hoi4-general

[neat kayak]

?

[grizzled yarrow]

Well uhhh

[neat kayak]

first of all

port guarding is a must

the soviets always nav invade

[grizzled yarrow]

I tried pumping out a good air force to fight the soviets

[neat kayak]

anti air

[grizzled yarrow]

But i couldnt get enough air force

Then i did a diff strat

[neat kayak]

don't try to outproduce them

it's the worst you can do

[frozen dawn]

havent played hoi4 in so long who should i play

[grizzled yarrow]

Got aa arti anti tank and some other stuff to produce space marines

I saw someone use brick tanks for armor

[neat kayak]

Chile

[grizzled yarrow]

Its like a bit more expensive than arti

[neat kayak]

good challenge , nice rewards and fun

[grizzled yarrow]

4.30

[neat kayak]

that's what i always do

medium aa tanks

[hybrid solstice]

quick question, do doctrine discounts also apply to the corresponding special forces doctrines using the same points, or is it only to the normal doctrines?

[grizzled yarrow]

Like the run i did here i managed to hold of the soviets but not push back

The problem was

Well

My upgrades were low

Since i dint have the production capacity to replace the old guns

And i couldnt pump out enough tanks

[neat kayak]

we're you fighting the germans too?

[grizzled yarrow]

No

I gave up danzing

They just joined the wat

[neat kayak]

what went wrong then?

[grizzled yarrow]

War

[neat kayak]

how did they broke through

[grizzled yarrow]

Well i tried to push the soviets

[neat kayak]

the soviets are weak till 1942 or 1943

till they do lessons of war

[grizzled yarrow]

Supply was also kinda bad and yeah

[neat kayak]

and fully fix the army

[grizzled yarrow]

I never really bothered figthing the soviets

I used to play france quite a bit

[neat kayak]

do collab gov

[grizzled yarrow]

Would crush germany 9/10 times

But i never managed to really beat the soviet union on my own

[neat kayak]

iraq stays on high ground

cuz it can form arabia

[fallen vigil]

guys is this a good template?

[hybrid solstice]

add one more arty

and more support companies

such as logistics, AA, engineers etc.

[neat kayak]

-1 one infantry battalion and you're good

[kind vale]

Add a super heavy tank

[fallen vigil]

why?

[neat kayak]

15 width is extremely versatile

and with good support it can do a lot

[kind vale]

24width is better

[neat kayak]

well yeah

but for a country like paraguay

[kind vale]

Oh nvm

[sharp sierra]

its all the same shit

[neat kayak]

he is playing paraguay

[kind vale]

I didn't see what they were

[kind vale]

No its not

[neat kayak]

which works well with 15w

[sharp sierra]

you suck at the game combat width isnt this important

[long heron]

would anybody be interested joining a roleplay community that you can roleplay as a country or citizen or govement figure if so privately dm

[lone sail]

should i declare war on them and cause ww3?

[clear dagger]

There can only be one.

[serene inlet]

hey i cant seem to find the weapons i used on that tank design anymore

like idk theyre just not there

[sharp sierra]

not enough research mabye

what weapons

[serene inlet]

this

[sudden thistle]

what weapon

medium howitzer 1?

[serene inlet]

yea

[sudden thistle]

thats arty tech 2

[sharp sierra]

yea

[sudden thistle]

1939 arty

[serene inlet]

oh

dang okay its fine

[fallen vigil]

yall think i got this

[sharp sierra]

yea paraguay gets realy good defense stats and all that

[torn pilot]

what do you guys think what's the most op minor nation? i think it's hungary with otto von habsburg path

[sudden grotto]

Bhutan Is the strongest.

[stark coyote]

Cav spam OP @rose siren

[torn pilot]

i think i never played that. mainly because i don't even know where it is lol

[sudden thistle]

now what are in those 70 divs

[stark coyote]

1 batallion

[sudden thistle]

MY ENTER KEY IS BROKEN

same for shift, i need to press it a dozen times for it to work

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-moskau-slav-russian-russia-gif-18061388680465120617

[rose siren]

That name 😂😂😂

[stark coyote]

Yeah, Paradox didn't even take any effort for it

[rose siren]

Lmao fr fr

[stark coyote]

They are doing a lot of nav invasions

Maybe Ill get a good chunk now in peace deal

60 days for it 🔥🔥🔥

[quasi wharf]

was to late to take sweden and prepare for the inevitable funny mustache
Bittersteel ?

[rose siren]

Yes yes yes!!!

[gilded vessel]

oh my god there is so much green

[stark coyote]

I think I got pretty little dawg

[azure crescent]

everything but letting me get the achievement i took over all of europe just to not get my silly achievement cuz i messed it up in 1940

[rose siren]

Alf landon typing 😭😭

[gilded vessel]

princerely break away state

[stark coyote]

Not enough

[rose siren]

😭😭😭😭😭

[stark coyote]

Now we lookikg better

Looking

Better than the first time ngl

[rose siren]

Yes lmao

Now the world conquest lmao

[stark coyote]

First time got only 2 extra states after the world and almost got a World Conquest if I choosed to keep playing

Now is even easier

[rose siren]

Lets go 🤩🤩🤩

[flat barn]

what is bro defending from

[lone sail]

the allies

[flat barn]

stopbuiilding forts

just do paratroopers

and even if u invade them normally

u wont be pushed back

[lone sail]

the forts are incase of a surprise attack

[flat barn]

also naval invasion is just a no go

they wont

[lone sail]

why

[lone sail]

they have a wargoal

[flat barn]

british navy french navy dutch navy vs german navy

who do u think is winning

[flat barn]

who

[flat barn]

fair enough then

tbh

[lone sail]

britain

[flat barn]

is anyone else in the faction with britain

[lone sail]

france

benelux

[flat barn]

ok fair enough my bad

invest into paratroopers and make transport planes

naval invading is dead from the start

[lone sail]

why

ive naval invaded britain before

its pretty easy

[flat barn]

i have my doubts on this

[lone sail]

somtimes is impossible

[flat barn]

not on your prior experience but

how its going to go

[lone sail]

but usually easy

[flat barn]

sealioning before france is crazy

super based tho

also did u invade the ussr?

