hoi4-general

[stark coyote]

What? 💀

As leader

[sudden grotto]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyacheslav_Molotov

[sudden grotto]

He wasnt One

[stark coyote]

I know him, I meant as leader

[sudden grotto]

Aw hell nah

[stark coyote]

After the coup

[sudden grotto]

You cant

[stark coyote]

I know 😭

[sudden grotto]

I am confused now lol

[stark coyote]

Im talking about the Right Opposition Soviets run im doing

Rykov or Bukharin as leader? Stalin is DEATH 🔥

[sudden grotto]

Bukharin obv

Rykov aint cooking shit

He ates his food raw because he aint made to rule ussr fr fr

[sudden falcon]

so how exactly would you push them

[lone sail]

dig in and defend

[sudden falcon]

exactly what ive been doing

[clear dagger]

naval invade from the side

[safe wing]

who is that guy

he looks familiar

oh

its Zinoviev

thats his mug shot

when the NKVD arrested him

[stark coyote]

Yes

[candid panther]

can we get a W for this finally hit 100 achievements

[stark coyote]

W for playing Romania

[long heron]

would anybody be interested joining a roleplay community that you can roleplay as a country or citizen or govement figure if so privately dm

[stark coyote]

Is so ass

[split bane]

W

[safe wing]

hey Canadian

[split bane]

Hey

[safe wing]

I replayed the COD 3 Canadian campaign

it was fun when it wasn't glitchy

[split bane]

Nice, what battles are in it?

[safe wing]

Falaise pocket campaign

in August 1944

[split bane]

Huh, interesting choice made by Activision

Personally I would have made it focus on the liberation of the Netherlands

[safe wing]

same or battle of the scheldt

the free Polish campaign was the best

it covers the battle of mount Ormel

ending of it is really sad if you know history

where the Polish CO says he will be home soon and that Germany will surender soon

ands it even sadder knowing his character

as he was a veteran of WWI

[clear dagger]

lol germany ran out of people

their entire army is like 20% strength lol

[cerulean orchid]

kaiserredux try not to be extremely broken challenge impossible

i got japan btw but my game crashed bc ofc it did

[sudden geode]

what are some nations that start faciast

and you can turn them into there historical empire or whatever its called

[safe wing]

Germany, Japan and Italy

[sudden geode]

what about smaller nations

[buoyant fractal]

a damn bike division took gibraltar

[safe wing]

Dominican republic El Salvador and Peru

[sudden geode]

thanks

[safe wing]

and I forgot Venezuela

[sudden geode]

where is dominican republic

[safe wing]

next to Hati

[sudden geode]

where is Hati

[safe wing]

like near Cuba

[sudden geode]

where is Cuba

[sudden geode]

i dont think i should do that i dont know how to do naval yet

im going to do

uhh

[safe wing]

do Venezuela

[sudden geode]

ok

i started elsalvador

and im going to try get the federal republic

how do you increase manpower?

[slim sigil]

increase conscription law

[cerulean orchid]

the long island south of usa

[sudden geode]

whats that

[cerulean orchid]

its going to be really boring

el salvador has no focus tree or dedicated content

literally the only thing you can do is form centroamerica

[dusky burrow]

spen

[cerulean orchid]

i did it once and it was kind of fun but its annoying because you have very limited manpower and industry

so youre stuck fighting other countries with terrible units

[slim sigil]

germany and canada are the best beginner countries

arent they

idk about germany i havent played since 1.14

[cerulean orchid]

canada is pretty good

[cerulean orchid]

if you dont plan on invading the uk yea

but they updated the uk ai to guard the home islands more and its a lot harder to successfully invade them now

[slim sigil]

learning the game doesnt really involve invading the uk

so it should still be fine then

[sudden geode]

i just chose it to learn the game but who do you recommend next i play as?

[cerulean orchid]

do you have any dlc

[sudden geode]

no not yet

[cerulean orchid]

i would try usa or canada

youre basically guarenteed to win

[slim sigil]

france is. The best beginner country

[cerulean orchid]

canada is prolly a bit better

because you actually have to pay attention to your manpower and stuff and you dont start with a completely overpowered industry

[heavy shell]

You should start out with like Germany and then play minor nations once you got a grasps of the game

[cerulean orchid]

their focus tree is kind of bad tho because half of it including focuses which get rid of your worst debuffs are locked behind being at war

(canada)

[heavy shell]

I imagine getting rid of the -30% recrutable french Canadian debuff is probably the number 1 priority

[sudden geode]

ok but it does seem complicated

[cerulean orchid]

pretty sure you cant get rid of great depression or the quebec conscription crisis debuffs without being at war

[slim sigil]

my first game was australia

was hell

[heavy shell]

It is, you’ll get pummeled to the ground, but just try again it doesn’t matter

[heavy shell]

Yo same lmao

[cerulean orchid]

i just did a canada playthrough and it was kind of fun

until sweden declared war on me for some reason and joined the usa faction

i was about to cap italy

[heavy shell]

The allies finally lost in 1960 when India and Germany invaded the USA, but I survived till the end

[clear dagger]

italy ai finally having clean borders

[cerulean orchid]

germany just owning that random state is bugging me

[heavy shell]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Italy ai ever play effectively

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/serbia-gif-10490450246331073660

[cedar latch]

I just had a brainwave

[cerulean orchid]

they do have a bunch of debuffs ig

that i dont believe you can fully get rid of

[heavy shell]

Yall need to try anarchist Spain

[cerulean orchid]

i played them once

all i did was kill portugal tho

[cedar latch]

What if they actually gave the USA in hoi4 like 99 transport aircraft carriers

[heavy vigil]

