ask-for-help-here

[left mica]

this

hover your mouse over the + sign and read the tooltip

iirc it doesnt raise ic

[wild kiln]

Anyone have video guide recommendations explicitly for “moving and using your navy”?

Not fighting. Not build guides. Literally just how to move ships. Make fleets. Organize task groups in your fleets. Do patrols in more than one sector. Etc. so many buttons, most don’t do what I think they do when I click.

[scenic nacelle]

Imma be honest just ignore reliability

[tropic tapir]

Whats IC?

[left mica]

production cost

[scenic nacelle]

As long as it’s above 40% u barely need to worry about attrition

[tropic tapir]

It doesn't

[left mica]

we just call it ic (industrial cost)

ok then max it

your mechs will eventually end up on a mountain or in a marsh anyhow

[tropic tapir]

Later imma fix my Division templates first

[left mica]

for my finland game i had 700 32w divisions fully equipped with mech

thats like

4 army groups

hence this

[scenic nacelle]

That’s also

Like

A lot of manpower

[left mica]

15 million

minus my two armies of tanks

which is another 70 divisions

[tropic tapir]

I have a strong Navy but Weak Airforce ngl

[left mica]

both are easy

you can get away with no navy but air force is your life and blood

without it ur washed

[tropic tapir]

Cooked, I built a Strong Navy to cap Japan early but didn't focus on my Airforce Im a little cooked

[keen hemlock]

How did you get that many

[left mica]

cheat mods

[tropic tapir]

Like this?

36 Width?

[left mica]

yup

honestly

[keen hemlock]

Lmao

[left mica]

with an airforce you can just battleplan with those mechs (and their appropriate support companies)

[scenic nacelle]

Ur core pop

Is like…

3.91 million?

[left mica]

as i said i was using cheat mods

[tropic tapir]

Whats the Support companies I need?

[scenic nacelle]

I didn’t read that far

[tropic tapir]

Do I have to lose the Signal companies

[left mica]

yyeah im bored of vanilla gameplay

support arty, armoured recon, logistics, field hospital, medium flame tank

there are designs for the recon and flame tank in here

check pinned

or whatever

[dark turret]

guys i need advice, does this focus miss something? Im making a cats mod where mainland europe are cats and they are invading everything but cats are scared of water so england and ireland are the only hope in europe

theres a mutual focus coming too btw

[keen hemlock]

Ngl I thought it was 6 million

Even plus all the nordics, greater Finland, and Estonia, I doubt you get to 15 mil

[dark turret]

do you know how to get more ranks?

like Naval expert

[worn shard]

What doctrine is better mass assult or rapid dominace

[dark turret]

depends on what country

[uncut narwhal]

grand assault

always

or if you can get desperate defense

[left mica]

grand assault

why would you ever do anything else

[uncut narwhal]

desperate defense was so much fun when there wasnt a requirement

[left mica]

lmao

[daring gorge]

is this ammount of marines enough to solo britain invasion

template

[left mica]

bro abused the special forces cap glitch

good for him

[kind lark]

Nope you're about halfway there

[dark turret]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gem-gem-alert--k01KQYRE89NB79NDHXNQ17EA9AS

[keen hemlock]

How did you get enough manpower to get that many marines using the glitch holy shi

[daring gorge]

had to like delete half mz armz

i hv only 50reg divs now

but marines are better anyways

[scenic nacelle]

That’s Sweden

Norway/ Denmark are like 3m each

So 12m for those 3

4m ish from greater Finland

And 1 mil per Baltic

So 19m

[left mica]

so you're a 19 year old male

got it

[inner sparrow]

sfp is also very strong but not needed in sp

[left mica]

wdym not needed

also i meant grand assault not gbp

[inner sparrow]

gbp is just better in most cases for sp

[inner sparrow]

fair enough

[left mica]

is grand assault the only "best" option though, and desperate defense being useful in niche situations

and everything else being mid

[glacial steeple]

dont listen to clown hes evil

[left mica]

ok

[inner sparrow]

there are other options for specific „builds“ but in sp ur just gonna do battleplan with air

so grand assault is just the best by far

[inner sparrow]

yes

[left mica]

okay bet

[left mica]

what are other options may i ask

[inner sparrow]

me

[west relic]

anyone know fun country to play

[inner sparrow]

desperate for any inf build is pretty good bc of mp, mission type tactics is great for org

[left mica]

finland

[inner sparrow]

guerilla is good on soviets and usa and if u don’t have the army xp to change it its honestly fine to keep

[west relic]

do youy know one that get al lot of cores

[left mica]

democratic germany into european union

[glacial steeple]

afghanistan

[left mica]

or italy into roman empire with eu cores

[west relic]

graveyards of empires is only dlc i dont have

[left mica]

or oswald mosley empire with eu cores

[glacial steeple]

brasil

[left mica]

i should do another mosley run

[inner sparrow]

guerilla is a doctrine tho that u want in the early game and then change before war to something better but in vanilla u usually struggle to get mastery in time without abusing freaky converts

[west relic]

so italy the best

[left mica]

i see

[west relic]

and wchich path is for romean empire

[brazen panther]

how do i play carlist spain? i've tried focusing on the north or spreading out but none worked out for me

[scenic nacelle]

Close enough

[vital plinth]

Does this boost the actual project of a nuclear weapon or what exactly does it mean ?

[jade jewel]

Why do my divisions always move away from the front line every time I put them there

[keen hemlock]

ah

[brazen panther]

nuclear breakthrough point

[keen hemlock]

its a nucelar breakthru point

[brazen panther]

anyone some help?

[jade jewel]

What happens if I was at war with austria and then germany does the anschluss?

[brazen panther]

u lose austria

[jade jewel]

Doesn't seem to turn the war off though

I mean I still have a front line there and an attack plan

But I'm not at war with germany it seems like

[brazen panther]

u can make frontlines in countries at peace too

guys where do i focus?

[jade jewel]

And why did it tell me to add divisions to a task after I tried to make a battle plan using the field marshall?

[brazen panther]

@dusty sandal

@swift parcel

[dusty sandal]

don't put anything in the states you get by default (check your focus but it should be burgos, galicia, leon and eastern aragon + navarra

and salamanca

[brazen panther]

does bilbao and asturias work well?

[vital plinth]

So doesn’t boost the actual project just the bar of new projects?

