hoi4-general

[limber jackal]

same thing

[trail zinc]

no

cus if you play hist korea will still be there

if japan player needs korea puppet he can release it

[limber jackal]

ok idk dude

but absurd to remove korea

[trail zinc]

absurd to add korea

[slim nexus]

He just means to give it back to the Japan empire

[limber jackal]

meh

idk

[slim nexus]

Is by definition an historical inaccuracy

To add korea as a secondary state

It was an integrated part of the japan empire

Now after saying this

Might paradox is gonna change it might not

[trail zinc]

finally someone got it right

[raw pasture]

are they gonna add the hebei-chahar political council?

[trail zinc]

nope

mengjiang will exist

but mengjiang was formed in 1939, before it was mongol autonomous military government

so also historically inaccurate

[slim nexus]

Are you an Historian?

[raw pasture]

i think that the hoi4 devs are cooking to be honest but there could be more, but i dont blame them as it is a really early map and they could add more warlord states later on

[trail zinc]

no, but I bet many historians havent studied mengjiang that much

[raw pasture]

also Korea should be part of Japan as it was annexed in 1910 and East Hebei should be it's own nation (see East Hebei Autonomous Government)

[glad forum]

remove korea

[trail zinc]

fr

[heavy vigil]

Live reaction to hearing korean discourse

[trail zinc]

yet you are here

[glad forum]

dog.

[slim nexus]

Hey man please

Now what is this

[sharp sierra]

free kosovo palestine is serbia

[slim nexus]

From who

[sharp sierra]

whats hje talkin bout

[slim nexus]

Can you please not?

It's kinda hot topic

Not starting it would be meaningful for the pace of the chat

[raw pasture]

there MUST be more chinese warlords

[heavy vigil]

Im not on the pdx team anyway

[raw pasture]

I need the Hebei-Chahar political council immediately

[heavy vigil]

Im a helper

[limber jackal]

can someone ban this guy or smth

[trail zinc]

warlord era ended in 1928 they should be autonomous provinces

[slim nexus]

Because having a political opinion is not directly the problem, it starts a war for them is.

[limber jackal]

he's def in violation of some rule out there

[sharp sierra]

dont ban him just clown him

[slim nexus]

Just put whatever you want in your bio.

[trail zinc]

did I make you mad? Ill stop for you

[limber jackal]

i am not mad, just saying

I dont get mad that easily from random people on the internet

[mild plaza]

Lets get back to HOI4

[limber jackal]

yeh

sure

[sharp sierra]

i dont want mods getting trigger happy with bans cuz then what if i start acting a fool one night and get banned too then

[raw pasture]

they were armies that were influenced by the KMT, they still had their own government body though (e.g shansi army ruled by yan xishan) idk much about chinese history so dont take my word for it

[limber jackal]

whats yalls fav major to play?

[slim nexus]

Korea

[limber jackal]

💀

[sharp sierra]

hm idk

[raw pasture]

paraguay

[sharp sierra]

the germany larp is just too fun

[rose siren]

germany ofc

[limber jackal]

i also prefer germany

ok

what about fav minor nation

[heavy vigil]

Japan

[raw pasture]

argentina

[limber jackal]

japan aint a minor nation

[rose siren]

bulgaria

[slim nexus]

Japan

[limber jackal]

yoo

me too

[heavy vigil]

USSR?

[zenith charm]

months of house to house fighting

[limber jackal]

i love playing bulgaria

im bulgarian too

[limber jackal]

nah XD

[paper echo]

Ussr

[raw pasture]

this is the real argentina

[sharp sierra]

i dont really have a favorite anything

poland is fun ig

[slim nexus]

Poland is Hell

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-you-know-how-did-you-know-i-was-bulgarian-how-did-you-know-im-bulgarian-how-did-you-know-i-am-bulgarian-bulgaria-gif-15745314505058574110

[limber jackal]

poland is lowkey fun

[raw pasture]

i like playing as bulgaria

i also like hungary

[limber jackal]

game sees game, im bulgarian too

[sharp sierra]

guangxi clique actually

[raw pasture]

hungary is a pretty fun nation to play

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/milastauffer-whatever-eyeroll-gif-2272781714735170491

[raw pasture]

the baltic nations are also pretty fun as well

[limber jackal]

btw yall did i mention i was bulgarian 🇧🇬

[raw pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-bulgaria-scream-if-you-scream-if-scream-scream-bulgaria-gif-17302763914499349828

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-5958854468941694453

[raw pasture]

mussolini WHAT are you doing brotato chip

[limber jackal]

he's mussolining it

[paper echo]

Poland da best

One of my 2 fav nations to play

[raw pasture]

polish people eating their horse ankles with horseshoe crab

[paper echo]

Unless it's historical Poland

[slim nexus]

This

Later I am gonna show what I cook with it

[lost quest]

Andea

[harsh nest]

i love using space marines in multiplayer games

[lethal ether]

never rely on benitto

[paper echo]

Poland has a lot of good paths ngl

I also love playing as ussr

[slim nexus]

In most of them are illegal

[vestal grove]

🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱

[vestal grove]

Korea and make Korean empire

[golden egret]

Legit wondering what DLC to get

Since I have all the main reworks but im debating between AAT and Gotter
But also I want to expand the minors

[proud tapir]

alr so i decided to annex Hungary for the funny and to deny one less axis member

Italy is kinda fun ngl

i can just chill and undermine the mustache man

Its august 39, he still didnt take Czechoslovakia

[golden egret]

How much does Graveyard of empires rework the Raj and Iran?

[vestal grove]

Which ones do you have

[vestal grove]

Total revamp of raj

[golden egret]

Man the guns, Blood alone, La resistance, Not one step back, and all the dlcs that came with the base game(like walking tiger etc)

[vestal grove]

Nvm, which ones you don't habe

[golden egret]

Trail of Allegiance
Bosphorus
Graveyard
AAT and Gotter

[vestal grove]

Country packs should be bought last, unless you really play that region

[vestal grove]

Do you really really really want to play a country from a country pack?

