ask-for-help-here

[sonic iron]

idk they are the devs not me

[austere roost]

increase your army quality so they won't stay long enough to not get reinforce memed

[sonic iron]

I have bittersteel's templates

can't get better quality than that

[kindred needle]

If I do the monarchist Portugal path will I be able to flip fascist later

[austere roost]

his templates aren't the highest quality

[left glacier]

[sonic iron]

I am sorry but how can you be both transgender and gay

no offense

just wondering

[austere roost]

also researching radio tech and improving air situation makes it easier

[sonic iron]

gng this isn't my first time playing hoi4 I've researched all of that

[austere roost]

you don't even need to be trans or gay to put those flags on

[shy schooner]

Is invading any country that won’t make You an enemy of the allies as Germany early worth it?

[sonic iron]

depends

when I was newer I used to invade belgium first so it would be easier to take France

[austere roost]

well then just suck it up or improve your divisions

[vital flax]

I had a problem with supplies playing as japan. I captured rabaul and northern new guinea, but I don't have many supplies even if I have 300+ convoys. Do I need to build a naval supply hub and a naval headquarter in truk to supply troops in nearby areas??

[shy schooner]

I see

[sonic iron]

usually worked well

[cobalt sluice]

im new to the game can anyone recommend me a good turorial video youtube?

[kindred needle]

Dw its perfectly fine to ask questions

I am a trans woman and I have a girlfriend

[shy schooner]

Alr
Will try it
Since Their country is small as hell

[sonic iron]

any of Bittersteel's videoes

he is nr 1 content creator on hoi4

[cobalt sluice]

thanks

[sonic iron]

yeah you should be in Brussels for supper

[kindred needle]

Are signal companies actually worth it or no

[sonic iron]

they are expensive but they deal a great soft attack bonus, very good for tanks

depends on your industry

[shy schooner]

Uhh
Why My armies won’t go there

[sonic iron]

yeah it is a demilitarized place, you need to do the "Remilitarize the Rhineland" focus first

[shy schooner]

Oh yeah

I frgot

[sonic iron]

then your troops can walk freely there

[shy schooner]

I’m having that focus on process rn

[pearl tapir]

how to prevent mouse button getting broken because its getting used very much in this game? (happend to me 🙁 i have to get a new one)

[languid trout]

invade the netherlands instead

puppet indonesia

[sonic iron]

then japan will attack

not a good idea

[languid trout]

thats fine

u get to take japan for free

[sonic iron]

yes but she is pretty new I think

[languid trout]

by the time u will start preparing to invade japan youd already have taken the british navy

[sonic iron]

I didn't learn naval invasions before like 200 hours

[shy schooner]

Idk if it would be easy or not but
I conquered France before

[shy schooner]

I alr done that
To invade Sweden for tungsten for Panzer

[languid trout]

u still get more from invading the netherlands

[sonic iron]

ohhh ok

[languid trout]

sure u get a direct border from france but you're going to kill them anyway

[shy schooner]

Still
Idk if invading Japan would be easy

[languid trout]

and the congo doesnt have as much resources as indonesia as far as i know

[sonic iron]

do you have a compotent fleet?

[sonic iron]

ik

[languid trout]

they are easy

[sonic iron]

japan is easy if you have the fleet to get there

[languid trout]

i recommend going through the japanese army in china first

[sonic iron]

nooooo

[shy schooner]

Not yet
I’m still at 36
Planning to build “german special force” with tanks

[sonic iron]

dont do that

[languid trout]

so that the japanese army will be weak

[languid trout]

if u go through japan instantly

[sonic iron]

leave china to be

[languid trout]

u get 0 war score

and china takes everything\

[shy schooner]

I’m a panzer addict :3

[languid trout]

i meant

u get mil access from china

so u can help them against japan

[sonic iron]

yes but their whole army is busy in china

[languid trout]

not kill them obviously

[languid trout]

thats the point

thats why u wanna do it there

so u can grind war score

[sonic iron]

yeah so it is a walk in the park

[languid trout]

and also reduce their army

[sonic iron]

if you take china's japanese troops they will just stack up in mainland japan

[languid trout]

thats the reason u wanna help china first

[languid trout]

no they wont

they wont if u encircle them

[sonic iron]

what you wanna do is incircle Tokyo then go to china

make sure japan is on its knees praying

[languid trout]

fair

[sonic iron]

like the trick you do with london

[languid trout]

i thought u meant something else

[shy schooner]

Alr
Will do Netherlands after Belgium and helped Nationalist Spain
Hope the allies won’t get angry and target My convois </3

[languid trout]

eupen is painful to push through

just go through netherlands first

[sonic iron]

just watch your world tension

[shy schooner]

Eupen?

[languid trout]

also id justify on indonesia to kill the dutch and congo for belgium if i were u

[sonic iron]

if you have done over 10% then the allies will intervene, if world tension is 24+

[languid trout]

the border

[shy schooner]

Owh

Well
1 problem
I’m alr justifying war agains’t Belgium

[shy schooner]

Uh oh
8% rn

[languid trout]

restart

[shy schooner]

Okay

[languid trout]

like the run

because u cant kill netherlands and belgium anymore

[shy schooner]

I got save on 1 january
Like
Right after I done setup

[shy schooner]

So

1. I kill netherlands
   Puppet dutch indies
2. help nationalist spain

[languid trout]

saving spain is optional but ok

[shy schooner]

My friend said it’s very good for experience

[languid trout]

yeah

it is

[shy schooner]

• I always get a veteran after helping Them

Free 2 veterans

Just need to encircle madrid

[languid trout]

u can send volunteers to republicans instead to keep the war up longer

[shy schooner]

And then let AI do itself

[shy schooner]

Eh?
Why would I? For more experience?

