ask-for-help-here

[glacial steeple]

navy speed is averaged

[austere roost]

wait really?

[glacial steeple]

i think so

could be confusing it for range

probably actually nvm

regardless tho how much does speed matter

[austere roost]

from what i saw raising speed from 20 to 40 reduces hit chance by44%

but like actual speed of the fleet

is it the average speed?

[keen hemlock]

is there anyway to speed up the polish decions that annex romania and czechoslovakia? it doesnt seem like im getting any progress

[glacial steeple]

idk i havent played the game in a while

and with a while i mean like a week

[astral heath]

what do i play if im horrible at the game

[austere roost]

i'm trying to figure out if i can build enough planes to get green air as ussr in +4 germany and italy

i can get like 1:8 kd ratio but +4 germany just brings an infinite horde of planes

[astral heath]

is this good infantry?

[dusty sandal]

no
where anti air
and I see the line arty in the stats

[astral heath]

this is it

[dusty sandal]

best inf is 9inf, support arty, support aa (singleplayer)
it's meant to hold

not die en masse by attacking with no breakthrough or HP

[astral heath]

so like this?

[dusty sandal]

nooooooooo 😭

you haven't read what I wrote

add 1 line AA if you're getting bombed to death but it isn't required

[glacial steeple]

are you making ground units?

[glacial steeple]

thats really expensive wow

[austere roost]

yes 120 36w spg units, 108 20w 8inf 1 td units and 12 26w 12 mountaineers 1 td units

[slender lodge]

@glacial steeple wsp

[austere roost]

and then I can make 1000 1940 planes that will shred german planes but +4 germany has infinite planes and oil

[glacial steeple]

2 of those or 1 of these ahhh

[glacial steeple]

why not beg lend lease so you can put more on air

smh

not a real air gambler

[slender lodge]

Is enginee good for infantry?

Or too expensive?

@glacial steeple wsp casey

[glacial steeple]

hi

[slender lodge]

@dusty sandal Francis

Can you and @glacial steeple recommend me an early-mid game infantry divition

[glacial steeple]

you can make infantry faster if you want

[glacial steeple]

its the same as everything else, youre just bad at getting stuff out

nothing shown here is particularly late game

[slender lodge]

ok so you just

[oak jasper]

The most common opinion is that for your standard 16-18 width defensive infantry division, it's usually not worth the cost, but engineer (and engineering variant) comapnies are vital for offensive units.

[glacial steeple]

or particularly early game

[slender lodge]

you just offensive to me

[glacial steeple]

get good guns

make units

[slender lodge]

no no

you hurting me casey

Im done.

[glacial steeple]

if you dont have good guns, use idk tanks or air or something

theres probably something there

[slender lodge]

Tanks aint that good in south America tbh

Yesterday i just invaded Uruguay fast and i was sending troops to help
Spain

And Brasil just declared War on me

Got them
So easy

[glacial steeple]

make air

[slender lodge]

.

[glacial steeple]

yeah you just need like units for that

[austere roost]

cuz ai planes are worse than not having planes

[slender lodge]

Getting Brasil
Since Start was boring but powerfullt

[glacial steeple]

that cover tiles

they dont have units that cover tiles

[slender lodge]

also casey

[glacial steeple]

so you walk around after creating any breakthrough/encirclement

[slender lodge]

can you recommend me a motorized divition?

[glacial steeple]

no

[slender lodge]

Like i wanna produce motorized to take over countries fast

[slender lodge]

why no

[glacial steeple]

beg for guns?

[austere roost]

speed is useless

[slender lodge]

Infantry aint that speedy than it

[glacial steeple]

it can be useful

[slender lodge]

no

[glacial steeple]

but theres no supply for it

its not gonna do anything

[slender lodge]

if You enemy doesnt cover roles u can easy rush their ports or air base

[glacial steeple]

if you wanna snake, just use like 2 widths

[austere roost]

yeah you won't have supply

[glacial steeple]

thye might move faster idk

[slender lodge]

i never have supply issues since i motorize my hubs so

[glacial steeple]

in south america theres like terrible supply

[austere roost]

that doesn't matter when you're attacking other nations

it takes 7 days to fix enemy supply

[slender lodge]

if You do a national focus with Argentina thats called “
Improvisaciones for war “
It gives you two supply hub on North and south

so you can easily use supply hub for that and you wont ran out of it

[gleaming grove]

whats the best unit to cross a river? Like when you know the country you wanna invade has a natural river boarder and you cant outflank the river. Marines? Rangers? Amphibic? Or just plain infantery?

