hoi4-general

[kind vale]

1938 as Germany going down the monarch path but I haven't done the civil war yet

[urban ivy]

the same shit

twice

[silent root]

This just doesn't make sense

[urban ivy]

i already explained with enough details

[lethal ether]

i love how hes asking for help then saying youre wrong

[urban ivy]

u re just hard on your head

[silent root]

It isn't makeing sense tho thats why

[lethal ether]

scroll up and read

[kind vale]

It's not polish land its purely Germans that are there not polish thats why

[lethal ether]

it makes perfect sense

[silent root]

why did nierdeschlesien get cored but not the rest

[lethal ether]

scroll up and read it makes perfect sense

[silent root]

It truly doesn't

even if the cities only got renamed why I cored those 2 states

[safe wing]

taking a temp break from hoi4 I have to deal with Turks and Mongols in the east, and Hungarians and Venetians in the west

[urban ivy]

this is what happens when paradox adds content like that

poland can do their formable with a peaceful just complete a few focuses

[silent root]

this is what happens when paradox screws up

[urban ivy]

and ppl dont even look anymore at what territories they could possibly core

[silent root]

It isn't a formable

[urban ivy]

they just assume it s whatever the modern borders are + a lot others

[silent root]

and I didn't even press a decision

its like it cored itself

[safe wing]

how about when I have to fight 5 enemies

[urban ivy]

polish lithuanian commonwealth isnt a formable?

[safe wing]

because I forgot Sicily

[silent root]

yes but I didn't form that yet

[urban ivy]

wtf is this

[lethal ether]

🤦‍♂️

[silent root]

and I got cores on a modern province of poland

[urban ivy]

pretty sure ur focuses did

[safe wing]

Total War Medivial II with the Kingdoms Grand Campaign mod

old game from 2006

[silent root]

I didn't even declare war on USSR

[urban ivy]

ah that game u told me to get

[safe wing]

they have a mod that covers the Balkans in the 1400's Tsardoms

[urban ivy]

wait that s total war rome ii

nvm

[urban ivy]

this is better

actually

do they have vlad the impaler

[safe wing]

you can play as Wallachia and Moldova

[safe wing]

it takes place in that era

so yeah

[urban ivy]

i know that s why im asking

[urban ivy]

kickass

im putting it on the list of the games that i ll play when im free 😭

[urban ivy]

im sorry "congressional commonwealth"

or whatever the name tag is

[safe wing]

warning late game artillery is overpowered

its like cannons and stuff

[urban ivy]

yea for sieges

[urban ivy]

can u also play as england?

[fallen vigil]

HOW DO I WIN THIS WAR I WAS JUST TRYING TO FORM SOVIET ONION

[atomic grove]

defeat eurasiafrica

[stark coyote]

He doesn't even need to go down to africa tho

[atomic grove]

other than that its basically impossible to progress further

[atomic grove]

ik

[stark coyote]

Try to cap Europe first, you can hold Asia since its easier than pushing

Prepare something to invade UK in the meanwhile

For USA

Just pray

[atomic grove]

thats only if hes patient enough

[lone sail]

I HATE THIS I HATE THIS I HATE THIS

[fallen vigil]

mexico is my ally

[stark coyote]

Real

[fallen vigil]

they arent in the war i didnt call them yet

[atomic grove]

to wait like 10 years building a proper and strong fleet

[lone sail]

IM TIRED OF MY PUPPET DECLARING WAR ON THE ENTIRE WORLD

[fallen vigil]

puppets cant declare war tho

[atomic grove]

how do u even get ur puppet to declare war

[stark coyote]

Better, u can do collab goverments and invade the east coast from Mexico once ur ready

[lone sail]

with this focus tree they can

[atomic grove]

are they greece

[kind vale]

😂😂😂

[lone sail]

denmark

[atomic grove]

lmao

[lone sail]

ive had to annex my puppet while they where at war with the US and all the allies

[atomic grove]

they should add the fully independent checker on that

[lone sail]

this is made for puppet denmark

[atomic grove]

ik

thafs why

[safe wing]

in the base game and some mods yes

not in Tsardoms

as its reigon centered

England is the best faction for beginners BTW alongside France

[safe wing]

Why do you have Theodora as your pfp

[winter timber]

is this fr a vanilla mechanic? i've never played vanilla, basically spent 100% of my 190 hours on this game on a mod

How is extensive conscription only for fascists and communists

[safe wing]

IDK its dumb

[kind vale]

Any can get it if their at war

[winter timber]

oh

thanks lol

[safe wing]

Theodora in CIV 5 though 🥵

[winter timber]

i really like the painting

tbh

[safe wing]

fair

she was the girlboss of the century

[bold rune]

literally unplayable, they mispelled it

[upbeat whale]

@regal river gulp

[stark coyote]

What's mispelled?

[bold rune]

its spelled habsburg

theres no e in it

[kind vale]

Would you recommend using henschel as a template mio and Daimler Benz as production

[safe wing]

? I haven't played in a week

[stark coyote]

Im not getting the joke 💔

[safe wing]

my mind is focused on other things ATM

[kind vale]

The tank mios for Germany

[safe wing]

I would

[bold rune]

its not a joke the devs mispelled habsburg

[stark coyote]

Habsburg Spain?

[safe wing]

they did not Madrid is blocking the B which makes look like E

[stark coyote]

But I see it correctly 😭

[kind vale]

Alr

[bold rune]

oh im stupid

lmao

[stark coyote]

I thought u were joking 😭😭😭😭

[bold rune]

i just have awful sight ig

[upbeat whale]

is it common to join a game and be yelled slurs at for having a somewhat slow internet 💔

[stark coyote]

Sounds like MP experience

But no

[upbeat whale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1142900961153646622/1144498703835594832/uncaption.gif

[fallen vigil]

man this is just depressing

[winter timber]

damn i cant join the axis through the Turkish monarchist path

ehem (eval_effect add_to_faction) ehem

[safe wing]

You can

Just be at war against the same faction

And they will automatically invite you

[golden sail]

Cheap

[kind vale]

You can do holy roman with Wilhelm????