Wowie its jamie from long time ago

[cerulean orchid]

i dont like playing spain bc the civil war is terrib

[cerulean orchid]

hewo

[heavy shell]

I always found it pretty easy to deal with, just annoying because of the fact your divisions have no organisation damage

[cedar latch]

I love the civil war

[cerulean orchid]

i wanna try out spanish directory eventually

every time ive played spain ive played the republicans so maybe the civil war would be easier

[cedar latch]

It’s truly an amazing experience

[heavy shell]

I got France, I’m planning on stalling a bunch until Japan get the number of British ships down

[cedar latch]

Playing as Carlist Spain is my favourite pastime

[cerulean orchid]

can you even do anything as carlist spain besides form iberia

[cedar latch]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[heavy shell]

Why would you do anything but Iberia

[cerulean orchid]

can carlists do the franco spanish union or is that only france

[cedar latch]

I wanna say yes and no at the same time

[cerulean orchid]

long aah switzerland

[lapis totem]

Peak Mexico game, Trotsky got assassinated twice

[buoyant fractal]

what

[west sluice]

is the max light attack CL and torp destroyer still the best for minor nations? surface fleet, not for subs

[heavy shell]

For some reason they’ve got a bunch of territory and also went to war with Austria and Hungary, I also forgot to mention they’re part of the komitern

They just joined them, when the ussr wasn’t even at war with any of its enemies

It just did

[frozen isle]

2.8million soviets to 2k polish

[buoyant heath]

any idea when the next dlc is coming or when we will ever get more info

[fading rampart]

hmmm

what countrys good for starters

[cerulean orchid]

canada or germany

[fading rampart]

canada?

what parh

path

[heavy vigil]

Prc

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/petoria-peter-flag-all-hail-petoria-peter-griffin-gif-27039554

Best beginner country

Im joking btw

[long heron]

would anybody be interested joining a roleplay community that you can roleplay as a country or citizen or govement figure if so privately dm

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[long heron]

best country ever 100%

[autumn plover]

Is it at all worth it making a "multi-role" fighter or should I stick to making pure fighters and pure CAS

[dire hornet]

huh

[autumn plover]

Labour is getting really sick of Churchill it seems

[lapis totem]

Playing a game a mexico, got "Trotsky assassinated" pop-up twice

the Juche necromancy brought Trotsky back so Stalin could ice pick him, himself

[west sluice]

do you need battleships for carriers? ive heard you do, but since carriers dont engage in the main fight it doesnt seem to me like u need BBs to soak up the heavy damage, since carriers wont get hit if they arent in the fight

[long umbra]

Finally 😭

evil achievement

pov the campaign was 5 years longer than it would have been otherwise bc the axis did too well in iraq

[buoyant fractal]

peak

[latent galleon]

we did it bois

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/go-ahead-make-my-day-clint-eastwood-gif-8449097

[latent galleon]

yippeeeee

time for another achievement run any ideas

[long umbra]

@latent galleon this one

No rest time

[latent galleon]

what is that

[long umbra]

You have to get this as Iran

and you need ownership not control

🙏

[west sluice]

are planes good for naval detection

*land based planes

[misty fossil]

assume allied leadership before the uk kicks you out

[misty fossil]

no

they’re only there to torp ships

[west sluice]

dam

[west sluice]

the best you can do is a cruiser with 2 AA 2 catapult set to do not engage right? that's what i remember hearing

or subs as well but those get lost easier

[misty fossil]

Yes

just do scouting cruisers

[true needle]

its september 1938, should I go to war with russia (doing romanov poland) or should I wait until the germans declare war on me?

[hard glade]

If the Germans are stronger go for the Soviets first but if you think you can take on them first go ahead

[clear dagger]

do you think you'll destroy the soviets in a year?

[true needle]

no, ill just give danzig to the germans

[tiny wasp]

Chump

You can take them

[true needle]

indeed I can

for whatever reason the germans have pulled everything off of the border

[tiny wasp]

When they do that it’s important not to get overconfident

Take some but know when to stop

They’ll pull troops back eventually

[nocturne geyser]

guys why for some reason when playing the ussr i cant join the allies but when i play against them they join?

[tiny wasp]

USSR is in its own faction

[nocturne geyser]

wait so how they join the allies when i play maybe because ive played non historical?

[nocturne cedar]

wait, build forts and then hold

[true needle]

I got cooked by the germans

ill try going for the soviets next time

[candid oxide]

multirole fighters are very expensive and not worth it imo, stick with best airframe best engine+HMGs for fighters, best airframe best engine and bomb locks for CAS

they're fun as the US for sure

[stark coyote]

No

[sudden falcon]

wonderful

[tiny wasp]

Ew

[jagged trench]

some mods are pretty brutal

4 hours ago this was the campaign i was dealing with

equestria at war btw 🥀

[rose siren]

😭😭

[tiny tartan]

why is there a "union" in the east, if it's green

[tiny tartan]

why fight the Germans first as the Romanov ever
Your whole goal on this path is to core Russia

[golden tulip]

multiplayer game btw

[tiny tartan]

Also I hate the Polish Romanov path
Despite beign a shitty meme path, it can be really powerful, and it's quite easy to get

[golden tulip]

mussolini is proud

[true needle]

Ah, Abyssinia, I never figured out the noble mechanic

[tiny tartan]

I think a Pan-Slavic Polish path would be really cool
Especially that there are historically some people who would be fit for a path like this
But instead you get a terrible and small focus tree

[scenic moon]

Oh god my dream

[remote cargo]

nein sehen sie nicht

[clear dagger]

mussolini grew 1 strand of hair on his head just now

[sudden falcon]

i love paratroopers

how tf did they push a tank division out

czech ai is more competent than soviet ai

[deft agate]

How does one design Space Marines

Ive tried a million times and always been told to Use heavy tanks or sum BS like that

[sudden falcon]

bro 😭

capitulated with 100% victory points 😭

[pearl jackal]

hoi4 is so buggy wth

so im playing hungary right, and i demanded romania, after a few events, mediators and demands they gave me transylvania, but then an event popped up which made me and germany declare on romania????

