tech-support

[minor flax]

also what happend with versions

did they added more numbers

[minor flax]

ok. launch game. open console for "debug" command

i wanna see id for that conscription

or at least how it named in english

ah

ok

this is just limited conscription

[winter veldt]

how to open console

[minor flax]

not needed

i already understood what icon missed

[minor flax]

tilda key ~

moi fraincais camarade

[winter veldt]

ah c'est chouette

[minor flax]

can you check files in steam

[winter veldt]

where?

[minor flax]

rigth click on game in library, properties, local files and verify them

[winter veldt]

all?

[minor flax]

no

in steam

or you can check entire folder by yourself?

[novel zephyr]

I have a mod with negative file size

[minor flax]

doesnt matter

[novel zephyr]

I deleted an incorrect descriptor file

The mod is not launching properly

It launches into vanilla

[minor flax]

verifier jeu

[minor flax]

yes

hm

what, does it says 200 files invalid?

[winter veldt]

[minor flax]

does it loading?

say something

i have all night

[winter veldt]

my game take his time

[minor flax]

at least you have no quadribazillions mods, or they would be checked too

[inland tapir]

hi, why?

[minor flax]

licence?

[inland tapir]

wdym?

[minor flax]

forget

what you tried here

[winter veldt]

bruh

[minor flax]

nah dude

reinstall game

[winter veldt]

so i must uninstall and then reinstall

[minor flax]

yes//

idk how files got so corrupted

[winter veldt]

[minor flax]

to trashcan

[winter veldt]

no problem finally

it uninstalled and I started the download

[minor flax]

its will not give me back my 4600 hours

[winter veldt]

so this is a problem?

[minor flax]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH KURWAAAA

[winter veldt]

??

[minor flax]

you wanna be in beta test?

if no, remove it

[winter veldt]

ok

i remove

[minor flax]

click option no in beta versions

after game is installed

[winter veldt]

i made it already

[minor flax]

taskmanager

open it

[ancient orbit]

this is an old photo, bu the problem is the same

[minor flax]

hm

ok

close all these

go to games files

and open launcher installator

ah wait

you are not new player

[ancient orbit]

cant find that

[minor flax]

i guess i can send you mine?

[ancient orbit]

what?

[minor flax]

launcher installer

damn

[ancient orbit]

ok

[minor flax]

its 120 mbs

server is not boosted

[ancient orbit]

[inland tapir]

maybe do what the pop-up sais?

[ancient orbit]

idk what else is installing

[minor flax]

does it constantly appear/

and you lack installer file

[ancient orbit]

it appears every time i try to launch the launcher

[minor flax]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HbfKUlK9UX9fCmyZ4HCAhSsy2VrU9pG7/view?usp=sharing

ok here,

[ancient orbit]

same problem

[minor flax]

i hope you finally can install this goddam porodox launcher

i edited settings

[ancient orbit]

edited settings?

[minor flax]

google doc access

it works?

[ancient orbit]

no

[minor flax]

try again

[inland tapir]

when I have something running that is not supposed to, I restart my computer

[minor flax]

well

that not how it supposed to work

[ancient orbit]

I'm gonna attempt a restart real quick

[winter veldt]

thank you very much @minor flax

[ancient orbit]

did not work

[minor flax]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HbfKUlK9UX9fCmyZ4HCAhSsy2VrU9pG7/view?usp=sharing

does link works?

[ancient orbit]

no

[minor flax]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X_HH20E4gu22FiIuATCoZoRljNrM820y?usp=sharing

now?

[ancient orbit]

nope

[minor flax]

there is no tumbnails anyway

file too big to show up in google

maybe links here doesnt work at all?

ill dm you

[magic lily]

I subscribed to a bunch of hoi4 mods but for some reason the launcher isn't installing them

steam tells me that they can't synchronize their cloud system

[minor flax]

[magic lily]

i chose the option of verifying integrity of game files

i doubt it'll work

or maybe it will

[ancient orbit]

is the up-to-date version of the game "Bolivar v1.14.5.0917 (d40a)"

[minor flax]

i think steam cloud works separately

[magic lily]

i verified integrity of files and nothing came out of it

all files are fine

steam is validating the game's files now tho

[minor flax]

yes

[ancient orbit]

ok good

[magic lily]

if it wasn't steam would've told me

[minor flax]

patchnotes on forums?

wiki?

[magic lily]

?

[minor flax]

where to read patchnotes

[magic lily]

idk

[minor flax]

[magic lily]

MY SUBSCRIPTION LAUNCHER IS WORKING NOW

YAY

[minor flax]

IF I EVER CARED

[ancient orbit]

okay now I have a new problem

It says i can't get achievements but i have no mods enabled

[minor flax]

did you used console

ever

[ancient orbit]

wdym?

[minor flax]

so no

[ancient orbit]

yea...no

[minor flax]

i think you need clear cache in documents

[magic lily]

bad for you

[ancient orbit]

cache is empty

[minor flax]

in another hand...maybe its best to not break it

who need these achievements

[ancient orbit]

no

[minor flax]

then sorry, im out

[ancient orbit]

Help

[plush barn]

is anyone else having any trouble with the website not working for resting your password

[steady sigil]

easy

go to the hearts of iron game in your library and click on workshop

hover over browse and click subscribed items

then unsubscribe from all

i guess i was a bit late

[ancient orbit]

did not work

[reef vault]

Im experiencing constant crashes with the same error - exception access violation, these issues seemed to get worse after I updated my bios. Does anyone have any thoughts

[steady sigil]

why did you update your bios

[reef vault]

Because my game was crashing constantly and after a million attempts at troubleshooting that was one solution presented

[steady sigil]

ok do this:

then click on the playset you just made

click play

[steady sigil]

that is the worst thing you could possibly do

can your computer run hoi4?

[reef vault]

Yes

[steady sigil]

what version of windows are you using?

[reef vault]

Windows 11, i9 13900kf, 4070 TI

[steady sigil]

ok

you have reinstalled?

[reef vault]

I believe the issue is the cpu after lots of research

Yea

[steady sigil]

you have deleted the game folder completely?

[reef vault]

I did a fresh windows installed and the problem persisted

[steady sigil]

ok

do you have overheating issues?

are you willing to check if you do?

[reef vault]

As far as I know, no

But

[steady sigil]

download hwinfo64

and check your cpu temperature

[steady sigil]

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[ancient orbit]

I’ll try when I get home

[reef vault]

I just found this article

[steady sigil]

hm

[reef vault]

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/12bybl5/something_wrong_with_13900k/ and this

[steady sigil]

you can download the portable version for 32/64 bit

[steady sigil]

alot of high end cpu's overheat

[reef vault]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/victoria-3-crash-to-desktop-on-speed.1572554/

[steady sigil]

especially when you are just cooling with a fan

[reef vault]

I have liquid cooling

[steady sigil]

hm thats strange

then it may be an issue with your cpu?

[reef vault]

Yeah, that’s what all signs are pointing to

Well, an interaction between the motherboard cpu and certain games

It may not be a faulty cpu more of a faulty setting

[steady sigil]

yeah

im going to direct you to a server that can try to help

they are some smart guys

helped me a bit

i sent it to your dm's.

[reef vault]

Thx

[fringe compass]

Yo guys i have a rtx 4090 and hoi4 still kinda has it's moments where it only gets 20fps - vsync is off - how do i fix it?

[ancient orbit]

did not work

[minor pond]

does anyone know why my game keeps crashing as i'm loading it?

it says i have cloud status problems but yet it does not let me refresh it or fix it, any ideas?