[sudden grotto]

I think if you follow the Imperial Path you can

[livid fractal]

My production menu isnt showing

[silk fern]

Just reload the game

[fallen vigil]

GUYS CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A LATE GAME NAVAL BOMBER DESIGN

[digital aurora]

New meta division guys! 20 light tank battalions 1 inf battalion, 10,000 artillery battalions and a Land Cruiser

Also for the Soviets is it better not to annex the Baltic states so your front line is smaller??

[sudden grotto]

You mean bigger?

Either way germany justifies on them

So you Will get a bigger front

Less defense on the baltics

[digital aurora]

Ah right

Well already annexed then so atleast that’s not an issue

[abstract canopy]

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

God has blessed my eyes

[abstract canopy]

I shouldve taken GB in 38

this is torture

I get a new dday ever day

[abstract canopy]

they wont stop coming

[digital aurora]

Is assume paratroopers are out of the question?

[abstract canopy]

lets just say I have no air force anymore

:)

[digital aurora]

Oh, I’m already in that boat around 1939 as the Soviets (I haven’t even gotten into a war yet)

[abstract canopy]

I'll try to naval invade but if im unlucky I will meet a gazillion american tanks

[digital aurora]

Just use one infantry divison with like 20 trillion AT battalions

[atomic grove]

goddamn

[digital aurora]

Damn nice pocket

[abstract canopy]

tank

[stark coyote]

Tonk

[atomic grove]

and i only got 2% extra war participation

i did get more than italy though

[digital aurora]

Is it bad I mainly use the stock Soviet mechanised 1936 template, with a few additions ofc like recon, engineers and one less tank battalion and one more motor infantry?

[atomic grove]

if you are still using light tanks when u go to war in like 1941 or 1940 then yes its bad

besides that

i highly recommend u make the template bigger

by that i mean 9 tank battallions and 9 mech battallions

[digital aurora]

I mainly switch it over to medium tanks, and have my motorised infantry division use light

[atomic grove]

wdym

[digital aurora]

I mean motorised rifle division not company

Because I use them for fast exploits and manuver when there is a gap in the enemy line, worked pretty well for the winter war

[abstract canopy]

the italy in my game came back from the dead for the third time now and each time it declares war on the allies and loses

[digital aurora]

One breakthrough near Leningrad and those units were able to cut off most of the supply hubs

[dire hornet]

Thank you china for selling a third of your civs https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/967841521133051934/1407873089894613053/image.png?ex=68a7af7d&is=68a65dfd&hm=7fc798ffb9517d4e9c56709ae33af859a1e35ef81e9559951ddd00c658345496&

[abstract canopy]

bless

[abstract canopy]

[atomic grove]

i finally had a competent italy in my turkey game

[west sequoia]

I saw this design in a switzerland guide

rate it

[atomic grove]

it depends on how much mils u have and how expensive it is in terms of both resources and production

[ebon wolf]

Can someone explain to me what are the space marines?

[west sequoia]

It's an infantry division with a single tank in it

you stack as much armor on the tank as you can so that all of your infantry can get the armored bonus with little cost

[trim pike]

But its not worth it

[tranquil lion]

Question, is there a good mod that overhauls ai division spamming, while keeping the game balanced and not nerfing the ai's difficulty?

[atomic grove]

its infantry + armored battalions

[atomic grove]

u might as well play tno

[tranquil lion]

tno?

[atomic grove]

if u hate the ai spamming divisions

[atomic grove]

the new order

[tranquil lion]

What does that add?

[atomic grove]

its an alt history mod

[tranquil lion]

Oh, that won't work. I'm making a custom mod pack.

[ebon wolf]

I watched a youtuber and he used this to defend against Soviet union, and attack with it when soviets became rly weak

He was playing as Polish-Lithuania commonwealth

[tranquil lion]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3547364933

Oh my god

It's beautiful

I literally just found this as one of the most popular mods on the workshop.

[tranquil lion]

?

[ebon wolf]

Nothing, just wanted to drop this really tuff image

[analog ivy]

did this encirclement with 0 supply romanian 18 width infantry 🥀

40 divs gone

900k casualties 🥀

what is hoi4 ai even about 😭

even the german ai is making big encirclements

I MIGHT ACTUALLY GET ALOT OF LAND

this isnt even funny anymore 😭

[atomic grove]

i dont think you understand how stupid the soviet ai is

[analog ivy]

honestly way stupider than i remember

i caused more casualties than germany

2 million

[opal nymph]

Soviet AI doing its best imitation of Soviet high command circa June 1941

[analog ivy]

i forgot to make a collaboration government im cooked

i might be rivalling germany's production and im romania lol

[analog ivy]

nicee

[winter timber]

I've been attacking them for like actual months

[analog ivy]

jeez

[winter timber]

wtf am i doing wrong

they literally dont die

[analog ivy]

looks like you have 4 troops

attacking 20

and they are infantry

[winter timber]

it's an intentional choice ngl

[analog ivy]

get more troops there

[winter timber]

im having some issues here and in the caucus mountains

[analog ivy]

finally

[echo barn]

ZA RODINA!!!!!!!!!

[limpid field]

They need to make a mod where you play as baby Hitler and you fight time travelers

[analog ivy]

NOOOOOOOO

THE BORDER GORE

Why

NVM THEY ARE DEAD

i messed up my game

i cant move my 80 ships out because i have a mod that removes neutral countries which includes turkey

[fallen vigil]

guys how do i use other countries airport?

like i got military access

but i cant use the airport

[lone sail]

how do i move capitals as commie china

[analog ivy]

well well well

no port to escape

[trim pike]

Sheep’s mod ig?