[languid trout]

u dont need to micro in spain

the point of it is xp

[languid trout]

yes

u just need to battleplan in spain and thats it

[shy schooner]

I see
So They don’t need to win

Very evil plan
Using Spain for Our benefits
I like it

[languid trout]

btw i dont recommend sending high level generals to spain

send generals that are like level 1 or 2 that have decent or mid stats

[shy schooner]

Okay

I will find level 1 or 2 that have buff for inf exp

[languid trout]

panzer experts are also good

i recommend panzer experts because u should be using tanks in the future

[shy schooner]

But uhh
I will only giv inf volunteers
I don’t want to lose My panzers

[languid trout]

its fine

[shy schooner]

And also
I only got 1 lv 2 general with no trait
So I choose the most below level 3 that have inf exp boost

[uncut rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UadQ3euApmM this?

[sonic iron]

oh my GOD this reinforce meme is so annoying

it keeps ruining my games

GOD this is like the 9th time in 20 minutes

[shy schooner]

Uhhh
My volunteers is getting transfered back

Is this a bad thing

[lavish steppe]

Did the war ended?

[shy schooner]

Nope

[glacial steeple]

your divs have too high width

or too low reinforce rate

so you get pushed

unless you mean just enemies reinforcing into battle, then it isnt a reinforce meme

[lavish steppe]

Did you do anything else?

[glacial steeple]

thats just them reinforcing into a battle where you dont deal enough attack

[shy schooner]

At war with Netherlands

[lavish steppe]

Did you switch the theatre?

[shy schooner]

Nope

[lavish steppe]

Can you send them back?

[shy schooner]

Holy

The war with Netherlands so easy

It don’t even feel like a war

😭

[lavish steppe]

What did you even expect

[shy schooner]

Lemme see

[lavish steppe]

They are weak

[shy schooner]

Idk
Netherlands is strong from what I know lol
Or maybe
They too greedy
And used all power for colonize
1% defense

[sonic iron]

nah these are completely normal 18 combat widths frontline units

with support engineers, artillery and AA

[hexed birch]

Is this a good tank template based on the time period and against AI?

[sonic iron]

should do the trick but I would cut out the field hospital

[hexed birch]

Should I replace it with AA maybe?

[sonic iron]

you already have plenty of manpower and tank divisions don't take too much casualties

[sonic iron]

yeah I would do that if I were you

[lavish steppe]

Yes

[sonic iron]

helps alot

[hexed birch]

Okay thanks

[glacial steeple]

well their stats must suck, or youre getting CASed a lot

[sonic iron]

if you have superior air I guess you could take signal company or something instead but if not AA is the greatest choice

[glacial steeple]

either way its a major issue

[sonic iron]

nah they have no airplanes up

[glacial steeple]

looks pretty decent

[sonic iron]

and they are level 3 trained

[glacial steeple]

are they equipped, do they have bad equipment

check top right army tab

[fathom thistle]

holy wideschreen, yeah dont listen to that guy keep the hospitals, hp is king, as for the actual line replace normal tanks with spgs, replace support arty with flame tanks

[glacial steeple]

next to speed bar

[sonic iron]

greatly equiped

[sonic iron]

gng Ik how to check logistics

[glacial steeple]

the army tab, not the logistics tab

where you can see what equipment is actually in your army

[sonic iron]

I already told you I have great supply

they are 100 or 99% strength

nothing else

[glacial steeple]

yes, so i want to know the army tab

it doesnt show what strenght % they have

or deficits

it shows whats in them

like in detail

[sonic iron]

Ik

[languid trout]

because u went to war

[scenic nacelle]

How big is your screen

[languid trout]

either that or the civil war ended

[sonic iron]

they are fully supplied

I told you

[shy schooner]

Which one is better for Blitzkrieg?

[shy schooner]

War
With netherlands

[sonic iron]

many people say armored spearhead but I love streamlined deployment

personal favorite

[lavish steppe]

Lowk depends on your play style

[languid trout]

i usually use streamlined deployment as well

i tend to use sp arty

[fathom thistle]

u using spgs? then streamlined

[shy schooner]

Spgs?

[languid trout]

tank artillery

[shy schooner]

Owh

[languid trout]

go to tank designer

[fathom thistle]

that

[languid trout]

click medium tank text

[glacial steeple]

bro

i dont think you get it

[languid trout]

switch it to "artillery"

thats sp artillery

[glacial steeple]

i want to know what types of guns they use

[languid trout]

or spg

[surreal socket]

if you click the little book in the bottom right it will show you more information on what it gives

[glacial steeple]

if you fill combat width

[languid trout]

or whatever u call it

[glacial steeple]

stuff like that

[shy schooner]

Now how do I gain resource from german east indies

[sonic iron]

trade

[fathom thistle]

trade it from them, puppets give way much more resource per civ factory

[sonic iron]

you can get like 80 steel for 1 civilian factory

[languid trout]

just tell him to click the left button on the 3 buttons in the top right

i dont think he knows that

[glacial steeple]

i did

[languid trout]

oh

[shy schooner]

For wtv reason I can’t find Them on trade menu

[languid trout]

click puppets

[austere roost]

Yes

[languid trout]

i think there was a button to see only ur puppets in trade

i remember

it was in the trade screen

[languid trout]

subject

thats what it was

[shy schooner]

Yeah I did

[austere roost]

Streamlined is the only good one without dlc

[languid trout]

how come u cant see indonesia there

check if they r still ur puppet

[glacial steeple]

closed eco, low exports, game needs to update, route blocked, resource rights

[shy schooner]

They are still a puppet

[languid trout]

i forgot about closed eco

also judging from it i dont think he put resource rights

[glacial steeple]

they go on it ASAP since they run out of steel

same for siam AI

[languid trout]

especially from his rubber deficit

[glacial steeple]

tbf ussr does it too over tungsten

[languid trout]

idk if making them integrated puppet helps

[austere roost]

In closed you can still trade with your puppets right?

