ask-for-help-here

[spring harness]

best guide for op space marine divisions

[blissful ledge]

Is that Ok for a tank div?

[final estuary]

yall any tips for a good attacking div

it also needs to be kinda cheap

my industries still kinda bad

<@&916727971820240976>

[vapid gate]

hard attack is lacking no?

[coarse finch]

You don't need hard attack in singleplayer

[warm umbra]

Do you know if there is any way for me to restore all of the imperial provices? World tension has returned to 0% meaning I cannot justify on my intended targets

and any wars that happen do not cause world tension either....

[lime shoal]

should i make roach destroyers or beef em up and with what

also do i spam light attack on lc or heavy

[vapid gate]

is there a mod that forces the ai to make more heavy tanks

[vital plinth]

What is deathstavk surface fleet ?

[subtle socket]

its not the issue of heavy tanks its that ai wont even micro them properly ever even if they do. you can spawn in 200 good tank divs for ai and they'll throw into a random push in subsahara

[subtle socket]

all ur navy in 1 stack

[subtle socket]

mounty brick

cheapest pushing unit

or just a brick with large unit tactics

will also do the job

[final estuary]

Bet

[drifting bay]

voya

whats up

[compact girder]

Heavy tanks have crazy soft attack

But hella expensiv

[subtle socket]

the chasis doesnt define soft or hard attack the cannon and design does and ai will not make a good one

[subtle socket]

whats up

do the frenchies still play

[drifting bay]

yes

sometimes

for crazy games like now

[subtle socket]

i pm u

[candid mist]

whats the best way to playu ottomans?

[drifting bay]

click on buttons

[subtle socket]

^^^

ottoman gameplay is extremely slow and boring btw

unironically better just to go facist or communist

ottoman gameplay is internal conflict city till ww2 is halfway done

and like 50 focuses to do anything

[candid mist]

oh wait mb wrong server😭

[glacial steeple]

hi voya :D

[glacial steeple]

it got better with the saadabat tree, now you just get 2-3 daily pp and click all the decisions and its like, 12% pp stronger than before XD

[twin kayak]

what do you think about my defense against the germans ?

and wtf is going on with the server ?

[tough wedge]

is this division template good for offense?

[uncut narwhal]

no

dont use infantry to push

use tanks or special forces

infantry is for holding

[tough wedge]

can you give me a tank with good offensive capabilities then?

[uncut narwhal]

theres a pinned template

plus tank design

[tough wedge]

alr thx

[twin kayak]

will the german attack through the baltics ?

If not, I'll leave that border indefended

[glossy hatch]

good template for iraq 1939 ?

[half glade]

whats a good marine division

[verbal venture]

if you don't anex them they will not

[half glade]

how do i build a decent navy

i have my ships

but how do i compose my ships

[tough wedge]

a bunch of support companies like field hospitals, recon, support arty and anti-air with 9 marines, it still keeps the special forces checked next to ur division's icon so u can use it for a solid naval invasion. u can check for urself if it can use artillery without losing the special forces trait, as i didnt try that yet

[half glade]

went for this

based on a pin in the channel

[uncut narwhal]

bro use this template

[subtle socket]

line arty bad

[tough wedge]

use @uncut narwhal 's marine template cuz the soft attack's doubled so ur naval invasions will be easier by a mile

[subtle socket]

i do camels

[tough wedge]

ik its just i got a case of forgetting the current meta

[subtle socket]

its never been meta lol

people just used to think it was good

[subtle socket]

btw if u wanna minmax this ud use light tank recon for more break

and super heavy howitzer instead of armor signal

u get 500 + base soft and 400+ break

[pliant condor]

better ask yourself why you didn't annex the baltics

[tough wedge]

then is one singular artillery better?

[rain hawk]

🤓

[rustic sparrow]

Hi guys I need help pls

Like I have such a big surplus of medium tanks?

But it still says it’s waiting for 122 tanks to be delivered

Like how do I solve this issue? I’m trying to make sure my units r all filled up.

[vital plinth]

Hey guys as a small country building to a bigger empire I have no navry and no reach to beat any of the bigger countries yet I wanted to ask , can I still build up a navry from scratch ? And any idea how to ?

[neon quartz]

Assuming you converted divisions it takes time for the tanks to be delivered

just wait

[uncut narwhal]

was before nsb

[rustic sparrow]

Ah yes I converted

I see

[vital plinth]

Optimally *

[rustic sparrow]

So I need to wait a little longer? @neon quartz

[subtle socket]

not rly

[uncut narwhal]

wasnt 30w with artillery the best back then?

[subtle socket]

before nsb i was pulling 120 cas tics

with cas 1

people just thought soft attack = good

hp wall with cas beat arty build everytime

and ebfore nsb u could double side with cas with yellow air

[uncut narwhal]

ive only started playing in 2022 so i dont remember all that stuff

[median basin]

How to get "True Blitzkrieg" Achievement

[subtle socket]

there was a "bug"

with cas

cas has like a combat width so like 100000k and 1k wont make a big diff if the battles are small

but before nsb that wasnt the case lol

[uncut narwhal]

capping france and poland before 1940?

[subtle socket]

u could break the combat width infinitely

[median basin]

Yes

[subtle socket]

stacking 10x the amount of cas in battle

[median basin]

Wow

[uncut narwhal]

just declare early

ig

[median basin]

Ngl i can't even make a good template (i use the default)

[uncut narwhal]

do you have no step back?

[median basin]

Yes, gotterdammerung and la resistance

[uncut narwhal]

theres a tank template pinned

use that

just have fighters and cas

[median basin]

Sorry, pinned where?

[tough wedge]

the pinned message in the channel

[median basin]

Owhh ok, thanks

[neon quartz]

yeah it just takes time

[tough wedge]

when doesnt any good division template take time?

[indigo sapphire]

hello

are supersonic jets good

[vital plinth]

Hey guys as a small country building to a bigger empire I have no navry and no reach to beat any of the bigger countries yet I wanted to ask , can I still build up a navry from scratch ? And any idea how to ?

