ask-for-help-here

[gleaming grove]

i see that makes sense because i just finished a war and started mass producing smaller infantery units as border guards. So i guess im currently needing more weapons/equip than im producing, but since im stacked out i wont need to worry about that

A different question: Do nukes kill troops if i hit their tile?

[hoary glen]

yes. They get massive damage and lose a lot of manpower and equipment. Just remember that attacking through nuclear wasteland is painful as well.

[gleaming grove]

but do the divisions disappear?

The US has like 300 divisions accross my mexican border and i wonder if i could just eradicate them completely

[hoary glen]

afaik divs can't disappear. But they can become so weak that a single click into them whipes them

[gleaming grove]

hm

what about mass paratrooping in third row, nuking the front and than pushing them from both sides to make them disappear

[hoary glen]

also nukes have splash. Be careful not to hit yourself :D

[gleaming grove]

yeah i would just let my allies tank the nuke and move in afterwards

[lusty basin]

what are good infantry templates?

[austere roost]

18w with support art and aa

if you want offensive templates check pin

[vital plinth]

But heavey fighter is still medium right ?

[lyric geyser]

A heavy fighter is a medium airframe

[vital plinth]

Ah ok got it

I have 4 rows of 15 civs my building of mills is going slow as Iran and I lack many power it takes a lot of time to get PP I’m in 1942 now man power is still going slow up any suggestions what I should do ?

[dusty sandal]

only thermonuclear nukes do, and they wipe entire regions which can be funny to look at when launching a nuke in siberia where 500 km of land are wiped clean of troops

[lusty basin]

i caught ethiopia

what now?

do i go forward with this?

[ocean bane]

Hello, its reccomendable as GER to start the war with a Divison of mediums like 4-5 mediums at first, but keep increasing the numbers as the war starts or better to start with 8 mediums?
Also if i start war in 39-40, its better to way for mediums, or i shouls invest in lights for the first years of the war?

[hoary glen]

You want to use mediums regardless. You can beat Poland and France with 4, but more are ofc always better.

[dusty sandal]

these decisions are beyond useless

[hoary glen]

You can try to do the Missions for Mussolini, but only do what is required there. Not all decisions are usefull, so look out what you click :D

[ocean bane]

Thanks

[hoary glen]

Also just to be sure. You mean like 4 Tank divs on the field. Or do you mean like 4 Tank Battalions in a Template?

[ocean bane]

Oh wait yeah

For the first things i mean batallions

[hoary glen]

Ah, you really want to have your template mostly done for war. 8 Mediums and 8 Mech is what you ideally have. You can have some of the Mech be horses, but you don't really want to compromize on the Tanks bc that's all your stats.

[glacial steeple]

no

you can make interwar mediums its not hard

[hoary glen]

If you don't have the xp consider hiring your army advisor sooner and joining more civil wars

[quaint karma]

Hello everyone, I have a question, it’s been a while since I played hoi4, and now that I’m back I’m getting interested about knowing the game with more depth, my question is a bit general but how do you organise your army ? what do you do with it so it becomes strong ? what stats should I focus when organising or reforming an army ? I’m talking about ground army

[twin kayak]

puppet or annex ?

what is the best

[austere roost]

Unless you're fascist, annex

Ussr can get insane buffs with comecon puppets but unless you do non traditional strats you won't get comecon until 1943

[austere roost]

The first step into getting a strong army is getting a strong industry and if you can't get that you won't have a good army

Try and see if you can get 300 factories as ussr with mils starting on June 1938 (the latest you should start building mils as ussr)

Then you can try to make "meta" divisions in pins

[thin tusk]

how people get tank divisions on early game? i always have <12 on 1939 and i want moooooore

[twin kayak]

can someone say what I'm doing wrong ?

just roast me, idc

[keen hemlock]

which air sub doctrines are the best?

[untold river]

How exactly does the game decide if a mod is a “cheat” and disables achievements

[twin kayak]

aren't archievements disabled when you are not in ironman mode ?

I would say it doesn't detect anything

[untold river]

If you use some mods it disables achievements regardless of if you’re using Ironman or not

[twin kayak]

didn't know that

I didn't even know some things were considered cheating since it's mostly single player

and why would there be "cheating" mods if you can access the console at any time ?

I don't know enough about cheating in this game

[ocean bane]

Is armor meme still used vs AI or there's another better strat?

[twin kayak]

I know that people still put a super armoured tamk destroyer batallion in their templates

[astral anchor]

what are good colonial division templates

[ocean bane]

tysm

[tepid umbra]

18 width inf is usually fine

[astral anchor]

Support companies?

[sand ember]

what do you mean colonial divisions? like a garrison template?

[astral anchor]

Divisions to fight in Africa

[sand ember]

oh

[keen hemlock]

just use normal inf

mabye add logis

[astral anchor]

Alr bet

Thanks

[deep pagoda]

question, if I put a division using the defend area command, does it help to reduce the resistance level in that area or no?

[blissful nova]

yea

[blissful nova]

camelry/ca

ca

cav

depends where in africa but usually i do slightly smaller then my normal inf

with support and logi

btw allies dont defend africa at all

so u will have no problem there

[astral anchor]

The British put light tanks in there all the time when I try to take the Suez Canal

[blissful nova]

just encircle them and take the ports

they cant do shi

but let me guess

you are getting destoyed by royal navy?

[glacial steeple]

units to garrison the colonies against uprisings duh

[wind canyon]

no it dosen't area defense guards ports and what not, not reduce reistance

[deep pagoda]

does it at least help with resistance attacking buildings and railways?

[astral anchor]

My fault I had my notifications on mentions only

[wind canyon]

grab a single horse template set it as your garrison division and set to like martial law

[wind canyon]

no reistance is only affected by complaince, garison law what the garison template is

[astral anchor]

Nah it’s just fighting in Tripolitania you got a real short border and the British have tanks on both of the two tiles you can push on and because they are right next to the Suez Canal they got perfect supply

[wind canyon]

do you understand how to set a garison template?

[glacial steeple]

no

[deep pagoda]

yes I created an MP devision template and set one up already, I just wondered if putting extra MP devisions there helped or not

[wind canyon]

oh and make sure you set your equipment priority to garrisons is high

[wind canyon]

uh mp as a suport company is not nesscary but its good to have

[wind canyon]

what is it consisted of tho? it should be calvary

generally just a single calvary divsion on martial law will handle all of your garisons needs

[deep pagoda]

based on the video I watched (5 years old) the template that does the job well while being resistance to damage from resistance fighting is this:

[glacial steeple]

what is this

horrors

[wind canyon]

yeah uh

[glacial steeple]

you know you can speed up the game btw right

[wind canyon]

just one cav divsion is fine

[glacial steeple]

or left click

manpower matters, never ever be at 0

[deep pagoda]

yes I am aware, I put it on one because im typing with yall

[glacial steeple]

dont infinitely train troops because youll be in deficits

[glacial steeple]

spacebar to pause

[sand ember]

i didn't think he was using the actual historical colonial division term lol

[deep pagoda]

yes I know....

[sand ember]

like the divisions france starts with

[wind canyon]

but in witch case tho that garison template is fine

[glacial steeple]

click flag, occupied territories to set garrison law+template

[wind canyon]

its good for late game since you get more mp back

[glacial steeple]

lights are just bad for garrisons but its ok

[deep pagoda]

I did already, I just wanted to know if the effect stacks by having the same division in guard mode in the area, I see that it doesn't now.

