ask-for-help-here

[runic escarp]

thank you ive seen his videos but hes a bit too quick for me tbh but i really enjoy his videos tho

[spring shore]

whats the best doctrine for germany? its still grand battleplan right?

[cosmic rain]

GBP for offence, SF for defence, so in germany's case probably GBP provided you can have a strong enough spy agency to take advantage of planning bonus

[spring shore]

ok thx

[frosty nymph]

<@&846894118219022336> Scammy scam

[spiral delta]

which tank is better for single player

[left glacier]

Higher soft attack is better for singleplayer

So the design on the right

[spiral delta]

alr thx

[left glacier]

You still have plenty of reliability left over, so you may want to uptick your tank's speed/armor

[serene karma]

Try watching yt tutorials

Or see if someone here is nice enough to guide you through

It takes multiple fails to get a grasp of the game

[neat widget]

right one

[golden sable]

when i land in the uk, they always encircle me with like 50 divisions

how to deal with thqat

[errant chasm]

You took too long to send additional divisions and the uk reinforced in time.

[golden sable]

do i just rush everything

[shy schooner]

How to generate world tension as democratic country at 1960

[obsidian badger]

h u h

[keen hemlock]

democratic countries usually generate it thru focuses

also if your in 1960 id just recomend restarting

[shy schooner]

Okay

[chrome breach]

yes

speed is the most important thing

planning and speed with good industry, air and infantry

[neat widget]

you mean research speed?

[chrome breach]

you already know

[neat widget]

?????

[chrome breach]

oh thats a serious question?

i thought you were kidding asking that

nah

i meant mobilization speed and just speed in general

like getting to the next tile as quick as possible rushing them non stop

[neat widget]

mobilization and movement speed isn't that important tbh

they made the latter more important for sure

latter one was made less important by increasing reliability losses

back in 1.17

[chrome breach]

true but in his situation you usually want to get to every victory point as fast as possible when naval invading the uk right?

before they bring every soldier from every corner of the earth to garrison the island

[neat widget]

sometimes in the uk you really need to fight

sometimes in the uk you can just rush them like what you said

it's not consistent from my experience

[keen hemlock]

if you have enough cas and subs to raid you will be fine

as long as they dont have deathstacks on the point

[civic hare]

is there a console command for infinite resources

[crisp mural]

@neat widget how do we apply the collabs we did as japan onto all china warlords

[neat widget]

in the peace conference, annex all the warlord states first and then annex china

[austere roost]

I'll have to say that both is horrible since you didn't make them spgs and the speed and reliability show you added too many useless things. You also didn't show cost which is the most important stat

[spiral delta]

i mean the second one shredded all the ai

[austere roost]

Yeah but anything shreds ai

[spiral delta]

the first one had trouble tho

[austere roost]

It will

How many of them do you have

In sp air and supply matter way more

[shy schooner]

Am I bugged
Litteraly at war rn

Nvm
Sweden is not a major country

[cosmic rain]

☝️ CAS goes crazy in SP

[shy schooner]

Extensive or Requirement guys?

[sand ember]

go up conscription laws one by one

they take time to do anything

hover over your manpower

only switch to the next higher manpower law when you're not mobilizing anymore men

[fathom thistle]

Usually extensive is enough. You shouldn't be loosing that much manpower in sp to require more.

[cosmic rain]

Nation dependent but yeah usually true

Especially not as germany

[keen hemlock]

if you dont have enough just go communist and get the magic marx portrait

[cosmic rain]

Pretty hard to switch halfway through especially if you've banned communism

[obsidian badger]

finland scraping the barrel moment

[fathom thistle]

Thing is if you are like a really small country like Luxemburg you wouldn't even benefit from going higher. Just bcs the population poll is so small

[cosmic rain]

As I do sometimes when I need communist support to be below a certain threshold for a focus

[keen hemlock]

i had almost a million in the army today as communist australia, thats like 15%

with extensive and desprate defense

only 10% factor too

[obsidian badger]

desperate as australia?

[cosmic rain]

If you're playing Luxembourg genuinely don't even bother with conscription yeah

[obsidian badger]

ok ig

[keen hemlock]

i need the manpower

[fathom thistle]

At that point just go communist to get that spirit of army for free manpower

[obsidian badger]

marx portrait?

[cosmic rain]

Yes

Goated

[keen hemlock]

the magic marx portrait gives free manpower

[cosmic rain]

Lore-wise how does it work. Is it international volunteers?

[fathom thistle]

Power of Marx fr

[keen hemlock]

you just pray and it gives 500 able bodied men

[cosmic rain]

I've had games as like Luxembourg for instance where my army becomes bigger than my population

[keen hemlock]

i assume so

only expanation

[cosmic rain]

That or marx spawns in devoted communists himself

[fathom thistle]

Desperate defense as Ussr😭✌️

[obsidian badger]

the power of communismancy

[keen hemlock]

for max larp you should untill the winter of 1941

[fathom thistle]

*red army choir starts playing

[cosmic rain]

You can do some real infantry roaching with large unit tactics + field engineering + desperate defense as the USSR

[obsidian badger]

Whats tfe best armor for breakthrough

[fathom thistle]

Roaching as Ussr just feels illegal

[fathom thistle]

Wdym ?

Armor

Like more armor ticks you add to tank design more breakthrough you get yes

[obsidian badger]

Med spg or heavy td or what

Or modern tank lol

[fathom thistle]

Idk about the most but the most efficient tank force is medium spgs for sp

Modern tanks suck

[obsidian badger]

lane

Lame

[fathom thistle]

You can always go the heaviest for larp

[shy schooner]

Okay
I got enough to only go for extensive

[obsidian badger]

Also lame

[cold prism]

Guys, whats the best template???

