hoi4-general

[hybrid galleon]

Or Sweden too, it’s a wild time

[lethal ether]

what about commie nations

[deft agate]

The only ship i wanted to Sink Escaped

[hybrid galleon]

Good god those casualties

[dry abyss]

Poland ig

Buy Liberia out

[magic pecan]

what happend....

[deft agate]

I blew them up :3

Torpedo Spam is Unbeatable

[jade hinge]

tf

[dry abyss]

Super heavy battleship moment

[hybrid galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-brando-walking-fabulous-epic-gif-14680976

That one ship

[dry abyss]

That ship is a road roller

[hybrid galleon]

Fr

[dry abyss]

🙏

[jade hinge]

what the hell is this

how dare they

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout76-nuke-friends-bomb-nuclear-gif-24994103

[wary sparrow]

I've played for so long that Elizabeth became queen

lol

[plush drift]

Then im invading you

[grave breach]

crazy

[exotic bridge]

that's determination

[uncut pollen]

ânnex @exotic bridge

[rustic furnace]

Pretty sure they just dont close the game ever due to load times

People with Harddrives tend to do that

[uncut pollen]

annex @exotic bridge

[exotic bridge]

what

[sharp sierra]

whatdoes that mean

nobody shoul;d get moderated for saying that

[exotic bridge]

am I being touched or invaded???

how do you annex a person

[uncut pollen]

I dont wanna invade you so i annexed you

[sharp sierra]

ur gonna capitulate to me

[uncut pollen]

Your mine now

[dusk patrol]

@wooden saffron

[exotic bridge]

waht nooo

[wooden saffron]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dusk patrol]

can u imagine a bird for me

[exotic bridge]

I dont' wanna be annexed

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/run-steal-gif-14128691

[exotic bridge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grave breach]

discipline

[uncut pollen]

Too late

Your in my celler now

[dusk patrol]

mARCo IMAGINE a bird without wing please

[exotic bridge]

can I at least have chocolate milk

[uncut pollen]

You can have a bretzel

[exotic bridge]

why is it crippled

[wooden saffron]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[uncut pollen]

It isnt crippled

[dusk patrol]

@grave breach look at otto von perhabsburg pfp

[uncut pollen]

Its an normal bretzel

[exotic bridge]

it looks like it's smiling at me

[uncut pollen]

Did you never eat or see an bretzel?

[exotic bridge]

I've never seen one that looks like t hat

but I'll take it

I haven't eaten in like 8 hours

[uncut pollen]

Every bretzel looks like that

[exotic bridge]

that's not true

[uncut pollen]

I want to see your bretzels than

[hybrid solstice]

are there aany tips for fightning turkey as italy or in general? lol

like where to invade or what to attack

[exotic bridge]

just quit

[sharp sierra]

in 1937 im guessing

[hybrid solstice]

😔

so they didnt lie

the turks are undefeatable

[sharp sierra]

the turks are nothing

[exotic bridge]

they're defeatable it's just harder as italy

[sharp sierra]

theyre especially weak as hell in the beginning of the game

how is it harder as italy

u can do whatever u want

[exotic bridge]

what do I even do

[hybrid solstice]

i tried multiple strategies

[exotic bridge]

🥨

that's what it should look like

[hybrid solstice]

such as attacking constantinopole

invading multiple key areas

nothing works 😔

[sharp sierra]

ur units are probably bad

[hybrid solstice]

my troops are too weak and the industry is trash

yeah

[exotic bridge]

defualt italy divisions are literally dogshit

[sharp sierra]

what year

[uncut pollen]

Yeah the mouth is usualy bigger but thats how they look likr

[hybrid solstice]

1937

[sharp sierra]

it shouldnt be a struggle doing that as italy

put rangers in ur infantry

[exotic bridge]

is it? mine are less happy and more depressed but thank you for the pretzel I like pretzels they taste good

[hybrid solstice]

hmm okay

[sharp sierra]

u should have air too

[uncut pollen]

Yeah i like them too i love them

[hybrid solstice]

air is luckily not a problem

[hybrid solstice]

do i upgrade the mountaineer tree more tho?

[exotic bridge]

do you have bratwursts? maybe some schnitzels?

[sharp sierra]

yeah why not

well

maybe not actually

[uncut pollen]

No i dont have a bratwurst

Wtf

[sharp sierra]

theres not that many good buffs in the next few doctrines

just save it maybe

[hybrid solstice]

okay

[sharp sierra]

the xp i mean

[uncut pollen]

Nope im gonna have to buy them in an kaufland

[hybrid solstice]

thanks for the tips

[exotic bridge]

😔

[sharp sierra]

show us screenshots

if u try again

[exotic bridge]

us?

[hybrid solstice]

sure

[sharp sierra]

i dont attack from the islands you posses either

[hybrid solstice]

yeah i dont either

it seems unnecessary

[sharp sierra]

i think i naval invaded along the southern coast where theres some plains tiles or something

[hybrid solstice]

will try

[fallen vigil]

i dont understand why people hate on graveyard of empires

i enjoyed that dlc

i finally finished playing all nations

[sharp sierra]

its better now for sure

it is super buggy tho still

especially the anglo soviet war

always something messing up somehow

[uncut pollen]

Tommorow

[sharp sierra]

but like you release that half assed trash and then try to sell a cash grab plushie right after thats not a good look

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[sharp sierra]

and the price too

[uncut pollen]

But here a german beer

https://tenor.com/view/beer-german-entertainmeplz-alcohol-happy-gif-11982417

[exotic bridge]

holy shit

that's actually impressive to carry that

[uncut pollen]

I love octoberfest

[uncut pollen]

If you have enough balance and big hands and drink beer the whole day its not that hard

[exotic bridge]

I'll start practicing

never been to an octoberfest but it looks fun

[uncut pollen]

Good luck in my cellar

[uncut pollen]

It is if you have enough money

[exotic bridge]

how much money would I need?