[sharp sierra]

its probably easier before 1939

[flat barn]

true

since they have a small army and its more spread

[flat barn]

i always struggle at the start of my germany ww2 games

they have a massive air buff

but once my 30 mils pump out fighters its all good

[lone sail]

💀

its 1948

[flat barn]

damn

[lone sail]

mass assault is goated

[flat barn]

reichkommisariats as kaiser

[flat barn]

i completely misread your situation and game

since its 1948

and britain has had like no wars

and france

it could be a massive stalemate

[lone sail]

reichspakt+ mod

i can schliefin the french

[flat barn]

hows ur ai

air

[lone sail]

i have 120 divisions guarding the border and i will use 120 other ones to attack benelux region

while i invade britain

[lethal ether]

what do you genuinely do after defeating uk, france, ussr and usa as germany?

[lone sail]

what could go wrong

[lone sail]

i dont think i can beat america

[flat barn]

hold a party in berlin

trust me late game america is old stuff

america is easy to kill

if you win the naval war ( just make light cruisers and start fighting the allied navy in 1945 )

[lethal ether]

invade them from canada

[flat barn]

its 1948

and japans dead

i think usa is already in the allies

[lone sail]

oh yeah

[lone sail]

they left somehow

[lethal ether]

how did you invade poland without france and uk throwing a temper tantrum

[lone sail]

me and ussr did it

[flat barn]

cute

[lone sail]

also imperial germany path works different

[lethal ether]

are you playing vanilla?

[lone sail]

no

[flat barn]

killing czechs gives britain an option to guarantee poland

[lone sail]

reichspakt+

[lethal ether]

what mod?

ah

[flat barn]

war goals on poland dont

[lone sail]

puppet mod

[lone sail]

i didnt

i allied them

then peacefully subjigated

[flat barn]

yeah i know im just saying

basically

bluck doesnt know how allies wouldnt defend poland

but when you do fate of czechoslovakia

[lone sail]

im imperial

[flat barn]

it gives britain a choice to guarantee poland

[lone sail]

not nazi

[flat barn]

yes man

i know

im just explaining why the allies didnt get involved over poland

😭

[lethal ether]

in this playthrough i havent even fully killed the ussr and i didnt even start with the usa and im already feeling kinda bored

i used reichkommisariats+ peace event thingy with the ussr

[flat barn]

vichy france in morroco lol

also why did u betray italy 🙁

[lone sail]

establish bohem and mahren reichskommissariat

and slovakia

also burgundy

[lethal ether]

italy created its own faction and after yugoslavia declared on me for invading the czechs i annexed them and italy demanded some god knows what territory

[lethal ether]

i integrated them already lol

[flat barn]

fair enough

[lethal ether]

i have cores on them

[lone sail]

but borders look better without

[lethal ether]

c o r e s

[lone sail]

tno germany has the best border

[lone sail]

ik

[lethal ether]

i have a core on crimea

[flat barn]

i wish i was a pole living in berlin in the tno universe

[lethal ether]

idk why

[lone sail]

but bad borders

[lethal ether]

genuinely how did i get this

what

[lethal ether]

erm do you mean germania

[lone sail]

im suffering the side effects of only using mass assault

[brittle gazelle]

early 1944 and I (germany) still beat the US in number of factories

[lone sail]

can i win the war in afrika?

[sudden grotto]

Imagine coring Lodz but not alsace 💔

Hollon, litzmannstadt, mb

[lethal ether]

🥀

[sudden grotto]

I can hear TNO enjoyers.

[lethal ether]

huh

[heavy shell]

what the hell happened here

[solid dirge]

india wanted to cosplay the balkans

[lone sail]

my puppets weigh down my score

[gilded vessel]

i love how the soviets just wont declare on finland since they know they are losing a war since they i have taken moscow and leningrad

[gilded vessel]

shattered british raj

[kind vale]

Wilhelm II is the best Wilhelm

[lone sail]

fax

[kind vale]

It's sad that he dies

[lone sail]

i use mods that make him immortal

[kind vale]

Give me the mod

[rose siren]

My pookie

[uncut pollen]

Than why dosent stalin die in 1953?

[kind vale]

Lol

[kind vale]

He's immortal

[kind vale]

Thank you

Now the kaiser will rule the world

[uncut pollen]

Like he deserved

[kind vale]

Exactly

[uncut pollen]

Like a boss

[kind vale]

Gonna revive Wilhelm II irl and restore Germany to glory

[uncut pollen]

But i dont know if poland and the eu will like that

[burnt delta]

?????????????????