[wise dew]

is this a good division template ignore the name please 💀

[boreal ferry]

me personally i'd do 16w remove the engineer company try to get anti air

[wise dew]

whats wrong with the engineer company i dont really know what it does but i see a lot of people use it

[boreal ferry]

frontline is basically always moving so you'll never get all of the benefits from it and its expensive

[wise dew]

should i add a recon unit

[boreal ferry]

no but recon rangers are alot better

[wise dew]

ok thanks

[torpid flax]

helo guys how do i get oil like what do i biuld for it

[uncut narwhal]

its 20% of the cost of a 18w inf unit

[twin kayak]

what dlc gives rangers ?

and is it worth it ?

[uncut narwhal]

i think the newest

[graceful zenith]

what is the best sp artillery template?

[uncut narwhal]

like spgs?

[graceful zenith]

yeah

[uncut narwhal]

its pinned

[graceful zenith]

thanks

[twin kayak]

what can I do ?

I'm holding very well in the nort, but not so much in the south

these are the doctrines

(I just went for defense)

[boreal ferry]

uh

yikes...

i'd do superior fire power large unit tactics, then mission type tactics or grand assault

[celest garnet]

i need help figuring how to play the game i struggle alot with battle templates and what not never won a battle someone willing to teach me?

[boreal ferry]

idk if u have tanks or what

[twin kayak]

just infantry. I don't have enough tanks to effectively counter attack

[boreal ferry]

ye then do what i said

[twin kayak]

3x5x24 infantry

[boreal ferry]

show template rq

[twin kayak]

I don't think radio is usefull, so I might delete it

[boreal ferry]

no it is

thats just way too expensive of a div

delete one infantry and engineer company

[twin kayak]

Economy has been holding out for now

[boreal ferry]

replace engineer company for recon rangers

since your line is breaking those engineer companies are just a waste of ic

[twin kayak]

recon rangers ?

[spark gorge]

is there a way to make up for the fact that I dont have special forces doctrine

[boreal ferry]

wdym

[twin kayak]

but engineers give defense

[spark gorge]

missing out on bonuses

bc I dont have ncns therefore no special forces doctrine

[boreal ferry]

its expensive

and these are alot better

[twin kayak]

ok

[boreal ferry]

you dont even get the entrenchment off of the engineer companies

[wise dew]

are flammepanzers good

[boreal ferry]

amazing

[wise dew]

what should my template for them be

[twin kayak]

what is the difference between defense and entrenchment ?

[boreal ferry]

ill show u in a sec i needa get to research

[boreal ferry]

they're two different features but entrenchment buffs your defense

could be around 20-50%

but u arent getting that because frontline is always moving

[wise dew]

defense is just a buff to your troops defense and i think entrenchment happens if a division stays in the same spot for awhile

[boreal ferry]

it is also 30 support equipment

which could be used in more divisions

[twin kayak]

I don't know if it's a good idea. less defense for rivers, half of my line is based on rivers

[boreal ferry]

it is especially combined with both rangers and mountaineers

but uh is that recon rangers or am i tweaking

[spark gorge]

always good

freaky breakthrough

[boreal ferry]

why are u getting

debuffs from it 😭

O

nvm yeah still use it

[twin kayak]

I don't have the mat max lvl ? idk

[boreal ferry]

its just what you losing from engineer

[twin kayak]

well, I'll save the game now and try out what you said. I just see so many minuses in the defence category that I don't really now if it's worth it

[boreal ferry]

u can make alot more divs

recon rangers are half the cost

and btw your stats wont go into the negatives

infantry have no terrian debuffs

[boreal ferry]

always medium btw

[wise dew]

okay thanks is there a good division layout for them

[boreal ferry]

i mean it depends

i cant make it because i dont have this

nor doctrines

[wise dew]

so i should research military engineering vehicles?

[boreal ferry]

yes that as well

[trail reef]

are there any achivements that need elite difficulty

[spark gorge]

not how it works

you need need ironman+ regular or above for achivements

everything else is fair game

[spiral delta]

does anyone know how to naval invade as japan

im doing naval invasion plan to shanghai when i press the green arrow they dont go

[hardy elm]

u need naval dominance

[spiral delta]

how do i do that

[hardy elm]

should be tutorials online

[spiral delta]

yeah thats why im here

[hardy elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiMFUVCpmkM

i find chat gpt / ai tools are a great help or else google search

[uncut narwhal]

chatgpt is probably gonna give you shitty templates

[steady pecan]

Hey guys, quick question about Japan.

Does the Reorganized government/republic of china government you create (puppet from focus) core the lands you give to it?

[vital geode]

Over time, yes

However, you should make it after winning the war in china

Puppet China, then create it. That way it starts with all cores

[steady pecan]

I won the war and gave it to reorganized government, and it didnt core anything

sadface

[vital geode]

Because you made it during the war it seems

[steady pecan]

Yea

I wanted to larp

Thought it had core on everything, because why on earth wouldnt it

[vital geode]

Unfortunate. But they will eventually core it

Eventually

[steady pecan]

How long roughly? If you have an idea

[vital geode]

It costs a lot of political power for them

Per state

[steady pecan]

ah

paradox being paradox*

[vital geode]

They might core every state by 43 lol

[steady pecan]

I even could have just made a china puppet instead

Because the war was moments way from over by the time I could even do the focus

[vital geode]

Unironically would have been better

[steady pecan]

I hope wboever made it work this way stubs their toe

[sick ginkgo]

how air fight works (which stats do i need the most)

[glacial steeple]

goated

its half the cost of engineers

and it helps you defend in terrains that are more useful than river

[twin kayak]

pretty proud of myself, I've been holding alone :) That finland game from 2 weeks ago really helped

(don't pay attention to the arrows)

[spiral delta]

does anyone know why i cant naval invade when i have 100% naval dominance

[twin kayak]

have you declared war ? (sorry if it sounds stupid, it's just that it happened to me once)

[spiral delta]

yep i have

i think its cus i have 0 ships to transfer troops do i have to make them

[fathom thistle]

does your naval order have divisions?

it might sound obvious but yeah

[spark gorge]

chatgpt is probably just about the worst source of advice lmao

[spiral delta]

this?

[fathom thistle]

On the arrow

[spiral delta]

which arrow

[fathom thistle]

The naval order one

Just like you have with offensive lines but with nav order

[spiral delta]

is it somewhere here?

i never used navy before

so i dont know

[fathom thistle]

No, you have to plan your nav invasion with specific army

[spiral delta]

how do i do that

[fathom thistle]

You know where the icon are for like a frontline and stuff? More on the right side should be a anchor icon

That's the nav invasion order

[spiral delta]

yeah

[fathom thistle]

Select your port and then port u want to invade

[spiral delta]

then?

