hoi4-general

[analog ivy]

most likely gonna be a china dlc since there is no china dlc rn

but the faction rework and thermodynamics should be free

[brave steeple]

dlcs personally are such bad game practices

[kind vale]

Nah

[pallid slate]

hello guys

[analog ivy]

yea

[kind vale]

Nah

[sharp sierra]

@serene inlet

[pallid slate]

anyone need a mp duo

[kind vale]

The ark dlcs are amazing,

[brave steeple]

never said dlcs are ALL bad

[kind vale]

Would spend 150$ again

[brave steeple]

i said generally

[analog ivy]

i mean its not a bad practice but locking 90% of the mechanics behind dlc's is kind of greedy

[brave steeple]

like elden ring does dlcs great

for elden ring its a whole new game practically

[serene inlet]

are they reinforcing in dover?

[brave steeple]

for something like hoi4

[sharp sierra]

yea im just killing them

i added another heavy tank in ur marines cuz u had so many heavy tanks

[brave steeple]

its 'pay £15 so you can have fun playing china'

(cus china's focus tree is so bad)

[analog ivy]

i would never have as many hours as i did rn without the dlcs lol

[kind vale]

Same

When my dlc subscription ran out of refused to play

[serene inlet]

true

[analog ivy]

sucks how people are buying the base game for like $40 before realising that the rest of the game is locked behind another $80 of dlcs lol

[dire hornet]

ahhh true imperialism

[brave steeple]

which is the problem

[kind vale]

I got the game for 5$

[brave steeple]

ye

[analog ivy]

really??

[brave steeple]

they get u with the cheap sales

[kind vale]

I love steam sales

[brave steeple]

it goes on insane sales

[analog ivy]

well im really dumb

for buying the game when its not on sale

[brave steeple]

but they are fine with selling it cheap cus remember HOI4 IS A 9 YEAR OLD GAME

[kind vale]

I did that with ark and the dlcs😭

I waited for a sale to get asa

[cerulean orchid]

dam

[analog ivy]

still doesnt feel like a 9 year old game lol

[brave steeple]

id prefer buying a new game every 4 years than buying a game and buying 50 dlcs

[analog ivy]

honestly i think hoi4 is way ahead of its time

[kind vale]

Call of duty be like

[brave steeple]

hoi4 graphics are mid

[kind vale]

It's an amazing game

[brave steeple]

hoi4 is a good game

but it isnt 'ahead of its time'

you could say bf1 is a game ahead of its time

[kind vale]

Improve the graphics

[brave steeple]

(i still play it)

bf1 isnt ahead of its time its just a good game

[kind vale]

Bro I still play mw2

[brave steeple]

if you play a old game its cus its good

also

mods carry hoi4 tbh

[kind vale]

Nah mw2 sucks ass I just play dmz

[kind vale]

I haven't used any mods lately

[brave steeple]

i am using one rn

[kind vale]

Ww1?

[brave steeple]

are you sure

vic got shot at

and is now a half robot

[golden sail]

Man what the hell

[kind vale]

Lol

[fair horizon]

we are the borg

[brave steeple]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2792132018&searchtext=pax

fire mod tbh

[kind vale]

Ima try it

[brave steeple]

it feels a slight like tno

but tno has horrid ui

and also isnt rly tno

also the game IS up to date

it might tell you its for a old version

its a bug or something

its updated

[golden sail]

Ima just stick to hoi2

[brave steeple]

its basicly 'what if the 13 colonies never revolted and also ww1 was a uk and germany victory and also its the 1970s with biochemical warfare but also ww1 warfare'

there are automated turrets

1 last thing

you start in 1933

[kind vale]

Damn

[brave steeple]

and ww2 starts in 1937

[kind vale]

So its a long mod

[brave steeple]

no

[golden sail]

These moders just be making anything

[brave steeple]

its like 2 years old

[kind vale]

I said long as in it has alot of content

[brave steeple]

Update: 4 May, 2022 @ 3:41pm

[brave steeple]

oh sorta yes and no

lots of nations dont have focuses

green means thye got FULL content

red means they are gonna get content

and others mean they are gonna get content

[sharp sierra]

@serene inlet british are toast

[brave steeple]

also who said that the uk garrys lots

the uk does NOT garry much

[fresh mortar]

just had a japan game where i needed to take EVERY province of china

genuinely so annoying

[brave steeple]

also biochemical warfare

[serene inlet]

thats nice

are u able to push alot tho

[stark coyote]

Do Collab Government

[serene inlet]

dangg

[slim nexus]

how do you play japan

because im not good with navy

[sharp sierra]

we never got air either

[serene inlet]

so you just wait let them attack you and encircle?

