#hoi4-general
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greece is the worst nation to invade up there w afghanistan
wait if they have a better module than you do,,, what's the module you need?
Benito-posting
I am also an idiot, because the howitzer is not a heavy armament
I rarely have problems invading greece
it has welded armor
my mughal empire runs have been screwed over by these two
gn chat
Sometimes you just have to bash into Athens and get its supply
hi jonathan whats up
last i invaded Greece I was ottomans
Use the Turkish navy
you're not an idiot
goodnight chat
sparta mindset..?
Wait dont go, I need help for my intro to anthropology homework
it 100% doesn't work for tank
it works for ships in multiplayer conditionally due to a bug
mp too
what
and it works for any module except the first top row for planes(due to the license exploit)
post peacedeal you get all
The class isnt what i thought it was and I only took it because I needed credits
yes unfortunately it is not about Anthropology the store, it is about the subject
that's how they get ya
What's social control
I think they meant me but are you an anthropologist too?
here I'll answer it in #off-topic
Neat
I just had casey work me through it
Probably not for MP though since it requires reloading the save
oh yeah ship is something similar
in mp sometimes it happens when you hotjoin
The feeling when you got some OP plane design but can't deploy it because you need 4000 people
What path i should go to choose monarchy as hung (expect otto)??
Here we go again
Do I keep Historical AI on or off when playing Kaiserreich?
I don't think it matters I think it goes non anyway.
It says unsupported, but I can't tell if its for Alt H or normal H.
It's for normal since well, It hasn't happened before.
So unhistorical is the go
yeah
Amazing lore
Classic menus not automatically scrolling up to top
Lol
Is that patriot front or national socialist movement
Im playing patriot front
Well I guess itβs better than atomwaffen
Either of the nationalists usually win civil war
In my experience
Not going the best for me so far, still prepping
I won newengland too late to catch the union weak
Ye im trying to wait for the western front to collapse for the union before I go
43-183 divisions
To my 47
Ima save then see how attacking goes
Im such an idiot, I had 1/3 of my army training as I declared war
Mussolini moment
I jus forgor
anglo italian pact but fighting against italy
I want to cry myself to sleep
Why
Did you play tannu tuva?
I hate naval invasions
I cry
So much
I am playing France and the Italians sunk my fleet in the med and naval invaded me
And touched me vigorously
Doesn't France have a larger navy than Italy?
How'd you lose against the Italians lol
I have no idea
I am looking at my saves before and my navy was supposed to be out
I am trying to save it but I am not doing too good, might be a wraps
Theres the issue
Its supposed to strike force, not be out
Ima see rq what I have then on
They are on strike force
Which path is the best for the two sicilies?
Not even a single clue, i turned attention to Germany then looked down to see the Italians landing
Ima play back on my last save
Guys I'm playing as Japan and allied with the British we own most of Africa and are fighting almost all of Europe, with just Spain being a ally there but they aren't doing to great, I'm trying to start a new front but want to know where to start it. It has to be on the European Side of the Mediterranean, I could send a map of it currently too help you decide.
Send
I'm listening to the Siege of Vracks rn.
here it is, I'm going to get the Frech out of Africa first.
Don't ask what happened, I forgot to turn non historical off till it was too late.
don't split your fleet
if you combined them it's probably not gonna lose to the italian fleet
You are correct π
Keep pushing though turkey ngl, and open up an Italian theater
These borders got me dead
at what point do you actually become facist as franco
i wish the ai didnt do this thing where they prioritize defending their little allies
ig it makes sense sometimes but everywhere else is completely undefended
my stability is cooked, i shouldnt have made "The Bloody Professor" my leader
first time playing tno am i handling the economy like fine?
you need to click the decision to switch
need 60% support
nice i went from junk to terrible
yeah TNO sucks they cant even spell business correectly
My main issue with it is that i cannot read a single event
well i just did and uhh
i have a feeling poggi is benjamin menendez LMAO
No like theyre only localized for english
God forbid i have to play with my game on english
why is this broken
in tno or vanilla
Not tno because i cant read it
sheeps mod lux
kid named boredom:
reminds me of that one meme
son: dad why did you name my sister Rose? dad: because your mother loves roses. son: thanks dad. dad: no problem M1 Abrams main battle tank.
