ask-for-help-here

[sick ginkgo]

Some with snorkels, all with best possible engine (3rd) and max amount of torpedos (some with 2nd level, some with 3rd)

And yet they all drowned

Most of them, except for a few, were trained to sergeant

But drowned in the first week of war, I set them to hunt convoys

[glacial steeple]

subs dont help with naval invading

[sick ginkgo]

I had the started german ships and set them on strike force

i hoped to drown british fleet

but it turned out that they drowned mine in 1 week

[gleaming grove]

i found the issue btw. The convoys were going through the strait of hormuz/mediterran sea once i captured india instead of using the pacific ocean which i 100% controlled.
But until i realised and corrected it by blocking the passages for convoys the damage was already too much in an already really hard WW3 against the entire world.
Deleted all saves and taking a hoi4 break now. These last 2hours really broke me
1958 and i lose to convoys taking the wrong pass... after almost finishing off india, australia and indonesia encircling 200divions...
Gonna start a fresh new save in a few days

[woven lotus]

good that u learn from ur mistakes

[gleaming grove]

i guess

man i was literally laying in bed the last days for hours and i couldnt sleep because i kept thinking about what i had to do next had to clean reset

[surreal quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452331766697296065/1503736220771942501/caption.gif

[iron veldt]

<@&846892247651057716> @frigid flare is trying to message a moderator

[sand ember]

Lmao

[blissful robin]

only 1 division away from a breakthrough

[unreal roost]

That is the most accurate thing I've seen all day

[pearl tapir]

Without bba can you kick anyone out of a faction that you joined because your the "biggest" country?

[austere roost]

That's ncns

[pearl tapir]

i mixed up both, but i dont have ncns either

[austere roost]

You have to be leader of faction to kick

And you can still kick if rules allow

Like ussr can kick Tuva and Mongolia since comintern doesn't have kick rules

[half kite]

how do i train a paratrooper division

it say i don't have enough special forces caps

[keen hemlock]

you prolly alr have special forces trained

you need to free up cap space or get more thru doctrine or recruiting troops

[half kite]

i have 6,42 mil man power

[austere roost]

That's likely why you don't have special force cap

[half kite]

isn't that enough recruits

?

[austere roost]

You need to have real divisions to provide a base so you can have special force cap

[half kite]

can't even train them

[keen hemlock]

yeah you have 70/70 special forces cap

right above where it says "show decomissoned templates" is the number

[half kite]

where do i see them

o my bad

ok so is that bad

im soo confused

😵‍💫

[keen hemlock]

well your divison recruitment is a mess

add more lines instead of more big boxes

and delete all the templates you arent using

[vital plinth]

Am I loosing 200 k people in a month because Germany is free bombing with planes ?

I can’t produce enough figthers in time compared to Germany

[crimson sentinel]

Losing my mind rn

[austere roost]

What are your fighters like

[crimson sentinel]

Can't figure out why my recon light cruisers aren't entering a specific fleet with a specific amount of them required to be there also there plenty of them to fit that single slot

[vital plinth]

Bad, most are start fighter the new ones 20-30 attack and 10 air defense haven’t unlocked others yet , I still got the debuffs of production but I’m doing small encirclements

I think I forgot to put some fighters on interception they have 1400 figthers I have 700

[austere roost]

20-30 atk won't make it against germany

[wild kiln]

How do y’all pull off well defended, 1-tile naval invasions (I.e. Iwo Jima)?

I’ve got 8 juiced-up marine divisions (36w) but think that would be too many?..

[keen hemlock]

Cas and naval bombardment

But any marines with good support companies should take down anything that isn’t a death stack

[opaque token]

Never attack Egypt

[ember wolf]

Dude im having the worst diarrhea of my whole life egypt is the least of my worries

[opaque token]

Still never attack Egypt...

https://giphy.com/gifs/im-crine-shipostin67-eminem-crying-ZfUek4ZkGbh9x36wnH

[last arch]

amtracs are great, it’s also worth putting like a single tank brigade in your marines to armor meme

if you have amph tanks then you can do multiple

[austere roost]

Armor meme sucks

And amphibious tanks are second worst only to moderns

[scenic nacelle]

Rip bro

[last arch]

not literally an armor meme but just one tank will give you enough armor to kill AI garrisons and a lot of soft attack

[austere roost]

Please explain to me piercing mechanics before telling others to do armor meme

[opaque token]

Piercing is when you have chance to pen tank

[austere roost]

Uh no? That's not how the game works

Go check wiki

The set between people advocating for armor meme and understanding combat is an empty set

[scenic nacelle]

Piercing is how much air defense can be used on convoys

[austere roost]

Piercing is how much discount you can get on dlcs you dummy

[scenic nacelle]

Nah ur wrong! 👿

[vital plinth]

Should I wait with attacking Germany France has very bad man power pool I can barely push now I don’t know how I lost 470 k or that much

[keen hemlock]

Yes

Untill you get rid of your debuffs

[blissful nova]

yes wait

pushing germany as france is hard unless they attack you

first

if they dont, start being slow and decisive

and also airforce

every time u take a major city germany loses a ton of factories

[elfin perch]

Всем привет это я Алексей Навальный и я создал себе дискорд

[fleet rivet]

English only

[vital plinth]

Is there any way to get more counties into my faction don’t have any focus that lets them in I’m non aligned

[vocal jewel]

Hello, I'm playing as Japan and have to wage war against the Russians, but they have powerful tanks. As Japan, I've started researching tanks, but they probably won't do me much good. Are there any templates for Japan either for infantry or tanks that I can use to counter them?

[blissful nova]

its very hard to get countries in ur faction if ur non aligned

but its possible

but if ur in like historical

no

not in europe

[blissful nova]

are you in mp or sp

[vocal jewel]

What is that..

[blissful nova]

ok

[vocal jewel]

Kinda New

[blissful nova]

the soviets or any ai controlled country for that matter dont mass produce tanks

tanks are not a problem in single player

just make soft attack

[vocal jewel]

Its against my friend

[blissful nova]

if there is a ai tank divson, just encircle and destroy it

[blissful nova]

then add anti tank to ur divs

[vocal jewel]

Hes kinda good

[blissful nova]

and have a lot of units

[blissful nova]

for tanks there isnt really tank battles but make tank destroyers or just mediums with a little hard attack

[vocal jewel]

So how should i make the template a New one or the Main one ?