[glacial steeple]

mediums end up being cheaper and harder

[wind canyon]

oh wait i didn't even see the tanks

[glacial steeple]

its just offmap

well im happy you research and use your political power and stuff like that

thats good

[deep pagoda]

the information I'm going off of is baed on this video: https://youtu.be/lnEY4xEKoqE?si=DSOSX9HGw4OwNGL-

As I understand it, there is fighting that your garissons are doing basically, and having tanks helps them out a lot even if it isn't super "needed" I am the USA so, lots of factories haha

[wind canyon]

yah its dependent on the resistance they face but yep usa industry go brrrrr

but just keep in mind in the early game generally just 1 cav div is good since its inexpensive to dsign and put into service plus do low priority guns

and then as the game goes on add extra cav if needed/want and same with adding mp support company

[deep pagoda]

If I set the division in the training screen to low priority, I assume that effects the priority of the garrisons themselves getting equipment?

[wind canyon]

oh thats not what i meant sorry should have been more clear

yes set garisons to high priority but within the template set their gear to reserve

[wind canyon]

like what ya did in this img

[deep pagoda]

no its fine I thought so, but you never know with these games if theres another hidden screen somewhere haha

[wind canyon]

fair lol

[deep pagoda]

Did I do this already or did I miss something

ohhhh I see

[wind canyon]

yeah u got it

dawg how the hell did i just

[deep pagoda]

I see what you meant haha

[wind canyon]

i meant to circle garrison priory 😭

[wind canyon]

anyways u get garisons now so

have fun good luck with your game altho by the looks of it its pretty much over

[deep pagoda]

yeah it's basically over soon, but I ran out of manpower doing double the garrisons basically without realizing it haha

[glacial steeple]

US industry in this game is like

really weak actually

[glacial steeple]

use tank only garrisons

and go on like local police

building up compliance gives manpower

you also just shouldnt infinitely queue up units ever as anyone

[pliant condor]

if there's anything

make collaboration governments

that's how you actually get something out of occupation

occupation shouldn't be a burden because why would you go to war otherwise

[wind canyon]

puppeting stuff

to get their resocurces

like the dutch east indies

[wind canyon]

yes but sometimes you gotta BELIEVE in the arsonal of Democracy vro

[pliant condor]

better not

annex with collabs

[wind canyon]

i mean yh for like big nations sure

but i aint gonna set up a 100% colab gov on like the uk or italy

[deep pagoda]

btw, how do I use a nuke?

[wind canyon]

bottom right raid option

make sure you have bombers and air dominance over where ya trying to nuke

[wind canyon]

and yeah 100% compliance is cool but that cost 300 pp and i still don't get full access to to mp and rescources altho i will give you that you would get more factories that way i think

[wind canyon]

also keep in mind of what the nuke will do the territory after the war

[deep pagoda]

I assume make it unusable, but it's just for fun at this point.

[wind canyon]

not unusable but it gives that area a debuf it slows repairs, construction, troop movement and weakens the defense and also fair

[deep pagoda]

I never found a use for this, high capacity electrical grid thing, whenever I click it, the whole USA is blue already so I guess I have it maxed out just by being me xD

[pliant condor]

this is exactly what you need to do

especially if you are not a big nation

like, if you play finland

annex soviet with full collab

infinite manpower glitch

[wind canyon]

how so?

[wind canyon]

wait are u saying like

train up a bunch of divs using their man power

anex then dismantle?

[wind canyon]

sir?

[pliant condor]

annex

with

full

collab

[wind canyon]

right cz of the 100% compliance right?

[pliant condor]

yes

it's significantly more than the manpower needed for occupation

and

[austere roost]

yeah iirc usa's in game capacity is like a quarter of its irl ic

[wind canyon]

but my concern is that garrisons are still needed, well hang on ig i need to do some in game test but thanks for opening my eyes to this new possibility

[pliant condor]

occupation should also be a good thing

because otherwise why would you go to war

[humble flare]

i need help fightin a war rn

[wind canyon]

resources but genneraly in my nations they already have plenty of space

so i don't need to build in conqued lands

[wind canyon]

wsp bro

[humble flare]

idk what to do

[visual yacht]

Are you guys talking about creating a collab government (puppet) or creating a collab government (spies) and keeping the land

[wind canyon]

right well for one your over stacking your units and some of them are out of supply

how is the air force?

is it doing CAS missions?

[humble flare]

idk

[deep pagoda]

Why is the reliability on this tank have a red down arrow? I thought having more of it was a good thing?

[inland frost]

Make it so your general/field marshal executes plans carefully (one arrow)

[humble flare]

wdym 1

[inland frost]

So they dont all stack on each other and will only go if theres supply

[visual yacht]

A component you added is reducing its reliability

[wind canyon]

okay well if possible build an aiport closer, your lacking fighers so your just sending in your planes to die essentialy even if their air forceis is small

[humble flare]

ok

[visual yacht]

The up and down arrows indicate the change int he design compared to what it was before

[deep pagoda]

ok, so if the percentage is above 100 percent is that okay too?

[visual yacht]

Idk if being above 100 has an additional benefit, but its a waste of stats, you can put more aggressive components on or up the engine

I usually build to be >80ish

[inland frost]

this button

[deep pagoda]

I figured but I am asking because it says, "reliability has no effect above 100% so I assume that's saying it doesn't get better than 100

[visual yacht]

Thats what i assume yeah

[humble flare]

ok

[visual yacht]

I play SP though not comp MP, meta might be different over in tryhard land

[inland frost]

just move troops out of the area you probably only need like 4 or 5 per tile

you dont have enough supply

[humble flare]

i lost the war the country basically got itself back

[inland frost]

you playing ironman?

[humble flare]

ye

ill just restart

likea different country

i only have 20 hrs btw im tryna learn everything

[inland frost]

yeah just dont put that many troops on a few tiles, they were all out of supply and taking attrition

and you can build a supply hub and take the decision to make it construct faster as well

[inland frost]

yeah thats totally fine

[humble flare]

is spain good to learn war

[inland frost]

it's one of the more difficult nations cause all the debuffs but you get into a civil war early. depends what you want

[humble flare]

YO

I let them push back got more supplies then split my troops and started like encircling

[inland frost]

yea, makes sense

[humble flare]

i thought i was doomed

but then

we PREVALED

yeah u right about the tile thing

you gotta split

[pliant condor]

second one

don't do the first thing

it's worse than occupying

[deep pagoda]

I own most of the planet but china's score is higher than mine wtf???

[wind canyon]

tbf on the chinese they have like an inf amount of man power so prob beat u there cz they just had divisons

[deep pagoda]

So I should kill China before Russia next game, noted

[wind canyon]

i mean if you wanna? but fighting in china sucks

[deep pagoda]

Shouldn't be any more or less difficult than any other country, I usually control Japan entirely by that point for a place to attack from anyways. Train marines with jungle training and I'd be good I assume

[wind canyon]

yeah its just they have no supplies and most places you will be fighting in moutians

[deep pagoda]

eh, as the US I can build the supply points if needed. It would only be a matter of when not if

[wind canyon]

fair it just takes ages

[vernal spruce]

if i declare war on yugoslavia which is guaranteed by romania which is guaranteed by france will i end up in war with france

[keen hemlock]

no

[humble flare]

Bro i was doing that thing where you use Brazil and conquer like all of south America, but then as i started winning i look behind and france and UK both invaded me, how do i stop from randomly being invaded

[keen hemlock]

port guards

[royal wolf]

Anyone have advice on how to play British Raj? I played it tonight but got beaten by the brits

[vital plinth]

I struggle to cover big areas both in Middle east and Egypt and Africa as Iran with the naval invasions should I concede some ground ? I need more man power as Iran

Its 1942 atm so still building up my airforce form ground up

And what template should I use for port guards and troops that can push back naval invasions

[obsidian badger]

what are the requirements for ai nations to flip ideology without player intervention

they need the political advisor correct?

what makes the ai randomly select it

because sometimes a nation would flip an ideology i dont want

and sometimes a nation can have 90% support and not do shit

[twin kayak]

somebady ?