Or would you play 3 times

[golden egret]

Turkey and Brazil

[vestal grove]

And later not

[golden egret]

But honestly AAT and Gotter revamps for all nations

That's the thing

[vestal grove]

I too think aat and gotterdamerung are more worth it

[vestal grove]

Do you wanna play nordic countries?

And reform scandinavia

And fend of the soviets

[proud tapir]

btw, if i go to war against a country that has a guarantee

And the country that guarantees also is guaranteed, will that make the countries who guarantee that country also declare war

[golden egret]

Not too much? But I'd love for a massively revamp Trade and Lend Lease

[vestal grove]

To be honest I don't know

[golden egret]

Can you be specific?

Like who is guaranteeing who?

[vestal grove]

So besides focus trees aat gives mios and market

[proud tapir]

i kidna want to take Czechoslovakia to undermine germany even more

But they are protected by Romania who is protected by France

idk if that will make France go to war against me too

[vestal grove]

Mios are a little annoying to micro but you get used to it

[golden egret]

If you declare on Czech’s it will drag Romania

France? No unless its an alliance

[vestal grove]

Then the market is eh

[proud tapir]

hmm oke

[golden egret]

Don't they give research boosts?

[vestal grove]

Yes they do actually

But after 20 plays you just do the same thing

You pre assign before starting and then start the game

And forget about them

[golden egret]

Ah gotcha

[vestal grove]

Now thing is you said you want better lend lease?

[golden egret]

Yes I'd love for a better lend lease

But I saw that Gotter’s project additions would be great, ICBMs go brrr

[vestal grove]

Well it doesn't improve lend lease

Only gives market

On market you sell equipment

Which sounds great BUT

You must first have market access with a country

So if you are soviets for example you only have with tannu tuva and mongolia

So nobody buys

[golden egret]

Ah…

Gotter it is

[proud tapir]

ah i wont risk attacking Czechoslovakia for now. They may join the allies

[vestal grove]

What is the world tension?

[proud tapir]

35%

[vestal grove]

Also gotter I like more with the reworked countries

[vestal grove]

I think to join they need like over 70

But if they are guaranteed they will join

[golden egret]

I love the inclusion of Spartacus I love niche history :>

[vestal grove]

Communist Germany is weird but not bad

[proud tapir]

Well aparently i read that wrong, they guarantee Romania

not the other way around

[vestal grove]

Then Austria is super fun

[golden egret]

But the rework for Belgium, Congo? Ehhh oh well

[vestal grove]

Hungary is good

[proud tapir]

Hopefuly guarantees on Romania drop somehow

i really want to rid the last axis

before the war

[vestal grove]

Belgium is good but Congo DO NOT PLAY

It's more of like for ai

[proud tapir]

it will completly isolate Germany in Europe

[vestal grove]

Romania drops guarantee if it becomes fascist

[vestal grove]

Iirc

[proud tapir]

hmm alr, hopefuly i can get them before they join the axis

[vestal grove]

What country are tou?

[proud tapir]

Italy

but going Italy first

ion want to help stinky germans

[vestal grove]

Do you want to join axis?

[proud tapir]

i wanna destroy them

[vestal grove]

Can you go alt history?

[proud tapir]

im doing well for now

[vestal grove]

Like italo balbo

[proud tapir]

sadly no, no bba

and also

[vestal grove]

Ah, if you could you could be fascist AND join allies

[proud tapir]

Wait thats possible?

[vestal grove]

But not as mussolini

You become the other fascist guy

And get focus to join allies

[proud tapir]

Well, its Mr.Benito against the germanic barbarians

just like Rome again

Except this time i have high hopes

[golden egret]

How so?

[proud tapir]

Germany for now is denied Austria and Hungary

[vestal grove]

Congo is more of like for the ai

Like you don't play a puppet, but they still have a focus tree

[proud tapir]

its weird tho

its like 15th august, 1939
Czechoslovakia exists

[vestal grove]

Naaaah Germany now super weak

You can easily kill them

And join the allies

If they accept

But idk

[proud tapir]

Yeah i trained up 90 divs for now

all 9/2 infantry

[vestal grove]

T emplate?

[proud tapir]

9 block infantry
support engineers
support arty

[golden egret]

Gotcha

[vestal grove]

First nation you should try is Austria and make Austria hungary

[proud tapir]

man is it fun being Italy and completly ruining the entire German plan

[icy crescent]

^ Without DLC.

[proud tapir]

pact of steel?
Nah bro im taking Austria and Hungary

[vestal grove]

With dlc

[icy crescent]

Alright.

[wary wigeon]

Hello

[frank igloo]

the only things I don't like about the new map is the xian clique, lack of a warlord state in beijing

and the ugly color pallet of china overall

the most of the warlords in 1936 had sworn allegiance to the centeral government and should be colored in as such imo

also the yellow is ugly I think a dark blue would be better looking and fit with the ROCs ideology

[lone sail]

Pov: Historical

[ebon wolf]

How to deafet France as Germany, Im so strugling

[hybrid galleon]

Is that Korea guy still here?

[stark coyote]

Thanks

Tanks*

[ebon wolf]

how many divisions should I have?

[stark coyote]

I usually have 6 24w tanks

[fallow grove]

So the new update will be a Chinese dlc?

[vestal grove]

He didn't say something for like an hour

[stark coyote]

That should do for the early stage of the war

[hybrid galleon]

Sorta and a Japan rework

[vestal grove]

And japan

[hybrid galleon]

Thank god

[stark coyote]

Yes, and Japan

[ebon wolf]

medium with motorised?

[fallow grove]

Cool

[neat kayak]

Paratroopers 🔥

[vestal grove]

As which country?

[ebon wolf]

air supermacy…

[stark coyote]

Ig Siam, Indonesia and Malasya will have something since it the dev corner it says "South East Asia"

But since its nothing official 💔

[ebon wolf]

As Germany ( 3 reich)

[stark coyote]

Yet

[neat kayak]

main menu cheese....