[minor pond]

nah

[brittle hawk]

Hello, i tried making my "own" mod, but it's not even loading into the game. I checked if i had the correct path and everything. Other mods work just fine. Any ideas as of what could be wrong? I also sent the code to someone on this server and the mod worked for them, so it's definitely me-sided issue.

[vestal totem]

Try #modding

[brittle hawk]

Already did

I figured it more likely a tech issue than the mod itself

since it works for others

[vestal totem]

Ask again there

Rarely anyone checks here

[brittle hawk]

Okay then

[vestal totem]

<@&916727924093239336>

[ancient orbit]

‘

[white glacier]

hi, i got a question . im tryina play with a friend and we got sam eexact mods and same version , the numbers between the brackewts are different tho and when we try to play with it eachother it says host has diff version

[short isle]

I can't access Steam. Help

[heady pike]

uhm

[heady pike]

there are 2 things that may be going on

your parents do not want you on steam

you're too young for steam

and also this isn't a hoi4 thing this is just kaspersky safe kids

but try pausing it or smthing

or just ask for permission

[short isle]

I am 16 years old

[heady pike]

well we'll rule that out

[stone marten]

maybe a connection issue loose contant etc.

[reef vault]

I actually figured it out, it’s my cpu, intel messed up

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/is-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected

[stone marten]

I have 13900k also, mine was crashing in visual studio when compiling big projects. I have a defect arctic liquid cooler and sent to RMA. After putting cpu cooler fan during RMA everything went normal. It's super easy to check temps while gaming.

[reef vault]

The problem with the settings is that they will cause your cpu to overheat no?

[pine canyon]

are there any faster coup mods that actually work

[crystal sorrel]

im getting crashed anyone knows issue ?

• i annex all it didn't crash

[minor pond]

can anyone help? I just downloaded hoi4 yesterday and my game keeps crashing on the startup

[gentle nova]

maybe your pc cant help it

i mean

handle it]

[ancient orbit]

Help

[primal robin]

close game, go to launcher -> game settings -> clear cache / user directory or whatever that option is near the bottom

[ancient orbit]

is this what it looks like when it is empty?

or is that just it loading?

[primal robin]

good question, probably empty tho. I'd close everything and do a Verify Files on steam at that point

if that doesn't work, uninstall / reinstall

[ancient orbit]

how do i check files on Steam?

[primal robin]

right click on hoi4 in steam -> properties -> installed files -> Verify Integrity button

[ancient orbit]

did not work. Tried unistalling and reinstalling it but that didn't work either

[primal robin]

that's about all I've got, usually you get that problem when you've got modified files somewhere, and clearing user directory + wiping all the files usually fixes it

[ancient orbit]

that's fine. Thanks for the help

[ancient orbit]

,

[ancient orbit]

should I delete the launcher cache?

[minor flax]

did you try to launch road to 56?

[minor flax]

whats your pc specs

[young hull]

Mods are not being downloaded for some reason. Any ideas? It used to work normaly

[minor pond]

can anyone please help i downloaded hoi4 the other day and the game keeps crashing on the startup screen how can i fix this?

[brittle hawk]

Hello, i fixed one problem and another one popped up. It seems that i am not able to load local mod, but i can upload it (do the changes blindly) to steam, sub to it and load it as a workshop. Any ideas how to fix it? I'd like to progress faster :D

[ancient orbit]

.

can someone help me with this

<@&916727924093239336>

[wraith idol]

Something up with the cache?

Or maybe the login?

[ancient orbit]

I LOG in

trust

also can u reply

i need notification

also whats a cache

[ancient orbit]

this thing is so annoying

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS THING

i got the game on steam

i just opened paradox manually

[ember rock]

Cant load millenium dawn.... Opened crash report and the crash logs has nothing in it.. anybody help? Tried validating mod files, it doesnt have any corruption. I could launch vanilla and kaiserreich but not MD. Can anybody help?

Pic #1: are my launch settings
Pic #2: is where i launch the game, and is n the loading screen before it crashed.

[ancient orbit]

<@&916727924093239336> I can't get achievements because of "modified game" but I don't even have any mods

[next fjord]

1. Verify your file integrity
2. If 1 doesn't work, do the steps in the first pinned message of this channel

[vestal totem]

Whats ur checksum

[ancient orbit]

I know what you're talking about, but how do I find that?

[young perch]

hey how to add images to my mod description? (smth like this)

[vestal totem]

Play the game

Main screen

The singleplayer multiplayer selection

At the bottom

(xxxx)

[ancient orbit]

Bolivar v1.14.5.0917 (0950) S

[scarlet tartan]

How to fix?

[plucky condor]

Hello everyone ! Recently, my friend bought HOI4, but he's stuck on Paradox launcher. When my friend launches hoi4, the Paradox launcher launches first. Then my friend connects his account, and then there is a window that opens and says "Please wait". He is stuck on this window, he has already tried to uninstall then reinstall the game, disconnect and reconnect his account, but nothing works. Do you know how to solve the problem ?

[ember rock]

<@&916727924093239336>

[whole smelt]

Launcher might be bugged. Reinstalling it might fix it

[whole smelt]

Tried reinstalling the mod?

[whole smelt]

It should just be one of the buttons to add an image whenever you made the description

[ember rock]

Yes

[whole smelt]

And its compatible with the latest patch?

[young perch]

there isn't any button

[lime quarry]

How can I get hoi4 to run better. Idk any of my specs tho.

[tepid bough]

You can get the simplified maps mod

That will make it a bit better

[knotty portal]

I have a weird bug with hoi4 where my keyboard randomly stops working when playing (and not just for hoi - even windows keybinds like alt tabbing dont work)

[heady pike]

maybe

your keyboard

isn't plugged in

/charged

[cursive tide]

i just got my computer upgraded, since then this keep popping up everytime i wanna play. how do i fix it?

[subtle basalt]

how do DLCs in MP work, does everyone have to have it or is it just the host?

[orchid crystal]

Just the host

[ember rock]

Yupp, theres no yellow triangle beside the play button so it has to be right

[dim kindle]

try put the game folder to folder Programx86 in C drive, it works for me

[past pewter]

i started a game as spain and went the carlist path, i reformed iberia and on my latest save i noticed it added "_temp" at the end and i ended up ignoring it, now my save is weird and i dont have a leader, my focus tree was reset, and my flag and country name was reverted, does anyone know whats happening

[past pewter]

btw the saves without "temp" in them are also broken

game crashes if i play it with continue button also

[minor flax]

vc++ redistributable and framenetwork , install them from official microsoft site

[tiny plinth]

my game keeps crashing every time i defeat yugoslavia as germany, and wanting to click on a state. im on ironman mode fixed it by waiting a few days to capitulate them

[frozen nymph]

honest opinion of this map (i dont know how to mod yet just making a concept)

[heady pike]

certainly interesting

[turbid kelp]

hello, my game crashes whenever i open the details of a divison, here the error log, can anyone help?

[sonic vigil]

Playing as UK noticed that when upgrade the Fairey Gordon Interwar CAS to Hector basic Small Airframe. It doesn't replace the interwar plane and just stockpiles Hector and doesn't then to reforce missing aircraft with Hector even when you manual decommission the interwar line. So just having sell or the interwar planes and start from scratch with hectors

[lunar widget]

If I delete HOI4 would all the playsets be there or would I have to recreate them?

[minor flax]

no, they stored separatly

in Documents/Hearts of Iron/

[empty forge]

.