[glacial steeple]

hiii

just woke up

there should be a site to simulate hoi saves so i dont have to load the game

[neat widget]

full mech divisions are generally not needed in singleplayer, but should you want a defensive mech template you can have like 19 mech in a division + radio + logi + engineers

[vital plinth]

How good is truck division for defense if you lack man power ?

[twin kayak]

what does that mean ?

[neat widget]

does not add stats like mech does

the reason why mech is used is due to their high defense stat (plus they have commensurate hardness to boot)

[vital plinth]

Ah ok how should I make my template for defending the coast lands In Egypt and and Africa British naval invade me everywhere and I have low man power as Iran because I’m still using my political power to core lands slowly to get man power and they have awsome focus for more man power 5% more but it’s gonna take a year I’m in 1942

I’m at the edge of Lagos in Africa it has 25 mio people and it says 100% compliance on the stat Iran focus that I have lets me get 2,5% more non core man power
So if I take Lagos do I get that 100% compliance or do I have to start from scratch?

A little long text sorry if it’s confusing

[obsidian badger]

Motorized are bad overall

Their only positive is their speed

so only use them to quickly fill frontline gaps or to do overruns and encirclements

[vital plinth]

So just for taking tiles ?

[twin kayak]

?

[errant chasm]

<@&846894118219022336>

[glacial steeple]

i dont wanna start up hoi :(

[twin kayak]

you're not the only mod/helper in this discord anyway 🤷‍♂️

I'm just waiting for someone

[glacial steeple]

false....

theres no one else...

[twin kayak]

(and the helpers aren't online)

I see you like 95% of the time

what are they doing ?

[gilded plover]

Stuff

[twin kayak]

it's not an insult, I just see casey way more than the others

[gilded plover]

Well

I am more in off topic

[glacial steeple]

having lives XD

besides flowi

also im a helper

[twin kayak]

so it's like 1 mod/channel(s)

[gilded plover]

[glacial steeple]

nah people just are online at different times/focus on different stuff

[gilded plover]

I have a life

[glacial steeple]

since its a lot to mod all channels

but like its done

sometimes

[errant chasm]

Hi casey

[obsidian comet]

Imma ask this straight after 1k hours my ass still dosent know how much consumer goods I have so where do I see an exact number

[twin kayak]

construction tab, on the top, you'll have something that says factories to consumer goods: (x amount) if you hover on top of that, you should see the percentages and where they come from

[glacial steeple]

helloo how are you

[errant chasm]

Good

Heard there will be a new czech dlc soon

[glacial steeple]

fake news

im ending the dlc

[cold bloom]

Yes~ Czechoslovak

[gilded plover]

Double no life

[glacial steeple]

well yeah its public knowledge

[gilded plover]

While me

The great flowi

Have a Life

A good one tbh

[gleaming grove]

Is this still up-to-date?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1766m1p/combat_width_meta_after_aat_improved_calculation/

[dusty sandal]

yup

although penalities were reduced when over combat width

[hoary glen]

If you don't want to bother with combat width just do 32w for everything

[dusty sandal]

it only changes the fact that for attack divisions, 38 and 39 width are now viable, with 38w being better overhaul than 36w

in sp 32-33w is good enough as a "battleplan everywhere" combat width

[serene karma]

Busy doing irl stuff

Casey is more free ig

[twin kayak]

hoi4>irl stuff

set your priorities

:)

[glacial steeple]

too much free time 💔

[obsidian badger]

https://tenor.com/view/shower-soap-friendly-reminder-you-stink-gif-15157732979346099491

[glacial steeple]

ty :3

[deft cypress]

how to fix my dlcs not being verified

[glacial steeple]

wait/contact steam

[deft cypress]

alr

[wise dew]

which is easier for forming roman empire fascist or monarchia d'italia

[left glacier]

Would recommend that we pin this video for future reference for rolling back saves @glacial steeple

https://youtu.be/6z-0byYbLaY?si=jDqWvXs7LTqJXCbF

[glacial steeple]

dont you have pin perms?

[left glacier]

Not to my knowledge

Let me check

[left glacier]

[errant chasm]

You should pin some ships builds. That would be helpful. Anyways I might make a battleship build based off that SH build from RB later tonight.

[obsidian badger]

how often do ai flip ideologies naturally

or undergo civil war

without player intervention

[errant chasm]

Not very often in historical

As most of the time focuses do the heavy lifting

Ahistorical idk but I assume the focuses do the heavy lifting there.

[wise dew]

which is easier for forming roman empire fascist or monarchia d'italia

[glacial steeple]

its usually focus locked now :(((

[dawn epoch]

You ain’t nothing but a hound doga

crying all the time

[keen hemlock]

Yeah, I think I’ve only flipped using an advisor as Romania

[light knoll]

doesn't really matter but democratic king and the pope are the best paths

democratic king gets to also form the EU and the pope gets insane compliance bonuses

[languid jacinth]

Hi, i watched a lot of tutorials how to play poland and have someone some tricks after latest updates because i cant broke germany until russia join the war

[obsidian merlin]

Where can I get the game's sound effects?

[hoary glen]

Gun2, Support AA and Arty should do the trick

[hoary glen]

SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Hearts of Iron IV\sound

[uncut narwhal]

just play bermontian poland

[wise dew]

do i have to make the pope the leader

[tulip lark]

wtf am i supposed to do

[light knoll]

its one of the strongest paths

it unlocks a secret tree

[fathom thistle]

polish-lit commonwealth, I managed to get 1 and half army to 36w inf, then I had 3rd army on Slovakian line only 8 divs. They will push your south so your goal is to wipe out konigsberg asap so your 2nd army can join the main frontline

[cosmic rock]

yo guyss

i cant see any other country div

[fathom thistle]

(you should be able to make another 36w full army with inf)

[cosmic rock]

not even my allies

[wanton vale]

bottom right you likely have a button pushed

[cosmic rock]

oh thank you

its working again

[wanton vale]

"M" or "W" might fix it too

ah

[wanton vale]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-that's-excellent-gill-engvid-that's-perfect-learn-english-with-gill-gif-8228805259385795389

[twin kayak]

does a fighter bomber like this work ?