[stark coyote]

Yeah

[vestal grove]

Go around maginot

And attack belgium

[neat kayak]

belgium can be quite tricky

[fallow grove]

You can go through maginot if you bomb forts

[ebon wolf]

But france will just send divisions there

[neat kayak]

especially since it has a focus tree

[vestal grove]

But France is bad

So don't worry

There is a reason France lost innww2

[hybrid galleon]

Focus on the Dutch then strike south and west on Belgium then go buck wild in France

[neat kayak]

In 1939 i think france has like 40-100 divisions

so around 60

[vestal grove]

Actually multiple but that's part 2

[neat kayak]

i might be wrong

[neat kayak]

Main reason is pride

[hybrid galleon]

One of those ones weren’t the soldiers, those guys fought like legends

[neat kayak]

France lost cuz of pride

[fallow grove]

The worst country in ww2 is Italy

[neat kayak]

their proudness for winning ww2 left them without reforms

still using cav

[vestal grove]

Yeah and the fact they relied on ww1 when GAULLE told them this could happen!!!!!!!!!!!

[neat kayak]

when the Germans used tanks and fast movements

[vestal grove]

Ardennes left almost unguarded

[neat kayak]

they hoped for a trench warfare leaving the Ardennes open

[vestal grove]

Germans literally used some French tactics from gaulle

[neat kayak]

which the germans pushed through the ardennes

[vestal grove]

So they died from their own tactics

[lone sail]

Sanest mass assault user

[paper echo]

Bro why did paradox not show us Japanese content yet 💔

[neat kayak]

And Britain couldn't been knocked out of war

not invaded

[paper echo]

Rookie numbers

[neat kayak]

if the people would've been demoralized enough

they would demand peace

[neat kayak]

Chamberlain was in no way ready for ww2

[vestal grove]

France could have held but...

A lot of mistakes

[hybrid galleon]

The trees would stop the tanks trust trust

[neat kayak]

France was a turmoil in interwar

[stark coyote]

Nope

They just let us see the change in name dawg 💔

[vestal grove]

The tanks can't go through trees guys, trust me! Proceeds to Germany encircled because of this

[stark coyote]

Empire of Japan is all we got

[lone sail]

France had a skill issue

[paper echo]

The most important thing frfr

[stark coyote]

And Korea

[lone sail]

they lost even with space marine divisions

[paper echo]

And flag change I think

[stark coyote]

Didnt knew that

The rising sun one?

[paper echo]

Oh wait I think im wrong

[stark coyote]

Oh

[neat kayak]

France had riots , a sluggish economy and ww1 priding even after 20 years

[vestal grove]

They will tell is of Japan too

[hybrid galleon]

Funny enough the Germans did get a traffic jam and most of the army was in one long line but the allies refused to bomb the Germans that were in a straight line

[vestal grove]

And I hate the fact they didn't pay a dime to Gaulles sayings

[hybrid galleon]

Because this is 1940 allies so they are dumb

[neat kayak]

Gaulle cooked

[vestal grove]

The French were cowards

[neat kayak]

even though his country collapsed

and he is still seen as a coward

but still

[hybrid galleon]

The command structure were cowards not the soldiers

[vestal grove]

Yes he cooked mobile warfare but France ignored it

[vestal grove]

And the command structure was designed by upper french

[neat kayak]

German mistakes slowly pierced the "invincible" war machine

[vestal grove]

So the French were cowards (but not all of them)

[paper echo]

We should copyright history from stealing hoi4 stuff

[neat kayak]

and the fact that they had allies not ready for war

[hybrid galleon]

Hobart came up with something VERY close to blitzkrieg before the Germans made it but British high command didn’t want to use it

[neat kayak]

italy was not incompetent

it was just not ready for war

[vestal grove]

Yes exactly

But they joined

To show they are strong

But this was useless

They weren't strong yet

They could not prove anything

[stark coyote]

I did that once with Bannerlord lmao

[neat kayak]

Italy annexed albania cuz mr schmidler eliminated austria and the czechoslovaks

[stark coyote]

Garios losed his head

[neat kayak]

and he wanted to show that italy is powerfuk

powerful*

[vestal grove]

Then tried also taking greece

And literally had to get help from Hitler

[paper echo]

And we saw how that went

[vestal grove]

Because Greece advanced

Greece underrated

[paper echo]

We cooked Italy till Germany came

[neat kayak]

but also the fact that the allies robbed italy at Paris post ww1

[vestal grove]

In ww2

[vestal grove]

Oh yes that's why they joined ww2

Otherwise they could have got a reliable ally

[neat kayak]

trust me if italy got their claims

Germany wouldn't lasted till 45

maximum a 41

with indulgence

[vestal grove]

Well that what happened to Germany too, but instead of getting robbed they were over punished

[neat kayak]

Pushing through the alps would've been sluggish

[vestal grove]

And this made radicalism

[stark coyote]

The Japanese also had the Italian treatment

[neat kayak]

It was austria's fault for starting ww1

[paper echo]

I also had the Italian treatment in my hoi4 games 😔

[vestal grove]

Yes, but Germany is getting the blame

[stark coyote]

It already existed, it only normalized to terrible levels

[inner jewel]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[neat kayak]

For demanding the last fact on the ultimatum

[vestal grove]

Germany only wanted to defend Austria, their friend

[neat kayak]

that being the puppet of serbia

[uncut pollen]

Guees who gets netflix premium for free🤑 🤑 🤑

[vestal grove]

You?

[neat kayak]

then in the 1 month window

[paper echo]

Me?