Im 100% cookt

[blissful nova]

japan soviet non agression pact:

[vocal jewel]

My border goes from Xinjiang to vladivostok me and my friend Germany wanna atack him bevor he get stronger

[blissful nova]

take over asia firstr

once u have asia attack him

u wont be defeating him with just china im assuming

[vocal jewel]

My last hope is that my friend takes Aserbaidschan cuz of the oil

[vocal jewel]

Yeah so i have a plan but my problem is the tanks

[blissful nova]

just get anti tank

[vocal jewel]

Is that a extra Divisions to produce?

[blissful nova]

its a support company

[vocal jewel]

Im watching viedeos

[blissful nova]

under artillery

[vital plinth]

Oh ok what about non historical?

[vocal jewel]

Ahhh

[blissful nova]

depends on what countries are what

but generally its hard to invite people to non aligned factions

im assuming your napolean?

[vocal jewel]

Thanks bro maybe i destroy him

[austere roost]

in mp you're supposed to make heavy tds

[vocal jewel]

What is mp

Main Player

?

[austere roost]

Multiplayer

[obtuse anchor]

Does anyone have useful tutorials (youtube preferred) on hoi4 mechanics (division designer, and others)

[full dock]

Or a google sheet?

Of good templates

[crimson hinge]

I have 32 hours in the game and I haven't won a single battle besides the default italian ethiopian war. How do I win? I'v watched like 10 tutorials and it just seems I'm always either outnumbered, outgunned or just bad in general.

Even if I get the upper hand in africa the Mediterranean sea is just automatically controlled by the allies and I'm cooked

[obtuse anchor]

That would be nice (i need tutorials to improve my skill)

[obtuse anchor]

Yeah at this early stage of becoming a hoi4 player, dont touch the navy and just make subs. Also, are you using default divs or do you make your own (if yes, show ss of templates)

[junior mantle]

i found a pretty website where you can look at templates and shit https://hoidesigner.com/catalog

[obtuse anchor]

Thank you

[junior mantle]

it doesn't give much info bout them tho so i just kinda use it as a refreance and then build off it

also this vid is pretty good toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_dXGnCGHFs&t=1442s

[obtuse anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14770887436103544323

[crimson hinge]

I try to use templates off of youtube videos but sometimes I don't have the tech or factories to sustain them. I think another issue tbh is like which parts of the focus tree I should like focus on and which ones I should leave for last.

[obtuse anchor]

Okay im gonna ask 2 questions

[crimson hinge]

Also how can I use paratroopers? I unlock them in the research tab but it says my SF cap doesn't allow for special forces or smth

[obtuse anchor]

When did you start a war, and did yiu delete the irregulars

[obtuse anchor]

Get more divisions to raise thw sf cap

[junior mantle]

I usally convert if it can

[obtuse anchor]

Or at least moved the irregulars to africa

[crimson hinge]

Wdym? Have more normal divisions?

[obtuse anchor]

@crimson hinge ?

[crimson hinge]

Whats like the ratio?

[crimson hinge]

I use the guys I have trained

idk abt irregulars or not

[graceful oyster]

Can someone create for me a good Medium tank division template (please only mediul tanks without motorized vehicles) for the USA and a good Medium tank template

[obtuse anchor]

1 : 20

[obtuse anchor]

Do they have the weird signs on them? Like Camels, hats, swords

[junior mantle]

ye i usally convert

[obtuse anchor]

Okayyyy can you show a picture of the templates

[crimson hinge]

Last time I played italy I kinda gave up cuz even though I managed to reach Cairo and like surround the suez canal port the british just pushed me back and cut off like 2 armies worth of troops and then they were legit unstoppable cuz of the Mediterranean control

[crimson hinge]

I'm not really playing any nation rn I kinda just lost and quit and came here to ask some questions

I appreciate all the help though

[obtuse anchor]

Was it all inf? Or was it all-something? Or did you try to mix

[crimson hinge]

I never really used tanks

only did motorized and infantry

but mostly infantry

[obtuse anchor]

Tanks wont help italy unless you know how to properly make them

[obtuse anchor]

Did you add an artillery batallion (not support)

[junior mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_dXGnCGHFs&t=1442s try looking at some in here

[crimson hinge]

for infantry I only did the like artillery and AA support

[obtuse anchor]

Okay so just the support companies

Thats your problem

You have to add things to the infantry, like artillery and tanks to give it hardness and more soft attack

[glacial steeple]

what

[obtuse anchor]

I am not explaining the division designer to a person with 30 hours ingame

The division designer requires its own 10 hour tutorial

[fleet rivet]

i dont trust this person lol

[fleet rivet]

more like 5

[glacial steeple]

thats just not how they work tho

like hardness is averaged, low hardness means nothing

[fleet rivet]

im better at making ship designs

[glacial steeple]

theres offensive units (large) defensive units (small inf)

keep them seperate

[obtuse anchor]

I know, but how do you explain something so complex to a new player

[glacial steeple]

dont use all to attack

[glacial steeple]

just, tell them

bad teaching will not bring anyone anywhere

[fleet rivet]

some of us arent good at teaching

some of us are better in certain areas to teach

like me for example. im better at ship designs

[glacial steeple]

its ask for help, thats what the channel is for

you are not obligated to chat here :P

[obtuse anchor]

Btw, off-topic why isnt there a suggestions and/or q&a channel

[fleet rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-i-can-help-im-trying-to-help-you-ill-help-you-let-me-help-gif-22528794

[glacial steeple]

forums only

[glacial steeple]

ill be active here when i play a lot of hoi4 again, and am capable of giving sufficient help and advice, i too, choose to spend almost no time here due to not being able to provide adequate resources.