[young perch]

could someone help me? i have no mods enabled i had checked integity of files and i tried cleaning user directory

[fair sage]

Could you send the error.log?

[young perch]

where i can find it?

[fair sage]

In the Documents in the logs folder

Or more completely: Documents->Paradox Interactive->Hearts of Iron IV->logs

[fair sage]

error, there it is. The fourth File is what I am interested in

[fair sage]

Okay, the last four are basegame Errors, they are always present. The first six are weird, because you said you have no mods active, but maybe its the Launcher complaining, regardless of what the Game tries. But those two in the middle, the localisation Files is likely what shoots it down.
But it is weird. Typically Localisation doesn't fail that violently and the Integritycheck should have caught and fixed that.

Sooooo. Doublecheck, that no mods are active (unsubscribe on Steam, if need be), you can try validating again (maybe something failed there in a weird way) and if that both STILL fails, I can send you correct Versions of the broken Files directly.

[young perch]

there is no mods active and also validating said everyting is fine

i just probably deleted something i shoudln't during moding

[fair sage]

Alright, looking into it a bit more, I believe something went wrong with a recent Update or something. The broken Localisations are for the state of Holsten and two Strategic Regions in South America. Both were added fairly recently. and both are slightly different to ordinary Localisationdeclarations, as with those ones no Number (0 or 1) follows the ":" (if that means anything to you)

And don't worry about accidental Deletions. Thanks to Experience I can say, Validation tends to catch that.

Well, if you know a bit about Modding, that makes it easier: Try going to those Files, finding said broken (?) Localisations and add a 0. Basically as an Experiment

[young perch]

ok

wait

[novel pike]

ok so i got my folders all in the same mod folder, and i made a country_event in my focus script, but then it says "invalid event id: iraqi.1"

is there something missing?

can my focus script not find my event script?

[young perch]

like that?

[fair sage]

Oh there is so many Ways for that specific Error to occur. Traditionally this is a consequence of errors in the Eventfile itself. You have an error.log to show?
Also I would put that in #modding, but not entirely sure

[novel pike]

yes i do

its quite long idk why

im only messing with iraq stuff

nothing else

[young perch]

changed it and still the same error

[fair sage]

Yeah, this is exactly what I am just talking about in the Modding Channel 😅 Some Errors are called ... repeatedly. This'll take a hot second to dig through.

[novel pike]

ah

[fair sage]

Good. While it was my best guess, it would also have blocked Achievement, which could by annoying. Let's see....

@novel pike Are you perchance doing something with Game-Rules or something? This very much looks like you have ripped out good Chuncks of the Code and now the Game is effectively screaming. Uuuuuummmm. Yeah your Issue could come from literally so many Places. And more frustratingly the only event-related error seems to be just what you came here to fix: [03:51:38][1936.01.01.12][effectbase.cpp:730]: *Tried to trigger non-existant event: wtt_iraq
Yeah.... This... I hope you are not to deep into your Mod, because my suggestion is to start a new one and really only overwriting the Files, which you need overwritten.

[novel pike]

damn it

i have no clue why my game is making so many errors

[novel pike]

i dont think ive ever messed with the core game files

i should probably validate them

[young perch]

so what should i do now?

[fair sage]

Also, other weird stuff. The event Error comes four Minutes, before a focustree-error, but the focustree-errors should pop on startup and events during running, so how does that work out? Yeah validating might be a good shout

[novel pike]

jeez

alr

[fair sage]

Good Question. ....um Let's try giving it what it wants. In the broken Localisation Codelines, remove the space betwen ":" and the " itself. The error.log does say " is what it expects, so let's try that.

[young perch]

still the same

[fair sage]

...

[young perch]

i shut down the steam and tried in debug mode

[fair sage]

And?

[young perch]

i opened nudge

[fair sage]

Excuse me, whaaaaaaat?
That isn't even in the error.log, though it totally should be!
Also when does the Game crash? On gamestart or what?

[novel pike]

alr well i deleted the entire mod

gonna retry again now

[fair sage]

I ... hope you kept the Modfiles you created?
Hope you didn't misunderstand my Suggestion. I meant that you get a new Mod and add your old one basically file by file.

[novel pike]

welp too late now

fresh start

[fair sage]

Also, whot?
Then ... how do you get into nudge? Does Debug somehow circumvent the Crash? What does it mean?

[young perch]

when im on debug

[fair sage]

I mean. On one hand... sorry. On the other Good Luck?

[novel pike]

no its ok

[young perch]

i can open de game

[fair sage]

Huh. You learn something new every day.
No map definition crash - If the map is edited, there's a possibility for errors to appear. Any map-related errors will crash the game when loading with a message saying 'Some errors are present in the map defition[sic] and have been logged to error.log'. If debug mode is on, the game will continue to load properly. The map definition occurs when there is any error containing MAP_ERROR within the error log after loading into a country, as certain map errors do not get logged yet when the debug launch option opens the log during the main menu loading.

Is the error.log now changed?

[fair sage]

Fancy! alr, now let me at er'

Yeah... There is some problems with the Map here. Most definitely. So the Errors causing the Crash WEREN'T added to the error.log. How nice

[young perch]

yeah

i tried adding state

[fair sage]

So you modded using the Basefiles?
Regardless, this seems to be our culprit.

[young perch]

no

i made new mod

[fair sage]

Huh. But I thought you deactivated the Mods?

[young perch]

i did

this is that mod

[fair sage]

Regardless of the Mystery of why in all Things unholy it seems to have an Effect DESPITE being inactive, I would say, let's fix the Errors in that Mod and go from there.

[young perch]

wouldn't that be easier if you give me this folder?

in history

and i would copy it

[fair sage]

I could. (If Discord allows Folders of that size?)
I can also just send the Files I see are broken, if the whole Folder is to large. I hope you have your DMs open?

[young perch]

yeah

[novel pike]

[

bruh

[fair sage]

oh. Oh boi.

[novel pike]

tf is wrong with my game

[fair sage]

actually. That Is completely reasonable for an error.log

[novel pike]

ignroe the IRQ stuff

thats fine

im just starting to make it

so does it usually have these errors?

[fair sage]

First one is defacto irrelevant. Next three are always present in the current Version. And... I just spotted the BLT_scripted Errors. Those are not typical I believe.

[novel pike]

hm

how would i fix that then

[fair sage]

Looking into it...

Are you doing something with scripted effects? Cause if not... Thats weird

[novel pike]

nope

no mods, no dlcs enabled

pure vanilla except

the mod

[fair sage]

... right. Could you send a quick picture of your common Folder? Just from Explorerview will do

[novel pike]

maybe back then i was stupid and putu something in the game files

idk

alr

[fair sage]

So you just copy from Vanilla?
... actually tbs, is that Vanilla or your mod?

[novel pike]

oh no thats my main hoi4 game common

which one did you want to see

[fair sage]

Oh, sorry, I did mean the common from your mod.

[novel pike]

ah

[fair sage]

And you are certain, you didn't change the Files mentioned in the Error.log?

[novel pike]

im not certain

i couldve a long time ago

but i didnt mess with em now

[fair sage]

ummm.. Check the file in your game_rules Folder. Or send it over, if it isn't empty or obviously changed

[novel pike]

k

where is it located?