kid named TiedMountain13:
whats funny is my dad's friend named their kids Abram and Stryker lmao
sure
stryker?
i got bored :3
I love annex whole world with command
removed all factories and resources
time to cobble the world back together
does liberia get any formables
brutal
Wasn't this one of the achievements that you used to be able to unlock automatically, just disable dlc
Bro idk what any of this means
This feels like when your bro is trying to explain his path of exile build
no
what puppet level does the raj start at
i forgot
annex all is lag asf
did it
no aussa?
they got purged
because im evil
and theres no italo ethiopian war rn anyway
you can load in vanilla ignore the mods required if u want
wait
forgot hong kong
whatever i fixed it in my save
Dude this is nutz
Hello!
should i stay up all night before work
idk
Work is temporary hoi4 is forever
Who needs money and relationships when you have hoi4
hey guys
so i used to be the greatest hoi2 player of all time
i destroyed even the most autistic of europeans
i've returned and decided to learn hoi4. it seems way gayer and complicated but im in it for the long haul
whats the best inf and armoured div to build as germany
like can u give me any tips as to what upgrades etc are dead weight and what is most important
Apparently slapping on 3 machine guns and 6 extra ammo slots to ur tanks is meta as Germany
@eternal palm done
thanks π
I'm a bit ignorant is that a space marine template?
No
Space marine?

That is quite literally in their ruleset
Whats the most ridiculous ruleset uve seen
But logi striking is allowed like
what
Makes playing russia impossible
Logi strike ok but no convert??
Yeah......
Russia is alr hard rn
And when u try to argue they ban you for being toxic
uhh btw they buffed mefo so you can do autarky after getting swedish resources
Cuz of course

Yup 
Who
Pdx
Or the mod
The mod they use
Yea you'd think that but I dont know if they are
They dont seem like it
They just weird asf
Expensive af
ok π€·ββοΈ
Hoi4 mods be like:
Germany-national spirit that gives 10 gazillion soft attack and 20 gazillion defence
USSR-All of your factories blow up and you start with 0 because 
Oh and some stupid army debuff
-10 gazillion attack
Play Horstorical
There its the other way around
"what if we buffed sov starting IC by 100% and gave them both sides of their eco tree"
I watched bittersteel and some other youtubers play mods and the ussr just
has such stupid debuffs
and half of them make no sense either
Btw i saw u talking about stupid mp rules
how do people enjoy that?
how is that fun for anyone

Either they are always on the admin team so they're stacked and they dont care for game balance. Or they are too bad or too stupid to understand what good mp rules are
They probably also never played russia against a good germany so they dont see the problem
"just build state aa bro"
"just use armored trains bro"
state aa isnt a miracle building
You still need an air force π π
I read up on state aa and yes its a nice thing to have sure
but like
it will wont stop cas and the enemy from fully bombing your stuff
Its just wasted IC
But man do i love forts
something about grinding down the enemy with your stupid little bunkers
If u do state aa you lack IC, which you already have less of so wasting even more on state aa is worse or you wont have rails and then your supply is gone anyhow
its fun
useless above lvl2
get 35% defense and be done
anything and everything has fort attack now
Bro i remember playing France
I extended the maginot, had pretty high level forts along the entire border from Germany to Italy
30k Frenchmen for around 1.5 million axis soldiers alone

Thats probably not due to the forts but oh well
WEll not those above lvl2
35% defense is big though
But the issue was
so not having lvl2 forts while defending is pretty bad
Germany had so many DIVS
Like sooo many
neither they
or me could break trough each others lines
In singleplayer yeah
Ai doesnt really punish forts in vanilla
Forts are so funny and they build pretty quick
Did some funny
Btw guys
?
