 107 days??

[patent thistle]

dont know properly some mountain tile

[gilded vessel]

switzerland?

[random quiver]

The ai does not get a KD of 4 to 1

[patent thistle]

do you seriously expect me to remember every game-

[quasi viper]

I hate that there are only 25 construction slots XD

[brittle oasis]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d5wZP-GvT9hMf_sRqFgK6FEREkO_UGPmf1btvMWfdbY/edit?usp=sharing
I got a spreadsheet

[random quiver]

15?

[gilded vessel]

wdym by 25?

[quasi viper]

Wait was it lower? XD

[random quiver]

15

[quasi viper]

I play with construction slot mods XD

[icy crescent]

In Switzerland?
You can increase it slightly with the decision that gives you more slots.
Actually every nation.

[gilded vessel]

you play with mods that make the game easier XD

[patent thistle]

dont question it how i have 0 playthroughs but 144 hours, its road to 56 playthroughs which dont get shown here

[quasi viper]

Duh, now I will take your Noob crown from you and place it upon my own head 🤣

[icy crescent]

By all means, play with whatever you have the most fun with.
Be it with mods, alcohol or monarch paths.

Except Greek.
Monarch Path bad.

[patent thistle]

i am the mods kind of guy

especially road to 56 and great war redux

(and i am also the navy guy-)

[quasi viper]

Für the Kaiser and Deutschland!

[icy crescent]

Funnily enough RT56 nerfs South Africa by either fixing the manpower problem or industrial problem.
But not both like in base game.

And Yugo plays the same.
Yugo cannot annex all puppets anymore either when combining the kingdoms.

Weird observations I made.
Ignore it.

[patent thistle]

they did kinda have a fun thing called "apartheid"

[icy crescent]

Just saying that the basegame can actually get rid of it.
Meanwhile you really had to choose in RT.

[patent thistle]

yes i am kind of insane like this-

[sudden thistle]

No El Salvador 💔

[brittle oasis]

Anyone know when the china/japan rework is coming, I couldn't find anything in the dev diaries

[patent thistle]

thanks for the idea

[sudden thistle]

I think I have like 40% of the world conquered with it

Imma do a world conquest with it after I do my UK game

[random quiver]

I will build civs in 1942

[icy crescent]

Funny COOP idea.
Then try to rule the world.

[patent thistle]

cant play coop due to my network being stabile as a Insane sociopath

[ruby flame]

really want to enjoy bulgaria

could be so fun

but waiting until 1939 to play the game sucks

[random quiver]

I don't have friends to co op with

[patent thistle]

i am guessing you traded baja california for the channel?

with the america guy

[icy crescent]

I was some Central American nation.
Went communist first for the ticking manpower.
Conquered stuff and switched back to Democracy.
USA has all their cores.
And I got everything of Mexico, minus new California.
So USA could have two Californias.

If that answers your question. o.o'

Ohh, the channel.
Dunno how I got it.
But we were in the same faction, so didn't matter.

[green moss]

is this tuff?

[bronze mango]

Kim if he was based

[green moss]

I'm liberalizing North Korea

by adding more infrastructure and roads, removing totalitarian ideas

putting less pressure on citizens

[serene token]

Would a God of War mod work?

Like a God of War for Hoi4.

[lethal ether]

democratic peoples republic of north korea

[green moss]

Democratic (flawed) ✅
Peoples ✅
Republic ✅
North Korea ❌
Korea ✅

[icy crescent]

North. ✅

[bronze mango]

That is not part of the dprk's official title

[serene token]

Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea Korea.

[green moss]

South Koreans live worse than North Koreans lmao

point and laugh

[lethal ether]

yeah right

democratic

[bronze mango]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

[lethal ether]

communist kim jong uns dictatorship of korea

better name

[icy crescent]

Forcing Worker's rights.

