hoi4-general

[cursive oxide]

Lol got portugal in the Axis

[slim nexus]

Yeaa i made like 54 divisions and still lost

[supple kettle]

yesss that one

hes cool

[cursive oxide]

Why is axis ai so shit

Maybe cus historical AI is on ?

[coarse trail]

Bro where did your armies go

[sudden grotto]

Tip for anyone lol, if Austria goes democratic kill them lol, they can form an OP faction that can recruit basically the whole europe

[cursive oxide]

Great Italian civil war

[craggy trail]

Almost finished with my main political focus tree

[hollow anvil]

Is there any mod that changes it so that the autarky focus requires faction resources instead of puppet/ur own resources?

So I don't have to conquer romania

For oil

[sudden grotto]

You can subjcate them in the vanilla focus

[supple kettle]

why not conquer ussr cutie

[cursive oxide]

Im done I'm cooked cus shit AI

[hollow anvil]

Cuz that's the point of playing after that 😭

[supple kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110621043728597104/1404914901797048440/Hedupatu.gif

[hollow anvil]

That doesn't turn them into a puppet if I'm right?

[craggy trail]

One last Daring Do Adventure quest to do

[hollow anvil]

Not sure tho

[sudden grotto]

Ye

[supple kettle]

yes the economic integration stuff does

[hollow anvil]

Wait, what 😭 how does that work

Wdym

How do I turn Romania into a puppry 😭

[supple kettle]

dont have hoi open atm

[sudden grotto]

There Is the focus i think

Near the italian Alliance one

You Will see It, its the only One with the romanian fkag

Wtf there Is a italian focus that lets me create 4 railway guns

based

[flat barn]

hi

[craggy trail]

Hello

[flat barn]

Hi friend

[supple kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954031666010128474/1351972649533968424/V_wave.gif

[craggy trail]

4th artifact

[supple kettle]

how many are there total ?

[jade hearth]

Im playing old world blues, never played NCR, So do I go Power Armor or Rangers for Special Units

[craggy trail]

I don't even know

[slim nexus]

capping soviets as finland was easy who do i play next

[supple kettle]

to bad ur war is done b4 u got all

[supple kettle]

the netherlands :3

[slim nexus]

boring ahh countrty

which country lets me invade everyone

[supple kettle]

why ask ...

[slim nexus]

and isnt germany

or any axis nation for that matter

[supple kettle]

any country can invade everyone

[jade hearth]

Trotsky Soviet Union, spread communism

[supple kettle]

paraguay

[marble igloo]

Literally any country. You just flip fascist or communist. Question is, how fast?

[flat barn]

😊

HI

[lethal ether]

what mod is this

?

[craggy trail]

Equestria at War

The My Little Pony mod for Hearts of Iron 4

[craggy trail]

I think like 6 artifacts total

[supple kettle]

😮

[lethal ether]

dang

looks cool

[craggy trail]

Along with a bunch of other UI and QoL mods

[jade ore]

i appreciate the updates and all for hoi4 but does EVERY dlc have to include a balance of power

[jovial bough]

Japan?

[lone sail]

its joever

[uncut pollen]

wait till there in luxenbourg

it will beat them all

[lone sail]

how

[uncut pollen]

its luxenbourg

the most op country in hoi 4

[void canyon]

what even is non historical r56

[lethal ether]

they usually start falling back once they reach europe

like

france, germany, uk

[uncut pollen]

why is germany in etiopia?

and what are all the countrys in spain?

[neat kayak]

i want the USA to be over

i am going insane

help

[void canyon]

civil war probably

[void canyon]

and sometimes italy shares ethiopia occupation with germany

[supple kettle]

normal spannish scivil war

priorities in the world XD

[placid sleet]

chinese ai is cooking

[shut gazelle]

does the guarantee on finnland by UK go away sometime or not

[neat kayak]

if the USA gets any new achv on the new dlc

i am deleting the game

this nation is garbage and a slog

[void canyon]

this always happens and its so satisfying

[craggy trail]

The final artifact to find

[supple kettle]

u can do it OwO

[supple kettle]

yay

[dusky burrow]

Fascist international

[fallow grove]

Why mp pro players always play with mods that add stupid rules just so they can do 1 front war 😹

[void canyon]

it says this is a defeat for france even though japan clearly lost way more

is it because of the convoy loss

[dusky burrow]

Happens

[dusky burrow]

Yeah mp is like that

Some rules make sense, like no declaring war on Germany in 1937, but some are clearly preference based

[craggy trail]

It was well worth the ending ❤️

[supple kettle]

aww ye i like how he can be turned good

[fallow grove]

They ain’t that pro if they cry about doing 2 front war or even adding restrictions like no dday till Germany caps Soviet 😹

[placid sleet]

so based

[supple kettle]

GG

[void canyon]

fr because the whole point of it is everyone is fighting 2 fronts on separate sides of the planet (WORLD war???)

[rustic needle]

dlc drops when?

[tepid moon]

Rate this peace deal

[void canyon]

certified by chaotic peace deals ltd

very productive encirclements

[lusty river]

how do i seize gold reserves as germany?

its not showing up anywhere

[frosty solstice]

is guerilla tactics good for attacking?

[shut gazelle]

what the

[sudden grotto]

More like defending

[shut gazelle]

how did hell did japan whom isnt in our alliance get french land

[sudden grotto]

I dont think someone ever used It for Attack lol

[sudden grotto]

Historical tbh

[low sentinel]

Did you check decisions?

[lusty river]

yea it was my bad

[warped flint]

Can someone help me

Everyone attacked me

[lusty river]

i didnt even have economy of conquest

[warped flint]

I don't have enough manpower

[lusty river]

funny clock man

[warped flint]

Ye trying to do that

Probably going to die

and have to restart

i got unlucky

everyone attacked me

This game is making me want to hurt myself

Nothing i can do

I barely can conscript anyone

[lost quest]

Guerrilla warfare is defensive

[hollow anvil]

How to puppet romania and hingary as germany? Without war

Like without attacking them 😭

[dusky burrow]

Okay I've never heard of no d-day until sov caps sort of thing

Who's doing this and wtf

I'm literally told that you're supposed to do D-Day right on Barbarossa explicitly to draw Germany into a two front war as an MP strat

[slim nexus]

It's Miku's birthday

[uncut pollen]

Yay

https://tenor.com/view/griddy-miku-hatsune-miku-vocaloid-gif-5951458306926896882

[sudden thistle]

What

That’s a horrible rule

[rigid junco]

Neck hurts

[fair horizon]

i hope the coal update doesnt screw minors too hard

dont want to be literally useless as a dominion

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[sudden grotto]

My honest reaction

[zinc light]

I forgot to learn what bombs are

[sudden grotto]

1. big metal thing goes down
2. touches target
3. target eliminated

[zinc light]

explain that to my scientists please

[sudden grotto]

Erm.