My fav is infantry 3x3 and artillery 2x1

[barren umbra]

What you should do if you are japan vs russia where there are 0 supply everywhere, china, russia when you invade it etc? You should spamming ralway and the supply hub?

[cosmic rain]

And that's with basic or interwar chasis right?

[cosmic rain]

Generally, line artillery is not advisable

9 infantry is fine

Support artillery is awesome

[cold prism]

And 4x1 para

[cold prism]

Wym

I thought it was meta

[cosmic rain]

Line artillery??

[cold prism]

Yes

[cosmic rain]

Hasn't been meta for years

[cold prism]

Oh

What is the best?

Space marines?

[cosmic rain]

Doctrine dependent. One example could be like 8 infantry with support MP and hospitals but disable support equipment and motorized so you get bonus HP and recovery rate for no IC cost

[cold prism]

How many motor?

[cosmic rain]

Personally I like to do 9 inf with support artillery, engineers, and possibly support AA because I like having bite in my holding inf but that's personal preference and moreso applicable to assault infantry doctrine

[cosmic rain]

Never mix motorized and foot infantry. Divisions always move at the speed of their slowest battalion

[cold prism]

Yeah, i have seen that

Medium tanks best for offense?

[cosmic rain]

Generally yeah

Heavies get worse terrain debuffs and lights don't have enough damage output

[cold prism]

3x3 medium and 3x2 motor

Is my personal

I fud wrong

[cosmic rain]

You generally wanna balance it around 35 organization, more HP is also good.

[cold prism]

Did*

Like 200+ is best

[cosmic rain]

Yeah

[cold prism]

What about marines?

[cosmic rain]

I'm too late to use special forces, no idea there tbh 💔 never experimented with them much.

But I've been told mountaineers are really good

[cosmic rain]

Lazy**

Im too lazy

[cold prism]

Ah ok

So 3x3 infantry is best

With support art

?

[cosmic rain]

Depends who you ask, some stuff is personal preference. My personal favourite is 9 infantry with support artillery and engineers (add AA if you're gonna get bombed). There are other templates for other builds though.

[cosmic rain]

Such as this

[cold prism]

Thank you really much, this really helped me

But one more question

[cosmic rain]

Which is moreso a meatshield infantry to use to hold the line. It won't inflict as many casualties on your enemy but it will just soak up lots of damage while your tanks do the real killing

[cold prism]

Ok

But

Why dont ypu use line art

?

[cosmic rain]

It takes up combat width and has bad HP and ORG stats

While support artillery does not take up any width

[cold prism]

What is combat width?

[glacial steeple]

org imo is whatever

[cosmic rain]

The amount of divisions which can participate in combat on a particular tile

[glacial steeple]

battlefield space usage

[cosmic rain]

If you exceed the combat width, any divisions that get assigned to that battle will just sit around waiting in combat reserve until more width is opened up

Which can happen either by the battle expanding into multiple tiles or by divisions in the battle being forced out because of low organization

[austere roost]

You can exceed by 33%

[vital plinth]

It seems impossible to compete with Germany in air around 1938 but need to attack them around this time as France, can I convert my light tanks to anti air or would it be a waste to do that ?

[hazy quiver]

For the naval player how aircraft carrier work? And how to put plane on them?

[vital plinth]

They automatically use their planens in naval combat ,
Just like airbase there is one on the ship so you click on the plane icon the ship and you can assign planes

To train them I just let my navy move 1 tile out the coast and put my planes to train to level 3

[hazy quiver]

Oh okey and if like 10 put of the 60 plane destroyed do its replace itself alone or i need do to it?

[glacial steeple]

you could make towed AA

[vital plinth]

To my infantry ?

[sonic iron]

yeah support AA is just superior

very effective and cheap to make

[mystic gyro]

How do i deploy maritime patrol planes?

[neat widget]

like any other plane

[mystic gyro]

I have some in stockpile

But it isnt showing up

[neat widget]

but they only deploy in 10s

instead of 100s

[mystic gyro]

Like i have a lil over 100

[neat widget]

so then you will have 10 air wings

[mystic gyro]

But it isnt showing up

I set it up as a flying boat

[cold fiber]

what is the best tank to ruin soviets

[dusty sandal]

The same as all, check pins

[spring shore]

what counts a battleCRUISER and what as a battleSHIP

[obsidian badger]

what tank/armor is best for breakthrough out of regular spg td med and heavy

And how should i prioritize generals and field marshals, as in should i prioritize having generals for every army but empty groups or groups with field marshals with potentially empty armies

and if i got a goated gen should i have them lead an elite army or be a field marshal

[mystic gyro]

irl battle cruisers were basically built somewhat simliar to battle ships but generally had jeavy cruiser armor thus making them signficantly faster

[spring shore]

huh?

[mystic gyro]

There because you cant connect dots well

Ingame its basically any ship with the battle cruiser armor equipped

[spring shore]

right im sorry if im just illterate but i dont really understand you

[scenic nacelle]

Cruiser hull with heavy guns are heavy cruisers

Battleships are battleship hulls

[spring shore]

thank youu ❤️

[inner sparrow]

heavy tank will give u most breakthrough out of the ones u said

if ur just looking at breakthrough

[vital plinth]

Does speed help at all in battle , is there a way I can avoid my spotting cruisers getting intercepted by a a strikeforce ?

[red mesa]

speed helps you get into and out of battles if that's what you're wondering

[tight tangle]

how do I get the U.S's lend lease into China without the japs blowing it up every damn time

[red mesa]

you could try blocking the sea zones between you and the mid-pacific then getting military access and linking your supply capital to british raj/burma ports to try and recreate the hump/burma road route

not sure how well that would work though

[vital plinth]

I think what I’m trying to get is how to protect my spotting crusiers so they don’t get destroyed fast and can actually escape without getting hit

[scenic nacelle]

Or u can build a navy as China…

[red mesa]

are they set to do not engage?