[warped flint]

rate my encirclement

[hazy dew]

seen and done better, 4.5 out of 10

[warped flint]

That feels a lil harsh

[exotic bridge]

8.3/10

[warped flint]

Now thats better

[exotic bridge]

his life is hoi

[sharp sierra]

thats just how miserable hoi4 players

are

[warped flint]

I think uks manpower is running out

[uncut pollen]

Anyways im gonna go shower and than im going to bed

Bye @exotic bridge

[exotic bridge]

alright goodnight kidnapper

[uncut pollen]

Im not an kidnapper

[warped flint]

They went to all adults serve

[uncut pollen]

Im an woman and thats how i got my ex boyfriend

[sharp sierra]

prove ur a woman

[exotic bridge]

well didn't you take me to your cellar against my will

[neat kayak]

Someone down for a coop game ?

In like 30 minutes

[exotic bridge]

she doesn't have to

[uncut pollen]

Do you want to be in cellar?

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/simp-simping-yelling-meryl-streep-shouting-gif-17852144

[exotic bridge]

yeah kinda you have pretzels so

[exotic bridge]

I'm not the one asking for proof bruh

[uncut pollen]

Nice

[sharp sierra]

chivalry isnt dead

[uncut pollen]

And im gonna make more

[sudden thistle]

ok

i have looked at ur hoi4 save

and its bad

[sharp sierra]

can i have it

does sje jave alol dlc

all

[uncut pollen]

List the mistakes pls

[sudden thistle]

yeah

[sudden thistle]

ok

u did recovering economy

[exotic bridge]

how long have you been fighting

[sudden thistle]

ur stuck with the 75% consumer goods debuff

[uncut pollen]

I did the 4 year plan

[warped flint]

6 years now i believe

started the war in 1938

[sudden thistle]

nuh uh

actually do u mind hopping in a vc rq?

so i dont need to type this all out

[warped flint]

I think they did the deceison right when the war starts to switch to this

[uncut pollen]

Ok but im showering rn

[sudden thistle]

i can wait a bit dw

[uncut pollen]

Ok thanks

[sudden grotto]

Has anyone ever used the air force army group?

[uncut pollen]

Thats an ss of my focus tree btw

[sharp sierra]

maybe they nevecr got autarky or whatever and then just did repay the bills

[uncut pollen]

Whats wrong with it?

[sudden thistle]

its funny lol

[uncut pollen]

Communist china in taiwan?

(Thats not an country in rl)

@sudden thistle in wich vc should we go?

[sudden thistle]

the helping lounge

[uncut pollen]

Okiii

[sudden thistle]

my discord is glitchy so its lagging if i try to join it

[uncut pollen]

@sudden thistle götterdämmerung

I have götterdämmerung

[gleaming acorn]

segma male

[deft agate]

Sank the IJN Shinano Last Yamato Class Finally

[uncut pollen]

@sudden thistle i have no questions

Anyways gn

[sudden thistle]

do army focuses
build more air
better tanks
better army, no horses just do infantry
do ur eco tree
ally japan instead of China
lock in

[solemn crown]

hey

[gleaming acorn]

6767676

[solemn crown]

i need help with the game

[drifting sun]

Good afternoon fellow nerds

[sharp sierra]

ok

[heavy vigil]

Gn flowi

[uncut pollen]

Ok got it

[exotic bridge]

i have a cheesesteak its so good

[uncut pollen]

Did you smugle food in my cellar?

[exotic bridge]

maybe

[zenith imp]

when was this discord server made

[sharp sierra]

had to hjave been ages ago

maybe as old as discord even

[uncut pollen]

Arent my bretzels good enough😭

[exotic bridge]

80 years ago

[exotic bridge]

they are but i need protein

[uncut pollen]

Fair enough

[zenith imp]

do you think rommel escaped germany so he can persue a peaceful internet life and develop a game called hearts of iron four

[exotic bridge]

precisely

icant sprll bruh

[uncut pollen]

Me too

[proud tapir]

ok wow is gotterdammerung Hungary fun
I literaly only did political focuses until i had 95% of my old territory for free

And this time, Romania gave me all of transylvania too

not just the North

[exotic bridge]

They put too many jalapeños on my cheesestrak

Im not built for this

[uncut pollen]

Im gonna give you a bucket

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-bucket-team-fortress-tf-gif-15812649

[silk fern]

i fear that the east asia dlc will allow the philipines to steal macarthur and dwight

[exotic bridge]

I think its a bucket

[uncut pollen]

I think so too

[junior turret]

hello gentlemen, quick question

does USA start with the P-26 or the P-36

[sharp sierra]

uhh

basic small airframe

[exotic bridge]

Both

They're both peashootrrs

[sharp sierra]

rank 1

[exotic bridge]

So id figure youd get both

[exotic bridge]

Reserves💔

[junior turret]

@exotic bridge heh

[exotic bridge]

I've never grinned air past 3.7

Grinded

[junior turret]

i think u need more than 10 buddy

[sharp sierra]

its only because of this

[exotic bridge]

Oh my god

[junior turret]

hvae u tried building more mils?

@gleaming hemlockstop being cringe

[round crypt]

fr

[sharp sierra]

yea in dutch east indie

cuz im doing move government to batavia path

[junior turret]

hes deleting comments but ill leave this here

[exotic bridge]

bruh

why is he spamming

[junior turret]

cuz he cringe

not much to it

taking about cringe, who wanna see my catboy cosplay? nya =0w0=

[heavy vigil]

Cute :3

[sharp sierra]

ok yea

[exotic bridge]

catboys play hoi4?

[sharp sierra]

yea like u

[exotic bridge]

now I gotta add that to the hoi4 player spectrum

[exotic bridge]

never talk to me again

[sharp sierra]

ur that whether u want to be or not

sounds like im right

[exotic bridge]

never

[sharp sierra]

like a spoonful of lucky charms

all from the same cereal box

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[safe wing]

Accurate

[sharp sierra]

🤨

[round crypt]

this man might be a lil annoying

[safe wing]

<@&846894118219022336> spam

[uncut pollen]

Real

[exotic bridge]

I meant what I said

[sudden grotto]

Imagine not forming kalmar because sweden still has gotland 💔

[exotic bridge]

is this your current situation?