[languid trout]

yes

[glacial steeple]

no

[languid trout]

oh wait u mean guns

[glacial steeple]

not if your puppet is closed

[languid trout]

i thought he meant he was the one with closed

[austere roost]

I've never seen siam/malaya/Indonesia go closed however

[languid trout]

just go to a save before u capped the dutch and in the peacedeal put resource rights on everything including curacao

curacao has oil

[glacial steeple]

its possible is all

i cant see the game

[shy schooner]

I fixed it

[languid trout]

id also recommend u put resource rights on puppet netherlands

[shy schooner]

It’s cuz

[languid trout]

ok

[shy schooner]

I choose 2 other

Random countries

Other than indies

As puppet

[languid trout]

u still puppeted indonesia though

[shy schooner]

Yesh
Idk why but
When I load
And not choose 3 other random country
I can finally trade with My puppet

[languid trout]

i think they were just on closed eco

[shy schooner]

I see

Wouldn’t it be better
If I just take states and free resource tho
Even tho it reduces man power

[languid trout]

if i were u id go back to the peacedeal save though

[languid trout]

no

if u annex

u get less resources

because of 0 compliance

[shy schooner]

Uhhh okay

What do I do now

[glacial steeple]

more dependings on compliance lol

[sonic iron]

puppets are always better if you ask me

[languid trout]

id recommend u do that

[glacial steeple]

nah

usually annexing is wayy better

fascist puppets are ok tho

not great by any means

[languid trout]

so u get more civs to use\

[sonic iron]

noo when we are talking about puppets in asia when you are in europe

[austere roost]

puppets are only there to shorten the frontline

[shy schooner]

So

1. annex netherlands
2. puppet indies
   That’s all right?

[sonic iron]

you would have to send units to defend indonesia

[glacial steeple]

no

[languid trout]

u could puppet the dutch but sure

[sonic iron]

british malaya? australia?

[glacial steeple]

unless you wanna cap raj and malaysia

then send units

[languid trout]

ur going to turn them into an rk sooner or later anyway

[glacial steeple]

rks 😭

[shy schooner]

Okay

[glacial steeple]

nooo

[sonic iron]

indonesia would just fall

[fathom thistle]

also declare on indies to get less war tension

[glacial steeple]

so?

[sonic iron]

kinda ruins the point of getting indonesia if it will just fall

[glacial steeple]

you shouldve won the game by then

[glacial steeple]

the only reason you do it is if you wanna win the game by like 38 with early air production

[shy schooner]

Uhhh
Declare?

Like
Declare war?

[languid trout]

war

[fathom thistle]

Yes. If you plan to annex Netherland declare on indies instead to get less tension

[sonic iron]

I mean who wants to win so quickly

letting britain be is much more fun

[glacial steeple]

you apparently by taking indonesia

[shy schooner]

Wouldn’t that make Me not get resource from Them

[languid trout]

why

[glacial steeple]

indonesia will just get convoy raided, you need refineries

[sonic iron]

cause like it feels more realistic

[languid trout]

why would u let britain run around and raid ur convoys and spam naval invasions

why

[sonic iron]

I don't play to win quickly then do it again

I play to like fight a war

like a world war

[fathom thistle]

No. Netherlands will join anyway cuz it's their puppet but since you declared on indies you get less global tension so you might be able to invade one more country before tension hits 25%

[languid trout]

so ur saying youd just never naval invade britain

[sonic iron]

feels much more fun to like actually play the game

[sonic iron]

at some point I would

but not in 1940

[fathom thistle]

You can still puppet indies in peace conference

[shy schooner]

Ah
I see
Too late tho xD

[languid trout]

phew

[fathom thistle]

Welp

For future

[languid trout]

i dont think youd want to suffer having usa against u thats essentially just another britain but much harder to kill

unless you wanna larp

[shy schooner]

Really? I thought Britain is like
No.3 strongest

[sonic iron]

but that's the fun of the game

I don't want it to be easy

[shy schooner]

1 and 2 is soviet and reich

[languid trout]

doesnt matter because u can beat them as nearly any nation with content

[shy schooner]

I see

[languid trout]

just as long as u have a decent navy

[sonic iron]

if you just land in britain's mainland they are dead

[wise heron]

how do i get prozximity fuze?

anyonbe knows?

[sonic iron]

they focus way more on africa and asia

[languid trout]

because britain doesnt guard their coasts with their navy strongly

[wise heron]

quickly please

[languid trout]

not if they are anything but democratic

[shy schooner]

It’s 22% rn :D

[languid trout]

the homeguard in london exists

[shy schooner]

Shouldn’t be problem ig

[languid trout]

you can still crush them though

[tired moon]

how do i actually like get my ships? I produce them but like 2 make it to me

[sonic iron]

I mean if they are commie and decolonizes sure but I never play A-historical

[languid trout]

why not

ahistorical is fun

[sonic iron]

I have landed in britain before and only faced 3 troops

[languid trout]

u never know what really happens

[sonic iron]

yeah but it is very annoying for me

[languid trout]

so u get new scenarios

[tired moon]

also how does the torpedo destroyer thing work? someone told me about it and for some reason it doesnt really work for me

[sonic iron]

I like to know what is coming

[languid trout]

thats the point

[sonic iron]

I play for fun not to be annoyed

besides I only have 2 dlcs

not much happens

[languid trout]

oh

[sonic iron]

I have played a few times

[languid trout]

no wonder

[hexed birch]

Should I be setting a preferred tactic for my generals btw? Or is it something I can ignore against AI? Any recommendations for Panzer generals?

[tired moon]

can someone help with this

the british just destroy any ship i have

[sonic iron]

you need to assign them to an admiral or navy group

[tired moon]

isnt this it

[languid trout]

breakthrough

[sonic iron]

click on navy and show the right side of your screen

[tired moon]

this?