[uncut narwhal]

yea its better to just use two seperated designs tho usually

[twin kayak]

is there a reason to do a mix ? I am a bit resource limited and am wondering if it would be a good idead to do an hybrid until I have more resources to upgrade

[uncut narwhal]

not really

[static turret]

nah its better to focus

[keen hemlock]

Use the module that reduces the resources you need to build the model

I forgot what it’s called

[obsidian badger]

i mean there are a few, at least that i do

for naval bombers u can usually do guns+torpedo

and for fighters, if u use cannons, cannons give pretty good ground attack that never gets used usually because fighters cant be on cas

adding bomb locks allow the cannon cas to actually be used

outside of that theres no real benefit except maybe adding recon camera if u have a free slot

[wise dew]

how do i make the pope the leader

[glacial steeple]

oh btw phoenix look at this hack if you ever need help

<@&916727971820240976> show up to help this guy

[light knoll]

you have a focus to strengthen the papacy on the monarchist path
you do that, and then have the balance of power more than 60% in favor of the pope

[dusty sandal]

it's worse than a specialized plane

for CAS it's especially bad

for fighters, in singleplayer it can work or it can be used to exploit the CASfighter strat where you use logistrike mission to get stupid stat buffs from air support mission efficiency

[wise dew]

how do i do that

i made all the decisions that increase papal power and its at 60% nothing happened

[light knoll]

maybe it needs more idr the exact number

[wise dew]

i cant bring it up anymore tho

[wise dew]

do the decisions refresh after awhile

i have no more papal strengthening decisions

[light knoll]

yea

[wise dew]

okay this what my thing looks like rn

[glacial steeple]

after 365 days

for 10% iirc

[north quail]

i keep seeing these youtubers put these sword icons tf is this

[dawn epoch]

YOU CAN CHANGE THE ALANCE OF POWER??!

HOW

how do you do this

WILL THE UK ATTACK YOU IF YOU CHANGE THE BALANCE OF POWER??!!!!?!!

[verbal venture]

its used in multyplayer to signal other players but i think is only visual for explaining better

[north quail]

thank youu

❤️

[wise dew]

What

[dawn epoch]

balance

how do you open that

[wise dew]

Yes

[dawn epoch]

is it a dlc?

[wise dew]

It’s on the government tab with your leader’s portrait

[dawn epoch]

hmmm

didn’t notice at all

[wise dew]

You just click on the balance of power thing

[dawn epoch]

Do I need a dlc?

[wise dew]

Did you see it

Idk

I have them all

But I don’t see why bop would exist if you couldn’t change it

[dawn epoch]

the British must maintain the balance of power by turning Africa into a international zone

[glacial steeple]

its a ping

[royal wolf]

Any tips on how to play communist India?

[modern merlin]

turn on hoi4

[gleaming grove]

Im boosting fascism in the US. Will the allies kick them/leave them if they elect fascist in the upcomming election?

Do you think a war against the US is militarily possible or did i miss my timing? They are also allied with pretty much every superpower except for russia
Cause i dont think i can beat them with military

LOL

lol lol

Is there something i can do to make them more positive to join my faction?

[visual zodiac]

It's likely the ideology clashing

could try boosting relations

[loud skiff]

Does anybody know how to fix when u alt tab in full screen it goes black for a few seconds

[gleaming grove]

The Free AE is fascist. The civil war started because i made america fascist. So in theory they should be happy with me

i dont know what to do. I feel like thats my only chance to enter the US, but at the same time if im siding with the loser (which atm looks like the fascist rebells) i feel like the US+allies will just overrun me

[wind canyon]

No it won’t the us will stay in the allies till the end of the war but you could try to start a coup it may distract them for a minute

[wind canyon]

Yeah uh try this start another coup then attack as the civil war starts

[astral anchor]

How is the entente projecting naval dominance

[glacial steeple]

they can have docking rights too btw

also you have 0 fuel so you should fix that

[keen hemlock]

Prolly from Germany

[astral anchor]

i just checked its the netherlands

[keen hemlock]

Or any other reichspakt country

[dusty sandal]

don't use fullscreen resolution

[glacial steeple]

yeah

[astral anchor]

not even in a faction theyre doing it for the love of the game

[astral anchor]

ive been constructing refineries but its not making much of a difference and i obviously cant import because of the entente

[gleaming grove]

civil war is already going on

[glacial steeple]

day fly planes

dont use navy unless you need to naval invade

use navs against subs + fighters to detect

[astral anchor]

alr thanks

finally have fuel

if im at war and someone is fighting along side me in a faction do i automatically get docking rights from them

[obsidian badger]

well theres nothing u can probably do. Declare on the other civil war faction to get mutual war, improve relations, and use diplomatic pressure and see

-123 is a lot tho

[keen hemlock]

Yes

If ur in a faction you get all access

[half glade]

why are these not building

okay its a weird thing with my puppets not existing anymore

[keen hemlock]

If you annex a puppet you have to cancel the building iirc

I was building nothing in the East Indies for like 3 months once

[obsidian badger]

yeah it glitches and freezes

it takes up your civs indefinitely

[half glade]

yeah lol i fixed it

[obsidian badger]

i had infea queued in australia for 3 yrs once

infra

[half glade]

why cant i deploy airwings?

i have 6k CAS in stockpile lol

[obsidian badger]

Try deploying from a airport in japan

[plain mason]

are they your ally or do you just have mil access

otherwise just try from another airport

one in japan does the trick

[obsidian badger]

can i trigger resistance revolts in faction members, hog war score, and then annex the revolt myself to steal land

Oh wait no

i can do it with nations i dont wanna all out war with tho

[random rover]

I have a stupid question but ill ask it anyway. When I equip a land unit with AAA and/or AA, does it target enemy planes that are in the same region automatically? Or just when enemy air engages the unit directly?

[obsidian badger]

engaged

[random rover]

thank you!

[buoyant cargo]

Guys, how to balance between reliability and breakthrough?

[royal wolf]

I tried once already.

[buoyant cargo]

Like if I make tank divisions to attack how much reliability should I have in my tank design?

[gleaming grove]

How the hell you guys keep an overview on situations like this?

[obsidian badger]

people clown on reliability
reliability just means how much attrition guts you

[wind canyon]

No I’m saying try and start another one

[obsidian badger]

if u dont fight in shitty areas then reliability doesnt matter

[rain hawk]

a game that costs 50 usd bs

[wind canyon]

That way the Americans will have to fight you and them selves witch may help you if your gonna keep trying to go for u

[obsidian badger]

but like a bunch of areas matter that are shitty

like half the ussr

so depends where u intend to fight

[buoyant cargo]

Hmm, I saw people lose so many tanks not by combat but attrition. And at this point I decided to focus on soft attack and reliability and less breakthrough but I don't know what stats are good for reliability?

My average is 65-55 for the tank design

Is it fine to do less?

[gleaming grove]

its looking pretty good so far

[obsidian badger]

if u plan to fight in the middle of fucberia then aim for 80+ avg in division template

Reliability is dependent on avg of all battalions in a div

If u have low reliability try getting torsion bar i think easy maintenance and wet ammo storage

U can also just have less tanks and more mech in ur div

[plain mason]

0% if you're fighting only in plains and forests

consider having more only if you're fighting in deserts, low supply zones, marshes, mountains, etc

those terrains are usually avoidable tho

reliability only affects attrition so if you're on a high supply zone with plains or forests you're good

[obsidian badger]

Barb

[plain mason]

you can avoid marshes on sovs p easily

go around them and pocket them

[obsidian badger]

Even i don’t memorize where marshes are

[plain mason]

i do

they're around belarus region

and that's basically only where they are

[obsidian badger]

and if u dont have collab u still need to push to urals

[plain mason]

tanks will do nothing in urals regardless, don't go in sovs without collabs

just rush supply hubs to not run out of supply

after you literally can't not have bad supply push with inf and cas since you're supposed to have shredded the soviet army to a thin line by then

[obsidian badger]

As germany yeah, but sometimes ur playing a minor

[plain mason]

then you probably shouldnt be doing tanks

[obsidian badger]