[neat kayak]

Russia mobilised first

Followed by Germany , Austria and France

[uncut pollen]

(A hacker hacked into my account and changed the subscription)

[neat kayak]

And when germany set foot on belgian soil

[uncut pollen]

YES and that for 1 month

[neat kayak]

the British empire joined on 4th of august

[stark coyote]

Not so much either, it is an expected response when Serbia was involved in the murder of Franz Ferdinand

In the First World War there was not really a culprit since everyone contributed to a greater or lesser extent

With the exception of the United Kingdom

[paper echo]

Should've pararadrop into France and cap them

[vestal grove]

How come

[neat kayak]

Fr

[stark coyote]

Lucky you 🔥🔥

[slim nexus]

Would anyone be interested in a coop vs AI game? Only like one to four of us vs the world?

[neat kayak]

Austrian demands where accepted by serbia except the last one

[uncut pollen]

Lucky me? Everything was on spanish i couldnt read a thing

[neat kayak]

where it demanded full subjugation

[stark coyote]

Unlucky you

[paper echo]

Are you on pc or mobile

[vestal grove]

I would after a week

When I come home

[uncut pollen]

A hacker hacked into my account and changed the subscription so i called customer
Support and they gave me 1 month for free

[stark coyote]

That's why I said they all aport something, But really the Austrian response was to be expected

[trail zinc]

btw korea should be removed

[neat kayak]

yes but not now

[uncut pollen]

Why are you asking?

[neat kayak]

tommorow j*b

[stark coyote]

I could later

[paper echo]

Why does bro hate Korea

[stark coyote]

In some hours

[neat kayak]

an european conflict was expected

[paper echo]

If you are on pc you can just translate the page

[stark coyote]

Not a world wide one 💀💀💀💀💀

[vestal grove]

That one blonde meme with a woman talking hables espanol

[uncut pollen]

Lucky you i got fired from my job

[stark coyote]

Russians have also a lot to do with the escalation

[neat kayak]

scramble for africa , Franco-German rivalry, Austrian-russian rivalry

[uncut pollen]

Im on tv

[paper echo]

Damn

[neat kayak]

it became world wide when the US joined

the other non european allies we're useless

maybe japan

but not that much

[uncut pollen]

Bone jaw?

[cerulean peak]

👉👈

[stark coyote]

I think u need some guns dawg

[vestal grove]

No no

On the airplane

[cerulean peak]

XD

[neat kayak]

Also Germany lost cuz of allies

[uncut pollen]

You atleast got some steel

[neat kayak]

this time pure stupidity

[vestal grove]

What job did you jabe if zi can ask

[stark coyote]

I think you're exporting a lot of steel

[uncut pollen]

Out of iron 4

[vestal grove]

This was a good one

[uncut pollen]

Nope congo does not have steel

[vestal grove]

Stalin, man of no steel

[stark coyote]

I think Steel'nt

[neat kayak]

A multiethnic empire and a collapsing empire

these aren't allies

[vestal grove]

You "steel" don't have steel?

[cerulean peak]

Well... This is my hardest game against the Soviet Union. But, restoring the borders of the Brest Peace is worth it))

[stark coyote]

On paper Austria should be competent enough

ON PAPER

[graceful yacht]

hello

[neat kayak]

Austria was pure stupid

[stark coyote]

Ottomans were pretty much death

[uncut pollen]

I dont understand

[trail zinc]

thats so false, the last demand was that serbia let austrian officials partake in the investigation of the assasination of archduke ferdinand.

[uncut pollen]

I get capitulated in 1 year as germany against the soviet union

[stark coyote]

U are right, But we arent removing Korea dawg

Because I want it

[uncut pollen]

In 1941

[trail zinc]

irrelevant to this conversation, point still stands.

[neat kayak]

i read wrong about it then

[trail zinc]

serbia was already economically subjagated

[uncut pollen]

Anyways im going to shower take care yall

[cerulean peak]

Well, I am the same way, but this time something went wrong... It's just that before that I had to split into three fronts

[stark coyote]

Cya

[neat kayak]

Serbia was doing meh

Only bad thing was the pig war

[uncut pollen]

Well than good for you

[jovial bough]

How many hours do you have on hoi?

[vestal grove]

Still = steel

[rich chasm]

gng should i quit

[silk matrix]

the flag is so horrible lol#

[stark coyote]

Btw Flowi, can I dm u later? Dont mind when u answer but I need some opinion 🗣️🔥

[cerulean peak]

It's visible...

[trail zinc]

serbia should just accepted the last point, its obvious they were hiding something.

[neat kayak]

If stalin was with you he would've slapped you cuz not a single step back

[vestal grove]

You should main something else, quit ussr not the gamr

[stark coyote]

Well yeah, They were directly involved in Franz's death

So gg's

[neat kayak]

It was the black hand who did it

as a response to the bosnian annexation

tbh that was a pointless war

[jovial bough]

It's save-able

[trail zinc]

ahh yes definitely not occupied since 1878, which the great powers approved of

[stark coyote]

Yeah, but some government affiliates collaborated

[neat kayak]

but the blood was boiling in the "big empires"

[neat kayak]

Yeah

[paper echo]

NO DONT BREAK HOI4 RULE NUMBER ONE

[stark coyote]

That includes Russia too

[neat kayak]

Russia was one of the main reasons

their desire to control the balkans

[stark coyote]

We shouldn't shower? I knew what I did last night was blasphemy

[neat kayak]

made them enter a conflict with Austria

and a rivalry

[trail zinc]

Russia literally approved the occupation but later disagreeing when they annexed it

Central powers were the good guys

[stark coyote]

I wouldn't call them exactly the good guys

[neat kayak]

there is no good side in a war

And talking about good guys

[paper echo]

Apologize to the whole hoi4 community

[neat kayak]

Belgium and Armenia.....

not so the good guys

[jovial bough]

Just because the russians were bad doesn't mean the CP were good

[silk matrix]

The SPD (radical guy) flag is better

[neat kayak]

Belgium was neutral

[silk matrix]

Am having a seizure by looking at the flag

[neat kayak]

and the armenians being starved and killed bc the ottomans died in the winted trying to break through caucasus

[trail zinc]

British blockade, Britain arming merchant vessels

[neat kayak]

Both teams did horrible things

and there is no "good side" in wars

[paper echo]

World stole ww1 from great war redux

[stark coyote]

I want to apologize to the HOI4 community

I have committed one of the most horrifying and aberrant crimes of our days, yet I did it in ignorance

To all my brothers in the HOI4 community, I accept that I sinned and took a bath last night

I promise that to make amends for my mistake, I will never do it again and play another 4k hours of the game

[trail zinc]

Central powers = Germany Austria, Bulgaria did little and ottomans did nothing

[paper echo]

Good boy

[stark coyote]

Hell nah, delete that or I will not be apologizing

[neat kayak]

f you mean bulgaria did little

[trail zinc]

Romania, Italy, Greece swept in because they wanted territories from central powers

[paper echo]

You already did

[neat kayak]

bulgaria was the second best CP nation

[stark coyote]

Never again

I might made a mistake, but this wont happen twice dawg

[neat kayak]

Austria was pure retardism

[stark coyote]

CP?