[leaden quartz]

how the ai genuinley treats me when im having fun

non historical and 95% of the world when historical

[limber jackal]

what is the german reich doing bro

[leaden quartz]

poland act joined they js wanted sudetenland and i said nah

[limber jackal]

why is hoi4 ai so bad

like srsly

the only thing i'd ever say is good ai in hoi4 is 42-43 ussr

cuz they're pretty op

[sharp sierra]

thats not op they just have entrenchment

[leaden quartz]

well i agree but this time not their fault

[sudden falcon]

czech ai held out longer than the soviets did

[limber jackal]

czech ai almost never refuses tho 🤷‍♂️

if it refuses then it might just be game over for germany

[sudden falcon]

in 1945

in allied controlled europe

[limber jackal]

are achievements fun to get btw?

im wondering if i should start getting achievements

[sharp sierra]

they can be fun

[leaden quartz]

some are stupid tho

[sharp sierra]

but its easy to get an unhealthy mindset with them

where it feels like theres no point to play unless youre going for one

[limber jackal]

yk i'd prolly have 50+ achievements if i played iron man mode ;-;

i shoulda played iron man

[leaden quartz]

bro the soviets just made me lose bc they declared war on poland

[limber jackal]

how does one do this one bro

[sudden falcon]

not that hard

[sharp sierra]

thats super easy

[limber jackal]

do you just ally germany or smth

[sudden falcon]

just forts and railroads

[limber jackal]

oh

[leaden quartz]

16 widths spam?

[sudden falcon]

and aa

[limber jackal]

so you have to just defend relentlessly?

[sudden falcon]

and planes

[sharp sierra]

why 16 width...

just any infantry and planes

[sudden falcon]

the only person who invades u is germany

usually

[sharp sierra]

just forward invade poland at the start of the game too

[limber jackal]

should i try this 🔥

[sudden falcon]

no

[sharp sierra]

yea its super fun

[leaden quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-i-dont-know-about-that-ear-scratching-gif-26056892

[limber jackal]

broo imma crash out

i fr wouldve had some decently rare achievements if i played iron man 😭

[sharp sierra]

its kind of bothersome to play

with the constant saving

[limber jackal]

how does one play the secret bear path

[sharp sierra]

but if ur gonna play ironman there is dignity in save scumming your game file

[limber jackal]

my friend told me about it and said its super hard

[sharp sierra]

save scumming ironman is good

[limber jackal]

pretty sure it was for poland

but not sure

[sharp sierra]

not hard

[limber jackal]

some bear called vojtek?

[sharp sierra]

the wojtek bear one

[limber jackal]

oh

wojtek

[leaden quartz]

yo can do that

[sharp sierra]

yea just copy the save file into another folder

[grizzled yarrow]

chat

whats the strongest polish focus path

[limber jackal]

honestly

[sharp sierra]

this is my save scum folder

[limber jackal]

idk

play wojtek fr

guys

any recommendations for 30 minutes of hel

[sharp sierra]

hmm

[limber jackal]

my idea is to give up territory to go behind a river and entrench

[limber jackal]

but im not sure how viable that is

[leaden quartz]

bittersteel has a tutorial on it i think, im pretty sure its like falling back into the areas of krakow becase u cant cap or sum sum

[sharp sierra]

bittersteels probably wont work

i cant find my screenshot for it

[limber jackal]

btw why do people say poland is so op?

[limber jackal]

never seen how poland is that op

[leaden quartz]

i think thats js for alt hist

[limber jackal]

so i just fr have to camp like crazy?

[sharp sierra]

yea

in that screenie i pushed to gleiwitz but u wont have that tile

[limber jackal]

guess ill try that

[sharp sierra]

it will take lots of tinkering

youll learn a lot abot the game

[limber jackal]

like what?

defense?

[sharp sierra]

about all the things you can do to min max and combat modifieres

[limber jackal]

btw

[sharp sierra]

victory or death army thing is really good

[limber jackal]

did you delete some of ur army

cuz its smaller than the base army you get

[sharp sierra]

probably consolidated some of it

its been a while

[limber jackal]

yeh like 9 troops are missing

meh guess ill delete them if they're unrequired

[sharp sierra]

here was an earlier photo

[leaden quartz]

dude i hate austria i have done 20 runs of austria hungary and ive suceeded one and that barely counts bc i took a sc then capitulated 5 mins later

[sharp sierra]

i think i forgot to put my game on ahistorical

so its gnna be really boring now

[limber jackal]

that strategy def didnt work

okkk new one

[sharp sierra]

ur prob just trash and you dont really know any of the intricacies about it anyways

build a few forts starting day 1 on the line

[limber jackal]

i know

it just made me capitulate

[sharp sierra]

did u release czech

[limber jackal]

huh what

no

[sharp sierra]

lol

thats kind of the whole thing with that

[limber jackal]

how

meh

[sharp sierra]

just do it and see

[limber jackal]

guess ill do it

[sharp sierra]

it gives you supply and 2 less tiles to defend against

[frail bolt]

I capitulate when i touch grass

[sharp sierra]

ur mom capitulates to me on sight

[frail bolt]

Then you get 0 victory points

[echo tartan]

i dont think its supposed to be working like ts

[sharp sierra]

why would you say your moms worth that little

[frail bolt]