[cold fiber]

what build should I use on italy for navy

[tight tangle]

how do i do that

[half belfry]

can someone send a good inf template?

[vital plinth]

Yeha

[last arch]

i believe the meta is something like 18w, MP, support hospital, support AA +artillery with support equipment turned off in equipment menu

if your playing single player it doesn’t matter too much though

[thin nebula]

light cruisers and more dreadnoughts and mabye some carriers

[tight tangle]

Uh?

[red mesa]

click sea zone, click red button on the bottom to block, yellow button to partially restrict

then press f4 for supply map mode and check where convoys are arriving from

[tight tangle]

oh my god

thank you

[half belfry]

is this a good tank template?

[trail lava]

why did you put military police in it?

[half belfry]

the stats went up

[trail lava]

😂

well

don't do it

take em out

[half belfry]

well do you know a good template then?

[trail lava]

do you have dlcs?

[half belfry]

nope lol

[red mesa]

swap motor for mech, add support AA

[trail lava]

you need a big industry for mechanized, something you don't have early game

[half belfry]

yeah

[red mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-gif-25861205

its a german template, germany has infinite mils

[half belfry]

so what aboult this?

[trail lava]

sure that works for now until you get mechanized. Try get the armored support vehicle special research or whatever it's called

and add assault engineer companies once you've done that

[tired surge]

how the hell do i invade uk without insta dying

[red mesa]

as germany?
paras or naval?
date?
status of air/navy?
templates?
historical?

[tired surge]

germany rt56 its like 1946 or sm. i am quite new so templates are default air is pretty good navy sucks tho i have control of english strait and yes historical

[red mesa]

default templates aren't good and do not hold up in the late game, having control of the channel is good, you should check the pins for templates and try to grab ports before moving solid attacking units over to clear up

R56 means expanded tech so you can have some seriously tweaker level special forces stats

[tired surge]

idek what to research

[tired surge]

my issue is every time my naval invasions hits they lose quickly without advancing much

[red mesa]

infantry techs, support company techs, make sure you have complimentary doctrines etc etc. stack stats in your favour

[red mesa]

using basic templates means you're not overcoming the -50% penalty to naval landing and getting minced if you do

use the pins to get some good marine/mountaineer designs

[tired surge]

ohhh thats why i get fried

[tired surge]

elaborate?

mb i have like 75 hours im very new

[red mesa]

pinned messages in this channel

scroll to the ones you want to know about

[tired surge]

OH

[tired surge]

is there a way to tell members of my factions to invade at the same time as me?

[red mesa]

no

[tired surge]

dang

how do i increase my naval invasion from 6 divs?

[red mesa]

research the naval invasion techs, doing the focus for operation sealion gives you a research bonus towards it

its on the same research tab as naval guns

[tired surge]

say less thank u so much !

[vital geode]

You can send 12 divisions with base tech

2 invasions of 6

Just have them land in the same spots

[obtuse crescent]

my first win as the german reich

against poles

ive never won against poles

before

[red mesa]

gj 👏
Now spend your political power on fixing your war support

[obtuse crescent]

sir yes sir

[red mesa]

and fix your deficits in trains/trucks

[glacial steeple]

baba send help

[obtuse crescent]

im still very new

so

idk that much

but i will construct more civs

[red mesa]

you need mils, not civs

mils make army, army conquers civs

[obtuse crescent]

OHH

ok

wait listen

[obtuse crescent]

since some of my equipment

on mik

mil

are outdated im gonna research

[crisp creek]

im kinda getting tired of using 72 in mid game or late theyre kinda bad ngl does anyone know any better templates i want to use space marines but idk the template

[austere roost]

7/2 is from pre COVID times

And space marines suck

For defensive inf use 18w with support aa and art

[hazy quiver]

is this good cas dmg for 1941?

[austere roost]

For armor divisions use this

[red mesa]

delicious

[hazy quiver]

is this plane stat good? (cost 40)

[crisp creek]

so what should i use in single player

i just need good templates for singleplayer

[austere roost]

Read what else I wrote

[rapid urchin]

is it possible to exploit this focus in a similar posible way to the pansifift exploit on germany by creating a desired design by renaming it to what you want?

[austere roost]

Night radios aren't worth it

Also use single engines not double engines

[hazy quiver]

its for the interception and its air air radar

[austere roost]

Yeah and it sucks

[hazy quiver]

oh okey and the 70 air attack is good right?

[rapid urchin]

@glacial steeple ?

[glacial steeple]

i havent play hoi in a solid month and a bit

i dont think so

[austere roost]

Just use the design in pins, you have a lot wrong with your design. Mainly using double engine

[glacial steeple]

because it always creates a new variant design upon spawnin

which you need to rename, and then it will use yours if its the same hull exact same name

but maybe you can just name it on hull and it works

[austere roost]

Also what mio are you using? Air mio ranking is supermarine > range > light > all other agility mios

[hazy quiver]

what bad with double engine (its my first time crating heavy fighter so i want to learn)

[rapid urchin]

okay

[austere roost]

Don't use heavies

[hazy quiver]

i have no idea i dont look at that so much

[hazy quiver]

usa

[austere roost]

Well look at the stats of double

You'll see why they're bad when compared to single

[austere roost]

Did you rush 1940 heavies then?

[hazy quiver]

its heavy fighter i cant put single

and its jet

[austere roost]

Well then just use 4 heavies + max level of cheapest engine + self sealing + combination of armor plates/extra fuel tanks

Unless you think 880 range is enough

It's the same spirit as the air design in pins

How many extra fuel tanks depend on your desired range

[hazy quiver]

okey ty

[cold fiber]

should I use this or nah for italy offense inf

[tropic tapir]

What's a good Marine Template?