[tranquil lion]

Does that one change anything else?

[trim pike]

Uhh

A tiny bit

But not much

[rich nacelle]

You don’t unless you are n an alliance.

[echo barn]

ewwwwwwww

[toxic thorn]

Haii

[median gull]

So how long does it take/what do you need to do to take advantage of a conquered nation’s recruitable population?

[dusky burrow]

1946 and the UK stands alone?

[abstract canopy]

They had like 4 American tanks in there too

[toxic thorn]

Why does hoi4 run slower over time

[abstract canopy]

but their mainland was basically empty

[abstract canopy]

more troops means more things to calculate

there are mods that improve performance

[toxic thorn]

No it’s not an issue for me

But when I used to play on gaming laptop

In 1936 5 speed was like 1 year every 2 hours

[dusky burrow]

Aeugh

[abstract canopy]

Sounds horrible

[toxic thorn]

Very

It was lwk boring too

[abstract canopy]

I decided to play super slowly and it's honestly way more fun

[tough thorn]

Hi

Im new to the game

[kind vale]

Insane

[tough thorn]

Can anyone rate my stats as of 1938?

[kind vale]

Even though it on 5 speed it takes less then 30 minutes for a year to pass

[kind vale]

0% supply?

[tough thorn]

Im new

This is my first run

[kind vale]

For the love of God make some armored trains and trucks

[tough thorn]

I did

Wait

[kind vale]

Then how tf you got 0 supply

[brittle gazelle]

I think im too powerful of a germany now

i dont know what to do with how many factories I have

[kind vale]

Build rail way guns

[brittle gazelle]

and I ended up having 14k '44 fighters in spares. along with the 9k I have deployed

and I have 6k '44 heavy bombers

[kind vale]

Produce .005 land cruisers a year

[abstract canopy]

Khorne...

[brittle gazelle]

I have 606 military factories

[kind vale]

Rookie numbers

[tough thorn]

I have 600 pp

[tough thorn]

Is this ok for my first run?

73% stability

And 71% war support

[abstract canopy]

Why would you make 3 types of tanks

Sorry

5

[brittle gazelle]

light supplies for my remaining heaviy and medium and light divisions

otherwise both the modern SP and normal are in my modern division

[abstract canopy]

Convert them

[brittle gazelle]

cant, different chassis's

[kind vale]

No its not okay please fix your supply

[kind vale]

E-50?

[brittle gazelle]

modern 1945 chassis

its just the name it threw in, idc

[kind vale]

Huh

😭😭

[brittle gazelle]

they were a proposed line of german tanks

tried to be build around the same time as the maus

E-25 E-50 E-75 and E-100

the number is how many tons the vehicle would weigh

[kind vale]

😭

[brittle gazelle]

im just taking out my allies one by one now just to grow bigger and literally take over the entire goddamn world

[abstract canopy]

@brittle gazelle can you show ur division design for the modern tanks

[brittle gazelle]

decided to be fancy and exchange typical motorized arty for SP arty

36 width

tanks are 36 width, infantry is 24 width

[abstract canopy]

Oh lord

What are them stats?

[abstract canopy]

why would you use armored cars

[winter timber]

Steiner if you can hear us

[brittle gazelle]

idk i got bored, it provided better soft attack for MP

i have so much production it doesnt matter at this rate

[winter timber]

steiner please help

[abstract canopy]

Mechanized exists

[brittle gazelle]

with a tank mod i have its a PITA and theyre actually pretty expensive

my improved armored car is 6 compared to the basic mechanized being 8.4

[abstract canopy]

[brittle gazelle]

and has like 5x soft attack

while being 1/4 manpower (for the vehicle)

in terms of an actual division though, less defense, higher breakthrough, half the production cost, less than half the manpower, less than 10% soft attack deficit

although tons less HP or org but meh

idk

mech was more expensive production wise

man its 1947, and i got till '56, but this is a bit boring

I'm so overpowered and untouched its insane

while most of my airforce is sitting around in storage

[winter timber]

balanced

[agile ginkgo]

Y-y-y-yougoslavia?

[brittle gazelle]

The strat to compliance in resisting areas is to just break the resistance with a high ass level of enforcement and then just lower the enforcement to whatever it takes to keep the resistance down and build compliance then right?

[lone sail]

sino soviet split but it escalated

[remote quarry]

best to directly put it on the civilian oversight

resistance is not the important thing afterall

[primal timber]

steal outer manchuria from them in the conference

[sharp sierra]

chilean air is op

[analog ivy]

meta ethiopia game ig? idk how ai ethiopia is still alive

bro they are pushing back

welp there they go

[sharp sierra]

did this as long and drawn out as i could

[atomic grove]

how the hell do you even get her

[sharp sierra]

i thnk its just a normal path

[eternal palm]

As the Ottomans, take the decision to "Reform Succession Laws" after the Sultans death you get to choose between her and some other guy that doesnt matter

Shes pretty good

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732726938149322773/1309599122520805488/image.png?ex=68a77139&is=68a61fb9&hm=a1c412beb3446121dad91053b3930dbf66fa0443066213d189dbe363ef19a7c4&
This is actually so funny

its like 25% cheaper too

The only thing its worse at than the modern tank is piercing lmao

[analog ivy]

he looks like plastic lol

[winter timber]

restore the ottoman empire

[clear dagger]

life in plastic

its fantastic

[toxic lotus]

he mogs hitler thou

[analog ivy]

bro its historical poland what are you doing

[eternal palm]

When you do something slightly unhistorical the AI likes to do this for whatever reason

[analog ivy]

ohh

[eternal palm]

Seen this so many times when doing trotsky on historical

[analog ivy]

how do i get rid of the full employement spirit as france?

i have 0 manpower because of it

[eternal palm]

What Path?