Abusive mom

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/renee-renee-graves-tcoaal-coffin-romney-gif-3255679044295626576

i should not be playng this right now when i have to work at 8

[limber jackal]

how has germany remilitarized the rhineland TWICE in a row on a historical

[candid oxide]

5G

[ripe slate]

Maybe the Allies opposed them with threat of war, but then didnt double down when Germany refused to re-demilitarize

[leaden quartz]

i played eu4 for the first time and i was js curious if i was js dumb for thinking the pathfinding for units kinda sucks

primarily navy

[sharp sierra]

nah the game just sucks in general

jk ive never played

[primal timber]

encircled shandong

[toxic lotus]

What unit mod are u using bro

Why are they like cubs

Cuebs

[leaden quartz]

bice i think]

[primal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-gif-15112361227290036695

[sharp sierra]

didnt this guy die

[primal timber]

if i had nato symbols on it would be more convincing

[primal timber]

you're thinking of hulk hogan

[toxic lotus]

Nah

[primal timber]

rbms

[sharp sierra]

that guy looks nothing like hulk hogan

but i was just lying anyways

[primal timber]

um uhhh uhhhh

[leaden quartz]

well its something

[sharp sierra]

terrain penalties 👎

[limpid mantle]

insignificant ones

does not beat the piercing

[drifting kiln]

genuinely unplayable

[primal timber]

i

i feel like blowing up france

[lone sail]

i wish the ai consulted the player before invading random countries

[primal timber]

when they drop the new update

france is gonna be eyeing the saar

[sharp sierra]

dont redeeem saar

theyre trying to clean the river

it was all black and brown earlier

[limpid mantle]

i think ill be hanged for this

ok its fixed

[primal timber]

i'm more concerned about the tanks you're using

[limpid mantle]

well theyre basic

so a work in progress

[sharp sierra]

😐

[primal timber]

ah yes the

[limpid mantle]

im also playing sheep ai

[primal timber]

pug t-34

[primal timber]

the a-32

[limpid mantle]

so i know i gotta try something new and adapt

or die

[sharp sierra]

well you have more courage than me then

[primal timber]

kid named tank destroyer

[limpid mantle]

im diversifying just in case

[sharp sierra]

what in the world

[primal timber]

you need more planes than that dawg

[limpid mantle]

im trying my best to not civ greed

idk what im missing

i had more than this last game

[primal timber]

take TNO and replace hitler with wilhelm

[lone sail]

ww2 didnt even happen

all of this was puppeted peacefully

except for italy and poland

italy declared war on everyone and i decided to take advantage of it

and poland got invaded by the ussr

[primal timber]

ah yes

the shed

[spring hedge]

rate the map

[primal timber]

looks like china

[spring hedge]

china/10

[ivory hull]

use a howitzer, 2x heavy machine gun

[primal timber]

sending rommel on a

little tour through the benelux

[leaden quartz]

what mod is this genuinley

[primal timber]

same thing i always use

rt56

[sharp sierra]

💀

[leaden quartz]

why are the map and icons different

[primal timber]

thats rbm's

[leaden quartz]

ah

[primal timber]

im gonna prank those guys on liege

now the british guarantee luxembourg but

i have a plan for that

[sharp sierra]

rip whole peruvian army

[cerulean anvil]

Is it just me or is italy winning africa 10 out of 10 times

[leaden quartz]

yeah

thats historical

[sharp sierra]

they do at first

[icy crescent]

Funi Anti-Air.

[sharp sierra]

every time they usually get suez

but they just cant keep up with the allied navy and division spam

[leaden quartz]

nvm mb i thought he meant ethiopia

[sharp sierra]

british always retake it

[leaden quartz]

are there any real tips on defending ethiopia i can never do it as italy

[sharp sierra]

i mean itd be fine if u had enough units

its just not worth it to keep it as an occupied territory

[scenic moon]

That looks so inefficent

[limpid mantle]

its not, generally ww2 was definitely inneficient

[sharp sierra]

ur playing sheeps mod

[leaden quartz]

there is no way u will have enough anything to comp with germany in sheeps i literally max focused tank and air and got rekt as germany

also why are u building transports?

[limpid mantle]

for supply, and future paratrooper operations

last time i played soviet i made extensive use of paratroopers and it benefited me greatly

basically i threw away mountaineers and adopted the VDV

[limpid mantle]

theres nothing a 2 million men layered fallback line cannot fix

[limpid mantle]

where can i find this beautiful pixel mess

[sharp sierra]

wplace

[pearl jackal]

What should i play

[leaden quartz]

make austria hungary with historical ai on

i js did that on accident

and i wanna end it all

[pearl jackal]

I did that on non-historical in my last game

but it bugged and the game forced me into a war with france, czechoslovakia, yugoslavia and romania

[leaden quartz]

most normal austria hungary run:

[pearl jackal]

thx a lot paradox

[pearl jackal]

i demanded transylvania and got it but then for some reason an event made me and germany declare on romania

i didnt even have a choice

😭

[leaden quartz]

this is how many tries it took me before gotterdamerung and i had to be fascist to do it

[pearl jackal]

event:"well, war it is"
me:"WHAT NO?????? I GOT TRANSYLVANIA TF U MEAN WAR IT IS"

[pearl jackal]

wow

i didnt actually form austria-hungary but like who cares :)

i just got austria, hungary and transylvania and i was called austria-hungary yk so yeah idc

[leaden quartz]

yeah i js wanna do it because its like making me angry that i cant

[pearl jackal]

damn

whats a good formable

[leaden quartz]

hre is fire and i had alotta fun w gran columbia

[pearl jackal]

damn

colombia the country with no focus tree?