[spark gorge]

thats it

wait for the plan to get ready

30 or 60 days

[fathom thistle]

*once the bar is green

[spiral delta]

how do i know if its working

[spark gorge]

then you can set the plan going if you got naval supremacy

[spark gorge]

bar filling next to general portrait

thats the planning

the invasion itself is pretty easy to see

you see your troops get into boats and go there

[spiral delta]

is it working

[spark gorge]

they are plannig it out bro

look at the bar next to their pictures

or just hover over the execute plan button

[half glade]

how do i do a 1936 anschluss

[spark gorge]

why do you want that

also I dont think thats possible anymore

[spiral delta]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

thanks bro

[half glade]

oh rip

[spark gorge]

the army size requirement goes down as time goes on

when you start you need like 24x or somn

which is just not really possible

[woeful minnow]

is this good for the battle of poland?

[half glade]

ah okay

[spark gorge]

remove recon

too expensive

[woeful minnow]

alr

removed it

is it good tho

?

[spark gorge]

p decent

cheap and efficent

not that good for attacking

but it will defend

[half glade]

whats a good 1936 deck conversion to be producing

im germany

[uncut narwhal]

dont

[uncut narwhal]

literally still is

[vital plinth]

Hey is there a point when Britain stop guaranteeing Iraq ?

[uncut narwhal]

has been possible

still is

[half glade]

yeah i saw theyre broken

they get immediately engaged by the entire royal navy

[uncut narwhal]

why built a navy

holy

just spam naval bombers

[half glade]

cause i really like navy

my torpedo destroyers slap too

what do i get

[uncut narwhal]

assault infantry

grand assault also very good

[half glade]

alright

[uncut narwhal]

if your doing spgs, then spg doctrine

[half glade]

yeah i got told to change that

im restarting as germany

[uncut narwhal]

tanks prolly armored spearhead

[uncut narwhal]

restart again and rush anschluss

[half glade]

what here

[half glade]

you cant supposedly

[uncut narwhal]

yes you can

[half glade]

cause you need 24x stronger army

[uncut narwhal]

doesnt matter

what you do

day one

train 22 divs

20 mils on guns

deploy when equipped

thats it

[half glade]

whats the benefit of early anschluss

[uncut narwhal]

rushing anschluss and czechia just means a lot more industry earlier

[half glade]

let me try this

22 divs of the starting inf?

[uncut narwhal]

yes

[half glade]

lets try this

what focuses do i do

[glacial steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-26293326

[uncut narwhal]

first do rheinland and the reorganize

then führerprinzip

first pick is todt or hess

then anschluss

[half glade]

okay

[half glade]

thanks casey

[glacial steeple]

you get more stuff

to win more

[half glade]

yay

sounds fun

[ripe crag]

its saying to form the benelux i need the 'constitutional reforms' idea, how do i get that?

[half glade]

do i wait for other equipment

or just guns

[uncut narwhal]

just deploy them

and see

[half glade]

when

[uncut narwhal]

now

[half glade]

oh

I CAN ANSCHLUSS

[carmine thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/another-easy-steal-steal-gif-gif-steal-gif-gets-stolem-gif-7935542554022949277

[uncut narwhal]

exactly

[half glade]

god damn

[uncut narwhal]

then just get more troops for czechia and stuff

[half glade]

sweet dude

this is awesome

[ripe crag]

when u get fate of czecoslovakia

puppet slovakia

and annex the rest

and dismantle czecoslovakian forts in the descisions menu

[half glade]

i do that

[uncut narwhal]

why?

[half glade]

why do i dismantle forts

swear there is no benefit

[ripe crag]

uses up mp you need for poland

[uncut narwhal]

fort building speed?

[glacial steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271659028501758012/1421115586624098487/G1uoKENW8AAyw0_.gif

[hexed verge]

guys how do i do the cheaper conversion thing after the new update

that deleted the conversion rate tech

[uncut narwhal]

the conversion speed is now in the tools tech

[hexed verge]

oh wait is it just apart of production now

[ripe crag]

anyone know hot to get the constitutional reforms idea in netherlands

[uncut narwhal]

yes

you get it with the increase of cap

[hexed verge]

you can still convert tanks for less resources right?

[carmine thunder]

Where would you need to build forts in cores?

[uncut narwhal]

it only changed the tech

[hexed verge]

Okay thanks

[uncut narwhal]

that was my question

[sick ginkgo]

so uh

can anyone explain

how air superiority calculation works

(what stats are the most important ones in the plane for it to win the fight)

[sinful flume]

hiii :D i heard hoi4 is a ww2 simulator strategy game and that it is also very difficult :') i havent played anything similar but if anyone can recommend a good starting point or resource to learn the game from scratch i would really appreciate it!!!

[ripe crag]

bittersteels guides are really good, defo start w germany too

[sinful flume]

hi! is it this channel? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/c/Bitt3rSteel&ved=2ahUKEwju6uO9_uiTAxX7kq8BHUbIEF4QFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3dF50dW_pdqq19KRF-MCQg

[sick ginkgo]

Bitter steel has some good explanations

you can take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXIRRVZIY for some other info too

also

ask there for any other questions

[scarlet musk]

Yeah, it is really hard. But, as vykrn said, bittersteels guides are pretty good. I recommend you to play multiplayer with someone which is better than you, so they can guide you, well watching helps a lot. At least that is how i learnt to play hoi4.

[sick ginkgo]

people there are very friendly and help everyone out

[oblique jay]

Topic: I don't know how, but there is something I wanna ask, I never knew the Vanilla USA AI can kickstart a civil war by themselves lol.

Year 1985

Extra Context: Playing as PRC China late game, declared war against NATO, Nuked Harry Truman US multiple times with ICBMs, somehow they got 0 stability.
Commie USA pop up in California, then Truman crushed them.
Somehow Communist ruled USA by a fair election (not involved in couping them), they are still my enemies in NATO.
Another USA insurgency popoff in California again, but this time it is led by Harry Truman (oh how table turns), Unaligned States spawned in Chicago, and a Democratic Confederate State spawned in American South.