[fallow grove]

What signal company does

[junior turret]

if a spam is targeted unto someone, its not spam its harrasment

[heavy vigil]

<@&846894118219022336> spam

[brave steeple]

for some reason these trains are goijng in a infinite loop

[sudden grotto]

Sadly 💔

[exotic bridge]

I have a solution

bomb themn

[sudden grotto]

pain

[sudden grotto]

No mp to deploy

( the ss was took during no garrison policy lol )

[exotic bridge]

oh

[sudden grotto]

I saw a schizo

[exotic bridge]

gng be quiet

[sudden grotto]

Get evaporated

[obtuse lodge]

why dont the spies have portraits?

[sudden grotto]

Strange, you should have the generic ones at least

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[lethal ether]

why he keep pinging u

?

[round crypt]

i've muted him in a private group and now he's mad about the situation

[sudden grotto]

200 iq move lol

Ban speedrun

[exotic bridge]

that's just kinda petty why can't he let it go

[lethal ether]

hes stimming

[spring hedge]

how do u make a collaboration government in an occupied territory?

do they have to ask you

i have higher than 80% compliance

[sharp sierra]

theres a decision tab

[sudden grotto]

Higher complaince

Look into the occupied National tab

Nations*

You Will see the different buffs by High compliance and the higher One gives you a collab gov

[spring hedge]

oh for some reason france cant make collabs

uhhh

huh

[sudden grotto]

Because they are a democracy

Democracies cant

[spring hedge]

oh ok ill get that out of the way soon

ty

[sudden grotto]

No prob

[brave steeple]

WHY DO THEY KEEP GOING FROM 1 PORT TO ANOTHER

[junior turret]

do u think the devs hate their players

[exotic bridge]

hate is a harsh word

[lethal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/justdoit-gif-844540949369878435

[candid pecan]

guys i made a mod but whatever i put in in wont work

[junior turret]

like a customer service person, "man i hate this customers but i mean they pay for our work"

[sudden grotto]

Because they didnt add taboritsky in vanilla? Yes

[brave steeple]

WHY ISNT THIS CONNECTED WHATSOEVER

[lethal ether]

thats a dumb question why would they hate the people giving them money

[sharp sierra]

they probably dont hate us just think that we are stupid

[fierce prism]

How come?

[brave steeple]

there are 100% game devs who just hate their players when it comes to balancing (mainly certain fps games)

but in general i dont think devs hate players

[lethal ether]

balancing what

[brave steeple]

r6 siege balancing is very... something (cs is better)

[sharp sierra]

r6 looks like a mobile game

[brave steeple]

rainbow six siege

[lethal ether]

put yourself in thier place. you make a game, it becomes succsessful and it makes you rich as fork. do you hate some nobodies you dont even know thay give you money?

[fierce prism]

They probably do hate atleast one

Like there's bound to be someone they know that they hate playing it

[brave steeple]

they say in their balance that devolves to 'what you think is right is wrong'

r6 is mid anyway

[fierce prism]

Just any dev

[brave steeple]

ye

[candid pecan]

are any of u guys modders

[brave steeple]

most devs of any game ofc they dont hate their players

but i mean there is at least 1

[sudden grotto]

#modding

[brave steeple]

and if i had to pick 1 game

[fierce prism]

" ah shit i hate Steve and he just bought hoi4"

[brave steeple]

where the game devs hate their players

the most likely dev that hates their players is prob a r6 siege dev personally

(this is more of r6 being bad at balancing)

[lethal ether]

that means they know them personally. you dont just pick a random person and say YOU I HATE YOU! and you cant necessarily say they hate thier players because one of them is a criminal or worse, right?

[brave steeple]

which doesnt count as its 'players'

[fierce prism]

I doubt they hate their players but they most definetely can hate a player

[lethal ether]

exactlu

exactly

[sudden grotto]

"i wonder how the french navy Is"
25-50 ships
Danish sealion aint happening.

[spring hedge]

why did me proclaiming the third empire half my compliance in all occupied territory

bro

[sudden grotto]

Third empire?

You mesnt third rome

[spring hedge]

france napoleon path

[sudden grotto]

Oh

[heavy vigil]

Changing government halves your compliance globally

[spring hedge]

worst feature ever

[fierce prism]

No it makes some sense

[spring hedge]

everyone sent me the event message for a collab too

[viscid drift]

first time playing hoi4 im cooking

[fierce prism]

Real shit?

[viscid drift]

very cooking yes yes

[fierce prism]

Ah

[sudden grotto]

Bro Is cooking ngl

[spring hedge]

yes bro

[fierce prism]

No air?

[viscid drift]

no nothing

[fierce prism]

Dayum

[spring hedge]

who needs planes

[sudden grotto]

I think he didnt build AA

[viscid drift]

i did

i watched bittersteel

but somehow i am not wining

[sudden grotto]

It wss ironic 💔

[viscid drift]

i dont understand the jokes yet sorry

[sudden grotto]

Well First of all put your front Lines only on your territory, hungary can hold on their own

[fierce prism]

AA is not a magic tool

[sudden grotto]

And put a field marschal too

[viscid drift]

fun fact

hungary did more than me

[fierce prism]

Yeah cus air, maybe

Show theaters

And commanders etc

[viscid drift]

already left

[fierce prism]

Ah

[viscid drift]

i am not gonna watch this agony of a save

[fierce prism]

Jajajajajaja

[viscid drift]

this is a real disaster save

[fierce prism]

Yep

[viscid drift]

i need someone to hop on a call and tech me hoi4 from start

i made the exact same div as the disaster save

and same cas

everything

[fierce prism]

Ehh just get air up and you'll notice an immediate improvement

[fierce prism]

Show

[viscid drift]

i told you i already left

i will send all ss tommorow

[fierce prism]

You just said you made the same div, though excluding mentioning when. I assumed you meant now

[viscid drift]

ah

so

i am gonna go sleep

good night my fellow hoi4 players

[dusky burrow]

It makes some sense in the typical situatoin where you're an invading power taking over someone else's noncore territory

It doesn't when it's the same government

[sudden grotto]

i am cooked

[sharp sierra]

so i tried to cheat the move government to batavia path and i recruited 2 billion indionesian troops

well wehn the focus annexxed them i got no manpower from deleting the units

and the indonesian states are just empty of manpower

so i have nothing

[viscid drift]

2 billion 😭

[sharp sierra]

i have 145000 manpower in total to play with including my 6 marines

[slim nexus]

Whyd you go communist

[sharp sierra]

how stupid

[slim nexus]

You get more than enough manpower from coring the nordics

[sudden grotto]

because achievements

[sudden grotto]

if mfing sweden didnt hold gotland i would have far more mp rn

its so joever.