Me neither
i never understood when should i focus on one over the other
I just spam infra, then civ, then work on mils fast
Not a relevant number cuz starting counts are always different
basically, if u go to war in 39, build civs until march 37
hmm alr
if u go to war in 41, you can get away with building civs till december 37
if u go to war before 39, dont bother with civs, build mils day 1
ok cool
Germany is the exception and does mils day1 because you need early IC
you get civs from france, poland and benelux, make sure to have collabs
And because a lot of focuses just give you a bunch of civs already

gdp just doubled after taking belgium
not really but sure
I just hate fighting germany in general because
idk they always seem to have an absurd amount of divs
germany especially early on is weak
At least in 39 in comparison to today
though germany is way stronger late game now
borderline unbeatable
if they annex russia
Oh yeah i have had that happen once
kinda my fault for calling Russia against Japan
and they got annexed
Yea russia is stil weak asf
yo chat
Yes?
Yea dont go monarchist brazil, it sucks
Commie and fascist brazil are much stronger
i am doing fascist
Ohhhhh
its just portugal did a royal wedding
omg 
Just restart at that point yea
i dont care about "meta"
i care about what is best and most efficient
so all infantry companies
nothing else
no artillery no other shit
Yea
Thats.... Literally what meta means π
plus so many fighters nerds cant believe it
yeah but meta implies u r listening to what other nerds are saying
because thats not necessarily a bad thing? And it doesnt?
π
Ok so you dont care whats best, u just do what u like
Thats very different but oh well
why the halftracks
Also u literally asked for help, so u are also listening to other nerds
that's different
in hoi2 i would consult the paradox forums and read what ppl had discovered
then integrate that into how i played
im not asking ppl for some strat or build
tell me about motorised
is it not worth building in hoi4?
"I'm not asking for help, I'm just taking others advice after I've asked for it" 
That aside, the lack of self awareness is crazy but ill leave u to it
Not for divisions no
i am asking for help
You still need it for support and supply
"German reich invites us to war"
So u are listening to other nerds 
im consulting you guys properly, and i cherish your input
cuz I'm that nerd
lmaooooooo
well appreciate the compliment
Ye
but can i speed it up with truck attachments?
Nope
Speed isnt averaged, a div moves at the speed of its slowest part
Speed is pretty irrelevant since it gets affected by infrastructure, supply and weather it gets nuked by everything so investing into it doesnt make much sense
speed is always important
It really isnt
well no, because you still have normal infantry.
Your motorized basicaly have to keep up with regular infantry.
They cant speed past the bulk of the army and go rambo against the enemy lines
unless they've completely made a different game

Uh yes, that was kind of the goal
i dont want my motorised infantry keeping up with regular infantry
if u were trying to take ur hoi2 experience into hoi4 I gotta dissapoint you
i want infantry keeping up with my amour
That really does not matter
Tanks arent gonna magically outrun the inf, supply makes sure of that
how does it not matter to be quick and run rings around the enemy
on average everything moves 4 kmh no matter the base speed
wtf
Cuz you dont need higher base speed to do that
supply is the biggest factor
hi chat
no you have to be lying
If ur enemy doesnt have supply, it moves slower than you do
how do i form italian east africa
or you dont understand the game
Hence u can encircle
this means theres zero point playing hoi4
everything goes 4kmph???
it cant be real
yeah i ignore that
Ok so im playing Italy atm
In your focus tree
if i have armour and motorised inf they go quick
thats the whole point of armour and motorised inf
You have a focus that allows you to crown a new king over your colonies in east Africa
mhm
Just go down your political focus tree
where
i dont care about stats
And you should see it
which focus?
lemme find the exact one hold on im not on my pc atm
k ty
wait dont tell me you cant create pockets in hoi4 either
@pearl jackal
is this game ww1 simulator
you must take the "Ministry of Italian Africa" and "The New Emperor of Ethiopia" focuses from Italy's national focus tree. After completing these, you will be able to take the decision to "Establish the Africa Orientale Italiana"
yeah?
alr thx
Thats how u form it
np
i dont have bba btw
Neither do I
have you even played the game?