So how does the USA civil war even work lol as an AI? wasn't complaining as a player because that is making my job easy, as they are my enemies and it makes my job easier to watch them crash and burn by themselves as China.

but yea TLDR: I wanna ask how the US Civil war even works, and if your American AI ever civil watred by themselves

and no clue why they went commie by themselves either

[sinful flume]

nice thank you so much :)

[keen hemlock]

i dont think ive ever seen this before

[sinful flume]

sorry where?

[scarlet musk]

Sometimes the ai’s can be very random 😭

Well not sometimes, most of the time.

[oblique jay]

ikr it was the first time I see the Americans civil warred themselves

[keen hemlock]

but you are in 1985

so anything can happen atp

[oblique jay]

Ye, preparing for the Doom of Nato takes huge prepping

[keen hemlock]

mabye the ai launched 2 coups at the same time

[scarlet musk]

Every time when i play single player france goes down the communist part of the focus tree

😭

[oblique jay]

Oh yea Historical AI btw

[scarlet musk]

Fr

[sinful flume]

id def like to play multiplayer but the friend i found out about the game through refuses to 💀

[scarlet musk]

If you want to i can play with you sometime. Only if you want to ofc

[sinful flume]

ill try to watch the guides you suggested

[spark gorge]

larp

[sinful flume]

yes please!! although itll probably take a while for me to learn the basics

[spark gorge]

ifantry first then operations

[scarlet musk]

Maybe in 30 minutes

Cuz i need to do my math homework

[scarlet musk]

Oh dw, ill explain it to you in the best way possible

[sinful flume]

okay sounds good :D thank you so much

[scarlet musk]

Check dm’s btw

[sick ginkgo]

here

i meant here

mb

[sick ginkgo]

np

also

there is a lot of useful info in pinned messages

[sinful flume]

ill check out the videos until then thank you to those who suggested

[sick ginkgo]

No problem

[sinful flume]

oh wow nice ty :D

[sinful flume]

okok

[half glade]

so how do i do this when ive done all price controls

[dusty sandal]

you're at 38%, it's fine

you'll have to pillage gold when conquering countries (decisions) until you can do the achieve autarky focus

aquiring the resources for the focus should be your top priority

[half glade]

where do i pillage gold

is it only available while the country still exists?

[half glade]

means i gotta beat the UK by like 1941 right?

[dusty sandal]

once you get the "economy of conquest", which means, once you get into a war

[dusty sandal]

you don't need to kill uk to get autarky, but if you don't cap the allies you'll have to cap the sov or get romania

[twin kayak]

what is new in the latest dlc ?

[half glade]

ohh okay

[half glade]

cant i subjugate romania or something

[warm umbra]

Do you happen to know how I can keep the campaign going?\

The world tension has returned to 0 % and won't rise even when wars are declared.

Meaning I can no longer justify wargoals

[uncut narwhal]

is it ironman?

[warm umbra]

Yes

[uncut narwhal]

so either you get another way to go to war

or you edit your save file

[warm umbra]

If there is nothing to be done. This is the largest I can make the empire.

I wanted a war with hungary

but I do not have a wargoal

and they are also done with their focus tree

[uncut narwhal]

do you need achievements?

just edit your save file tbh

make it not ironman

[warm umbra]

I would like to conquer moscow still

if possible

have all 3 romes

[uncut narwhal]

can you turn facist again?

[warm umbra]

I can only turn democratic

[uncut narwhal]

bro what

[warm umbra]

My time of larping as Rome has come to an end I think

Start a new playthrough, I must.

[uncut narwhal]

or just dont care about achievements

they genuinely dont matter

[warm umbra]

I was asked whether I would turn this save into a world conquest

but a world conquest is rather hard when I can not get any wargoals

I tried using spies to create rebellions

[uncut narwhal]

you could do that if you would turn off ironman

[warm umbra]

and have those rebels join my faction

so I can enter the war

but that did not work

[uncut narwhal]

just edit your save file bro

[warm umbra]

Not worth the hassle I deem

[uncut narwhal]

bro

its super easy

like 3 minutes of work

[warm umbra]

I mainly want to continue because of the achievements

[uncut narwhal]

i have 27 achievements

they do not matter

real achievements dont have to be listed on some steam page

[warm umbra]

Achievements are what make me try new things

[uncut narwhal]

just set yourself your own achievements

[warm umbra]

I want the Bad Romance achievement still

so I guess I will do a Greece playthrough now

Although a proper Greece playthrough has become a lot harder in recent times

Since Turkey has become rather hesitant to use naval invasions

In my games atleast

[crystal torrent]

How the heck do I win the North African campaign Italy sucks

[warm umbra]

supply

Supply

and some more supply

and maybe some anti-air

[crystal torrent]

Okay

Thanks

[sleek remnant]

I just put the divisions I can’t disband, they usually hold or even push if I see the frontline weak

[warm umbra]

And you need to keep the Italian Navy alive

Whether that is with Naval bombers

or you upgrade your fleet...

[crystal torrent]

Okay

[warm umbra]

The moment italy's convoys are getting raided

you lost the southern flank

[crystal torrent]

Ah

[warm umbra]

You are asking this question as?

Germany?

[crystal torrent]

Yea

[warm umbra]

Build a lot of Naval bombers. Keep your subs in the Atlantic but just move your surface fleet over to the Mediterranean

And then. Maybe get a few good infantry divisions to hold your rear (ports), keep building railways and supply hubs

and if you want... use some medium tanks to push

but infantry can do the job

[crystal torrent]

Hmmm

Okay

[hexed parcel]

Why do i suck so hard

[warm umbra]

I have no idea

Do you?

[hexed parcel]

Thats why im asking

I lost to bloody netherlands as germany

[warm umbra]

Well, I do not know for certain whether you "suck" to begin with since I have never seen you playing HOI IV

[hexed parcel]

.

[warm umbra]

Mhh

Get bombers. Blow up the forts and then use some marines to push across the flooded tiles.

[shadow roost]

im new can someone play with me in multi player to explain what everything does?

[warm umbra]

You can also use regular infantry or tanks as backup if you want

But I would use marines to push

Especially if you are already stuck at the Dutch inundation lines.