[sonic iron]

yes you have 2 down there that isn't assigned

[tired moon]

oh yeah i made a save before i assigned them

[red mesa]

subs mixed with surface ships

[tired moon]

i remember someone telling me to make destroyers with torpedoes or smth to beat the british

[tired moon]

whats wrong with that

[languid trout]

it makes them slower

it makes ur taskforces slower

[red mesa]

everything

[languid trout]

never put ur subs with surface ships

[tired moon]

how do I not do that

[languid trout]

select taskforce

right click submarines

click that first option

idk what its called i forgot

[shy schooner]

Uhhh
One of My annexed country is kinda cooked if I got ww2

[tired moon]

sorry i dont speak hoi4

[random panther]

does anybody have a good lategame marine division template

[languid trout]

taskforce is like those things in the navy menu

yk

the symbols with numbers on them

[tired moon]

these?

[languid trout]

yes but theres also in the naval theater

the top right

[tired moon]

so I click the submarines

right

[languid trout]

in each row, the first one (left to right) selects all the taskforces from 2nd to ones after it

[languid trout]

in here the subs are the ones with the submarine icons

[tired moon]

so i right click and disband them?

[languid trout]

id usually deathstack all the submarines and surface ships together into one taskforce each

[languid trout]

no

[tired moon]

when i right click them it just tells me if i want to disband 🤷

wait

[languid trout]

u can also do this with any other hull (ship type)

[tired moon]

i cant read

[languid trout]

nono

[tired moon]

this menu

i click ok

[languid trout]

u right click on the left menu

[tired moon]

WHAT IS LEFT MENU

[languid trout]

not on the theater menu

u can keep them as they are

[languid trout]

the one that shows up when u click a taskforce

[tired moon]

These

[languid trout]

yes

never put submarines and surface ships in the same taskforce

[tired moon]

now right click where

[languid trout]

ur fine

[tired moon]

i didnt do anything tho how am i fine 😭

[random panther]

is this enough to land on britain 👀

[languid trout]

to combine taskforces, shift + click multiple taskforces and then right click one of those taskforces

[tired moon]

i just selected the submarines

[languid trout]

because u didnt combine sub taskforces with surface ship taskforces

so thats good

[tired moon]

so do I just like assign a new admiral to subs

[languid trout]

yeah

u could do that

also if ur wondering

[tired moon]

so what is the magic trick i need to beat britain

[languid trout]

to make a taskforce do a mission, click one of those buttons that shows up above the navy buttons

[tired moon]

ik

[languid trout]

invade from north sea

[tired moon]

k

[languid trout]

specifically

[tired moon]

are you sure

i should try that

as france

[languid trout]

oh what

naval invade via channel then

[tired moon]

btw is there a meta scary weird template design for destroyers or smth that makes them destroy the british

[languid trout]

no

however

if u wanna destroy the british

[random panther]

ok i think this should work

[languid trout]

build a bunch of light cruisers with huge amounts of light attack

[tired moon]

im getting conflicting answers

some other ppl are telling me to use destroyers with torpedoes

[languid trout]

no

to destroy the british navy, u destroy their heavier ships

[sonic iron]

uhh

[languid trout]

and those heavy ships are protected by light ships (destroyers)

[random panther]

in the soft attack i trust

[sonic iron]

good luck is all I have to say

[subtle socket]

torp dds

[tired moon]

so what template thing do I make

[languid trout]

even if u have a ship with huge amounts of heavy attack against a heavy ship with a ton of destroyers, ur ship will lose

[austere roost]

It's nice for meme purposes

[languid trout]

cruiser with a ton of light attack

as much as possible

[subtle socket]

ma brother u have a negative naval invasion adjuster with marines

this is not cooking

[languid trout]

and spam that

[tired moon]

ik

[subtle socket]

just make torp dda

u have the tech as france

[tired moon]

what is torp dda

[subtle socket]

engine 3s on torps

torp destoyer

[random panther]

i have nearly 400 hours on this game but ive never actually bothered learning the navy and now im screwed

[subtle socket]

i mean ur template

not the navy

[languid trout]

why

[tired moon]

what template

[subtle socket]

bottom right of ur template theres adjusters for naval invasion

[subtle socket]

torpedos are thanos now

[shy schooner]

Do I choose speer goring or todt

[tired moon]

there isnt?

[subtle socket]

max torpdos nothing else pretty self explanatory

[subtle socket]

talking to 2 people here

[languid trout]

i dont believe it yet

[tired moon]

oh

[subtle socket]

play mp

[random panther]

nevermind im good

[tired moon]

is there like an image of the template

[subtle socket]

152 battle ships

[languid trout]

he aint in mp

[subtle socket]

def not cheated btw

[languid trout]

this is sp

[random panther]

dwdw

[subtle socket]

yes but mp players min max everything

[random panther]

only uh

[subtle socket]

including building the cheapest ic for the best output

[random panther]

ic it ale uh

whatelse

[subtle socket]

that is destroyers rn

torp dds to be exact

light attack dds are good too

[tired moon]

when i tried torpedo destroyers the british literally wiped them off my game data immediately

[languid trout]

ok

[subtle socket]

show me the design

[tired moon]

i tried

[subtle socket]

take off the light attack just focus full torp and take off the aa

u can also do full light attack

dont mix

[austere roost]

Naval bombers prioritize big ships so aa is not important for small ships

[tired moon]

wheres light attack 😭 idk anything about water

[subtle socket]

ur module on the top left

hover over it

[austere roost]

Your cannons

[tired moon]

so do I replace it with more torpedoes

[subtle socket]

yes

[tired moon]

also do I upgrade the enginé

[subtle socket]

light attack is like soft attack it targets light ships heavy is light hard attck it targwts capitals torpedos used to be semi useless as they had very little piercing and would only damage capitals once the screening line was removed but in a recent patch the devs were funny and gave torpedos piercing

yes engine good

[languid trout]

oh so thats why

[tired moon]

also do I put radar when i can

[languid trout]

i didnt know the devs added torp piercing

[subtle socket]

yeah every patch the devs do atleast one funny thing where mp meta breaks lol..

atm its destroyers

[shy schooner]

Uhhh
Why I can’t edit or train SS troops

[tired moon]

now how do I get the ships in my navy actually

[languid trout]

because thats normal

u cant

u arent supposed to

[shy schooner]

Owh
Only Himler can?