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-kaboom-gif-9833865

[winged nimbus]

Anyone wanna play a game of hoi4 with me in very new and got no clue what I'm doing

[dusky burrow]

May I present you a cursed late-game division

Cursed tank destroyer design

[fair horizon]

45% reliability, bros gonna lose tanks like no tomorrow 💀

[dusky burrow]

And yes this is singleplayer

[fair horizon]

also you could not do as many engine clicks since your max speed is only 6.4

make em cheaper

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's also true

That's because of the rangers though

[fair horizon]

yeah but rangers go hard

[void bay]

6.4 speed. 🙁 if you get 12 speed you could encircle easier. i prefer at least keeping speed above 8 at minimum so you are at least 2x inf base speed.

[winged nimbus]

This looks cool but pricey is it worth it?

[dusky burrow]

I could make them 8.4 kmh

[fair horizon]

its not that pricy tbh

also are tds cheaper than real tanks?

[dusky burrow]

By replacing the rangers with this tank and the interleavened roadwheels on the TD with Christie

[dusky burrow]

Answer is no, they're the same

[winged nimbus]

I wouldn't know if I only have the game for like a day 😭🙏

[fair horizon]

its all the equipment

[dusky burrow]

TD is just so that I can fit cannon on medium chassis which reduces cost

[lethal ether]

stats dont justify production cost

[fair horizon]

oh lord i didnt even notice the cannon

piercing to the max

[void bay]

unless you have TONS of extra mils on tanks, you should be at 80% reliability and min 8 speed. armor only needs to be 1 higher than your enemies piercing. so scout a bit, save on armor and pump it into breakthrough/attack/speed.

[dusky burrow]

It's fine, it's the cannon at the pinnacle of the AA tree

[fair horizon]

hes russia

[faint yew]

Oh brother...

[dusky burrow]

I'm Russia right now

[void bay]

so you do have tons of mils

it dont matter as much then

[dusky burrow]

I'm presuming late game conditions when you just have factories running on idle

Extreme late game

Noticed the helicopters?

[fair horizon]

idle factories..? is this something im too minor nation to understand?

[void bay]

most likely too much piercing and armor. those two stats only need to be 1 higher than enemies armor/piercing to have full effect. I highly doubt you have enemies with over 200 armor. MAYBE if they build anti tanks they have over 100 pierce...

[fair horizon]

no such thing

[dusky burrow]

You could have 200 mils by expanding and stuff

[fair horizon]

australia 😭

[lethal ether]

switzerland is the best nation

[lethal ether]

its just too op

[dusky burrow]

Really you only need 40 mils to make 4 of these a year

[dusky burrow]

Australia but it's 1955

[lethal ether]

1955

amazing

[dusky burrow]

Actually 6 mils will make 1 of these divisions in a year

[fair horizon]

you literally just described my last game lmao

[lethal ether]

is there any mod that makes sh tanks a frontline battalion

[dusky burrow]

Late game tends to be resource limited, not ic limited

[fair horizon]

i became the naval superpower of the world

[dusky burrow]

Steel begets steel

[fair horizon]

mine was still ic but like i didnt have any land

[dusky burrow]

If you're Australia or Brazil or the like

[fair horizon]

i owned part of the east indies

also third rome

[dusky burrow]

Also the armor value of this division is low

84? Gets penned by late-game mech

[void bay]

if this is single player, you would benefit from putting some of the hard attack into soft attack. AI usually has more soft troops than hard troops. if you find yourself going into tanks, make one or two tank killer divs and you are good.

[fair horizon]

wont be an issue, it pens it which means it does plenty of damage

[dusky burrow]

I would not, at least if I stayed on mediums. But heavy tank divisions will do justice

And the AI makes high hardness divisions like mech divisions, which is also a problem for the armor

[sudden thistle]

this is kinda good wdym

[dusky burrow]

The armor issue is eminently fixable however

[void bay]

100 armor 101 pierce = 100% pierce. 100 armor 99 pierce = 0% pierce. 100 armor 102 pierce = 100% pierce...its something you can scout enemy for and see how much of each they have and then know how much you need.

[dusky burrow]

Well for the organization dice rolls yeah

100 armor 101 pierce = 1d6, 100 armor 99 pierce = 1d4

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow im gonna crash out

People are being dumb in ask for help 😔

[heavy vigil]

Dont use medium tds

[void bay]

no. rolls dont change. the org stat is for your turns.

[heavy vigil]

Like

If you use med tds

Youre never getting break on them

Its just not possible because fixed turret is the death factor to break

Use them if you just give up on break

[dusky burrow]

Yeah I know, still 600 is a good value so I more or less let that slide in singleplayer. If this was multiplayer then you should probably have more

[heavy vigil]

Its rlly not

Youre just not getting sufficient break from the tds

Most of that break is your mech

You make medium tds at 22 IC anyway at which point its cheaper to do heavies

Ive used medium tds before and decently effectively

You just have to remember to just give up on break

It wont work

[void bay]

also why have defense stat be the same as breakthrough on your tds? they are never going to be defending if you're using them effectively.

[heavy vigil]

?

Defense you ignore anyway but you get it from mecg

Mech**

[dusky burrow]

That's just a coincidence

[heavy vigil]

It just has super high defense

[void bay]

ok

[dusky burrow]

^

Actually a heavy tank of the same design still has slightly higher cost, if I use basic heavy chassis to steelman this I get 29 cost. We need 28.3 cost to break even with the medium design, and I assume that a lot of you have the mediums researched already

The real tradeoff is breakthrough versus speed, or rather whether you specced into heavy versus medium tanks early on

[void bay]

maybe i build diff than most, but i usually like to scout the potential enemy troop layouts and adjust my designs accordingly. what region your fighting and the stats of the troops you're fighting are my deciding factors. for example. good luck taking a "op 36w tank div" into africa or south america.

[dusky burrow]

I mean yeah, but then the trouble is that in the late game when I'm talking about these designs you're stuck with hundreds of allied mech divisions on your border

[flat barn]

hi

[dusky burrow]

BTW what's the problem?