[uncut narwhal]

marines to push the dutch?

nah

just fighters and cas

[warm umbra]

They are special forces with some decent buffs if you have a good template

[uncut narwhal]

but not needed

[warm umbra]

And if you are already stuck at the waterline.... they might come in handy

[uncut narwhal]

16w inf can push the dutch lol

[warm umbra]

I do not know if he is talking about The Netherlands SP or MP

[uncut narwhal]

def sp

[warm umbra]

That does depend on RGN I would say

if the allies have decided that today is the day that they flood units into The Netherlands

[uncut narwhal]

only happens if you like wait 2 years to use your troops

[warm umbra]

He mentioned that he already lost to The Netherlands

So who knows...

[warm umbra]

(as an incredibly patriotic Dutch man I am proud of what the AI managed to achieve)

A glorious Dutch victory

[warm umbra]

@uncut narwhal It is simply nice seeing that your country is not being represented as a useless country with an army that has no teeth.

[uncut narwhal]

the dutch are only good for the east indies, ill give you that

[warm umbra]

The Dutch East Indies.....

[uncut narwhal]

exactly

[warm umbra]

🇳🇱 Soon

[uncut narwhal]

the voc was more goated

tho

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-voc-dutch-malacca-melaka-malacca-flag-gif-24765621

[warm umbra]

50 procent of Dutch people agree with that

[shadow roost]

im new can someone play with me in multi player to explain what everything does?

[hardy elm]

.

[uncut sparrow]

guys for tanks daimler benz or man

[uncut narwhal]

henschel for design

daimler benz for production

[graceful lance]

hello comrades, i recently made my first V2 rocket as germany, but i don't know how to use it. Can someone please tell me how?

[analog wyvern]

how do i manage having no manpower as a minor nation during war?
Im cooked right

[trail reef]

can paratroopers have artilery

[obsidian badger]

whats the best doctrines for max speed
mobile warfare
infantry - mobile infantry
arty - recon and assult?
armor - anything rly
operations - deep battle, infiltration tactics, or mission tactics?

also idk why

but mobile recon and assult isnt giving the +20% speed buff to recon

[fathom thistle]

infantry bricks - more hp = less losses

[dusty sandal]

never man
henschel as designer, damler as producer

[glacial steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1214243184742367242/1362956144594915499/togif-24.gif

[covert hare]

are the first chasis airframe planes/tanks worth it? I keep seeing youtube playthroughs making them and mentioning about converting them? I'm confused since im under the impression that at some point the game was changed so you cant convert to different chasis?

[austere roost]

Only make most recent airframes for fighters, cas/nav/scout can tolerate older airframes

For tanks 1938 chassis is usually best cuz you get 1940 chassis too late

Plus the extra stats in 1940 chassis are not needed

[carmine thunder]

I'm thinking of putting some mechanised batallions as ussr in my inf divisions as ussr for increased defense is that build any good against sheep ai

[uncut narwhal]

ig defensive or large unit

large unit of inf bricks

[glacial steeple]

?

[uncut narwhal]

no idea if its good for inf only builds

i only use it for tank builds

[glacial steeple]

its worse than large inf if you use normal inf

its better for mech, SF

[uncut narwhal]

ahh ok

[uncut sparrow]

guys whats the best garrison i am doing only tanks and armored cars

[keen hemlock]

the best is like a full brick of mediums

althought im pretty sure armoured cars are good too

[arctic stream]

Yall Im tryna make roman empire as italy and it do most thing correctly like justify in Bulgaria anf get war goals on turkey and Greece but when I do attack them all I dont have enough of a army to sustain the war, and most of the time turkey is guaranteed by Germany or the UK, do u guys have any tips

[austere roost]

Truth is for garrisons the difference between one cav divisions and 50 heavies + motorized mp + land cruiser + super heavy + super heavy aa + super heavy spg + super heavy td is minimal

[twin kayak]

are random events defined at the start of every game of can I just reload a save before the event and get different results ?

[austere roost]

Some are, some aren't

[vapid gate]

how do i make japan fascist :/

[glacial steeple]

cant

[vapid gate]

then whats the point of this focus bruh

[balmy salmon]

CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO BEAT GERMANT AS USSR AGAINST THE REGULAR AI? Like bro, shit might just be impossible at this point

[glacial steeple]

japan used to start fascist

[balmy salmon]

Bro, i tried everything, why are my planes built from corn starch?

[glacial steeple]

now they have to turn it on hist in their tree

which takes time

if not on hist they might just not do it

[vapid gate]

do u have an idea about when they will turn fascist in hist

rn its like this

44 for non aligned

[glacial steeple]

its just focus based, nothing about support

[wise dew]

bro what is the kiwi empire

[vapid gate]

new zealand fascist route lol

[uncut sparrow]

i meant doing a challenge

so is one light tank with one armored car enough

[twin kayak]

Hold the line

[balmy salmon]

I can’t..

I tried holding on the river

They always go through

💀🙏

[twin kayak]

.

I did this

[balmy salmon]

Same

[twin kayak]

how much

[balmy salmon]

It didn’t work

[balmy salmon]

Wdym?

[twin kayak]

.

[twin kayak]

.

[twin kayak]

.

[balmy salmon]

Why field hospitals?

You can afford heavy loses

[twin kayak]

What do you mean by they always went through ?

[twin kayak]

still, didn't know how manw divs I would have to pump out (I was at war with japan too)

[balmy salmon]

They broke through the Dnieper defense line

[twin kayak]

2 seconds, gotta find the screenshot again

[twin kayak]

.

They got through, yes

I had built some forts and they worked well in the north

[keen hemlock]

just hold on untill they run out of everything, then push back

[balmy salmon]

North doesn’t fall like the south does

[twin kayak]

for the rest, I just didn't do anything, they attacked and I got pushed back some times, but not too much

[balmy salmon]

How about planes?

[twin kayak]

I know, that's what I did (it was just an example of what I did in his situation)

[balmy salmon]

Yeah.. but how much do i have to wait?

[twin kayak]

who needs planes when you have papa stalin

[balmy salmon]

Like

They just don’t run out

I hate having to battle Germany as USSR

[twin kayak]

I waited until the allies had taken italy

[keen hemlock]

oh

[balmy salmon]

I always hared it

Hated

[twin kayak]

The axis will have to redeploy troops and the pressure on your frontline will ease up

and then, push back

[keen hemlock]

id wait untill you are getting all green bubbles whle they push

[twin kayak]

I went full defence in my build. Might have been too much, but it was fun and worked out great

[balmy salmon]

Is that like 1944?