[analog ivy]

france

OH

IM DUMB

[eternal palm]

Yep....

[analog ivy]

sorry i cant think straight

its the bottom one

[eternal palm]

Do the last focus

[analog ivy]

i remember now

[eternal palm]

Reading helps

[analog ivy]

im listening to music and messaging on 4 different servers while playing

so sorry if i suck at thinking correctly

[atomic grove]

ive never gotten the sultan to die

like ever

for some reason

in my previous ottoman runs

[analog ivy]

when does italy join the war? should i worry about them rn?

[atomic grove]

they will join the war when germany conquers the benelux

actually no

they will enter if germany makes solid progress into pushing into france

by that i mean theyve conquered nord pas de calais and picardy

[eternal palm]

Just keep the units you have there. They will join in time

[eternal palm]

Then you haven't played long enough

[atomic grove]

no like

past 1945

he is just immortal for some reason

[woven cypress]

I keep on getting like

these weird edits

for this game whats it called tfr its like ai edits for this game i dont have the game

but like

should i cop?

[trim pike]

Tfr is a very schizo mod

Extreme ideologies

[woven cypress]

yeah but like

its weird i get it for just like normal game i think

or other mods

Idk the history behind it but from the comments people have a weird obsession with it

is the game that good

[trim pike]

The game is good but the reason the comments like it is because it allows them to act out their ideal ideologies

[woven cypress]

like

idk what this is bruh😭

[woven cypress]

okay I might just drop the 50 bucks on it

[woven cypress]

i assume this would be good example?

[clear dagger]

Polska will hold

[urban ivy]

weak ah path

[arctic abyss]

I wonder if I'll ever understand this game

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-the-incredibles-bob-parr-surprise-shock-gif-3792641788366111492

[spring hedge]

what are the meta ships to spam

or whatever

[surreal pivot]

Light cruiser with light cruiser gun

And carrier

[spring hedge]

thats it?

[surreal pivot]

Battleship cheap too

2 guns or and AA if you can afford

[spring hedge]

ok

[surreal pivot]

That’s my go to idk about others

[scenic moon]

And torpedo destroyers too🔥

Cheapest hard attack

[surreal pivot]

Put torp on plane

[scenic moon]

??

[surreal pivot]

[spring hedge]

bombers

[surreal pivot]

Medium bomber

[scenic moon]

We call them navs bcz they carry torpedos yeah

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259190353718939700/1380102949946134630/image.png?ex=68a78348&is=68a631c8&hm=b5c4f3723ec23ffbc379ab9c3d422b2a18a0f8170c4e7712fa93270cb55c1113&

This

[surreal pivot]

Basically

[scenic moon]

Im doing this type things since you've told it

[eternal palm]

Good.

[scenic moon]

Its just a bit expensive

[eternal palm]

You dont need that many of them either

Keep like 5 mils on them

You can even make this day1 with e2

[trim pike]

Uhhh

U want to simulate russian victory?

Also buy when its on sale

And dlcs are important

[woven cypress]

nah

mostly just wanna see why people are so drawn to the game seems like something chill i could play

[woven cypress]

yeah im planning on doing that

[arctic abyss]

Question what are the must have DLCs for HOI4?

[eternal palm]

"Must have" is a strong wording, but having all the designers isnt terrible. So thats No Step Back, Man The Guns and By Blood Alone

[heavy vigil]

Arms against tyranny is good...

Makes no designer gameplay actually possible IC wise

And terrain wise

[eternal palm]

Yea all of them are good, but "must have" narrows it down

[heavy vigil]

Id get AAT first

Personally

[eternal palm]

MIO's without designers feels wrong kek

[eternal palm]

Wdym "IC wise"

[heavy vigil]

At least the tanks are better/cheaper, same for air

Tanks are 25 IC per piece without designer

[eternal palm]

Yes they are, doesnt make it "impossible"

[lethal ether]

is there any mod that lets you peace with the allies after capitulating france? it would be fun for roleplay

[heavy vigil]

Standardized unupgraded makes its 22

Thats a big change

[eternal palm]

That still does not make it impossible

[heavy vigil]

Well yeah but practically unfeasible

[eternal palm]

Unless youre some super optimised guy, but then you'd have all the dlcs anyhow

[eternal palm]

What 💀

You're just yapping

[heavy vigil]

?

Like no dlc tanks suck we can both agree on this

[eternal palm]

We played NSB for 2 years without MIOs we didnt complain about IC then

[heavy vigil]

Making them suck less, imo, is good

[eternal palm]

Hence I recommended nsb

AAT is nice, not necessary

[heavy vigil]

some people also just dont wanna design it makes no designing gameplay fun

Hot take

Cuz ive tried games with it

[arctic abyss]

Sorry I just want to know if there's any DLC like for example:
CK3 has Royal Courts and Tournament
Stellaris has Utopia

Like big editions that you can't play without

[eternal palm]

Yes, those 3 would be that

[primal timber]

japan just capitulated

[heavy vigil]

Not particularly theyre all of similar size

[primal timber]

they're

they're blue now

[atomic grove]

i did it

[heavy vigil]

But NSB, AAT, BBA, MtG are pretty good

You need MtG to block seazones off

[sudden grotto]

Huh, i thought Finland and hungary were in the decision, welp, nice job man 🔥

[atomic grove]

ive finally been liberated from the curse of no manpower

[arctic abyss]

Appreciated I just bought Man the Guns bc it was cheap on a legal third party market

[warped flint]

I reunified russia and when i declared on everyone, it didn't declare on these guys

and since im on ironman mode

that ruined my ruin

[arctic abyss]

$5 for smth that is usually $20 is solid

[warped flint]

which took hours of my sleep

[primal timber]

got bit of an encirclement

[atomic grove]

thats why you should just never play tno on ironman

[primal timber]

can i get another one

[arctic abyss]

So a follow-up question good DLCs

Ik some are specific bc some only add stuff to certain countries but still

[primal timber]

apparently yes

[heavy vigil]

wait until sale usually

[warped flint]

is it possible to turn off ironman mode?