I wss so close to success...but no, Italy had to ruin it

[exotic bridge]

great war redux mod is so awesome if I tarrif the shit out of my allies I get more money

[brave steeple]

and then in vic 3 you get to tarrif to get the amount in hoi4 terms 0.1% - consumer goods factor

[west sequoia]

rate my division

[sudden grotto]

FOR DANMARK 🗣️

[wary sparrow]

is it not just a basic one?

[wary sparrow]

gets immediately capped in 6 hours

[west sequoia]

You're right

i forgot to add AA

[slim nexus]

Whats your intended use for it?

[west sequoia]

frontline holding the line

[slim nexus]

Then you could really abandon the support artilley, support artillery is good but not worth it since it is infantry

[sudden grotto]

jokes on you

[hardy marlin]

gangatron that is not enough divisions

[slim nexus]

Soft attack has very minimal effect when it comes to pure defense

[sudden grotto]

Ngl they are lol

[west sequoia]

why do you say that

[sharp sierra]

lies

[hardy marlin]

what is ts map gng 💔

[sharp sierra]

keep the arty company in the unit

[slim nexus]

You can still hit the enemies org but nothing like when you attack

[sudden grotto]

Ww3

[slim nexus]

Its not worth it

[wary sparrow]

wait you arent fighting germany

who are you fighting

[hardy marlin]

soft (and hard) attack is the best thing that comes to defence gng

[sudden grotto]

I capped them long ago lol

[slim nexus]

Yeah youre right let me use tank divisions to defend

Youre misinformed

The best thing for defense is defense and org

[sudden grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826464137114681404/1410752656892235936/Hearts_of_Iron_IV_2025.08.29_-_00.26.46.02.png?ex=68b2294b&is=68b0d7cb&hm=a297869fc55256b9893a6e93a37d642c746850d82b39c62f8737166105d65377&

[slim nexus]

Soft attack only attack the enemies org

[wary sparrow]

hrmmmm

[hardy marlin]

exactly bro 💔 🥀

[slim nexus]

If you dont have org then youll get critted and youre gonna retreat

[wary sparrow]

seems uh

quite the predicament

[hardy marlin]

do you know what critted means

deadass

[slim nexus]

It does nothing if they have enough org to attack and breakthrough

Ur saying soft attack is like the most important thing in an inf div

[sudden grotto]

Danmark never fails fr fr

[hardy marlin]

critted is to do with defence and breakthrough gangalang

[slim nexus]

Yes

Its when your enemy hits your org

[hardy marlin]

the best thing for defence is high org and loads of divisions on mass mob

[wary sparrow]

until you get declared on by china

[slim nexus]

And to stop that you have to have enough defence to counter the enemies soft attack or hard attack and enoguh org to take it

[slim nexus]

Explain how soft attack helps with defence

[hardy marlin]

and if your doing it properly you have loads of soft attack AND defence in your inf

[slim nexus]

If your enemnies div has 20 org then maybe

[sudden grotto]

They are neutral so i dont care lol

[sharp sierra]

well we could argue or you could go test it and change my mind

its not like i really know what im talking about

[wary sparrow]

well good luck against the world

[sudden grotto]

Meeeh i Just Need to get uk and nuke Gotland and i am done

[hardy marlin]

when def scales past breakthrough then it becomes useless, if an enemy has 200 breakthrough and you have 500 defence then the extra 300 defence is worthless, your already blocking most of the attack, and soft or hard attack is what reduces the enemy org and strength

i dont know what you dont understand here

[slim nexus]

Not trying to be nasty but youre understanding of breakthrough is wrong

Breakthrough is an offensive stat to block enemyt defensive divisions attack you

[sudden grotto]

danmark rules the skies.

[slim nexus]

Its like the defence stat for offensive divisions to let you keep attacking longer

Soft attack is what you mean

[hardy marlin]

yeah

but then what would the defence stat be used for?

the same exact thing

[slim nexus]

If they have more soft attack they can use the soft attack to crit your org rather than use it breaking ur defence

And then its dice rolls

Ur talking as if you know how hoi4 combat works

But you mixed breakthrough and soft attack up

[heavy vigil]

Defense and breakthrough dont interact.

[hardy marlin]

mb i havent slept in 3 days

[heavy vigil]

Go sleep :)

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-hassle-dropped-your-dogs-mkultra-killphrase-activated-bitch-gif-18117870

[hardy marlin]

no chance

[slim nexus]

Defence blocks soft attack to an extent then after your defence is finished, your enemy can use the rest of the soft attack for dice rolls against your org

So the higher the defence the better the chance you can stop an attack

Soft attack has no direct impact on YOUR divisions defense

Unless their division has like 20 org

And no brekathrough

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-hassle-rage-gauge-shopping-cart-trolley-gif-21651302

[exotic bridge]

mexican gangs are on my border

should I be concerned

[slim nexus]

Graphics mod king x

[exotic bridge]

what?

[sharp sierra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3428996970&searchtext=astizel

[sudden grotto]

if i can get at least 70% air..i could paradrop behind them, force attck them and kill them all...technically..

[snow rain]

critical lack of support AA
also, engineers are expensive but they're good if you can afford it
would be a 10/10 with AA

[slim nexus]

It could be 16 width

[sharp sierra]

bitter steels alt over here

[exotic bridge]

you'd be encircling them while encericling yourself

[slim nexus]

What graphics mod do you use

[exotic bridge]

I don't know

[sudden grotto]

Those lads Will be a sscrifice for a greater denmark...