[neat kayak]

Central Powers

abreviation

[stark coyote]

Oh

Please don't do it again 😭

[trail zinc]

Austria was fighting 3 fronts, izonso, eastern front and Transylvania

[paper echo]

Central powers bro

[trail zinc]

They pushed Italy too

[neat kayak]

Eastern front and transylvania we're moving in their favour

[sudden grotto]

Well thry simply were in a Better position than others

[neat kayak]

and isonzo was trench warfare

[sudden grotto]

Command Power broski

[trail zinc]

They were close to Venice

[neat kayak]

That was Germany at capporetto 💀

Austria lost 30% of war manpower in the battle of Galicia

[stark coyote]

Izonso was meat grinder for Italy

[paper echo]

Don't remove Korea paradox

[neat kayak]

Fr

[trail zinc]

Greece never capitulated

[neat kayak]

Greece barely lost any territory

[trail zinc]

Btw

[neat kayak]

what ww1 you know broski?

[urban ivy]

L or W

[paper echo]

Greece had it's own political problems

[stark coyote]

W

[trail zinc]

And Bulgaria was ”2nd” best

[safe wing]

W

[urban ivy]

wrong

[stark coyote]

Prussians of the Balkans 🗣️

[urban ivy]

i didnt beat the soviets yet

[stark coyote]

Still a W 💔

[neat kayak]

AH YES AUSTRIA CARRIED THE CENTRAL POWERS

[trail zinc]

Greece was in ww1

[neat kayak]

i know

[sudden grotto]

Well they entered in the war sufdenly so the central Powers didnt have all that Power strenght as in the First years, they even entered late

[flat barn]

hi friends

[neat kayak]

they we're the key piece to break in the balkans

[urban ivy]

"carried"

[flat barn]

and me

[trail zinc]

Germany Carried

[jovial bough]

Why did you go communist

[neat kayak]

Greece was divided between the king which wanted the CP and the president which wanted Entente

[cerulean peak]

XDDDDDDDDDDD))))

[flat barn]

12 isonsos

[neat kayak]

i was ironic....

[flat barn]

I LOVE THIS SO MUCH

[jovial bough]

As if the balkans were peaceful

[uncut pollen]

Dm me if you dare

[flat barn]

IM GETTING EXCITED AND RUBBING MY LEGS AND JUMPING UP AND DOWN

[neat kayak]

wait not peace

[urban ivy]

occupation law

[neat kayak]

i wrote wrong

piece*

[urban ivy]

30% local factories

[neat kayak]

sorry

let me correct

[sudden grotto]

I am talking about their entry in war.

[flat barn]

@trail zinc 😊

[urban ivy]

i would have picked fascist if i was going to puppet every neighbour i had

[stark coyote]

It sounds more like a threat than approval 😭

[neat kayak]

Yeah greece entered pretty late

in 1917

but their entry made a huge diff

[uncut pollen]

You can dm me anytime you want

[sudden grotto]

Ye, how do you think centeal Powers have the strenght to push them out of the penisula

Duhhh

[neat kayak]

Vardar offensive knocking bulgaria out on 29 september

[trail zinc]

USA joined 1917

So

And Russia left 1917

[languid copper]

Greece when they hear it's time to kill their neighbours (national pastime)

[neat kayak]

Russia wasn't ready at all for ww1

but they we're first to mobilise

[stark coyote]

Since ancient times 🔥🔥🔥

[sudden grotto]

Greece when a dog crosses the border*

[paper echo]

True story 💀

[stark coyote]

Yes 😭

[safe wing]

Basically Emperor Manuel in my medieval II Byzantine campaign

[stark coyote]

I felt bad foe the dog tho

[sudden grotto]

I love dying for a dog lol

[uncut pollen]

Exept for tommorow night and the next 2 days after tommorow @stark coyote

[sudden grotto]

Oki doki

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-megatron-evil-laugh-laugh-maniacal-laugh-gif-12853105277109231392

[sudden grotto]

Ig

Lol

[stark coyote]

Wrong tag lol

[uncut pollen]

Wrong ping sorry

[neat kayak]

But in the end

[stark coyote]

Got ya, thank u 🔥

[sudden grotto]

[uncut pollen]

I noticed

[paper echo]

Imma dm you tomorrow at night

[neat kayak]

WW1 wasn't that necessary

[uncut pollen]

Dont do it

[sudden grotto]

Balkans: hear me out.

[paper echo]

Ok then I'll dm in 2 days

[jovial bough]

It was tho

[neat kayak]

Balkans are made to have wars

[rose siren]

🤓 moment

[neat kayak]

there is no way it can be peace in this region

[uncut pollen]

Still no

[paper echo]

Lol

[safe wing]

Also Cassidy as well in that EU4 campaign

[neat kayak]

Not really

[stark coyote]

Guys

[neat kayak]

it led to a big and more deadly conflict

[stark coyote]

Tonight's the night

[neat kayak]

and also the poverty of eastern europe

[uncut pollen]

Im available on monday

[stark coyote]

And it'll happen again

[uncut pollen]

Again

[sudden grotto]

Let them have peace lol

[stark coyote]

And again

[uncut pollen]

I need some context

[rose siren]

The electricity is out?