[heavy vigil]

they were just being exceptionally dumb

[jade hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

[snow rain]

You should use high velocity 3 as main armament

[dusky burrow]

Also a valid choice, and of course the preferred choice in MP

[snow rain]

also, if this is SP, it will work worse that this design until 1950 or something when there is only mech in front of you

[copper turret]

@stark sedge

@snow rain

[snow rain]

cheaper and same stats iirc
stat's why it's better

[dusky burrow]

This is post-1950 SP

[snow rain]

damn

[copper turret]

Can I tell you something

@stark sedge is my fan

[snow rain]

stop randomly pinging

[stark sedge]

Yeah he is weird

[heavy vigil]

i randomly ping

[copper turret]

dont tell me what to do

[heavy vigil]

@hidden spruce

[copper turret]

He's my fan

@snow rain @stark sedge

[hidden spruce]

@heavy vigil

[snow rain]

don't make me tap the sign

[copper turret]

if anyone touch or rude to iejatix you get your cut

[dusky burrow]

I have no idea what's happening tbh

[snow rain]

he's probably high or something

[copper turret]

leave iejatix that's my homi

[stark sedge]

Woo is some random kid who thinks im his fan for some unknown reason

[lapis snow]

children doing children things, it'll go away once school starts again in a week

[copper turret]

@stark sedge if anyone touch you tell me

@snow rain leave him

[stark sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[copper turret]

i said it and said it your ear getting cut

[stark sedge]

Woo you are weird ngl

[copper turret]

Im tuff for yoy

[snow rain]

he's doing his edgy teen play or something, ignore him and he'll go away
if he keeps spamming ping though, ticket creation it is

[copper turret]

I said leave him

[stark sedge]

Yeah

[copper turret]

@stark sedge

@stark sedge

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/fan-gif-25758450

Wha da hell

[void bay]

my go to strat for anti mech/tank is strat bombing supply, then going for an encirclement with troops that are at least 2x their speed (pref 3x). all that fancy expensive mech/tanks are useless once gas runs out/org gets low.

[copper turret]

bacisly @stark sedge my fan following me

[stark sedge]

Yeah just ignore him

[sudden grotto]

👍

[copper turret]

@stark sedge

[stark sedge]

I js blocked him so he wont send random pings

[copper turret]

@stark sedge

we didn't ask

😂😂

[copper turret]

@sudden grotto

[dusky burrow]

Honestly not unreasonable, but that means you need fuel yourself

[void bay]

im assuming this guy is trying to get banned from server?

[dusky burrow]

The max non-fuel speed is 7 kmh

[heavy vigil]

<@&846894118219022336> spam ping harassment

[sudden grotto]

Gg

[snow rain]

I opened a ticket, enough is enough

[dusky burrow]

Just saying, if you're fighting in a really low supply area

[zinc light]

if the frontline is stuck
just go around it with a naval invasion
its that easy

[snow rain]

or get some units with high stats (tanks or good special forces) or a lot of CAS and punch through like butter

[copper turret]

@stark sedge @snow rain

[sudden grotto]

Or...retreat and make the enemy go foward into a syntethic sailent

[copper turret]

@snow rain @snow rain

[zinc light]

yeah I'm using a ton of cas, since I don't have the research or industry to support big tank divisions

planes are easy

[slim nexus]

i think its weird that Poland doesn't get a single king who is actually Polish
Friedrich Christian is German
The habsburg king is Austrian
Michael is Romanian
The Bermontian is a Cossack
Anatasia is Russian
And Wójtek is Iranian

[zinc light]

smack fighters on, wait, smack cas on

[void bay]

yup. thats a really good point. in those circumstances, i build the troop designs smaller and with support companies to help supply as well.

[sudden grotto]

Wojtek Is a true polish...

Dont you dare

[slim nexus]

wójtek isnt even polish though they found him in iran

[sudden grotto]

Akshually🤓 he was syrian

[zinc light]

he's more deserving of the title as Polish Monarch than any of us!

[slim nexus]

oh i didnt know that

[dusky burrow]

I mean honestly if you're building troops smaller it's probably better to just keep less of the larger division

[astral furnace]

algum br?

[dusky burrow]

Also because it's cheaper to put logistics company on one division than on 3

[sudden grotto]

Btw what are you going to do lol, call the Pinsk dynasty? Jagiellon? Only true german dynasties last.

[copper turret]

@sudden grotto @sudden grotto

[sudden grotto]

was?

[copper turret]

tell iejatix hes my fan

@sudden grotto

[sudden grotto]

I wont bother him tell him yourself

[slim nexus]

elect piłsudski's resucitated corpse

[stark sedge]

Thx

Idk whats up with that kid

[copper turret]

Or else you want hard way

[sudden grotto]

Only true way Is military dictatorship lol

[sudden grotto]

💀

[copper turret]

@sudden grotto @sudden grotto @sudden grotto

[sudden grotto]

AW hell nah

Who Is dis

[snow rain]

just block them, I opened a ticket about it, he'll get the stick sooner or later

[stark sedge]

Some random ass kid who joined this server to randomly ping me

[slim nexus]

honestly outside of the monarchist path Poland's paths are total dogshit
Fascist and Communist paths are just objectively inferior to the PLC path and requires civil war
and the historical path doesnt even give you cores on old PLC land

[snow rain]

the sanatation path is quite solid if you do it right

[opal nymph]

April Constitution is pretty decent

[slim nexus]

is it?

[opal nymph]

Yeah

[slim nexus]

i mean you dont get any land

[opal nymph]

Who needs land

[slim nexus]

outside of modern day polish territory and stuff

[opal nymph]

It is about the fun of holding against the Germans and possibly the Soviets

[snow rain]

you get lithuania as cores, solid buffs and a few good claims that help out on exapnding (less resistance)

[opal nymph]

Also OFN poland can get a bunch of war goals

[snow rain]

nothing beefy or op, but good nonetheless

[snow rain]

both at the same time is fun but almost always limited to mass mob strats

[slim nexus]

so whats the easiest Poland path that isn't the meme path or the Cossack King path because im not playing as a russian leader of poland it just wouldnt be right

[snow rain]

sanatation right is simple enough and very straightforward. also, you can get some fun buffs like -25% xp loss on divs which, when paired with mass mob, is really powerful

[slim nexus]

dont you get cores on all of czechoslovakia or romania as monarchist along with PLC cores if you justify on lithuania with enough compliance

[opal nymph]

Don't compare paths based on their most powerful ones

[snow rain]

probably, Idk, I've never been interested with poland ahist paths

[opal nymph]

I always base how good a path is based on their historicals

Historicals are usually middle of the road

[void bay]

i like to have a few fast smaller divs designed specially for encircling their troops after a push (hole) is made with different divs. i usually wait to push until A.) they messed up or B.) strat bombs have taken out their supply. shortly after this i send some slower bigger divs to hold the line and relieve the quick/small divs from their front lines. rebuilding the supply lines are my top prio for factories during all of this.