but a large part of Italy should still be there
i played it last night for an hour with a friend
alr
Bba is for alt history i think
woooow
yea go play some more buddy
and minors+air design
we sent rommel with 2 panzer divs to spain but then had to quit
so i havent tried the combat yet
i was learning the ropes
also in hoi2 mp even the slowest speed was too fast for most nerds
unc stop comparing it to hoi2
because there u had to micro every unit
its a different game
I dont need to hear allat
u dont seem worth my time, frankly π
go play some more
im thinking i set my guys up with this battle plan ai nonsense
then micro all of them
and especially micro all my air units
you have no idea who i am
You really dont have to and shouldnt
Only micro offensive units
SirDavidHasselhoff
the paradox forums used to cringe at the mention of my name. that was 20 years ago tho
i am purely offensive
ja diggah lass ma π
Mr.Paradox please give me dlc 
everything i do in hoi is offensive
then you battleplan and dont micro :3
if i have to defend ive lost
Defending battles are fine
Sprichst du ΓΌberhaupt Deutsch?
Ja dachte ich mir kek
nah im gonna figure out how to make panzer armies in this game and go on mad encirclements
Ja Ja, autobahn.
Lernen vier jahre alt german 
i just need to know the best makeup for the panzer divs
Panzerkampfwagen
earlier u posted a pic of a panzer div makeup
For what purpose, grinding in spain? Fighting actual enemies?
Panzerkrampfwagen
why the halftracks? what does that do?
Das Auto.
You should read the modifiers
Ja ja
Having wheels on light tanks reduces cost
Von Berlin bis Warschau in einem Tank
i will but i wanted to know what you guys think first
das einst phone das einst
nuisance phone
Krankenhaus
https://youtu.be/hke7xQFXa30?si=bJAIr0sqpU-oj8Aw this is the only german i know
along with jahwol sofort
Nice try 
jahwol sofort is universal imo
please dont π
yes my name is ryan brown
Ryan Braun 
how did u find out
Grandson of Werne Braun
Wouldnt u like to know
brown is anglicised brun and braun
π€«
same energy as John Smith

John Paradox give dlc :pwease:

Oktoberfest activities
oh cool
Yup, major nations and some minors have their historical paths basegame
Like Finland and Poland
Poland is broken though π
cool
The no dlc hoi4 experience is so broken
Polska Gurom
They dont even get their full hist tree iirc
They dont get funny smigly
Wanna know how my tanks work? I just research a completely new tank
no collab governments either
no spies
And no new peace deals where i take the navy
and resource rights
it basically means, you always get stuck in belgium due to raiding
So I dont really blame all the no dlc noobs when they get stuck
they literally have no other choice
This is one of the best customization mods i have ever seen
can u core libya as italy? i dont think so right?
No
You have to build up the railway
Which is sad
You have a lot of focuses that give you compliance anyways
Arent u tired
alr
Not on historical
But Libya is usualy pacified
Yeah i have to stay up for like 3h+ ideally
So its yk a normal time
Communist italy i think can core African territories with a focus
Yep, they can core all of africa
Or sleep for 2h exactly
oh btw dont make the same mistake i did
You want to do focuses that give power to Benito
But some of them require to have a specific balance of power precentage
When you unlock that trough your political focuses
Click on your nations flag and under your thing where you select focuses you should see the balance of power precentage
click on that and you have decisions to shift the balance in either the councel or Benitos side
fair enough i mussolini is an alright leader i feel like
No german because we dont know german
So we cant moderate it
No non English basically
i didnt realize at first that you can click on it and have decisions that shift power to unlock further focuses
So keep that in mind
Its so obvious lol
Dont tell him π€«
Also that guy wont be here anymore
He aint the sharpest tool in the shed
good riddance but why lol
Racial slurs
hoi4 horshoe theory, all roads lead to racism 
Unfortunate π₯
so freaking accurate
im on the slope of enlightenment
Well, see thats what you think π
simpsons mod for hoi4 when
I think ur on the peak on mount stupid
but ive been the the valley of despair before
Nah you just were a know nothing
Now u you think u know stuff even when u dont
im not THAT bad
What did he do
i did barbarossa and soloed
in 1940
i dont do multiplayer

Yesterday he was like "how does cg factor work"
lmao
i just have 32 infantry divisions that i don't remember training
Then I explained to him simple percentage multiplication like I'm in friggin middle school π€¦
does that really matter?