[fair sage]

in the common->game_rules the file

[novel pike]

k

[fair sage]

So, that is fine. And the error is wrong: game rule LIT_ai_behavior does not exist. But weird that it only triggers for Estonia and Lithuania

[novel pike]

hm

[fair sage]

So it is only Estonia and Lithuania, because for those there are modifications to their Chances in potential Civil Wars on historical. Latvia doesn't have that. Could I see the BLT_scripted_effects file?

[novel pike]

where is that

[fair sage]

common -> scripted_effects

[fair sage]

Nah, that's also not our Target. And validating has been tried?

[novel pike]

yep

[fair sage]

grand.
So, here's the Situation. The Game is annoyed, because in a pre-game Check whether everything is properly coded, it comes to the conclusion, that it can't run certain Triggers in the scripted_effects file I had you send. Why? Because the Condition they check doesn't exist (at least it claims as much). This is confusing, because both the File calling the Triggercheck, as well as the File creating the Condition are present and ordinary. No further Files should be involved in that, as far as I can see. And least of all some Focustree File for Iraq.

There are two Things I want you check, not because they might be solutions, more additional Info that might help somehow.

1. Do these Errors occur, if your Mod isn't active?
2. What does the error.log look like, if you launch the game in Debug mode right from the start?

[novel pike]

alr

ill test with no mod first

[07:14:18][no_game_date][dlc.cpp:227]: Invalid supported_version in file: mod/ugc_1287402890.mod line: 9
[07:14:26][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:57]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "SOV_modern_armor_entity", associated with SOV modern_tank_chassis
[07:14:26][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:57]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "SOV_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with SOV super_heavy_tank_chassis
[07:14:26][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:57]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "FRA_light_armor_2_entity", associated with FRA light_tank_chassis_3
[07:14:33][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9350]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:77: has_game_rule: game rule LIT_ai_behavior does not exist
[07:14:33][no_game_date][trigger.cpp:114]: Trigger failed to validate: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:77: has_game_rule
[07:14:33][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9350]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:83: has_game_rule: game rule LIT_ai_behavior does not exist
[07:14:33][no_game_date][trigger.cpp:114]: Trigger failed to validate: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:83: has_game_rule
[07:14:33][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9350]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:213: has_game_rule: game rule EST_ai_behavior does not exist
[07:14:33][no_game_date][trigger.cpp:114]: Trigger failed to validate: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:213: has_game_rule
[07:14:33][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9350]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:219: has_game_rule: game rule EST_ai_behavior does not exist
[07:14:33][no_game_date][trigger.cpp:114]: Trigger failed to validate: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:219: has_game_rule

oof

no mod

in dev mode

startup

[fair sage]

Well, at least that's something. Hang on, let me check if those could be currently active Errors (doubt it, but you never know)
I fail to recall to these actually crash anything or cause Issues?

[novel pike]

alr

nope

i dont think

it did crash once

but idk if it was because of the errors

its fine when i play normally

[fair sage]

Then maybe you'll have to live with it. Maybe throw into a proper Bugreport forum and call it a day

[novel pike]

eh

ok

how do i do that

nvm

ill figure it out

thanks for ur help

[fair sage]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/bug-reporting-guidelines-on-how-to-write-a-bug-report.1573501/

np

[novel pike]

btw

how would i get the focus script

to know my events script

to like actually communicate with it

[fair sage]

Alright for that I think we can safely move to the #modding Channel. I think this one is supposed to be for Issues with basegame anyway, whoops.

[novel pike]

alr

[mental ibex]

Hi guys I did not play for some time and now I experience some performance issue, picture stutter when I zoom out and move camera fast left and right. I have amd 6650xt

[bronze robin]

are you o. 5 speed

[mental ibex]

yes. But I did not have proplems earlier

[bronze robin]

How late are you into the game

[mental ibex]

From first day, that is weird

[tepid spoke]

Both of our games are at the most recent update but we both keep getting this (we also have same mods enabled)

[primal robin]

open up the game with a full vanilla playset, no mods, and check what your checksums are at the very bottom of your main menu. It should be 'd40a' for both of you. If one of you doesn't have that on full vanilla, that person has some modified game files and should do a Verify Files in steam and then do a Clear User Directory under Game Settings in the Paradox Launcher

[tepid spoke]

thank u

[tepid spoke]

Mine says fe36 even after doing clear user directory and verifying files

[honest sage]

i am loosing my sanity due to this (i have been trying to fix it for months). when i play some mods, that change the map it all breaks down and looking like this

[primal robin]

recommend reinstalling

[fair sage]

Fascinating. It looks like the Textures are not properly loaded. Not my Area of Expertise though, sadly, so I can only doing basic Investigation. Do any of the Mods on their own cause this?

[tepid spoke]

😭 5 years to install 6 gigs

[primal robin]

rest in pepperonis

[honest sage]

well, some do some not, TNO does not make it break, but TWR does

vanilia works perfectly tho

[fair sage]

So could it just be an Issue of the mods themselves? Have you informed the relevant Devs/checked if some did a report to them?
To be safe: Does it need a certain Combination of Mods or will say TWR and nothing else present cause this?

[honest sage]

it doesnt need any combination, its just some of the mods themselfs break, there are more mods breaking then TWR

like Der Bruderkrieg or darkest hour

[fair sage]

Huh. Shot in the Dark, but this might be because those Mods are not compatible with modern Version (Don't know it that claim is true, but is the only possible common Thread, which seems logical to me atm)

[honest sage]

but idk if anybody else has this problem, but i will try to run it on the older version

[honest sage]

it works at Barbarossa version, but do you know if its possible to fix this in newer versions?

also thanks

[fair sage]

... Wait for either the original Devs to fix it or for someone to make an independent fix (might have happened already, so you could check for that)
I suspect, that somehow the Grapicchanges those mods made clashes with something in the Update (though it would take some time to figure out what and again, not my Forté) Patience is a virture in this Situation.

[honest sage]

alr thanks, you saved my hoi4 addiction

[fair sage]

😅 😉 👍

[astral flame]

guys im getting 197k ping while playing with europeans

not 300k

guys please help

[fair sage]

5 Min+ Ping? Phew. Thats some lag. I am honestly surprised, this isn't considerd a Desync.

How is rest of your Internet doing?

[astral flame]

perfect

im in hongkong

while they are in croatia

btw

[fair sage]

Well I am in Germany, so obv. Communication with Europe itself at least works

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/ping-problems-in-multiplayer.1549559/post-28734349 my first find

[astral flame]

ok

[fair sage]

Well, I was more refferring to Arheo's Answer, but if you found that to be an answer for you, all the more Power to you.
I guess have a different Person host and see what happens? A cursory Glance says this worked for some.

[astral flame]

ok

[hearty mountain]

why does my game autosave every 7 days although in the settings ive put it to never autosave? my game freezes for 1 or 2 seconds every week

[fair sage]

I have noticed similar occurences, while playing Ironman Mode. Are you playing on Ironman?

[hearty mountain]

yes

[fair sage]

Yeah, so to prevent creative cheating, Ironman effectively Autosaves all the time. I don't know the Mechanics, by which it does this, but even force closing the Application fails to yield any notable "Back in time" Situations.
So, my current Hypothesis would be, it makes partial saves describing changes to the full autosaves and to keep the filled Data managable occasionally replaces this autosave+Modifications with a new autosave. Regardless of the Validity of this Theory, Ironman autosaves and you can't do anything bout that.