[opal nymph]

British tank design:

[slim nexus]

yeah but historical poland is literally CBT bro

especially on historical AI

[opal nymph]

Not really

You can just give up Danzig or the East

Or you go full historical and fight them both

[flat barn]

How do you win that

[opal nymph]

I didn't increase my conscription law as I wanted to play the exile path and I took out 5 mil germans before I capped

I then proceeded to do the Warsaw uprsing and cap the Germans

[heavy vigil]

or both

[flat barn]

kinky path

be submissive to germany and stalin

[opal nymph]

the hundredth partition of Poland

[flat barn]

and then justify on both so they both kill you

[heavy vigil]

gotta go communist puppet then

[flat barn]

but delete your army

this way nobody was hurt in the process

and you get it over with faster

[opal nymph]

Sometimes I wonder what would happen to Japan players if someone played China and deleted all troops, thereby giving Japan 0 XP or general grind

[void bay]

they would be just fine. gaining all that manpower with no cost is kinda huge. would allow them to have 2x the troops if not more than if they fought for it no?

[dusky burrow]

I mean I'd just make those divisions large divisions if I were you, but yeah that can work

[void bay]

the main reason they are smaller is because they will reinforce much faster. the larger the div is, the harder it is to find the "tile allocation" for combat. im not sure what terminology is correct there, but smaller divs = faster reinforcement to active battles

[median wagon]

is it worth getting the dlc subscription

[void bay]

are u planing on playing for a long time, or just want to see what the game has to offer now?

[snow rain]

if you're a casual player that comes back to the game once in a while, sure
but if that's a game you feel like you're gonna spend 100's or thousand of hours in (like me and a lot of others), just wait for a sale and pick the DLCs

[median wagon]

I mean I have 170 hrs and I played with no dlcs up until this point and im not planning to abandon the game but I want to see what the dlcs have to offer

[void bay]

if you're planning on playing this game for potentially years and really like it. just buy them all. if not, get the sub

[median wagon]

okay thanks

[void bay]

get the sub for 1 month

then go from there

[dusky burrow]

Ah yes reinforce rate. But at that point you're supposing a counterattack that would actually work

[void bay]

during the push, they will have ALL their tiles LOCKED in combat if im doing it right. this allows the potential encirclement.

If i didnt prelock all nearby tiles the encirlement would get countered and i would potentiall get encircled myself

[dusky burrow]

Micro does work like that, but then the solution is just to have enough large divisions at your breakthrough points; and if you're using 7 kmh divisions, you can easily rush the remainder of your divisions to your breakthrough points

And that's without using fuel

[void bay]

yes, but its night and day faster with 12 speed over 7. even 8 speed is so much better than 7.

[leaden oyster]

best spot to naval invade japan at?

north or should i just go for tokyo

[void bay]

small divs take less supply, can get into combat faster, and can spread out to hit the full encirclement that much quicker. i never have them hold their line long, as i always have a defense group follow them and hold the line that wont need fuel. i encourage you try build a few small fast divs for encirclement pushes sometime. motorized rocket inf, or motorized towed art/antitank work well for this. if you got really fast tanks that works too. (terrain limitations effect your choices here) . you never want them to hold their line tho. having defense group follow them and hold whatever they can grab is key. the entire purpose of this div is to get cap land fast and get into offensive combat fast. they dont need to have any holding potential, you put that into the defense follow up group.

[void bay]

ports. multiple spots near ports. i almost never do 1 invade by itself.

[crisp wyvern]

funny enough, i unified china as mao zedong and then proceed to become an economic monstrous powerhouse, then build a dozen nuclear reactors, and then nuke east bengal and delhi after i declared war on india (russia was occupied by austria-hungary)

[languid patrol]

i dont have the nuke dlc so im stuck with bad nukes

[languid patrol]

they are good for naval invasions tho

[languid patrol]

ooh

[crisp wyvern]

i only have the dlcs that give all of china, some of britain's colonies, and the balkans a focus tree

i added like a bunch of mods that make nukes balanced but also realistic

that whenever you drop a nuke on x location, it becomes irradiated and troops cannot take, walk or build anything on that tile

[fallen vigil]

lesson learnt never invade soviets late game

[crisp wyvern]

and another one that makes nukes more deadly, like from the 21.3M pop in calcutta and east bengal, only 19M survived 💔

[crisp wyvern]

dont worry, steiner will save you with one of his counterattacks

[dusky burrow]

I've... done that, mostly against enemies that were actually in supply and resisting. These are basically line-holders from my point of view

[crisp wyvern]

and also, im never playing china, ever again

is just, no

suppliless hellscape of doom 😔

[dusky burrow]

If I had to push without the enemy constantly cycle attacking me I'd make like 36 width cav for that purpose

Or 8-width small cav for capping victory points

Bicycle divisions also work for purpose

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/qing-dynasty-china-chinese-dynasty-qing-dynasty-nation-gif-17258228703313257690

[void bay]

true. im usually oil heavy countries so i lean on that. small cavs are really good for non oil countries.

[sudden thistle]

Those arent even dlc

Those are embedded in the game

[crisp wyvern]

now you made me sad

😔

[sudden thistle]

I’m sorry but I had too

[crisp wyvern]

the harsh reality, but certainly, i expected an anwser like that

i used to play rt56 like, a lot

[dusky burrow]

I mean two days ago I was playing as Iran and had to rely on my 32-width mountaineers to encircle people

Because China's lack of supply means lack of oil

[crisp wyvern]

then decided to bomb vanilla hoi4 with some mods that added focus trees, techs, etc, something to spice the vanilla version up so it doesn't get boring that fast

[dusky burrow]

Plus the Allies were naval landing behind my Communist chinese ally

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-4-naval-gif-12542253955591881556

the pinnacle of pain in hoi4 terms

[void bay]

control air, naval invade non stop until u catch them sleeping.