[leaden quartz]

yeah suprisingly good u could get a south america rework mod if u want i didnt tho

[pearl jackal]

hmm

ok

[sharp sierra]

fighting paraguay is like fighting communist china

[pearl jackal]

i'll get improved generic focus tree

[pearl jackal]

lmao ok

[scenic moon]

Thanks for the ragebait

[sharp sierra]

stupid mega defensible border

[scenic moon]

Germany was pretty much inefficent

[sharp sierra]

with 5 infantry on one tile and crazy country and commander stat buffs

[leaden quartz]

it genuinley took me like a year of sieging their capital as brazil

[pearl jackal]

wow

[scenic moon]

What do u suggest to play first in south america

[leaden quartz]

brazil is mega strong

[scenic moon]

Argentina peru or

[pearl jackal]

time to play colombia ig

non-historical cuz yes

[scenic moon]

Yeah it looks very strong

[sudden kernel]

will the japanese amphibious invade the guangxi clique

[pearl jackal]

dont have trial of allegience 😢

[leaden quartz]

if u go monarchist u can js annex portugal and invade south america n usa doesnt enforce monroe like basically every time

[pearl jackal]

if i get ToA is fourth reich fun

[leaden quartz]

i spilled soda on my keyboard like 3 days ago now my n is sticky

[pearl jackal]

lmao

[scenic moon]

Isnt that bcz america is guarenteeing both agressor and defender?

[leaden quartz]

yes and they also dont historically do the reafirm monroe focus i think

[pearl jackal]

should i go fascist or communist?

[leaden quartz]

i went fascist for justify time and idk if u need guyana but if u do then thats also another reason

[pearl jackal]

u need all of venezuela, panama, ecuador and one state in peru

doesnt sound too fun to invade panama cuz panama canal

[leaden quartz]

nah u dont need the canal

js naval invade they cant stop it

[grizzled yarrow]

guys

[leaden quartz]

btw that state in peru gets annexed by ecuador if they do that war which happens on historical so i would wait to see if that happens

[grizzled yarrow]

which polish focus tree is the best

[pearl jackal]

aw i shouldve done historical

whatever lets hope they fight anyways

[pearl jackal]

when do they usually do the war?

[leaden quartz]

irl was 41 so should be around then

[craggy dove]

assault engineers or armored?

[leaden quartz]

i like poland lithuania

[primal timber]

uh

sure peter

sure

[proud tapir]

i feel like yugoslavia exists in this game just to be bullied by everyone that borders it

[leaden quartz]

sounds abt right

how do u like stop anchuluss

[primal timber]

lets count

1. italy (dalmatia)
2. austria/germany (slovenia)
3. hungary (vojvodina)
4. bulgaria (macedonia)

[proud tapir]

Does Romania have goals against Yugoslavia too?

[primal timber]

the czechs are uhhh

fighting eachother

they lost all their guarantees as far as i can tell

[leaden quartz]

what is happening in ur game is it hist or no

[primal timber]

everything else is historical

[proud tapir]

I might actualy win my first war!! I got absolutely bogged down in Siam until i encircled all the japanese and siamise forces and took control of the mainland

[primal timber]

just not the czechs for whatever reason

[leaden quartz]

didnt u invade the benalux

[primal timber]

ignore the

severe lack of winter war

[proud tapir]

I just hope i can gain air superiority and do sucsessful landings in Japan trough paradrops. Or the US invades them, its mid 1944

[hybrid solstice]

uhm guys

germany just took france

and theres no free france 😱

[primal timber]

i took the bene

not the lux

because luxembourg got guaranteed by the UK last minute

[hybrid solstice]

how does that happen

ive never seen that

[proud tapir]

my armies are so disorganized tho

its chaos

its just one huge Chinese hoard

[primal timber]

so uhhhh

[proud tapir]

good part dont even have commanders

[leaden quartz]

bro i never realized that benelux was a combo of the 3 names

[proud tapir]

wait, i just realized that

wow

i feel stupid

[frail bolt]

German ai sucks now, they lost Königsberg in 1942

[proud tapir]

My ai capitulated the ussr

i just hope the allies can actualy dday them

[primal timber]

i just realized i dont need to justify on the czechs

[leaden quartz]

how

[primal timber]

i dont

i dont think thats gonna hold up all of my 120 divs

chautemps

[sudden wasp]

this in 1942 is crazy

[snow rain]

what mod is this ?

[primal timber]

into pandora's box

[leaden quartz]

road to 56

[snow rain]

since when did they change the division UI ? it looks neat

[terse ether]

i think thats another mod

[leaden quartz]

thats a seperate i think its called rbm

[snow rain]

yup, that's it. Thanks a lot !

[slim nexus]

Is there a mode nowadays where war is the main part?

[snow rain]

wdym
that's hoi4, most mods have war as the central part of the mod

just to cite a few : Hearts of Oak 2, World ablaze, total war, equestria at war etc.

[slim nexus]

I'm talking about a mode like Millennium Dawn but with easier battles, I think I'm having trouble.

[leaden quartz]

novum vexillum is 10x better in like every way so check that out

[snow rain]

the fire rises is a simplified MD

[slim nexus]

thank you man

[hard glade]

What mod is that 👀

Crazy good unit indicators

[terse ether]

novum vexillum is md but easier

but idk if it was updated

[lethal ether]

yes if theyre fascist you can

[leaden quartz]

"yo bro how come u havent done austria hungary as austria":

[slim nexus]

noo problemm

[leaden quartz]

road to 56 with rbm gfx

[terse ether]

oh come on

[primal timber]

do they know

[sudden wasp]

germany

[terse ether]

how are you losing to a germany with no austria or czech

what are your templates

[sudden wasp]

do they know

[leaden quartz]

16 width but theyre literally so unequiped bc its so inbetween the phase where germany is good but its also too early for me too make anything better

[primal timber]

the poles just joined the allies

[hard glade]

Nothing can save England, unless their units were actually home and not stacked in some African tile with 200% attrition

[lethal ether]

what year

[sudden wasp]

hmm

[lethal ether]

?