[languid trout]

no

there is no himmler or ss ai

[shy schooner]

a

[languid trout]

u can control them and do whatever u want with them

[shy schooner]

Then how do I get more SS soldiers

[languid trout]

anything except delete them

[languid trout]

i dont think u can

[tired moon]

do I just assign dockyards to producing the ship and do nothing else

[shy schooner]

Rip

[tired moon]

?

[languid trout]

maybe put 1-5 dockyards on convoys

and then everything on the ships

[tired moon]

and the rest on the destroyers?

[austere roost]

Either set them to a port or to a fleet

[tired moon]

and how do I upgrade the rest of my destroyers

[austere roost]

You click on them and select the new design you want to upgrade to

The UI is pretty self explanatory there

[tired moon]

so if theres no upgrade button

[shy schooner]

Is getting himmler useless

[tired moon]

its upgraded already?

[tired moon]

i get todt and borrman

[austere roost]

Most likely you can check it by selecting the ships and clicking the upgrade button on the fleet tab

[tired moon]

so I got the ships, if i put them on the english channel with patrol thing, is that it

[austere roost]

Borrmann is useless

[tired moon]

idk i just click him

[austere roost]

Todt, Hess, Speer (replace todt /later) and then whatever you want

[ivory wraith]

Can you not get Mexico as usa anymore without Allies attacking or did I wait too long? Im now at war with the allies as usa
its apr 1940
am I supposed to attack before world tension is 100?

[neat widget]

yeah that's not my intention tbh

my intention is to 1v1 the UK

In any case AI Germany is probably screwed against a Norwegian player regardless

[mystic gyro]

so uh is it ok if i post a save game here trying to see if my save is just borked or if its just a me problem

[mystic gyro]

i hate that hellhole norway

mountains

just mountain tiles

how the germans took it irl i dont know

anyways @neat widget am i allowed to post a save here? trying to figure out why my games crashing when i load the save

[neat widget]

probably won't fit on discord

post it on https://disastersavior.com

and then link it to me

[mystic gyro]

aye aye

[unique tundra]

can anyone explain why my naval invasion isn't launching?

[neat widget]

idk, it should be

[unique tundra]

omg

i figured it out

i wasn't at war with the us

[mystic gyro]

https://disastersavior.com/disaster-saves/75e870ec-4fba-499c-a3b2-69f195d4e473/ @neat widget here ya go

no idea if its just me or the save got corrupted somehow

[shy schooner]

Is there a way to get more SS divs other than from SS recuit expand tree

[neat widget]

Okay that's weird

[neat widget]

it doesn't show up for me

[vital flax]

You can use a template from division designer, there is an option for waffen ss divisions names

[shy schooner]

Okay

Thankie

[hazy quiver]

What is better super heavy battle ship,land cruiser, intercontinental bomber?

[mystic gyro]

dead ass?

positive thats the right save

[twin tangle]

first time playing hoi in months and how the hell do i not have range there the port is litterally on the tile

[twin tangle]

no correlation

[rigid halo]

Super heavy battleship

[mystic gyro]

theres a new homeport option you have to use

alternatively build a naval supply hub

[twin tangle]

i have 1 factory lol (also it says i need lvl 8 port)

[twin tangle]

ill look into it

[neat widget]

super-heavy bb i imagine

[hazy quiver]

how good is land cruiser and intercontinental bomber?

[mystic gyro]

ok so take the malices from super heavy

double them

thats the landcruiser

[hazy quiver]

oh so its not that bad ig

[mystic gyro]

-70 percent on everything attack wise that isnt a fort isnt that bad?

[hazy quiver]

wait its -70%???

okey nvm

[mystic gyro]

i told you

take the malices

from super heavy

and double it

[hazy quiver]

i was thinking like its was 30% max

[mystic gyro]

n o

[hazy quiver]

oh...

[mystic gyro]

that shits like 40 in some areas

on super heavy

despite the fact that at least the ratte shouldve been able to more or less just not care about forests with how big it was planned to be

the fact the super heavy tanks will always ALWAYS be bad unless attacking a fort on a plains sucks

[hazy quiver]

and the bomber?

[mystic gyro]

excatly what it sounds like

bomb anything

from anywhere pmuch

[hazy quiver]

k ty

[neat widget]

Land cruiser is only -40% at most for most terrain types

-70% comes from amphibious bonus

which is typically more severe

[last arch]

land cruisers/super heavies are great on defensive units but pretty ass on offense

[thin girder]

iz this the most broken template

[pearl cypress]

kinda cooked or saveable?

im not that good at the game

[thin girder]

yhat is so saveable

if u fix ur templates and use planes and play smart

[pearl cypress]

whats a good template

and i dont understand anything about the planes

[last arch]

the germans got like 3x as far historically

your absolutely fine

[pearl cypress]

okay but how do i push them back?

[last arch]

wait

it’s 1939, unless you specifically built for a 39 war and have (at least somewhat) minmaxxed production then your not supposed to push them so early

that being said you probably can because they don’t have france or czechs

just battleplan them honestly

if it doesn’t work then wait a while deploy more try again

[merry sedge]

How exactly do I build up my navy in this game xDD, Everytime I try to do operation sealion my navy gets brutally destroyed in the english channel, how do I build up a navy strong enough to face the british?

[pearl cypress]

i was attacking poland, i had the baltics via the ft and they just started justifying out of nowhere

[fathom thistle]

you can start by refitting the ships you start with

since the starting design is shi

then you can just spam torpedo dd's

[merry sedge]

So I should focus on light cruisers with torpedos?