[uncut pollen]

And nato

[burnt delta]

what does this mean

[kind vale]

They don't have a choice(God is in support of my plan)

[sudden grotto]

The russian revoltion started, good luck with the workers

[burnt delta]

what

[kind vale]

Your workers hate you

[uncut pollen]

God will maybe let it happen

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ленин-ссср-советский-союз-диктатор-ругается-lenin-dictator-ussr-gif-7684832756872179348

[burnt delta]

I've done this path countless times and I dont quite remember it being this way

[uncut pollen]

Idk im not an priester

[kind vale]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[gilded vessel]

1 coup a day keeps the soviets away

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiser-wilhelm-kawaii-teruboz-gif-13107628486786161527

[burnt delta]

OH NOW I GET IT

NOW I GET IT

[flat barn]

meanwhile my timeline where italy and germany come into conflict

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-mr-awesome-mod-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-polish-dixie-republic-gif-17105694987418177188

[wary wigeon]

Recommend me a mod

[flat barn]

player lead peace conferences

[sharp sierra]

astizels map mod

[wary wigeon]

Ok

What about a mod to make the game faster

[wary wigeon]

Thank you

[sharp sierra]

what about a mod to make the game slower

[wary wigeon]

Millennium dawn

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-1107972158425297474

[wary wigeon]

Come on

I already have one

[spring hedge]

whats the method to kill britain before they become a huge nuisance

[sudden grotto]

/annex_uk

[opal nymph]

Use air superiority to do sea lion across the channel

And bomb the crap out of any subs that try to raid all your supply

[wary wigeon]

Try raid it from the center right

[sudden grotto]

Go for the North Sea route

[wary wigeon]

Sweep it in 1939

[sharp sierra]

if i have no planes to contest air with im invading scotland and entrenching in the mountains

thats my way

and if ur a little nation its a good way to get 50% of warscore over germany

[spring hedge]

alright

should i just put all my production into fighters and naval bombers

[opal nymph]

CAS bombs ships and troops

NAVs only bomb ships

[timber cypress]

is ts peak 🥹 ✌️

[opal nymph]

CAS is just weaker at bombing ships

[opal nymph]

My head hurt after looking at that

[timber cypress]

every single division attack one city and loosing is the new meta strat

[opal nymph]

It's clearly effective

[lost quest]

tf is the 3rd division’s flag

[timber cypress]

pink russia

my freind made a puppet in my country and i was losing agaisnt the allies so i just sent evey division to attack it

[lost quest]

why is it pink

[timber cypress]

femboy mod

[lost quest]

link?

[timber cypress]

here or dms?

ill just dm it

[sharp sierra]

here

[timber cypress]

okay

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2644413282

[lost quest]

thx :3

[tiny blaze]

how to give marines crayons

[lapis snow]

on a stick, or you'll lose fingers

[west sequoia]

What should I put in a defensive division?

8 infantry, engineering company, support AA, support arty?

[lapis snow]

yesh

[maiden halo]

italy ai pisses me off

[west sequoia]

what do you guys think about cavalry in tank divisions

[arctic plaza]

rate this encirclement

[west sequoia]

5/10. Good number of troops but not insane

also reinforce your damn tanks

[arctic plaza]

i got no mp

heres the total amount of troops btw

[stark coyote]

How are u low on mp as Germany?

[flat barn]

battle planning

[stark coyote]

Fair enough

I hate battleplans, but I love battleplans

[lapis snow]

if used correctly you only need a tiny bit of micro and you can get stuff like this in the late game

[stark coyote]

You only need to micro tbh

Battleplans are great just for bonuses 🥵🥵🥵

[lapis snow]

yup, planning my beloved

[stark coyote]

I just battleplanned all the way to El Cairo as Mughals last time tho

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[fallen vigil]

lowkey aint that much

[flat barn]

Who has the best infantry in hoi4?

[lethal ether]

black friday

[trail pasture]

L take

[ruby flame]

dopamine

(I have 2 wings vs their 8)

"My Air Marshal told me Austrian aces keep eating his fighters"

[crude crane]

hello

[deep relic]

Hi im new

[deep relic]

Arabic ?

[crude crane]

yeah

[deep relic]

From where

Im from iraq

You can guess that from my name

Are you still here ?

[crude crane]

egypt

[sudden grotto]

aint much but its honest work

[deep relic]

يسطا how are you doing

[crude crane]

الحمدلله

[deep relic]

اني من العراق اكدر اعلمك اشون تلعب

انت ما عندك اي dlc صح لانو اذا عندك مراح اكدر اعلمك عليهن

[serene inlet]

whats a good motorized infantry division?

tbh i only make infantry and its terribleto make encirclements

[snow rain]

none

motorised is expensive inf that uses fuel

[serene inlet]

its not expensive?

making 5 would be nice

[snow rain]

just use cav or camels if you want speed

[snow rain]

3x the cost of an inf div

[serene inlet]

cav is slow lmao

[snow rain]

not counting fuel and resources

[deep relic]

What i do is just put some motorized artillery with them

[snow rain]

noooo
that's even worse

[deep relic]

Then what to do

[serene inlet]

idk

i dont have tanks yet and even then tanks are slow

if i break the line and want to make a quick encirclement motorized infantry sounds ideal

[deep relic]

Tanks are very expensive

Yeas they do kinda of the exact same

[serene inlet]

how good is this

its cheap

width is a little high

[deep relic]

I dont know about horses because i have never seen anyone play with them so i guess that they are bad

Anyway if you are on very low budget just use light tank with motorized thats the best

Anyway that kinda of depend on the resources that you have

[snow rain]

good enough for grind
cav recon is useless though, you'll need support AA
also, if you are gonna use flame tanks always use medium flame tanks (they give more buffs) except for paras

[snow rain]

no, low budget is light tank with cav

[serene inlet]

mb i thought i put hunters

[snow rain]

smae stats (except speed but oh well) as mot but 3x cheaper

[deep relic]

I just never used cav in any game and i have never seen anyone use them either on youtube tutorials or gameplay

[snow rain]

budget build

[snow rain]

yeah because it's the basic assumption that it's bad
except it's basically cheaper motorised

[deep relic]

Bruh motorised are very cheap

You can make so many of them

[snow rain]

nuh uh
3x the cost of inf

[deep relic]

Well you are not going to use everywhere they are like cheaper tanks thats how i like to call them

[serene inlet]

how do i get naval supremacy on britain with like a hundred ships

i could attack italy and take their navy but i would take like a billion years

and waste so many shit

[deep relic]

You dont have to your ships is already too strong

[serene inlet]

what?