[glacial steeple]

if you really need to then amphibs or marines

usually theyre not a huge issue though

[austere roost]

yeah that would take too much micro effort in sp

[slate cedar]

how do i play turkey?

[glacial steeple]

left click on the map, start game bottom right

[slate cedar]

i meant like whats the general strategy for turkey

[dapper wren]

dont do it

worst country in the game

literally

[slate cedar]

any african country is worse no? 😭

[dapper wren]

nah they are more fun

newer focus trees

turkey has like a very weird design where you have to blast through 70 day focuses until like 1940-1941

then you can have some fun

[unkempt sonnet]

turkey is actual torture

[dapper wren]

its extremely boring

[unkempt sonnet]

it took me until like 1941 to get my first actual war goal

the terrain is terrible for combat

your economy sucks

and its very difficult to join any major faction

[slate cedar]

ah i see...

[slate cedar]

what are some fun countries then?

[dapper wren]

Germany,Japan,Italy,Austria

have the best paths in vanillia

[glacial steeple]

try not to die

make sure to click decisions that give manpower

your manpower is always getting drained by kurdish people

stack political power buffs so you can click the buttons more

[glacial steeple]

eco is fine

just gotta click the decisions

[slate cedar]

what about minors? (i know you said austria)

[glacial steeple]

which is why you need like 2-3 pp gain a day

which is actually not like excessive

you just kinda need/want that

[slate cedar]

thanks

[unkempt sonnet]

whats the best method for communist china?

[keen hemlock]

which side of the danzig banch of the plish focus tree will give me more manpower?

[somber spear]

with or without dlc

[glacial steeple]

what are we doing

[obsidian bison]

What is a good infantry template for general use?

[glacial steeple]

defense ?

[obsidian bison]

Both

[austere roost]

small width divisions for defense and large width divisions for offense

[obsidian bison]

Thank you

[subtle socket]

if u have air u win the troops on the ground are like half the battle against ai

[wintry matrix]

Do I have to directly own Bosnia and Herzegowina?

[glacial steeple]

just occupy

but yeah no puppet

[gleaming grove]

Can i assign the factories to the upper priorities? Or would i have to delete existing productions?

[glacial steeple]

why so much different stuff

your airforce isnt even a viable weapon

[gleaming grove]

i didnt put in airforce

[glacial steeple]

you dont have the resources or production

remove it put it on guns

you also wont need support equipment or trucks until later in the game

first priority should be getting weapons out there to the best of your ability

the best weapons you can also

[gleaming grove]

so i should research weapons?

[glacial steeple]

your army cannot fight without ground forces and your industry is too small to allow diversion

yes

[gleaming grove]

kk

[wintry matrix]

What now?

Serbia?

Montenegro?

[glacial steeple]

i think its like zaolzie maybe

idk tho

[wintry matrix]

Hm.

I thought I took it.
Or I thought that it wasn't needed because it wasn't part of Slovakia.

[glacial steeple]

IDK tbh

[gleaming grove]

Should i go for what that guy says?

[austere roost]

No one's saying anything

Just take sfp or gbp

[glacial steeple]

lowkey it would be rlly good if those advisors gave ticking mastery

good for larp and guiding people into hist doctrines

[oak jasper]

GBP is the usual preferred offensive doctrine: it both increases maximum planning bonus, and gives you some extra command power to hit the "staff office plan" button more frequently. Superior firepower is better for the defensive, since it does a better job of boosting unit stats.

[glacial steeple]

sfp does NOT boost unit stats better

it just has more org

[oak jasper]

And is that not a stat?

[glacial steeple]

not one that helps you fight

just makes fights longer

[oak jasper]

You're drawing a very bizarre line to me.

[glacial steeple]

you dont kill more, you dont lose less

it just allows you to defend longer

org is not a stat thats super mega important

[wintry matrix]

I found the issue.