[fleet rivet]

speaking of helping people. i totally forgot i was supposed to look at ncns dlc and help this one person

welp

[scenic nacelle]

[harsh barn]

Is it against the rules to have "The Fire Rises" discord tag?

[nocturne bane]

What's a good wall template that's not 10 infantry and one artillery

[scenic nacelle]

No

[harsh barn]

thank you

[ornate comet]

hey guys, im playing as france during the nationalist spain uprising and want to invade nationalist spain, but for some reason i don't seem to be getting the decision to do so, ive sent an attache and improved relations but for some reason i haven't had the invite

[scenic nacelle]

do the focus

its a path of decisions

[ornate comet]

i have, ive done intervention in spain

[scenic nacelle]

hm

weapons selling?

[ornate comet]

no, the only decision i did was start covert intervention

[scenic nacelle]

try a more direct version of that ig

[ornate comet]

normally it says like "assist the spanish civil war"

[red mesa]

8 or 9 inf, supp arty, supp aa

engis if you can afford them

[upbeat arrow]

whys do i have differnt kinds of the same kind of plane? i havent changed anything besides upgrading the mio.

[red mesa]

you answered your own question

MIO upgrades create variants

[austere roost]

10/1 is not a good template

[neat widget]

yeah, 10/1 is not a good template

[iron veldt]

ranger template?

[errant chasm]

What is a wall template? Like a coastal mech wall?

[subtle socket]

32 width brick 2 line aa

if ur not doing sitter tanks

[subtle socket]

yeah different versions u need to refit to the new mio

[small flare]

Aye so I have a question about the turkey Civil war.

So, everything normally goes really good, but eventually I got to the Bosphorus Strait and just hit a wall, and unfortunately I didnt have enough naval dominance to support the invasion.

(BTW how the hell do you assign ships to do certain things, I kept trying to hit "support naval invasion" and they'd just run the other way immediately)

I ended up getting stalled for like a full year before my friend playing Germany capitulated them.

(22 units couldn't get past the strait against 2 or 3 units)

[red mesa]

ships were probably blocked by the dardanelles strait. 22 v 3 means you were probably overstacking and giving yourself supply penalties

[small flare]

So I i did make sure I had supply, I think only 1 unit had the yellow supply marker, unless im missing a mechanic (very likely)

[red mesa]

well even if they did, only like 2-5 of those units will have actually been fighting, depending on the template. Crossing a strait incurs a heavy combat penalty unless you have the proper equipment/support companies

[small flare]

Please elaborate further, cause I still have close to no clue how exactly this works

[red mesa]

combat width exists. during a battle only a certain number of units can fit at once. So you had 22 v 3, but only a fraction of those units were in the fight

[obtuse anchor]

Combat Width, a province cant support more than a limited amount of troops

[small flare]

So, what exactly is combat width.

Also, I should probably research marines for a new template?

[red mesa]

every battle is the units from one province trying to fit through a "door". Combat width is the size of the door and varies according to terrain and the number of directions the attack comes from

when you make a division, it has a width

[obtuse anchor]

Think of it as a variable that depicts how many men your division has

Logically, you cant stuff 500k men into a 50x50 meter cube

[small flare]

So, the reason the bophorus is so hard to take is because the strait is so narrow so you can only attack from 1 direction.

Not including the strait penalty

[red mesa]

that and you're fighting the turkish civil war so your units are probably trash

[subtle socket]

Avg spain grind lol

was too lazy grind second adap

[small flare]

So, would theoretically making a bunch of Smaller Width divisions increase my chances in this one very specific situation

[small flare]

Yah 😭

I lowkey, delete all of them at the start, then update my templates as time goes on and rebuild them just in time.

• selling some equipment for construction stuff

[red mesa]

No. It might sound a bit weird, but bigger divisions are usually better at attacking due to the way divisions deal damage. A single large division will have higher individual attack stats, so 3 divs with high attack will target a defending division with lower stats and break their organisation quicker

[lament quail]

how to win the italian civil war while still going for ethiopia

im gonna try to play communist italy on ironman

for the gramsci achievement

[small flare]

Sounds like this could also be a turkey organization issue

Or at least its not helping

[red mesa]

the army debuffs suck and turkey has no equipment so it can be tough

[small flare]

One of the few things turkey feels good at is research speed.

Especially if you can get the 10% from refuge scientists

And even that is an if

[visual yacht]

Do you bother getting each trait to 99% before finishing them or just send it non stop?

[slate nimbus]

whats the benefit of Annexing territory vs Puppeting it?

and whats precisely a core

[red mesa]

Cores are rightfully yours, you don't garrison, you get the full industry and resources

annexing non-cores will give you a fraction of the industry and resources depending on compliance

puppeting gives you a subject that has cores and they give you a fraction of their industry depending on autonomy

democracies and communist countries have the best occupation laws, so benefit from annexing more easily

[slate nimbus]

so you want to avoid annexing if you know you wont be able to deal with the compliance in that territory?

[red mesa]

often, yes. Certain countries/paths will be exceptions to this, like Bulgaria can get insane levels of compliance even as non-aligned

[left mica]

Imagine your house as your core territory and someone else’s house as non-core

[slate nimbus]

ooh i see i see, so it would perhaps be better to puppet those territories and just build a bunch of stuff there

[left mica]

if you live in their house they’re gonna be pissed

[slate nimbus]

in case i know compliance will be low

[left mica]

hence resistance

[slate nimbus]

ok yeah makes sense

mm if thats the case how do you gain cores in the territories you annex

[red mesa]

most of the time, you don't. Cores are usually only given out with formable nations decisions and apply only to specific territories

[left mica]

I use mods that let you do that

mine are core with compliance and toolpack without the tooltip

[slate nimbus]

oh thats a shame... time to garrison then ig

[slate nimbus]

in the case of that mod, you also do it thru decision?