[bronze mango]

Juche, also they just said they were liberalizing korea

[versed rapids]

LOOKS PEAK

[paper echo]

Is this a submod

[green moss]

nah

console + creativity

[paper echo]

I ask cuz tfr doesn't have nk content

[green moss]

i usually use console + creativity

on nations that lack content

[paper echo]

Oh ok

You can use forgotten nations submod

It adds a generic tree

[green moss]

naw

I don't feel like it

[paper echo]

Fun fact apparently talking about tfr is not allowed here for some odd reason

[jolly kettle]

It’s not gonna happen, but I hope Australias focus tree gets a little love with the next update/DLC

Honestly all the commonwealth countries focus trees could use some love

[paper echo]

Someone told me that like months ago

[bronze mango]

That makes no sense

[green moss]

because it depicts modern day leaders

no modern politics in this server

[paper echo]

Same as md

[bronze mango]

Ah fair enough

[paper echo]

But it's allowed

[paper echo]

They said they wanna rework existing nations in the future

[bronze mango]

MD? More like, uhhhh..... Mid

[green moss]

gotta help them out

[paper echo]

It's fun if you play as the right nation

[paper echo]

For example taking all of Europe and us as Russia was fun

[dusky burrow]

chinese burderkrieg

[green moss]

I'd like to play MD and proclaim Chinese World but it's so laggy

[bronze mango]

Maybe if it didn't run at one frame per maybe

[green moss]

that it takes 2 hours to get 5 focuses

[paper echo]

Fair

[green moss]

I dual booted Linux and Windows, never tried out HOI4 on Linux

but I think the same case will persist

[jolly kettle]

Yeah just sorta expecting a commonwealth rework would be more of its own thing, probably a lot of work cause I imagine they’d wanna do all of them at once instead of piecemeal, so I don’t expect it any time soon

[rustic python]

ideal unit width in vanilla?

[paper echo]

They are gonna make a 50 euros dlc for that

[paper echo]

For infantry I just make a 3x3 inf battalion unit

[rustic python]

no arty?

[paper echo]

Support

Not line

[rustic python]

okay

anti tank anti air support?

[paper echo]

Anti air yes.Anri tank It probably depends if your enemy makes a lot of tanks

I don't make anti air usually but if the enemy dominates air I put it

[jolly kettle]

…I’d still buy it

[jolly kettle]

I don’t think I’ve ever made or used anti tank

[paper echo]

Anti tank is good if the enemy spams tanks

[jolly kettle]

I’ve never played vs an AI that is able to spam tanks

(I only play SP)

[green moss]

Rest in Peace

50k brave North Koreans

[paper echo]

Then yeah anti tank isn't ideal for sp

[random quiver]

Should I attack

1942

I have equipment but I'm afraid to attack

[meager cypress]

im bored what country do i play in vanila

[random quiver]

Romania

[meager cypress]

alredy did

yesterday

[random quiver]

China?

[dusky burrow]

What do your tanks look like

[paper echo]

Do you dominate air

[meager cypress]

i dont like asia

a country in europe

[random quiver]

Heh as if I have tanks

They all vanished

In a bug

[paper echo]

What about planes

[random quiver]

none but I have a lot of anti air

[paper echo]

Is there anything you have

[meager cypress]

planes in the big 1942🥀

[random quiver]

Troops

[paper echo]

Just put a wooden platform with infantry equipment

[paper echo]

How many cas does the enemy have on your territory

[random quiver]

in Ukraine 297

[paper echo]

Try to micromanage

Cus if they have a lot of cas you are cooked

[random quiver]

In center 0

[paper echo]

Your stockpiles,cooked

[paper echo]

Micromanage south Ukraine

[random quiver]

Its stable

[paper echo]

The majority of units are Romanian and Hungarian

So it's weaker

Try to incircle on dnipopetrovsk area

[random quiver]

I have it...

I held Kiev and Dnipropetrovskul

[jolly kettle]

Fun from a RP perspective but yeah just mostly useless against AI I’ve found

[paper echo]

I mean near the victory point

[paper echo]

Yeah

[random quiver]

What should I attack with

[paper echo]

Your units

[random quiver]

yea but I don't have tanks only infantry

[paper echo]

Make small incirclements on that area

[paper echo]

Then use inf

[paper echo]

Romanian and Hungarian units are weaker

[dusky burrow]

Can you create mountaineers?