[sharp sierra]

hd to withstand the cas

uhhuh

i got a nice encirclement starting off at dover

since they had an invasion planned

then i left dover open for them to send units in

[sharp sierra]

didnt kill that many but everything helps

[slim nexus]

from what i've found as long as you've got cas over the uk and tanks on the main land it isnt hard to just drive through england and wales and encircle huge numbers of british divisions

[upper veldt]

Spot something odd here

[slim nexus]

without either of those though i have no idea

[sharp sierra]

this isnt my save

and there was no winning the air war this time

[slim nexus]

regardless thats my opinion on sealion

balls hard without cas from my experience

[sharp sierra]

if u use cas ur trash like feedbackgaming

[slim nexus]

the uk will just poop out 5 million divisions and lay into you

[sharp sierra]

jk

[serene inlet]

lmao exactly

thats every single time

[slim nexus]

usually they just completely fold to a good tank design though

[abstract canopy]

how does one beat this

[serene inlet]

i tried with marines and i couldnt push very exactly

ig i have to just let them attack over and over again

[sharp sierra]

idiot germans and italians left normal uk alive

[brave steeple]

hoi4 is such a great game you can extol about how good it is for at least 1 minute

[opal nymph]

Welp

Russia is not having a good time

Over 1 million men were in that pocket

[sharp sierra]

and all were safely taken prisoner

[slim nexus]

who should i play as

i've done germany and the ussr

who else

[sharp sierra]

italy

[slim nexus]

how hard are they

[sharp sierra]

well do you want to follow a historical playthrough or not

cuz it can be really easy

[slim nexus]

i dont want to do any cheese

[sharp sierra]

well its not hard to do what you want

kicking the british out isnt hard or anything

[slim nexus]

im not really up to date on the meta for countries that aren't super powerful like germany

like what do i use for pushing

[sharp sierra]

marines mountaineers

naval invade

i never push over the egyptian desert

[slim nexus]

why can't you use tanks

[sharp sierra]

i dont really build tanks that much

do that if you want

sure you can fight over the desrt with them

the goals are just kill all british submarines

kick them out of the meditterranean

[slim nexus]

whats the point of that can't you just sealion

[sharp sierra]

i didnt know if you wanted to larp or not

just send ur navy out before the war and be boring then ig

[serene inlet]

@sharp sierra so you split the navy, trained them, added a tank to my template, invaded and let them push you and waste strength?

oops wrong message i answered

[sharp sierra]

i invaded with the same template and then i realized i could add another tank to it

[west sluice]

planning on doing the max light CL and torp DD navy start, how many torp DDs would you reccomend per cruiser?

[sharp sierra]

i changed all of your miscellaneous units to the same infantry template

[sharp sierra]

is this a mp thing

[west sluice]

it's a wierd situation. doing an MP game as the czech entente+greece against the AI on a higher difficulty so AI doesnt get steamrolled

[serene inlet]

why couldn't i just push directly tho?

like the other time

[sharp sierra]

idk circumstances change

[sharp sierra]

so ur fighting ai idk why not just build cruisers exclusively

ill never build a destroyer

[west sluice]

just light attack CLs, or different types

[sharp sierra]

probably just the light attack ones

high armor

[west sluice]

i just heard

whoops

i just heard that was the best MP start so thats what i assumed

[west sluice]

are the CLs able to kill capital ships well enough? heard that was the point of the torp DD

[sharp sierra]

whats a capital ship gonna do without their screens

ai ships have no stats

isthe better ai ur fighting

how better is iut

are the designs better or do they just get cheater stats

[west sluice]

they just get godly stats, still scrambled egg brain

[abstract canopy]

I cant take it anymore, why is the ai naval invading me EVERY DAY

[west sequoia]

here's how my rt56 game is going

[abstract canopy]

this is madness

[opal nymph]

This one was made by battleplanning lol

[heavy vigil]

Hi jon hru

[leaden wraith]

too anxious for real mp so co-oping with the sheep mod ai 🥀

human_ai console command is almost the same as observe or spectator, you just still have control over the country

and share it with the ai

effectively you're playing mp co-op with the ai

[golden sail]

Na

You gotta clap them

[leaden wraith]

and yes there's a lot of arguing over microing the troops

same as any actual mp game

[golden sail]

Just mute

[leaden wraith]

meh still will feel like someone will find a way to put any blame on me

[abstract canopy]

when will this war end

[west sequoia]

is it like 1955 or something

[abstract canopy]

close

[west sequoia]

lmao

[golden sail]

Doesn’t matter

[leaden wraith]

sheep mod soviets having a bigger k/d than the allies 😭

[golden sail]

That’s how you learn

[digital aurora]

Bro is still on this campaign, Jesus I never get this far

[abstract canopy]

the ai doesnt learn either

it just

sends more naval invasions

I cant take this anymore

they send young men into their death just to take hamburg for like 2 days

[sharp sierra]

build a navy

[digital aurora]

Ai on its way to make like 50 different templates on the same day with army XP I got from its ass

[digital aurora]

A navy isn’t really a quick thing you can build

[sharp sierra]

it is actually

[abstract canopy]

I dont think it matters anymore

[digital aurora]

Jesus Christ

[leaden wraith]

i dont wanna learn, i wanna play casual; bros look at me with my 4.7k hours thinking im an esports sweat when in reality ill fumble under 0 pressure

[sharp sierra]

just build a deathstack of cruisers its 1948 tf are you doing

get bildin

[abstract canopy]

suffering

[sharp sierra]

the best time to plant the tree was 20 years ago the second best time is now

[abstract canopy]

my navy is so beautiful

[digital aurora]

Oh

[sharp sierra]

dont even build capitals

or i wouldnt anyways

[abstract canopy]

at least I have tanks 🥲

[digital aurora]

Capitals might not be “meta” but I still like to make them

[abstract canopy]

lord have mercy

[digital aurora]

Nothing like a battle cruiser group (1 battle cruiser with 3 regular cruisers)

[digital aurora]

How are you making IFV’s? 😭😭

[abstract canopy]

its a mod

[digital aurora]

Oh makes sense

[abstract canopy]

extended projects

[golden sail]

So you’re suggesting I beat you

[abstract canopy]

they have good stats

[digital aurora]

Fair fair

I assume they are like an upgraded mech infantry unit? Or how do you use them in divisions

[abstract canopy]

they are a better mech but with lower org

[digital aurora]

Ah gotcha

[abstract canopy]

basically light tanks

no clue tho I never make light tanks

🙏

[digital aurora]

Also why are you not producing any at all? Surely resources can’t be that low on them

[abstract canopy]

you tell me

[slim nexus]

riddle me this one, why does the finland continuation war happen if I as the soviets never did the focus's related to them, I never fought the fins so how can they continue a war?!