[brazen panther]

no

[dusty sandal]

I generally do 2 on barcelona (to bait AI) then focus bilbao and asturias up to lvl 2 then max out the on that isn't contested by the AI to ensure I get one lvl 3 then just spam the other to get it lvl 2 or 3

don't forget to suppress strikes constantly

so you don't get screwed over by the timers. If you don't you'll get less territories, less units, less equipment

[brazen panther]

thanks!

[lucid torrent]

How to core these states?

[agile knoll]

you have to click release nation

[brazen panther]

how does turkey not have cores on kurdistan in the first place

[dusky fern]

Cuz it aint kurdish

[worn shard]

What is civ greeding

[brazen panther]

can anyone tell me what's going on?

[uncut narwhal]

building a lot civs

[uncut narwhal]

the soviet div was in battle when the owner changed

[brazen panther]

oh

i thought soviets moved on to support falangists lol

[hollow plinth]

just kill them

[fathom thistle]

either focus or pp decision

[jade jewel]

What is attrition?

[fathom thistle]

ugh basically you will lose way more equipment with attrition

think about it like your unit is taking DoT

[jade jewel]

But how can I prevent that?

I have it on my troops like all the time

[fathom thistle]

then you are stacking too many units one tile where there is low supply

[jade jewel]

Oh...

[fathom thistle]

also being on harsh terrains affects attrition

like mountains or jungle

[jade jewel]

So I can't just stack my whole armee onto one single tile

[fathom thistle]

you shouldnt

each tile has different combat width

[jade jewel]

Not in war rn

But still

[fathom thistle]

You are not fighting with more divisions if you alreayd maxed out on width

[fathom thistle]

Try to only keep like 2 or 3 divs in that tile

atrition should be reduced or perish

[vital plinth]

With large man power pool and on dessert tile should I have more width ? Like 3x4?

[spare belfry]

What are some good hoi4 youtubers?

[keen hemlock]

i sorrow productions

[jade jewel]

How many divisions should I have per armee?

[fathom thistle]

just stick to the cap

one army can have 24 divisions

30 later on with right trait

[jade jewel]

Is 72 normal?

As cap?

[keen hemlock]

thats on garrison duty

[fathom thistle]

^

[jade jewel]

How do I set up a front line to a country I am only connected with by water?

[keen hemlock]

its very small

but you just do a normal front line on the connection

[iron veldt]

what country are you

[wild kiln]

Any doctrine / grad strategy guides for the new UI? Everything I find looks and seems to function differently.

[jade jewel]

I am italy and want to invade albania

[iron veldt]

grand battle plan, grand assault, & assault infantry i think are the best

[iron veldt]

you don’t need to invade

you have a focus that will auto annex them

[wild kiln]

What would you choose for a marine and aircraft carrier heavy military?

[iron veldt]

idk i don’t play navy like that lmao

just started learning after 1000 hours

[warped river]

question if i want to make an "elite" tank division (One thats just absolutely overpowered in every single aspect) what should i use for it and what stats should i go for

[wild kiln]

lol

[warped river]

even if theyre high production so i can just have a shit ton of infantry and make them responsible for breakthroughs

and encirclements

[keen hemlock]

theres a guide out there i gotta find it

[jade jewel]

I didn't even notice that part of the huge focus tree until now

[iron veldt]

lmaooo

IMO italy isn’t a good starting nation

[uncut narwhal]

germany is better imo

[warped river]

what are the most important tank stats for tanks that you want to be absolute units and high cost but just generally good stats

[jade jewel]

The guide from the official youtube channel said so😭

[warped river]

and be responsible for attacks

[iron veldt]

💀💀💀

[iron veldt]

soft attack & break through i think

[keen hemlock]

italy does just throw everything at you

[uncut narwhal]

in sp you want high soft attack

[warped river]

im going multi

[keen hemlock]

imo the best is canada because you have nothing to worry about

[warped river]

i have to team with my friend (yugo) against my other friend

(turkey)

as germany

for some reason

he doesnt want to help us

and just kill us

[uncut narwhal]

bro as germany it doesnt even matter what the other guy does

[warped river]

the thing is that hes allying the entire world

including the ussr

and he isnt even the primary goal

but if im too distracted hes just gonna kill my friend

also

[uncut narwhal]

wait so he is in a faction with the whole world?

[warped river]

he almost forced a guarantee on me

[warped river]

He tries to be

[keen hemlock]

wait what

[warped river]

he got into the allies

and relations with italy

and relations with the ussr

and sweden

[uncut narwhal]

sealion uk in 39

[keen hemlock]

yeah turkey can do that

[uncut narwhal]

hes cooked

i dont even think he can get tanks

[keen hemlock]

but if you cap uk it should be good

[uncut narwhal]

probably only at

if you do inf bricks

[warped river]

my friend got 20 tank divisions

by 1939

SOMEHOW

[keen hemlock]

turkey has no eco and not alot of manpower

[uncut narwhal]

as turkey?

[warped river]

he got market access to everything

[warped river]

yeah

[uncut narwhal]

shitty tanks

[warped river]

i had spies on him

[uncut narwhal]

do inf bricks

hes cooked

[keen hemlock]

whats the template

[uncut narwhal]

you are germany

[keen hemlock]

you can cas him to death too

[uncut narwhal]

you can out produce him in everything

just get hella air

[vital plinth]

Guys for defending dessert border against mass German army should I use a bigger infantry template ?

Like 22 with or 30 ?

[warped river]

doubt

[warped river]

he called them

"evil tanks"

[uncut narwhal]

use the template i send

[keen hemlock]

specifically for the desert you can

[uncut narwhal]

and add support at

[keen hemlock]

whats the shh for

[uncut narwhal]

for forts

lwk

[warped river]

oh hell

Bet

we're gonna start a new match today i think...

[warped river]

cant i change it for stosstruppen

[uncut narwhal]

how many hours does your friend have?

[warped river]

I might go prussian path

[uncut narwhal]

do that and remove shh

if he build forts

[warped river]

my yugo friend doesnt even know how to do anything

[uncut narwhal]

re add it

[uncut narwhal]

and turkey?

[warped river]

and my turkey friend

is good

but like

[uncut narwhal]

how many hours

[keen hemlock]

oh ok

[warped river]

we're on the same level

currently

[keen hemlock]

they lower soft attack

[warped river]

He has like 40 and i 100

but hes really smart

lol

[uncut narwhal]

oh lord

[keen hemlock]

like ik to put them in my marines

[uncut narwhal]

he wont stand a chance

hes ass

[keen hemlock]

but theres like no other point?