[random quiver]

i still gotta wait for pp to increase my conscription

[paper echo]

Whats your law

And what's your mp

[random quiver]

I think the second thingy

57k rn

i lost relatively few to the Germans

[paper echo]

How do you have so low manpower as ussr

[random quiver]

I didn't need it

[paper echo]

Are you on volunteer only or what

[random quiver]

no

The second one I think

[paper echo]

Limited

[random quiver]

yea

[paper echo]

The 2nd one is volunteer only

[crystal marsh]

why is new japan so peak

genuinely

[random quiver]

Japan was always peak

[paper echo]

1st one is disarmed nation

[random quiver]

U just had to see it

[crystal marsh]

well now its more peak

[random quiver]

Oh

[sudden thistle]

🤨

[paper echo]

Japan before dlc and peak at the same sentence 🥀

[bronze mango]

As an apology for a GOE

[random quiver]

Idk I just like the octopus empire

[crystal marsh]

you could frame it that way

although unpopular opinion but goe wasnt as bad

[random quiver]

My Japan in 1942 🥀🥀🥀

[crystal marsh]

it was just half baked

but i actually found myself enjoying the focus trees

especially the raj

[bronze mango]

I actually agree, iraq is one of my favourite countries

[sudden thistle]

People were over reacting

[random quiver]

I feel like they're getting so op

[versed rapids]

How am i doing

[random quiver]

didn't even join the war and suddenly they are superpowers

[bronze mango]

Soon enough kaiserredux will feel balanced

[crystal marsh]

most of the complaints were just people mad at regions uninvolved in ww2 getting paradox's attention

[random quiver]

Im going up in manpower...

[crystal marsh]

and people mad at the nations' shitty geopolitical locations

[random quiver]

im gaining manpower from doing nothing

The axis are just that weak

[crystal marsh]

"you cannot play expansionist iran without going to war with the allies"

well no shit

[random quiver]

I hope Germany will fight me

[crystal marsh]

youre surrounded by british and french colonies and thats not something paradox can influence

[random quiver]

They changed chinas borders

[crystal marsh]

however in their defence they could have made something in the style of brazil where they just ask european powers for decolonisation

[bronze mango]

It's almost as if the Persian empire wouldn't reform in 1936

[crystal marsh]

yeah cause they were inaccurate

[jolly kettle]

I’m mad old trees take so long to do anything while newer trees are full of 35 day focuses.

It’s so fun doing a 70 day focuses to get 1 infrastructure

Just change a few focuses for each tree to be shorter 🙁

[random quiver]

I mean at the start

It should've looked like this from release

[crystal marsh]

tbh theyre still inaccurate but less so

and i understand why they dont want them 100% accurate

[sudden thistle]

That’s called mobilization

[bronze mango]

Its far better

[random quiver]

Nobody can make accurate China

[crystal marsh]

a fully balkanised china could NOT stand up to japan

[crystal marsh]

how so

[random quiver]

I didn't go up in laws

Im just naturally getting enough

[crystal marsh]

paradox is just reworking that region once so they wont have to ever return to it again

[bronze mango]

There are plenty of mods that do that already though no?

[random quiver]

Idk

China has just too many weird little things

especially inter war

a billion temporary nations and stuff

[bronze mango]

8 year war of resistance comes to mind

[crystal marsh]

weird little things

thats like saying you cant make an accurate hre

its hard to find good sources, but it is possible

[random quiver]

Weird little things

Paradox will never make 100 nations in China

[crystal marsh]

you single handedly just proved that it is possible

[bronze mango]

Again 8 years war of resistance

[random quiver]

It's too complicated for hoi4

Maybe in hoi5

[crystal marsh]

your claim was that nobody could make an accurate china

[random quiver]

Not in hoi4

The only possible way to make it playable in hoi4 with one core

Is to make an east Asia only map

[bronze mango]

8 YEARS WAR OF RESISTANCE

[jolly kettle]

That central region would be pain to look at in hoi4 unless they made the states tiny

[random quiver]

Not 100% accurate

nobody is 100% sure what the borders even were

[bronze mango]

There was some other mod focused entirely on inter war China but I cant remember its name

[random quiver]

China for NASA pc

[crystal marsh]

while i agree that it would make the game unplayable if there were a hundred chinas, saying its impossible is the wrong word for it

impossible as in paradox would never do it?