[deep relic]

You said britain they have one of the best fleets

[snow rain]

cheaper than tanks but no stats to match them
you have inf stats for 3x the price

[deep relic]

Hey i dont have any dlc will them make my game easy or hard

Compared to all dlc

[serene inlet]

i said on britain

im playing germany

[deep relic]

The british are dumb you can take them put in a very easy way

[serene inlet]

?

what

[deep relic]

I dont mean an insult its just the ai

[serene inlet]

so what

how do you get supremacy with a hundred ships when britain has 250

[atomic spoke]

Guys

Is multyplayer broken or my internet to ahh

[kind vale]

You wait for them to move their fleet from the English channel

[atomic spoke]

I have max 40 ping in games

[flat barn]

It's time

[serene inlet]

gonna take 10 billion years

they never move it

[kind vale]

No its not

Add italy to the war or sum

[serene inlet]

yes it does wdym

[atomic spoke]

Why am i geting disconected after a year in multyplayer

[serene inlet]

im the kaiser

[deep relic]

Bro just put your planes on the english channel i know you are going to lose a lot of them but we dont have to talk about thats the first step

[kind vale]

No it doesn't I've done it alot

[kind vale]

Then add anyone to the war

[serene inlet]

like who? hungary 😂

[kind vale]

Yeah

Add em all

And wait

[serene inlet]

landlockeds

[serene inlet]

that was pre buff

they rarely move it now

[kind vale]

They do

Bc I've done it

[serene inlet]

when

[kind vale]

Recently

[deep relic]

After you take out france and then invite italy to the war and thats it naval supermacy

[kind vale]

Just a few days ago

[serene inlet]

so do i just put my naval invasion and my hundred ships and wait 10 billion years for the AI to move it

[deep relic]

No only like a month once you invite italy to the war

[kind vale]

Spread out the ships a little bit into different parts of the ocean

[stark coyote]

@rose siren, we keep looking better 🗣️🔥

[kind vale]

Damnn

[stark coyote]

Mughals goes hard with those elephants

18w destroying AI stacks

[serene inlet]

i'm kaiser germany

[stark coyote]

With ease

[serene inlet]

i cant invite italy i reckon

[stark coyote]

Produce BBs dawg

[serene inlet]

for

[stark coyote]

Are u invading England?

[deep relic]

I think you have something called assinate mosoliny

I think i wrote this wrong

[serene inlet]

yes

[stark coyote]

Mussolini

[ruby flame]

good lord

[stark coyote]

That's why

[ruby flame]

this game really needs better peace

[serene inlet]

do the coup d'état?

is that even useless

i dont think i'll get italy's navy by doing that

[deep relic]

Coup is ussless

[serene inlet]

dude it's the focus tree

you gotta do a coup to assassinate mussolini

[deep relic]

Yes i thought you were talking about something else

[obtuse token]

HEK

HELP

[serene inlet]

invading france in 41

[deep relic]

Bruhh 😂😂

[serene inlet]

that looks ridiculous

[obtuse token]

I CAN'T GET THROUGH TO THEM FOR 2 YEARS

[serene inlet]

how

[obtuse token]

MY PANZER DIVISIONS CANNOT BREAK THROUGH THE INFANTRY

[cloud tendon]

these 70 factories doing the gods work

[deep relic]

Yes you have to restart i know there are a lot of ways to win but its going to take a lot of time and make the game boring

[stark coyote]

Damnn

[cloud tendon]

its 1939 btw

[obtuse token]

Are there any ways to capture them?

[serene inlet]

lmao what

[cloud tendon]

the reason is because im converting them and its 1IC

it would be like 70 normaly

[serene inlet]

refitting?

[obtuse token]

If I take over Britain, will France take over too?

[deep relic]

Bro you didnot even win against france do you think you can take out the uk

🫩

[serene inlet]

u wont take the uk bro

[obtuse token]

landings

[deep relic]

Bruh 💀💀

Its already hard to deal with the uk navy not to imagine with france navy

[obtuse token]

from the air

[lapis snow]

consider the possibility that you have too many men in a tiny area and they are all too starving to fight

[deep relic]

Bruh the air is very weak against ships

[deep relic]

He there might be a way to get through this line try to attack only french troops they are much weaker than uk

[stark coyote]

Why u cant breaktrought France tho? Low supply? No air supremacy? Bad tanks??

[obtuse token]

air

[stark coyote]

Use AA's

[lapis snow]

he has nearly 1m men stood in Lille

there's no supply

lol

[stark coyote]

Did u locked the sea zone?

Also lock the supply only for u too

[golden stag]

Tanks

[lost quest]

paratroopers

[lost quest]

that’s a lot of special forces cap

[serene inlet]

ytes

[fallen vigil]

imagine shooting a man with your last bullet, AND HE STANDS THERE UNFAZED

[lost quest]

It’s 1864 all over again

hopefully they have some bunkers to protect their people

[fallen vigil]

i was about to beat argentina they were 98% until they cap and they joined the allies

[lost quest]

you can easily blitz Argentina by paradropping into its victory points

[fallen vigil]

yeah im not doing allat as paraguay

also buenos arias is 99% garrisoned since its a port

[lost quest]

Paraguay is a small but mighty nation

[lost quest]

you can also encircle it with paratroopers

[dapper juniper]

is free france fun to play as

[serene inlet]

no

[sudden grotto]

historical sea lion fr fr

[safe wing]

Imperial Russia I see

I can tell by the flag and most of the leader portriats

[ruby flame]

I'm Austria and had all the AH puppets but Austrian Yugoslavia just zapped back into regular yugoslavia WTF

[sudden grotto]

Ye, doing the tsar bomb achivement

I want to kill them because they are a cancerous pain lol

Imma do some map cleanin

[safe wing]