[static turret]

<@&846894118219022336>

sell his organs and sleep with this guys wife mods

[errant chasm]

Omg mr best give fre mooney /s

[tight tangle]

how do I access this

[versed rose]

if you dont have dlc, probably will have to swap some mountaineers for marines

[scenic nacelle]

Hover over them

And read what they say

[static turret]

guys wich ships should I make to destroy ai navy

[hazy quiver]

just almost any navy with good equipment (get more battleship and light crusier and if you nation with good factory get carrier too)

[static turret]

im germany so ig ill spam cruiser

[hazy quiver]

get light cruiser spam

[static turret]

whats a good cruiser template tho

[hazy quiver]

not heavy

uh

yt have get good template

[static turret]

aight

[hazy quiver]

just try to get alots of light attack

[cerulean hull]

just saw this chat so decided to forward here too. sorry im new and idk where to put requests for help like this 😭

[static turret]

is this that one silesia mod

also I got no idea

[wet solar]

How do you effectively grind in spain and finland as russia? Like i see people in mp coming out with so much army xp and general traits

[bright briar]

hello, does anyone know why my tanks just dont reinforce?

[dusty sandal]

combat width is too high

[bright briar]

ok

[dusty sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcp1ooD_YqY

[bright briar]

so should I cut down the template or just roll with it?

[wet solar]

Whats ur template?

[versed rose]

holy obesity

[bright briar]

hahah

[left glacier]

I would recommend cutting down to at least 36 width for tank divisions so you take less terrain penalties in battle

[versed rose]

take 2 mechanized and 5 tanks out

[sage portal]

Anyone got marines division design playing as ussr have to naval invade britain

[bright briar]

ok

thanks guys

[sage portal]

Do i really need those 2 super arti and uh

Thing under flame tank

[versed rose]

if you dont have pioneer you're going to need to replace 3-4 mountaineers for marines

[sage portal]

Ok

[versed rose]

shhw is just stats but if you dont have it, use something else

sup arty or w/e

[sage portal]

I dont have howz too

Now americans joined 2 but naval of brits is bassicly gone

[sage portal]

Ok

So mountainers

And marines ok

Hopefuly it works

Then i gotta figure how to destroy americans

Proably naval invade from right ussr side huh

@versed rose

[versed rose]

idk bro, i dont play out that late so i cant help you

[sage portal]

Oh ok

[versed rose]

i normally invade us from greenland

[sage portal]

K

[versed rose]

greenland to canada to us

[sage portal]

Alr got it

[glacial steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071599414868713575/1406374263199629332/attachment.gif

[bright briar]

thats working wayyy better thank you guys

[mystic gyro]

think im done with hoi4 for a while till i get a better pc

anything post 1941 starts causing crashes and what i can ONLY assume at times is a memory leak

[mystic gyro]

question about flame tanks does whether they are light medium or heavy matter?

[dusty sandal]

medium gives the most buffs, heavy cost more for less buffs, lights give less buffs than mediums but can be paradropped

[cerulean hull]

yeah

[tidal lantern]

hey

[cold bloom]

Wdym

@tidal lantern

[tidal lantern]

everything is green

im using linux to play

[cold bloom]

Tried different renderer?

[tidal lantern]

yeah with proton usaly the rivers on the map is black

[cold bloom]

hm I mean DirectX/OpenGL in launcher

[tidal lantern]

no i didnt

lemme check

[mystic gyro]

i see thanks

[mystic gyro]

OH I ACTUALLYKNOW THIS ONE

ok so one make sure your drivers are updated two if that fails lower the graphics down and put the game into windowed mode

[tidal lantern]

i was on directX now im in OpenGL and its good but thanks

@cold bloom thanks now its better

[shy schooner]

Is speedrun getting anchulus a good idea?

[sand ember]

yeah

[shy schooner]

Okay

[tight tangle]

why cant my divs keep attacking even if theyhave reserves

[sand ember]

What do you mean?

In some cases the attacking divs can run out of organization before they can be reinforced so the battle just ends

[tight tangle]

BRUH

No wonder I cannot keep attakcing then

:/

I have to keep pressing right click on thjem

[rocky ginkgo]

hold the phone

send a ss of your front line

[tight tangle]

Its not looking good

:/

[rocky ginkgo]

my brother in christ

[tired surge]

best space marine template to invade uk late game?

[rocky ginkgo]

you are attacking as china?

[tight tangle]

I don't even know what to do atp

[tight tangle]

Yes

My soft attack is barely anything to the Japanese

[rocky ginkgo]

you can pray

[tight tangle]

like that helps

Im trying to grab better artillery

[rocky ginkgo]

you are meant to defend agasint the japanese

not really attack unless u can encircle

[tired surge]

?

[tight tangle]

Yeah no, the guys at the far end got encircled

🫠

at least it isnt mine

[rocky ginkgo]

do u know how org works?

[tight tangle]

somewhat

if it goes down, the division stops fighting

to retreat

[rocky ginkgo]

yeppp

so when u attack and you let that org empty

but u still keep on attacking anyway

its like punching a wall with an already broken hand

ygm?

[tight tangle]

i guess

[rocky ginkgo]

you want them to bloody their hands on you

[tight tangle]

i just wanna push back these guys

but

[rocky ginkgo]

butttt what?...

[tight tangle]

Yeah

[rocky ginkgo]

theres only 1 div attack 3

[tight tangle]

This fatso

[rocky ginkgo]

yikes

did u do radios?

[neat widget]

oof

[rocky ginkgo]

hover over one of the reserves in that battle

[neat widget]

what's the division template for the jidonghu divisions

[rocky ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-drizzy-champagnepapi-yikes-shock-gif-7494138007525792949

[tight tangle]

I swear I am not trying to get a raise out of people

I genuinely just wanna put out yamashita

[rocky ginkgo]

this would make any sweat burst into tears

did u put that armored car there?