[thorny ice]

Since when was there a 6month dlc subscription option

[thorny ice]

You can still cheat on Ironman though

[fair sage]

I mean, yeah, if you try hard enough, certain measures are effective. But I feel it is enough anticheat to keep the opportunists out, so thats good enough for Steamachievement Statistics (the only Area I sorta kinda care, that cheating is not rampant, so I can see of which Achievements I can be more proud 😅 )

[hearty mountain]

so do i just have to deal with the freezing unless i disable ironman?

[thorny ice]

Yeah I like the statistics as well 😂

[fair sage]

As far as I can help you, yea. Sorry

[near wagon]

My game is going at 1940 speeds in 1936 I only have two mods on rt56 and fps map

[fair sage]

The Main source of Lag is typically Divisioncount and AI. I'm gonna assume, neither are changed all that much?
Maybe some Memoryleak in rt56? Are the speeds better/normal without mods?
(Also nice Profilepic, fellow camp enjoyer 😝 )

[near wagon]

It's also been slow without mods and with just fps map (also nice to see a camp camp fan here)

[fair sage]

Hmm. To go through the classic Issue-list, is your PC decent enough? Or more accurately, is this Lag a more recent occurence? Any optionchanges you potentially did, like vsync or something?

[near wagon]

My pc is good and the lag has been an off and on thing but it has been slow for awhile now

Also in an attempt to speed it up i turned off vsync

[fair sage]

Have these Lag peaks and valley been correlated with Updates/DLC/similar? Programs typically don't drastically change their perfomance Characteristics without reason, especially not back and forth.

[near wagon]

Not really

[fair sage]

SP or MP?
Does such variable Lag occur in other Programs you use (effectively asking, whether an outside Factor, like local Temperature might affect the Performance of your PC)?

[near wagon]

Sp

[fair sage]

So that throws Ping out...

Okay, two more avenues of Attack I found, were the following: Check, if your Graphics Driver is up to date (though that should correlate with Updates, hmm) and verify Integrity of the Files

[near wagon]

Alright

[near wagon]

Alright the integrity of the files have been checked and the graphics driver is up to date

[fair sage]

Oookay. Can you describe, what form the Lag takes? Is the Simulation running slow, are there Spikes in intervals, is it unresponsive, that sort of stuff.

[near wagon]

Simulation running slow

Takes me about 1 hour to finish a year

Without smoothing off

[novel pike]

my friends have d40a but i have 2f96, i disabled all my mods fully vanilla like them but i want d40a

[fair sage]

So, the culprit is likely on the CPU side (I think).
Thats Divisions as the Big Boi, then AI, then a lot of smaller Stuff.
Any notable Factors you observe there?
Try some Optimazation Mods, which reduce the Number of Nations/Divisions. There are a Ton out there and if that somehow is the problem, it would probably be testable like this. You can also check the Resourcemonitor of your Task Manager to see how much of your CPU is being used (and if Hoi is the limiting factor there as well.)

[near wagon]

Alright

I tried the spot optimization mod but it wasn't in the right version

I found the culprit

It's something call altruistic which isn't related to hoi4

[fair sage]

huh. Well shut that down and tere u go 😉
(I have no Idea, what that Program is, so maybe do some minor Research beforehand, but yeah)

[near wagon]

I shut it down

And now it's fast tysm

Your now one of my favorite people

[fair sage]

I would fetch an antivirus. https://de.minitool.com/nachrichten/altruistics.html

[near wagon]

Oh alright

[fair sage]

Ooops, just spotted, that is German. Point stands, thats a virus

[near wagon]

Yeah

[novel pike]

hel

[fair sage]

have you checked, whether you are debug mode or one of you is in the open beta?

[novel pike]

hmm

i have been in debug mode

fo making mods

but i launched it in the launcher

[fair sage]

Yup, d40a is mine as well. No mods, not Debug, open_beta

[novel pike]

how can i tun off debug

[fair sage]

The same way you turn it on. Steam->Properties

[novel pike]

hm

ok

well

[fair sage]

Are you in the open beta?

[novel pike]

no

[fair sage]

Well, your Friends are.
I know that, because I am in the open beta and my checksum is d40a

[novel pike]

tf

ok

[fair sage]

I will be mightily surprised, if this isn't it. (and letting you know that, so you can also be amused, If i am wrong)

[novel pike]

I put it in open beta

Still 2f96

[fair sage]

Well, consider me mightily surprised.

I mean it is a cliche suggestion, but have you verified file-integrity?

[novel pike]

I’ll do that

My games been making errors

In debug mode

Some are active

But some aren’t

So

Idk what’s wrong with my game

This all started when I made my Iraq mod

And went into debug mode

[fair sage]

A small Number of Bugs is vanilla. If the Number of Bugs noticeably crosses into the double digits I would start to think that something is off.

Wait, nudge

did you use nudge?

[novel pike]

Wait

I might have done something

And didn’t reverse it

In nudge

[fair sage]

Yeah, thats the thang. And nudge, if i recall correctly, stores its changes in the documents, so neither the Mod Files, nor verify Integrity catch that.

[novel pike]

Alr

How can I fix nudge

[fair sage]

Check your Hoi Documents and if there is a nudge, excise it with extreme prejudice.
(or if you want to keep the changes, move the files there to the appropriate Locations in your mod)

[novel pike]

Ok

Where would the nudge files be

[fair sage]

C:/Users/username/Documents/Paradox Interactive/Hearts of Iron IV/ (source: Wiki)
[currently checking myself]

[cause I have no nudge files/don't use it]

[novel pike]

aaa

i dont have nudge foldes

so

[fair sage]

... eeeh waht?

[novel pike]

btw some keys on my keyboad dont wok so bea with me

[fair sage]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Nudger here at least is the relevant wiki page

[novel pike]

i dont see any

nudge files

[fair sage]

hmmmmm..... So nothing in the Documents, nothing in the Mods, nothing in Basefiles. This is a Mystery indeed.

If you try to start an Ironmangame, does the Game allow Achievements? And if not, does it believe, the Gamefiles are modified?

[novel pike]

lets see

I’m validating first

Then I’ll try to launch an Ironman

[fair sage]

do dat

[novel pike]

VALIDATING

FIXED

YES

WOOO

[fair sage]

woop woop 😁

[old flint]

hello, i have a problem start hoi via the launcher

someone help me please?

[vestal totem]

Send ss

[karmic silo]

is it normal to generate hundreds of lines of errors just playing the game in pure vanilla all dlc

asking for a friend

even just letting vanilla run while doing absolutely nothing will spit out errors lmao

and this is barely even scratching the surface

i was wondering why submarine mio doesn't get any policies

so i looked at the files

and it turns out submarines are supposed to get them

it's just tagged wrong

in the mio

raiding designer for comparison

where it's the correct name

so you do unlock policies

truly amazing quality control for a product costing 200€

[fair sage]

No, thats not normal. I also possess all DLC and have like 5-6 Errors in Vanilla

[opal linden]

hey

hey

hey

i need help

i cant delete mod folder

need help quick

[fair sage]

That is... weird.
The only Situations in which folder-deletion should be prevented, is if Files there are in Use by other Programs.

[opal linden]

folder is in use

help me

i cant delete the folder

[fair sage]

Yeah. Close all the Files and Hoi, if that is running. (as well as any other potential Applications, which have opened these Files)
PS: I can see via Discord, you are in VS-Code and a Hoi File is open there (and has been for 45+ Minutes), so close that.

[opal linden]

thanks

👍🏿

[fair sage]

No Problem 👍

[frozen tartan]

How do I nudge Istanbul with DLC, it keeps giving me errors

[fair sage]

Nudge generates a Ton of errors. That doesn't necessarily mean its broken.
What do you want to nudge about it?