I'm gonna play Medivial II Kingdoms expanded mod

[serene inlet]

how do i put airplanes on my ships

like the carrier

[safe wing]

there is an airplane button next to the carrier

[serene inlet]

where

[safe wing]

click the fleet icon

like move over to the fleet

[deep relic]

Hey italy is not even in the war

[deep relic]

See its very easy

[spring hedge]

doesnt that make it easier

[deep relic]

No much harder

[spring hedge]

why is netherlands still there

[deep relic]

Because my general was still perparing for the attack and couldnot attack so i had to invite italy

[spring hedge]

are they fash

[deep relic]

There is no war goal against them

[spring hedge]

you will probably want to take them out before they become uk port

[deep relic]

What the uk is already dead

[fair horizon]

AYO my light cruisers go hard

[burnt delta]

this is

beautiful

[vague abyss]

the one to the right of the fleet's name

man, all of my games recently end up with me fighting Japan

[spring hedge]

ohhh i didnt see, nice bro

[delicate lance]

Hi people! what do guys think of the right opposition Blood less coup? especially after it got buffed within last year as you remove debuffs from the purges? could you argue its better to do the coup than the normal Stalin path and more beneficial?

[stark coyote]

Idk, I still think that industrially speaking Centre path still better

Since too much time is spent preparing everything to kill Stalin and the coup, however if you do it well you can come out quite well because you also keep almost all the generals

I haven't played the centre for a while now, But with Rykov I can have 0 consumer good But with Rykov I can have 0 consumer goods factories 🥵🥵🥵

[stark coyote]

Peak Russia

[delicate lance]

And you can have Chad Mikhail Tuk, (he is chad only if you arent polish)

[sudden grotto]

Spasiba tovarich

[stark coyote]

Nobody will talk bad of my boi Tukha in my presence 🗣️🔥

[stark coyote]

I did a new Mughal run

And it's better than before

[sudden grotto]

Hwo did It go?

[sharp sierra]

why does south america have no options to get more resources bro

[sudden grotto]

Man i have to wait for thermo

[sudden grotto]

My ass Is done

[stark coyote]

• I have Austria, Hungary and Romania as puppets

[delicate lance]

i mean he did use gas attacks against the polish, so he wasnt the perfect hailed and admired man, and when he was shot he was apparently asking for clemency in his final moments

[sharp sierra]

no prospecting decisions for steel or anything

[stark coyote]

I've never read about the last part so I don't know, but I can't deny it either

[delicate lance]

Unlike Yamashita and tojo who were at peace and ready to go

[stark coyote]

Im preparing to invade the Soviets for all their resources

[delicate lance]

Wiki,

[stark coyote]

Then Ill finally fight against USSR

[sudden grotto]

Lucky you...at least you got some action

[stark coyote]

How strange, maybe I should reread

[sudden grotto]

Imma invade the USA

[stark coyote]

Finally

[sudden grotto]

I am bored

Wtf

Who ta fack Is August Kosterlitzky

That doesnt sounds very Mexican ngl

[stark coyote]

According to what I have read there is no record of that, so I don't know, but according to the official reports and those of more recent Russian investigators it is also implied that he always denied the accusations against him (which were obviously false) and ended up being shot by a firing squad

[stark coyote]

Nice question

No idra

Idea

[sudden grotto]

About what?

[stark coyote]

Tukhachevsky

[sudden grotto]

What did my boy do lol

[stark coyote]

.

[sudden grotto]

Stalin After that: i should have kept that mfer. He was a good marschal.

[stark coyote]

4eal

Real

[delicate lance]

Yea, but still, Field Marshal in early 40s? developed doctrines in the early 35 that were fully commited by mid 40s? He was good at skill (except for warsa) but morally? dont compare him to Zhukov, rommel

[sudden grotto]

I bet Stalin cried for months for that

[serene inlet]

this is draining

[stark coyote]

Stalin just made a huge mistake by purging a lot of his highly competent high command 💀

[serene inlet]

i hate the britain buff

[stark coyote]

Why from n9rth?

North

[serene inlet]

u cant from south

[stark coyote]

It's better and easier from South, wdym dawg 💔

[sudden grotto]

He wss Just not cooking

[serene inlet]

no it isnt what 😂

[sudden grotto]

He didnt season the steak

L move

[serene inlet]

they got 10 billion reinforcements there and if ur navy is like a hundred ships like mine u will get crushed during naval invasion

and they get their units much faster

[lone sail]

you could argue that they would have betrayed him if he hadnt

[stark coyote]

It is easy to invade from the South dawg, 9 of 10 times u end up capturing London and just march around UK

[lone sail]

also stalin had mental problems

paranoia

[serene inlet]

pre buff

[stark coyote]

There is actually no evidence that anyone was planning anything as he accused, but I can understand it anyway

[stark coyote]

Even after buff

[serene inlet]

unless they got their units somewhere in the 3rd world trust me ur not "marching in the uk"

[serene inlet]

no

[stark coyote]

Skill Issue ig

[lone sail]

they might not have been planning at the time, but they might have done a coup when hitler invaded

[stark coyote]

Arent u using marines or something like that?

[serene inlet]

no you just havent played

[serene inlet]

i am

[sudden grotto]

made in russia fleet fr fr

[stark coyote]

Pioneers are goated too

[sudden grotto]

From scratch

Ngl

[stark coyote]

I mean, It would be good lmao

[lone sail]

it would have probably been worse than stalin

[delicate lance]

But at skill he also was so good that the germans, the czechoSlavs "snitched." (Told them the planted evidence) on him to get him killed.