[tight tangle]

yes

[rocky ginkgo]

could u explain your reasoning

[tight tangle]

I was told (advised) I shouldnt use armored cars, but I got interested at a expanded armor mod, tried it, made a template for my armored car to give it a 2nd shot

I think I give up on the entire armored car shtick and just get a light tank

[rocky ginkgo]

this is gonna take alot of explaining to do....

[rocky ginkgo]

theres alot more on that

[tight tangle]

?

Be specific which ones would you like me to entail

[rocky ginkgo]

no like

i assume u are fairly new correct

?

[tight tangle]

yes

I am new

[rocky ginkgo]

yeah ok fairs

that is new

[tight tangle]

@neat widget

[neat widget]

If you're doing armored cars put them as recon first

[tight tangle]

Currently I am stock piling equipment

[tight tangle]

Oh

[neat widget]

Because you get 80% of the breakthrough for 40% of the cost

[tight tangle]

Is that what I was supposed to do

[rocky ginkgo]

yeah....

[tight tangle]

So much for Chiang Kai Shek larping

:/

I didnt even realize

I can do that

[rocky ginkgo]

sorry mate but that is what that is

[half glade]

whats a good basic attacking unit if i use CAS to overwhelm enemy

[tight tangle]

How do I get recon

[half glade]

research

[tight tangle]

Oh wait its in research

[rocky ginkgo]

do a longer in attack devision

[tight tangle]

Oh man I am genuinely so screwed.

[half glade]

what does that mean

[tight tangle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/don-quixote-qui-limbus-company-okNaPntXjY4qtmA0O3

[rocky ginkgo]

personally i do 18 widths

6 infantry and 2 arty

but 30 widths also work

[tight tangle]

Yeah no

I

I think the Japanese will just

steamroll me at this point LKMAO

[rocky ginkgo]

if u want i can walk through the basic mechanics for hoi4 quickly

although i only have like 10 mins

[half glade]

you have a 35% boost

youll be fine

[neat widget]

yeah don't research artillery as china

[rocky ginkgo]

engineer companies are usually where its at

[half glade]

why not

[rocky ginkgo]

you are mainly defending

[half glade]

ah

arent they good defensively?

[rocky ginkgo]

plus u need to save time to develop more "defence" research

[rocky ginkgo]

a baby is strong against an ant but a tank will steamroll a baby

[tight tangle]

Oh man.

[rocky ginkgo]

thats pretty much japan and china

[tight tangle]

But I cannot afford to lose the mil factories I gained...

[neat widget]

if you're playing an infantry heavy country like china, your main goal should be researching infantry equipment. artillery increases are only a fraction of your attack power

[rocky ginkgo]

hold on

[half glade]

ohh okay i see

[rocky ginkgo]

u are making aa but your infantry dont have aa equiped

[half glade]

what things should i research if i wanna control the air

anything other than light chassis?

[rocky ginkgo]

fighters

[tight tangle]

I got a seperate template

[neat widget]

yeah, include the aa if you're making it as china

[tight tangle]

The U.S. is

[half glade]

im doing this right now

[half glade]

austria hungary

[tight tangle]

Where even is my lend lease at this point

[half glade]

im PRAYING the german civil war ends up with german empire

[rocky ginkgo]

heavy mg, 1940 fighters

[tight tangle]

I literally got everything I need

[half glade]

alright thanks

any cannons?

ive seen them in builds

[neat widget]

yeah that's most likely

[half glade]

for cas

[half glade]

praying praying

[tight tangle]

U.S. where are you Im kinda gonna die

[rocky ginkgo]

@neat widget @tight tangle could we go into helping lounge and help Don Quijote out?

[tight tangle]

sure

[neat widget]

sure

[half glade]

is this worth it

[rocky ginkgo]

no

[half glade]

okay

[rocky ginkgo]

shit u are austria

do aa

dont do air

[neat widget]

do engine first tbh

[half glade]

okay, ill probably wait a bit first

[neat widget]

also yeah probably do aa, you aren't outcompeting germany until you form austria-hungary

[half glade]

are armour peircing bombs good?

i assume not against ai

as they make bad armour

[red mesa]

only really useful for naval bombing

[half glade]

ah okay

[neat widget]

why are you going fire concentration rip

fire concentration's a bad doctrine, especially when you only have 2 artillery in division

[half belfry]

is it any bad that i mostly use space marines? or should i learn just basic templates

[neat widget]

learn the basic templates first, then turn them into space marines

what i mean is that if you have a mountaineer template that is 18 mountaineer, you can replace one mountaineer with a tank and your division will be more effective

[tired surge]

whats the best way to stop resistance?

[slender junco]

The versions is the same...

*are

(I'm Not original English)

[neat widget]

@tight tangle defense and breakthrough partially block attack for each point of defense and breakthrough

[tired surge]

?

[neat widget]

each attack point has a 40% chance of hitting normally, that drops to 10%

[slender junco]

.

[neat widget]

entrenchment also buffs attack, but you lose it once you retreat

you get 0.2% per battalion + 2% with the engineer battalion

so it's not much, and is practically useless as china as japan has so much intel on you

@tight tangle

[slender junco]

pls speed I need it

[neat widget]

one of the most important things for large divisions is initiative

initiative is a stat that both increases coordinated share damage (the damage done to one target) and reinforce rate (which as you already saw is important, but is especially important if you can only fit two or three divisions)

[slender junco]

.