[dusky burrow]

They were easy to clear though since they hadn't yet had those high hardness divisions

[uncut pollen]

[dusky burrow]

But the point is that since the Chinese weren't constantly attacking my units, those 32-width units worked very well

By contrast I doubt they would have worked when I invaded India with bicycle divisions and then had to hole up in Baluchistan

[void bay]

yea, terrain makes all the diff on what to use. mountaineers are kinda op in some areas.

[dusky burrow]

Plua combat width modifiers

[fallen vigil]

pretty decent encirclement

[wintry parrot]

Hello

[slim nexus]

Hi

Dirlewanger

I hope you are a good man

[slim nexus]

What mod?

[fallen vigil]

vanilla hoi4

no mod

[sudden thistle]

I think that’s vanilla 😭

[slim nexus]

I don’t know this

I only play Equestria at war

My favorite mod

Do u guys know this mod

[misty fossil]

Naming yourself after possibly the worst human being to ever walk this planet is amusing

i dont even know what to say

[wintry parrot]

P

[misty fossil]

id rather rename myself adolf hitler

[wintry parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363682223538049077/1398287079070236802/copy_B6078E9E-C0F7-4E60-B04E-0DEF62B02E97.gif

[misty fossil]

no

whats that mod

[median gull]

So if you’re playing a mid-minor nation and get attacked by a bigger power can you win a defensive war?how do you do so?

[crisp wyvern]

john french is a better name than adolf hitler tbh

[misty fossil]

‘annex [tag]’

[misty fossil]

john skibidi

[crisp wyvern]

john fallout

[wintry parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-strange-mob-gif-12413747667150461911

[misty fossil]

john felloff

[real isle]

how do i send a white peace?

or stealmate

to an AI

[misty fossil]

You dont

[real isle]

without focus

[misty fossil]

you just dont

[real isle]

really?

[misty fossil]

Feel free to give it a try

i wouldnt

[real isle]

there is a way?

[misty fossil]

No

[wintry parrot]

Nope

[fallen vigil]

this achievement took me 3 bloody runs

[crisp wyvern]

the title of the achievement already gave you a heads up on how painful it was going to be

[fallen vigil]

and i had to do 3 COLLABS

[split bane]

I got that achievement once by complete accident (I'm pretty sure it was a glitch)
Like I took Stalingrad but when they capped I got it

[crisp wyvern]

you dont know the pain of someone that has to push all the way to the urals because they dont have la resistance dlc

and that someone, is me

[fallen vigil]

chat is this even possible

[silk fern]

i got it by accident too, not sure how because i definetly did not cap them without stalingrad

maybe romania was controlling the state

[split bane]

It is
I never did it tho

[silk fern]

paratroopers

cheese

[misty fossil]

Thats a thing?

[fallen vigil]

achievement doesnt allow for paratroopers

[dusky burrow]

apparently that doesn't work?

[silk fern]

thats stupid, paradox is evil

[dusky burrow]

You can naval invade to kill France however

[real isle]

how do i use my paratroopers

[dusky burrow]

You can't edit divisions as Switzerland? Oof

Should Switzerland get on the bad side of anyone, it's dead meaet

This is Switzerland in 1946

[shy atlas]

goodnight saigon

[dusky burrow]

240k manpower

[real isle]

how do i get my paratroopers to drop?

i have 20 transport planes

and 4 divs

[dusky burrow]

You have too few transport planes

But other than that

Click on the paratroop icon in battle plans, click a blue area (this is where you have available transports) and then click your destination

And then click the battleplan arrow next to your general. Beware, they take off in hours, so really quickly

[real isle]

ok

[dusky burrow]

Also check your air supremacy, it should either be blank or green. If it is red or yellow, you won't launch

Gah this is a 1942 vanilla template

97 piercing

[opal nymph]

You can do a focus to get an actual army

Or you can add battalions to the militia divisions

[dusky burrow]

Oh

That said the AI Swiss have done neither

And it's 1946

Ethiopia is trembling

[serene token]

Any recommendations for a good template?

[dusky burrow]

For what? Defensive or offensive?

[serene token]

Either can do.

I'm just wanting to know any good templates.

Send pics of them and I'll take a look at them.

[misty fossil]

16w inf with shovel, support arty and optional AA, radio for defense

sp meta 36w tank with like 10 meds 8 mech gbp left

assault engineer, field hospital, flame med tank, logistics and armoured radio

mp meta are either 9 heavy TDs with 3 secondary gun, 8 amtracs and 1 armour meme against allies or 10 60% reliability howitzer med tanks and 8 mech against soviet meat wall

same comps

marines are 8 marine batts and 10 mountaineers

all assault templates are 36w

[dusky burrow]

Everyone who says 10 meds makes me rage, the right order is 10 mech 8 meds

[misty fossil]

thats what i (would) use at least

isnt it the other way around

[dusky burrow]

I say this only semi-ironically, like you end up with 28 org that way

[misty fossil]

oh

how much org you get with 10 tanks

full gbp left

like i get 35 org out of this in eaw, granted eaw has a secondary doctrine tree but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just keep org above 30 ig

[dusky burrow]

If you have full GBP it might be better, but you might not have full GBP

[real isle]

how do i drop a nuclear bomb

i have 1

[dusky burrow]

No, I should say with full GBP it is better probably

But yeah that quite a demand

[opal nymph]

Get strategic bombers, do nuclear raid

[dusky burrow]

AA if you're facing CAS, artillery for a bit of soft attack, engineers give defense, logistics for rectifying supply issues, AT when facing tanks, etc etc (second two are MP templates)

[misty fossil]

i mean you dont have to rigidly hold on to the 10/8 ratio

[real isle]

how

[misty fossil]

i only went with 10/8 because i had spare org

[real isle]

its grey

it tell me i need the project

[opal nymph]

Oh, you actually need to finish the special project lmao

You clicked the decision to get the nuke early

Instead of the research boost

[real isle]

yeah

well thanks anyways

[astral furnace]

algm e br?

[hollow anvil]

How to drop nuked?

Nukes

[opal nymph]

Nuclear raid

Get strategic bombers

[hollow anvil]

Yeah where to find that

Where to find the nuclear raid thingy

[opal nymph]

Look bottom right

Then go up

You will see the raids thing

[misty fossil]

dio just asked the same question...

[opal nymph]

Yep

Yes they did

[opal nymph]

@hollow anvil

[misty fossil]

hoi4 minecraft is very fun but idk if im a fan of the ui and designs

[stable trench]

yo anyone got some BANGER mods?