[left mica]

Nah there’s a button in the state tab you can click

There’s an example on the mod’s page

[slate nimbus]

ah i see, yeah, i assumed it would require PP to do that

well, better than garrisoning it certainly is

i appreciate the explanations tho, i didnt quite grasp the concept til now

[silk comet]

2 questions, Does Air defence/agility matter for carrier naval bombers I assume not since the wiki seems to imply its just a percentage for a ship to shoot a plane. 2) do carrier fighters once in the air follow the same rules as normal fighters where things like Air Defense DO APPLY? Couldn't quite find the answer on the wiki or online sorry

[subtle socket]

u have to

each trait makes new traits 2x harder

[subtle socket]

i think air defense matters how fast they got shut down

not rly the dmg they do

[visual yacht]

yeah i figured, just was praying there was a recent change or some way to not have to micro that ;_;

how do you get around the AI commanding the battle? just ignore it and grind anyway?

[austere roost]

agility does against enemy aa but otherwise it only affects combat against carrier fighters

[silk comet]

Perfect 👌

[subtle socket]

ai commanding the battle?

[austere roost]

do you mean battleplan?

[visual yacht]

yeah dont you earn less xp if you join an existing battle

isnt that tied to whether its your commander/general leading that battle

[austere roost]

is this about grinding generals?

[visual yacht]

yes

iirc theres no trick around it, just wondering how much micro people are doing to get around it

[austere roost]

It's more about traits not about xp

And in Spain you can't dictate what AI does so you don't have a choice most of the time

Usually getting a combined arms + panzer + cav commander is good enough and that only requires microing tank/mob ratio when one trait hits 99%

[visual yacht]

is trait xp (or points?) not related to leader xp?

[austere roost]

No

Trait XP gets harder to get with every trait you have

That's a reason why zhukov, mannstein, etc are bad generals

[visual yacht]

🫨 i was under the assumption that joining an existing battle gives you less trait xp

[austere roost]

Another reason is their level is too high so their stats will be worse then grinding low level generals with bold attack or planning/logistics spirits

[visual yacht]

like leader xp who gives

[austere roost]

Also check commander personalities in wiki some personalities give higher chance to get atk in level up and some don't

Which is why you don't want infantry personality because it makes it harder to get extra atk during level up

[chrome breach]

what countries can i justify against to prevent the uk from guaranteeing poland's independence

[austere roost]

south american

but it will be hard

cuz uk is scripted to prioritize guaranteeing poland

and what's the point of it since your goal is to start ww2

[thorny tiger]

Can anyone send me a good tank designer template for mid-endgame

[thorny tiger]

And also an army designer template with it ( I saw so many but not sure what’s the best one and also most of them prob outdated or smt )

[chrome breach]

the uk just has unlimited pp

it has to

i made it guarantee 4 different countries before poland

and it still somehow had enough to eventually skip over my justification on luxemborg and go straight to poland

this is so stupid

[austere roost]

Allies get cheaper guarantees

Iirc it costs 54 pp at that point with 4 guarantees

[neat widget]

Here is the tank design (ideally you would use infantry mio but sometimes you don't have that)

[neat widget]

actually go for the speed in infantry mio my bad

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U6IPCxBIInrEje6dVnbhl6DZ6DeLPeYHboa0CLjmL58/edit?usp=sharing you know, i'm just going to share my spreadsheet

[chrome breach]

I'm actually going to do something so bad

I can't type it out without looking crazy but this is so annoying

[glacial steeple]

what do you think about the fast tank noob trap of +5% prod cost click for 5% cap

XD

[neat widget]

"middle branch is a trap that may decrease production"

the tank mios are funny because the infantry mio 5% cost increase from the 10% speed upgrade is applied on production, whereas the fast tank one is applied on design

so if you have say a standardized mio then you can get away with the first one but you just hit yourself with the second one

[visual yacht]

is this a claude website

[glacial steeple]

why would you ever use fast tank as production only MIO

like it doesnt have production stats

tbf it also doesnt have design stats but its something

[neat widget]

if that's the only mio you have then you sort of have to

i haven't looked at every country to make sure that no country doesn't have only fast tank mio

[glacial steeple]

new zealand

heavy tank MIO too ig

china used to not have anything better (prc)

maybe manchukuo still

thats about it afaik

[neat widget]

that well there you go

[glacial steeple]

no dlc prc still is forced on it

i believe

ive had to use it too many times 💔

such a bad MIO

[lucid torrent]

Why Ussr isn't in my war with UK? You can declare war with a faction member without declare war with other members?

[neat widget]

why do you have less divisions than you start

[neat widget]

also yeah

you can

[minor ruin]

the ai is trigger happy with calling people in so it's probably a national spirit preventing them or something

[neat widget]

if turkey or any other participantdoesn't call in the soviet union then the soviet union would not be in the war

[glacial steeple]

liv

did you know turkiye has both inf+fast tank MIO

but also range air

and raider fleet i think too? tho i forgot for fleet

[neat widget]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

powerful nation

[neat widget]

true

it just grows slowly, or so i've heard

[lucid torrent]

Yes, it is, it just take forever to get your first wargoal

[thorny tiger]

Thanks a lot

[lucid torrent]

Because this

[neat widget]

relying on your allies to defend your land borders for you is an exercise in futility tbh

also with 23 factories you should be able to get a larger army

[lucid torrent]

I forget to train meat shield.

[neat widget]

23 high quality divs?

[glacial steeple]

relying on ai to do anything is a grave mistake

[sweet summit]

explain it

[scenic nacelle]

Read it

[sweet summit]

how is it -2

TELL ME

[scenic nacelle]

Profit?