[sharp sierra]

i recognize that font it hink its like authentic map mod or something

[slim nexus]

Blawg what

[sharp sierra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3491928466&searchtext=map it might be this one

[slim nexus]

Idk it doesnt look liek that one imo

[snow rain]

if you para behind them and force attack you'll lose both your paras and ground troops because they'll still be fully supplied through kiel and you definitely won't push out a deathstack of troops under enemy air superiority accross a river

[slim nexus]

Nvm it does

Im tripping

[sharp sierra]

its similar but i think youre right about it not being the particular one

[sudden grotto]

True 🙏 but Steiner Will guide them

[snow rain]

18w is a better rounder except in forests/jungle but it also has higher stats

[slim nexus]

No it is

Im fairly certain

[sudden grotto]

Otherwise i can let them cross the River, and then paradrop behind

[snow rain]

would be better, but you'll encounter resistance on kiel almost certainly

also, you'd need air supremacy to para in the first place

[sudden grotto]

I am desperate fr fr 🙏 i cant even get the adult serves because low pp and i dont have the 70 ws needed

[sudden grotto]

Well i am already good with a 1/10 kd

[spring hedge]

i was so locked man i had all my troops ready to push germany while they were weak and cook them as france, they didnt even have any stability cuz they never picked a focus after civil war, and i get blitzkreiged like i dont even have troops on my borders, bro what are the divs germany is making??? do they just get like 100000 combat buffs???

[sudden grotto]

Fk It, Imma Just get the nuke for the nuking achivement and leave this cursed play

Danelaw can wait

[snow rain]

and good paratroopers which require both air supremacy, transport planes, air support (CAS), to at least have a hope of dropping successfully
then they need to be quite beefy (16w at the bare minimum) with good equipment to be able to hold their own for long enough and even be able to tackle some resistance if there are troops on the port

[sudden grotto]

Uk could be at least useful by invading france but no, they tried One time and they Just Camp in their Island now

[exotic bridge]

I win

[sudden grotto]

Gotta consript the whole dane population lol

[snow rain]

they don't get much buffs, no
however if you rushed the war as france, your divs were probably trash and ill equipped

[sudden grotto]

I COULD HAVE THE MP

But mfing sweden ruined it

And. I couldnt form kalmar

[snow rain]

make armor memes to save up on MP both in losses and in manpower needed to push

[sudden grotto]

I dont have tanks researched lol

I got the nuclear reactor finally

[snow rain]

divs with 8 inf, 1 med/heavy tank with loads of armor and breakthrough, support AA, hospital, med flame tank, rangers (if you can, if not just support arty) and engineers

[spring hedge]

my divs were good bro and i had hella equipment

[snow rain]

time to start

[spring hedge]

but it was 1939

[sudden grotto]

Ig

I should have went for the mp in mw

[snow rain]

well, I can't know about this until I see it but in generally, what newish players lack are AA and/or air
if you don't have support AA in your divs and don't have total air cover, you'll get your ass blasted right back no matter how you play

[sudden grotto]

Even with 10% i cant get enough mp

[snow rain]

go for mass mob

mw sucks, mass mob at least makes inf op

[spring hedge]

honestly i thought aa wasnt that important

[sudden grotto]

Ok

[fallen vigil]

guys whats the best option?

[snow rain]

it's vital if you don't have total air supremacy (which is easy to do with By Blood Alone DLC)
But remember that you can push anything with anything if you have enough air supremacy and CAS (close air support)

[spring hedge]

what country is this even

[fallen vigil]

usa

[snow rain]

there's a reason why mass mob (inf only+air) is the absolute meta everywhere especially in competitive multiplayer since it was uncovered

[spring hedge]

well idk i never play them

[spring hedge]

hmm

[slim nexus]

Support aa is very important especially for countries like sovs

[snow rain]

to give you an idea, if I recall correctly the chinese meta in competitive games are basically composed of everyone doing a mass mob build safe for a few amphibious tanks on USA in order to Dday and a mechwall for bulgaria to counter the UK marines which impose the US amtank to counter the mechwall
like it's absolutely awful to look at but you can find canada mass mob with 150 35.2 combat width infantry divisions by 1942 that pull up in france once a port is secured
It's also the point where DDay is basically a death war of 30k axis planes fighting against 20k allied fighters and heavy fighters while the soviets themselves field 10k planes and 15 million men while fighting 5 millions hungarians, 5millions romanians and 5 millions germans and their air

[halcyon pasture]

Is this thing any good

[obtuse lodge]

why is there random people ruling nat spain instead of franco?

[icy crescent]

Are you playing in a multiplayer game and don't have the DLC?

[obtuse lodge]

no

singleplayer should be historical

[slim nexus]

Wth

Is thisd for the new update

[exotic bridge]

what?

[icy crescent]

Armored Car Jumpscare.

[snow rain]

1- don't use modern tanks, they're worse than mediums (medium tanks can use secondary turrets which gives way more stats while being cheaper)
2- always use medium flame tank (more bonuses), the only use for light ft is for partroopers as they can drop with them
3-other than that, the div is good, and even as is it will roll the ai

[slim nexus]

I wouldve said its good but its 12 ic

Thats horrible

[obtuse lodge]

also had this one and another one that i noticed

[icy crescent]

Many generic portraits.
Do you have some kind of mod installed?

Otherwise you gotta check your game on errors.

[exotic bridge]

that's cheaper than tanks💔 what are you on bruh

[slim nexus]

I need what YOURE on

[sudden grotto]

Lads i almost did 1M causalties to the allies Just by standing on the River 💔

[snow rain]

in singleplayer, this is the ultimate tank design (against unmodded AI) and the template looks somewhat like this (speed is up to you, it is capped at 6.4km/h by rangers which you can swap for hospital if you want speedy boys)

[heavy vigil]

Hii francis hru

[icy crescent]

If you require more cars than tanks to fill a battalion, the cars will appear more expensive.

[slim nexus]

Not just that

You can make a medium tank with double the soft attack for the same ic

[snow rain]

good enough ig, just passing by before going to bed
you?