[quiet bloom]

why is my game zoomed out

ill send a better photo wait

[fair sage]

May very well be that Mod. Otherwise, could you send a Picture of the Video Settings?

[quiet bloom]

sure

reddit says its ui scaling

[fair sage]

Huh, didn't even know that was a Feature. Yes, that is what's happening.
UI stands for User Interface, the Menus and so on. With UI Scaling you say how large you want those and 0.5 is 50% of the original Size or more accurately, what we see here. Set UI Scaling to 1 and restart the game. That should fix it.

[quiet bloom]

ok

yeah it works now thanks 👍 i know what ui was but the experimental threw me off so i didnt think it was that

[sullen violet]

s?m

[silver vine]

my millenium dawn game keeps crashing anyone who can help?

i really like that save file and wanna play it

[mental ibex]

Hi, recently every time I alt+tab game and leave it like that few minutes and try to return, game crash. Any help pls...

[flat magnet]

Would anyone know how to fix the ‘failed to load the map error’ but via GeForce now? The level 2 support team over at Nvidia can’t even seem to find a solution, yes I’ve removed all mods and even launched the game locally which was a success but obvs can’t play it there

[lusty latch]

my hoi4 is completely broken

like

it wont even uninstall

what

do i do

[bronze robin]

Restart pc

[lusty latch]

update: it uninstalled

this is a good sign

uh

the game still doesnt work

so thats not good

[novel pike]

delete all folders of hoi4 👍

but also back them up

[frozen tartan]

I've done a lot of nudging states, I know how to use it and how to move victory points and yada yada, but whenever I specifically do Istanbul, no matter what I do it does not work, I think it is because it is linked to a dlc, since I've noticed this happen only to state files when it has something about "if dlc enabled"

I'm trying to make it so Istanbul is only one province (giving east Istanbul to a bordering Turkish state with nudge)

[tropic musk]

None of my mods have been working for about 3 months

im unsure why

this happened sometime before when multiple dlcs got added to the base game

[fair sage]

Generally:
This might be a bit of work, but try each mod (where it is possible) individually.
For those, which don't work, check the Workshoppage to see, whether the relevant Devs or other Users have noted Problems.
Also make sure that all Mods are up to date, though this should happen automatically.

Specifically:
What does "not work" mean in this Context? Crash? Errors? No/broken Effect?

[tropic musk]

I have tried many mods, and none of them seem to work

By that I mean that I get vanilla Hoi4 after starting it

and the mods dont affect anything

[fair sage]

Thats ... weird. Are the Mods in your Playset and active?

[tropic musk]

I believe so

[tulip geyser]

hey i believe this might be a bug in AAT. i capped the Allies too quick so Norway cant do the focus to become my puppet 😳

is this normal at all? i'm only using eai 5.0 so i dont think its a problem caused by any mod

[fair sage]

No, merely an Oversight. Obviously it had to be ensured, that Norway would be capped and a more complex System of continued Subjugation postwar was either not considerd important enough or considerd at all. In short: Norway is no longer capped in your Game. While this Behaviour may be unintended, it is not due to an Error in the Programming, or anything.

Of course, we can also argue realism ("Why would a fascist Norway decrease its own Autonomy after the War?"), but I don't think that Discussion will lead anywhere (especially since Hoi is typically so realistic).

[tulip geyser]

so can i kick them out of my faction and start a new war?

but considered Josef Terboven is currently in charge, then RIP historical immersion

haha nvm solved the problem with the puppet command

[fair sage]

Also works. Do whatever's most fun 😉

[burnt karma]

i was trying to get on hoi4 today to have fun, but paradox launcher gave me an infinite loop (arch linux user if wondering), and it was loading fine yesterday. and i just did verifying integrity of files (might do it again)

i did download another paradox launcher from the AUR, and it loaded fine and seen stellaris (i didn't install it yet, but it detected it)

should i follow the "delete the paradox folders" on the forum page?

[burnt karma]

had to restart pc 💀

[gray horizon]

My game won't update so I'm unable to play MP with anyone, any ideas?

[quasi briar]

Uhh does anybody know why when I was playing as Germany last night and had won ww2 (hadn’t fought Soviet Union yet tho) and each time I tried invading Hungary my game crashed? Specifically when I invaded Hungary too like I could do anything without crashing but that. My game is modded. It’s not a problem with my pc since my pc is more than capable of running it ( i5 core 12400F, 16GB RAM, RTX 3060)

[gray horizon]

Maybe it's trying to trigger and event that was broken due to the adding of death or dishonor into the base game

[quasi briar]

ah

[gray horizon]

But Idk

Have you meddled with any of the files?

[quasi briar]

Nope

[foggy scarab]

road to 56 is turned on ion the launcher, but its not being applied to the bas egame for somer eason

does anybody know what i can test, or do?

reinstalled the mod, verified files, thats all done

im very confused

[fair sage]

Is it in the active Playset?

[foggy scarab]

yes it is

[foggy scarab]

i also tried to make a new playset, it didnt work

[fair sage]

Could you send the error.log?

[foggy scarab]

where is it?

[fair sage]

in the Documents->Paradox Interactive->Hearts of Iron IV->logs

[foggy scarab]

@fair sage

[gray horizon]

Can anyone help me with this?

[fair sage]

Check your Steam Settings

[fair sage]

Those are Basegame errors, so sadly nothing relating to the mod.
I personally don't have any Idea, what could be causing this, sorry.
Ask on Reddit or wait for someone else to answer here, I guess
Though I have one Question, just to gather Info. Do other Mods load?

[foggy scarab]

yeah they do

its just road to 56

i have no idea why, im lost..

tried turning off all dlcs too, didnt work

its like the mod just not being applied at all

[fair sage]

Then it appears to be rt56 related, so do ask them in the Reddit or on X (or look whether others are complaining)

I mean of course you can doublecheck if it is active, but given your Statement, I assume you already did that 😅

[foggy scarab]

alr

[gray horizon]

Like what?

I don't know how to manually update it

And I've checked if the files are all valid

[fair sage]

Check how your Updates are pulled. That can be set within the properties of the game

Wait

Your Version is Up to Date

Something Just changed the checksum. I dont Recall, did you validate your files

?

[gray horizon]

Yes

(sorry for the late reply)

[fair sage]

I think you might be a scam. Both because that sounds pretty scammy and also because it is completely offtopic. Also some of those Things I am fairly certain are actually illegal.

[fair sage]

Hm. Could it be, that you have Debug or something like that enabled?

If you have a non-standard checksum---although you don't have mods enabled that change it---try clicking on the "Clear user directory" button in the launcher. That fixes most problems like that.
From the Wiki and heard that before. You could try that. Also sorry for late reply 😅

[gray horizon]

I occasuinally have it on when I'm modding, but I turned it off

[gray horizon]

I don't want to remove my mods, especially since I'm making one

[fair sage]

Store your Modstuff in a seperate Folder then, while clearing the Directory and then load them back. Don't know if that prevents this from working, but it shouldnt

[low gate]

why has my game crashed when trying to load graphical data?
it always crashes on "Loading Sprites" or "Loading Graphics"
i havent installed any mods, and it was working fine literally yesterday.

[fair sage]

I can't say, why you crash, but have you tried Validating your Files?

[low gate]

doing what??

also, for some reason, after multiple reloads, im playing the game now..

it didnt freeze up and crash this time

[fair sage]

Validating the Integrity of the Gamefiles via Steam. Basically, Steam checks if the Games Files have been modified and if so, it will correct any difference to the distributed Version.