shut up bro he did barbarossa in 1940 and soloed
you cant talk to him
Well u arent the smartest lemme say that
π₯±
Been there done that
is that supposed to be an achievement?
before i blow up the soviets
think ill train a few garrison divs for the home islands
i've got a lot of manpower
what happens when you barbarossa in 1938
it is ancient norse and old english for a <redacted> with a sick tan
didn't even realize i was on extensive
man i just got auto banned for an hour from this discord because i used a bad word
i guess this is a christian chat
shit thats crazy
no autoban
HELP
redacted was the n word and not even with a hard r
Time travel?
oh my god
i thought everyone who played hoi was a nazi
Chat im time traveling
that or monarchists
You clearly have no idea what it means to be able to say it or why black people in america say it π
the allies might as well just surrender after i kill these billions of divs in this one tile
Stop waffling dawg
then why play the game at all
singleplayer?
why play any game if you arent crushing your enemies
i have carriers and im gonna use them
and hearing the lamentations of the women
All colonies got free?
What is that effi cap color π
At least quote it correctly smh
i dont need to quote it correctly
as i told you i was the greatest hoi2 player of all time
I mean it kinda looks nice
All nations went democratic in 1936
we're gonna have a little fun
Historical
Horrible.
Yoo thats me
My pc time travels
ur in the valley of despair :peepotroll:
I already have enough imposter syndrome to feel that way dw..
AMOGUS REFERENCE?1?1?1?
i got bored so i merged them into one mega fleet
is that a good idea?
yis
i sunk the royal navy doing that as france last time with my 105 destroyers
its what you do
so were not supposed to have multiple task forces?
if you want to win a naval battle stack the best surface ships you have into one fleet
i only needed superiority over the channel
the US needs like multiple task forces for escorting convoys
most of the time thats all of which you possess
because theres 6 seas between new york and liverpool
u can have little asw fleets if you want to be cute
and if you have the industry ig
me?
i never do that though
i only need to hold the sea and coast of japan
also i can't help but notice
the quite
extensive route
for my chromium from turkey
actually i think that's just an
export i think because i'm not buying anything from turkey
i am importing
oil and aluminium from uncle sam
and rubber from british malaya
do they know
i am in a faction but im not gonna bother calling in them
and the other supply hubs
only need manchukuo for this
are you playing as manchukuo
hope you're ready to recover some land puyi
barbarossa
not looking too great
that's probably where all the soviets are
busy trying to blow up germany
im gonna take advantage of this
and steal the far east from them
the allies are invading from spain in the west
germany's in a bad spot
but the soviets have collectively turned their brains off and decided to not garrison our border
more for me
WHO SAID PLAYING CHINA WAS HARD
No one
ποΈ
@distant nacelle Thanks for lending me the million dollars! I will pay you back next week
It might be hard for a beginner
But if you have an idea of what you're doing it's easy
Realy i never won the war with japan
All you have to do is to hold out, and to ensure no naval invasion manages to land
Also hi flowi
Hello scary man

Ulaanbataar Jerusalem
Tomato tomato
i wonder who chiang sent over to take kamchatka
soviets are just rolling over germany
if germany capitulates that'll be a problem
because i need soviet attention in europe so i can mess around in siberia
March faster bro π
Alr gn guys
i don't have jeremy clarkson with me vro
all the VPs are in the west
all i can do is press these buttons for now
What mod
Thx
i think im up for brazil world conquest and also do as welsh argentina control wales
The clang of British and Allied ships. My name is Iran and my last name is Persian Gulf. Who dares to disturb me by naval, land and air force? Just show me and I will deal with it.
What is this peacedeal cope π
just be a man a finish the war
no fun allowed
Jordan Peterson sounding ass π
"we will see who cancels who" π π π
true that π π π
What a beautiful threat. Wouldn't it be better to play multiplayer together and see who wins? Thank God I was able to score like this without cheating or manipulation, but I think I'll give myself points in multiplayer so you might have a chance to win against me.
no fighting in the war room
idk what you're talking about man the country is still called the greater german reich so they must be doing great
chat do not enable decision.nochecks and let the game run for a bit
he so poetic dOE
i will not be taking any questions
bruh how long until this goes??