[slim nexus]

Ohh war redux

War redux is ez

Just spam howitzers and inf and you melt through anything and anyone

[icy crescent]

[snow rain]

in TGW, don't focus on hard atk at all, you won't be encountering mechanized divisions anytime soon

[slim nexus]

TGW is based af

[exotic bridge]

not everyone plays only vanilla bruh

[slim nexus]

Most people at least play 1936

[snow rain]

honestly, armored car design is what prdx should do to make them usable/balanced

just like Hearts of Oak, TFB, Horstorical and so many more MP-focused mods do

[exotic bridge]

it's all soft attack

[heavy vigil]

Im okay :3

[exotic bridge]

I went for more soft than hard

[heavy vigil]

Just saw shady getting downvoted on reddit

Thats gore

Gore of my comfort character fr

[snow rain]

I mean specifically, you might have another gun to get that gives more soft
and you could use HMG as secondaries instead of cannon
Idk about the stats but compare the cost too

[snow rain]

on the hoi4 sub ?

[heavy vigil]

Yep

[snow rain]

bruh

[digital aurora]

I wonder if it would be possible for the devs to add the corps level of command into the game, for those who don’t know a corps is in between a army and divisons, it typically controls 3-4 divisions

[heavy vigil]

2 comments in a row with 3 downvotes

You hate to see it

[sudden grotto]

10 defense gen lol

[snow rain]

can I have the link so I can give my updoot ?

[heavy vigil]

xd

Let me find it

[snow rain]

I'm doing my part

[heavy vigil]

I was gonna like

Open reddit

Leave maybe 2 comments and leave

Wait im dumb

Let me copy link

[slim nexus]

True but imagine the backlash simply because of the rep paradox has given armored cars because of how simply underpowered they are

[heavy vigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/4sRuhBM2OE

[slim nexus]

Itd get memed just as or more than GOE

[slim nexus]

Same price and double the stats

With MIO it can become even cheaper and better

[exotic bridge]

do you know what "research"

is?

[slim nexus]

1941 tech isnt too unreasonable

[west sequoia]

rate my tank division

[slim nexus]

And for the previous tech your talking about -10 soft attack

[slim nexus]

Awful

[sudden grotto]

Hwo many strat bomb do i Need for a nuke?

[slim nexus]

10 iirc

It should say on the raid page

[west sequoia]

thanks

[sudden grotto]

70 💔

[slim nexus]

I think it depends on how many nukes youre using or something

Last time i used a nuke in hoi4 was as nuclear ghandi

[sudden grotto]

1 lol

[exotic bridge]

I literally can't have this bruh

[slim nexus]

Oh

Im just mistaken then

[sudden grotto]

I mean, i looked up at raids with strats and it says 70, i dunno sbout nukes

I rarely use them

[slim nexus]

Ignoring stats support companies and tank types its a half decent tank div

Oh

[snow rain]

I read everything, and it's part of why I prefer mods like TFB or Oak rather than vanilla
or at the very least, I like mods that try to make things somewhat balanced (like our 2025 french tournament mod that gives Henshel-like MIOs to every tank-producer or likely-tank producers and that heavily nerf brazilian air controller)

[heavy vigil]

Nerf on brazil not playing

[snow rain]

we have a player within the community who is a heavy brazil player. Like he knows the build by heart and all. At some point we played a custom mod for a server where the industry and air modifiers were nerfed and when he realized that he couldn't build 100 mils by mid 1940 and that his planes couldn't 1v4 italy's he just quit lmao

[slim nexus]

Brazils very fun

It becomes a major as soon as 1938 if you play it right

[snow rain]

it's fun becaus eit's op tbf

[sudden grotto]

the first green air in the whole game

[west sequoia]

what about now

[slim nexus]

Do you have dlc

[west sequoia]

yeah

[snow rain]

but it highlights the fact that shady was talking about in the subreddit thread, it is becoming an issue in MP
and a big issue

[snow rain]

what's that light tank design

[west sequoia]

its 1937 fam

[slim nexus]

I think its just one of those minors with too much room for expansion

[slim nexus]

Use inter war

[snow rain]

also if you're looking for cheap early game light tanks you're doing it wrong

[slim nexus]

I think hoi4 could try and make the monroe doctrine something worth caring about

[snow rain]

this is the kind of thing to aim for in budget builds for early war
use autocannon 1 until you get the n°2
don't use recon company because it costs a lot, use rangers if you can and medium interwar flame tank asap

3k ic, that's 6 infantry divs. Can't do much cheaper than that

[sudden grotto]

500 days to th nuke...so j gotta resist till...1945? 💔

1.4M dead to denmark Is Crazy 💔

[slim nexus]

If brazil ever gets nerfed ill be so sad

[west sequoia]

holy shit

should i just say yes to all of these

[slim nexus]

Yh

[heavy vigil]

Hes just like me...

[slim nexus]

Whats the best build for brazil

Tanks or mass mob

[sharp sierra]

hey sharty

[heavy vigil]

Matines because you can get 100 invasion cap by 42? I think

With the free tech focus

Just have to tech invasion 2

[slim nexus]

Jeez

Do you make mass mob infantry besides marines for when you land or is it just pure marines

[heavy vigil]

Marine

Mountaineer marine ideally

[slim nexus]

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

Probably with infinite special forces mod

In pure vanilla youd just do like strat bombers

[slim nexus]

Nah just spam 2 widhts and turn them into 50 widths

[heavy vigil]

Cuz OP

[fallow grove]

So tuf this fuhrer

[sharp sierra]

relief of command so op

[sudden grotto]

noice

[sharp sierra]

are you playing on a psp

[slim nexus]

Brazil should lowkey be buffed

[fallow grove]

What is psp

[sudden grotto]

Tahst what you get when you are poor 💔

[slim nexus]

Everyone that says otherwise is a liar

[sudden grotto]

Dawg 💔 thats sad

https://tenor.com/view/ps-vita-sony-playstation-handheld-ps-gif-9332540654420584894

[fallow grove]

I prefer ideological loyalty

[sharp sierra]

this is fun

[serene token]

Steam Deck is better

[slim nexus]

When is it not fun to naval invade italy

[sharp sierra]

when ur a big country ig

[slim nexus]

Noi its better

Cause you can land on every coastal tile on italy

[sudden grotto]

France Just finished their mp because they all died crossing the Kiel 💔 ww1 ahh tactic

[sharp sierra]

blood meridian pfp silence

[serene token]

......

Don't you dare make me do unspeakable things to you.