[balmy salmon]

Papa Stalin’s planes are made from ice cream

💀💀

[twin kayak]

you don't need planes at all. I prefered to put everything in guns, support equipment and artillery. I maybe should have gone for aa too, but I didn't think of it

[balmy salmon]

Bro… i had 300+ divisions, this is how bad i wanted to beat Germany

💀💀💀💀

[twin kayak]

this is what I had

[balmy salmon]

😭😭

[twin kayak]

(was fighting the pesky japanese, the finns and the axis)

[balmy salmon]

And you won?

[keen hemlock]

it depends bro

[twin kayak]

yes

[wise dew]

can someone send a good layout for a modern tank design

[balmy salmon]

Damn

[twin kayak]

I don't know if it's correct, but every time I try to push into russia, the start is very easy and then the lack of supplies slows everything down. I just utilized this: just defend till they are low on supplies (so that they become harmless), prepare the counter offensive and win

[balmy salmon]

Nah, as Germany you just need to run your tanks for the supply hubs and ur good

Encircle them and then just battle plan

I wish Soviet Union was this easy

😭😭🙏🙏

[twin kayak]

bro, I just put divs on the border and waited for 3 (?) years xD

It's easy

[wise dew]

pls help me make a modern tank design 🙏

[balmy salmon]

I’m used to having planes and killing people with Germany, but when i started playing the soviets, it was kinda crazy

[twin kayak]

Aren't modern tanks not worth it ?

[glacial steeple]

germany is just like super OP in game so the game plays itself unless you really mess everything up

[glacial steeple]

you can check by yourself

just fyi

you can do things like 'ic' instant construction 'it' instant training 'roic' research instantly 'sp_ra' for all projects 'mastery' for mastery 'xp' for xp if you ever need to test

[twin kayak]

idk, I was told that it's not the same as medium and it resets efficiency or idk

[glacial steeple]

and ff for free focus completion

[balmy salmon]

It does reset efficiently

Efficienty

PHU

🙏

[wise dew]

i have modern tanks researched for a flammepanzer division but i have no clue how to make good ones

[balmy salmon]

Can’t write

[glacial steeple]

1: its not the same type of tank so you have to restock everything
2: no turrets
3: worse armor than advanced heavy (which gets turrets)

[wise dew]

dudes debating about the modern tank instead of giving me the design 😔

[balmy salmon]

Design it yourself, ur smart

[vapid gate]

does this include marines?

[wise dew]

im new to this game and i just want to make a division template for flammpanzers and i dont understand stats very well

[glacial steeple]

modern tanks are bad

theres no real meta for them because they have like no stats

[wise dew]

then what do i use bru 💀

[glacial steeple]

mediums or heavies ?

[wise dew]

okay now how do i make them

i need a design template to produce them

[balmy salmon]

What country are you playing as?

[wise dew]

germany

[balmy salmon]

Just play the game

[glacial steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/check-pin-discord-check-pin-gif-1835998338632614419

[balmy salmon]

🙏🙏

[wispy rock]

why are my planes not bombing they done so before but now they stop but also con my other airwing they stopped bombing as well stopped

[wise dew]

this is absolutely phenomenal assistance

[balmy salmon]

Fr🙏🙏🙏🙏

Didn’t i help?

[wise dew]

what are those tanks with a long turret

like artillery bolted on top a tank

[balmy salmon]

Anti air

Or like

Can you send a photo?

[glacial steeple]

because of range

you see the circle

[balmy salmon]

Sp artillery

[glacial steeple]

they can only bomb within the range

[wise dew]

skill point?

[balmy salmon]

Beep.

Beep

Beep.

[wise dew]

how do i get them

[wispy rock]

thank you

[balmy salmon]

Hello!

Bro is talking with AI

😂😂😂😂😂

[wise dew]

my gosh bro i need help anjd dudes in here being like this dawg

[balmy salmon]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Wdym skill point?

[glacial steeple]

if you want to give someone help, be helpful and respectful :)

[balmy salmon]

I am!!

I was just laughing

It was funny

[wise dew]

i dont know what sp means

[balmy salmon]

It’s like, artillery on wheels

[glacial steeple]

self propelled artillery in this context

[balmy salmon]

That’s all you wanna know

[wise dew]

im about to crash out bro

[balmy salmon]

On tracks

There

[wise dew]

cant even get the modern tank design

[balmy salmon]

The great depression

Pig skin.

[sour wadi]

can i delay aunchluss by spamming out half equiptted troops?

equipted*

[glad sphinx]

What would be the best way to do this achievement "Die, Perfidious Albion!"
I have to conquer all of britain while being fascist as france and I have no DLCs

[sour wadi]

id assume rush turning facist. befriend britain and make sure the germans dont remiliterise the rhineland and annoy them at every step

like refusing them czech n that

if your lucky the oster plot will kick in

try get britain to back you when demanding the rhineland stays demiliterised, then use paratroopers to rush their southern coast

as soon as you turn facist

befriend, betray

and since you have large colonies, the AI will put troops on your shared african borders

so the UK mainland will probally be undefended

[glad sphinx]

early game would probs be best i assume

[sour wadi]

the earlier the less industrial focus's they can do and the less fortified they can become

you have a large army, and their army will be busy in africa presumably. so try land and then rush

[glad sphinx]

sweet sweet

ill try that thanks

[sour wadi]

ye, usually the ai will only really put up planes in contested area's

and since the UK and france share no land borders, theres a good chance if you dont put planes up above the english channel, they wont either

meaning you can sneak paratroopers in

[glad sphinx]

i think the problem i was having was waiting too late in the game to try

[sour wadi]

just to say, i havent done this achievement myself. so i obv am just talking via assumption

you could puppet your french colonies aswell, cuz the ai will put troops on the borders of them that never get used aslong as you dont call them in

theres an italy strat that does just that

[glad sphinx]

oh thats smart so the garrisons dont get filled with my manpower and weapons right?

[sour wadi]

so it probally will work for france too

[glad sphinx]

i hope so

[sour wadi]

more manpower and weapons for you. and the british ai wastes troops on african borders that they wont be able to do anything from

the ai likes to have troops on every single potential front line

thats why you can surround an enemys port, and the ai will keep sending divisions to it that you can encircle and kill

[glad sphinx]

i feel like ive tried overcomplicating it which is why my previous attempts fail

[sour wadi]

what did you try do beforehand?