[warped river]

Not really

hes beaten me in other startegy games

before

also

[uncut narwhal]

brother

because you have 100 hours

[warped river]

hes manipulating my friend.

[uncut narwhal]

aswell

[keen hemlock]

uh

[spark cedar]

i deleted this game

[uncut narwhal]

sell your friend off your germany

you can take both

[spark cedar]

i got sick of getting blaasted

[uncut narwhal]

also in what way is he manipulating him lol?

[jade jewel]

Wdym I can't find a single pixel I can place it on

[iron veldt]

you can only do frontlines on connecting land

[keen hemlock]

ngl i thought you meant like sicily to italy

you can cross the straight witgout naval invading

[jade jewel]

But hwo

?

[iron veldt]

how to naval invade ?

[jade jewel]

No how to cross the straight without navel invading

[iron veldt]

you can’t

unless you fight through yugoslavia lmao

or have albania as your territory

[jade jewel]

That'd be helpful too ig

It's grayed out for some reason

[meager pier]

muhaha

[grand pelican]

hey, i've had the dlc subscription for some time but when i factory reset my pc they no longer appear in the files and steam says i dont own them despite me paying mounthly

[vital plinth]

What’s the general rule when defending what the withd should be ?

[keen hemlock]

Whatever combat width your troops are on

[hushed orchid]

anyone wanna play together

[manic valve]

while looking forward to the capitulation i was wondering what i should do. like puppeting all states or taking all for me? I like puppets but also recourses

[gleaming grove]

Why cant i click another air mission? Is there something like a cap?

[jade jewel]

The second the alloed came I got destoyed... well gg

[gleaming grove]

pls dont tell me i build this for a cap of 10 airraids

[jade jewel]

Is there a point of game over in hoi4?

[scenic nacelle]

When ur pc starts sounding like a jet engine

[jade jewel]

Dw that's since the start

But I'm a german puppet and I think I don't even have any land left

[worn shard]

Whats Best loyalty to the furher or succeser

[jade jewel]

I FOUND THE LAST ITALIAN POVINCE

And unlocked my atomic research

How do I still exist thanks to germany...

[gleaming grove]

it worked. Took like half an hour to setup all the airstrikes before WW3

[lapis rose]

How can i survive as romanov poland?

Are forts the way?

[vital plinth]

What does rocket interceptor project do ?

[keen hemlock]

It’s in electronics

[errant chasm]

another one of those gimmick projects you should ignore imo

[jade jewel]

Yeah that's what I unlocked

But i think that game is pretty much done anyway

[keen hemlock]

do you know how it compares to jets

[errant chasm]

no, since I don't care about rockets. I see it as just a gimmick and jet planes are an end game tech anyways.

[keen hemlock]

same

only time ive gotten them was for the achivment for poland

like i didnt een know theres a rocket engine 2 and 3

[stable field]

hi guys

i need some tips for germany

[warped river]

He keeps instilling fear into him

and being passive aggresive

in vc

saying he wont attack you then do something hostile

like cancelling the non aggresion pact

[uncut narwhal]

tell him you will bomb him with cas if he doesnt stop

[warped river]

or forcing me into a guarantee

[uncut narwhal]

and that you will send full military support

[warped river]

i told him that

i also threatened him with a navy

and my full military support

and he still did NOT withdraw

we told him to join us against the ussr too

[uncut narwhal]

send down 24x of the divisions i send you

with full air support

and he wont talk like that

[warped river]

Im not that worried about him but

i am worried he might have some impact

if i start ww2

and then fight the ussr

because the more you let the ussr build up the harder it becomes to fight

[uncut narwhal]

just kill the uk before you go into the soviets

if you invade soviets in 1940

with the divs i sent you

and collabs

and full green air

its very easy

[warped river]

Bet

also i think he has more hours than hes shown me

since my yugo friend has 200 hours and apparently they played together before

and the turkey guy beat him as albania

Pretty sure im better than both of them though

[uncut narwhal]

sounds just like the yugo guy was ass

[uncut narwhal]

your germany

so its not too hard

[warped river]

He doesn't even know how to play naval

and when i tried hleping him with bulgaria

my units starved to death

no supply

we still did win

[uncut narwhal]

dont fight in bad supply btw

just pull back

[warped river]

but i took more losses than it shouldve taken

[uncut narwhal]

and let him starve

[warped river]

Yeah

[uncut narwhal]

what dlcs do you have?

[warped river]

thats actually what i was planning to do LOL

but id turn on yugo later on

just because i want turkey dead

[warped river]

so i add stosstruppen for super heavy howitzer and add support at

Bet

[uncut narwhal]

yea you dont need the super heavy one

dont forget getting good air tho

as turkey he wont have good air

[warped river]

Mhm

[uncut narwhal]

do you have the air designer dlc?

[warped river]

whats the best doctrine for that infantry though

[warped river]

Yeah

atleast with him

he has all dlcs

[uncut narwhal]

you go assault infantry and grand operations

those are the important ones

[uncut narwhal]

as germany

upgrade focke wulf

produce with them

so you get the range buffs

[warped river]

Oh Bet

[uncut narwhal]

then make this fighter

this cas

[elfin perch]

why are my divisions not attacking

[uncut narwhal]

green air?

[stable field]

hi

[uncut narwhal]

enough transport planes

[stable field]

guys

[uncut narwhal]

invasion planned yet?

[stable field]

i want some tips for germany

[warped river]

Do i still keep mobile warfare

or should i change it off

[uncut narwhal]

go to superior firepower or grand battleplan

probably gbp tho

[warped river]

alright

[elfin perch]

yes

[uncut narwhal]

you know that your planes have a certain range?

please utilise it

[warped river]

also @uncut narwhal Idk if what ive been doing is a good idea

ive been trying something

where i like

Get out fresh recruits early

and train them off the bat

until they get +2 levels

and then send them onto the frontline

[uncut narwhal]

its actually horrible

kinda

because you lose equipment

that way

[warped river]

It was kinda efficient for me

[uncut narwhal]

wait till theyve finished training

[warped river]

but i guess logistically

[uncut narwhal]

then deploy

only if you HAVE to get them

then get them early

[warped river]

I see

so i just wait the full time

then do that?