Sad.
Paywalled achievement.
Despite essentially doing exactly the same.

[scenic nacelle]

Bruh

[austere roost]

Too bad the meta doctrines were figured out almost immediately

And honestly just training gives enough mastery

I can get to lvl 4 mastery even with USSR's debuff

[glacial steeple]

the core game would need a lot of stat changes

[keen hemlock]

reuinion is in the game iirc @obsidian bison

[obsidian bison]

Thank you

[wintry matrix]

What is the issue this time?

[dark thunder]

Are those completed?

[rose plover]

three different inf subdoctrins for example

[dark thunder]

As in you’ve acquired full mastery

[dusty sandal]

3 subdoctrines on the same subdoctrine

[dark thunder]

I’m lost

[rose plover]

thats one

for each

2 more for infantry and you get it

[dusty sandal]

this is 4 tracks

one must be completed, then changed, then completed

[wintry matrix]

https://tenor.com/bsifJ.gif

[dark thunder]

…what?

[rose plover]

you need 3 different subodctrins on infantry, artillery, armor or operations

[dark thunder]

And bro completed them

[rose plover]

you need 3 of these completed

[dark thunder]

ah okay

[dusty sandal]

complete that subdotrine, change it for another, complete it, then change it again and complete it

[wintry matrix]

Ew.
Okay, I understand now, I believe.

[rose plover]

thats literally what i said

with 3 of these, since they are all subdocs

[dusty sandal]

only 1 needed

I did it on poland, only did the rightmost one

[austere roost]

I mean only 1% of the player base knows what the stats do

[wintry matrix]

I'll try.

[dark thunder]

I think they mean the same track, I dont think you need to change them ALL

[rose plover]

yes

1 track, 3 subs

[wintry matrix]

I wasn't sure what levels the fastest. Soooo.

[dark thunder]

Fair

[rose plover]

thats what you used most

[austere roost]

Infantry and operations, they're the cheapest to train

[brazen blade]

I am having trouble joining multiplayer games. The other players are using version v1.17.5.3 ef5d (cdcd) of the game. I have bought all the content except for one music pack. I do not know what is causing the problem. Is anyone else using this version of the game? You can see my version, in the picture.

[royal vapor]

I wanted to at least try and steal german gold, but I can't click the decision. My modifier is named "Swiss Gold Market" and not "Swiss Gold Trade", so I can't do both Allied Gold and Axis Gold?

[glacial steeple]

the illusive 1%

[austere roost]

Tbh i still don't know what reliability does to planes

[glacial steeple]

makes them crash less

[austere roost]

Like by how much?

[glacial steeple]

they can also attrition if the airbase has no supply

pro tip

dont put planes there

[austere roost]

Tbh I main ussr so even with 100 reliability, planes still fall down

[glacial steeple]

their base is 80

[austere roost]

It's just plane damage from crashing just isn't enough to matter

[wet crater]

Planes can attrition?

[brazen blade]

For some reason, I can’t earn any achievements. I’ve turned off all my mods and haven’t changed any game rules or enabled any buffs, but the game still acts like I have a mod active. Could someone help me or explain how this is possible?

[wintry matrix]

Worked.
Thx.
That's counter productive in a real game.
But it is what it is.

[fathom thistle]

did you try reinstaling?

or verify files integrity

[brazen blade]

I have not tried reinstalling the game. I will give it a try to see if that fixes the issue. I will let you know if the problem still exists after I reinstall it.

[storm solstice]

is it better to try to come back after 1942 (not hopeless), or just restart

[light knoll]

as who in what situation

[storm solstice]

Behind in army and airforce (only 2k planes to the allies >10k)

And my airforce and tanks suck

[storm solstice]

italy

[light knoll]

what situation

show map

show in game ss including as many details as possible

[glacial steeple]

i believe so

[fathom thistle]

isnt it like during night?

or is that different thing

[glacial steeple]

you couldve won the game by that point, but up to you

[glacial steeple]

no during night they just use exorbant amounts of fuel

[fathom thistle]

ah

thats not so bad

[wet crater]

I thought the accident chance is higher?