[glad sphinx]

alliance with germany, declare war on britain. They followed the historical focus tree and went to war with the entire planet lmao

[sour wadi]

i mean it is occupy, so that could work

if it was annex, thats a whole different issue

problem really is navy

with the french navy you can get naval superiority, if you know how navy works and make the proper ships and planes

[glad sphinx]

ill be honest i only really know how to use the army/air. I have like 90 hours

[sour wadi]

ah, yeah makes sense

dw about it

if you can beat em in the air, you can do paratroopers

36 with blocks of paratroopers work so good, its genuinely surprising

width*

[glad sphinx]

ill need alot of special forces cap then for that wont i

unless u mean para with inf in the regiments

[sour wadi]

if you go grand battleplan, you can get tip of the spear

which will greatly increase your cap

but honestly you only need 5 to do some work

[glad sphinx]

would it be best to use them to take a port and land my whole army

[sour wadi]

yeah

[glad sphinx]

nice nice, ill try that

[sour wadi]

you wanna try land here, in the red line

that red line will take 4 paratroopers, and will encircle dover and portsmouth

the blue circles you also wanna try land there, but while you land there you use the red line paratroopers to reinforce that landing

[glad sphinx]

okay i see i see

what amount of paratroopers should i use

[sour wadi]

as much as you can really

the more you have, the more likely to land

you also wanna have your army in the northern ports of france, to quickly reinforce the landing if you do manage to capture a port

[glad sphinx]

i see i see

could i also stage a fascist coup and use them to land my troops?

[sour wadi]

what worked really well for me was a 36 width paratrooper division with just paratroopers. with support artillery, engineers and anti-air

[sour wadi]

i dont think you can do a coup to a majour country. plus you need to occupy the land directly i think

to get the achievment

[glad sphinx]

yeah i see i see

[sour wadi]

the facist government you made would take some land

[glad sphinx]

yeah thats true

[sour wadi]

if you have enough paratroopers, id also try land 1 in that tile below london

gives you a river and a shorter front line for the landing. making it easier to hold while reinforcement arrive

this one

[honest bloom]

How do I select all of my navy across the world and bring them

Is there a button to select all?

[vapid gate]

which one of these is best for marines?

[keen hemlock]

pretty sure large unit tatics is

[graceful lance]

i need help i have 315 strategic bombers in stockpile and want to deploy them but i dont know how and they wont show up at any of my airbases

i really wanna drop a nuke

can someone help?

pls

[wispy rock]

you click on a airport and there will be airplane with a plus you click that that you would be able to deploy

[graceful lance]

but that just selects the ones thats there from the looks of it

i just tried

[vapid gate]

bru does anyone know how i increase this

[left glacier]

You don't seem to have any manpower available to form a strategic bomber wing

[graceful lance]

but i've had that stockpiled for like 4 in game years most likely more

and i had a lot of manpower in that time

wouldn't it just auto deploy?

thats what it did with my other planes

[left glacier]

If there's already an airwing, yes

Other than that, you'll need to create a wing manually through an air base

When you create one, there are several aircraft icons you can use as search filters to look for a specific aircraft in your current stockpile

[graceful lance]

ok, how do i get more manpower to do that though? all of the manpower goes to making my divisions and stuff and i only make like 6.5k manpower per month even with 5% recruitable population

[left glacier]

What is your current conscription law?

You will need to increase your conscription law to increase the number of recruitable pops

[graceful lance]

extensive one

5% recruitable population +10% training time

[left glacier]

You need to go higher if you are able to do so, which is service by requirement

Alternatively, you can adjust your garrison division template if you do have one

[graceful lance]

alright ill do that

[graceful lance]

i dont think i do cause i have never seen it

[left glacier]

A garrison division is basically a division with high suppression that is used in garrisons. Typically a division with cavalry or armored cars with military police support company

[graceful lance]

it wont let me cause i only have 42% war support

[graceful lance]

ok and i have one more question, where do i find the armored cars and the mobile military police?

i dont see either in the research and i have military police iv

[left glacier]

Armored Cars are La Resistance DLC exclusive

[graceful lance]

oh, i cant afford that right now sadly

but what about the mobile military police?

the one with the motercycle icon

[left glacier]

Motorized military police is gotterdamerung exclusive if I recall

[graceful lance]

jeez, why is stuff even locked behind DLCs

its not fair when all it adds is simple vehicles and stuff

when the DLCs already add new focuses and stuff

[left glacier]

Disregard

You will have to do the military engineering vehicles special project

[dawn tiger]

hey i'm new to hoi 4 and I think I'm doing a good job at everything but war. i played as germany three times and the moment I have to fight poland i just give up. i don't know what I'm doing wrong. any video, learning resources on war mechanics?

[tropic igloo]

anyone have advice for doing qing china as manchuria

[graceful lance]

when making ur divisions try to give it high breakthrough and high soft attack and hard attack

[left glacier]

Paradox has an official guide for the game
Beginners Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXIRRVZIY
Advanced Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDTSfLAuI0
If you are looking for a country specific guide, hoi4 youtubers like Bitt3rSteel for example might be the place to go

[dawn tiger]

okay i'll check that

[dawn tiger]

same. ty for the resources!

[vapid gate]

does germany declare war on the allies or just specific countries?

[left glacier]

Specific countries that eventually join the allies in historical

[vapid gate]

so if im in the allies as fascist NZ germany will not declare war on me

[austere roost]

no ai doesn't declare on vassals unless directly

[glacial steeple]

bhm are these people native to the united tribes (current new zealand/Aotearoa)

[austere roost]

yes

pdx games are based on real history don't you know

[visual yacht]

Arent modern tanks mediums production with a heavys armour? What stats are they missing? I thought moderns are only "bad" because you cant get a good production of them in a practical timeframe

[glacial steeple]

no but you cant choose them as leaders for anyone else

[visual yacht]

Or do medium tank buffs/doctrines not apply to modern?

[austere roost]

they're also bad with stats because you can't put on second turrets

Moderns are considered mediums when considering buffs but they have issues with the stats that really matter (soft/hard atk and production cost)

[visual yacht]

Looking at some random steam guide, they dont look like they lack in stats?