[iron veldt]

yes

[warped river]

is there an actual way to reduce training time i only know the -10% for german military junta

but getting more manpower gets rid of that

[uncut narwhal]

not really

[stable field]

guys

excuse me but i have a question

[iron veldt]

what

[stable field]

what is some tips for germany

[austere roost]

Yeah but training time modifiers aren't really helpful

[stable field]

always i have problrm with germany

[warped river]

kill the british and do not let the ussr build up

the more you dont attack it the much more stronger than you it gets.

[iron veldt]

don’t build civs

[stable field]

?

[warped river]

if you attack it in 1939-1940 it's a lot weaker

but in 1941 going forward

it becomes EXPONENTIALLY stronger

by a lot

[austere roost]

Just follow bittersteel's Germany guide

[stable field]

ok

[stable field]

thats meqn i should start ww2 before 1939

?

[austere roost]

No

He means cap Uk before 1941

[iron veldt]

i don’t think he’s ready to cap uk before 41

[warped river]

@uncut narwhal how did you even get this much i added stosstruppen and support at and i only have 131 soft attack, 70 breakthrough, 450 defense,0 armor, and 31 hard attack, etc

[uncut narwhal]

gun tech

doctrines

etc

[warped river]

I see

Yeah that makes sense

[uncut narwhal]

only get the main gun tech

dont waste time on the top one

that gives break

[warped river]

its fine anyways

so not only will i have

franz halder

10% infantry division buff

like 20% from generals

and ontop of that prussian buffs

Yeah that'll be fun

also uh @uncut narwhal one last thing i really want to know since i kind of already know about it but i haven't fully mastered it

how do i get full planning bonus and make it so every infantry on a frontline attacks forward at once

I've pulled it off before i think

even if its not practicla

[uncut narwhal]

make a frontline

draw an offensive arrow

and wait

for planning

then hit the arrow above your general

everybody will attack at once

[warped river]

how do you look at how much planning bonus you will get

[uncut narwhal]

on your divs

you can see

its a blue bar

[warped river]

Oh do i just make a ton of arrows infront of each infantry or do i stretch an arrow across the entire frontline

[uncut narwhal]

next to org and hp

[warped river]

Oh

[uncut narwhal]

no just one big one lol

[warped river]

Just one will make all of the infantry attack forward

Wow

alright thank you

[uncut narwhal]

yea just use a field marshal

[warped river]

I also like to take advantage of the spanish war

to get 2-4 vets

and my generals to get

infantry traits

[manic valve]

should i agree? it seems a little bit unfair because the allies would get way more cores. what happens if i dont?

[cold bloom]

Normal peacedeal if you dont agree

[austere roost]

That's usually for other traits, and try to support Republican Spain to get the Spanish gold

[cold bloom]

Unless you have less than 50% warscore, agreeing is only for if you want historical flavor

[warped river]

what do you exactly get from the spanish gold reserves

ive never actually tried

supporting it

i've just been doing nationalist

[austere roost]

-15% consumer goods factor for a year

[warped river]

oh thats really good

that could mean i can keep up mefo bills longer

so more military factories

[austere roost]

So if you're at 100 factories that's 3 free civs for a year for the cost of 25 pp

[manic valve]

ah okay, but if i disagree and when i am in the peace conference could i still make the puppet "GDR" just with a few more cores?

[austere roost]

Mefo bills aren't a problem until 1940 if you do price controls

[warped river]

How do i make the mefo bills last the most

[austere roost]

It's better to own Germany directly

[cold bloom]

Nope

[austere roost]

You don't you try to autarky asap

[warped river]

I see

is economic growth or the four year plan better

[manic valve]

is that even possible with only 66% warscore?

[warped river]

i usually only go four year plan

[manic valve]

cuz i also want the whole eastern europe as my puppets

[iron veldt]

if you go non historical do economic growth

[austere roost]

Yes

There are wcs in 1937

[vital plinth]

Should I even use the large canons on figthers ?

[iron veldt]

is that the 1940 tech or later

[keen hemlock]

cannon 1 is 39 i think large is 40

[iron veldt]

i’ve never used cannons

[fathom thistle]

the later one yes, dont use the first one

stick to heavy mgs in meantime

[vital plinth]

Is there a way to get the China faction to join war against axis ?

[scenic nacelle]

china is usually dead by then...

[compact goblet]

everyone joins theirr faction anway

[agile knoll]

anyone wanna play?

[full dock]

I'm brand-new to the game, and while I don't have the $90 for the six DLCs that were recommended to me, I do have the $36 for the By Blood Alone, La Resistance, and No Step Back DLCs.
Do those sound reasonable for a noob like me?

[inner sparrow]

yeah

nsb and bba are good

[snow venture]

i am trying to do the pope achievements, but when capping france i annexed it instead of turning it into a puppet. because of this my Balance of power shifted right ALOT. I've done 0 right focuses/decisions and after stregthen the papacy, im still at 15% right. I know that the liturgical reforms refreshes yearly, but rn its 1940 and im 15% to the right.

would releasing france / ethiopia shift me left? any other ways to shift left faster than waiting 5 years?

[gleaming grove]

How can the Cpu naval invade on the other side of the globe? No way they actually have naval dominance in all the tiles. Its like impossible to defend against

[silent holly]

how do u get access to the majors tank packs, like the soviet tank pack featuring the t54, t44 3d sprites etc

[vital plinth]

I have an issue where my super heavey ship is very slow and slow my strike force down how do people use them ? I was told they very good but they are very slow and it takes long before my fleet get to battle any advice?

[iron veldt]

yes

they add the designers & that’s pretty important for game play

[manic valve]

Is there a focus for sovjet union with the road to 56 mod to conquer sweden?

[iron veldt]

you can just manually justify

[manic valve]

but will great britain guarantee it? after ww2?

[iron veldt]

probably

kill everyone

you might be able to early game

[obsidian spade]

guys

[vital plinth]

Im playing India got all the axis and Japan on me form both sides and Britain and USA are not helping much they only some in Africa rest is constantly moving around the sea or in Britain can someone help me what’s going on why is AI behaving so bad ?

[obsidian spade]

all my convoys are gone idk why i dont even do that much trade

i should have 784

and i dont have any naval invasions pending either

[vital plinth]

Hey @austere roost I’m stuck in British Malaya I’m fighting mountain plus river tile or forest rivertile supply is not bad but I don’t know how to get across or beat them

[gleaming grove]

how is this even possible?