[sweet summit]

[sweet summit]

broski, i have -2 taxable civs

[scenic nacelle]

I haven’t played this path since it came out

[sweet summit]

what does that even mean

do i get paid

when i file my taxes

[dusty sandal]

You don't have enough to have to pay anything

[scenic nacelle]

Maybe it’s like that tax refund

Or listen to that dude

[sweet summit]

thankfully i fixed it by just .. making more factories in bombay

[visual dove]

do i need to slap more or we gon' stay

[nova plaza]

how do i get rid of the 250, i need good relations for the imperial federation

improving will only get me a 100

[jagged cargo]

you don't

bro

you CLAIMED their territory

[nova plaza]

what do i even do

like

what

[jagged cargo]

try looking in the focus tree idk

[dusty sandal]

You can't

[half glade]

would anybody be willing to hop in a vc with me and walk me through a big conquest as a minor

i have about 250 hours

but im not very good when it comes to making armys and fighting bigger people than me

[dusty sandal]

Nothing more. Engineers are also overkill since they represent 20% of the whole div's cost

[uncut narwhal]

if you use good tanks

and have meta air

or special forces with air

your usually fine

[half glade]

how do i achieve this as a nation like iraq though

its so difficult

[uncut narwhal]

fighting as iraq the british is kinda hard

you kinda are dependant that a stronger nation helps you

or the allies are just weak

[half glade]

it was just an example

im playing hungary rn

im trying to do mountaineers

but i cannot get enough sf cap

[uncut narwhal]

if your going for austria hungary you can do tanks

[uncut narwhal]

exploit

[half glade]

what?

[half glade]

im doing communist

[uncut narwhal]

then tanks might also work

[half glade]

eh it doesnt look hopeful

[uncut narwhal]

@half glade

[uncut narwhal]

yea your not too strong rn

you shouldve gotten more prolly

id do

going down on production for anything but tanks

then getting like 2-4 good tank divs out

waiting for the soviets to join

in the mean time

getting some more cores

[half glade]

lmao what the hell is that

[half glade]

i couldnt take anybody on really

[uncut narwhal]

what is what

[half glade]

that exploit lol

[uncut narwhal]

you basically train

a lot of 2w units

and then convert to bigger units

so sf cap rises drastically

to get out a lot of sf

and then delete the useless bigger divs

[half glade]

its funny

[lucid torrent]

Where is encircle debuff?

[uncut narwhal]

what commie path did you do?

the right one?

[half glade]

yeah

[uncut narwhal]

cant your rush down czechia then?

[half glade]

mil access with bulgaria?

[half glade]

i dont know how strong they are

[uncut narwhal]

check their div count?

and industry

[lucid torrent]

no

[uncut narwhal]

like you can literally check

[half glade]

dont i need a intelligence agency

[uncut narwhal]

for better intel yes

you still have some intel

[half glade]

ohh okay

what if they have less but they might be better

[uncut narwhal]

especially on industry

[uncut narwhal]

as a player you should always have the best

[half glade]

okay

these are my mountaineers btw

[uncut narwhal]

too big

36w

also

put in engineers

if you have like 6 of them

[left mica]

Yeah its too big

[uncut narwhal]

you should be fine

[left mica]

Do 32.2

[uncut narwhal]

get flame tanks too

[uncut narwhal]

why not 36w?

[half glade]

oh okay

[left mica]

?

[uncut narwhal]

why do 32.2 if you can do 36w

[left mica]

Because if you’re gonna be using it in mountains then make it 32

otherwise 36 is fine

[uncut narwhal]

hes hungary, he prolly wont fight only in mountains

[left mica]

plus hes hunary

hungary

idk he might

[uncut narwhal]

you can avoid most of them

[left mica]

hm

[half glade]

so this has happened

[heavy quail]

Chat how to conquer chinese united front as japan quickly

[lyric quarry]

get 3 collabs

on china

naval invade them abunch

keep encircling

if they're close to capping, just snake VPs

[uncut narwhal]

i tried hungary real quick and its def possible

[heavy quail]

No like i mean, im barely taking any of their tiles by land

[lyric quarry]

show

ss

[jade jewel]

Is there any non scripted way to get a countries military access

[left mica]

allowdiplo

[uncut narwhal]

just ask them?

[drowsy hazel]

Increase rep or sum

[jade jewel]

I mean to get enough reputation

You can only get 10 points by increasing relations

[cold bloom]

I think faction power projection can give insane, and I do mean insane bonuses

[jade jewel]

What is that?

[cold bloom]

Idk the exact specifics either, could even be NCNS-DLC specific

but it modifies ai acceptance

[jade jewel]

I mean I am in the axis

[fierce patio]

U mean yesman

[jade jewel]

But I only get +10 points for strategic reasons

[left mica]

Yeah yesman

i forgor

[wild kiln]

How feasible is marching through Russia to capture Moscow and then Berlin (as USA, moving from japans old territory)?

Mid 1942 if that matters.

[left mica]

not hard if you know what you’re doing

just push along the siberian railroad with your tanks and air cover

[wild kiln]

No kidding?!

[left mica]

Well why would i lie?

[wild kiln]

lol sorry

Just excited

[left mica]

oh

mb

Just dont push with defensive troops and ur good

Otherwise if you arent careful you can lose millions of manpower in siberia

[hazy quiver]

i dont get it how naval repair work i put 30 naval dockyard and its just using only 1

[left mica]

I mean how many dry docks can you use to repair a ship irl?

[hazy quiver]

i mean in game why real life?

[left mica]

You cant cut a ship into 5 pieces then have 5 drydocks repair it can you?

[hazy quiver]

in hoi4

[left mica]

yeah exactly

[grand gust]

is there a setting that you can stop the music?

need help

[left mica]

Hoi4 is based on reality

[keen hemlock]

Max level of naval base you are repairing at limits the amount of dockyards

[left mica]

Go to settings to disable music

[grand gust]

k emme try

[hazy quiver]

ohhhh i need naval base not dockyard okey okey

[grand gust]

thanks

[left mica]

I think he means why he cant assign more dockyards to each ship

[keen hemlock]

Oh

[left mica]

yeah

But you can only repair one ship per naval base level per dockyard

you have to build more naval bases to have more ships repair at the same time, up to 10

[wild kiln]

Has anyone really used the amphibious platform thing or the repair ship to any effect?

Not sure the repair ship is doing much of anything. Supply ship does seem to visibly extend range by a biiiiiiiit.

[scenic nacelle]

Floating harbor?

[wild kiln]

Crap. Forgot to ask @left mica - any recommendations for other fun places / ways to get there if my goal is to try and literally get between Russians / Germans and fight them both?

[wild kiln]

Yes!!!

[left mica]

what does that mean?