[neat widget]

this si right btw

and also you can ask lend lease from neutral nations

improving relations was the right decision

[hasty star]

Question: Does production cost impact resource use? (For example making a tank and adding a ton of stuff, that on paper doesn't use resources, but adds extra production cost)

[fair hare]

no

adding a module/upgrading a for example tank always show whatits resource use is

ic cost does not matter

[neat widget]

resource use is per factory

[hasty star]

IC just increases the amount of time it takes to make a tank?

[neat widget]

so if increasing production cost means that you're increasing the number of factories you use, then yeah

[neat widget]

ye

but this is not how we think most of the time

[hasty star]

I play very passively, so powerful tank divisions seem fun

[ruby urchin]

Are there any mods that improve the Mittel Afrika path for congo

[half glade]

how do i integrate all of this

[winged walrus]

how do i stop my good planes from reinforcing the shit ones, like ive been making planes for a year but it jsut says reinforcing

[safe blaze]

<@&846894118219022336>

[red mesa]

wings reinforce by displacement, the old ones go into storage and the new ones fill the wings

[winged walrus]

oh

[red mesa]

you would have to disband the wing entirely and select the new plane first when making it

[neat widget]

first you need to take italy

[half glade]

yeah i plan on it

but

socialist germany

are declaring

im panicking

i have no troops

[neat widget]

oh

[half glade]

and cas isnt in perfect production

[neat widget]

they will only declare war on you and not on all of your puppets

[red mesa]

12 divs in 1939 is certainly a choice

[neat widget]

thus you only have to defend the austrian border and not the czech border

[half glade]

genuinely have no clue how people do it

i have nothing in stockpiles

[red mesa]

building military factories

how else?

[neat widget]

how did you get that far with only 3 factories on infantry equipment

[half glade]

so basically

i just

[sand ember]

lmao

[half glade]

stole my puppets troops

LMAO

[neat widget]

I see

[half glade]

i also took everything peacefully

[neat widget]

continue to do that, hold against Germany, and then pummel Italy

[half glade]

no fighting was done

apart from slovenia

okay will do

[neat widget]

at least that's what I would have done

[red mesa]

0 trains btw

going to go really well

[half glade]

how am i supposed to produce everything look at my mils

okay army formed lol

[red mesa]

I already told you

by building mils

[half glade]

BROTHER

I HAVE BUILT

NOTHING

BUT MILS

THIS ENTIRE

RUN

[last arch]

build them better

[half glade]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-yikes-flight-meme-gif-12822158462297009384

well im dea

so fun

stupid stupid game

270 hours btw

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

im the coughing baby

genuinely what do i do wrong

[last arch]

you don’t have nearly enough mils

[half glade]

what else do i do though

like genuinely

i dont understand

[marsh knoll]

build mills

[half glade]

BRO

[last arch]

increase military production output

[marsh knoll]

or just build mills

[half glade]

I DONT EVEN BUILD ANYTHING ELSE

[half glade]

what does that even mean

oh my god

if thats

[last arch]

build mils

[half glade]

a reword

[marsh knoll]

do economy focuses that give output bonuses

[half glade]

for build mils

im goiing to cry

[marsh knoll]

or research concentrated because concentrated is always the best

[red mesa]

I mean as austria you have to rush to the rebellious rearmament focus and get onto partial mob asap

[marsh knoll]

or just do eco focuses for extra civs or mills

[red mesa]

because your build speed is crap

[half glade]

im doing that

[marsh knoll]

also if you cant produce guns then just have a really professional army

get as many army bonuses possible

as

[last arch]

if you construct additional armament manufacturing facilities you’ll do much better

[half glade]

hedge

[red mesa]

I will mention you had 12 divs with equipment surpluses, so part of the issue is just not using the equipment and manpower you had available

[half glade]

youre hurting me mentally

[last arch]

rededicate civilian construction assets

[half glade]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-out-rage-parks-and-rec-nick-offerman-ron-swanson-gif-17688925

[eager orbit]

Does anyone have a good light tank design and template?

[next loom]

jemand deutsch hier

[austere roost]

for what?

for recon or for light spg or td?

[half belfry]

what is a good light cruiser template and subrmarine?

[last arch]

light tank divisions aren’t great

[last arch]

stack light attack and armor on cruisers and just put your best torpedo and snorkel/tiles (tiles are better) on subs + best engine for both

[glacial steeple]

what music do you guys like?

[glacial steeple]

you forgot the part where you annex places for eco and how puppet troops are just ai troops and so wont do much better than 1-1 odds xP

[slate nimbus]

how do i get rid of high resistence???

[half glade]

lmao i suck

how do i annex them

[glacial steeple]

well its ok

just when you have puppets

remember their units are at best equal to enemy ai units

[half glade]

i cant get them low enough

to annex

[glacial steeple]

so treat them as that

[half glade]

i had to skill vs spam vs slovenia lol

how do i effectively annex them

[glacial steeple]

build, lend lease

[half glade]

okay ill try building

[glacial steeple]

in case of austria instead of doing puppet decisions you do annex decisions iirc

[half glade]

oh really

puppetting is way easier

[glacial steeple]

yeah and way worse XD

[bronze grove]

Move your cursor over the resistance % so a tooltip appears and can show why resistance is high

[half glade]

AND IM DEAD AGAIN

OH MY DAYS

IM GOING TO CRY

[glacial steeple]

relax

its a video game

[half glade]

i just wanna win

300 hours and i cannot win effectively

genuinely

[hoary glen]

No way you only get 12 Mils by 39 with all those annexations. Tho if you get <20 mils you can't do air m8

[glacial steeple]

thats pretty average for hoi

ngl

[half glade]

theyre not annexations

yeah but its just so annoying

i cant win a single game

i just want some enjoyment

give me dopamine hoi4

[hoary glen]

Don't tell me the puppet type does not give you factories

[glacial steeple]

personal union does not

[half glade]

austro hungarian vassal

[last arch]

puppetting + taking resource and civ rights can be better

[glacial steeple]

rarely

[half glade]

yeah im restarting

[hoary glen]

Don't play that shitty path then 😆

[half glade]

this damn stupid game

somebody please give me some units

cause i clearly cant do air

[glacial steeple]

also hi patrick

maybe i will play 1 hoi4 game today to see how washed i am

[hoary glen]

Hiii Casey!!