I always thought thats why you train fighters on day only

[glacial steeple]

oh yeah

i guess that too

night flying is like

you get 1 sortie

they use twice as much fuel during the 2 sorties at day

than during*

and they crash a lot, and do less damage

its crazy

well, not a lot

but like more

[brazen blade]

Even after I reinstall the game it still thinks I am cheating. I might just delete all my mods. See if that fixes the problem. I will try it. Let you know if anything changes with the game.

[glacial steeple]

its prob a mod you have enabled

even if they dont change much

[brazen blade]

all of my mods are disabled

[fathom thistle]

try to go to directory from steam and delete all, maybe there is like a loose mod or sum

[forest cipher]

Are there any ways to decrease game lag. I'll be playing as Germany and just get to conquering europe, when the game becomes unplayable. Yet, my PC specs, I would say are above average. Any help on this?

[glacial steeple]

heck

[fathom thistle]

Gimme a sec, I have a long guide for that

:>

[fathom thistle]

Disable everything in settings except rivers and full resolution rendering. change resolution to 1366 fulschreen. You will always want to launch the exe file in directory so steam doesnt consume any of your ram (you can launch from steam just to get updated your achievements). Download driveer booster and memory reduct (both free) restart your pc. Start with launching memory red and clear your ram (go in settings and turn the auto cleaning ram after 96% of ram usage. You can exit that now. Go to driver booster and turn the turbo mode on, exit it. Now launch hoi 4 exe from directory. Once the menu is loaded go to task manager, click hoi4 go to details, change priortiy to high, exit task manager and go back to hoi4. Before you start your actual game (iron mode to get achievements) start a random game without achievements so you can acces console, type: debug_smooth. You can exit that playhtrough and go back to your main one with iron mode since this command stays until you leave the whole game. Having too many saves also may impact your perfomance so if you know you are not going back to that saved playthrough delete it. Download fps map mod, it works with iron mode too.

bonus tip download fps map mod, it works with iron mode too

[storm solstice]

Map is fine. germany is invading ussr, nothing major has happened
my divisions just dont have the ability to generate any offense anywhere
And i pretty much have permanent red air because of said airfoce problem (light mgs, no engine upgrades, no improved bomb locks etc)

No dday etc has happened

[light knoll]

just don't do air, don't do tanks, do infantry with aa? its easily enough to win

[fathom thistle]

btw this guide is for like really potato pc's so if you have more ram u can leave steam running i guess

[light knoll]

i only ever play like that

[storm solstice]

i control all of europe minus barbarossa gains and turkey

and pol

[storm solstice]

i have a save in 1939

right before i declare on france

[light knoll]

it literally doesn't matter but

do whatever

[storm solstice]

Alr

[brazen blade]

I just deleted all the mods I had from the workshop on my PC. I’m going to try again and see if it still happens.

[brazen blade]

Still can’t get Ironman mode to work. The game keeps acting like I changed settings, used debug mode, or have mods on. This is so frustrating.

[brazen blade]

I mentioned earlier that my game version seems off. The launcher shows v1.17.5.3 ef5d (cdcd), but when I’m actually in the game, it shows v1.17.5.3 ef5d (f4b0). Not sure why that’s happening.

[glacial steeple]

do you have a playset selected?

assuming you never changed your files manually

[brazen blade]

i also did try to boot up the game without mode playset but it didn't work

[glacial steeple]

click no mods

change it

left click

left <--- ---> right

[gleaming grove]

is this good defense infantery?

[brazen blade]

I already tried that before, but it didn’t work. Here’s proof in the pictures I’m not sure what’s wrong with my game?

[wintry matrix]

You didn't choose the wrong playset?

[brazen blade]

here the other proof that i did choose the right playset before boot up the game

[wintry matrix]

Okay, I cannot help further.

[brazen blade]

I’ll try turning off all my DLC and see if it works worth a shot

[brazen blade]

I turned off all the extra game content I reinstalled the game from the start. I even got rid of all my Steam Workshop modifications. The game still does not work. I do not understand why the game is not working for me. It seems like I am the person who is having this problem with the game. I am really frustrated, with the game. The game is just not working for me.

[glacial steeple]

its not got to do with that

IDK i cant ser your computer

[brazen blade]

then what is the problem?