[iron veldt]

did you accept lend lease from someone

[obsidian spade]

yeah some

what do i do now?

[iron veldt]

cancel the lend lease

probably USA or UK

or not uk nvm

[modest aspen]

Yo

how do I do naval invasions

like landing troops across the ocean on an island

[iron veldt]

you need naval superiority first

[wanton arch]

does anyone have trouble with the AI being tougher? i used to be able to kick butt but now i cant make any progress

[pastel raft]

change the difficulty before u start the game

it alters how “aggressive” and “strong” AI is

[keen hemlock]

convoys have like .1 aa

[vital plinth]

How do I use the nukes I have ?

Do I need to resseach intercontinental bomber or can I use strategic bombing ?

[keen hemlock]

raid

nucelar raid

pretty sure you just need a strat bomber

[vital plinth]

Ok it mentioned both but cool

[wanton arch]

in the scenario of 1936, navy, how can i move them to the pacific if they are restricted? They did that update years ago and i still dont get it.

[vital plinth]

I dunno if I make mistake but it took me all the way to 1945 to make nuclear weapon but now I need to do 780 days to get thempnuclear weapon , am k doing it wrong ? Should I have built more nuclear facilities to resseach more same time ?

[pastel raft]

i am a newbie do NOT ask me about navy

[vital plinth]

Is super sonic jet the strong fighter ?

[wind canyon]

yes, technically its the best but it comes with some downsides too

like they are much more expensive then regular fighters and they have much shorter range but they have alot of speed

[austere roost]

It takes too long to research

[wind canyon]

yeah that too

[neat widget]

they don't have much shorter range

[austere roost]

But it's the best plane and they have best range

[wind canyon]

so unless your game goes till like

[austere roost]

You're thinking about jet engines

[neat widget]

their main downsides is their resource usage and especially their research time

[austere roost]

You can download faster special projects mod

[wind canyon]

oh wait shoot u right

[austere roost]

But even with jet engines supersonics have more range than other planes

[neat widget]

yeah, for supersonic fighters they have a high base range and so this mitigates the loss they have from being forced to equip jet engines

supersonic fighters are objectively the best effectiveness / cost you can get out of a fighter otherwise

[austere roost]

Supersonics

[neat widget]

Yeah

[vital plinth]

So it’s normal I first have it finished around 1946-47?

[austere roost]

Yeah

But I also had faster special projects

But I didn't rush plane tech

So maybe you can get it by 1946

[vital plinth]

I got the 10% for jet projects

Im almost done with axial jet in 1945

[vital plinth]

Im playing India lol I decided to also focus a bit on navry it’s impossible to build from scratch I have to build a lot of mills too but ressouces is problem to early with the big ships so I wasted a lot on trade with my civs only got 120 mills at 1945 with 200 divs

[neat widget]

Yeah you can probably get it by 1945

[neat widget]

navy is possible to build from scratch if you have 40 dockyards and 3 years I'd say

which if you're india you have

[vital plinth]

Yeah it’s possible I got 5 good battleships full heavry gun and 4 improved carriers and light cruisers and a SH BB with full gund ( I didn’t know I was supposed to not fill it because of speed )

Issue is destroyers I could first produce them late

But i dont know if it was mistake to build only BB and carriers early or to mix destroyers and capitals

And stole from the Soviet

[austere roost]

Well red navy is a really bad navy

Even Italy is better than them

[vital plinth]

I just don’t know if I’m doing it wrong building full battleships and light crusiers first that makes me use civs to trade ressouces

[austere roost]

And +4 Italy still loses to base Uk navy

[vital plinth]

Yeah I just refit it mostly need their screens for protection on the capitals

[vital plinth]

But this issue so what slowed my mill production down a lot so I only have 120 mills in 1945 ?

[celest vale]

anyone have problem with save mio update ? it just stupid remove when i new game again even after save.

so useless

[vital plinth]

Maybe I’m expecting too many screens to my navry strike force ?

[vital plinth]

But also this your thoughts @neat widget

I can maybe get good amount of dockyards in 1940 50 dockyards but a lot of spent on building civs and some mills early to have production of other things

[keen hemlock]

how exactly do the french extra research slot focuses work after you come back to the mainland ass free france? can you just not do them?

[neat widget]

how many screens do you have

You'd need about 40 destroyers I think since you have 10 capital ships and carriers

[vital plinth]

Maybe 26-30 atm building the others now

But other question should I build my captial ships early or wait a bit or build fewer at a time to have more civs for construction than trading for steel ?

Im not sure if im designing my battleships too ekspensiv either lol

Made them full heavey guns

[bold solar]

Yo im playing German Reich and I just defeated france and I need help organizing my industry and research and army can someone help

[wind canyon]

yeah sure what do you need help with specifically?

[odd canopy]

That's a vague question.

[keen hemlock]

imo early

because you get them earlier

they take a while

[vagrant stratus]

Would anyone be able to point me towards a good mountaineer and infantry template?

[neat widget]

yeah build your capitals early

because they take so long to build

[wind canyon]

infantry temps should be about 18w with a 3x3 block of inf plus assorted support companies like suport arty, aa

[neat widget]

for the destroyers you could build those with dockyards built later

[wind canyon]

mountaineers iirc should be around 35 w (I can't remember if line arty should be or shouldn't be used)

[vagrant stratus]

Ah, 35 and not 36?

[errant chasm]

no need for line arty. 32-33 width is better if you are fighting on mountaineers. 35-39 width is better if you are fighitng on plains/want to squeeze a little more stats

[neat widget]

^

[wind canyon]

ah right well there u go

[neat widget]

35w brings maximum attack/defense/breakthrough stats in plains because plains are a 70w tile

But you can go overwidth by 33%, so anything up to 46.5w is fine for plains

[vagrant stratus]

Gotcha gotcha. Should be fine with just 36 then?

[neat widget]

yeah you should be fine

[wind canyon]

mountains were 30w per tile right?

[neat widget]

25w

[wind canyon]

ah right

[neat widget]

so the maximum you can fit there is 33.2w

[vagrant stratus]

Would it be better to shrink it a bit then?

[neat widget]

there is a... schizo strat that involves bashing mountain tiles with 48w units (vistula might know about this) but genuinely are you okay if you're going to use it on this one tile in Algeria

[neat widget]

could be, but the HP gains largely outweigh the stat increases by a certain point

[vagrant stratus]

I see. Probably just stick with 36w then?