[half glade]

and dont give me some spg impossible to get more than 1 unit by 1942 division

just some easy ass infantry or something

[hoary glen]

Tanu Tuva WC now

(pls don't)

[last arch]

it’s either that or special forces

[glacial steeple]

yeah we can do that

[glacial steeple]

rn im listening music https://youtu.be/zXQwQahPlmQ?si=I1n1HoauHqyUuoM2

[hoary glen]

16w support Arty and AA

[half glade]

i never want to use special forces in my life

[last arch]

why lol

[half glade]

okay thanks

[last arch]

if you have arms against tyranny they’re pretty good for how cheap they are

[slate nimbus]

says this but i still got no idea how to change that, i put my garrisons on high priority equipment supply

[glacial steeple]

do you want me to stream a single vanilla hoi game as any nation of your choice for you and show you how to win braindeadedly

[half glade]

because i can genuinely make 2 of them

i want more than 2 units by 1974

[last arch]

if you want good units your gonna get less out

[half glade]

that would be amazing

[glacial steeple]

rn or later

[half glade]

yeah but then what do i even do

i cant micro big frontlines

[glacial steeple]

as long as its better than like liberia it shouldnt be hard

[last arch]

other than that the best you should generally do for infantry is 16-18w with support artillery and AA

[half glade]

i cant micro

[last arch]

you don’t need to with 2 units

[half glade]

right now

[half glade]

so WHAT do i do

[glacial steeple]

ill be in vc 1

broo idk why it wont let me speak

[half glade]

i joined

i cant listen right now

because my stupid speakers arent working

we can do another time if you want?

[glacial steeple]

broo idk what it is it just wont let me speak

in general

its not about you

[tight tangle]

Should I

[half glade]

ohh okay

[cold bloom]

Doesnt really matter

[glacial steeple]

ok its just not working

idk why

[half glade]

its okay

i just sucj

[half belfry]

is war gonna be easier whit the dlcs?

[half glade]

i wanna win

give me a template

16w?

are they actually good for attacking

[last arch]

technically

the meta inf template right now is 16/17/18 width inf with support artillery and AA, MP and field hospital support companies with support equipment turned off in the equipment tab of the div

that’s realistically your best inf div

but it’s also not the greatest for pushing, and you always want either good air or dedicated pushing units (tanks or SF)

[half glade]

turned off???

like genuinely

[half glade]

pushing units are so hard to make

[glacial steeple]

no lol

[last arch]

the battalion modifiers stay even if the divs don’t have the equipment, so you get the buffs w/o spending equipment

[glacial steeple]

theres some things

but like thats not correct

[last arch]

what’s not correct

[half glade]

what is correct

whats my easiest option for pushing

[glacial steeple]

18w is decent at defense

not good at attack at all

and like builds matter

research matters

battle modifiers matter

templates are like eh

[neat widget]

I think hedge was talking about defense

[obtuse anchor]

😭

[half glade]

what do i even do here

why did the swiss hate me

[uncut narwhal]

pull some divs back

try using good mountaineers

wait for them to tire themselves out

and then counter attack

and watch out for commie germany

[half glade]

i cant bro

i genuinely cant

i have no good divs

i dont even know anymore

[uncut narwhal]

your also missing your equipment

so dont attack gng

your not even winning

stop attacking

[half glade]

im not attacking

[frozen loom]

how to win please help

[uncut narwhal]

you were in the screenshot

but just dont

and pull back some units

you dont have supply

[frozen loom]

This isn't like rise of nations on roblox guys what do i do

[half glade]

now im stuck at war with switzerland

not helpful

[uncut narwhal]

i really dont know what to tell you

[half glade]

i know i just suck

this happens every game

[hazy quiver]

Try to learn with yt if someone tell you you won't learn for the next fight look at hoi4 tutorial and the yt tutorial and learn the basic

[uncut narwhal]

then just think ahead and plan

[half glade]

i couldnt plan this ahead

how was i supposed to know

[uncut narwhal]

happens fairly often, but you couldnt know that

whats your equipment

what are you missing

[half glade]

maybe i just quit

[uncut narwhal]

go up on conscription if you are fully mobilized

[frozen loom]

The advice is to go on the offensive but when i do nothing ever happens

[uncut narwhal]

and whats your template

[frozen loom]

It either leads me to losing or a stalemate

[uncut narwhal]

just watch tutorials

[frozen loom]

Why do i need to watch a tutorial for the tutorial

[half glade]

im on partial

[uncut narwhal]

hoi4 is kinda complex in the beginning

[uncut narwhal]

thats your eco law

[half glade]

whats mob

[frozen loom]

Dude the official one is an hour long

[neat widget]

let them exhaust themselves with force attack btw

[uncut narwhal]

hover over your manpower

[frozen loom]

And i did watch some of it but in the end i keep losing

[half glade]

okay trying

[uncut narwhal]

brother your on volunteer only

go up

dawg

bro

[half glade]

okay

[uncut narwhal]

go up to extensive

conscription

[hazy quiver]

Okey get ALL the Italy unit and air at least 22 on the mountains and 24 in the desert (the mountains unit in the mountains) get air in 1 of the tile and offensive line in both the mountains and desert (in the general put them on the 3 truck icon) and you win

[dusty sandal]

fix supply and design units that actually have stats that make them able to perform in mountains and that have at least 200brk and at least 300 soft atk

[half glade]

this is so much easier said than done

[half glade]

alright

[neat widget]

eh you won't get 300 soft attack in 1940, but 200 break should be doable

[dusty sandal]

you went into a war unprepared, that's what happens when you do that

it gets hard

[half glade]

they declared on me!!!