[glacial steeple]

IDK

[brazen blade]

should i just ask tech support

[glacial steeple]

its usually got to do with having edited files like if you mod them or something

yes

and someone will respond in like 12 hours there

but at least theyre knowledgeable about tech stuff

[delicate mortar]

Do i have to make a new light tank to use the airborne light tanks? i cant seem to find them

[fathom thistle]

scam

[neat widget]

nah

but close

[gleaming grove]

what would you change?

[neat widget]

imo things like an extra anti-air or signals are probably better than engineers

[errant chasm]

Line aa?

[neat widget]

also what doctrines are you using

yes line aa

for especially red environments

[gleaming grove]

idk and i got the game closed already 🛏️ its time

[neat widget]

good night then

[glacial steeple]

i think its just another small div nerf

small divs are just like, bad

you can always last stand

[errant chasm]

But thats banned in some mp games

[glacial steeple]

bad mods

last stand in this version is far from OP

crits are insane

[neat widget]

fair

i mean you can't always last stand with the amount of command power you have

but you can very often do so

[glacial steeple]

CP shortages have hit the hoi4 community

but even if you dont, its not always a critical attack

you lose less overall and deal more crit

[serene karma]

[glacial steeple]

also you need a huge amount of AA for small divs

which is lessened

[night escarp]

why cant i proclaim spy master?

[neat widget]

yeah that's fair

[errant chasm]

You need one more

[glacial steeple]

some of your faction members also need spy agencies

[neat widget]

yeah

[light knoll]

that's not true

[neat widget]

isn't it a faction thing now

and yeah that's not true

[glacial steeple]

spy master

i believe so

but idk

[light knoll]

you just need 3 different branches

with upgrades

[glacial steeple]

ohhh...

im dumb

sorry for spreading misinformation chat

[light knoll]

the entire faction get free spy agency with 3 upgrades in code breaking if you complete the appoint spy master btw

very useful

[glacial steeple]

im going to play a hearts of iron IV game what nation do i play in this playthrough

[light knoll]

anything but Hawaii

[glacial steeple]

ive also deleted all my saves because loading up hoi4 was eating my memory

hawaii is good in vic

its good in vic

it has content

[light knoll]

i think you need a break from Hawaii

hmm

play communist Khotan ma

[glacial steeple]

but why

[light knoll]

why not

warlords are kinda fun

[glacial steeple]

polynesia formable my beloved

[light knoll]

but i never really did communist warlord

[light knoll]

play Philippines

they core Polynesia

[glacial steeple]

you could put it in ck3 and itd still be a cool formable im just saying

in basically any time period, i think its a cool concept/thing

[glacial steeple]

oh yeah are they strong

i only played them like, twice

[light knoll]

they have potential

[glacial steeple]

once before dlc

[light knoll]

but

annoying

very slow

[glacial steeple]

so theyre weak

communist looks kinda strong

[oak jasper]

Just to double-check: if "Mexico" is justifying against me, that should definitely be original Mexico, not the Mexican Junta?

[glacial steeple]

its the nation called mexico

[light knoll]

communist might actually be the best one you're right

[glacial steeple]

usually the one with the focus tree

[light knoll]

because its fastest

[glacial steeple]

everyone glazes the path where you core spain

but like, its spain

its not that rich

[light knoll]

its not coring spain

its coring everywhere that is Spanish speaking

[glacial steeple]

ok so you core spain

[light knoll]

so all of latin America except Brazil

[glacial steeple]

yeah thats spain actually /j

[light knoll]

true we're in 1700

[glacial steeple]

thats kinda like, idk, its something

theres better nations for that

like chile, france, mexico, SPAIN can do that

[light knoll]

its rng fest

Spain sucks for that

[glacial steeple]

ok but its better than phi

[light knoll]

Philippines can get it for free is the thing

[glacial steeple]

you get vets and generals

[light knoll]

yea

[glacial steeple]

so its like mexico who gets it for free and a bit of grinding

[light knoll]

mexico doesn't core south america

does it

[glacial steeple]

i think it can?