I may or may not have lost most the north of the country due to not looking there as I assumed they wouldnt declare war for no reason

[opal nymph]

Welp

[meager valley]

Perhaps it had alluded to former conflicts all along

[abstract canopy]

another naval invasion

I cant take this anymore

[opal nymph]

Zoinks

Finally

[west sequoia]

Do you guys notice anything odd about this europe?

rt56

[digital aurora]

That’s why I always puppet Finland, one less front

[digital aurora]

Who is that lil orange country? I can’t read the text

Also in road to 56 it took Germany till 1940 to take Poland

[west sequoia]

Rexist Belgium

do you see the small blue country next to belgium

[digital aurora]

No?

[west sequoia]

😭

one nation stands alone in Europe

nepal is here too for some reason

[abstract canopy]

lord

[digital aurora]

Oh the M in German was converting it

[digital aurora]

How I imagine my 2 divisons after they get encircled

[abstract canopy]

[west sequoia]

why havent you capitulated england yet?

[digital aurora]

Yeah just don’t bother with that part of Europe, hold the line

[digital aurora]

They are Germany

[west sequoia]

my question remains unanswered

[abstract canopy]

they wont die

[west sequoia]

theyre probably surviving off of exiled manpower lol

[cerulean orchid]

usa is in the war they probably cant get naval supremacy

[cerulean orchid]

o nvm

[abstract canopy]

you are on point

china is in this war too

[digital aurora]

Oh I thought you were asking why they haven’t capitulated to the UK my bad

[cerulean orchid]

i just played a communist usa game and i was literally at war with every major

because freaking soviet latvia declared war on me for some reason

and i was at war with germany and japan

and i took out the uk

[digital aurora]

What do you mean Soviet Latvia declared war on you?

[cerulean orchid]

i mean what i said

soviet latvia got a war goal against demnark which was my puppet and they declared war

[upper merlin]

Anyone watching the new Squidward chat tonight?

They have a… interesting guest star.

[abstract canopy]

so funny

[cerulean orchid]

no idea how a puppet declared war but ok

[digital aurora]

Also isn’t there a restriction on declaring war on the same ideology? Or am I remembering that from a mod

[cerulean orchid]

thats only for democratic countries

[digital aurora]

Ah

So somehow a puppet declared war on another puppet, dragging two super powers into war

[abstract canopy]

I believe in you DR

[west sequoia]

are you using subs

[abstract canopy]

no, they all drowned

[west sequoia]

i mean submarines not

uh

nvm

[digital aurora]

You could push Norway to get another person out of the war

[golden sail]

Nah

Ik what to do

Just battle plan

[digital aurora]

~ ALE

[heavy vigil]

i hate that italy is pushing ethiopia

my grind :(

[abstract canopy]

I tried that but I got bottlenecked so now im declaring on sweden so that I can take norway from the side

this will not backfire

[golden sail]

So your thing is you actually think you’re a dog

Or you want to be one

Genuine question

Don’t take offence yet

[abstract canopy]

they are a therian so id assume so

[golden sail]

You don’t say

[digital aurora]

I was gonna say marine invade and paratroopers but your airforce is gone, and your navy is uhhhhh

[west sequoia]

papa stalin please

please papa stalin save me

[digital aurora]

Next HOI4 I might try to build a large Soviet fleet

I’m talking destroyers cruisers, battle cruisers, battleships. Super heavy battleships, carriers

[golden sail]

Super heavy battle ships

Balright

Are we in Lala land

[digital aurora]

Okay maybe not super heavy battleships

[golden sail]

Jk

You can prov get it in 1940

As the ussr least

At least

[digital aurora]

That might be a post Barbarossa plan

[abstract canopy]

I love the 10fps slideshow

[digital aurora]

I will atleast make a couple Sovetsky Soyuz and Kronshtadt-class

[edgy elm]

am i cooked?

[heavy vigil]

sure close enough :3

damn grinding is awesome

[west sequoia]

WHAT???

[abstract canopy]

goodbye mainland UK

[heavy vigil]

?

why the what

[west sequoia]

oh sorry i misunderstood what you said

:3

[heavy vigil]

nuh uh not that

[digital aurora]

Operation sea lion in 1949

[abstract canopy]

more like reverse sea lion

they are taking it back from me

😪

[arctic abyss]

me fr but 1m instead of 4k hrs

[blissful grail]

so uhhh what the hell is happening here in hungry...