Ive had hungarian afrika and barb corps before

[plain mason]

if playing as a minor, air + special forces

even as a major air + special forces is technically better because of ic efficiency

[obsidian badger]

meh, panzer cool

[plain mason]

cool but only optimal as germany with the right collabs and giga eco

[obsidian badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589311099674034176/1469398373269246025/image.png?ex=69e91260&is=69e7c0e0&hm=be8e7198e06ff92c8c2423f15d1ed4f4192976ccae2501325c6e0ce6909ec045&

[carmine thunder]

This is my 3rd run trying to hold against sheep ai as ussr but I just cant seem to get close.. I got war economy by spanish civil war, rushed political paranoia, five year plan down to industrial modernisation, civs till late 1937, collabs on baltics for factories

[glacial steeple]

why 17K artillery

you are throwing your IC into the trashbin

normal tanks instead of spgs/tds is also really bad

honestly your production just seems really weird

factory count still seems kind of low? but mostly ok ig

you should trade less

go down trade law

so you like build more

youve been trading tons of civs away i think

[carmine thunder]

I guess I just did it based on deficit during the time, I dont really know how its going to scale

[glacial steeple]

bro

look at your units

you have a certain ratio of equipment in them

thats what you want to produce

if you want to fix a deficit you produce like a few factories over the ratio

but not like many

also you are in a deficit of steel somehow as the ussr

theres also no point changing tank chassis outside HHC

[astral anchor]

if im japan and im gonna fight china soon are these base divisions any good? im new to hoi4

[carmine thunder]

is it worth it to skip army focuses for more industry buffs

[glacial steeple]

depends on when

you want army by war

you dont need it like before war

doesnt help you scale

[wind canyon]

Ah fair enough I thought they were gonna be stronger

Whats the plan to reach Europe tho?

[carmine thunder]

btw before german occupation I had 196 mils and 145 civs

but besides skipping army focuses I dont see a way to get more industry by war

[errant chasm]

@glacial steeple Rate my 1940 battleship design I made. It's not meta but I based off the RB Super heavy Battleship.

[gleaming grove]

well they kinda reached me and the american rebells capitulated so im completely done

[glacial steeple]

you can always copy ai if youre below ai skill level /nm

[glacial steeple]

hi

[gleaming grove]

its gg

[errant chasm]

I also made a 1936 battleship design.

[wind canyon]

Dam

[gleaming grove]

it was super lategame anyways and i completed all researches and everything. Only hope for the game to stay interesting was beating the US

the civil war was my opener, but pretty much the whole world fought on their side

[keen hemlock]

on your bbs

[gleaming grove]

40mil manpower

[keen hemlock]

exactly what stats do you want

[errant chasm]

who?

[keen hemlock]

for battleships

ive always been told not to build them

[errant chasm]

oh I just wanted to show casey a fun design I made based off the SHBB from Red Baron. Nah these designs aren't meta at all, but as something I could use if I wanted to build one

[keen hemlock]

ah

[errant chasm]

I have some actual designs if you want

[glacial steeple]

why ask me to rate it i havent played hoi in like ages

(maybe a week)

[errant chasm]

lmao

[glacial steeple]

its a ship

it attacks i think

[keen hemlock]

yes plz

[glacial steeple]

id use a bomber against it but provided your enemy has no bomber

its fine

[keen hemlock]

like i actually wanna beat the uk navy as italy

[glacial steeple]

in rb they use it for shore attack on d day mostly

which you dont need in sp

but its a ship

it will hit things

[errant chasm]

Maybe I'll share it with Red Baron or one of the helpers and see how they would react lol

[glacial steeple]

helpers are no smarter than you or me

[errant chasm]

mostly you use planes but I can send you some actual ship designs

[glacial steeple]

/lh

[errant chasm]

What are the actual qualifications to be a helper lol

[keen hemlock]

ngl i find it boring

like i like the stuff they are doing with those marine commando raids for taog

[glacial steeple]

apply, be helpful, dont be mean

and chak has to think youre a good fit

[jovial wigeon]

how can I level up doctrine to get -0.3 combat width before the war?

[errant chasm]

here you go optionally you may want to add aa, fire control system and use dual purpose batteries for some of the builds

[keen hemlock]

okay another question

which mio is it for the usa that does the heavy fighters

[errant chasm]

lockheed or North American Aviation according to the wiki

I think North American Aviation is prefered

[gleaming grove]

Ok so after i played my first really big war i have some questions:

1. How do you prevent naval invasions if you dont have naval supperiority when you have a very large territory with a major coastline? Is it enough to have a small unit on defending harbors, or do you need to defend all coastlines?
2. How do you move your units during war when the frontline is very dynamic? Do you just draw a very deep attack line and let them auto it? Cause that rarely encircles the enemys.
   Or do you move them all manually?
   Or do you assign them with a deep frontattack and than manually take some units for encirclement? If yes do you unasign them or do you just use them manually and after they fullfilled their manual task they go back to their previous task (the deep frontattack)
3. Kinda unrelated: Can you pressure or manipulate an alliance to kick a certain country?

[visual zodiac]

1. AI tend to literally invade anything they can land on, though they normally focus on/around ports, having meh units defending the coastline is the best route though if thats too much, drawing a fallback line covering the port and next to it should be ok
2. The typical strategy is to have your main frontline infantry (Fillers) on 1 frontline, then have your main attacking force on another where you micro and cause breakthroughs and encirclements, or moving to defend weaker areas or areas under assault. These better units are typically manually micro'd
3. I'm not 100% certain on this answer but I'm pretty sure no

@gleaming grove pinging for visibility

[neat widget]

that'd be right

north american aviation is preferred

[errant chasm]

hi liv

[gleaming grove]

Thanks

1. It took alone like 10 units to defend cuba and Haiti/DomRep. I couldve never have enough smaller units to also do Ecuador, Peru, Chille, Argentina and MiddleAmerica+Mexico. That wouldve been like what 60-80 divisions for coast alone.
   About the fallback line: Do you just draw fallback lines around every port with 1 army of 24 divisions? And they automatically go there if needed, or do you actually assign like 2-3 divs to each fallback line around a harbor?

2. Doesnt have to be now since im going to bed anyways, but could you post a picture on how that looks ingame? Just tag me ill check it out when i wake up.

3. Kk, i thought so, unfortunate so lategame you always fight the whole world basically when everyone is at peace after WW2 and either all allied or all axis survived

[visual zodiac]

If you want towards the weekend I should have some time if you want us to go through this

might be easier

[gleaming grove]

when are you usually one, cause im CET

[visual zodiac]

I'm BST (UK)

Weekend I'm normally on late

[gleaming grove]

alright, if i got time and i remember ill tag you or dm you

[keen hemlock]

how many marine commandos do you need for the unit to be able to get out of any tile?

[jovial wigeon]

how can I level up doctrine before the war?

[neat igloo]

How does the AI determine where to put specific units in a frontline? I have, say, a dedicated anti tank unit set to a front line. Is there any way to get that anti tank unit to consistently move to face off to armour (or even to stay where I put it)?

[visual yacht]

Exercise a fully trained division that has appropriate battalions attached

You can see the batallion requirements by hovering over the mastery in the doctrine tree

[zealous pond]

how can i even invade the uk man

they deadass cant die

[modern merlin]

turn off ironman

[tribal orchid]

For some reason I still can't claim the mandate of heaven, what am I missing?