claims at least

[light knoll]

claims yea

but not cores

[glacial steeple]

i thought it could

[light knoll]

only on central america and north south america

[glacial steeple]

idk im old and played mexico like twice

first time, multiple civil wars

after that a few games grinding central america

[light knoll]

how do you play Ethiopia efficently

[glacial steeple]

for fun

[light knoll]

like

after you kill italy

[glacial steeple]

you use the army to fight

[light knoll]

what then

[glacial steeple]

which path

they play wildly differently

[light knoll]

the best path

so jah

[glacial steeple]

communist you get like several factories, you can get the best tank MIO combination if you feel out there

henschel + mystichi

havent seen anyone do it

but, you can

or ig you go renault because it gets the special nodes

[light knoll]

communist is still like

very slow to actually do anything

you need to get country by country

[glacial steeple]

fascist, you get some spawn in off map mils and no army xp because your mil high command is dead

dont play fascist ethiopia

democratic you uh

youre democratic

you can larp and break up the country for eco then annex them

and go do democratic things

like sit there

[light knoll]

is there a democratic path?

[glacial steeple]

yes

[light knoll]

isn't it just non aligned

[glacial steeple]

you get democratic support when haile sailassie is in exile

so you can go democratic

[light knoll]

oh

[glacial steeple]

its, not very good

[light knoll]

exile

[glacial steeple]

no

you can live

he just needs to be in exile

boarded train

[light knoll]

i went for the jah path

[glacial steeple]

and war ongoing

[light knoll]

for the compliance

you get insane compliance

[glacial steeple]

ok, its a path

yes

[light knoll]

but nothing to use it on

[glacial steeple]

its one of the paths

you get some puppets for eco idk

if you wanna larp you can still do the other formable i think

[light knoll]

also irregulars suck so bad

[glacial steeple]

theyre so good

they get inf buffs + irregular buffs

more hp, less attack, less org

[light knoll]

you're literally limited to maximum of 48 divisions

for the entire game

[glacial steeple]

thats so many

[light knoll]

can't use support arty

can't use aa

[glacial steeple]

what if you make tanks on the side with your craaazy MIOs

but youre jah so no crazy MIO

[light knoll]

the hell are you supposed to do without aa

[glacial steeple]

ok so

ai no build airfield

avoid airfield

make regular army on side

youre not locked out of making a normal army

you just, get inf thats good as well

[light knoll]

yeah but your sacrifice buffs for them

[glacial steeple]

48 of them

not a lot

see it like this

you need the irregulars to have early advantage/take eco stuff

then if you have a crazy long big front, just make normal guys and like tanks or something

you kind of just use irregulars to get ahead comparatively

because idk if you noticed but your industry is kinda bums

now if you wait very very long then irregulars do fall off yeah

and just dont use the irregular doctrine

its bad

but idk, ethiopia is bad now

italy takes macalle its unplayable

[neat widget]

ethiopia was like that pre-ncns too

i remember, it was a struggle

[glacial steeple]

well yeah but i think they made it actually impossible, IDK tho havent played in a while

its so sad :(

[glacial steeple]

how do you play philippines btw

its like what if you had no army no stuff

[neat widget]

philippines has zero ic 😭

i just went monarchist path and conquered the us somehow

[glacial steeple]

im gonna ignore the eco paths and go communist

and just have no mils

maybe i can do the funny capture equipment build

how good is the pro US subtree stuff

nvm its bad you have to do the political tree

hmm

i wanna steal macarthur maybe i can keep him

[neat widget]

one click and your paratroopers have 3 times the org 😭

[glacial steeple]

wow this mil has bad output

not as bad as afghanistan on elite, but maybe it is worse in output if played on elite

oh wow, an airforce

any philippines experts in here

[simple nacelle]

why do i need to have naval dominance in all of these areas if i just want to invade barcelona

is it because i dont have gibraltar??