[wraith mauve]

Anyone play fire rises regularly

[hoary mortar]

herd 4

[sudden falcon]

should i wp japan as china or instead try to research air and paratroop

i got an idea

[drowsy bronze]

i got franco british union

[opal nymph]

Nifty

Idk how common it is in r56 compared to vanilla

[dusky burrow]

Defeat lmao

[opal nymph]

Are you greece

Or Japan

Or Italy

[fervent stone]

Guys

💀

[dusky burrow]

Greece

[lone sail]

whats the best doctrine and division template for iran

[echo barn]

25/0

[lone sail]

wdym

[echo barn]

25 inf no art

do not take this as advice it's terrible

[sudden falcon]

just naval invaded japan as china

[sudden falcon]

bro i now have a naval facility 😭

i have 9 total ships

bro

japanese are 95% TO CAPITULATION and they are naval invading east china

[clear dagger]

they cannot comprehend that they are losing the homeland

[sudden falcon]

its 1941

should i puppet or annex korea

[sharp sierra]

swiss so much more fun with generic focus tree

[sudden falcon]

🔥

got the japanese navy and a japanese puppet state

[atomic grove]

i have somehow kept poland alive as bulgaria with just balkan puppet divs (i have basically no army and manpower)

cant wait to finally complete the focus to get extensive conscription

[sudden falcon]

why are the soviets actually winning barb

they just got the wp with finland

[atomic grove]

because they should

if they dont then ur germany ai is locked in

[dusky burrow]

Since Italy capitulated so hard (fighting Italy was almost entirely done by Greece, aka me) this happened

[sudden falcon]

usually germany steamrolls soviets

[atomic grove]

nah

as soon as allies land in italy or normandy

germany's push into soviets collapse

kinda rare to see germany win against soviets without player help though

[sudden falcon]

they havent yet

soviets arent losing that much land

the only spots where they've been pushed ot the dniper line is in latvia and ALMOST kiev

[serene inlet]

trying to take all of europe as germany before 40 is a dumb move tbh

[atomic grove]

what year is it

[serene inlet]

i went super fas and had france in 1937 but declaring on italy was simply a mistaking aswell as the balkans

[atomic grove]

it isnt

[serene inlet]

it is

[atomic grove]

conquering literally all of europe

[serene inlet]

you cannot garrison everything

[atomic grove]

as germany

is easy

just do italy last

[serene inlet]

before 40

[atomic grove]

just garrison ports

[sudden falcon]

41

[serene inlet]

wut

[atomic grove]

what month

[atomic grove]

oh i see

[sudden falcon]

early october

[atomic grove]

why specifically 1940 though

[serene inlet]

like i'm so low on guns

[atomic grove]

when did germany declare

[atomic grove]

produce them

[sudden falcon]

theres only 1 battle going on in the eastern front

[serene inlet]

and declaring on italy was a mistake tbh whitout naval invading roma

[sudden falcon]

oh idk

[atomic grove]

put 25 factories

[serene inlet]

200 a day and theyre going down bro 😭

[sudden falcon]

june 12 1941

[atomic grove]

oh

[serene inlet]

ts what i mean

that was so bad of a mistake

[atomic grove]

thats fine

[sudden falcon]

they're about 2.5 czechoslovakis away from moscow

[atomic grove]

thats fine

they wont start an uprising

dont worry about resistance

[sudden falcon]

release as a puppet

[serene inlet]

it isnt

[atomic grove]

just keep it on local police force

[atomic grove]

then dont put your guns into garrisons for now

make anything else higher priority

[serene inlet]

i hate this situation aswell i cant naval them

[gusty oracle]

hello french

[atomic grove]

is italy in the allies?

[gusty oracle]

you have 0 supply

[serene inlet]

like the south kingdom thing should always take place in palermo

[atomic grove]

also

[serene inlet]

no shit but the terrain is terrible

[gusty oracle]

build a port or paradrop

[atomic grove]

why are u using 3 armies

in 1 tile

[serene inlet]

none

[atomic grove]

use mountaineers

[serene inlet]

put 5 speed after battleplanning

[atomic grove]

mountaineeer space marines

[serene inlet]

but tbh wont change much if i remove

[gusty oracle]

well dont do that

[gusty oracle]

it will

[serene inlet]

well i wanted to make marines but too late

[atomic grove]

i believe u should have medium tanks

[atomic grove]

then dont train them to regular

because u dont have the time to do so

just keep them on green once deployed

[sudden falcon]

it might be because i took out japan, they dont have to garrison / put units in siberia

[serene inlet]

well i wanted italy for their naval

for britain

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/sabaton-history-wawa-cat-winged-hussars-gif-1548064404993932937

[true vector]

Will AI Germany sealion by itself or will I have to intervene

I’m playing Italy

Also how do I take Africa

I always fail

[serene inlet]

waiiiit

if i puppet italy

its gonna puppet them differently??

like each and every single one of them or what

its gonna be so border gore

dear god

[slim nexus]

This is just italy before the unification

Most likely

Nvm

Regno del sud should be in sicily 😭

[true vector]

Is it possible for Germany to win damn anything without intervention

They always get pushed back in the east and they never sealion

What if I declare on Spain

How hard is Spain

[clear dagger]

LOL this is so cursed i hate it so much

the british didnt even guarantee me

[slim nexus]

Motorized recon is fantastic

Never use it before

Is gonna be my base units

Equipment.

[clear dagger]

how come?

[sudden falcon]

nvm they just declared on iran RIP stalin

[slim nexus]

Who are you?