[misty fossil]

it hurts my adhd brain

[haughty basalt]

6 hours they say

[odd osprey]

I have this game on my steam deck and computer

Communism rules

[dusky burrow]

(idk why the cost is off, cost should be more like 11k, and replace the one machine gun with easy maintenance if you have it)
(Also unlike the other guy armored radio is never worth it, it is literally inferior to normal radio)

[buoyant radish]

france just asked for some support equipment i got from the germans somehow

[serene token]

gbp?

[serene token]

Thought he changed his last name to Hitler before WW1?

[trail zinc]

his father changed it

but its a schizo mod

[misty fossil]

why 14w?

[cedar latch]

Invading the world takes forever

[misty fossil]

i feel like that would be stretching it a bit with the lower hp and defence

and the extra reinforcement wouldnt be enough to justify

[dusky burrow]

Mostly to pump out more divisions, 7 is really your minimum

[cedar latch]

The sheer amount of space marines I made

[misty fossil]

i guess

[dusky burrow]

6 if you really stretch it

[misty fossil]

nah 6 is just no no

[dusky burrow]

8 is pretty average, 9 is game standard, you don't need to go beyond 19 width

[dusky burrow]

Speaking of, a marine template you can use, also for this one you can add another mountaineer once you complete doctrines

[misty fossil]

armour meme my beloved

[dusky burrow]

And yes that's your standard tank on there

[misty fossil]

or just general pen meme

what about replacing the med with a heavy td

[dusky burrow]

45 armor won't defend against anything even in singleplayer, it's mainly there for the 100 breakthrough it gives

I mean you could do that I imagine

[misty fossil]

real

not a bad idea tbh

how do i jack up my special forces cap as the us

[dusky burrow]

Of course this is just the MP template but with AA instead of logistics and tank instead of AT

[misty fossil]

why are you using rangers instead of uh

armoured recon

light*

[dusky burrow]

And also that, light armored recon would be in the MP template

[misty fossil]

fair

you dont use that template for mountain attacks right

[dusky burrow]

But it isn't necessary here since this is 1940 SP

You do

[misty fossil]

oh alr

[dusky burrow]

I mean, you barely even have a penalty

[misty fossil]

since you can only fit 1 division in each attack

maybe 3 if you do a multi pronged

[dusky burrow]

Normal penalty is 50%, you nullify 41.3% of that and rangers helps with that

In MP though you want light armored recon for soft attack

[misty fossil]

that template worked pretty well with my us run against japan

(i lost 2 divs in taiwan for some reason but i digress)

sent 20 marine divs and it melted through everything they had in mainland japan

[dusky burrow]

That said a dedicated mountain template would look like this (or you can replace one mountaineer with another tank for even more breakthrough). This is with completed mountaineer doctrine

[misty fossil]

interesting

[misty fossil]

this template still gets a net mountain combat bonus

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, it's 41.3% as I said, but this goes into nullifying the 50%, so it is pretty effective in mountains but you will have more attack in plains

[heavy vigil]

where marine

[icy crescent]

Pink Northern Defense Front.

[sudden grotto]

Even in the tele documentary that they made about Hitler they joked about his old last name

Irl too

[sudden gulch]

How do I make sure D day is successful

[kind vale]

Marines

[coarse trail]

Marines, cas and shore bombardment

[candid forge]

hm

https://tenor.com/view/zhukov-gif-20082782

[trim shore]

Prof that I won haha @civic acorn

[dusky burrow]

@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

Huh

Oh you added marines to it

Genius

[dusky burrow]

Genius?

I thought this was typical

[sudden falcon]

how am i supposed to cap the us brazil AND denmark?

fleet is stuck in turkey

the black sea*

[serene token]

Ah

[serene token]

Its just stuck on the shore of Turkey, it ran ground.

[heavy vigil]

As opposed to the last one named marine without marines

[dusky burrow]

Oh that's because I used the actual marine template... and then replaced the marines to make the mountaineer template

I have unfortunately fell into the trap that I pointed out about these templates

[heavy vigil]

Which one lol

[drifting kiln]

who are u playing as

[sudden falcon]

bulgaria

oh my god

THE FRONTLINE AI

JUST PUT THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN ARMY IN MEXICO IN AN ENCIRCLEMENT

[digital crypt]

i look away for one second

[drifting kiln]

just kill the allies and the soviets and then invade them

or something idfk

[dusky burrow]

I believe someone made templates that called 32.4w mountaineers "pacific" and then the 35-width marine with motorized AT "mountaineers", so that was really confusing

[night lintel]

ah yes gonna kill the allies with no fleet

[heavy vigil]

It works in the pacific

No lie there

[sudden falcon]

its stuck in the black sea

its not even mine

its stolen

[viscid lodge]

I have come to the conclusion I have no idea what I'm doing but still enjoy playing this game. It's like driving a b-22 bomber blindfolded and drunk. I'm bound to have a good time but it's being overtaken by unyielding fear.

[drifting kiln]

airdrop?

[night lintel]

get swarmed by 50 brits divisions

[drifting kiln]

just make another front and they will put all their divs their

or just make diversionary attacks and stuff u will get it eventually

[fair hornet]

was playing r56 with a friend and american ai elected alf landon

[sudden falcon]

"why cant i build in bulgaria?"

the turks invaded me

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[dusky burrow]

BTW 1940 amtrac tanks are a thing too, if you're really struggling to do naval invasions or marshes

Have to post this somewhere, I'm closing this save

[serene token]

Is Mongolia getting a new focus in the DLC?

[cerulean orchid]

ts path lowkey op

[zinc fiber]

Hi hearts of fourians

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-gif-2565793665004539844

[azure plaza]

i dont got no idea how this happened

[buoyant radish]

how were they able to gain naval supremacy?

[serene token]

Is Germany and the two Italian countries fighting each other or something?

[buoyant radish]

i kinda wanna tag over to germany to see how they're doing this

[buoyant radish]

no, its only october 1940

[serene token]

Look at the image.

Because I think they are.

Not the image you posted.

[opal nymph]

What does your naval screen look like?

[drifting kiln]

will these work against albania?