[keen hemlock]

It’s a supply hub for a naval invasion

It’s basically gives your a port for 30 days or something

[left mica]

yeah floating harbours are temporary naval bases basically

the thing the allies used at normandy

[wild kiln]

Sorry. I’m just looking for ways to fight Germany and USSR without doing normal d day.

[left mica]

Its okay… i’m not sure but maybe italy?

[keen hemlock]

You’d have to play as someone alr on the continent

[wild kiln]

Ah, TY both.

[keen hemlock]

If you don’t wanna naval invade

[wild kiln]

Very down for naval invasions.

Just looking for wacky ways to actually approach. Might try one from the Black Sea.

[keen hemlock]

Oh

Like anywhere that isn’t Normandy?

Just land in southern France or Germany itself

[half glade]

oh wow

[uncut narwhal]

i just allied with the soviets and now have 6 tank divs and 4 mountaineers

[half glade]

nice nice

you do seem to be

much better than me though

so

[uncut narwhal]

i just expanded early

declared on czechia

kinda waited for germany to invade them

then went down to yugo

after that went to romania

and formed pannonia

[half glade]

i did this

[uncut narwhal]

but i got all of czechia

and then i also got yugo

and romania

[keen hemlock]

How did u have enough warscore

[uncut narwhal]

germany only captured empty czechia

i farmed war score

in southern slovakia

by grinding my units on them

was like -8k guns

didnt matter tho

[keen hemlock]

Ah

Lowk I need to do a run

Like that

Need to get czechoslovakaustrohungarian union

[uncut narwhal]

i had to spam hella refineries tho

[keen hemlock]

How much rubber tech do you have

[uncut narwhal]

only the first, 5 days away from 2nd

[keen hemlock]

Ah

[uncut narwhal]

i did cheat like 50pp for my conscription law once

just so you know

[balmy panther]

My fleets are constantly out of supply, they have the red crate on them even though they are in a level 10 port in my homeland/core territory, what am i doing wrong?

[uncut narwhal]

whats their homebase and how many ships?

[left mica]

That happens

I also have that and i have no idea why

Probably because your fleets saturated all available supply from nearby naval bases

Tooltip doesnt help either

[half glade]

HOW

the germans steamroll them for me

[uncut narwhal]

yea for me too but germany didnt get much warscore

[half glade]

oh okay

did they ask for sudentland?

[uncut narwhal]

czechia gave it to them

and germany declared war

czechia prolly denied annexation

[sacred patrol]

can someone help with a medium tank division template (no tank template dlc)

[uncut narwhal]

just get nsb

its so good

[fathom thistle]

combine both normal mediums and spg to balance out soft attack and breakthrough as you can see in template

[sacred patrol]

whats that first unit?

[fathom thistle]

spg

self propelled artillery

[sacred patrol]

is it dlc requiered?

[fathom thistle]

should be next to tank research

[fathom thistle]

no

[sacred patrol]

found it

thanks

[fathom thistle]

np

[sacred patrol]

playing italy so this ones gonna be good run

[half glade]

oh you waited a bit longer then

[uncut narwhal]

nah that was like 1 year into the war

[half glade]

what?

did they not take them quick?

and how did they not get alot of warscore

[modern loom]

what should i do?

[uncut narwhal]

no germany demanded the sudetenland, then like 2 or 3 months after germany declared on them

but i

declared a lot earlier

on czechia

[modern loom]

<@&916727971820240976>

[glacial steeple]

equip your army

dont crop screenshots also

[short matrix]

any performance boosting mods for my very low end laptop?

[fathom thistle]

fps maps, it also doesnt disable achievements

[short matrix]

alr installed it

[fathom thistle]

there is guide in pins btw

[modern loom]

how do you mean it?

[short matrix]

in this channel?

k

thx

[potent pebble]

I'm playing a match as Brazil and was at war with Peru, but Argentina and Chile started attacking me and I don't know how to defend. I have a lot of my troops in Peru and I don't know if I should withdraw them.

[scenic nacelle]

Build gun

[cobalt shadow]

how they have fkin supply and me not? wtf

[austere roost]

it's hoidesigner.com

[austere roost]

the prod costs don't apply to tanks if it's only a design mio, take the speed one. Tank defense is near zero anyway

[austere roost]

you have supply

supply issue is two boxes

[cobalt shadow]

Talking about the enemies

[austere roost]

Yeah tiles have built in supply and scw divisions are too small to cost a lot of supply

They still have encirclement penalties however

[sacred patrol]

love the british

[unreal pulsar]

what does this mean?

[gusty hinge]

the state is not cored by any of those countries

[unreal pulsar]

ohh

[gusty hinge]

its cored by one of those countries tho

so u can't do the focus than

[unreal pulsar]

thanks it makes sense now

[unreal pulsar]

so I can never do it anymore right

[gusty hinge]

idk if their is anything to uncore (likely there isn't)

[unreal pulsar]

I figured it out Germany owns one of my puppet's cores

[left mica]

Do you or any of your puppets own any occupied states (ie you’re invading germany and you’re occupying their land)

Oh nvm

[dusty sandal]

you have supplies
they have local supplies because the div is so small it can live off the supply generated on that tile

[spring shore]

which is better for germany? PEG or 4YP?

[fathom thistle]

4YP all the way if you know what to do

[spring shore]

so PEG, since im ass

[fathom thistle]

getting peg done early is a safe option ye

[spring shore]

k, thx man

[lunar notch]

4YP if you can have a standing army around 1939-1940

[spring shore]

And that is considered? 1mil, 1.5mil?

[lunar notch]

rather than division numbers

like 96-120 divisions

you start with 30

but you are going to need 750-900k men to work on focuses so, yeah

[spring shore]

i mean i can make lots of good infantry, like 96+24 (i dont wanna do math) but MAYBE 2-3 breakthru

[lunar notch]

basic infantry division is good

having 1-2 panzer armies can be helpful as well

[spring shore]

i usually make 36 width, 12 inf+4 arty, i just struggle making panzer divisions

[lunar notch]

this seems a little overkill to me

9 inf with support companies should be more than enough

[spring shore]

and i STILL struggle in BELGIUM

[lunar notch]

maybe add one battalion of line arty too

[lunar notch]

because your division combat width is too big

[spring shore]

oh...