[exotic bridge]

the score board is crazy

[sudden grotto]

Ayo i got a 1 to 40 kd

Denmark grows stronger lop

Lol

[sharp sierra]

i hate these tank models

[slim nexus]

Nooo

[sharp sierra]

so dinky and stupid looking

[slim nexus]

Theyre so cute

[snow rain]

wait until you see hungary's and romania's

purely awful

[heavy vigil]

Dutch tank icons

[sudden grotto]

[sudden grotto]

Dont you insult turan tanks

They are gorgeous

[heavy vigil]

Theyre pretty aestetically pleasing

The bad thing about the dutch ones is theyre just like off center

[snow rain]

the base hungarians one are ok, but all variants are dogshit ngl

[heavy vigil]

And no actual unit model

[snow rain]

and I'm not speaking of spanish tanks

[sudden grotto]

Zrinyi?

[heavy vigil]

war thunder tank

[snow rain]

didnt even saw that bruh
some much for "axis" armor pack

[sudden grotto]

Dont they have a gfx for It?

[heavy vigil]

I like all the goofy looking models

[heavy vigil]

Its not in axis armor

This is MtG dutch tank icons?

When was the netherlands in the axis

[snow rain]

is axis armor only ita and ger ?

[heavy vigil]

Though theyre not in allied armor pack which is more odd

I dont think you can make the axis argument here

[heavy vigil]

And hungary and romania and slovakia/finland

[snow rain]

so they did do the awful models for hun and rom

i don't think I ever saw any slovak tank though, nor finland's

[heavy vigil]

I think so yeah

Slovakia doesnt get them

But they were in the axis

[slim nexus]

Congrats on being the 5,212,169th message in this channel

[heavy vigil]

Oh thank you its an honour

[slim nexus]

I just realized something

Casey youve contributed to 2.33% of ALL sent messages in this channel

So 1/50 messages are from casey

[sharp sierra]

whats my percentage

[heavy vigil]

Waow

[slim nexus]

0.1539%

[heavy vigil]

Thats a lot,,,, ill stop talking in gen chat,,,

Its prob a higher % in ask for help tbh

[slim nexus]

Yeah you sent 130k messages

[heavy vigil]

Well thats not just this channel

[sharp sierra]

that is bonkers

[heavy vigil]

And its a bit lower

[slim nexus]

Which is a lot in like

1 year

[slim nexus]

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

Im unemployed.....

[slim nexus]

I used to be friends witht his one guy on discord for like 5 years and we only have 100k messages combined over 3 years

And we literally dmed every day

[sharp sierra]

is disc golf the cure to the m,ale loneliness epidemic

[west sequoia]

kek

[slim nexus]

I didnt actually realize how bad tiktok is in terms of data

I tried seeing how long they keep your phone number and email after removing it from a tiktok and they dont tell you which is practically them saying thye keep it forever

There is probably something in their TOS letting them sell your data

[sudden grotto]

Sell It to Who

Dark web?

[main perch]

i got my very first paycheck and hoi4 isn't on sale

💔

[sharp sierra]

is it fat or no

[main perch]

well so you know how like they pay every 2 weeks

[heavy vigil]

Corporations.

[main perch]

they only covered my first 3 working days there (which happened to be on the second week on the date range)

so i got much less than I expected

i mean still enough to buy hoi4

*gift

but still

[opal nymph]

The tax man needs his share

[fallen vigil]

im tryna do georgia on my mind achievement

[main perch]

nah tax took off like $20, but I expected 600$ more

i understand why they paid me so but it's a bit hard to explain

[west sequoia]

Am i blind? Where are the two shovels

[sudden grotto]

Dayum great time to dismantle them fr fr

[heavy vigil]

1st row left 3 down

[west sequoia]

I started over and I am trying a new strategy. I disbanded my entire military and put it on the market

[exotic bridge]

do I need more battleships?

[stark coyote]

Yes

Why? Because I don't like number 28

[vapid bough]

I was gonna say why in god's name are ship acronyms like that but I apparently have the US Navy to blame

Still though why aren't heavy cruisers CH

[main perch]

this might be a bad idea

[fallen vigil]

this achievement was so fun

[main perch]

but when i introduce my friend to hoi4 I won't make him play the base game at the beginning

he'll play a certain althist scenario instead

[sharp sierra]

yea i think i did that as macarthur too

[chilly cipher]

As 🇺🇸, control 🇺🇸-GA, 🇬🇪, and 🇬🇧-🇬🇸

[mighty basalt]

mmmhmm best national spirit to exist. god i hate the country i am playing

[sharp sierra]

what the hell is that

[mighty basalt]

national spirit

[sharp sierra]

yeah you said that

[west sequoia]

what the heck mod is this

[mighty basalt]

mod i wish not to disclose so that when you find if and play it. you will have a rude awakening

XD

[west sequoia]

is it Fembavaria

[mighty basalt]

no its not that one

[west sequoia]

oh then i dont care
||joking||

[west sequoia]

How's this design? (1937)

[heavy vigil]

Why welded armor...

Also you can just add hmgs for more soft attack

[west sequoia]

what about this one

[heavy vigil]

Cheaper and better

3 man turret would help too

[west sequoia]

Wow I didn't realize how cheap motorized is

its only 35 trucks per batallion

[heavy vigil]

thats a lot

also you have camels which are just better

cav is even arguably better

[west sequoia]

trucks are only 2.5 production cost which is like 33% less than artillery

[heavy vigil]

but camels def are

[heavy vigil]

per piece yeah but it doesnt rlly give stats

so youre just spending more and not really getting anything

[west sequoia]

speeeeed

[halcyon pasture]

🎉

[west sequoia]

this invasion of britain has been very costly

[west sequoia]

LETS. FREAKING. GOOOOO

I balkanized great britain

Now to balkanize germany

[rare cipher]

Yo

[rare cipher]

How do i design my own tank

I tried to figure it out a while ago

[craggy trail]

Do you have No Step Back DLC? That's what you need for the tank designer

[rare cipher]

Yup

[craggy trail]

This for example would be the kind of tank you may be looking to design

Three man turret, the best medium gun you have available at your disposal, your best available radio, two heavy machineguns for more soft attack, and easy maintenance for reliability and lower production cost

[halcyon pasture]

is this division any good

[craggy trail]