But since it now works, I suspect that rather some other part of your System is to blame. It sounds like it is/was struggling to start the Game and some hidden Interaction with something caused it to give up. Maybe some Driverupdate or something. If it is the PC and not the Game it could be a million different things. Continue observing whether such problems occur with other Programs/Games. If yes, then something happened with the System. If no, but issues persist with Hoi4, then it's weird and you can come back here. If no Issues persist, Issue solved 😅

Of course we could now go through and check if we find anything weird, but if it works now, it works. I won't question Miraculous Recoveries. 😉

[silver vine]

is there a way to remove a dlc from being required in a save file?

[fair sage]

Unless some true Dev-Wizard made a Tool for it somewhere, I don't think so no.
Also, even if the Requirement could somehow be bypassed it would with very high certainty break the Game.

[silver vine]

it wouldn t cuz it isn t being used

[fair sage]

That... then why would it have the DLC Gate set?
Is it a cosmetic one or?

[silver vine]

i am doing millenium dawn and its the 2 last released dlcs that apparently break the mod or smth and i didn t know

but the crashes started like 3 hours in my gameplay

and i want to play that save

[fair sage]

Ah, okay. Yeah I don't think you can do anything there, sorry. This is a fairly edge-case Scenario and the Save Games aren't manually editable.
Two Options: You wait and hope the Millenium Dawn Devs make a Fix (though that might not necessarily fix your save)
Or you disable the relevant DLC and start a new Campaign.

[silver vine]

are u sure the saves can t be edited?

i can edit them\

just i don t know where the dlc thingy would be

[fair sage]

I mean even Machine Code can be edited. But try opening other Files in the Base Gamefiles and you will see actual, legible Text.
The Mountains of Numbers and Letters aren't readable by Humans. Or at the very least the Humans capable of gaining any Intelligence from Stuff like that have very well paying Jobs at massive Companies. And they don't know how to read Hoi4.savegame Files, just Binary (...somehow.... There is a Reason People that do that are ungodly rich)

[silver vine]

so u think its hidden in the binary parts?

[fair sage]

No, not what I meant. (Sorry for the Tangent) In short: Such Files cannot be understood by Humans. I mean its more than a Million Lines long and each line is 32 Values. This is an absurd amount of values in Hexadecimal Numbers. We are actually seeing the Bytes here (kinda). It is not meant to be edited manually and noone can read it.

This isn't like NES where we can understand, what each Value says for the Save. It is simply far too large and complex

[turbid mantle]

Pls help me why do I have ready-made tank templates, I can't change them, just increase armor, weapons, reliability, and I want to make my own tank template myself

[fair sage]

Are you talking about the Tank Designer?

[turbid mantle]

yes

[fair sage]

Do you have the DLC "No step back"?

[turbid mantle]

I'll take a look right now

there is

[fair sage]

So you do have it? Is it active? (You can check in the Launcher or the Bottom Left of the Main Menu, where it is the Icon in the Centre)

[turbid mantle]

It's off

[fair sage]

Well turn it on, that should do it

[turbid mantle]

ok

It worked

спс

[fair sage]

😁 👍

[turbid mantle]

Выручил брат

[fair sage]

Ничего 😉 (Печально переведено через переводчика)

[silver vine]

what is the national spirit to create factions hoi4 command

like its name

[craggy mauve]

my hoi4 refuses to start

it gives me this error everytime I try to start the game

tried to clear the cache

uninstalled my mods

uninstalled and reinstalled the game

verified file integrity

swapped launch modes (direct x11 and OpenGL)

installed c++ redistributable and .net framework

Swear to god I’ve done everything

but the game just won’t work

[keen junco]

I have the same problem.

[craggy mauve]

Were you able to fix it?

[keen junco]

Help #1

Help #2

Im speak Russian

[craggy mauve]

so I even deleted all of my save files

wiping the game off my computer basically

and it still won’t start upon reinstalling

Ok so the game launches when I go directly to the exe file and run it as administrator

but it might not play

so the game immediately crashed upon trying to start a game

[thorny sky]

Can somebody help me

I'm trying to play with a few friends but when they start the game, my hoi4 game crashes.

[sand hawk]

i keep getting this popup when trying to launch HOI4, after i click "ok" the game just crashes

[fair sage]

validate your gamefiles via steam

[sand hawk]

i have

something might've gone wrong during it tho, idk

is there a way to do it, like "manualy", like click somewhere to get it to validate it?

[fair sage]

How else would you do it? It's in the Properties under Installed Files

[sand hawk]

ah, thanks

it didn't work, the same message poped up

and the game crashed

[fair sage]

I fixed the issue. I had to completely remove the steam game file, the Paradox Interactive folder in documents, then delete local content of the game, reinstall the game, and then verify integrity of game once reinstalled. Then it worked fine.

The first Solution I found to a basically equal Error (default.txt missing instead of settings.txt) on Steam Will continue some superficial checks, but at least this is a better solution to "Reinstall Windows", which another User did.
I suspect it's something broken with the Engine. Seems to not be a common Error, since this top result is from 2018

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/file-exception-error-help.1456666/ maybe relevant EU4 Post?

It seems certain it is something with Engine or Launcher

[sand hawk]

ah

so do i wanna reunstall the game?

[fair sage]

Looks like it, but I am only drawing my Conclusions from the same Posts you see

[sand hawk]

yea

but does my DLC:s stay?

[fair sage]

Well, you won't have to rebuy them, if that is what you worried about.

[sand hawk]

alright

i have alr somehow "lost" 3 dlc:s

[fair sage]

You haven't lost those. Those have been integrated to the Basegame a couple Months ago

[sand hawk]

ohh

i did buy Together for Victory tho

[fair sage]

Well, now you have all three of the "lost ones"

[sand hawk]

yea, ig

so buying Together for victory was kinda a waste of money ig

[fair sage]

Very much depends on when you bought it/how much Time you played it before hand.
15 Bucks is what some People do pay for Early Access for Stuff. And I got hundreds of hourse for those 45€ Compared to, say, Cinema this was very much not a Waste for me.

[sand hawk]

yea

well, thank you for your time, hopefully it will work after its done re-installing

still doesnt work

damn it

[fair sage]

Yeah, also saw that on the line 😅
Can you try delete the File mentioned in the Error? I found a post that said "settings.txt" will be automatically regenerated

[sand hawk]

i'll try

i cant find the file

[fair sage]

Well, thats good on one hand, cause neither can the Game. On the other Hand this also tells us, the game won't regenerate it, which is bad.
Maybe it generates it in a weird Location? Or fails to? I am looking through the Bugreports to see if someone else already had something similar. Otherwise, I'm afraid generating a Bug Report is the best you can do. (Alongside some googling, I suppose 😅 )

[sand hawk]

yea

[fair sage]

I mean you could also hope a dedicated helper shows up
I am just a Modder and CS-Student making educated Guesses here 😅

[sand hawk]

yea, well i rlly appreciate your help

[gray horizon]

I just cleared user directory, and it's still the same ):

I even uninstalled and reinstalled

I verified the files

I did everything

[sand hawk]

damn

[fair sage]

I know it is frustrating, that I ask this, but are you absolutely a hundred Percent certain, that you have no mods active?