[random quiver]

In hoi4 it kind of is

[random quiver]

I think they will do it in hoi5

[jolly kettle]

It would have to be a huge rework for hoi4, is what he’s saying and that just isn’t feasible atm for hoi4

[crystal marsh]

if they make clausewitz multi core i dont mind a detailed china

[random quiver]

I hope that's what they're doing for hoi5

100 fps 10000 nations all fighting

3 times more tiles 🤩🤩

[jolly kettle]

[random quiver]

Multi tile city?

Like TFR

[crystal marsh]

they likely wont return to china after this update though

mark my words, hoi5 WILL be a thing by 2030

[random quiver]

Eh

[jolly kettle]

I honestly don’t think so

[crystal marsh]

maybe only in development process but by 2030 hoi4 will have been 16 already

[random quiver]

They haven't even mentioned it

[jolly kettle]

DLC still steadily coming for hoi4

[random quiver]

Is it?

[jolly kettle]

Still things they can “add” to the game to make more money from it

[random quiver]

What makes u think this isn't the last dlc

[crystal marsh]

they didnt mention eu5 in 2020 either

[random quiver]

I feel like there's one more dlc for hoi4

[bronze mango]

Cause hoi4 is still gaining players and making a shit ton of money

[random quiver]

one last dlc

America

[jolly kettle]

Because come on, modern paradox milks that DLC

Potentially last expansion/rework? Yeah maybe.

[random quiver]

They can milk more from hoi5

[jolly kettle]

Arguably no

[random quiver]

Everyone wants more fps

[jolly kettle]

It will take time to make initial dev cost back

[bronze mango]

They would need to regain players

[jolly kettle]

Hoi4 has already made its dev costs back

[ruby flame]

Etimos dikita

[random quiver]

Huge sale

Maybe free week

Ppl would buy it if it's good

[jolly kettle]

New paradox games are…

Mid

[random quiver]

Yall already spend tens of dollars on dlc

[jolly kettle]

Need DLC/mods

[random quiver]

Eu5 isn't mid

It's just ahead

[bronze mango]

But thats the thing, when a new paradox game comes out its bare bones

[jolly kettle]

Remains to be seen tbh

[bronze mango]

Dlcs take a while

[ruby flame]

sti ki thithe

[jolly kettle]

It looks pretty and has neat mechanics and I am excited

[random quiver]

Can't they add stuff from hoi4?

[jolly kettle]

But to act like most paradox games don’t come out as an absolute shell of what they eventually become

[random quiver]

Like temporary focus trees

[jolly kettle]

Is a lil ridiculous

[random quiver]

eu5 doesn't need to be big

Its just a structure

[green moss]

The Only Korea

[jolly kettle]

Yes, this

Often times lacking flavour mostly

[random quiver]

a lot of things can be just copied to hoi5

[jolly kettle]

Not really

New mechanics plus earlier start date

[random quiver]

The start date is good

For eu5

[jolly kettle]

Populations are simulated now, wayyyyy less stuff is abstracted

[green moss]

nah I think the start date shall be like

1933

[random quiver]

Hoi4 needs 1933

[jolly kettle]

It’s basically an entirely different beast from eu4

It’s eu in time period only

[green moss]

Either rise of Hitler either Weimar Republic survives

[random quiver]

being able to stop nazism entirely

[green moss]

more realistic than civil wars

[jolly kettle]

I’d like a 32 start date

[random quiver]

Why?

We can't go too back

Waiting 10 years for ww2....

[crystal marsh]

thats just you wanting more time to prepare

[random quiver]

WHY NOT START IN 1910

[crystal marsh]

literally it would ruin any balance

[jolly kettle]

Not from a historical perspective, I just like the mechanics of building up and warring in hoi4, so giving more time to smaller countries to build up would be neat.