[neat kayak]

They can't have

There are two teams

[paper echo]

Just unite the balkans to solve border disputes and I'm sure nothing bad will happen

[stark coyote]

Just Dexter

[stark coyote]

Hopefully no

[uncut pollen]

Or its on

[neat kayak]

Serbia , Romania and Greece versus albania , kosovo , croatia ,bulgaria and bosnia

[uncut pollen]

Who is that

[safe wing]

Cassidy Palaiologos the Conquerer

[trail zinc]

Serbia should accepted that ultimatum

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[stark coyote]

Him

[neat kayak]

yeah no

[jovial bough]

It would have still happend, the tensions were high

[trail zinc]

Yeah, yeah

[neat kayak]

Austria should've keept their imperial thirst at bay

[rose siren]

I love that serie

[paper echo]

Bulgaria would've fought both sides and then get it's ass clapped

[quiet yacht]

Because of italian staff incompetence

[urban ivy]

u already joined the forces of the 2 strongest balkan armies

[stark coyote]

Me too

S4 was peak

[urban ivy]

and added greece on top of it

[neat kayak]

Nuh uh , Prussia of the Balkans never falls

[trail zinc]

So you shouldn’t be allowed to have your officials to be in the investigation of the archduke that was assasinated

[paper echo]

Greece would probably carry air

[neat kayak]

Romania and Serbia are the oldest allies in the balkan region

[rose siren]

I loved the trinity killer 🙏

He was a great villain

[safe wing]

Whats going on

[neat kayak]

Just demand reparations

[urban ivy]

not really allies

[safe wing]

Whats happening tonight

[neat kayak]

we are

[paper echo]

Greece and Serbia are also old allies I think

[stark coyote]

I hate em

[trail zinc]

They accepted everything except for one thing which is what I sent, they were hiding smth

[stark coyote]

It's going to happen again

[neat kayak]

Not really

Romania( wallachia at that time) was allied with Serbia

[rose siren]

Nerd 😭😭

[paper echo]

A hoi4 player will take a sh*wer

[neat kayak]

but we're conquered by the ottomans

[stark coyote]

But he is great ngl

[safe wing]

What’s going to happen again

[rose siren]

Yes

[stark coyote]

Dexter reference 🔥

[safe wing]

Oh

[rose siren]

Hey little brother, missed me?

[neat kayak]

In the end ww2 could've been prevented

if the allies stepped a bit earlier

than Poland

[uncut pollen]

I already toke my daily shower

[quiet yacht]

Expanding was their goal. His death only delivered the perfect casus belli

[urban ivy]

need smth to play

gimme suggestions

[paper echo]

I wish there was a map game that was about ww2 and had the word iron in it

[uncut pollen]

Tf2

[jovial bough]

El Salvador WC

[uncut pollen]

Cs2

Hl2

[paper echo]

Bro just offended every hoi4 player

[urban ivy]

not hoi4

[uncut pollen]

Portal2

[paper echo]

Insurgency sandstorm

[quiet yacht]

San marino

[uncut pollen]

Why that?

[jovial bough]

Roblox

[uncut pollen]

Dont they take showers?

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/h2-adachi-mitsuru-hikari-right-to-choose-gif-13581055648859748200

[urban ivy]

i havent taken a shower since the last time i played a full hoi4 campaign

[uncut pollen]

and when was it?

[quiet yacht]

Some hour ago?

[jovial bough]

I lowk miss hoi4

[paper echo]

Number 1 rule of the national hearts of iron rule list says:
When a person starts playing hoi4 he/she needs to agree that he/she will never take a shower

[uncut pollen]

I took a shower and i enjoyed every second of it

[jovial bough]

Blasphemy

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/koshkamitsa-koshka-cat-shower-кошкамытся-gif-18184491501674883021

[paper echo]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-gif-23629448

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/shower-time-gif-3231793264515822937

[urban ivy]

2 months ago

[uncut pollen]

Sadly nobody showert me while i wore a pretty hat

[uncut pollen]

Me im the shower

[paper echo]

Man I wish a company named paradox makes a game about ww2 and make it have the word iron in the name

And also make 4 of these games

And don't forget to fill it with dlcs (half of them are bad)

[jovial bough]

Proof?

[uncut pollen]

Out of iron 4

[uncut pollen]

No u weirdo

[paper echo]

Pls show me your last production line

[jovial bough]

Just say you don't shower gng

[uncut pollen]

What?

[paper echo]

I'm sure you produce like 2 gun per month

[stark coyote]

HOI4 server moment

[paper echo]

According to your steel

[uncut pollen]

I will not send an video of me showering

[paper echo]

Don't forget to make ships

[uncut pollen]

6 weapons a day

[urban ivy]

regular ppl would have sent proof

[stark coyote]

Really? 😭

[paper echo]

Wtf do you produce that takes all your steel

[flat barn]

I cant find a fanmade hoi4 tno music soundtrack

[uncut pollen]

I didnt it was 1952

[rose siren]

🤩🤩🤩

[jovial bough]

Yes, but flowi is not regular

[stark coyote]

But

[uncut pollen]

1 military factory of ww1 weapons

[stark coyote]

I took a shower yesterday 💔

[paper echo]

At least you apologized

[uncut pollen]

What am i then?

[urban ivy]

do you happen to know

if u still get half the jap fleet

when japan goes commie

[jovial bough]

Irregular(hoi4 reference)

[urban ivy]

(when u re playing as manchukuo)

[paper echo]

These shitty Italian units

[uncut pollen]

Im gonna do so if i undrstand it

[paper echo]

What's yall favorite nations to play as in hoi

Mine are ussr and Poland

[vestal grove]

Boi what the heck I just came back from a shower why is everyone talking about that

[urban ivy]

poland

[paper echo]

W

[vestal grove]

Oh nvm I was late with like 2 mins

[jovial bough]

Japan and Guangxi Clique

[urban ivy]

very satisfying being able to produce air and tanks as poland

but i dont want to put in the effort to do it as germany

[vestal grove]

Poland, Argentina, mexico

[paper echo]

What about skibidi San ma

[paper echo]

Poland mentioned message approved

[jovial bough]

Im no masochist

[paper echo]

No what?