[rose plover]

thats what it looks like

[neat widget]

why do you have so few divisions

[tropic seal]

finland ahh division count

[simple nacelle]

i took too long for the brazil civil war

so i had 0 factories

[rose plover]

well you didnt need a civil war xD

[tropic seal]

might be first and only person to go communist brazil

[rose plover]

you just needed 60% communism before the you did the focus and you wouldnt have a civil war

[neat widget]

casey probbaly had before

[tropic seal]

true

[rose plover]

i did too

[tropic seal]

99% of brazil playeres just go democracy / monarchist lol

[simple nacelle]

im trying to go for the achievement, its pretty painful

[rose plover]

get cores on all of south and central america

[tropic seal]

idk how fast communist brazil scales

[light knoll]

i have no clue i didn't have much success in it

[glacial steeple]

new idea

im going to ignore the depression and the army debuffs

they dont impact combat

[light knoll]

getting grand doctrine in 1943 🔥

[glacial steeple]

i already got the first node because of some buff XD

[keen hemlock]

the army one gives -90% factory output

[glacial steeple]

dont care

i live in bliss

XD

ohhh i dont get wargoals and the dutch are in the comintern

i seee

ok ill just chill then

[keen hemlock]

you have fun with no guns

ill have fun with my rocket interceptor

[glacial steeple]

if you want to fast conquer everyone communist is great

[glacial steeple]

i have guns tho

its just output buff

its not that bad

[rancid pagoda]

any advice (I already capped) i am not the soviets

[keen hemlock]

i mean you cant make more

wait

[glacial steeple]

wdym? i am?

[keen hemlock]

buy from the market

[glacial steeple]

im making like 5 per day

[keen hemlock]

oh

[glacial steeple]

5.5

[keen hemlock]

😭 mb

[glacial steeple]

thats with debuff btw

im about to get rid of it tho

because i cant be bothered fighting either allies or comintern rn

but you def get a lot of early IC out comparatively

if you wanna like, world conquest or whatever

youre also free early

[keen hemlock]

yeah

wait philipenes gets a focus that gives them a stronghold network?

[glacial steeple]

idk i havent looked XD

[keen hemlock]

but moscow only gets 28 land forts

[light knoll]

wait @glacial steeple
is there nothing in the tree that makes you independent as communist?

do you need to reach treaty of manila

[glacial steeple]

its a mission

you get it in like 38

its also just faster

[subtle socket]

this isnt a real question right

[glacial steeple]

and you get a temporary decision for 25% mil output

which is good

[light knoll]

oh

[glacial steeple]

try it, its prob best for your playstyle

tho idk how youd get like para range, justify on a side in scw?

if its still ongoing

get air access

[light knoll]

nah it'll be too late

I can't get enough transport planes in time anyways

[glacial steeple]

you cann

probably

just use the mils

[rose plover]

is there a reason why i get everytime the notification if the ai calls their allies in a war i´m not even participating in

[subtle socket]

is ur faction at war

[light knoll]

ok so its not a matter of time you just need to reach 0 threat

doable in like

middle of 37

[light knoll]

france joins the allies in the middle of 37

[glacial steeple]

thats so much pp loss :((

but yeah

[light knoll]

clicking the mills decision delay when you get free

[glacial steeple]

also you can get macarthur during your waiting time

or get civs

but macarthur funny

[rose plover]

i´m at war yes, but if they declare war to a country i´m not at war with i get notifications when they call all their allies

[glacial steeple]

its a lot of foci for him to be forced to stay tho

[keen hemlock]

are you guys fellow achievement grinders?

[tepid tendon]

I've had the game for a while now, but i got kinda overwhelmed by everything when I first got it and left it be, now i wanna learn, could somebody walk me through it?

[glacial steeple]

uhm, its easier to watch tutorials for that because theres a lot you can go wrong with

or in a vc, i guess

[tepid tendon]

any recommendations for an actually good tutorial, cause I watched a few and im still pretty overwhelmed by everything

[glacial steeple]

just pause videos, play game, read

reading is tough

i think the best beginner nation is finland because it forces you to read (buffs) plan out stuff like focuses to succeed

and research weapons that you need ahead of time instead of doing useless stuff

and its all very relevant

and also it gives you good generals

which are important

theres only 1 trait in them that matters for you, camo expert

[finite terrace]

I feel like new player Finland sounds wild to me, surely you just play a Balkan country and figure out the game right? Like just play Hungary and join axis or something?