But I can just accomplish this with a mod or something so no big deal

[random quiver]

FREE WORLD WAR

[bronze mango]

Start in 1815

[random quiver]

START WITh ThE EVOLUtIoN OF HuMaNS

[crystal marsh]

literally all focus trees in the game are made for the 3 and 2/3 years preparation time window

[random quiver]

START WItH THe big BaNg

[bronze mango]

Start with dinosaurs

[crystal marsh]

a 1933 starting date in hoi4 would ruin the game

assuming we keep the focus trees

[jolly kettle]

Yeah it’s super baked into how the game is made

[random quiver]

Big bang start date

[rustic python]

ideal tank division widths?

[bronze mango]

For hoi5 it would be fine

[random quiver]

Everyone would play China

[bronze mango]

Based

[jolly kettle]

I wouldn’t

[random quiver]

Also can yall believe I've never played Japan

[bronze mango]

China is peak

[icy crescent]

I never played Germany.

[random quiver]

Me neither

[green moss]

time to tag switch to Army of God

and reach the heavens with the Donald Spitz

[jolly kettle]

I hardly play the Majors. Only played US, Germany and USSR once

[random quiver]

TFR is not based

[green moss]

this campaign is surely Made in Heaven

[random quiver]

Patriot front is so lucky

We need commie so America can listen to the great Mao Zedong

[green moss]

I asked the God for powers

and God listened to me

[random quiver]

OR BRInG KIm JONg Un To USA

[green moss]

🙏

[random quiver]

Time to up the conscription

I will make 100 new divs

[quartz canyon]

What country can get the highest non-core manpower ratio?

The other day I saw that Portugal’s focus tree can get it a combined 20% boost.

Do any other countries have potential for more than that?

[random quiver]

GLORY OF THE RED ARMY

[green moss]

Terry Davis in TFR when

[jolly kettle]

Make sure to shit them out before they’re fully trained for the full red army experience

[random quiver]

YES

And send them directly to an offensive

[sudden thistle]

Collabs can give +75% I think

[jolly kettle]

Select all > right click Berlin

Done.

[random quiver]

Lend lease yay

[quartz canyon]

The type you use an agency to make?

[random quiver]

That can beats sheep's mod I think

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

Def

[quartz canyon]

If you capitulate them without it being completed there’s no way to get that manpower then?

[random quiver]

Idk

I don't need manpower anyway

[sudden thistle]

Compliance

[grave condor]

anybody want a game? im nothing crazy at hoi4

[random quiver]

Im afraid

[quartz canyon]

Doesn’t that just make them a puppet?

[sudden thistle]

What

[grave condor]

fair enough

[quartz canyon]

A different kind of collaboration government?

[sudden thistle]

No

U own the land

[random quiver]

Im in my first playthrough

[quartz canyon]

When you get high enough compliance, you get an option to release them.

[sudden thistle]

With a full collab it’s a core basically

[sudden thistle]

Yeah don’t do it

[grave condor]

you just got the game?

[random quiver]

Im 7 hours in

and winning unsurprisingly

But

[jolly kettle]

USSR is your first playthrough?

[grave condor]

Once you learn the basics the A.I becomes really stupid

[jolly kettle]

lol respect

[random quiver]

PARADOX WHERES My MANpOWEr

[random quiver]

Wdym

It's not that hard

[grave condor]

The A.I is incrediby dumb in this game

[random quiver]

The axis just throw at the line

[jolly kettle]

Not “hard” just in my eyes bigger countries are a little overwhelming, since I like to do a lil bit of min maxxing

[jolly kettle]

Yes that’s part of what makes the AI so dumb

[random quiver]

Not exactly

If they find a weak spot they know how to exploit it

[jolly kettle]

You can basically fight vs any countries AI and just let them smash against your lines and destroy their equipment and manpower supplies

lol, hoi AI exploiting a weakness???

[random quiver]

In my corrupted save the Germans got through 1 tile and sent 40 divs through

That's pretty good

[jolly kettle]

The AI is never going to micro to efficiently exploit a break like that

[random quiver]

they did

[jolly kettle]

The AI just uses offensive lines, it does no micro

[grave condor]

If you have a few tiles open chances are the A.I wont even attack and get around you. Ive seen it in so many playthroughs

[random quiver]

Most successful axis offensive be like

[unkempt sorrel]

nerf uk

[jolly kettle]

See - Spanish civil war as an example of this

[grave condor]

The Spanish civil war is something else lmao

[random quiver]

I need uk

[sudden thistle]

No

[grave condor]

I got the one King, Two crowns achievement after a week

[random quiver]

How will ai soviets survive without uk

[jolly kettle]

I gave up on that one lol

[grave condor]

The Uk is disgustingly OP

[random quiver]

They are?