[kind vale]

German empire

[vestal grove]

Which nations you don't approve?

[paper echo]

W

[jovial bough]

Massochist

[paper echo]

Interesting question

Let me think

[kind vale]

Restore Germany to its former glory

[jovial bough]

The person who likes hurting themselves

[paper echo]

Sinkiang and yunnan and idk what else

[paper echo]

Oh ok

[uncut pollen]

I came back from an shower too

[fallen vigil]

BRO WHY ISNT THE CIRCLE GOING NORTH WHY IS IT GOING SOUTH

[kind vale]

Japan and the uk

[vestal grove]

Wow Bluetooth showering

[paper echo]

Cuz hoi4 sucks

[tough patio]

the dogmeat general has reunited china

[vestal grove]

Did you water suddenly turn cold

[uncut pollen]

Huh?

[vestal grove]

Out of nowhere

[jovial bough]

Border wall

[uncut pollen]

No?

[paper echo]

Mod?

[uncut pollen]

It was hot

[vestal grove]

Mine did

[tough patio]

ik

[paper echo]

I meant what mod is this lol

[uncut pollen]

Like this

[tough patio]

but anyways the dogmeat general has reunited china

[tough patio]

kaiserreich

[uncut pollen]

Why that?

[paper echo]

Alr

[vestal grove]

Because I turned it cold

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-dog-meat-dog-fallout4-video-game-gif-4727829

[uncut pollen]

Why that?😭

[vestal grove]

Because my hand had moved to the changer but I was at someone else's home and I forgot it's reverse

So instead it was cold and I was trying to make it colder

[fallen vigil]

god i love late game hoi4

[silk tide]

aye

China rework kinda fire

[uncut pollen]

So you want a shower to be cold?

[stark coyote]

Cold showers are normal here 🔥

[atomic spoke]

Does someone have a good tank divison for Germany

[vestal grove]

No, but the switcher was reverse

[uncut pollen]

I personaly like hot showers

[vestal grove]

I thought if I do it left it goes hot

It went cold

[uncut pollen]

They relaxe me soooooo gooooood

[paper echo]

Rip xibei San ma

[sudden grotto]

When i try to run yugo but they join the chinese front

[uncut pollen]

Oh now i understand it

[stark coyote]

My face during my Mughals run

[median gull]

Does sending expeditionary forces get you war participation?

[sudden grotto]

Me during hardly anything sevres

[stark coyote]

I like coldish since here it's always hot as hell 😔

[stark coyote]

Also 😭😭😭😭

That achievement was pain for

Me

+100 runs trying Hardly Anything Sevres

[uncut pollen]

So you dont like to relax after takimg a hot shower

Bc im now eepy

[vestal grove]

Hardy anything served while doing the achievement, huh?

[stark coyote]

I relax with a cold one, At least when it's hot

[vestal grove]

I relax with a cold beer

[stark coyote]

Yes dawg, Hardly Anything Sevres 💔

[urban ivy]

oh boy

where are the times when this was considered a focus

[silk tide]

I might start playing hoi4 again, should i?

[stark coyote]

I don't miss them

[vestal grove]

Yes

[uncut pollen]

I relax with out of iron 4 and a couple german beers

[stark coyote]

USSR tree was so bad

[uncut pollen]

(Jk)

[sudden grotto]

If you love pain so much ig so

[vestal grove]

I relax with German iron and a hoi4 beer

[silk tide]

I want to do painful achievments kinda

[stark coyote]

I relax with a german and a beer

[sudden grotto]

Water Is the way 🗣️ ( Monsters for big runs )

[past raven]

Ayo

[silk tide]

I have 3k hours and like 150 achievments

[vestal grove]

You edited into without

[past raven]

My name is Jeff

[sudden grotto]

Do the British india company, you Need to control Suez and panama

[vestal grove]

What???

[uncut pollen]

I made a Pelling mistake

[stark coyote]

What's that pfp 😭😭😭😭😭

[silk tide]

I dont have GoE

[sudden grotto]

I got more than you 🗣️ lesss go

[sudden grotto]

F

[stark coyote]

I didn't think of it that way 💀

[vestal grove]

Peeling? Like a banana? 🍌

[silk tide]

Look i spent money in a better way (stellaris dlc)

[sudden grotto]

Fighting the empire was too expensive...he needs some income

[uncut pollen]

Spelling mistake

I hate my phone

[stark coyote]

What's his Onlyjedis?

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-gif-3944837017366223108

[vestal grove]

I relax with a hoi4 and a german dude (it's the mustache guy in hoi4)

[grizzled yarrow]

YESSSS

[stark coyote]

Hell nah 💔

[grizzled yarrow]

YEEEEEEESSSS

[sudden grotto]

Yoda_Hotpics ig

[stark coyote]

N9

No

[grizzled yarrow]

USSR IS MINE

[vestal grove]

[I hope I don't have to specify to the law that I am not in ANY way affiliated with him]

[sudden grotto]

Neuron activation

[silk tide]

Holy peak

[sudden grotto]

You are not affiliated to Charlie Chaplin? Dyaum

[vestal grove]

How much per neptunian hour?

[grizzled yarrow]

This gave me so much dopamine

[sudden grotto]

2 death stars, its expensive but worth it

[vestal grove]

I wished I was.... but he kinda can't even affiliated with anyone

[grizzled yarrow]

Needed a friend to help me tho

[silk tide]

I swear i never did poland romania, for whatever reason i always went flr czechoslovakia

[vestal grove]

With 2 death stars I can get jupiterian baddies

[grizzled yarrow]

I managed to encircle ALL OF UKRAINE

[sudden grotto]

Not like yoda.