[sudden wasp]

yes

[terse ether]

germany is never good without austria or czech

[sudden wasp]

chat can usa make a come back

[lethal ether]

so youre saying them getting a few core states makes them magically 100x better?

[sudden wasp]

"yes"

[terse ether]

yes

german power relies on that early expansion

[lone sail]

i just destroyed the soviet union

[lethal ether]

no it dont

[terse ether]

otherwise they're behind everyone else

[sudden wasp]

tno

😭

[lone sail]

no

vanilla

[terse ether]

yes it do

[sudden wasp]

ik

its ajoke

[lone sail]

well

not vanilla

[lethal ether]

whats the logic tho

[lone sail]

reichspakt+

[leaden quartz]

2 were in 39 the one where romania decided to give me backshots is in 41

[terse ether]

its a pretty sizeable industrial boost

and they're weak early on overall

[buoyant flume]

Hmm yes fascist

[lethal ether]

you had time to build a better army i think

[lethal ether]

sure like 25%?

[terse ether]

thats a lot

[inland swan]

Huh? How holding elections during war reduces stability, while delaying them increases it? Makes no sense to me. I think people would be angry if government delays elections

[lethal ether]

it still doesnt make them 100x worse

[leaden quartz]

i dont think so my man power is just non existent

[terse ether]

most democracies tend to hold elections in a case of war

[sudden wasp]

do you guys think im ready for the ussr?

[leaden quartz]

i did intergrate boheim but it was too late

[lethal ether]

krank up your conscription law and 1m field manpower is really all u need

[terse ether]

how would the election and campaigning happen in a state of war

[inland swan]

Okay, makes sense but why does it reduce stab?

[leaden quartz]

normally

unless ur fdr

[inland swan]

And we almost won, there's no bombing on home island or anything

(which I guess game doesn't take into account, that's ok)

[terse ether]

switching government mid war is risky and destabilizing

[lethal ether]

agree

[inland swan]

But it's a bit weird that the only downside to delaying elections is +5 commi support and +5 fascism support. While gives +5 free stab and even 20pp

[sudden wasp]

clivl war as germany mid ww2

trust

[inland swan]

Germany? Elections?

[terse ether]

thats a different thing

[sudden wasp]

[inland swan]

Anyway, delaying it is

[terse ether]

by delaying elections, you’re kinda signaling that democracy is being suspended for the sake of national unity

which the game represents by a drift towards authoritharian ideologies

[primal timber]

my allies are

not doing too well

[sudden wasp]

hmmm

[primal timber]

so they'll be in for a suprise

[leaden quartz]

before anyone asks for the 3rd time its road to 56 with rbm gfx

[primal timber]

here goes nothing

US hasnt joined the allies now

and i hope they dont

why are there just 34 divs in gdynia

[terse ether]

maybe you're attacking in 1942

[primal timber]

jst pulled a

sneak attack

hopefully the weather is nicer today

why didnt hitler encircle half the french army

was he stupid

[leaden quartz]

looking good

[primal timber]

and they

instantly capitulated

i will

do vichy because

i don't want to deal with the colonies

now

clear out the stragglers

[terse ether]

are those soviet heavy tds in dunkirk????

[primal timber]

im not even at war with the soviets

[craggy dove]

will soviets always attack if i dont give up land?

kinda want to deal with allies before soviets

[leaden quartz]

must be nice

but yes

[craggy dove]

arghh

need bessarabia for achievemen ;-;

[primal timber]

its been a week

i have

no idea how the UK only killed 50 of my guys

[inland swan]

[primal timber]

ok well

they really want memel

it seems like

[terse ether]

convoy raids

[primal timber]

theoretically

what would happen if i just gave back memel

because right now

they're justifying on me for memel

ok it did nothing

they'll just take

prussia from me

[terse ether]

why would soviets want memel 😭

[primal timber]

ok we're not

holding up against all of that

im gonna have to

[terse ether]

i think its because you didnt do molotov pact

[primal timber]

give the wizards a call

[primal timber]

well i was gonna blow them up either way

but i didnt think they would be the first ones

[sudden wasp]

not fight with the soviets unli your done with allys

😭

[primal timber]

i blew up france

so i don't ahve to worry about the allies for a moment

but i would

[sudden wasp]

d day

😭

[primal timber]

like it if japan blew up the soviets

actually they have

[sudden wasp]

at least mico the other fronts

[primal timber]

a non-aggro pact with the soviets

[sudden wasp]

italy ai is dumb as rocks

[primal timber]

the

supply situation is gonna be crazy

[sudden wasp]

oof

[primal timber]

the soviets are uh

overstacking a bit

[sudden wasp]

wait unlt you get like a bit away from the cap

its bad for everyone there

[primal timber]

im gonna have to

give my buddy hans a call to summon more german troops

because we're strong

but they're even stronger

most of their army will be in

my front i believe

i ddon't even think japan can blow the soviets up in siberia

they're too busy with china

[buoyant fractal]

union of soviet socialist republics

[tiny tartan]

why is it green

[buoyant fractal]

idk why its green, but they deposed stalin and some other communist took power

[primal timber]

im

buying all nmy oil from venezuela

becuase uncle sam is not looking the friendliest towards me

[inner jewel]

biiiig Lithuania

I got an achievement for it which is cool

[inland swan]

In a peace conference, when two countries want the same change of government in a state, how does this work? One of them still has to back off?