[lunar notch]

combat width determines how many divisions can attack at once

[spring shore]

i didnt know that was a thing 😭

[lunar notch]

for example, lets say a tile has width of 60

your divisions are 36 each

[spring shore]

so not even 2

[lunar notch]

36+36= 72, two divisions cant attack at once

[glacial steeple]

can fit in a battle

[glacial steeple]

36w is good but 12/4 inf is very bad

you probably also have little or terrible air

[dusty sandal]

you can exceed combat width up to 33% over the limit

[glacial steeple]

and are maybe out of supply, convoy raided

[lunar notch]

i didnt know that

[glacial steeple]

spending MIC in poor places

[spring shore]

i can make 2-3k fighters, cant get supremacy still

[glacial steeple]

thats not a lot

[dusty sandal]

you just take gradually higher penalities from it
the best is to fill it above around 18-20%

[spring shore]

damn...

[glacial steeple]

look at factories on air

[spring shore]

i put 20

[fathom thistle]

it doesnt have to do anything with army btw, your goal is just getting the required resources quickly enough to achieve autarky, Norway and Sweden for tungsten and chromium, france and romania for oil

[glacial steeple]

you want more on air than your enemies combined

you dont live in a vacuum

[lunar notch]

learn something every day

[glacial steeple]

also build refineries for rubber

[spring shore]

i know, i have to balance my factories tho, i cant just put 50 at once, or else all other lines will screw me over

[glacial steeple]

you can

you should focus your build, though

focus on what you actually want to make, dont try to just "make everything"

[pastel orbit]

is 9 inf + 1 artillery for some soft attack (so it can be bettwe when finishing encirclements and also good for very small pushs whn enemy division is unorganized or not supplied well) with support aa and artillery good

[inner mountain]

is there a reason to build medium tanks or medium spa's as germany when you are already making heavy tanks?

in mp

[inner sparrow]

no artillery is just better

[inner sparrow]

depends on how good the lobby is, but u never do medium spaa tho. U can do medium td for dday wall as they need it for inland. For spaa u would do spaa heavy armor meme.

[glacial steeple]

(clown reacting because his name is clown)

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/scuba-cat-scuba-cat-kitten-cute-gif-6808830743234487843

[glacial steeple]

is this real?

[inner sparrow]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

ive never seen a giraffe before sorry

[inner sparrow]

same

[austere roost]

They're heartless creatures anyway

[austere roost]

There's a video in pins that tells you why line artillery sucks

[unique tundra]

Hey, I'm trying to play TFR and i cannot create custom plane, ship and tank design, do you guys know what the issue could be?

[dusty sandal]

honestly you should ask that on their discord

[unique tundra]

I've already asked there and they told me that it is the games fault

plus TFR has already released a new patch so theoretically they would have already patched the bug

[wild kiln]

Struggling to sort out: what intel options / tools do I have WITHOUT La Resistance DLC?

Only see float plane for naval patrol. Anything for land?

[tacit thistle]

can someone help me

naval invade uk

i always land then get destroyed right after

[austere roost]

You need to send more troops to UK and push

Just the 10 divisions won't work

[stone summit]

Nuke them repeatedly

[tacit thistle]

i do tjat

every time

i send 48 more divs

and they just lose

theyre so useless

[austere roost]

Did they push inside?

[tacit thistle]

?

[austere roost]

72 divisions won't have supply if you only have one port

And it's easy to cut them down into encirclements

[tacit thistle]

bro i cant even push 1 tile

[austere roost]

They have to push into England, can they?

[tacit thistle]

and my tanks are good

[austere roost]

Send your templates

[tacit thistle]

they just have no equipment

when i land

[austere roost]

So they got raided?

[austere roost]

You have to protect them

Also what's your air

[tacit thistle]

this happens every time

[glacial steeple]

yeah

dont do that

[tacit thistle]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

land in multiple tiles bro

[tacit thistle]

i try not to but the other tiles get pushed back

[scenic nacelle]

U need a port

[glacial steeple]

take ports

[tacit thistle]

yeah thats the point bro

i do

then they push me instantly

[scenic nacelle]

Push them first

[glacial steeple]

equip the units

[tacit thistle]

into 1 tile

[glacial steeple]

take like

7 tiles

when invading

not 2

[tacit thistle]

bro i try

[glacial steeple]

not 3

try taking multiple ports

[tacit thistle]

they like

instantly

[glacial steeple]

theyre not even defending the sides rn

theyre just pinning you

attack them

pin them

[tacit thistle]

bro i try

[glacial steeple]

well, youre not rn

pin them

it just shows that you in fact do not do that

[tacit thistle]

im clearly losing bruh

what do u say i do

@glacial steeple

[glacial steeple]

you took land

now, dont get convoy raided

[tacit thistle]

yeah but im losing

they push me back instantly

[glacial steeple]

you need to have fighters and naval bombers over the channel

because you have no supply

[tacit thistle]

yeah theyre all on southern england

[glacial steeple]

on the channel

you need them over the channel

[tacit thistle]

ok

what now

theyre still pushing me back

[uncut narwhal]

do you have convoys?

rn you have no supply

you will get pushed

[tacit thistle]

yes i know

[uncut narwhal]

did you block the seazone?

or smth

put cas on naval strike

and bomb the channel

[tacit thistle]

yes im doing that

got pushed back again bro

[uncut narwhal]

send me your save file

[tacit thistle]

bro i restarted

back to the start

of the uk

invasion

[uncut narwhal]

send a ss then

[tacit thistle]

of what

[uncut narwhal]

the situation your in rn

[tacit thistle]

i told u i restarted

[uncut narwhal]

like full 1936?

[tacit thistle]

no

i said right before the uk invasion

[uncut narwhal]

ok then send a screenshot bro

like come on

[tacit thistle]

i havent even landed yet

chill

[uncut narwhal]

bro send one

still

holy

[tacit thistle]

ok

[uncut narwhal]

i alr see it

[uncut narwhal]

make 2 invasions covering these tiles

put all your air over the channel

how much air you got?

and is it good?