Unless something changed recently maybe these images are out of date

[keen hemlock]

💀 didnt know lincolin was from nz

[visual yacht]

Why does this happen? Are they trying to cover an area of the front thats on the other end, is that why it moves around so much?

First time using super heavies last night and they spent more time in the water than on land

[austere roost]

Idk man there seems to a very important stat in the bottom right corner that matters a lot

[austere roost]

Because pdx didn't code an ai for railway guns

[pliant condor]

yes when you compare ai designed garbage 1 to ai designed garbage 2 they might not appear very different🤣

modern tank is basically nuking your efficiency + paying heavy cost for medium stat

[visual yacht]

Yeah i get that "I thought moderns are only "bad" because you cant get a good production of them in a practical timeframe"

[pliant condor]

main thing is you cannot have secondary guns

[austere roost]

Yeah

Also both designs are shit

[visual yacht]

Ok so it is just less soft attack actually

[pliant condor]

so you lose lots of stats for ahh some reliability?

yes

stats are not created equal

[visual yacht]

Gotcha, ty guys

[austere roost]

But 74 atk for 14 cost and 74 atk for 29 cost is a big difference

[sour wadi]

how do i become liechtenstein?

[pliant condor]

most stats are irrelevant

[vapid gate]

i just built a dockyard but i cant use it?

[sand ember]

wdym

[vapid gate]

idk it says you have no dockyards

[sand ember]

did you build a dockyard or a naval base

[vapid gate]

dockyard

[sand ember]

then you have a dockyard idk

[sour wadi]

bruh i only have 1 special forces branch as austria? how do i fix that

i need 2

[vapid gate]

yeah thats weird

[slate nimbus]

still in the same save from yesterday, are 48 infantry divisions and 1 motorised good enough if im already in 1941?

[white holly]

im trying to get naval dominance for my naval invasion but it's not working, how do i do it? im trying to naval invade iceland

[sand ember]

it is in occupied territory

since you are occupying the land you don't get the full factories

[sour wadi]

how do i get another special forces branch?

[sand ember]

(probably) go to the garrison view and check what you're getting from that island

if you set it the garriosn law to harsh quotas it might give it to you idk, otherwise you can wait for more compliance

[vapid gate]

there it is

will increasing compliance fix this?

[gloomy vector]

Should you only do French Union (guaranteed with mod) if going democratic? Or is removing full employment still better than coring all colonies targeted by the focus?

[sour wadi]

yeah

[sand ember]

it's rng whether or not you actually get them

[sour wadi]

it should

[gloomy vector]

im using a mod that guarantees all accept

[sour wadi]

i think they said its garantueed they core it all

[sand ember]

my bad i can't read

[gloomy vector]

but is full employment that bad

[sand ember]

yeah coring is great

it's much stronger to core all that land

[gloomy vector]

ah i see

thx for the help

[sour wadi]

how do i get another special forces branch as austria?

[gloomy vector]

is bloodless right opposition coup strongest soviet path if successful

[proven cargo]

how do you fully cap norway

normally when I get to the top of norway my troops are just stuck at the area when trying to go north

[sand ember]

could have changed but i'm fairly certain stalin is still the strongest

someone will correct me if i'm wrong anyways

[surreal mason]

quick question
is quick improvisation got removed?
my doctrine is grand battleplan

[south horizon]

Should I be using MIOs for my research? Is the political power hit worth it for ~5 days off some upgrades?

[keen beacon]

How can i remove that "_" between words? cause i saw a vid where he removed it and also put info

im using KaiserreduX

[noble rain]

I know rangers do better in forests than mountaineers base value, but i seem to do better when I use mountaineers in forests than even rangers from the other stats that come from their doctrines

am i missing something?

[woeful minnow]

is this a good paratrooper template

template*

[austere roost]

yes

you need funds to upgrade your mios

[austere roost]

yeah, and you can do dual trees for mountaineers and rangers and have both in your divisions to get buffs from both sides

[balmy dawn]

Is there a fix for the bug where auto-saved games "lose" the task bar at the bottom of the screen?

In this screenshot, if I hit F1, this is all I get. I can select units on the map, but there's no info bar. F2 works, though.

[serene karma]

Ur using a language they dont support

Use English or ask them to support spanish

[honest bloom]

Is space marine good for single player?

[austere roost]

No

[serene karma]

Rangers dont have much forest buff

Either more of snow or mountain buff

[noble rain]

i mean the special forces not the support company

[lusty spoke]

Why does it say I have "insufficient" naval dominace when I literally don't..?

[smoky sparrow]

idk the invasion is still preparing

[lusty spoke]

that's not the issue

it did the same thing with a different invasion

[neat widget]

yeah this is a weird issue

idk what's going on here

[smoky sparrow]

It's saying you have 237 out of the 91 ships required; maybe it's an integer overstack. There's thing in code where if it gets above a certain value it wraps around

[fallow orbit]

for naval battles the planes on my carriers automatically participate in the battle right ?

[spare knot]

yes

[fallow orbit]

is there any worth to having fighters on my carrier , i see people run nothing but bombers

[smoky sparrow]

Fighters and heavy fighters are the only things that give air superiority without them your bombers get shot down

[fallow orbit]

what ratio do u run

50/50 ?

[smoky sparrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ok-396

[violet maple]

hi guyds whaat is attacker tactic damage

how do i get rid of the debuff

[uncut narwhal]

the tactic gets like randomly selected

so you cant really do anything about

you set a preferred tactic iirc

but thats not guaranteed

[violet maple]

whats the best preferred tactic

[uncut narwhal]

no idea

[violet maple]

also 67

[austere roost]

Depends on your doctrine choice

[proven cargo]

What is your tank template for early war germany?

[lavish saddle]

how do I make the party support spy thing go faster?

[regal geode]

how exactly does a naval invasion panned out? like do i need battleships and quadruple the men the other country has or?

[neat widget]

you just need more naval dominance than the enemy and 30-60 days

[regal geode]

does every ship produce dominance?

[neat widget]

yeah

but some produce more than others

[violet maple]

how do i check how much collab governements i've done?

[neat widget]

there should be a collaborations tab

the occupations tab should be on the left, puppets on the right

[glacial steeple]

its a weird tab, it mixes with exile governments

[torpid flax]

Helo guys i have a question how to produce oil fast