[fathom thistle]

dd's not cl's

[merry sedge]

I have no idea how navy works bttw

whats dd?

[fathom thistle]

destroyers

[merry sedge]

ahh

I´ve watched one tutorial so far and he was talking about stuff like screening and captial ships, do I have to watch out for anything there?

[fathom thistle]

you want schreening ships to protect your capitals yes

[strong rampart]

What is the best way to make CAS as USSR when they have no designated MIO?

[fathom thistle]

good start is 1:4 ratio

[merry sedge]

So I should build captial ships too?

and what counts as screening and captial

[fathom thistle]

you already have some as germany, just refit them

[fathom thistle]

anything bigger than dd and cl

[merry sedge]

alright and what about submarines?

[fathom thistle]

eh, if you want to convoy raid ig

I wouldnt really focus on them

[mystic gyro]

they asson defencetoo same malices

[merry sedge]

alright, how big should my navy be about so I can face the british?

[fathom thistle]

if you refit your starting ships and start building proper torpedo dd's soon you can easily invade them before 40

or even sooner

[merry sedge]

so after my invasion on france I should win?

thx gonna try it

[fathom thistle]

sure

[merry sedge]

are there meta designs I should look for or just dd´s with torpedos?

[merry sedge]

damn thx man, I really suffer on navy xDD gonna try to learn it a little

[shy schooner]

Is being dependant on SS bad

[austere roost]

Just use light mio, you'll just have cas with better fighter stats

[errant chasm]

Historically they only fielded like 38 divisions. But in game their templates are shit. Don't bother recruiting any SS divisions. They should have just been thrown in the normal division name list, gameplay wise imo.

[neat widget]

don't do dual purpose guns since they cost steel for some reason

that design will cost 6 steel per dockyard lmao

[neat widget]

ss?

save scumming?

[errant chasm]

I thought they meant SS divisions

[shy schooner]

I see
They are only loyalists
I only wanted to try play Them for fun
But if They are that bad then nvm lol

[errant chasm]

You don't get any loyal or ingame incentives or anything nope it's just a premade template using the division name, you could even make you own division with the SS namelist which makes it pointless anyways

[shy schooner]

German special force thing
Or more like special police

[shy schooner]

No
I mean They are only loyalists irl

Not that strong

I thought They would atleast be decent ingame lol

[molten creek]

yo could someone please help me get a hang of hoi4. i have 100 hrs in it and i just dont get some things, even youtube vids dont really help 😔

[errant chasm]

in game mechanics wise there is zero benefit to getting SS divisions period.

[shy schooner]

Yeah
I will just redo My run
And not select Himmler

Or however do You write His name

[neat widget]

ah yeah no i don't think they're good

aren't they like 5 militia?

[errant chasm]

wait himmler does increase your special forces caps and some generals and a spy iirc, anything else is secondary

[errant chasm]

also you could jsut kick him out of your inner circle

[shy schooner]

Ah
So using Him could be good
I’m using Speer Goebbels and Himmler

[shy schooner]

I see

[lament moat]

Does anybody know what I do with the red army for the tsarist civil war before it fires

[last arch]

it’s better to use todt early game

for the buffs he gives + his MIO

[shy schooner]

Idk if it’s still early game but
I’m at 97
Close to 98

[errant chasm]

i think it is 2 milita brigades, a truck brigade and 2 shitty tank divs iirc.

[last arch]

97?

[shy schooner]

I changed Him with speer when They ask Me to change ir stay

[shy schooner]

1997

Close to 1998

[fair hare]

WHAT

lol

[shy schooner]

Eh

Wait

[last arch]

yeah your still mid to early game

[fair hare]

todt my beloved

[shy schooner]

I mean 37

Close to 38

[fair hare]

lol

[shy schooner]

😭

[last arch]

i thought so lol

[fair hare]

then u should be doing mils only

[shy schooner]

Mils?

[last arch]

military factories

[fair hare]

military factory

[shy schooner]

Owh

[last arch]

and not only, you should also build some refineries for rubber

[shy schooner]

I’m building many roads and civ facts currently

[last arch]

bad idea

if you went right side eco

[shy schooner]

I alr puppet indies

I got many rubbers

[last arch]

the benefit of MEFO bills is that it gives you really good mil construction speed

[shy schooner]

Owh
So I should do roads + mils fac instead

[last arch]

just mils

[shy schooner]

Okay

[fair hare]

yes its only good if u do early switch to mils

[last arch]

germany has focuses that give them good infrastructure

[fair hare]

thats why current germ meta is to do late 36/early 37 switch

[fair hare]

i only build like 3-4 in the dam states

[last arch]

we do not need to abbreviate germany

[shy schooner]

Is it a good use of 4yp boost if I research 3rd dispersed industry

[last arch]

yeah

[shy schooner]

Aight peak

I also try to speed run panzer research boost
So I can get early Panzer III

[last arch]

do you have no step back

[shy schooner]

0 dlc

[last arch]

k that’s fine then

[fair hare]

yes thats good

[last arch]

with dlcs you never upgrade your tank chassis because they suck

but it’s worth doing without dlc

[shy schooner]

I see
Is getting anti tank worth it tho?

[last arch]

nah

[shy schooner]

Oki

[last arch]

the AI sucks

[cold fiber]

Why my stast is bad

[shy schooner]

So like early 37 I switch civ facts to mils

[fair hare]

cuz u are attacking through a naval crossing

[fair hare]

yes

[shy schooner]

Okay

[cold fiber]

whats that

how do I fix it then whit marines?

[fair hare]

if u want to refine that tank div make it have 2/3 more medium spg battallions and remove maintenance

[fair hare]

js attack a different tile if possible

with tanks/normal infantry u will not break that

[cold fiber]

thanks

btw my tanks would beat soviet or no?

[fair hare]

yes

if u have enough

[mystic gyro]

Weird i can only assume something in the save got corrupted?