[unkempt sorrel]

"ai" uk needs to be nerfed

[grave condor]

You can get the imperial federation in 1936-37

[random quiver]

Damn

[grave condor]

Yh, not many people know about it

you can core America too

[random quiver]

is it a secret path

[grave condor]

no its not

[jolly kettle]

It’s just their facist path, no?

[unkempt sorrel]

you can do it as democratic too

[grave condor]

you can do it as Democratic and Moanrchy too

[jolly kettle]

Oh neat

[grave condor]

just not Communist I believe

[jolly kettle]

Commie forces the decolonization right?

[grave condor]

yh otherwise you go into a civil war

[random quiver]

2.2 mil casualties for Germany yay

[jolly kettle]

Neat didn’t know

[random quiver]

Still I will never do an offensive

Im scared

[grave condor]

I will hop in a gamewith you if you want

[jolly kettle]

Why? As USSR once you get going Germany AI on historical cannot stand up to you

Especially also fighting the Allies

[random quiver]

100k equipment in reserve

I just don't feel ready

[unkempt sorrel]

i always lose to germany as soviet

[random quiver]

They still have the air

[random quiver]

wut

[unkempt sorrel]

i do the river fort strat and cant push

[random quiver]

How

[unkempt sorrel]

i guess im jus tbad

[random quiver]

Its my first game and the Germans are losing badly

[jolly kettle]

Tbh if you wait for the perfect time all the time in hoi4, you’re gonna end up in 45 with the war still going with no end in sight lol

[random quiver]

How many casualties can Germany afford

[jolly kettle]

Usually I’ve noticed once Germany gets to around 4-5m casualties they start having trouble

[random quiver]

They're at 2.8

[jolly kettle]

Just continue to let them grind on your frontline

[late aurora]

european union on top

then alot of manpower

[random quiver]

They don't want to

It feels so peaceful

[jolly kettle]

Then slowly remove divisions until they do

[random quiver]

Half the time there's no battles

[grave condor]

I love it tho when I capitulate 3 majors and deal 5mil+ casualties but then my allies get 80% of the war score

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[jolly kettle]

You want your frontline weak enough AI thinks it can do something

But strong enough it actually can’t

[random quiver]

Well they keep trying in Kiev

[jolly kettle]

This is such a weird aspect

[grave condor]

I feel like war score needs a rework

[random quiver]

Im making 30 new div and I will send them straight to the first offensive

[grave condor]

it isnt fair sometimes

[jolly kettle]

Naval stuff counts for nothing in terms of war score

It absolutely does need a rework

[quartz tinsel]

oh my god bruh 😭

[grave condor]

never let them know ur next move

[late aurora]

Anyone looking for a MAJOR country game only. only need like 6 players

[icy crescent]

I guess they failed to decolonize in time?

[random quiver]

Nah I'm making civs in 1942

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-stare-at-paper-gif-5257839294650729742

[quartz tinsel]

nope they did

[random quiver]

It's such a peaceful war

[quartz tinsel]

guess its just communist infighting

[icy crescent]

Fully?
Did they do the last decolonizing focus?

[quartz tinsel]

ya i think

[icy crescent]

Mysterious.

Or it got bypassed because they failed.

[quartz tinsel]

honestly i have no idea i was getting ready to invade us then bam, commie brits are in civil war

[grave condor]

if anyone is up for a game @ me

[random quiver]

Great elders of hoi4

What should I play in my second game

[placid onyx]

can someone tell me why theres 9999 capacity mp games in hoi4 rn

[random quiver]

U need them when playing a major

[quartz tinsel]

go play a minor

maybe austria

[random quiver]

Im not surviving that

is Romania good?