Croatia?

[clear dagger]

no poland

uniting the balkens to bully germany

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-assemble-gather-mcu-gif-25373482

[stark coyote]

Wdym?

[pearl jackal]

hi

im playing japan, how does the border conflict with ussr work

[stark coyote]

Right so, u put 6 divisions in the border and start the decision

Then you will have to wait for the preparations (it takes 30 seconds)

After that, click the decision again and a combat will start in ther border with the URSS

If u win you get a doctrine discount, like - 40% cost or just a bit of military xp if u lose

Those divs should be attacking one

ones

[serene inlet]

axis in 39 tbh i wanna naval uk but ik itll fail

[pearl jackal]

ohhh cool

[stark coyote]

Yeah

It's kinda cool

But almost always I lose as japan

Maybe Im dumb

Lmao

[serene inlet]

how do i change the gun priority on garrison

[atomic grove]

how r u sure its going to fail

[serene inlet]

no marines and deficit on guns

[serene inlet]

invading with infantry is kinda idk

[clear dagger]

little field trip

[pearl jackal]

welp i just lost so like :/

[stark coyote]

It's usual 😭

[pearl jackal]

damn ok

[serene inlet]

the resistance is so bad 😭 😭 😭

eating my guns

[limber jackal]

🫡 the guy who got me 100% collaboration in the ussr

ive actually never seen an agent actually take a suicide pill

thats why im surprised

[stark coyote]

[clear dagger]

the NKVD switched his tic tac with his cyanide

[limber jackal]

lmfao

[dusky burrow]

RIP Japan

Okay this is even worse

[sour nymph]

when yall think the next hoi4 sale will be

[limber jackal]

thats urm the same picture sir

[limber jackal]

no idea 🤷‍♂️

theyre quite often tho

[sour nymph]

yeah lol i noticed that

im just broke rn

[limber jackal]

id never get hoi4 on full price

cause the full price is lowkey absurx

absurd*

50 euros??

[sour nymph]

literally

its so devious bruh

[limber jackal]

and the other thing is

hoi4 goes on sale often

and by often i mean OFTEN

like

whats the point in buying it on full price 😭

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/naval-combat-over-simplified-the-first-punic-war-rome-carthage-gif-27031413

[sour nymph]

xdd fr

ive watched so many hoi4 vids it looks fun but ik ill struggle

[limber jackal]

oversimplified vid real

i love the fact that the roman strategy in the punic wars was "since we have a skill issue in fighting on water, how about we a) destroy their ships in half with our front or b) plunge some giant ahhh scythe into their ships thats on our ship and walk on it and raid their ships"

[clear dagger]

my plan wouldve been fire archers

[limber jackal]

how hard is sheeps mod?

[dusky burrow]

Wrong image, this was it

[slim nexus]

Greece?!

Also Fascist one

[warped flint]

I just deceided to annex Tyumen with console, its so annoying have sverdlovsk attack me right when im about to cap tyumen.

[spring hedge]

i have played france 3 consecutive times as napoleonic path and every single time i naval invaded britain i got cooked what am i even doing bro

when i look on youtube i see people saying "once you land just set an attack order and wait" bruh my troops are fighting through hell itself

and once i make it a length of 5 tiles up

the british gain the blessings of jacob to evicerate my frontlines

also i learned that france sucks ass

[clear dagger]

i love how germany just dies after they faced any kind of resistance

[digital aurora]

the US has 50 divs on a singular state in south america, its a jungle tile, there is no supply there, any they are holding

[clear dagger]

fortunate son starts playing

[clear dagger]

6 years too early

[spring hedge]

very brave

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-ball-dancing-cow-polish-gif-23442219

lol italy didnt even join the axis

[vestal grove]

Poland player that killed Germany, +1000 złoty

What template did you use?

[neat kayak]

AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED 🔥🔥

[warped hill]

what’s the difference between a capital ship and screens

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

[slim nexus]

Use motorized division

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[slim nexus]

Your units is extremely faster

[clear dagger]

cav only

also all motorized is expensive and will cost a ton of oil for me

[slim nexus]

As a support division not so much

[slim nexus]

Especially if you upgraded the civilian part upgrade for it

[clear dagger]

wdym support division

[slim nexus]

Motorized recon company

[clear dagger]

thats not how speed works

your divisions speed is your slowest unit there

not the fastest

[slim nexus]

It give you a base +15%

Is not important what division you have

[slim nexus]

It give +15% on base is not considered in the count

[clear dagger]

it only gives some speed buffs on certain terrain

rangers do the same thing

[slim nexus]

Most of them which are in USRR

[slim nexus]

If those are rangers then stick with them

[clear dagger]

theres no point in having motorized recon when your divisions is not motorized

[slim nexus]

Since I am Dlcless

[slim nexus]

Actually it much faster

Just try with one of your division

You will be surprised

[clear dagger]

compare it with cav recon

[warped hill]

what build

i use 3x heavy mg and armour plates and self seal

[slim nexus]

A 9 inf with motorized recon is much faster than
9 inf with cav recon

[clear dagger]

the only thing its faster in is plains and desert

everything else is the same

[slim nexus]

And hills too right?

[clear dagger]

no

[slim nexus]

Mh

[clear dagger]

both add 10%

[slim nexus]

Well for fighting USSR still usefull

[clear dagger]

what other support do you put on your divisions?