Someone can probably look into it?

[errant chasm]

i suppose i can give a try

[errant chasm]

I got "Error loading save: Resource not found on the site" unfortunately.

[strong rampart]

But I cant use that for CAS... should i put some fighter gun on it too or??

[mystic gyro]

The hell? It is on my pc

[merry sedge]

why cant I refit my capital ships?

[neat widget]

yeah that's what i got

[errant chasm]

oof

[errant chasm]

the link leaks me to an error

[fathom thistle]

Not an issue for Germany really

It's meant to shoot like a lot of planes

Ig for sp you could get away with just normal batteries

[mystic gyro]

Weird hang on let me try to upload it again

trying to upload it here then

@neat widget @errant chasm

i got an error code

0xc00000fd

[austere roost]

You can, there's a path in the light mio that only buffs cas stats (even though it sucks)

[strong rampart]

I must be doing something wrong tho, because if I create just normal light CAS, there is no MIO to add, because the button is grey. So only through adding some gun but idk if thats not worse in the end through higher cost and lower weight available for bombs?

[mystic gyro]

I only used fps map wh8ch is something i only use to get me a few more frames

So basically no mods

[strong rampart]

There is MIO unlock in second research in air I thinkm but thats just for mediums I think. Also im playing with R56 so hopefully thats not changing any of this stuff

[austere roost]

Maybe it's rt56 then

Base game soviets have a light, medium, heavy, and naval mio

[obsidian badger]

Should i prioritize having generals leading my armies or field marshals leading groups

like is it worse to have no general or no field martial

[mystic gyro]

Weird

So i reatarted my pc for a update

And suddenly the saves working

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-techpriest-binaric-screeching-screeching-gif-20192683

Oh .

OH NO

It unassigned all my armies

[austere roost]

you should do both

[mystic gyro]

Oh

Now the army tab isnt showing the generals bit

Like theres no way to assign ti an army

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

IM NOT GOING THROUGH NORWAY AGAIN

No

N O

[obsidian badger]

Pretty unhelpful

what if i dont got enough generals

ehich one

[austere roost]

you can hire them

[obsidian badger]

Is more important

[obsidian badger]

What if no command power

[austere roost]

depends on the general/marshals that you have

marshals give half the numeric buffs and general trait buffs but general's marshal buffs do not apply to the general role except the +1 atk marshal trait

[obsidian badger]

so depends if i want a large mid force or a small good force

[austere roost]

who are you even playing as?

[mossy cape]

can someone tell me why my mods arent downloading

[warped river]

whats the best elite infantry template

Ive been trying to use some but they prove ineffective

[vital geode]

Do you have the game through steam

[subtle thorn]

helo im playing iran now with 10% war participaton should i take whole india cuz i can core or turkey beacuse of core?
and in military branch should i take 1.5% recrutable population or 5% att and def

[austere roost]

36w inf + support art + ranger recon + med flame + hospital + assault engineer (add line aa if you need it)

[vital geode]

Do what you can core

[subtle thorn]

i can core but cant take all since i have 10% war participation

[vital geode]

India has more manpower

[mystic gyro]

w...

[subtle thorn]

i mean grecce turkey india and egypt

[mystic gyro]

where

wheresthearmy window

??????????????????????

[vital geode]

Full-screen windowed exists

[mystic gyro]

sigh

[mystic gyro]

no

gamerunbetterwindowed

[vital geode]

Huh

[mystic gyro]

a lessoni learned LONG Ago

[subtle thorn]

its not fps game...

[vital geode]

Are you sure it isnt placebo

[mystic gyro]

yes for me i dont have LE EPIC GAMING PC

[vital geode]

You do know what placebo means, right

[mystic gyro]

so everyframe c ounts

yes

[vital geode]

I'm pretty sure it is that

[mystic gyro]

and ive done tests

[vital geode]

Because game should use the same amount of resources

[mystic gyro]

it doesnt

[vital geode]

Well, if you say so

[mystic gyro]

reason i know this is wayyyyyy back when saints row 4 came out

there was a known bug with one of its missions on slightly older pcs

where a mission wouldnt launch

you had to go out of full screen

anyways

WHERE THE hell did my army window go

[slate nimbus]

it doesnt exist

army? what army? pffft

theres no army in Oslo

[austere roost]

There's no war in ba sing se

[vital geode]

We were always at war with East Asia

[subtle thorn]

whats better 1.5% recrutable population or 5% attack and deffense

[vital geode]

Attack and defense imo

[harsh barn]

How do i get free america to join the confederacy of america if there both fighting communist america? As italy

[pastel yarrow]

Is there a channel wiyh tutorials and content on here

[rigid sonnet]

can i get spgs without no step back?

[subtle thorn]

mb its not defense its org 5% and attack

[vital geode]

Still good

[civic hare]

AND I THOGUHT IT COULDNT GET WORSE

[subtle thorn]

1965...

[shy schooner]

If I have non agg pact with France and invade Poland when it’s 1939
Will France revoke the non agg pact

[subtle thorn]

y

e

s

[shy schooner]

Aww

Can’t abuse it

[subtle thorn]

nope

[unreal sapphire]

How to win as Carlists

[subtle thorn]

france gets event and ai auto declares war insta

[shy schooner]

Ah
I see

[subtle thorn]

why didnt encircelment penalty count?

[unreal sapphire]

I think it's because there's still one area to retreat to

[uncut rose]

+how do you guys manage to remember all the ins and outs to doing well with a nation? All the designs etc

[neat widget]

encirclement penalty occurs when the enemy only has one tile to retreat to

[uncut rose]

<@&846894118219022336>

[kindred needle]

Do doctrine bonuses for mechanized apply to amtraks

[neat widget]

yeah

[twilit flax]

ive bought the NCNS dlc but for some reason it doesnt show ingames? its highlighted

what could be happening?