[grave condor]

commie china

[quartz tinsel]

romania is like worse in that

[random quiver]

Isn't it too hard

[placid onyx]

go hungary

[grave condor]

eh, its ok

[quartz tinsel]

US maybe

you basically get 5 years to build up your army

[grave condor]

Norway is pretty good

if you have the DLC

[green moss]

is this real

[random quiver]

I think my divs vanished

[grave condor]

I haven't played Sweden though apparently they are really good

[grave condor]

did u do annex all

[placid onyx]

but theres like 10 of them with same name and description

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[green moss]

ofc

[random quiver]

Only 19 divs can spawn per state?

[green moss]

would take shit ton of time to conquer the world as NK

[grave condor]

Do you know how to play the fire rises or millenium dawn

[green moss]

yeah

[grave condor]

I wanna get into them but the economy throws me off every time

[dusky dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-bowl-hungry-gif-5337018160645280311

[green moss]

TFR economy is not real

[grave condor]

I never understood why they were added into the mods

[green moss]

you just do nothing and it does nothing in reward

[rustic python]

where do i see how many special forces i have? isnt there a capacity max?

[grave condor]

go in the recreuit and deploy tab

the cap is on the right

above the division templates

[rustic python]

thanks

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-gif-3803145174211534301

[languid patrol]

division is losing to its delusions

[grave condor]

I never understood why there wasn't a Mongol empire formable

[pearl flume]

Soviet AI actually being good

[umbral agate]

which sweden path is better?

[languid patrol]

undermine

[green moss]

King's cooler

[slim nexus]

hello

[umbral agate]

so do i go with the king or fascists

[languid patrol]

king

[umbral agate]

k

[random quiver]

My first push is not going well

[grave condor]

who are you playing as?

[paper echo]

Tfr economy is somewhat unimportant

[neat kayak]

you call her arms against tyranny , she gets mad

but she doesn't know that you called her perfection....

[uncut pollen]

can we switch ais?

[pearl flume]

lol

[quaint kettle]

Shit wrong channel

Eh who gives a crap

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/санек-gif-1588184507766609898

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-does-anyone-want-to-play-alone-hearts-of-iron4-gif-24027448

[jolly kettle]

You could try the MP channel

#historical-multiplayer

#alt-history-multiplayer

[grave condor]

I thought you were talking about the other server lol, that place died ages ago

[jolly kettle]

Nah lol

[random quiver]

Ussr

[grave condor]

oh

The USSR is very good

[random quiver]

I tried crossing the river in Ukraine

I can't

Germany is being carried

[sudden grotto]

1871 prussian ahh quote

[random quiver]

Nah that's just Germany core

[grave condor]

If you cant win in the air spam out Anti Air

[random quiver]

I did

[pearl flume]

I wonder if Germany IRL could break the magino without needing to invade Belgium

[random quiver]

What

[sudden grotto]

Spg build

And cas

Maybe some tac to break the forts

[jolly kettle]

There’s a reason they didn’t

[pearl flume]

But they were obviously stronger than the French

And they had air superiority

[jolly kettle]

I mean lowkey what kinda made what happened happen is the maneuver through the Ardennes

[sudden grotto]

Erm akshually🤓 irl France had everything superior to german 1939 tech but they got absolutely demolished by their imcompetent leadership

[jolly kettle]

It allowed for an encirclement that forced the Brit’s to withdraw via dunkirk

[stark coyote]

Where so intellectual?

[sudden grotto]

Top 3 worst gamble in history

[random quiver]

Gambling?

[jolly kettle]

It totally screwed over whatever defense France thought it was putting up in the Maginot, and did the exact opposite of what Belgians, French and British expected

[random quiver]

I love gambling

[sudden grotto]

Working makes brain go V8 noises

[stark coyote]

Lmao

[wind swift]

How feasible is it to win a historical game as germany without a successful sea Lion?

[sudden thistle]

(It’s overheating)

[jolly kettle]

It’s not

Perpetual war with AI

[wind swift]

Farts

[jolly kettle]

Peace deals are all or nothing in hoi4

[stark coyote]

I was reading a book like 5 mins ago about early war against France lmao

[sudden thistle]

Just hold France

They can’t kill u if they don’t land

[stark coyote]

Well, WW2, but I was reading that part

[sudden thistle]

I have 2 books on the entire American campaign in Europe in ww2

[sudden grotto]

( in reality its a 1.9 TDI on a Red line )

[sudden thistle]

One is broad the other is following the band of brothers

[stark coyote]

I some for the Soviets 😔

[wind swift]

Do u suggest an Atlantic wall or let them in and encircle?