[neat widget]

Oran must have killed this player's pet

[neat widget]

depends if you want to go into mountains or not with your mountaineers

[vagrant stratus]

Mm.. I mean I imagine the horde of infantry can help with that, but it does also feel weird not having mountaineers able to go into mountains lmao

[neat widget]

it sounds weird, but it's pretty normal

the maximal size of mountaineers i've seen is 39.6w btw (22/0)

[vagrant stratus]

Ah, gotcha :O

[neat widget]

18/0 would be 32.4w

which is typically what we recommend when using them in mountains

In any case, the more I hear about hoi4 the less confident i am in my decisions as you can see

[vagrant stratus]

Ah, 18/0 meaning 18 mountaineers in the division template right?

[vagrant stratus]

God yeah, it's why I can never give advice for any game I play, even if I feel like I know a decent amount-

[neat widget]

get outta here lmao

[visual yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-tony-stark-tony-stark-meme-iron-man-meme-gif-25013071

[neat widget]

also don't know why the guys in great war redux do that for their tanks too

[visual yacht]

<@&846894118219022336>

[neat widget]

I've been making a secret spreadsheet for the past few days

Trying to get as much template information as I can on there

[scenic nacelle]

tanks in that mod make no sense

[neat widget]

wait why

[scenic nacelle]

their attack is so small

for being a moving armored chasis with guns

[sick cloak]

any idea how to fix this

[scenic nacelle]

and im pretty sure their armour can be penned with howitzers?

[sick cloak]

i was trying to play old versions of some mods idek what to do

[celest vale]

stupid launcher error

[neat widget]

don't you still get like 760 attack per division?

[sick cloak]

do you know how to fix it

[celest vale]

try verify your game

if still not you can try install launcher manual

[wanton arch]

playing as the U.S. i have 15 capital ships set to "convoy raiding" to blockade Venezula. still says theres no blockade. Am I missing something?

[neat widget]

isn't there a "blockade venezuela" button?

in the decisions tab

[scenic nacelle]

im trying to remember its amount i havent played it in a while

um

[wanton arch]

Figured it out. I guess you gotta be at war first.

[errant chasm]

Wait what?! I thought 40width and beyond won't work

<@&846894118219022336>

[neat widget]

because mountains are 50w 48w will still carry most stats

but this is exclusively for mountains and marshes

this is the division someone made when they looked at a mountain and got extremely angry

[errant chasm]

Oh yeah that makes sense.

Tho I wonder if in theory a 60 width division would work on a forest tile?

[neat widget]

maybe

but how are you even getting there

[errant chasm]

line artillery :XD

[bold solar]

Like how much factories to put on what weapons what to research such as weapons and airplanes and how much divisions I need for ussr

[neat widget]

true

but the 48w are typically tank divs

[errant chasm]

fair

[wind canyon]

uh generally, for the ussr if your attacking in 1942 i go with about 2 army groups worth and leave an army or two on port guard

research your next guns, planes, tanks and keep up with the industry research

factories are dependent on what your need the most and your shift them around depending on if you have a lot of something but not enough of another

[wind canyon]

of course this is dependendnt on what your army is composed of

[errant chasm]

couldn't you fit one more battalion and make it a 50 width since mountain tiles are a max of 50 lol?

[wind canyon]

are you running any armor? mechanized? Mortised?

[neat widget]

yeah but then if you attack in two directions you have issues because 75 * 1.33 < 100

[errant chasm]

oh

[twin summit]

Any tips for starting out. I'm trying to learn hoi4 after playing ck2 for a few years but things just feel really complicated and videos are not helping

[neat widget]

btw about the guy getting angry at a mountain in Oran: yeah, this envisages that you get 5th battalion slot by 1940 so that you can kick France out of there

[bold solar]

Ty but I don't think im that good to do it with 2 army groups

[neat widget]

Which is totally possible, but also questionable for normal players

[errant chasm]

It's less about royal dynasties or politics and more on division micro and the economy is super abstracted in hoi4 to start off

[wind canyon]

if you have enough manpower/euipment get another army group of infantry

[bold solar]

Okey

[wind canyon]

remeber at this point in time the soviet army is bad stats wise since they have a bunch of negative modifiers

[twin summit]

Yea so far from what I have pieced together thats what I was getting. The hard part for me is actually getting started once I'm able to figure that out I could probably learn the same way I did ck.

[errant chasm]

okay first focus on the production

I like to build inf equipment and field lots infantry divisions. After that focus on fighters and close air support

[subtle socket]

this games army is very indept compared to any paradox game

the meta armies between mp sp are very different and many different strategies can work

[neat widget]

well in any teams MP you can split your army in two

which means you have an army with a specialized offensive doctrine and an army with a specialized defensive doctrine

whereas in SP you hvae to have both offensive and defensive units in the same army

[subtle socket]

in sp the defensive mp army would work

[neat widget]

that said, the templates aren't that different tbh

[subtle socket]

who ever has air wins

template is only secondary

[neat widget]

well the focus order is also similar between SP and MP

[subtle socket]

well not exactly in sp u just rush everything

[vagrant stratus]

So uh, how does one go about invading the UK?
I can usually get the port and one or two surrounding tiles, pushing forward from there is the issue lmao

[red mesa]

what are you landing with and how many? Are you reinforcing the beachhead immediately? Are you moving air to cover the landing too?

[vagrant stratus]

afaik the limit is 12 right? 2 invasions, 6 divisions per? That's what I've been landing with, and it's 5 mountaineers and 7 infantry
I do in fact reinforce asap with quite a fair amount of units, but it doesn't seem to matter much.
And.. I have in fact been forgetting to move the planes. Are they that make or break for it?

[red mesa]

Might just be that you're not aggressive enough after making landfall. You should be trying to break out immediately to secure more ports and start cutting off units. The air is very important as the UK has a big airforce and will CAS you to death otherwise

depending on exactly what the wider war looks like they can be pretty easy to crack with just some mountaineers, inf and a few tank divs

[neat widget]

You should try upgrading your amphibious invasion capacity

[vagrant stratus]

Ahh, gotcha.

[vagrant stratus]

Mm, they just kinda surround me instantly and it becomes impossible to break out, but it may be the air difference then.