[dusty sandal]

then bait them, let them push

fall back so they spread out, cut them off and kill them

[uncut narwhal]

with good mountaineers you can push them from the frontline

[half glade]

will that not just like destroy me

[dusty sandal]

let them run around

[half glade]

i can literally only make one mountaineer div

[half glade]

okay well if this goes terribly wrong

i quit

[uncut narwhal]

just convert your horrible cavalry/light tanks into inf

and wait

[dusty sandal]

then you take this and encircle them

[uncut narwhal]

wait for manpower

[dusty sandal]

also yeah, no manpower = your units are as good as none

[half glade]

and how do i take that

AND NOW GERMANY HATE ME

BECAUSE THEYVE GONE COMMUNIST

3 TIMES IN A ROW

OH MY GOD

[uncut narwhal]

just set them to not go next time

only real solution sadly

[half glade]

i guess

theyre not even coming

aaaand its over

3 times now

3 whole times

im going to lose

my mind

[uncut narwhal]

why is slovakia independent

[half glade]

WHO KNOWS

genuinely who knows

[neat widget]

what did i tell you

[uncut narwhal]

ok next time just rush the annex and prep for germany

you can also get some tanks

out

[half glade]

im helpless at this point

im gonna take 20

and ill be back

[last arch]

well in a meta vanilla game you also wouldn’t use infantry on offense at all

[dusty sandal]

in meta vanilla you'll probably only use inf and CAS

[half glade]

okay im back

i got bored

[last arch]

you would use 36w tanks and 32.4ish mountaineers/mountaineer marines

[half glade]

somebody inspire me

[last arch]

all dlcs?

[half glade]

yeah

[dusty sandal]

CAS is horrifically broken right now

[spiral parcel]

just play modded

[half glade]

not until im good at base game

[last arch]

yeah

[frozen loom]

What

[dusty sandal]

you can push 32width org wall with 1k stats with a swarm of 12width pure inf if you have CAS right now

[frozen loom]

Why do i have to micro so hard just to win a war in a tutorial

[spiral parcel]

tutorial is dogshit watch some yt vid

[frozen loom]

What tile

[dusty sandal]

you don't have to micro, but it's easier if you do

ethiopia can be killed easily if you use your planes

[frozen loom]

I am using them

[dusty sandal]

I tested it a few weeks ago for someone that claimed otherwise
I killed them by march 36

[frozen loom]

I made an arrow to the middle of ethiopia

[hazy quiver]

Okey just pls look for tutorial for the tutorial XD (but now for real one you know the basic the game is not that hard)

[last arch]

imperial germany is pretty fun

[frozen loom]

No the game is insanely hard why did i download this

I have 2.2 hours on the tutorial

[glacial steeple]

inf battleplan has been borderline meta for ages idk about now

[dusty sandal]

watch the range, bring reinforcements, the only micro you probably need to drastically increase your chances is to use the 3 divs you get once you annex the sultanate of aussa so you get the supply hub

[hazy quiver]

And I learn for 5h its just time

[half glade]

i dont wanna play that though

i wanna play austria hungary

and rule europe

[frozen loom]

Where's that

[last arch]

invest in military production

[dusty sandal]

the hub or the range ?

[frozen loom]

What tutorial to the tutorial do i watch

Both

[half glade]

what is the method for building an army

[dusty sandal]

range is the circle that appears when you select an airwing
the supply hub is the tile next to uk border right under aussa's territory

[half glade]

somebody please give me a step by step

[last arch]

wdym

[frozen loom]

How do i bring reinforcements

[dusty sandal]

send in divs from the mainland
and attack from the two fronts

[frozen loom]

How do i transfer them to the front

[dusty sandal]

assign them to the order

check this https://youtu.be/QvHT121_lWQ

might be a newer version on the same channel

[frozen loom]

What chapters do i skip to

[dusty sandal]

honestly you should watch it all

there's an "advanced" tutorial as well that explains in depth army mechanics

[frozen loom]

It is 40 minutes long.

[dusty sandal]

well, unless you understand the mechanics, you will learn stuff

[frozen loom]

Is it stuff worth watching 40 minutes for? No.

[dusty sandal]

I know it's not pure fun, but if you want quick progress without much learning curve, there's no faster process than playing in competitive multiplayer and watching guides

[frozen loom]

I need chapters

[dusty sandal]

there are chapters though
on the "advanced" guide too

[frozen loom]

Yeah so give me the prerequisites of the army chapter

[dusty sandal]

I don't know the guides by heart bro 😭

you'll need to figure stuff out yourself like on any other strategy game, you can't just wait for everyone to tell you the exact thing to do

the best advice I give to new player is "read and pay attention"

[frozen loom]

What do i read when the green bubble starts tweaking colors

[slate nimbus]

excuse me but what would be the best destroyer ship design for combat? or at least decent enough

[dusty sandal]

click on the bubble and read the tooltips

[slate nimbus]

you click them

[frozen loom]

Tweaking colors

[dusty sandal]

see a red icon ? must be important, better hover over it and read the tooltip !
see an alert at the top of your screen ? Seems important if placed there, better click on it and read what it means to know what to do
See your divs struggling in combat ? better open the bubbles and hover over the data to kjnow why's that

[merry sedge]

took me so long to find out how to do it xD

[dusty sandal]

congrats !

[merry sedge]

thx

[frozen loom]

I think tweaking is the wrong word here, for I meant twitching; rapidly switching between red and green.