Changing the classification of the tank into Self Propelled Anti Air, Tank Destroyer, or Self Propelled Artillery requires that you have the right gun for it

[craggy trail]

Organization is terrible low, basically this division will go in and out of battle really quick

High combat width will only allow 1 type of this division in battle

[opal nymph]

All you need is armor clearly. I want to see its mountain stats

[halcyon pasture]

-170% attack lmao

[opal nymph]

KEKW

[halcyon pasture]

I threw on all types of the super heavy tank support companies

[opal nymph]

Also no land cruiser

Fail RP

[halcyon pasture]

just seeing what the hell I can use the heavy tanks for

still researching land cruiser

[opal nymph]

Ah

[craggy trail]

Land cruiser will take up a support slot

[opal nymph]

Heavy flame to get replaced

[halcyon pasture]

gg heavy flame tank, the only thing keeping it viable

[craggy trail]

Used to be that super heavy tanks could be batallions

[heavy vigil]

bit cheap

Try this

[opal nymph]

"Back in my day" moment

Holy 42 org

But the terrain stats

[craggy trail]

Yes. It truly was a "Back in my day" moment

[halcyon pasture]

gonna park this in hawaii (plains)

[opal nymph]

Negative stats on plains lmao

[sharp sierra]

can you beat the royal navy with coastal defense ships

[kind vale]

Whats the most fun country to form the EU as

[zenith geode]

I hope theres a good KKK path for the phillippines

Ive never seen a mod with that before it would be really cool

[opal nymph]

Uh, can you explain to an American what that means

[kind vale]

Ain't no way

[craggy trail]

It's a party in the philippines

[opal nymph]

As i hope it isnt the kkk

[zenith geode]

Yeah there was this socialist group in the phillippines

[opal nymph]

Okay

[zenith geode]

Called the KKK

[opal nymph]

That makes more sense

[zenith geode]

They were revolutionaries against spain then they rebeled against the US in 1899

[opal nymph]

No men wearing bed sheets

Got it

[kind vale]

No bed sheets?

[zenith geode]

Lol no

[kind vale]

So i can't be a ghost

[zenith geode]

They were the opposite anti racist

[kind vale]

Keep kolored klan

[zenith geode]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan

[kind vale]

All romes lead to road

[west sequoia]

L germany

[zenith geode]

Bruh why didnt the allies just do this in real life, all they had to do was drop soldiers in berlin from plains and force them to surrender before they capitulated poland

[west sequoia]

why didnt france do this in real life fr fr

it's December 1939 btw

[serene inlet]

you justified?

[serene inlet]

is that amphibious tanks?

what the actual hell is that divisions

[west sequoia]

No, I remembered Waterloo. And the thought of it made my nation so mad that we materialized a navy out of nothing and sailed across the English Channel.

[serene inlet]

what did you invade with

[west sequoia]

72 divisions of this

[serene inlet]

72 is a shit ton

[west sequoia]

I know

[serene inlet]

i usually invade them with 20 marines and 10 tanks

in 40

[west sequoia]

1938 btw

[serene inlet]

u can still make alot of marines in 39

[west sequoia]

I mean it doesnt matter if they just dont garrison their ports

[serene inlet]

do u have the dlcs?

[west sequoia]

thats what happened is i landed units in portsmouth, dover, and around dover

and then as soon as i got in I sent every single division I had onto the island

And they fell pretty quickly afterwards

[west sequoia]

yeah

im still on early mob btw LMAO

[serene inlet]

i mean yeah in 39 they have much less unitz

[heavy vigil]

sim

[serene inlet]

sim?

in what year do u amke those

[west sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[sharp sierra]

this game is being ass right now

im doing the move government to batavia path

well dumb ass allies landed in benelux

now my capital is there and its totally land locked

i cant make any more shit or spply anything now

and i cant even move my hub becuase of the cooldown

already tried moving it back to sarabia once

[heavy vigil]

like yes

[sharp sierra]

what the hell do i need 100 trains for i only have 58 divisions

[quasi wharf]

I think i've weathered my second winter war. Whats the chance of sweden joining the axis when i declare on him. ?
Thats pretty much my only chance to get the lone wolf achievement right?

[misty fossil]

remove 1 inf battalion

16cw inf stacks are less prone to be reinforce memed

[west sequoia]

how do you get reinforce memed on the attack...?

[misty fossil]

you use that to attack?

[sharp sierra]

💀

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1410263960216666225/attachment.gif

if you even want to use infantry to attack just make 36cws

but id just use tanks anyway

oh wait i just noticed ur using those for naval invasions

thats even worse

[west sequoia]

did you read the message you replied to or

[misty fossil]

no

[sharp sierra]

about there being 72 of them

?

[misty fossil]

i would really just make 36w marines with 8 marine battalions and 10 mountaineers. hospital, support arty, radio, logistics and pioneers

[west sequoia]

ok

[misty fossil]

or maybe this if you wanna be luxurious as france

[west sequoia]

ok

[misty fossil]

or maybe try to fit in 1 line AT

idk why its motorised

[west sequoia]

I didn't ask but thanks ig

[misty fossil]

thats rude

[sharp sierra]

meanie butt

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308354496493260831/1410270337806897192/caption-13.gif

[sharp sierra]

now u deserve to be made fun of

[west sequoia]

im cooked 😭 bro's name is "rolling W"

[sharp sierra]

hate the way the ai prioritizes puppets and stuff

the rest of germany is 2 soldiers per tile

1 per tile even

[quasi wharf]

BANZAAAAAAAI

[rare cipher]

I just destroyed france

My first time

[dire hornet]

I never bothered trying space marines but i can see why they're so overpowered and baned in mp now

[exotic bridge]

🦅🦅🦅

[halcyon pasture]

are modern tanks better for space marines?

[trim pike]

Yes but dont do space marines

[heavy vigil]

no

advanced heavy best

[halcyon pasture]

any good use for modern tanks?

just speed?

[opal nymph]

Modern Tanks are decent overall, just expensive

[heavy vigil]

well

you get lower attack stats than mediums or heavies

worse armor than advanced heavy

your terrain buffs over mediums are like

5% amphib 5% river

theyre more expensive

but

as a td i think they can field the super heavy gun