[buoyant radish]

im not playing as the UK

[cerulean orchid]

boom

1939

[opal nymph]

Ah

[buoyant radish]

holy puppets

[cerulean orchid]

i dont like lithuania but they did their civil war

so they were forced to be my puppet

also now i cant really do anything because uk went communist

so theres no reason for me to kill them

[buoyant radish]

lmao

[cerulean orchid]

lmao you might wanna rethink that germany

[buoyant radish]

i mean, you could quickly flip to a different ideology just to flip back once you got a war goal on them

[cerulean orchid]

invading poland early is op

[opal nymph]

They really need to add a post-cap path to Germany to deal with stuff like this

[cerulean orchid]

germany barely had any units i just walked through them bc they were held up on the french front

i wanna get romania but theyre guarenteed by france

[azure plaza]

i geniunely have to idea how this happened

im at war with my puppet

[serene token]

Yea, that whole war is confusing.

[cerulean orchid]

also italian league 😭

[drifting kiln]

will paradox ever fix this shit bro

this is why puppets are useless

[buoyant radish]

this is why non historical is weird af

[serene token]

Eh, free buffer zones.

[azure plaza]

😭

[cerulean orchid]

i also have mexico in my faction

[azure plaza]

also my puppet has a puppet

[cerulean orchid]

so now i have germany poland czechoslovakia lithuania finland chile and mexico in my faction

[serene token]

The hell is going on

[drifting kiln]

=true ig but u dont need those if u are strong enough

[azure plaza]

germany is a satellite of mine and they puppeted italy which if im not mistaken was previously my puppet as well

[buoyant radish]

idk why, but the british has no ships there

[serene token]

Fair

[serene token]

Average AI

[buoyant radish]

friendly ships being german ships

i tagged over to germany rq

[serene token]

What are the British guarding?

[opal nymph]

Maybe their oil reserves are gone

Empty i should say

[buoyant radish]

prob i fact i dragged them into the japanese war years before WWII, is making them focus on them instead the country thats taking over all of europe

[serene token]

Ooh

[opal nymph]

The classic misping lol

[buoyant radish]

im ROC in this game

[serene token]

Yes

[opal nymph]

R56?

[buoyant radish]

yea

i need to also get a war goal on the communist china

oh nvm

idk what changed but i can do war goals on them

after i joined back on the war with japan

[serene token]

Hmm

[buoyant radish]

:D
-# help me

[serene token]

Kill Japan, and then reunite China.

Stupid that Hoi4 is banned in China.

[buoyant radish]

if i kill japan, then the US won't intervene with the germans

[serene token]

Is Japan a Republic now?

[buoyant radish]

they gotta keep their version of history true to everyone interacting, and in china

[atomic grove]

how tf is himmler leader even though they didnt reach berlin yet

[serene token]

Which is stupid, its a alt history/strategy game.

And if I recall, it also had something to do with Taiwan.

Might need to fact check that.

[atomic grove]

i think hoi4 is banned in china because the chinese cliques exist

[digital crypt]

I have no clue, they lost so Wilhelm Is in power now

[atomic grove]

i kinda forgot

[buoyant radish]

ah yes

tibet

[atomic grove]

yeah

[buoyant radish]

they dont like people in china knowing about its true history

[serene token]

Yea, thanks to censorship.

[buoyant radish]

only the history they make, which makes the communist party look like liberators

[atomic grove]

i mean its communist propaganda

makes sense that they wouldn't want the majority of their people know that their government are like that

[serene token]

Literal 1984 stuff.

[sudden falcon]

1943 usa

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[sudden falcon]

how do i invade as the balkans

[atomic grove]

u dont

its impossible

[atomic grove]

i mean it is possible but i dont think you want to wait like 10 years building a strong navy

[sudden falcon]

i dont have any navy researched

[atomic grove]

then you're basically never going to get to the usa

[serene token]

First step: Don't, it's not worth it, save your sanity.

[dusky burrow]

People in China generally do not think that China should be the way it was in freaking 1936, I don't get what the holdup is

[sudden falcon]

this stupid achievement

[buoyant radish]

if they're at war with taiwan, they've always been at war with taiwan fr fr

[sudden falcon]

because the usa

decided to join a nordic faction

[dusky burrow]

The 1920s and 1940s are like the worst parts of modern Chinese history

[gusty oracle]

my history class is brainrot

[sudden falcon]

sweden created this faction

then left

i have to cap denmark brazil and the usa

[gusty oracle]

smart move

[sudden falcon]

and ill get my achievement

[serene token]

Thought the worst part was the century of humiliation?

[serene token]

True

[sudden falcon]

i had to delete an entire army worths of divs

so they wouldnt get encircled

[dusky burrow]

I mean, we're talking about some of the worst parts of that century of humiliation, remember it stretches from the Opium war in 1839 to the Korean War in 1950

[sudden falcon]

we're gonna do some island hopping

we gotta invade iceland

i mean

greenland

[atomic grove]

i dont think you're gonna get anywhere with invading labrador

no supply + huge provinces = stalemate

[sudden falcon]

here's what we're gonna do

we're gonna invade greenland

because my navy has like a 1 tile range

[dusky burrow]

I mean the worst part of that was the 1850s and 1860s with the near apocalyptic Taiping rebellion + literally dozens of other revolts consuming nearly all of China and killing tens of millions

[serene token]

Looked it up, it ended in 1949, with the establishment of the CCP.

[silk fern]

holy shit i exiled joseph kennedy to japan and he couped the government and made himself emperor

[buoyant radish]

i wonder why the CCP being created was the end of the century of humiliation

[atomic grove]

civil war speedrun

[serene token]

What mod are you playing?

[silk fern]

usa rework

[buoyant radish]

according to google im guessing

[dusky burrow]

"monarchy in exile"

legitimate government is monarchy

[sudden falcon]

if i nuke a country enough will they surrender

[gusty oracle]

yes but you also must take land

[serene token]

cough cough Censorship, "great leap forward", etc. cough cough

[sudden falcon]

so if i take 0 land they dont surrender

[gusty oracle]

tens of millions dead

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's why I dated it to the Korean War because that's when China showed itself as a capable power on the world stage whose interests can't be ignored

[gusty oracle]

yeah

[sudden falcon]

cant even island hop to hawaii

[serene token]

Indeed, and lets not forget oppression of the people.

[sudden falcon]

or alaska

my best chance is to invade canada

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, but that is not humiliation inflicted by others that's just self-inflicted

And yeah those weren't good parts of Chinese history either

[buoyant radish]

is it normal for the ccp to make tibet and xinjang clique puppets?

[serene token]

I was replying to third, who was saying he was wondering why the CCP being created was the end of the century of humiliation.