[vagrant stratus]

..I can do that? Though as a heads up I'm playing basegame

Just in case that's a dlc thing

[red mesa]

Can happen if you're only landing on the port and not also the tile next to it. Dover is good because there's two tiles behind it, so the port can be taken quite safely and used to land more troops and cycle units as needed before pushing Portsmouth

[neat widget]

it's in the tab where you unlock naval modules

[vagrant stratus]

Oh my god I've never known those were there.

[vagrant stratus]

Nah, I do remember to take the other tiles! And what do you mean by cycle? :O

[red mesa]

cycling is where you manually move units in and out of combat to avoid losing a defensive battle. The lowest org unit(s) are manually retreated one at a time in order to force the reinforcements into battle and allow recovery

[tardy knoll]

so im trying to pull sea lion but cant get naval superiority over the chanel

what should i do

[vagrant stratus]

Ahhh, gotcha gotcha. Alright, so I'll get that tech researched, and work on more of an airforce cause I'm not sure all my planes would even touch the UK's airforce lmao
I'll also try cycling, thank you both!!

[red mesa]

what does your navy and air force look like?

[tardy knoll]

air force looks good i can get air control but navy is not at all good

[red mesa]

then you can either try and bait the royal navy into eating naval bombing from the air force or use paras. Rebuilding the navy if it's already battered might take too long and allow the yanks in

[tardy knoll]

i see

ill try paras and naval bombers

[red mesa]

fwiw the kriegsmarine doesn't need to be that big to win if you have the air advantage

as long as there are enough screens left for the capitals, the navs and cas on naval missions can really even the odds

[tardy knoll]

what do you recommend after annexing france to have naval dominace over the chanel?

[red mesa]

Well, when france falls I usually go straight into sealion. The buildup from day 1 had this in mind so I would have build a bunch of light cruisers and naval bombers by then

[tardy knoll]

so just produce light cruisers and naval bombers?

[red mesa]

"just"

[tardy knoll]

well that and the other ships?

i have 15 hours so...

[red mesa]

I don't bother with other ships as germany unless I'm doing high castle

the naval bombers are in addition to the normal fighters and cas

[tardy knoll]

so use light cruisers and naval bombers on the chanel?

[red mesa]

the entire surface fleet. With as much air power as you can summon. I mention light cruisers as the only ones I built after the start of the game besides convoys

[tardy knoll]

i know fighters, naval bombers, and naval should be in the chanel but should i put cas and heavy?

[red mesa]

cas can do naval missions, tacs and strats can't

[tardy knoll]

and as soon as i get that support i should invade southern british ports?

[red mesa]

plan the invasion first, gain supremacy, launch against Dover and the tile(s) next to it. Once you land, put the air over England and in their air bases, then try to be aggressive so they don't have time to react properly. You need all of England and Wales to cap them.

[tardy knoll]

thank you. one last question, in production when you produce say onefighter how many fighters is that and where do those fighters show up

[red mesa]

1 fighter is 1 fighter. It will go into existing air wings if there are any deployed of that type. Otherwise it goes into stockpile and needs deploying at an air base

[tardy knoll]

ah okay

thank you

[celest vale]

If you can rush ussr fast you will have all time play navy sea wit alliance, that is other way choice if you cant win invade england soon

[odd canopy]

I don't understand, no matter what I do, I just simply cannot push the Soviets, never, I have never been able to defeat them before, even with 1,000 hours in this game, because they have like 400 divisions by the year 1941, and there's nothing that I can do about it, not evne my tanks can push them back, how do you push them back?

Like, how am I even suposse to push against this?

[red mesa]

you could start by having manpower in your divisions

or fuel for your air and tanks

[odd canopy]

I did have manpower.

And I did have fuel.

But then it all just dissapeared.

I spent all of my fuel on gaining like 2 tiles, and all of my manpower went into capturing lithuania... And then the rest of the 400k manpower that was left after that went into the Soviet offensives against my lines.

[red mesa]

as germany you should be building a lot of refineries for rubber and fuel to help keep your airforce and tanks running. Those two things are what you attack with. Your inf is best for defendind/line filling

[odd canopy]

I built a ton of thse.

[red mesa]

you're attacking with inf, which is very manpower intensive

[odd canopy]

I attacked with tanks, and that didn't work, because no amount of tanks can push back 400 divisions on a single tile.

[red mesa]

I suspect your templates and designs might suck

[odd canopy]

I'll pull them up right now.

[red mesa]

I can see from the screenshots that most of those tanks are at partial strength at best. Also that you're not concentrating them

[odd canopy]

I did concentrate them, and it didn't work, and they're at partial strength because I did the all out assault after no land was being gained.

I had a bunch of tank divisions, full strength, concentrated too, and I gained 2 whole tiles...

Literally 2.

[red mesa]

strip 4 motorised out, replace with 1 medium battalion. 40w is too big and motorised isn't as good as mech

[red mesa]

this sucks

[odd canopy]

How should I fix it then?

[red mesa]

forget speed above 6kmh. Use the medium howitzer main gun, use two heavy MG turrets, add armor clicks, if you have easy maintenance use that

also MAN is not the best MIO

[odd canopy]

Is that really a big enough difference to make me actually be able to push stuff out?

[odd canopy]

I got the DLC for that today, so, I don't know too well what I'm doing with that.

[red mesa]

fair enough

henschel is better

[odd canopy]

Noted.

[red mesa]

it will help the combat stats but if you don't actually make enough of them and have manpower it won't matter

[odd canopy]

Right..

But how do people beat the Soviet strategy of infantry spam?

Like, do you see how much infantry they have per tile?

There ain't no way that I'm pushing that without destroying every last tank in my army.

[red mesa]

doesn't matter, if you have air and tanks doing the work of cutting divs off rather than just pushing them back, you'll have fewer to deal with

you want tanks to attack from two concentrated points and drive behind the enemy to cut off and destroy divisions

you know, like WWII

[odd canopy]

Yeah, that's what I attempted to do.

I'll try out the tank changes and the MIO change, and see if that helps.

[red mesa]

yeah but you attempted this with half-full divisions and no fuel

[celest vale]

Firt use gurdian become marshall second you need 24 tank to blitzkrieg ussr

[red mesa]

no, you don't

[celest vale]

Yes

[odd canopy]

No, that was after the all out assault.

[red mesa]

you can do barb with like 8 tank divs if you use them properly

[odd canopy]

They were full strength with fuel when I was doing the initial attack.