[stark coyote]

Me with 2 Pandorans baddies

[sudden grotto]

Guys look at the last time at xibei before It goes away...

[silk tide]

So like 200 divisions which is 0.003% of the soviet army

[urban ivy]

is anyone here familiar

with general AI paths

[vestal grove]

Me with 0 baddies

[sudden grotto]

Hmm?

[grizzled yarrow]

Th u mean 0.0003%

Soviets got 5M casualties

[silk tide]

Xibei san ma forever staying in our hearts 😭

[winter timber]

Germany has 51 ships, Britain 300+, and America 300+

[grizzled yarrow]

I had 1.9M

[stark coyote]

Yes, we are HOI4 players

[winter timber]

like bro...

[sudden grotto]

I spent It all on hoi4 dlcs lol, It was discounted by 3 death stars, i needed it

[urban ivy]

how can i know if japan is starting the commie path

[vestal grove]

I was close to getting one

[urban ivy]

do they start the unthinkable option as 1st focus?

[stark coyote]

You know how we call that?

[silk tide]

Hungary mentioned raaaaaaah

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/wh40k-warhammer40000-warhammer40k-smile-happy-gif-15462749

[sudden grotto]

Look at the party growth

[urban ivy]

so far, if they start manchurian project they go fascist

if they start purge kodoha they go fascist

[stark coyote]

Ig WH guys are same

[urban ivy]

if they start army expansion law they go non aligned

[vestal grove]

Warhammer guys just paint their baddies

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/h2-adachi-mitsuru-hikari-right-to-choose-gif-13581055648859748200

[urban ivy]

im their puppet i see what focus they pick

[stark coyote]

Battle sisters

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[sudden grotto]

Then whats the prob lol

[urban ivy]

i want to know what focus do they start if they re going communist

[stark coyote]

Japan?

[urban ivy]

yes

[stark coyote]

They always take the unthinkable option first

[urban ivy]

always?

[stark coyote]

At least the times I saw them choosing that path

[urban ivy]

uh ok

[stark coyote]

Japan usually goes politic first

[urban ivy]

not really]

[stark coyote]

Or the first few months

[urban ivy]

if they do the shogunate they pick army expansion law first

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-sleep-singing-in-the-shower-silly-man-take-a-shower-gif-18525702

[urban ivy]

if fascist, manchurian project / purge kodoha

[rose siren]

😂😂😂

[stark coyote]

Anyways, Im pretty sure they do the unthinkable option if they going commie

[stark coyote]

You werent go to sleep?

Lmaooo

[rose siren]

I am in bed now yes

Just discording

[urban ivy]

do you also know how to get half their fleet?

[fallen vigil]

tf happened here?

[stark coyote]

They give you everything when they start the civil war if I remember correctly

Or when it ends

Because it also gives hebei

[urban ivy]

i only get generals

[stark coyote]

Really?

[urban ivy]

the only time i managed to get them to go commie

the war lasted a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time

like almost 2 years

[vestal grove]

I think they went senor hilter path

[stark coyote]

Damn

[urban ivy]

i got an event to choose between 2 stuff

[stark coyote]

That's way too much

[urban ivy]

one said ANNEX THE REMAINING PART OF JAPAN AND GET MANPOWER

it didnt work

they got fully annexed by commie japan before i got that event

maybe it was russian civil war that messed some shit up

[obtuse lodge]

can i increase special forces limit?

[stark coyote]

Cant tell

[stark coyote]

Yes

[vestal grove]

Through more divisions and doctrine

[urban ivy]

yes, spam a lot of 2w infantry and force convert to 40w cavalry

[obtuse lodge]

what doctrine

[stark coyote]

More batallions deployed or doctrine

[stark coyote]

Special forces ones

[urban ivy]

this is how u artificially inflate special forces cap

[obtuse lodge]

aight

do you mean these?

[urban ivy]

u dont have the dlc

for special forces

[stark coyote]

Yeah

You need AAT dlc for special forces doctrines

[vestal grove]

The military explaining how they suddenly have 142 divisions that all of them contain 20 battalions of cavalry, none of them fully armed and just starving

[rose siren]

A good dlc 🙏

[stark coyote]

Yesterday I was doing Swedish Ahistorical

Everything was looking good since UK goes communist with France and USSR did left opp

[rose siren]

Lets go the monarchy

[obtuse lodge]

which doctrine is good for japan anyway?

[stark coyote]

But Germany took Jutland so I couldn't core all the nordics and ragequited 😭

[stark coyote]

GBP R imo

[obtuse lodge]

with no dlc?

[vestal grove]

Remember when you asked what gdp r is good?

[stark coyote]

Yes

[vestal grove]

And I told you to try it with poland

[stark coyote]

Grand Battle Plan Right Path

[rose siren]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[stark coyote]

I tried it with every nation

It's fire with special forces

[urban ivy]

gbp L

[vestal grove]

Even tanu tuvanese people's republic of democratic Congolese Armenia?

[obtuse lodge]

ill do right since im not using tanks

[stark coyote]

Let me fix what I said

I tried it with all the nations I played recently

[urban ivy]

that's not why u do GBP L

u also get 20% more planning

[vestal grove]

In china you need supply

Gbp r gives supply

[obtuse lodge]

most of it is for armour though. that would just go to waste

[urban ivy]

u have plenty supply

[stark coyote]

20% is still good

[urban ivy]

not to worry about shit

[obtuse lodge]

plus planning is rlly boring

[lethal ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198708027046510674/1246072606348673104/attachment-3.gif

[stark coyote]

Use the command hability

[vestal grove]

Well you also get 12.5% more stats

With night attack

[stark coyote]

+400% planning speed

[urban ivy]

wrong

i didnt have the planning fully stacked

[vestal grove]

This is why France planning is op, they get 10% more planning

[urban ivy]

look at the dif

[urban ivy]

that's not france

[vestal grove]

I know but just adding on how op is planning

[vestal grove]

Also can anyone explain the country buffs debuffs?