[atomic grove]

no

whats done is done

[arctic abyss]

Oh yeah ofc

That's why I am asking to see if any sales are going on for any of them

[warped flint]

thissgksdg';fdkg'kglsfkd'gksdf'gkdf'g f'kgl'sd';adk'lsdrk osr k'sedkh

i am done

[heavy vigil]

No only events

All tigether

[warped flint]

i am deleting hoi4 again for the fifth time this month

[arctic abyss]

Like I got man the guns for $5.49 on Fanatical

[heavy vigil]

Starter pack exists

[eternal palm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/lmmu8r/how_to_disable_iron_man_mode_in_hoi4/ Maybe this helps

Oops too late

[arctic abyss]

This is why I don't touch ironman call me a coward

[trim pike]

There are easier ways lol

Also u can reironman a save

[eternal palm]

Or just dont lose :5head:

[arctic abyss]

Losing is in my DNA sadly

[eternal palm]

Unfortunate

[atomic grove]

who do u play

[arctic abyss]

No one yet bc idk where to start I got conflicting ideas of "beginner friendly"

[atomic grove]

wdym

i meant who are u losing as

[arctic abyss]

Oh it was just a general statement 💀

I know I like the ideas of HOI4 I just feel too dumb to understand them at times

[hushed chasm]

Don't buy the DLC, play until you get a feeling for the game.

[atomic grove]

thats basically impossible if u dont have dlcs

[eternal palm]

What?

[hushed chasm]

Why?

[eternal palm]

Get a grasp of the game, then buy dlcs to expand mechanics

thats not a bad approach

I did it that way

[atomic grove]

the dlcs are basically like half of the game for some reason

[eternal palm]

Cuz if you start off with all dlcs the chances are that you get overwhelmed and quit

Even base hoi4 has so many menus

The dlcs wont improve that one bit

[hushed chasm]

The DLC add ahistorical paths and designers that are added menus. There's tons of content to explore without DLC

[atomic grove]

indeed

however

i just dont really find it that way

i do get what you mean though

[arctic abyss]

Well it was $5 and I had some leftover money so bought Man the Guns but I will be sure to avoid buying DLCs until I get a feel for what I want problem is idk where to start

[atomic grove]

its just that i immediately got interested into hoi4 when i first saw it

[arctic abyss]

Some say Germany, Some say Canada or US, some try to bait me and say Poland

😭

[hushed chasm]

On sale it's fine to buy them

[atomic grove]

thats a no brainer

[heavy vigil]

Anyone you enjoy

[hushed chasm]

I'd pick up an Italy guide and start there, you will lose hard but learn all elements of the game

[heavy vigil]

Just play who you feel like you could lock in as

Ignore their power and just find out

[arctic abyss]

Well I'm not a WW2 enthusiast game just seems fun 😭

[primal timber]

ah yes

[heavy vigil]

Click nation on map then try to play

[primal timber]

takes half of the soviet union
-2.7% tension

[arctic abyss]

Ahh I love the cursed nature paradox grand strategies give you with the insane stuff the AI does

[iron orbit]

How do I play as Hitler?

[arctic abyss]

The random times in EU4 the ottomens never collapse for some reason:

[atomic grove]

watch a guide or play around with focus tree

[primal timber]

you can play as his schizophrenia

lowkey i was gonna "liberate" a bunch of countries over here for the TNO look but ill save that for later

[atomic grove]

liberating is basically useless

no benefit besides getting a temporary higher opinion and lower tension

[eternal palm]

but muh larp

:tantrum:

[atomic grove]

problem: you cant liberate oblasts

[primal timber]

we're quite big

[arctic abyss]

That's certainly an option I suppose....

[primal timber]

i just noticed all the reichskommisariats don't get any cores on the lands

[lethal ether]

is there any mod that lets you peace with the allies after capitulating france? it would be fun for roleplay

[primal timber]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3331870680&searchtext=peace+deal

from what i can tell you can just declare victory after capitulating france

[lethal ether]

alr ty ill check it out

[primal timber]

who cares about the civs

[arctic abyss]

I remember last time I checked in on this game graveyard of empires just came out and was a mess and I see it's still heavily hated yikes

[primal timber]

its chiang kai-shoever

[eternal palm]

GOE is not good. Waste of money, dont buy it 💀

[primal timber]

puppets just gave me

a bunch of free mils

[lethal ether]

what does it even do

im not experienced in dlcs 😢

[eternal palm]

Add Focuses for Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Raj

all of them arent good, theyre buggy, dont work correctly and the nations are irrelevant anyhow

[scenic moon]

😮‍💨

[eternal palm]

Raj is funny, but paying 20 bucks for a single tree is a hard sell

[scenic moon]

I agree

No mechanics no any new shit

Just 3 focuses

You can take from mods

[lethal ether]

20 BUCKS FOR 4 FOCUS TREES?

[eternal palm]

Yep.

[arctic abyss]

Wasn't gonna all paradox games have that absolute cheeks DLC I have noticed LOL sometimes multiple

[lethal ether]

THAT SHOULD BE LIKE $4 AT THE MOST

[eternal palm]

Hoi4 had a couple lol

[scenic moon]

Yeah tell me about it

[arctic abyss]

here is a good question actually what are all of the objectively bad DLCs

[scenic moon]

Just install mods

[lethal ether]

i agree

[eternal palm]

DoD, TfV, ToA althought that one is better than people remember and GoE

[lethal ether]

though there are a few must have dlcs

[arctic abyss]

Like for CK3 it is Friend or Foe

[lethal ether]

like man the guns and no step back

maybe gotterdamerung too

[eternal palm]

Nah not really

[arctic abyss]

DoD is now in base game

[eternal palm]

I know

Good riddance

I paid for that shit

[scenic moon]

What if you cra-

[arctic abyss]

Is it at least a okay edition to the base xD?