ACKtualy, I have a Test you can do. Try starting an Ironman Game and see if you can get Achievements. If yes, something is weird with the Game. If no, something is weird with its Files. (You can actually hover over the Achivements Icon before starting a game to see why it doesn't allow Achievos. One of those things is "Files modified" and that I plan to abuse for this test. Unless we already did this, in which case... whoops)

[gray horizon]

I made a separate playset with no mods, so I have none on

But I'll try the ironman thing

There is something in my files!

I verified them on steam??

I uninstalled the game

And reinstalled

[fair sage]

The Plot thickens!
Then why didn't validate or reinstalling catch it?
..... NUDGE?

Did you use Nudge?

[gray horizon]

Not in a long time

But I did nothing but look around

[fair sage]

Hm. Well, Nudge stores Files in the Documents, which neither Validate nor Reinstalling will catch. Furthermore it is not a mod.
For Refrence, if proper, the Documents Folder will look something like this

[gray horizon]

Here's the document files

(same thing different veiw)

[fair sage]

No obvious Nudge Files....
A couple Folders are missing, including pdx_launcher but I think those are optional/wouldn't cause this (??)

[gray horizon]

Yeah I can't figure it out

[fair sage]

I mean- it almost has to be something in the Documents. Every other File would be (necessarily) corrected via Reinstall. What is your Checksum in the Launcher? (For Refrence, mine is Bolivar v1.14.5.0917 (d40a)

[gray horizon]

(sorry for the late response)

Bolivar v1.14.5.0917 (293a) (5)

[fair sage]

Same version, different Checksum....
So it is something the Game is aware of before booting?

It's most certainly not Mods or anything of that sort

[gray horizon]

I can try running it in debug to see if it catches anything

[fair sage]

I mean, I guess? The only thing I can find for wrong Vanilla Checksum is validating

[gray horizon]

[12:21:42][no_game_date][dlc.cpp:227]: Invalid supported_version in file: mod/ugc_2381439640.mod line: 7
[12:21:42][no_game_date][dlc.cpp:227]: Invalid supported_version in file: mod/ugc_2404689961.mod line: 8
[12:21:42][no_game_date][dlc.cpp:227]: Invalid supported_version in file: mod/ugc_2862504485.mod line: 6
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_right_entity" for attachment in rifle1
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_right_entity" for attachment in rifle4
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_left_entity" for attachment in rifle2
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_long_idle_entity" for attachment in rifle3
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_right_entity" for attachment in rifle1
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_right_entity" for attachment in rifle4
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_left_entity" for attachment in rifle2
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_long_idle_entity" for attachment in rifle3
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_right_entity" for attachment in rifle1
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_right_entity" for attachment in rifle4
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_left_entity" for attachment in rifle2
[12:21:47][no_game_date][pdx_entity.cpp:324]: Failed to find entity "MEX_infantry_weapon_rifle_long_idle_entity" for attachment in rifle3
[12:21:48][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:57]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "SOV_modern_armor_entity", associated with SOV modern_tank_chassis
[12:21:48][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:57]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "SOV_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with SOV super_heavy_tank_chassis
[12:21:48][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:57]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "FRA_light_armor_2_entity", associated with FRA light_tank_chassis_3

Here's my DLCs if that matters

[fair sage]

I guess unsubscribe from the Mods.
But what is up with those Mexican Weapons? Only the lower 3 should appear in Basegame (And i think a Vanilla Error is missing (??))

(or update the mods)

if possible

[gray horizon]

I'll unsub from a bunch of mods I don't play

I just uninstalled a ton of mods so now I only have 69

@fair sage it changed again ;-;

[fair sage]

.... ehhhh what? o.O
So unsubscribing from the Mods DOES have an Impact??? But that should be disconnected from any mods?
I was gonna ask, whether you have your Gamefiles and Documents on the same Drive (Apparently that not being the Case can cause similar Issues?), but this makes me think, something is very much up with the Mods

[gray horizon]

Good news that new thing was just because I was in Debug
Bad news it's still the same problem

[fair sage]

Oh, okay. So yeah, how about them Drives? Are Gamefiles and Documents in the same Drive?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/z6ok9g/hoi4_crashing_on_startup_screen_with_error/ Reddit Post I got that Idea from

[gray horizon]

Ok, so the full game is this:
Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hearts of Iron IV
Launcher is this:
\Users[my name]\OneDrive\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV

Brb

[gray horizon]

Back

[fair sage]

I don't think I found anything helpful in the meantime. Some other people have had Mexico Gun Problems before, but no one even answered them yet.
But you have confirmed that your Documents are in a different Drive (OneDrive) so maybe move them to your local Documents and try that?

[gray horizon]

It's not in my Onedrive, I have my user as my first name

C:\Users\myname\OneDrive\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV

Oh wait

🤦‍♂️

[fair sage]

😅

[gray horizon]

I'm not doing too hot

[fair sage]

That's fine, hope you get better 👍
Also hope this shot in the dark somehow works

[gray horizon]

It's never been a problem before

So I doubt it

[fair sage]

fair

[gray horizon]

And I don't feel like messing up my other files in there

[fair sage]

How long ago could this Problem have started?

[gray horizon]

I can't remember, I think for a few months

I've tried playing with friends and we can only do it with mods

Since it changes the checksum

[fair sage]

I mean... try the least intrusive Checksumchanging Mod and go with that (if somehow that diversion from Vanilla makes it work again)

[gray horizon]

I want to get it back to normal

I'll look on the wiki if this is common

It's not

Maybe we can ask a dev?

They should know more than anyone else

[fair sage]

I mean... I don't know the Pinging Policy and would rather be careful. You could File a Bug Report.

[gray horizon]

Oh yeah. I'll file one, and I'll ask the mods if I can ping the devs

Let me read the rules

Again

Where do I file the Bug report?

[fair sage]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-bug-reports.951/

[gray horizon]

Aside from rule 7 saying we can't unsolidity dm the mods

[fair sage]

Well, okay, fair, but I think Dev Team is sort of above? I don't know. I can just imagine it would not be all too fun to be pinged by this Server like a Swarm of Bees. Because as it goes, People want the most surefire help immediately, so I could see Devping spam if it were allowed. Then again, I read the same Rule as you so, yeah, don't know

Also this bound to be a rare/new Error or something, so I don't know how much more it would help

[craggy mauve]

my game keeps crashing whenever the loading screen gets to “loading history”

I also can’t use the launcher to start the game

because it gives me this error

[fair sage]

Have you tried doing what the error Message says?

[craggy mauve]

yes

I’ve verified game integrity like 5 times

installed both the things it’s told me to do

reinstalled the game

repaired my launcher

wiped the directory

started it as administrator

switched between launch modes

by that I mean like

OpenGL, direct x9

that stuff

I don’t have any mods either

[fair sage]

Is this a new Issue? When was the last time you managed to launch it (via the Launcher)?

[craggy mauve]

yesterday

but this issue also started yesterday

earlier in the day it worked but it eventually stopped working

[fair sage]

Well, in that time there hasn't been an update, so something else must have changed. Did any major Program on your System get an Update (that you know of)?

[craggy mauve]

not that I know of

well

the problem started after my game crashed

Then it just broke and never started working again

[fair sage]

So it broke hard, I take it. Do you have an error.log lying around?

[craggy mauve]

where would that be at

I think I’ve seen it before

[gray horizon]

I just bought a DLC to try and see if that works

Nothing

[craggy mauve]

found it

it’s talking about some modern armor entity thing

SOV_modern_armor_entity does not exist

[fair sage]

Man the Guns I presume?

[gray horizon]

Yes

How did you guess?

[fair sage]

That is the DLC with the Mexico Content