[lone sail]

they got rid of the tsar, they got stalin

they get rid of stalin and they would have gotten someone worse

[sudden grotto]

At least they industrialized lol, with the tsar they might have industrialized by the 50s

[lone sail]

true

[stark coyote]

I don't like the ones those "what would have happened" scenarios tho, it could be anything tbh

It's like guessing and making up a story

[lone sail]

yeah

[sharp sierra]

wendys sprite

[lone sail]

but alternate history is really cool

[stark coyote]

For the cost of millions, it is painful, but I cannot say that the Tsar would have done it with less 💀

[stark coyote]

It is

Like WHAT IF KAISER RETURNED 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[lone sail]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiser-wilhelm-kawaii-teruboz-gif-13107628486786161527

[stark coyote]

I got one for poland

[lone sail]

what if kaiser wilhelm played hoi4

what if stalin played hoi4

what if hitler played hoi4

[sudden grotto]

Dude the tsars Just genocided 1M+ circassians and nobody talks about It lol ( today circassians are almost totally extinct)

No more cool random caucas ethnic group 💔

[stark coyote]

There are many things that they just ignore 💀

[sudden grotto]

Ethnic cleansing, true eu4 enjoyer

[lone sail]

some tsars where horrible

most

tsar nicolas was just not prepared to be a tsar

[sharp sierra]

do not redeem saar

[sudden grotto]

All of them partecipated in it

[sudden grotto]

Do not redeem the rhine 🗣️

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-redeem-don't-redeem-scammer-kitboga-do-not-redeem-the-card-gif-11900855712098613254

[sudden grotto]

Mostly*

[lone sail]

i said most

[sudden grotto]

Only Peter the great Who made some modernization but the rest have their hands soaked in blood

[lone sail]

tsar Nicolas's grandfather was pretty good

he was a reformer

[sudden grotto]

Didnt last long with his successor huh

[stark coyote]

Like almost all country leader smh

[lone sail]

his successor was abysmal

[sudden grotto]

Dont you insult Ronald Reagon 🗣️ he did nothing fr fr

[lone sail]

he was the reason nick was a horrible tsar

he didnt teach his son how to be a tsar

[sudden grotto]

So a 30 years should wait his adult ass for his old Daddy to teach him normal politics or how to reign?

Dayum, an adult with the mind of a child

Wont take a single responsability

Or a simple clever thought

[lone sail]

it was his fathers responsibility to teach him how to rule

[fallow grove]

What’s the point of choosing the decision of sharpen air safety regulations as Germany lol

[sudden grotto]

"oh, i am next in succession, Imma go to Japan and get a tattoo"

[lone sail]

his father told him to do that

[sudden grotto]

YE YE sure, an adult cant learn from him?

He needs to learn like a Little kid or sum?

[lone sail]

i mean yeah

[sudden grotto]

He should have been near him and not Just walk and fk around

[stark coyote]

It's just needed to prevent the zeppelin accident

[lone sail]

he was supposed to be taught how to rule as a little kid

[fallen vigil]

lowkey war has some pros it encourages technological development

[stark coyote]

If u want Victoria

[lone sail]

thats the whole point of a monarchy

[fallow grove]

And what happens if the incident happens

I thought it always happened no matter what

[sudden grotto]

Ye. But he was not a child, he was a grown ass adult, he should have thought of his future responsabilities

[stark coyote]

You can save the zeppelin if you do the regulations

It isnt important at least u want Victoria as leader

[lone sail]

he wasnt taught as a child or as an adult

[stark coyote]

Since royal family will use it for something in UK and they all die

[sudden grotto]

You are defending a Lost cause, someone Who didnt bother to learn to reign

[lone sail]

his father literally refused to teach him

[stark coyote]

Tsar Niko II was just incompetent

[lone sail]

yeah

because he was never taught how to be a tsar

[sudden grotto]

So what? He could have gone to another noble? Do like Peter the Great, learn by travel king, but hrck no, Just get a mfing tattoo and put the rest for later

[stark coyote]

Like Wilhelm II, but the latter was someone prepared

[lone sail]

wilhelm was a great ruler

[sudden grotto]

Nicholas II was Just, and realistically, a bs tsar, if not the most One, and incompetent Who didnt bother to get his hands dirty for his people

[stark coyote]

He wasnt 😭

[lone sail]

he was

his domestic policy was great

[fallow grove]

Oh it is only available if u get rid of Hitler right?

[lone sail]

his diplomacy skills where a lost cause

[stark coyote]

Hitler domestic policy was great too

I don't see ur point

[stark coyote]

Yeah

[lone sail]

you mean the literal g cide

[stark coyote]

Let's put that aside

I wasn't talking about that

[fallow grove]

He sucked ass

[lone sail]

and forced labor?

[sudden grotto]

So Willy Is free from the opressions in colonail territories?

[lone sail]

hitlers domestic policy wasnt nearly as good as wilhelms

[latent galleon]

Hitler also liked to wear stockings too

[lone sail]

he didnt directly manage the colonies

[stark coyote]

That's so random dawg

[fallow grove]

Who wears stockings😭

[stark coyote]

@sudden grotto , we already fighting Sovs 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[latent galleon]

Hitler was the most aggressive Femboy

[sudden grotto]

But he knew what was happening, and didnt bother

[lone sail]

https://tenor.com/view/loled-serioused-emoji-silly-emoji-smile-serious-emoji-gif-7374446469048077031

[sudden grotto]

I am invading USA lol

[fallow grove]

I never wear stocking while using sneakers lol

[lone sail]

not necessarily

it often gets swept under the rug

[stark coyote]

Now I need steel tho

[sudden grotto]

Hitler disliked this and tweeted you Lost style

[lone sail]

just steal the steel from stalin

[latent galleon]

Well boys we did it

[fallow grove]

Hitler lost ww2 because he tried to grind all the general traits on himself

[lone sail]

no

[stark coyote]

Bad news, Stalin's steel is far from the fronr

Front

[lone sail]

because he ran out of command points

to make steiner force attack

[stark coyote]

What are yall yapping about?