[feral vector]

anyone able to help me

i did smth bad

[lyric agate]

anyone wanna play?

[left mica]

anyone wanna ?

[obsidian badger]

anyone ?

[unique idol]

anyone know whats the best way to invade romania without a naval invasion (turkey shut the straight and france is guaranteeing them, not sure i wanna fight that yet). i'm playing italy and have both yugoslavia and bulgaria on my side, but i just cannot breach their defences

[red mesa]

too few divisions
tank divs have no equipment
attacking the whole line with inf across a major river

what did you expect

[unique idol]

too few divisions - fair enough
tanks have no equipment - they're should only be missing the logistics support i just added to them
attacking with whole line - yea i know you shouldn't do this, and i'm not, i just didn't really know how else to show the struggling to push, so i just hit the arrow and took the screenshot

how many divisions should i have on?

[red mesa]

more than the romanians have in total, which is usually somewhere around 40

Concentrate your best pushing units on the coast and push there first to extend their lines and create weak points on the river

forget pushing transylvania until you have bucharest

use your air force

[unique idol]

already CASing boss

[red mesa]

consider upgrading the railways in your puppets for the logistics

[unique idol]

ok, thanks

[red mesa]

I probably shouldn't ask what those tank divs are made of

[unique idol]

35 width, mix of motorized and light tanks ( i haven't got to mediums yet for reasons i don't even know). organisation of about 40, logistics company and support AA

tanks are built for as much soft attack as i could get on at the time

though i only recently grabbed the DLCs so i'm not great at designing

[red mesa]

drop it to 32-36 width, depending on what you can afford try to get motor or LT recon in there too, hospitals are good for retaining veterancy

oh nvm

thought you put 40w

[austere roost]

retaining veterancy doesn't matter on the first day of war

[unique idol]

i did, i thought it was 40 but apparently its 35

[austere roost]

you might want to put in flame tanks, they're much more important than logistics

[red mesa]

matters for later if they're committing to using tanks as Italy

[unique idol]

yea i'm going straight for them as soon as the project is done

[red mesa]

since italian tanks suck bawls

[austere roost]

flame tanks and light tank recon give your armor divisions much more stats esp with self propelled support and streamline deployment

[austere roost]

he's having trouble breaking through romania's river

[red mesa]

I'm trying not to be quite that cynical

[unique idol]

i'm having trouble breaking through romania in general 😭

[austere roost]

also are you having green air?

but just in general, 24 inf divisions ain't enough for romania's borders. You need 48 of them at least.

[unique idol]

yea i've dragged in an extra army already

[unique idol]

yep

[austere roost]

also what I don't get is that you can't see romanian units, is that a bug?

[unique idol]

i'm not sure, i assumed it was an intel thing but i have 60% army intel, and i could see greece's units fine even though i forgot to stick down an operative

[left mica]

dont push with your line infantry

they suck at attacking

[austere roost]

If you don't have enough Intel you just see a question mark

[unique idol]

i've noticed it a few times, i couldn't see china's units when i was storming through as japan yesterday

[left mica]

oh and get rid of line artillery

[left mica]

theres an option that lets you toggle divisions

check in the bottom right corner

[unique idol]

oh my god i just found it

im such an idiot

yea that makes more sense

[austere roost]

I mean you can easily take out Romania as ussr with 72 base info units as long as you have green air in 1937

[unique idol]

its currently 1939, i'm kind of slow

yea i've breached their line now, thanks for all help involved

[left mica]

got cas?

make some

[unique idol]

plenty

[left mica]

make 32 width mountaineer + marine

8 mountaineer 8 marine battalions

and the correct support companies

(check pinned)

go down mountaineer and marine doctrines

pick holding the line for mountaineer cw reduction

ez

i should play another italy game

[gloomy vector]

is it worth making mech/amtracs in sp

or do you just use inf/sf with tanks

[left mica]

of course, just because you play sp doesnt mean you have to restrict yourself

"you dont have to do mech in sp" is horrible advice

if anything you have a lot more leeway in what you design

[austere roost]

You'll need to figure out rubber, oil and whether you want to spend 100 XP to give +5 production costs. If you can answer these questions then you can pick the 1940 mech technology

[foggy steppe]

shouldi annex or puppet? since if i annex them then uk will capture africa anyway

[neat widget]

naval bombers and building a navy

[primal silo]

So, Is there any way to get some questions answered from PDX?
I have tried in multiple places and have a post that has been up and unanswered for several weeks in the official forums.

[minor wagon]

I am having great issues with producing support equipment as a minor, and I started to wonder

Do I really need engineers?

Or shall I make better strategies to have enough factories dedicated to it?

[sand ember]

No not really

[primal silo]

they are nice if you can afford them but I rate them lower than support arty

[minor wagon]

They are what always consume my factories that I could be giving to weapons and I then end up having scarsity on everything since the sup equ is so expensive

What does engineers really do apart from the movement bonus?

I know they help with enthrenchment but I'd like to know exactly all of their upsides

[minor wagon]

I actually end up having not enough arty cause of the support equipment IC

Lol

I am aware that's what gets me

[inner sparrow]

let me guess ur also using line arty?

bc that is a way bigger ic waste compared to engi

if u do

[minor wagon]

I only focus on producing arty after the support equipment has at least 5 factories to it

Which then I only give 2 or 3 factories to arty

[inner sparrow]

support eq is always important bc support companies are just op if u use the right ones

[minor wagon]

I only play single player by the way

[inner sparrow]

engi is alright tho, not too op

but good to have

[inner sparrow]

yes for sp

[minor wagon]

I always thought that engies were the meta for any division lol

[inner sparrow]

for attacking divs assault engi are better

[minor wagon]

I focused too many on doing navy strategies and templates I forgot about the actual armies

[primal silo]

why?
If my template is just inf with 1 support arty 1 engi, I keep roughly 4/1/1 - 5/1/1 ratio in factories and adjust as needed.

[minor wagon]

I like to make a stock before starting to train more divisions

But you know what

I should first have at least 1 factory on everything before focusing on anything else because of the adjustment time

[minor wagon]

What else are they good for?

[inner sparrow]

anything

they give insane terrain bonuses

esp urban

[minor wagon]

They increase entrenchment but, what does it do

[inner sparrow]

which one

assault engi or normal engi

[primal silo]

buffs attack and defense of entrenched units (when defending)

[inner sparrow]

normal engi also gives terrain bonuses but way less

[minor wagon]

Is it worth sacrifing gun production for the defense bonus?

[inner sparrow]

assault engi gives u same things just more terrain bonuses and some other stats

[primal silo]

never, guns are what gives most of the defence to infantry (as well as most other stats)

[minor wagon]

Oh!

I was giving shovels to my armies use once their sticks and stones break

[visual yacht]

How does strength and specific equipment work? If i add engi but have 0 support equipment, that will tank my divisions strength by x% but will my soft attack from my inf equipment still give 100% stats?

[primal silo]

Basically these stats are determined by the sum (or average for amor piercing and reliability) of the stats of all the equipment used by the unit, then modified by some % modifiers

So things giving you % modifiers (like engineers with entrenchment and terrain bonuses) are good, but only if your base stats are decent

[minor wagon]

Oooh

They will be not

[inner sparrow]

just don’t produce support equipment but still put support companies that need support eq in the division and disable support equipment in your division tab

ur still gonna get most of the bonuses btw

[minor wagon]

Interesting, good to know!