Hello beautiful ships
and wait a second
go big or go home play germany
should i do historical germany
yea
is rt56 fascist civil war harder than vanilla?
90 days after pressed iirc
hello!!!!!!
Hewwo!!!
:D
:3
:3
οΌ3
is 16 width infantry the meta?
to that i say nuhuh
every single ship in my fleets are fully decked with AA
shout at them
im not making 300 36 width inf divs mate π
well then you lose
π who gave bro the rights to declare wars
denmark gets a taste of its own medicine
never puppet denmark.
no if i dont accept
having your puppet at war with everyone isnt that nice
i always just try to annex them
im trying to annex them but its slow
build a bunch of mills or something in thier territory
Why does Romania has Slovak territory?
i think you need to start capitulating to the czechs, not kill them off
12, 14, 16w
18w isnt optimal but also works
this is if you dont do mass mob
you need to be losing to the czechs
so only the south?
ye
pretty sure you need a bit more
but dont quote me on that
i never played the "path"
i will invade britain first so that i avoid the US entering later
and i will do the blunders later
its a bunch of math
i dont have an excel sheet for it
Ok I will look it online
its better to have 5 16ws in battle than 4 18ws (example)
so more width for less divs doesnt always work in your favor
is this tuff
guys how do i get trotsky to take contorl of mexico??
and the cherry on top is combat efficiency isnt that different between a 16 and a 18w
somewhat
It takes 150 days for the event to fire.
Did you take Austria by force?
Did you skip Eastern Europe or something
just wasted 3 hours playing the soviet union just to forget that finland exists and get fully capped by them cause i didnt put my troops there while i was micro managing on the frontline with germany
how does that happen
theyd need to walk through the urals to cap you
taking all the european part
thats serious skill issue gng
were you tunnel visionned on vladivostok or something
You zoomed too much into the frontline it seems.
^ Did you delete your army?
yes
the war in china was really interesting
Oh you actually wanna 1v1? aight sure bud
how do i get this
Lendlease your puppet
Why didnt u kill finland
Wanted to stay a little too historical.
Lend lease large amounts of stuff.
Convoys work well.
Otherwise build stuff in there.
build anything in their territory + lend lease a lot of convoys to them (u will get them back after annexing them) + u need 300 pp to annex them
k
WHY DOES IT ALWAYS COME TO THIS F NATION?
Best buildings is factories, and lend lease must be stuff you produce.
why tf r u at war with czechoslovakia as germany
u should not be at war with them
oster conspiracy
im doing the thign where i make puppets then annex them to get factories
damn
ive never gotten it to happen
You'll still have to deal with revolts and compliance though, which will limit the amount of factories you can use, I think.
just let them do their industrial focuses
ik
Let's say that one factory contributes one billion dollars to the GDP. How much GDP does your country currently have?
im pretty sure u should've just let croatia exist as reichskomissariat
if they lend lease me wil it decrease autonomy
Yes
alr
Actly
Increase
if they lend lease to u it will increase their autonomy
please tell this is not rng
But ai doesnβt lend lease enough to increase
Trade is more impactful
it got reworked since GTG
u need like a bunch of nations like czechoslovakia and yugoslavia to decline when u demand their lands
yeah
why is poland not being invaded
i thought italy was supposed to be more competant
and playing fascist germany like 17 times
i have never gotten it to happen
or i probably
just need to play fascist germany like 33 more times
and it's alwaya rng based
r u trying to get the woman in a high castle?
i am taking a break
yes
i am breaking my monitor if i spend more time on this
it isnt
and the cw takes precious time
just do the british friendly focuses
i finish it around may almost june
then rearm while ur at it
and expetriate the communists to make france communist
yeah i know
u do also need to fight france not too late though, otherwise they join comintern
ok
how this game always shoves USA down the throat is inasne
even if the allies are dead
NOPE YOU CREATE A FACTION
NOW SUFFER
F you
π
if he was serious I would be so hyped
Bro has no idea whats coming to him
The fra usa tag team