[sudden grotto]

He didnt buff his generals in the spanish war fr fr

[stark coyote]

It's because he didn't used the correct doctrine

[latent galleon]

Macau my day with mech only confirmed

[fallow grove]

Steiner disbanded his army himself because ran out of guns

[serene inlet]

britain took a full year to invade and i couldnt even get a peace deal because the US joined, screw this game

abandoning this save

[lone sail]

hitler used his last command point here instead of using it to make steiner force attack

[latent galleon]

Bro hwot

How

[serene inlet]

what

[fallow grove]

He was busy grinding the inner circle

[stark coyote]

Only downside of fighting against Soviets is that I cant grind their mp down

[latent galleon]

How did it take a year

[serene inlet]

wdym how

[latent galleon]

They fold the second you land on the island

[serene inlet]

they had 60 divisions on the same front in scotland

???

tf u talkinga bout

i had to naval invade from the south aswell and encircle their 100 units

[latent galleon]

Smh

[sudden grotto]

Aw hell nah...i dont wanna wait till 47 for a bomb...

Man this achievement Is cancerous

[stark coyote]

Mughals are way too easy

[fallow grove]

Quick question how to actually deplete your enemies manpower faster?

[stark coyote]

Elephants are op

[latent galleon]

You mean Cubaphants

[stark coyote]

Holding the line literally

[fallow grove]

With tank attacks?

[serene inlet]

they had like 200 divisions total or something almost

all in there

[serene inlet]

i had only like 120

remove the britain buff

they ruin the game

[latent galleon]

Bro I only had 48

[lone sail]

Amazing elephant

[serene inlet]

yeah and you prob fought barely 20

thats pre buff

[latent galleon]

No

I killed like 3.1 mill

On the island

[stark coyote]

Im using 24 18w divs and im walking through Soviets lines like its a panzer div lmao

[serene inlet]

??

that doesnt make sense

[latent galleon]

You really don't need more than like 3 army groups in the game if there high quality armies

[serene inlet]

if you kill 3 mil you're not even taking them quickly

[latent galleon]

Bro they fell in 2 weeks

[serene inlet]

or that means you encircled their 200 divisions but i highly doubt so 💀

[serene inlet]

so you didnt kill 3 mil

[latent galleon]

I did

[serene inlet]

you don't capitalute a country in 2 weeks and kill 3 mil lmao

[stark coyote]

Bruh, how you even get 200 divs in england 😭😭

[latent galleon]

Clearly you've never gotten encirclement so you kill several million manpower worth

[serene inlet]

wdym how they just instantly reinforce with everything they have

[latent galleon]

Bro

[stark coyote]

They dont instantly reinforce like before

[latent galleon]

I only used like 30cw mech

And they folded

[serene inlet]

they do?

[stark coyote]

They have already divs in, so u should kill some of them in the initial part of the invasion

[serene inlet]

you can't encircle them instnatly

[latent galleon]

The UK folds under any pressure

[serene inlet]

were not playing the same game tbh

was like this for a year

[latent galleon]

Should have just went mech only

[serene inlet]

i had 300 soft attack marines

[latent galleon]

Only 300

[stark coyote]

Idk why ur invading from north, that just makes the invasion harder

[serene inlet]

that good for 39

[sudden grotto]

Wtf

[latent galleon]

No

[serene inlet]

no it doesnt it's easier

[stark coyote]

They dont need too much tho

[serene inlet]

if you go from south ur doomed

they have 5 units per port

[stark coyote]

😭😭😭😭

[latent galleon]

Beo

Bro

What are you on

[sudden grotto]

Dude naval invade them from behind, Crazy encirclerment

[serene inlet]

i did

took months for the naval invasion to start

[latent galleon]

I just navel invaded on Norfolk and they folded

Killed like 70 divs in the first 3 days

[sudden grotto]

"guys they landed, its joever"

[latent galleon]

Germany and mech is just the only way to go

[serene inlet]

type of shit you see right after you land

[latent galleon]

Why did you land in Northumberland bro

[serene inlet]

were not playing the same game tbh

[latent galleon]

What

[serene inlet]

they have less units there

[latent galleon]

🫠

[serene inlet]

if i land from the south its like this times 2

[latent galleon]

Dude

[fair horizon]

less supply too

and you didnt even get a port

[serene inlet]

so

[serene inlet]

no shit i cant

[stark coyote]

And eventually more, there are less tiles to invade so they will be more concentrated in a same front dawg

[latent galleon]

What do you mean so you need supply

What do you mean

[serene inlet]

the initial landing from the south is barely even possible

[latent galleon]

The reason they're able to reinforce so quickly is because you have to go through like 3 sea tiles just to naval invade

Bro

[serene inlet]

they literally have 10 billion units there

[stark coyote]

U are just doing something wrong then

[latent galleon]

Youe not cooking

You're

[serene inlet]

? im not

[latent galleon]

No you're not

[serene inlet]

i have a nice template, supply my air is mid but it shouldnt be a problem

[latent galleon]

You don't even need air brother

[serene inlet]

i know

[latent galleon]

I wasn't even using meta divisions I don't even know what meta is and they folded in 2 weeks

[serene inlet]

most people who land in britain they just tell me its easy, they show me what they did and they stumbe on like barely 20 units

like meanwhile i'm fighting 100

atleast

[stark coyote]

How are ur template looking? U have air supremacy?