[celest vale]

He is new

[red mesa]

so?

[odd canopy]

There's a point where you're no longer new, and you just suck at the game.

[celest vale]

Damn how you play 1k h and cant win ussr

[odd canopy]

Because I don't know how to push 11 infantry, 2 tank, and 5 calvarly divisions off of a tile.

[red mesa]

btw, which doctrines and advisors are you running?

[odd canopy]

Erm, let me go get those screenshots.

i forgor

[red mesa]

you don't actually have to push all of them off, only have to de-org the ones in the combat. Reinforcement and combat width exists

[odd canopy]

I know that, but.

I can't reinforce meme, I don't know how to do that, and it seems like a cheesy strat anyways.

Or maybe it's not, I don't know.

[red mesa]

it happens on it's own if your stats are high enough. High attack, breakthrough and coordination will mean the enemy divs get targetted more effectively and lose org faster than the reinforcements can enter the battle

[odd canopy]

Oooooh.

That makes sense.

[red mesa]

Halder would give 10% attack but Beck isn't bad

[odd canopy]

Huh.

No clue who you're talking about.

[red mesa]

Chief of army

you're using Beck, who gives org, Halder gives attack instead

[odd canopy]

Ah, right.

Yeah, probably a better idea, but, I hired that guy in like 1937, 1938, something like that, when I don't think that I had Hadler available to me at the time.

[red mesa]

Yeah Halder comes from the army focuses

[odd canopy]

Makes sense.

[red mesa]

how do the logistics look just behind the front? Did you upgrade the rails at all?

[odd canopy]

I just set everything to use the 3 trucks thing.

I wasn't taking any supply debuffs at the time of the invasion.

[red mesa]

that increases the range, not the capacity

[odd canopy]

So I didn't feel the need to.

[odd canopy]

Noted.

Thanks for the help by the way.

[red mesa]

np

[keen hemlock]

Wrong channel

[errant chasm]

Is there any discord mods awake <@&846894118219022336>

[iron veldt]

thought i was in my picks discord lmao

solid parlay though

[gaunt vortex]

How do I change this?

[plucky otter]

Check pins

[gaunt vortex]

What should I add?

[plucky otter]

Remove the trucks

remove maintanance company

add more mountaineers till its 32 width

[iron veldt]

25 width maybe cause your turkey

add anti air, flame tanks, support art, engineers

rangers too

[plucky otter]

rangers are best replaced with light tank recon

[iron veldt]

just delete the whole thing & make it camels 👍🏽

[gaunt vortex]

Fr💔🥀

[iron veldt]

you do you tho fr

you don’t always gotta play meta

have fun

[gaunt vortex]

Dude Idk what to do 🥀💔😭

[iron veldt]

hell yeah 👍🏽

[plucky otter]

Just dont get templates from reddit

thats the bare minimum

[iron veldt]

yeah reddits stupid

[gaunt vortex]

Damn

I couldn't really find good ones in support pin

That's i have

[plucky otter]

This is pretty good, you can replace flame tank with artillery

and light armored recon with recon rangers

[plucky otter]

and all the marines can be replaced with mountaineers

[plucky otter]

Based

[red mesa]

bannable offense

[iron veldt]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[plucky otter]

The duality of man

[iron veldt]

“good for late game” 0 support equipment attached

[gaunt vortex]

Should I add sup alt anti tank and anti air too?

Sm like this?

[iron veldt]

you don’t need anti tank

[plucky otter]

anti tank is useless in singleplayer

anti air can pierce ai tanks

[gaunt vortex]

Damn

[plucky otter]

and dont add any line anti air

You wont be needing that in singleplayer

and its a mountaineer

You dont need the logistics company

[iron veldt]

do the doctrine that lowers the combat width too

[plucky otter]

This is where new hoi4 players are getting the meta divs fr

[iron veldt]

🥀🥀🥀

[plucky otter]

Moterized recon spotted 💔

[gaunt vortex]

So this is a good one?

[plucky otter]

top 10 worst things in hoi4

[iron veldt]

no

[plucky otter]

God no

[iron veldt]

please don’t

[gaunt vortex]

What should I do with the trucks made?

[plucky otter]

Dont use templates from anywhere but this server

And specifically use the templates in pins

[plucky otter]

Moterize supply

[iron veldt]

motorized supply

[plucky otter]

I wish I was in game to show how

But if you click on your unit

there should be a little horse icon in the corner

click it twice

[gaunt vortex]

Ye I know that part

[plucky otter]

Thats not even a space marine

[iron veldt]

🤣🤣🤣

[plucky otter]

amtracs are just mech

Stat for stat pretty much

amtracs are mech

what is hoi4 tiktok on about

A space marine is a infantry/special forces unit with a single high armor tank

[iron veldt]

lmaoooo

[plucky otter]

Or if you can armored light recon can work for the armor aswell

[austere roost]

and space marines are trash

stop building them

[plucky otter]

This is true

[iron veldt]

i will use my space marines til the day i die

[cold garnet]

Multiple tanks still count

[plucky otter]

I dont really know shit about space marines

Because I dont use them

[iron veldt]

gives hardness to all your divs

i think it’s good if you have a smaller industry

[neat widget]

@cursive fiber you will have to micro the war with turkey i imaigne

You don't need to be researching support weapons for the most part, researching infantry equipment will increase your defense and breakthrough faster

@cursive fiber it gets canceled at 28 days if you are fascist and invite italy

honestly i'd just continue building mils

you have a glut of civs

Yeah pick the offense guy

@cursive fiber no not really, but you should try to win in turkey first before dealing with romania

Okay @spelen8 you need to learn how to pin enemy units

if units are in a battle, their movement is slowed, so if you're trying to encircle and they're about to retreat it's worth it to click them

also gallipoli should be easy to take

or don't and you set up a port trap

If you're in a war, don't always set your game to 5-speed because things like that can happen without you noticing

pause and play or playing on a lower speed will do wonders to your ability against the ai

@cursive fiber if turkey fails to manage its Kurdish resistance properly, then they revolt

and that's probably what happened here

A low probability event but still an event

[austere roost]

Yeah 6% hardness for 9/1 SPG like that matters

[neat widget]

Yeah western Thrace is annoying

@cursive fiber pause the game right now

Is Romania in the Axis yet

Yeah I was the one

I mean if you can't beat Turkey there's sort of no point in contemplating what Romania is going to do, so