[tacit thistle]

i always put it over the channel

but its not in the screenshot

cuz the invasion isnt ready

[uncut narwhal]

you need fighters and cas and move them as close as possible

[uncut narwhal]

still put it over?

if your air is good

your gonna kill the raf

[tacit thistle]

i thought the point is to kill their navy for the timebeing

[uncut narwhal]

no you want them to pull out the subs from the channel

and they wont do that in like a day

[tacit thistle]

ok

[vital plinth]

Is there any mods you recommend that has a New France focus tree ?

[tacit thistle]

what now bro

[uncut narwhal]

all the air over the uk and use your tanks

focus them there

dont push across the river

[neat widget]

Your units are attritioning

You need to basically cripple the royal navy in the channel before doing sealion

[dusty sandal]

these ones ar ebecause they're retreating

[uncut narwhal]

you can land with crippling them tho

without

lwk

[uncut narwhal]

just call in italy

[dusty sandal]

but yeah, watch for the naval
attack with tanks, not inf
and use your air support

[uncut narwhal]

use all your air and put all the inf and then battleplan after weakening them with tanks

[dusty sandal]

only battleplan if you have thousand of CAS + a stockpile + full strenght units + total green air

[jade jewel]

Can I, as part of the axis, give fascist pressure to a country??

[neat widget]

Yeah you can land, but whether you can supply them that's a different question

[tacit thistle]

bro

[uncut narwhal]

500 cas will let the british submarines retreat

[neat widget]

depends on your cas desing

[tacit thistle]

i got london

[neat widget]

also pretty sure they naval raid with their surface navy too (although they will also be dispersed by cas)

[tacit thistle]

this is the point where they just push me back

yep

theyre pushing me back now

[uncut narwhal]

how?

[tacit thistle]

for the thousandth time

[dusty sandal]

send as many divs as your supply can handle
more. PLANES.

[uncut narwhal]

send me your save file

[neat widget]

ideally at this stage your planes should have the range to cover all of southern england from france

[errant chasm]

the problem is that the british ai reinforces fast and once the line stablizes, germany is on the backfoot due to supply issues

[errant chasm]

so when doing sealion you have to go fast before the UK can stabilize

[uncut narwhal]

the airport in wessex works

[neat widget]

seems like the supply situation has stabilized though

[neat widget]

yeah

you can move your planes if you think you can supply them

again, depends on your plane design

[tacit thistle]

"uk3" is the setup for the war and "after" is the latest screenshot i sent

@uncut narwhal

[uncut narwhal]

bradar

[tacit thistle]

how

[uncut narwhal]

ok what i did

all the inf into the invasion

all the air to the first army

used the tanks to micro a bit

thats it

then battleplan

your air is trash tho

[tacit thistle]

i tried and i lost

[neat widget]

is this without by blood alone?

[tacit thistle]

im gonna crash out

[tacit thistle]

no

[uncut narwhal]

your not even producing air

brooo

what is this

your not building air

[errant chasm]

i am loading the save too

[uncut narwhal]

and using bf109s

[errant chasm]

i can also co-op with zach later if he wants

[uncut narwhal]

your air is getting clapped

[uncut narwhal]

rush air with him then

[errant chasm]

my advice is station inf troops for sealion too to rush troops and planes to the uk

[tacit thistle]

yes

please

[errant chasm]

I will see what i can do. I would probably can do a quick session

[neat widget]

i see all the templates are base templates though

[glacial steeple]

purging...

[uncut narwhal]

also there were 8 unused tanks in berlin

[errant chasm]

oh hello casey

[neat widget]

casey you ok?

[uncut narwhal]

you can rescue the save tho

[glacial steeple]

im fine :3 being silly

[tacit thistle]

for me there arent

[uncut narwhal]

just use every division you have

[tacit thistle]

not the tanks

im trying bro

all my divs are in uk now

[uncut narwhal]

use your tanks and battleplan

and make sure supply is ok

and next time

dont ignore air

its too important

[glacial steeple]

i ignore air

:3

[uncut narwhal]

and dont forget your research

[glacial steeple]

well i dont think you should this version

[uncut narwhal]

go back to mc bro

[glacial steeple]

god forbid i take a break...

[uncut narwhal]

also dont lose your momentum in the uk

dont let the brits fight back

[tacit thistle]

veo

i dont get it

i cant win

all my inf is in

uk

im sitll losing

[uncut narwhal]

ok go to helping lounge 1 and imma stream it for you

[tacit thistle]

just more slow

[neat widget]

@tacit thistle you should probably give your troops in england some air cover

oh good

[tired moon]

how do I get manpower?

[tacit thistle]

broooo

what

[neat widget]

yugoslav moment

but the answer is probably to steal it from your puppets

i forget how to do it but i'll get back to you once i figure out how

you should probably be resaerching something tbh

[tacit thistle]

i tried to do exactly what u did

[neat widget]

but sounds like you got a handle on this situation

[tacit thistle]

except i cant push

[neat widget]

what i said?

[uncut narwhal]

@tacit thistle

ok

so you saw it?

why is everybody in here

muted

[tacit thistle]

finally

thank you

im strarting to push

[uncut narwhal]

yes and deploy the tanks in training and use all the air

[errant chasm]

I can stream what I attempted to do but it seems like zach managed to do it fine

[tired moon]

how do I get steel?

[uncut narwhal]

trade

[uncut narwhal]

just turn on your stream and talk gng

[errant chasm]

I was going to say conquer

[tired moon]

all my factories

[tacit thistle]

@uncut narwhal i have improved small airframe

i realised

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Your planes should probably look like this for sealion if you're only making basic fighters and bombers

[tacit thistle]

i won

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this way you have enough range, plus you should probably make improved frames earlier because those are a vast improvement

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wait

have i not won

i cant annex poland and free france and stuff

only uk

[austere roost]

planes should be updated to latest airframe, unlike tanks which should stick to 1938 chassis

[tacit thistle]

yo

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I think the game glitched, if that's the case just restart

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why am i still at war

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planes unlock more slots, tanks do not