[inner sparrow]

and all doctrine bonuses on support eq

[minor wagon]

I hate how minors have basically 0 manpower at the start

Should I use my pp to increase it as soon as possible?

[glacial steeple]

@inner sparrow hi!

[minor wagon]

I usually pick the construction bonuses council guy first

[sand ember]

No that’s not really a good pp pick, more important first things to spend it on

like advisors and economy law and army xp guy

[minor wagon]

Good to know, thanks

I forgot that the doctrine system got changed

[primal silo]

depends how soon you plan to go to war. Havign units 3 years before a war is not that useful.

[minor wagon]

Oh yeah I dont really pick that

I wanna do historical finland

Finnish him achievment

I did No one gets to the Finnish Line and mastered defense as Finland

[primal silo]

My priority if war is not anytime soon is generally:

• Advisors that buff PP
• Chief of Army
• Worker conditions
• 2x Advisors that buff economy and industrial concern
• Chief of Air
• Chief of Navy if doing navy
• Theorist

[sand ember]

where economy law

[minor wagon]

Navy rocks! But- Finland can't really afford one

[primal silo]

Depends on the nation, Top priority after PP boosting guy in general but I hate wasting PP on intermediate steps, so if playing a nation that can go to war economy before WW2 I wait until I can do that, otherwise I skip early mob and go directly for partial when I can (until war starts).

Also somwhere in there ther's PP for attache

[signal fern]

Wait until you hear about naval bombers

[minor wagon]

Ehehehe

[inner sparrow]

hey

[flint comet]

What is your thoughts on the dlc No compromise No surrender? I dont know If i should by it

[primal silo]

3.6/5 not great, not terrible

Japan focus tree is a significant improvement on what was there before

[signal fern]

Is it worth using cheap mediums on garrison?

[uncut narwhal]

its pinned

[signal fern]

Oh alr thx

[primal silo]

TBH not really unless you plan to garrison a MASSIVE amount of land

the initiqal investment is massive

[glacial steeple]

its not

its literally less than it would be with guns

[serene karma]

[glacial steeple]

in terms of factories used on it

[serene karma]

What a reference

[glacial steeple]

you do need mp support tho

[primal silo]

no?? Can't check right now cause I'm in a modded game, but I believe you get much better MP/suppression but significantly worse IC/suppression, the advantage is the hardness saving you a lot of MP/IC losses in the long run

[glacial steeple]

its both afaik

the tanks are really cheap

its not with lights

not with heavies

but mediums are better

[primal silo]

Did a quick test, and it's almost triple IC/suppression (IW medium, light 1M turret with machinegun, cheaper armor type)

Stats might be slightly different because of mods but I doubt it's by a factor of 3x

[glacial steeple]

is your div like max sized

if its 1 tank then yeah its gonna cost a lot

it uses less equipment when its larger

for both

[primal silo]

yes. The cheap-ass medium is 4.80 IC, a full div is 1250 tanks = 6K IC (plus cost for MP)

[glacial steeple]

thats just div design

it uses less of the units when garrisoning

like its a bit weird to explain

higher suppression + less average supports means you use less divs per state

[primal silo]

Yes, with lategame MP I get 100 suppression, to that is ~60 IC/suppression

[glacial steeple]

and you lose significantly less also

especially now with spirit of defiance

[primal silo]

Meanwhile my infantry are at ~24 IC / suppression (I assume cav would be lower but cannot test that)

[primal silo]

I am fully aware

Still about 3x IC/suppression initial investment, which can be huge

And that's without considering you probably have max efficiency on guns but need to build it up on cheapo suppression mediums

so It's a good template only if
A) manpower is your primary concern and not IC
or B) you are willing to sacrifice a very large IC hit for potential IC+MP savings thanks to hardness that will take many years to come to fruition (plus the immediate MP saving from above)

[glacial steeple]

it will save a lottt

you take literally like what is it 80% hardness?

80% would be 80% less losses

since resistance only deals soft attack FYI

[primal silo]

I know

[primal silo]

Which means you lose 20% as much of that template which cost 3x as much, so your actual IC losses are 60% of the non-armored one

[glacial steeple]

and 30% for manpower since it uses half

tho i dont remember if resistance uses linear calculations for garrisons needed

[primal silo]

so overall you achieve IC savings AFTER you lost your entire garrison contingent 5 times over

[glacial steeple]

ill ask the person who did testing on this later

[primal silo]

As I said, it has its uses (it's actually quite good at saving MP), but it's not a blanket thing to recomend

[glacial steeple]

have you seen the people here

ive seen people lose 3-4 million men a year

to garrisons and resistance

[primal silo]

If someone is losing 3-4M a year and you suggest that tempalte they will end up losing more, because there is no way the have the IC to fill up all that garrisons unless they are playing USA

[glacial steeple]

usually germany which has the IC for sure

usa is like broke

poor major

[primal silo]

Germany is one of the nation where the armored garrison makes sense, but again you need to know what you are doing otherwise you will end up with underequipped garrisons, which leads to resistance spinking, which death spirals into requiring more garrisons you cannot equip

[glacial steeple]

IDK i think tank garrisons are universally the best now with the crazy resistance everywhere

[primal silo]

So suggesting it to ppl losing 4-5M MP because they can't handle garrison ins counterproductive imho

[glacial steeple]

theyll lose less and spiral less

gun garrisons are very prone to spiralling and leaving ground divs unequipped

IMO anyway

[primal silo]

It is true when you have the full amount of tanks needed for armoed garrison to begin with, but if you start with very unequipped garrisons things will go out of control fast

[glacial steeple]

it gets out of control less fast/gets into control easier compared to gun garrisons

because you just lose less

thats how i see it

[primal silo]

With guns at least you can delete units to stop a death spiral and get resistance back in check, with tanks you need careful planning since you cannot just magic them out

[glacial steeple]

that wont happen

maybe a decent player might but it wont happen with new players

IDK its the mindset of i have deficit so i need to put 100 factories on artillery

and then not have any IC left

and then like

they get into gun deficit because they only make inf and battleplan small inf divs no air old guns

and resistance further drains the guns

its honestly imo probably easier to have a seperate production resource for garrisons because like they wont both spiral at the same time at least

[celest bronze]

Hi I am looking for someone to talk to about playing UK , someone who is pro at the game I would appriciate it a lot. I am in Helping Lounge 1

[scenic nacelle]

I would say I’m quite sufficient

[celest bronze]

Would it possible to talk to you on voice ?

If you are not busy ofc

[scenic nacelle]

No preferably

[signal fern]

Yh these tanks r NOT good for garrison

Might be cause I have no compliance but still

[celest bronze]

ohh okay I understand no worries then

[glacial steeple]

you just need to make enough sob

its 80% less losses

[signal fern]

Tried garrisoning poland in a test run

Needed 10k tanks

[glacial steeple]

theyre not that expensive lol compared to guns

it seems high but theyre cheap

and you can like

use mils

get efficiency on them

also get uhhh

cutting corners on design MIO

and produce with daimler ofc

[signal fern]

Had about 2 on since 36 ig

Perhaps 7

[glacial steeple]

do like 10?

its not that insane for ger

also start in like 37 probably

early mils are for stuff like anschluss

[rain hawk]

i just use cav with mp

[left mica]

Hes playing poland

trying to form commonwealth

Yeah he needs an immediate fix which isnt easy

[signal fern]

Ig

All you need is like 22 on guns iirc

For 2 months

[primal silo]

So, did some math:

[left mica]

Interesting

@signal fern ^^

[primal silo]

Assuming average resistance of 10% and no garrison damage reduction. With high garrison damage reduction (i.e. local police force) armored garrison hardness is mostly wasted due to reduction being capped at 90%.
TLDR: armored garrisons never save IC in a realistic timeframe (first break even point is after 20 years), so the evaluation is entirely on the MP vs IC front.
Armored cars confirmed terribad, light tanks preferable to medium but the difference is minimal so other considerations likely take precedence (MIO bonuses and exp buildup), if you have 10%+ garrison damage reduction, light tanks are pretty much always better.