[primal timber]

i think ill

try getting a collab on the soviets if i can

[inland swan]

Why ever not annex, I don't understand. Why AI so dumb (I guess they're trying to go irl way, but srsly even irl, countries who actually contributed, got something out of the peace. In game, they just don't want anything while they freely can expand or at least I dunno, get ships and deman demilitarisation and such

[primal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[terse ether]

what year is it

66 panzer divs is NOT normal

[cloud perch]

you can actually do both in one playthrough

if you win before even exploading again

so one less pain playthrough yippie

[primal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/terry-a-davis-gif-8719402701995334166

i cant help but notice that the soviet divs have

a singular anti-air

[inland swan]

Did I completely skip elections or will I get event about them once I'm at peace?

[grizzled yarrow]

Sob

[primal timber]

i just noticed this

soviets are getting extremely close to getting their justification

[grizzled yarrow]

U playin poland too?

[primal timber]

they day is coming

i don't think its gonna be enough

its barely holding

we can actually

push them back a bit

though we'll have to do it slowly

alright im gonna

upgrade the railways between

there and berlin

i might have to up conscription soon though

[warm otter]

gg

where the hell is italy

[inland swan]

Planning to fight Italy soon and Japan later. Can I get some tips on convoy protection and patrols in the oceans? Will building radat in Gibraltar and having max supremacy around it be enough to at least deal with surface fleets? Italian fleet is like half of mine, should probly only bother about subs

[warm otter]

uhh just spam thousands of cruisers and then defend Gibraltar

[inland swan]

I am not in a hurry, its just 27 nov 1939, can finish refitting my destroyers to have sonars and asw

[warm otter]

might as well airlift it there

[inland swan]

airlift what?

[warm otter]

airlift troops*

or use Corsica from france

[inland swan]

I'm not in a war yet, I can just send them via see

And I have border with Italy mainland now that I counquered Germany

It really shouldn't be any hard but I want to be cautious

Plus there's Malta.
I don't have paratroopers tho and don't want to bother with them yet (My air is decent but a bit weaker than theirs)

I wonder if France will join after I declare war. Probably not

[warm otter]

your colonies can help fight italy

British Burma, the raj

[inland swan]

I'd rather not give them autonomy points for helping tho

[warm otter]

why not?

[inland swan]

Why yes?

[slim nexus]

So I did bunch of Poland game recently, the first one is how it started, the second one is how it ended

[warm otter]

try Romania with the polish alliance

[slim nexus]

I do not have the Dlc for that

[warm otter]

It's base game

[slim nexus]

You mean the focus tree ?

I already did that in 1940, Romania just fell.

[inland swan]

Oh that's mp? I wondered why everyone is against you

[slim nexus]

Holding against the URSS and Germany in the same time feels like hell.

[slim nexus]

Because I am Poland

[snow rain]

why defend on the borders

[slim nexus]

I just took them back because I needed man power. I did actually stop Germany with 2 million kills, the Soviet killed me.

[snow rain]

you shouldn't need to take back those territories for manpower to be fair

just up conscription

[slim nexus]

it was 0 with "_ by requirements".

I'll try again

[inland swan]

But is that mp or sp?

I saw player name on your country window and was like "Huh, never seen that, must be mp"

Oh btw what'll happen to my divs that take manpower from Ethiopia once I reinstall their gov? Disband?

[lost quest]

Polish East Africa

[inland swan]

I still need to fight Japan and those are my solid marines

Which agency section do I need to create to recruit in Japan btw, Asian?

[lost quest]

I would imagine so

[inland swan]

Could possibly be Oceanian, that's nearby too

[lost quest]

“Croikey, gday m8 I’m from Japehn”

[inland swan]

I didn't get the joke but I laughed, it sounds fun

[lost quest]

An agent from Oceania trying to spy in Japan

[inland swan]

Aight

[grizzled yarrow]

How is bro so good as poland 😭

[slim nexus]

Single player , sorry for late response.

[inland swan]

npnp

[limpid mantle]

Can someone tell me if skill level matters for army group marshals
for like initiative

[inland swan]

wiki only mentions army generals

and recon

So most likely no, army group leader skill doesn't matter

[limpid mantle]

then i shouldnt waste my Georgy Zhukov on an army group!

[inland swan]

It depends. Field marshals make great generals, but if he started with a lot of his traits in field marshal column, keep him on group

Initiative is not that important. Raw stats are more imo

And it's random anyway

[limpid mantle]

i think hes better off leading my Shock Army, but i see your point

[inland swan]

Oh he sin't field marshal yet, then yeah, keep him on army

Do promote best generals if you max out on cp tho, they still get extra trait slot. And you can take Offensive Doctrine that will still give them raw +1atk

[limpid mantle]

he becomes marshal eventually?

[inland swan]

By event? I dunno I haven't played USSR yet

[limpid mantle]

oh perfect, ill promote Georgy Zakharov to Marshal of the Red Army

[pearl flume]

Hi

[next mulch]

Hi

[inland swan]

Why? No

Marshal raw stats apply to all armies

don't give it to random lvl 1 generals

[limpid mantle]

yeah dw i found someone better

he had 6 attack

wait

did he?

i forgor

[inland swan]

On promotion generals lose 1 of all stats temporarily

So dont do that in middle of war

[limpid mantle]

sure

[primal timber]

it would be funny if i just encircled minsk

can i just press this button and get a gazillion manpower

i can

free 200k manpower

pranked

[proud tapir]

The US is invading just outside the home Islands. I can finally win against Japan

Please just burn the home Islands already

im tired of fighting in Siberia with no supply

[primal timber]

30 divs

gone

[dusky scroll]

is this good for lategame infantry?