[fallow forge]

similar

focke wulf just cooks

[warped hill]

how do u fit on the extra fuel tank

is it an mio

[fallow forge]

yea but engine 3

[toxic lotus]

It does not

[slim nexus]

Depends on the cases and needs usually I go with support anti air.

Then I am a fan of the radio support company for the initiative, but it seems like a very unpopular opinion here

[spring hedge]

the focuses suck

[toxic lotus]

Commie path is peak

[clear dagger]

you put on support artillery right

[spring hedge]

they all take 70 days

[spring hedge]

its ok

[slim nexus]

That's quite the basic for everything.

[clear dagger]

alr good

[warped hill]

whenever i use fockewulf and engine 3 i cant fit it on

what other buffs do u have

[slim nexus]

Well I still have 1.3k hours

[toxic lotus]

I mean sure focuses are pretty bad

Needs a rework

[marsh ravine]

No they dont?

They have some of the best industry buffs in the game

[fallow forge]

none really, i can do it without any upgrades

[marsh ravine]

Sure it isnt larp af

[slim nexus]

Ile de France is extremely specific for being a focus

[marsh ravine]

But like its a very strong focus tree

[fallow forge]

but this is peak

[marsh ravine]

Is get rus of range and add 1 more armour plate

And rush range upgrades on ur range designer

[fallow forge]

this wasnt the topic

[warped hill]

huh

[fallow forge]

the topic is

why it works for me

and not for him

[marsh ravine]

Okay

[fallow forge]

i dont have mio upgrades and i can use it

[warped hill]

do u have any focuses

[marsh ravine]

I mean with 1 range is still good just more air def is better

[warped hill]

like goering

[marsh ravine]

Wait what air doctrine did u go

[spring hedge]

with france you need to do at least 5 70 day focuses to get your 4th research slot (should start with) in a tree that matters little compared to others (also suck)

[marsh ravine]

And did u train ur planes

[fallow forge]

oh no

[warped hill]

this is 1940 i haven’t got any yet

[marsh ravine]

And u get 10% cap and 3x 150% for industry

And output

[marsh ravine]

Uh oh

[toxic lotus]

Yep thats op

[warped hill]

well i haven’t gone to war yet

tbf i haven’t been exercising

[marsh ravine]

You want doctrines before you go to war

[toxic lotus]

like very op

[spring hedge]

yes bro extra cap for my 20 military factories

[warped hill]

yea i forgot

[spring hedge]

the industry is fire though

[toxic lotus]

U can get 39 industry mid 37

[fallow forge]

can even do it without mio or doctrine

[marsh ravine]

Build mils day1? And also extra cap is good for however many mils u have

[warped hill]

you must have a focus or something

[marsh ravine]

Don't act like its a fake stat

[warped hill]

or spirit

[marsh ravine]

Wait how many planes do u have and how many ro they have

[fallow forge]

this is 1936 with roic (research on icon click)

to demonstrate

[marsh ravine]

Without mio or doctrine if it still works its gonna be cos or numbers and the efficiency over the airzone

What airzones r u guys fighting over

[fallow forge]

i fight over the alps

2k hours worth every one

<2

[marsh ravine]

Thats a good airzone for axis

But if the other guy

[fallow forge]

im fighting italy

[marsh ravine]

Well ofc u r winning with 8k planes😭

[spring hedge]

honestly the only terrible part about france is that the colonial tree where u get more research slots takes forever if u dont wanna miss out on like 22 extra civs

[spring hedge]

;-;

[fallow forge]

<3

[marsh ravine]

I feel like the amount of air flyint

Is a very big issue

For the other person

[spring hedge]

holy moly

[slim nexus]

You can make them while at war.

[warped hill]

i don’t have any flying

[spring hedge]

what

[warped hill]

i was just wondering what build he was using i’m not having problems with air

[fallow forge]

lets see how many planes i can throw there

[marsh ravine]

I thought it wasn't working for you?

[fallow forge]

i meant desigining the plane

he cant add the upgrades i have

[marsh ravine]

Oh

[marsh ravine]

Thats literally just producing jt

[fallow forge]

yes

[marsh ravine]

Yeh so just be patient

Yeh 300 mils on air

Ofc u r gonna have a maxed out moo

[fallow forge]

<3

[slim nexus]

Corrected

[slim nexus]

Are you USSR ?

[lapis snow]

Clearly germany

[fallow forge]

are you seriosu

im germany

[spring hedge]

true

[fallow forge]

lol dw

am not mad or stuff

js a bit fooling

[slim nexus]

The design looked USA planes

[fallow forge]

time to overun the soviets

[slim nexus]

So I thought you were buying them

[fallow forge]

made in germany

[slim nexus]

With the military factories

[fallow forge]

oh thats a mod, 50 construction slots and cheaper contstruction

but why bomb america

[pearl flume]

Have never seen this in a historical gam,e

[atomic grove]

i said mountaineer space marines

[atomic grove]

it happens when france chooses to intervene when germany demands territory

it can happen either when germany demands sudeten or slovenia

but its very rare

[pearl flume]

I demanded Slovenia

Usually they always accept

[atomic grove]

oh well

atleast u get to eat france without beating the uk

[marsh ravine]

Iirc u have to demand before u do czechs

[atomic grove]

now all u need to do is just kill belgium and luxembourg

[warped hill]

why does czechoslovakia always refuse to give up

[marsh ravine]

Too small army probably

[warped hill]

i have 1 a million in the field

[lethal ether]

historical?