Its easier to invade from Dunkirk to Portsmouth and Dover (at the same tine) and you can encircle Dover port

Once u have the port send tanks quick and push with the marines a bit further

[latent galleon]

I didn't even form the axis

[stark coyote]

And you got the invasion

[latent galleon]

I fight them solo

[lone sail]

one time i failed the german civil war but i got to berlin and hitler shot himself even though berlin was all i had

[serene inlet]

portsmouth is terrible tbh

[lone sail]

bro thought he was losing

[serene inlet]

its like the worst place

[stark coyote]

That's wild 💔

[latent galleon]

Bro

[serene inlet]

yeah it is the worst place after buff

[latent galleon]

UK is dog

[serene inlet]

lemme reload my save and try o naval invade from the south

youllse

[latent galleon]

They still are

[serene inlet]

make ts up

[latent galleon]

I'll see that you don't cook?

[serene inlet]

we're not fighting the same britain

[latent galleon]

Bro look at your divisions they are dying from not having any food

Malnourished wehrmacht over here

[toxic lotus]

U need air in sp my guy

[latent galleon]

You really don't

[toxic lotus]

Cas is king and yes u do

[latent galleon]

Good AA is all you need

CAS is the goat

But it's not required

[stark coyote]

U don't need it

It will be optimal to have it

[toxic lotus]

U do

[latent galleon]

You don't need to build a single plane in this game

[stark coyote]

But u absolutely don't need it

[latent galleon]

All you need to do is steal Nations Navy

[toxic lotus]

U are just handicaping youreself

[latent galleon]

And have good ground troops that's it

Not really

The air superiority penalties aren't that great like sure they're a nice cherry on top but they're not going to make or break your game

[stark coyote]

Rn im doing full Mughal and beated China + Germany with out planes and already kicking USSR

Without a single plane

[latent galleon]

This but I'm just using mech and same thing

[stark coyote]

But its true that Air just makes things easier, but they are NOT needed tho

[toxic lotus]

U need air this is my opinion

[latent galleon]

Like I totally agree having air

Is awesome

Totally positive

[stark coyote]

"Opinion" not actual fact

[latent galleon]

But the AI is so dog

That it doesn't matter

Just a waste of mils

When they could be spent on any thing else

[stark coyote]

Btw I conquered Stalingrad 🗣️🔥

[latent galleon]

I got not much fun in stalingrad without a single plane

If I had to build planes I'd build fighters

[willow summit]

I love when Italy forms their own faction and try to invade all of Europe just to get destroyed by Germany and the allies

[latent galleon]

Fettuccine linguine Mussolini

[west sequoia]

so close yet so far

[latent galleon]

What path did you go

[west sequoia]

Romanov

[latent galleon]

Noice

Very cool

What achievement do I get next?

[west sequoia]

Romanov's Last Laugh is a fun one

so is "Die, Perfidious Albion"

[latent galleon]

I played Poland recently and got that one we had to capitulate Soviets an Germany

[sudden grotto]

Tsar bomb

[latent galleon]

Which is?

[sudden grotto]

Get thermonuclear bomb as romanov

[west sequoia]

Romanov's Last Laugh is a Russian achievement for conquering Germany, Turkey, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Austria

[latent galleon]

Oh that's easy what

[sudden grotto]

Which of the two?

[latent galleon]

Romanovs last laugh

Both

[sudden grotto]

Ye tahts essy

You cns esrly rush it

[latent galleon]

I want like a kinda hard one

[sudden grotto]

Yeeeeee but you gotta end up in 46-47 fornit

[latent galleon]

I was thinking of knocking at the gates

[digital aurora]

How can i help defend against an enemy raid on my facility?

[latent galleon]

The Switzerland one

[sudden grotto]

Anti air, interception

[latent galleon]

Or is it are you not entertained what is it called

Something like that

[sudden grotto]

24 canto

?

[latent galleon]

As Switzerland conquer Germany and win

[sudden grotto]

Isnt taht broken?

[digital aurora]

They are coming to kill a scientist, would i station troops at the facility?

[sudden grotto]

I Heard that the achievement can easily bug or sum

[latent galleon]

Oof

[sudden grotto]

Ig

[latent galleon]

What would the strategy be not even going after Austria or anything and just declaring war soon as possible and holding the mountains

[stark coyote]

Yes

[latent galleon]

Maybe take Italian land

I'm just thinking of keeping the front line as narrow as possible

[sudden grotto]

Just be a whole with switzerland.

[latent galleon]

Wdym

Like I know they have options to take territory and core it but I feel like taking Austria is a stupid idea

[sudden grotto]

shiiiiiii

[sudden grotto]

you gotta awake teh swissin you 🗣️

Shoot them with cheese cannons fr fr

[latent galleon]

I'm neutrally going to take all of your land

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-neutral-gif-8034848

[fallow grove]

For doing a kaiserreich Germany which kaiser has the better buffs?

[cerulean orchid]

kaiserredux try not to deathstack 20 units on each tile challenge impossible

like bro i literally have almost complete air control over italy and im using decent units and it takes like over a month to take 1 tile

i get it being this way on the german french front but there is no way that the communists should be putting this many divs in italy

also they took 1 city from lombardy and they capped instantly

[delicate lance]

reddux is so bad

[serene inlet]

nvm its easier if you invade from norwich

[latent galleon]

Nice job 👏

[cerulean orchid]

i dont think its terrible its just fighting literally anything in western europe is just not fun

[serene inlet]

they barely had any units this time for some reason

its strange

[latent galleon]

It's hit or miss

But I know what you mean

[cerulean orchid]

i feel like im forced to only play asian or american countries because if i try playing something like italy or germany i have to deal with the 30 division deathstack with maxed forts on the french german front

[latent galleon]

But I promise like in my game I just had really good quality and they still had every there and I won anyway the AI just isn't that good

[delicate lance]

kaiserredux and reich combat are literally late 45 vanilla combat, people play those mods for politics and stuff, btw in germany advisors can do focus trees for you, have they implemated that in the mods?