[sudden grotto]

I got yt

Imagine reading

[stark coyote]

Almost everything I read is virtual, the only thing I've really bought is one from WW2 🤣

[sudden thistle]

Both

[sudden grotto]

Me some psycology books...cant believe i spent 35€ for 2 books lol

[wind swift]

🧐

[sudden thistle]

I probably have like a dozen or so books about ww2

I will need to check

[stark coyote]

You wont win to allies dawg 💔

[stark coyote]

LMAOOOOO

[stark coyote]

The Life of a Rich Man 🗿

[sudden grotto]

Now i can indoctrinate people tho 💔 Hope CIA hires me

[unkempt sorrel]

is this cursed

[wind swift]

Dimitri says youre weong

Who's right?

[stark coyote]

Me what?

[sudden thistle]

Are u good at the game?

[stark coyote]

Oh that, I meant about the Sea Lion

[sudden thistle]

Sea lion isn’t that bad 😭

[stark coyote]

Ik, But almost always here if they lose the first invasion they almost never finish the run

[sudden thistle]

Yeah lol

[stark coyote]

But France is ez either way

[random quiver]

Chat

Whats radikalna Yugoslavia

They just canceled my non aggression pact

[wind swift]

Im ok

[versed rapids]

忘れている

[dry abyss]

how does one ever do that

[strange raven]

skill

[dusky burrow]

Most normal Soviet union

[versed rapids]

i beat the usa in 43

with a million casualties as japan

is it good?

[languid patrol]

how many cas did usa have

[versed rapids]

idk

i had more

[languid patrol]

then no its not good

[vestal grove]

Am I cooked chat

[versed rapids]

but the map was so big that i couldn't put my planes everywhere

[languid patrol]

i understand

[versed rapids]

i did managed to puppet uk and all though

so that's good

[strong belfry]

@fleet zenith

[random quiver]

Why are large river crossings so bad

I can't win a 20v2

[lethal ether]

someone make this a mod pls

[sudden thistle]

Bro

Why AI

[lethal ether]

"dis"

"istanbut"

"berrin"

[clear dagger]

"rusiian"

[lethal ether]

"nomaur"

[little compass]

Athens ❌ Instabut ☑

[random quiver]

Bro what

[near schooner]

天上太阳红彤彤

[random quiver]

anyway how do I cross the great line

[near schooner]

Dis🥀

[random quiver]

Chat how do I cross the eastern front

I tried pushing with 20 div against 2 and lost

how do I push

[near schooner]

心中的太阳是毛泽东❤️

[near schooner]

try paratroopers?

[random quiver]

Hm

[near schooner]

how do i kick them from the faction? im not the leader of comintern and i dont have the man the guns dlc

[snow rain]

are you the leader of the comintern ? the soviets are still there and you definitely don't have the industry to take over the faction

[near schooner]

i dont have the dlc, i cant take over faction

[snow rain]

then you can't kick them from a faction you're not the leader of

[near schooner]

then im leaving comintern uhhh

[snow rain]

you can use commands though

[near schooner]

im in ironman

[snow rain]

then leaving the comintern it is

[near schooner]

if i non-agression pact all comintern member and then attack guangxi the soviets are gonna declare war on me?

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-pl-poland-flag-flag-polish-flag-gif-10342714656137481402

[snow rain]

yes

they'll join the call to arms

[near schooner]

[quasi viper]

I'd rather someone add the Tintin nations to the games, Syldavia, Borduria, Khemed, San Theodoros, etc. etc.

[quasi viper]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[quasi viper]

Not the Brandenburg Gate!

[frank estuary]

War in 1937. I did NOT think it would go that well.

[near schooner]

bruh

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[near schooner]

mussolini didnt change

[grave condor]

https://tenor.com/view/mussolini-serious-who-cares-gif-5388395