[warped hill]

they only accept if i have a NAP

[warped hill]

no tbf

[lethal ether]

ure demanding sudetenland right

[marsh ravine]

They only accept sudetenland?

[lethal ether]

have u started any wars or something?

also im pretty sure if they arent democratic or non alligned they wont accept

[lethal ether]

yea if u start wars before demanding them theyll never accept no matter what

[marsh ravine]

Probs bessarabia?

It should be fine anyhow

[warped hill]

yea

[atomic grove]

does anyone know a formable nation thats difficult but not extremely difficult to the point its nearly impossible?

[warped hill]

they only accept when i have an nap or a huge army

[warped hill]

hre

[atomic grove]

thats easy

i already did it

[sour nymph]

roman empirew

[lethal ether]

have u started wars before demanding?

[pearl flume]

And now Yugoslavia signed Tripartite pact

[atomic grove]

also did it

[warped hill]

no

[atomic grove]

and thats easy

[lethal ether]

what ideology are they if its non hist?

[warped hill]

democratic conservatism

[marsh ravine]

r u on r56?

[atomic grove]

thats historical im pretty sure

[sour nymph]

demopcratic portugal

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[atomic grove]

already did portugal

[warped hill]

yes

[marsh ravine]

take all chinese cores as yunnan?

[marsh ravine]

breh

umm

make sure all ur divs r equipped

ig put armies against the czechs

and is it the czechs or the allies denying sudetenland

are you at war when you go for czechs

[atomic grove]

i dont really find a lot of fun when playing chinas

[warped hill]

it said the british agreed but the french did t

[atomic grove]

because u cant defeat the allies not even in time too

[marsh ravine]

you will learn fun in the supply desert of china 💀

[warped hill]

didn’t

[lapis snow]

neo-assyria, arabia, transcaucasia

[marsh ravine]

probably put mroe divs against france then

[atomic grove]

ive known neo assyria but i genuinely dont know how to form it

is it a decision in assyria?

or d o u have to play as iraq

[marsh ravine]

i mean u dont need a peacedeal

[warped hill]

as in a front line on their border?

[marsh ravine]

i said take not own

[marsh ravine]

yes

[atomic grove]

yeah but after killing japan you cant really do anything anymore

[marsh ravine]

literally fight allies?

[lapis snow]

yeah, release and play as, then occupy this:

[marsh ravine]

take mongolia

fight soviet if u want

[atomic grove]

no

mongolia is like china but even worse

[atomic grove]

ill think about it

[warped hill]

mongolia on kaiserreicj is pain

war economy may 36 is my favourite part of germany

[marsh ravine]

can be earlier?

cant

it

second focus

idk when that finishes

i thought it was 2 35 day focuses i might be on something tho

[heavy vigil]

Always

[marsh ravine]

tf u mean always

[wary wigeon]

Hello

[atomic grove]

has been

[marsh ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mad-angry-cat-corner-gif-12553724565950260937

[mint adder]

I think they don’t like you

[dusky bramble]

What a massive production

[lapis snow]

no MIO on the designs except planes 💔

MAN on tanks instead of Henschel

tragic

[atomic grove]

the usa will never join germany's faction no matter what at all unless they are both democratic

[pearl flume]

DDAY gone back

[vapid pecan]

damn why is this achievment so rare

there are harder ones

[vapid pecan]

fire

[sudden grotto]

Maybe mostly because its still a new one

[pearl flume]

Will the UK ever turn fascist using my spies to boost my ideology there?

[vapid pecan]

ah I didnt even think about that

its prolly from graveyard of empires

[sudden grotto]

Ye

[arctic abyss]

Could be bc some don't wanna do it?

[sudden grotto]

From Afghanistan i Just miss the One where you Need to own mecca and palestine 💔 truly hateful

[vapid pecan]

I miss most achievments what require to capitulate britain with minor nations

[arctic abyss]

Did they remove some achievements or smth?

[merry pond]

well, there is maybe ideology popularity referendum

i dont remember probs 60-70 popularity needed

[pearl flume]

This game is rigged

They had a whole election where the fascists had 70% and they still lost

💀

[neat kayak]

Greater Italy is an underrated formable

You get daily compliance

[sudden grotto]

No

[sudden grotto]

We live in a trusted democracy 🗣️

Dont insult sir halifax 🗣️

[fallow grove]

Why Germany can’t get Vichy france as puppet when in rl they were a German puppet

[sudden grotto]

Because technically It was more of a allied nation following the armistice, and you gotta keep in mind that by doing this africa doesnt become a death ground and wont make germany pour tons of units in africa

[violet hawk]

sooooo am I gonna have to buy another china DLC even if I bought waking the tiger before it was free

https://tenor.com/view/suspicious-iron-man-3-robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-wait-what-gif-7193343754776124066

[sudden grotto]

I think most of us did that

[lapis snow]

people said the same thing about Goetterdaemerung and look how that turned out

[fallow grove]

Waking the tiger has the officer corps i believe

[violet hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[fallow grove]

Not sure what it has

[violet hawk]

I cant recall

[fallow grove]

When I got the game I purchased every dlc

So can’t tell what each dlc does

[lapis snow]

"sooooo am I gonna have to buy another china Germany DLC even if I bought waking the tiger before it was free"

[violet hawk]

I meant the Goetterdaemerung thing

[sudden grotto]

Gotta wait those years to save ze wallet

[violet hawk]

oh wait cause waking the tiger had germany content too u mean?