[scenic moon]

What does it add

[eternal palm]

The focus trees are so bad that they ought to be base game from the start

since pdx basically sells you reworks now

I am glad that they did not do that with the soviet tree lmao

[lethal ether]

im guessing its not a problem if its for an older version of the game.. right?

[eternal palm]

If its before 1.12 then yeah

if not then no

[arctic abyss]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2114760/Crusader_Kings_III_Friends__Foes/

Steam

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Over one hundred unique new experiences of medieval larger-than-life drama wait…

Price

$4.99

Recommendations

1606

▶ Play video

I don't have it so idk

XD

[eternal palm]

Not useful

I bought it

[arctic abyss]

just know it is considered the worst CK3 DLC

[eternal palm]

I want my money back

[lethal ether]

does paradox make JUST strategy games?

[arctic abyss]

ye

[eternal palm]

They made City Skylines

[arctic abyss]

they publish other games though

[eternal palm]

dunno if that is strategy lol

[eternal palm]

So they dont lol

[arctic abyss]

City skylines they are publisher

make my brain assumed developer

[eternal palm]

Oh right, thats a thing

Ok so pdx itself only develops strategy games

But they publish more than that

[arctic abyss]

they publish a crap ton of games

probs most well known for publishing Prison Architect or City Skylines

[neat kayak]

YOOO BALANCE OF POWER FOR COMMIE CHINA LETS GOOOOO

The new China looks disgusting

[hollow silo]

uh

[ancient flower]

nice, add mongol and tuva focus trees

[daring tundra]

It is more accurate

[neat kayak]

Yeah

I hope it will be fun

Not like India....

I am sniping my eyes on Siam

[arctic abyss]

O yeah I heard the soviet used to be depression same with Germany and US (?)

[eternal palm]

What?

[arctic abyss]

And on the bright 2/3 of the DLC you named for worst are base game content now!

[arctic abyss]

Like before reworks

[golden stag]

Chinese rework 🔥🔥🔥

[crystal marsh]

HOLY SHIT

[eternal palm]

Oh yea the tree was terrible

Oh my god it sucked

[deft mulch]

ChHINA REWORK???

[crystal marsh]

quite possibly the biggest map change in all hoi updates

[eternal palm]

210 day focus for purge 😠

[golden stag]

This is also quite historically accurate

[deft mulch]

I’ve been praying for this

[eternal palm]

mfw stolen from rt56

[crystal marsh]

we all have

[austere heron]

gulp

[deft mulch]

They should add the weird Mongolian border

pre 1945

[arctic abyss]

PCs may cry a bit however this is nothing compared to the tears of PCs running CK3 after the Asia expansion dlc

[golden stag]

RT only adds Khotan I think

[crystal marsh]

❌ correct geopolitical state at the time
✅ rt56 ripoff

[eternal palm]

The Joke:

[arctic abyss]

what is rt56

[eternal palm]

Dont gotta know

mod sucks anyhow

Dont play it

[eternal palm]

Vanilla is the only thing you'll ever need

[crystal marsh]

rice trade 56'

[toxic lotus]

My god

[arctic abyss]

is that the popular one that does big overhauls of focus trees and stuff?

[crystal marsh]

a mod based in communist china post revolution

[golden stag]

Meh mod

[deft mulch]

This Mongolian border

[golden stag]

Play EAW instead

[eternal palm]

Yea and does a terrible job at balancing

[deft mulch]

They should just add it as a state or something

[dreamy stump]

biggest naval battle i've seen in my life

[arctic abyss]

What is EAW?

[eternal palm]

Holy Mother of Jesus

Equestria at war

My little pony mod

Yes. Really.

[deft mulch]

Christ alive

[golden stag]

Equestria at war the best mod ever

[deft mulch]

143 battleships

[golden stag]

Very based mod

[deft mulch]

wtf is Italy doing

[eternal palm]

Funny 1k hp mech

Rounds damage to 0

[dreamy stump]

naval has never been so entertaining

[arctic abyss]

Wonder if there is any mods that do a good job at balancing tbh xD

[golden stag]

Even tho it's MLP it's actually pretty good

[golden stag]

Sheep

[arctic abyss]

that goes for any grand strategy game btw

[golden stag]

idk abt the others but sheep for hoi4

Vanilla tho

[eternal palm]

Historical mp mods do a pretty good job at it

[deft mulch]

ugh I can’t wait for China rework

this will be so good

[eternal palm]

Sheep mod is a good one

[deft mulch]

Actually good generals for once

[eternal palm]

Nah chinese generals are goated cuz you can grind them

[deft mulch]

And cliques may just become really good

li zongren world conquest

[golden stag]

He prolly starts as a Chinese puppet now

[neat kayak]

This dlc is gonna be a second no step back

In terms of quality

Excluding latvia

[vestal grove]

Faction mechanics are revolutionary for the game

[eternal palm]

Dont get your hopes up. THey still managed to make goe

[vestal grove]

It's a country pack, not dlc

[eternal palm]

If it comes any sooner than summer of next year, its gonna be shit

[vestal grove]

It doesn't count

[eternal palm]

same shit you know what I meant

also goe was also a content pack?

[arctic abyss]

any sooner?