[light knoll]

how is the cav cost the same between years
you're not gonna be producing gun 0 specifically for garrison

[primal silo]

If you are willing to produce cheap-ass tanks specifically for garrisons, why would you not produce gun 0 for them?

[light knoll]

fair point

what design is this assuming on the tanks

and is this assuming mp

[primal silo]

1 man light turret, machine gun, -20% IC armour, easy mainteniance in the '42 ones

MP in all units, with bonus scaled to current year

[light knoll]

isn't fixed superstructure cheaper

[primal silo]

IC/MP cost of MP included ofc

[versed rose]

fixed is 0.75

1 man light turret is 0.50

[light knoll]

hmm

is this assuming last battalion unlocked

or only on 42

[primal silo]

assuming all unlocked, I could recauculate for having it only in '42

[light knoll]

and what mio for tanks and guns

[primal silo]

no MIO for either since that changes by country and individual choices

[light knoll]

mios would be more effective for tanks, no?

since you can use one for design, which make production cost cheaper, and one for production

[primal silo]

yes, but would not change things by crazy amounts. At the same time, you are far more likely to capture outdated guns from the enemy than tanks, so you have always an influx of free guns while at war

[light knoll]

probably not a big difference tho

ig

[primal silo]

With 20 battalions in 36-39

[worn shard]

is amtracs special units

[light knoll]

yes

[worn shard]

ok

[wise dew]

i just got the achievement for staging the warsaw uprising as communist china how

[keen hemlock]

What 😭

You gotta explain this

[brittle hedge]

hello people

[dim salmon]

I can’t play my save as it’s from another version of the game

[scenic nacelle]

Check the latest pinned message

[twin kayak]

what is the advantage of puppeting ?

Do I get their industry ?

[red mesa]

you don't have to garrison anything and they give you a fraction of their industry depending on autonomy

[cold bloom]

it probably doesnt check who actually did it, just that it happened

[fathom thistle]

no garrison

oh nvm he already answered

• you can use your puppet as natural border btw your enemy

and you

[vital plinth]

Does anyone know how the system works when you beat a country how many planes do you get ?

Also if I puppet a country and later annex do I get more ?

[fathom thistle]

50% of their stockpile equipment

if it didnt change

[red mesa]

why would you want AI planes anyway?

[primal silo]

to sell on the market 😛

[red mesa]

valid

free ic

[vital plinth]

And if I annex a puppet Do I get 100% ?

[fathom thistle]

Not sure about that

[crisp ledge]

Which states should I establish Carlist cells in for the Spanish Civil War? I've got the generic north Spain locked down as per the focus, plus Eastern Aragon and Catalan (such a pain to snag those two, but worth it). I know I should be pushing into Madrid, but I also kind of want to go Carlist Spain - any advice on where I should focus my efforts?

Also, should I accept the fascist volunteer brigades? Germany's offering me panzer divisions, but I'm worried they'll turn on the Carlists when the schism comes.

[pliant condor]

I think the most important thing is killing the republicans early

you can kill them or basically kill them before the second civil war

[keen hemlock]

i would push where the military factories are

[crisp ledge]

How do you go about doing that? I've got a save immediately after the civil war starts, and as I mentioned, I have the north garrisons plus Eastern Aragon and Catalan.

I'm sorry to bother you, I'm just trying to figure this out. It's a rather complex war, but I'm pretty good with ground assault and micromanagement, so I thought I'd give it a try.

[dim salmon]

Do I puppet things then annex them?

[crisp ledge]

You can, but it takes a while and a lot of resource investment. If you want to annex something, best to annex it right off the bat.

[dim salmon]

So puppets are better than annexing

[crisp ledge]

Not generally, from what I've found. If you have the troops it's best to just garrison.

[dim salmon]

Okay

[crisp ledge]

Because puppeting only gives you a fraction of the resources, plus the AI is pretty stupid.

[dim salmon]

Why is ussr so hard to play 😭 im attacking Iran and Japan and Germany just jump me

[crisp ledge]

I suppose if there's certain industrial focuses you want your puppet to complete you can wait on those, but all in all it's better to annex.

[dim salmon]

Okay!

[keen hemlock]

sometimes i puppet majors with navies so i dont have to spend the points to take it

and i can do the manpower exploit

like ill puppet the dutch east indies

[austere roost]

most likely supply

[ashen zodiac]

all my previous games apparently cant be loaded because of the different versions, is there any way to fix this?

[inner mountain]

how do i request expeditionaries? and do i need to be in all the same wars or just 1?

[formal terrace]

yooo lol do you know whether my tick speed broke or what? I am going on 5th highest speed level and the game ticks like 1 day on a second and the whole game is kind of laggy when the time is on "go"

[glacial steeple]

thats just your pc

5 speed is however much your pc can handle

4 is actually capped and consistent

[formal terrace]

4 doesnt work as well and I do have a great pc

so dont think thats the problem

[hoary glen]

Roll Back Game version. There is a pin explaining how to

[glacial steeple]

its the only thing causing it so

[hoary glen]

Can be due to mods

[glacial steeple]

or that, something laggy

[hoary glen]

If you have a memory leak a game restart might fix the issue

[hoary glen]

Diplo menu. Click on the nation

[formal terrace]

no mods

[hoary glen]

What date are you at in game?

[formal terrace]

1949

[naive verge]

WHY CANT I CHANGE MY UNIT MODELS ANYMORE?

[scenic nacelle]

thats why then

[formal terrace]

?

[scenic nacelle]

13 years of simulation

[hoary glen]

Unless you have a monster PC that can happen. All AIs are infinity storing equipment and spamming Divs. You can tag over to some irrelevant nations and delete their troops and stockpiles and it can help

[formal terrace]

but the game goes to 55 I think?

[formal terrace]

hmm alr

thanks

[hoary glen]

Click on the picture in the designer iirc

[naive verge]

I cant nothing happens it dosent give me the unit texture menu like before

[hoary glen]

You can play to 2000, but it's only really made for 1936 to 1946 max

[formal terrace]

sad so no world conquest loll

[hoary glen]

Do it quicker next time 😜

[hoary glen]

I don't use it often I can try it out when I'm home

[naive verge]

ok ty

[half lake]

what is the best medium tank template for singleplayer and if you dont have the last battalion slot unlocked

[vital plinth]

Hey guys I can’t play my old save today I guess is the new ekspansion ? Any idea how I can load my saves ? I tried turning of the new ekspansion but it still says red and different version

[half lake]

you have to switch version basically just play hoi4 then select open launcher and there you can find the version

[glacial steeple]

youre not limited to 2000 either

[hoary glen]

I think someone went to 2030 on reddit once. To build a supply hub and port on every tile

[hoary glen]

8 Tank / 8 Mech if you have NSB do SPGs with Howie 2 else just current tech mediums is fine

[glacial steeple]

my longest was 2058

[austere roost]

It's in pins, you can replace Amtraks with regular mechs