[lapis snow]

I've had the game since 2017 idc

[sudden grotto]

Didnt It have the Imperial germany? Or was It something else

[violet hawk]

yeah I think it was that

[sudden grotto]

Ig me from 2022

[sudden grotto]

Its all money well spent gotta feed pdx hungryness

[violet hawk]

I got it in 2018 or 2019 I think

[fallow grove]

It did not change Germany at all

[violet hawk]

I bought waking the tiger in 2020

[fallow grove]

It just gave you experimental facilities

The German tree was free

[violet hawk]

True

[violet hawk]

🤨

it did

[fallow grove]

So you only got to buy it if you wanted the special projects

[lapis snow]

the alt-his stuff is dlc

[violet hawk]

add german content

[lapis snow]

always has been

[violet hawk]

what

[fallow grove]

I meant the last expansion

Not that

[violet hawk]

oh

[sudden grotto]

They added the commie/Imperial and democratic path

[violet hawk]

uh huh

[sudden grotto]

The only thing that was free war the whole fascist path

The rest was in the DLC

[violet hawk]

yeah

80% of game content is dlc at this point gg

[sudden grotto]

Tho they cooked with hungary ngl Crazy rework

[lapis snow]

which is why I said we've been in this situation before with GD adding new stuff that was updated in WTT

[sudden grotto]

What do you expect? there are no things as free DLCs in 2025

[urban ivy]

actually

ark added workshop maps

as "free content"

[sudden grotto]

( in pdx )

[urban ivy]

as dlc

[sudden grotto]

Never played it

[violet hawk]

still

[sudden grotto]

I only know there are dinos there lol

[urban ivy]

tbh some aspects of the game

were more enjoyable without dlc

like imagine just researching new tanks

and using them to replace the older

no more "is this design good"

no more "my tanks are trash"

[sudden grotto]

Tho before no step back It was really boring, upgrading tanks was hella expensive

[urban ivy]

you could have just blamed the macro

[urban ivy]

yea

and where are we today

full war doctrines before war even started?

it has lost its flavor

i still remember being able to stage coups

from the diplo tavlb

tab

[sudden grotto]

I prefer this One tbf, there Is more importance to keep researchs Always where Is needed and not Just research random things

[violet hawk]

I forgot they removed that lol

[sudden grotto]

Dude that was ages ago 😭 🙏

[lapis snow]

gameplay debt from so much stuff needing xp and xp scaling being increased without changes to doctrines. All they have to do is change the doctrines and costs

[urban ivy]

when i started playing i bought a pack that had

dlc for romania and chinas

[sudden grotto]

I Remember when ships were still in a normal div icon lol

[urban ivy]

cadet pack iirc

[violet hawk]

I wish they did a DLC with diplo focus

[urban ivy]

and then i noticed my game was very different then others and i bought all dlcs

[urban ivy]

they should rework the diplomacy indeed

[violet hawk]

Millenium dawn diplomacy is peak performance

[sudden grotto]

Who Is gonna buy eu5 for sure here?

[urban ivy]

still figuring out how to play eu4

[sudden grotto]

Lol

[urban ivy]

macro is very different from hoi4

u have to take into account that u cant just go to war with everyone and face no consequences

it s like playing germany. u invade 2 countries and then the whole planet is teaming up against u

but not just different ideologies

imagine japan china and russia teaming up to stop u

with uk

(bad example but u got the idea)

[sudden grotto]

Well i think eu4 Is primarly based on diplo First, as if Everyone hates you, you are done

[urban ivy]

imagine having a royal marriage

[magic pecan]

giving myself some will power while listening to epic music and slowly starting a new world order 🙂

[urban ivy]

with ur worst enemy

and u get a heir

so now they cant attack u without horrible penalties

[atomic spoke]

first time plaing as germany and i invaded poland

any tips

[urban ivy]

and u could form a union between 2 countries if u get him as a ruler in both

like imagine that

basically poland - monarchist path on hoi4

[magic pecan]

fix the front lines

[urban ivy]

first tip. put all ur armies under a field marshall

[magic pecan]

they have free access for your land

[urban ivy]

u re losing on bonuses that u get for doing nothing

select the armies by clicking on those portraits with shift + left click to multiple select

[sudden grotto]

Lovely medieval times

[urban ivy]

when u actually had to please the peasants to not get overthrown

[lapis snow]

use Guderian in Poland too, he's not doing anything guarding the french border

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[celest heart]

Not really

Just be stronger than everyone else

And win

You get stronget by taking land

So if you take enough land it doesn’t matter if everybody hates you

[cedar lance]

or just use console commands

if you feel like not playing the game normally

thats what i do

[steep lynx]

yummers

-33 political power

[sudden grotto]

Ye, having half Europe forbyour lol

It wouldnt be a matter than if you get a early coalition against you

[neat kayak]

Continue playing

I got killed by the Dutch my first time I really played it

Back in 2023

Before learning to play the game using the console

[fallow grove]

Germany lost ww2 because Hitler didn’t switch to total mobilization

Bro had no pp