[buoyant radish]

i dont focus on asia more than i should

[dusky burrow]

I know

[dusky burrow]

Huh

[sudden falcon]

atleast i own the bosphorus

my fleet isnt trapped in the black sea

[dusky burrow]

Tibet maybe, because they don't have cores there. Xinjiang, probably not

[serene token]

Anyways I'ma hit the hay, pray that no Chinese ops break into where I live assassinate me for speaking the truth.

Have fun guys.

[dusky burrow]

You too

[buoyant radish]

they got cores in xinjang

is there a different way for the US to wake up from their isolation?

beside japan bombing Peral harbor

[sudden falcon]

f me

american garrison in greenland

nvm its weak as hell

yayyy they capped

[haughty gulch]

I'm playing as facist brazil, and I've taken argentina, paraguay, suriname, and guinea. should i puppet these?

[sudden falcon]

i think you can core all of south america

wait

couldnt i start a coup in the us

[dusky burrow]

Yes you can core all of South America as Brazil in any path I believe

[sudden falcon]

so i would have a land border

[dusky burrow]

I know you can do it for nonaligned and democratic

[heavy vigil]

No lar?

[sudden falcon]

lar?

[heavy vigil]

La resistance dlc

[buoyant radish]

you could, but at some point they would prob break free depending on their focuses

[haughty gulch]

i dont see an option

[sudden falcon]

i have la resistance

[haughty gulch]

to do that

except for uruguay

which i already cored

[heavy vigil]

Ok then doing a coup is like 500x harder

[gusty oracle]

why would you do it then

[sudden falcon]

because i dont want to spend the next 3 hours building a navy

[buoyant radish]

you'll have to

ive had to so i can invade the Japanese home islands

[dusky burrow]

Yeah navy is an investment, but what else are you going to do

[haughty gulch]

nvm i see the focus to core

[sudden falcon]

could i disable la resistance then reload in

and still get achievements

[gusty oracle]

paradrop

[sudden falcon]

i'd rather do navy than that

[gusty oracle]

so would I but its an option

[opal nymph]

Paradrops are fun

Until state AA exists

[sudden falcon]

its 1944 and the bulgarians havent learnt what artillery on a boat is

IM GONNA KMS

HOLLY SHIT

F YOU UK

mfers decided to declare war on my puppet for no reason

this game sucks

7 hour long achievement save ruined because the americans decide to join a random faction when they werent at war

[copper cobalt]

Many such cases

[opal nymph]

Guess we kill the US i guess

[copper cobalt]

Nothing ruins a run quicker than having to go be a conquistador through the new world

[opal nymph]

What country were you playing

[copper cobalt]

they should just allow a peace out option with the us if you hold out long enough

[buoyant radish]

what should i do so im not playing trench warfare: the war in tibet

[sudden falcon]

bulgaria

communist path

was trying to get that achievement for holding all my cores after declaring balkan union

but you have to own and i occupied all of europe

[opal nymph]

Oof, that is going to be one heck of a trip to get to the US

[sudden falcon]

the americans joined the nordic faction when they werent at war and after sweden left

[opal nymph]

Did you annex France? You get a tiny little island off the coast of Canada

[sudden falcon]

they were with the us

same for italy

italy left then joined turkey's faction tho so i got a turkish and italian puppet

[opal nymph]

Wait, did you steal navies

Or no BBA

[sudden falcon]

i stole the

italian german dutch and belgian i forgot turkish

[opal nymph]

Sweet, you can do the classic island hop to Iceland, Greenland, and Newfoundland

You have puppets i assume, and they can hold the frontline as you do pushes and such

[sudden falcon]

i cored all of balkans

i puppeted turkey and italy and annexed bosphorus for achievement

then gave occupation of france to italy

and had benelux puppets and a german puppet

@opal nymph yugo balkanized and had a civil war + greece joined the communist yugo's faction

[muted pecan]

im so excited for the japan and china update ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[heavy vigil]

Never

[misty fossil]

naval is so weird

you get like 2 decisive battles and their surface fleet is gone in the span of a month or whatever

me when i only get 2 dopamine bursts

[dusky burrow]

It will kill my naval invasions :sadge:

As someone who spent a lot of time micro-ing navy

Build good light cruisers, you will lose a lot of screens

[misty fossil]

real

just uh

[dusky burrow]

Attack when the enemy has low organization

[misty fossil]

throw medium navs over the pacific

ez

[dusky burrow]

Because that means their stats are trashed

Yeah navs too

[heavy vigil]

Malta

[misty fossil]

takes care of any submarine problems

[dusky burrow]

Malta too

On the other hand, use your submarines as bait

If you're fighting AI

Because then they will spend their time running over the subs, which will decrease their organization and allow you to strike

[buoyant radish]

well

[dusky burrow]

So yeah, that's how you have a fun naval game in an inferior position

[buoyant radish]

i declared war on communist china

can you guess what happened next?

THEY JOINED THE DAMN COMINTERN

[dusky burrow]

Oh classic

[buoyant radish]

anyway im now marching my way though siberia

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[spiral lodge]

Why would france declare war on the uk? That doesn't seem right?

[dusky burrow]

Wait what?

[buoyant radish]

is historical off?

[spiral lodge]

It's historical, vanilla

[buoyant radish]

1. the glint
2. why is it sideways
3. screenshot it

😭

[spiral lodge]

Aaaaa, that's so much work...

[buoyant radish]

i am going to make you have to march though siberia

irl

[dusky burrow]

Sounds like a bug

How do they even do it so soon

[buoyant radish]

check france's focus tree?

idfk

i would just restart whatever you were doing

[spiral lodge]

Nah, they gon get it

Fafo

[heavy vigil]

Are you historical

[spiral lodge]

I didn't change any settings when starting the game

[heavy vigil]

Maybe he deleted his navy for fun

Or something

[heavy vigil]

Yes but what path are you doing

[spiral lodge]

I did break the treaty and then gave in to American pressure

[spiral lodge]

Democratic

[heavy vigil]

Ah

And then didnt actually downsize navy?

That gives them wargoals

[spiral lodge]

Oh I see.

[buoyant radish]

finally

[sacred breach]

Why in the non-historical mode they repeat the same thing lol

Like every time Peru declares war on Ecuador

And Germany declares war on Poland then gives eastern Poland to Soviet Union then declar war on them

...

[lethal ether]

nothing better than some hoi4 during rain and thunder ☺️

[sacred breach]

You have rain and thunder right now?😭

[lethal ether]

yes

[copper cobalt]

yes

[hoary mortar]

eepy