[harsh stone]

Can anyone help me Sealion? It is July 1940. I have 1500 fighter planes i can put over the UK, 800 bombers, 500 transports and 5 divisions of paras. But I cant get across

And if I do the paras get slaughtered

[iron veldt]

bombers aren’t going to help

what fighter planes are you using

[chrome breach]

does anybody have an anarchist spain guide

[thin nebula]

Theres a couple on youtube but if you want to get it done quick you can navak invade before doing anarchist spain and take out nationalist spain really quick

[eager orbit]

good stats for medium tanks?

division and tank

[thin nebula]

Then you can spam the gun buy decision to get guns and republican spain wont be able to keep up

[sand ember]

from the pins

I believe this is with howitzer 2, if you're using howitzer 1 it's probably more around 600-800

[harsh stone]

The 1936 ones

[sand ember]

you can make modifications for faster speed

[iron veldt]

are you editing it

[harsh stone]

No, just the regular

[iron veldt]

that’s why

do you have the plane designer DLC

well are you landing in britain or no

[harsh stone]

In like 20 replays of the save I was able to somehow land 1 time and I am not really sure how that happened lol

[harsh stone]

It is probably too late for me now right?

[iron veldt]

are you landing in britain at all

[eager orbit]

thanks!

[austere roost]

You should also add logistics into it

[eager orbit]

yeah i was gonna

[harsh stone]

So i keep replaying the same save. 1 time in like 20 tries i somehow got a landiny

Got annihilated tho

[iron veldt]

lmaoo

what are your paradropper templates

[harsh stone]

I recognize that they are definitely not great.

2 stacks of 3 paras + eng

I am starting to realize my situation is most likely completely hopeless yes? Lol

[red mesa]

Not necessarily but it sounds like your divs and planes suck

[harsh stone]

Yes

[red mesa]

You need a much more robust division and more + better planes. Target a port and isolate it while you ship regular troops and tanks over

Paras alone are not enough

[neat widget]

it's fine, you literally have a year to build up

that said you don't have enough paras, double that amount

[harsh stone]

Hmm this is interesting

[chrome breach]

nice lil 52% bonus

and czechoslovakia is still czechoslovakia in my game still

bro wtf is germany doing

it got the uk focusing on me and finland bruh

[neat widget]

get some more coal

[slate nimbus]

ngl how do i even get more coal

[keen hemlock]

research

propecting

trade

[lavish steppe]

Trade

[slate nimbus]

of course, trade, its always trade

[slate nimbus]

say, as Italy, how useful is the coal research

i needa know cus im always like at -11 coal

[austere roost]

How much coal are you producing now

[lavish steppe]

Lowk as any country it is usefull

[austere roost]

You can calculate how much more coal you'll get from research

[thin nebula]

Not really, you'd be better off just making for civs to trade

[slate nimbus]

with how long they take to build, seems unlikely

[slate nimbus]

i assume i need to multiply the production by the percentage of what the research says it adds

and how useful is it to build the power grids to alleviate that problem

[lavish steppe]

I dont think anyone in this game builds power grills

Grids*

[slate nimbus]

there probably is someone

[lavish steppe]

I really doubt it

[slate nimbus]

not trying to be optimal here, just wanna learn the gist of it rn, so im not worried much about speedrunning or minmaxing, etc etc etc

[lavish steppe]

Anyone wanna play?

[lavish steppe]

Are you new?

[slate nimbus]

relatively

[lavish steppe]

How many hours do you have

[slate nimbus]

115 hour which is definitely new for this game

[lavish steppe]

Yes it is

[slate nimbus]

so yes im somewhat of a beginner

[lavish steppe]

I have like 277 and I still dont know the good templates

Or navu

Navy*

[slate nimbus]

i dont know any templates, i just throw crap at the wall to see what sticks

[lavish steppe]

Aight bro thats what I was doing too

[slate nimbus]

i know theres meta templates and stuff but rn i just wanna learn how it works so im not just doing meta for the sake of winning ez, not mentioning that i couldnt probably sustain said templates with how much i struggle to keep up with production

also being dlc-less probably doesnt help

[lavish steppe]

You have no dlcs?

[slate nimbus]

indeed, dont have the money for them currently

[thin nebula]

I learned navy in under 100, i still cant do ground well though

[cosmic rain]

does this template make sense for baltic union estonia? I'm completely isolated from trade so I wanted a cheap tank which would only cost steel since that's all I have available to me.

I switched wheeled suspension for bogie

[austere roost]

no

just make light spgs unless you want light tank recon

[light knoll]

this is worse than infantry

just use infantry

[cosmic rain]

definitely not my experience. I'm getting higher stats for less manpower. org is lower but soft attack is much higher

[light knoll]

first of all, do you have proper gun techs? second, what is your division hp

can you send your tank template?

like the division templates for both infantry and tanks

[neat widget]

is this road to 56

[dusky slate]

anyone know why i dont have medium guns?

or did they get removed

[light knoll]

whats medium guns

oh

that

[dusky slate]

i was using this guide to help learn the game and realised it i dont have medium shells/batteries

[austere roost]

Mods maybe?

[cosmic rain]

HP is worse yeah but otherwise the stats seem better to me. 1936 small arms.

[cosmic rain]

yes

[cosmic rain]

I'm producing these tanks in small quantities to use against soviet armour. SPGs kind of feel like they would defeat the purpose of that right?

the vast majority of my army is inf

[austere roost]

Unless you use expert ai mods, ai doesn't produce meaningful tanks

[cosmic rain]

they have some

[austere roost]

They barely do

And a support aa is enough to pierce vanilla ai tanks

[cosmic rain]

pierce yes

but what about hardness

[austere roost]

How many do they have?

Ai sov produces at most 10% tank divisions

[light knoll]

ok so
your tank divisions will actually cost you more manpower

both look like you don't have proper gun techs but

[cosmic rain]

6 tank divisions on my front so not a ton