[eternal palm]

Yea

[neat kayak]

That dlc really needs a revamp

[eternal palm]

They made 1 content pack and 1 dlc 5 months apart from each other. And the content pack was hot ass

[deft mulch]

Good

I can absorb him as a general as China then

[neat kayak]

Gotterdammerung is peak

[eternal palm]

If they just had more time to develop GOe it wouldnt have been so shit

[neat kayak]

Austria my half love

[eternal palm]

BLoat 100000

[arctic abyss]

funny how 2/4 of the bad DLCs you named are country packs

[eternal palm]

Not fun

[deft mulch]

grass is green

[eternal palm]

Yea they borked those.

[deft mulch]

obviously it’s good

[eternal palm]

Though I like Toa

Toa wasnt as terrible as people say

its just the bloat that annoys me

[spring hedge]

man you can really tell what countries have old focus trees

[eternal palm]

the trees are pretty good

[arctic abyss]

wdym by bloat

[heavy vigil]

#hearts-of-iron-news post

[neat kayak]

Projects suck and raid are useless but the rest is good

[eternal palm]

How op nations can get

[neat kayak]

Toa is good

[vestal grove]

It is not at all nalanced

[arctic abyss]

ahhh

[vestal grove]

Balanced*

[neat kayak]

Especially Chile

[eternal palm]

That is my only gripe with it

[neat kayak]

A good challenge

And a lot of fun

[vestal grove]

Country packs could be peak too if they added a bit of content

[eternal palm]

Eh Chile is insane if u play communist

[eternal palm]

.....They do that?

[neat kayak]

Yep

[eternal palm]

Thats all they do?

Add content

[golden stag]

Also the blueshirts aren't fascist i don't think

[vestal grove]

Besides focus trees

[eternal palm]

What other is there to content lol

[golden stag]

Then it's wouldn't be a country pack

[neat kayak]

But my fav one is def the mapuche path

[eternal palm]

If mapuche wasnt locked to 3 research slots it would be good

But its not

[golden stag]

Crazily overpowered

[dreamy stump]

do you guys have any idea on how i can fix this supply hell?

[eternal palm]

Why lock the new countries to 3-4 slots

[neat kayak]

Especially after you beat the US

[golden stag]

Research slots should be reworked

[neat kayak]

That sucks

[eternal palm]

why not give them 5 like idk every other country

[eternal palm]

Get the hell out of there

[neat kayak]

South America should have 5 research slots

[eternal palm]

No point fighting there

Getting convoys

not getting raided

I see the red line

[dreamy stump]

yeah i lost like 500 convoy everyday

[neat kayak]

Another country that i love but people throw rocks at is Norway

[eternal palm]

Lmao what

[sudden grotto]

AW hell nah...commie china having a balance of Power Is cruel

[golden stag]

I mean it's historically accurate

[vestal grove]

It's gonna be hard now

[eternal palm]

We're so back
Its so over

[neat kayak]

The community wanted bop back again

[eternal palm]

The eternal cycle continues

[golden stag]

I was surprised they didn't make it before

[neat kayak]

Now they don't

[deft mulch]

HELL YEAH MORE COMMIE CHINA DEBUFFS

LETS GOOOO

[golden stag]

a bop in commie china will actually be accurate believe it or not

[deft mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spellwizard-gif-18051716

[neat kayak]

Having bop back is good

[golden stag]

Probably will get rid of the initial debuffs

[dreamy stump]

i'm practically fighting the whole world

[neat kayak]

Last time it was in aat

[spring hedge]

if you wanna get historical then every leftist country gets one

[arctic abyss]

what did you do

[sudden grotto]

Why so excited 😭 🙏

[golden stag]

that's true

[sudden grotto]

The flag Is cool thi

[deft mulch]

sent spiders to everyone

[arctic abyss]

sarcasm

[dreamy stump]

creating my own faction, leaving te allies was an error

[deft mulch]

I love mauling up commie china as nationalist China

[spring hedge]

bro lock IN

[neat kayak]

A thing that I don't want is coal

[arctic abyss]

valid reason to start a war tbh

[neat kayak]

This will nerf war economy

[vestal grove]

What is this kaiserredux world

[dreamy stump]

i'm winning in naval at least

[vestal grove]

There should be reasons to not go there... it's just a buff right now

[golden stag]

Why does Zhang Wentian look like that 😭

There are like 300 pics of him of and you choose THIS ONE? 😭

[neat kayak]

But what i have my eyes on

[spring hedge]

it will actually be cool, also kinda prevents infinite snowballing

[neat kayak]

Is Siam

[dreamy stump]

combats like this one

[sudden grotto]

[golden stag]

Btw the 1/2 in 28 1/2 Bolsheviks is Xu Yixin

The only known person in 28 1/2

[spring hedge]

holy moly bro

[dreamy stump]

modern carrier and battleship combo is OP

[deft mulch]

Australian unibomber

[deft mulch]

battlecruisers are better

[magic tinsel]

so japan rework practically confirmed?

[dreamy stump]

okay, i'll try one navy

[neat kayak]

Yes

[magic tinsel]

what the hell

[neat kayak]

Will it be as good as aat , nsb or gtg

We shall see

[dreamy stump]

like this is fine or i go full guns?

[neat kayak]

And yes I still see aat as the best dlc

[deft mulch]

What the hell is this

That’s not a battlecruiser

[eternal palm]

This is a normal cruiser, second if u wanna make a spotting cruiser, thats fine but not like this 💀

[dreamy stump]

is a cruiser has not made it to battle yet XD

[eternal palm]

Battle cruisers are bbs that use a certain type of armor

[golden stag]

Hand down it is

Fun paths, international market

[eternal palm]

That said bcs are kinda ass. The point of battleships is armor. So I'd recommend you do shbb and be done

[neat kayak]

Norway is the shadow of the dlc but in my top 3 favorites 🔥

Alongside Chile and Austria

[deft mulch]

That’s a battlecruiser

[eternal palm]

he just cant appreciate the grandeur of the soviet focus tree 😔

[deft mulch]

and this is my light cruiser design

[eternal palm]

Ew what is this? Upgrade the main gun what

[eternal palm]

Why does it have depth charges?