[inland swan]

That a lategame spacemarine?

[dusky scroll]

just to hold frontline

somehow ai always kills my default infantry in late game

[proven rock]

have you guys seen this

[rose siren]

i think that is decent enough

defense is good

[atomic grove]

how many mils u have

[primal timber]

cant help but notice that

one of my railway guns are gone

[dusky scroll]

like 300

[craggy dove]

are there any special projects worth going for as china?

[primal timber]

dear god its

300 angry british men

[proud tapir]

mainland Japan is falling, billions must submit to Chinese influence

[primal timber]

soviets have dealt quite a few casualties to me

but uhh

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-soviet-gulag-happy-stalin-dancing-stalin-gif-22030464

[zinc rune]

crazy comparison

[rose siren]

damn

[zinc rune]

this is how it looks now (the other screenshot is from the start of the invasion

[shut gazelle]

which dlc gives mexico more focusses

[safe wing]

Man the guns

[primal timber]

forgot i had this mod

why do sealion when i can just ask them nicely to surrender

very nice

very nice...

i am

very lucky i peaced out with the brits

[sudden grotto]

How did you get It??

Is It vanilla tho

[safe wing]

It is I think

[primal timber]

what do you mean tannu tuva is a major

[rose siren]

They are the strongest

[proud tapir]

finally

the war with Japan is over

i managed to steal most of Burma from the brits too in the peace deal

Plus siam puppet and taking all of indochina

[primal timber]

can i just put speer in there

for the

omega funny TNO reference

[sudden grotto]

Why White Russia has a thing for cav generals...

[opal nymph]

Speer will make fun buildings

Trust

[sudden grotto]

Like not even One has a infantry trait

[safe wing]

One field marshal does

Neychev

[sudden grotto]

Ye but he Is a Marshall tho

[safe wing]

If im spelling his name right

[safe wing]

True

[primal timber]

make him build a mega reichstag

[sudden grotto]

Volkshalle 🤓

[primal timber]

french?

[sudden grotto]

Lol

@rose siren Imma shoot you rq

[proud tapir]

guess it was easier for the allies to exile hirohito and the entire goverment to Siberia

Now theres two japans

[rose siren]

You always wanna do that

[proud tapir]

but ngl, communist support from my influnce is 42%, i might just coup them and remove them entirely

[rose siren]

But never do

[proud tapir]

Its offical, my first war that i won

im a big boy now

[sudden grotto]

Simply too mercyful to do that 🗣️

[kind vale]

What mod is that

[rose siren]

To weak*

[sudden grotto]

Lovley hoi4 moment, germany producing 1300 rubber

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[rose siren]

dimitry would hate you if you killed me

[sudden grotto]

Facts

[rose siren]

😂😂

[pliant basin]

i love hoi4

[safe wing]

You know who else loves hoi4?

[pliant basin]

it must be big al the fleet expert

[uncut pollen]

me!

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-you-know-who-else-my-mom-regular-show-funny-gif-9101122073397073314

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-scream-scream-if-you-love-scream-if-you-love-hearts-of-iron-4-hearts-of-iron-4-hoi4-gif-2835444177999722035

[pliant basin]

call me crazy but i love fleet and intelligence agencies

[safe wing]

Same

[pliant basin]

especially intelligence agencies

i did a game where i used that to conquer spain, yugoslavia and turkey

[rose siren]

muscle man lmao

[pliant basin]

this is me btw

[safe wing]

Fun fact I watched the series premiere

And was hooked

[limpid mantle]

my Stavka!

[rose siren]

isnt there coming a second part?

[safe wing]

Same with adventure time too which came out earlier in the same year

[rose siren]

also a good serie

[proud tapir]

Only one thing thats left before i try to topple the axis, Tibet.

[safe wing]

The cartoon network renaissance of 2010

[silent root]

45k to 1m

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/tibet-flag-windy-gif-12835876

[safe wing]

After they got rid of the live action crap from 2007-2009

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-amy-poehler-parks-and-rec-i-like-it-impressed-gif-15851604278763752182

[safe wing]

NGL 2009-2014 where my favorite years

My pax romana if you will

It was the best time to be a child and a tween

[rose siren]

indeed

[rose siren]

but now the new series that come out, bro what are those....

[inland swan]

These are small fighters right? C.200 is 1940.
I only have 635 small fighters of which 100 are still inter-war. I'll have 1940 small frame in about half a year (Gonna look to start war on Italy by that time and I doubt someone will join me except for useless subjects). I assume I just kill their navy, settle on yellow air and push push push with shore bombardment (I have Italian-Austrian border after finishing Germany)?

[safe wing]

Tween means between teenager and kid its an American term

[rose siren]

yea i know what it means

[safe wing]

Oh

[inland swan]

Afaik, cv bombers get a huge bonus while on carrier, but cv fighers don't?

[safe wing]

But yeah that was the era I got into Minecraft

Starting with the Xbox360

[rose siren]

i never had that sadly

i had the wij

[safe wing]

Good console probably the last great gen of console alongside the ps3 and wii

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/nintendo-wii-wii-remote-video-game-controllers-nintendo-wii-gif-17639319

[safe wing]

The latter of which I had

I have a wii, ps2, and xbox 360 and 1

[rose siren]

i only had wii and nintendo 3ds

[inland swan]

Only ever had a ps1 XD
PC master race

[rose siren]

and a little computer to watch films on cd's lol