[neat kayak]

I like playing minor countries over majors

[dreamy stump]

ohhhhh, now i know what you mean

[deft mulch]

why not

[eternal palm]

Its not doing anything

[heavy vigil]

It already was 😭

[deft mulch]

it is tho…

[eternal palm]

What is it doing

Tell me

[deft mulch]

there wouldn’t be an option for depth charges if it didn’t do shit

[eternal palm]

1 depth charge aint gonna kill subs

[deft mulch]

Lmao

[deft mulch]

you’d be surprised

[eternal palm]

I'm asking you what it does in this design

[neat kayak]

Does someone have the chart with the dev corners dates?

For this dlc

[eternal palm]

You could just either make seperate dds, make navs

[deft mulch]

I don’t usually make dds

And if I do they’re roaxhes

[eternal palm]

But slapping 1 depth charge on a cruiser thats made to fight surface doesnt make much sense

[heavy vigil]

It kills 1936 subs if youre lucky

[eternal palm]

And navs?

[heavy vigil]

Still way worse than naval bombers

[dreamy stump]

and what do you think about this super heavy ship?

[deft mulch]

Obviously

[eternal palm]

Expensive.

[dreamy stump]

little to much?

[deft mulch]

these are the best for sinking shit

[eternal palm]

Yea

[cedar lance]

i wanna build SUPER CARRIERS

[deft mulch]

I am going to blow my brains out

[cedar lance]

as ESTONIA

[eternal palm]

I only use 1 main gun and fill the top row all with aa and dual purpose

[neat kayak]

Why are people so stressed out about navy

When you can steal the enemy one

[heavy vigil]

Youre gonna get convoy raided to death by a half decent player if you use ships to escort convoys fyi

[neat kayak]

And call it a day

[deft mulch]

also it’s enough, I usually build super heavies if I want stronger firepower

[dreamy stump]

okay

[deft mulch]

this does just fine

[deft mulch]

I don’t play mp so

idc

it’s completely different on mp

[heavy vigil]

Not rlly

Still works the same

[dreamy stump]

no i need you to tell me what i'm doing wrong, dont blow it just yet, you can later

[deft mulch]

why does it have battlecruiser armor

[cedar lance]

im gonna build CVs carriers and SUPER CARRIERS as ESTONIA

[urban ivy]

1 main battery at the bottom slot. top slots: 2 heavy batteries and full anti air

[deft mulch]

unless I don’t remember how super heavy armor looked

[urban ivy]

also use super heavy battleship armor in case u dont

[cedar lance]

aswell as ALL other ships crafts and vessels

to destroy the worlds convoys

so they cannot send reinforcments

[neat kayak]

How can you survive as non aligned Estonia or latvia

Ok Estonia is doable

But latvia

You don't have mp to fulfill your army

Or bonuses to mp

[urban ivy]

u form kingdom of livonia

[cedar lance]

i use Console commands thats how i survive and win

[neat kayak]

That's Lithuania

[neat kayak]

2023 me core

[neat kayak]

Where i beated both the Germans and Soviets as chair Poland

[deft mulch]

this is okay I think

should he

[dreamy stump]

so this should be the OP setup?

[deft mulch]

Upgrade AA tho

to level 3

I didn’t donit

[cedar lance]

im gonna DESTROY all world armies navies and airforces As ESTONIA

[neat kayak]

Play without cheats

[deft mulch]

Now you have barely any firepower

[dreamy stump]

dang it

[woeful urchin]

hello

new one here

[deft mulch]

this is better just make the AA level 3

[deft mulch]

welcome to the institute of the mentally disabled

[woeful urchin]

im addicted to history stuff and alt history

so yeah

[dreamy stump]

now?

[woeful urchin]

kinda insane in the head

[deft mulch]

yes this is good

very expensive but good

[eternal palm]

Before was better

[dreamy stump]

BRUH

[eternal palm]

YOu dont need the 2 extra heavy batteries

you just increased your cost by 6k for very little

[deft mulch]

what’s the point of building a super heavy then

[eternal palm]

Armor and heavy piercing

If u do it right, it cannot be pierced

[deft mulch]

• you reallt don’t need that much AA if you have a carrier nearby

[eternal palm]

Also you wanna get these out in less than 5 years so making it cheaper is useful

[dreamy stump]

well i need something to fight the entire world so yoy guys knows what is better?

[eternal palm]

Nah you do still. It'll shred any kind of land based aircraft

[deft mulch]

Yeah and this design still has good AA

[eternal palm]

This is basically perfect

[deft mulch]

33.8 vs 44.8

[eternal palm]

My point was that he doesnt need that much heavy attack, not that he needed more aa

[deft mulch]

heavy attack sinks ships

[eternal palm]

21k IC is ridicoulus

[eternal palm]

You dont say

[dreamy stump]

pass me te gun now i'm the one blowing my head out

[deft mulch]

okay

[mystic sorrel]

im gonna attempt germany historical

[deft mulch]

You’d shit yourself if you saw how expensive my navy usually is

[eternal palm]

Probably

Dont really give a shit though

If u wanna wait that long for a navy, thats fine

it technically still has better stats

So 🤷‍♂️

[mystic sorrel]

should i play regular mode or soem easier

[eternal palm]

REgular

[deft mulch]

high price = high quality

[eternal palm]

riiiiight

[mystic sorrel]

and die to luxembourg again

[deft mulch]

most of the time

[deft mulch]

how terrible are you

[urban ivy]

latvia can also do it

[deft mulch]

dying to poland sure but luxembourg

dude

[eternal palm]

That is wrong most of the time. In hoi4 it is very possible to increase the cost of something without making it any better

[neat kayak]

Huh?