Maybe I'm wrong and you just play Germany actually, learn a bit of everything

[pliant condor]

that's the most boring gameplay possible

if you want that it's probably better to play like raj or something

at least you would be on the winning side

[glacial steeple]

germany is so bad for learning XD

its really hard to find your mistakes because theyre stupid OP so by the time youre losing youve done like millions of things wrong

[finite terrace]

They're gonna make obvious mistakes on legit every country, vanilla Finland also probably sucks without dlc yeah?

[robust quartz]

its fun modded

[finite terrace]

But yeah idk I don't know if there's a right answer to this, I just think it gets easier if you try something like Germany to see everything a bit and refine from there

I'm just operating under the assumption we're talking about new players playing vanilla

Most people don't boot up RT56 first playthrough lol

[uneven ember]

anyone know why u last stand mech for barb as soviets

[glacial steeple]

no its rlly good

you have content 😭

[glacial steeple]

yes, finland gets stuff

turn off dlcs and check lol

[remote sedge]

Has annyone else experienced France going communist every single historical game?

[tropic seal]

no

somethings very wrong lol

i dont think france has ever gone communist on historical for me

[remote sedge]

yeah, usually for me france never goes communist. Even on non-historical

but its been happening every game for a while now

[wraith cypress]

How to go the fate of the balkans (tsar ferdinand 1 path bulgaria) and conquest the world/aggressively?

[vital geode]

In the past, but i thought they fixed it

Also I thought it only happens if you dont have la resistance

[glacial steeple]

who are you playing

[remote sedge]

Japan

[glacial steeple]

it happens to players too its event chain, but ai depends on player usually

[simple nacelle]

does anyone have a reliable guide for wc as brazil? I've tried a bunch of others but they don't work since the NCNS update

I cant seem to get enough naval dominance to invade britain/japan even after stealing the ships of portugal, argentina, and spain

[tropic seal]

yeah?

ive done it multiple times as different paths

easiest one is probably monarchist

[tropic seal]

brazil can build up a very strong navy

[simple nacelle]

im trying the communist path

[tropic seal]

ah ive nevr played that

id say you democracy or monarchist

its the easiest

monarchist for wc probably you get an adviser that gives you +2% recruuitable pop

for absolutely no debuffs its insane

i didnt have to go above extensive to wc and if you were efficient you wouldnt need to go above limited

build like 130 dockyards

i usually have six lines of very good light cruisers, six lines of carriers and six lines of battleships

everything else into mils you only need like 150 mils or less

i core south and central america then i take out the us and canada

then i take out japan

and then germany

[simple nacelle]

doesnt it take too long, then the us joins the allies

[tropic seal]

and after that you win

[tropic seal]

so? just take ou tthe allies

without the us the allies are nothing

they get rolled

[tropic seal]

you could probably cut down a lot on this btw

this is overkill it slams every ai navy

without a single ship lost

i use a lot of marines / mountaineers / rangers hybrid divs

theyre my main pushing divs

i usually ignore tanks since ill be fighting a lot in places with crap supply

and you dont need tanks in sp anyway special forces are basically tanks

you dont even need an air force

but its very nice to have one

naval is obviously more important because i end up not using my air force in the pacific anyway its just good in america and europe

[simple nacelle]

i was hoping to knock out a faction early to make it way less tedious but oh well

[tropic seal]

youll only be fighting 1 faction at a time with this

germany and japan will be at peace with you while you take out america and britain

oh i mean the soviests will be alive

but like they cant do anything

america + britain --> japan --> soviets if they havent capped already --> germany

and after that you win since theres no one that can even contest you anymore

its just a matter of boring fighting in africa and mopping up some neutral minors like turkey and ireland

[simple nacelle]

thank you for the rough outline

1960 wc it is 🫡

[tropic seal]

this can easily finish by 45

even if youre not sweating with micro or anything

japan gets wrecked in a month or two

america takes the longest but they cant do anything

britain dies in a month

soviets should be on their last legs when you attack them since its the entirety of the axis vs them solo

and germany takes the longest but theyre pretty weak since the ai never understands how to manage economy of conquest

[tropic seal]

you can swap soviets and germany here it doesnt really matter

[simple nacelle]

im not nearly as skilled enough to do it by 1945 lol but thanks for the vote of confidence

[tropic seal]

the only important part is rushing dealing wiht the cacagao or whatever theyre called since stability tanking is always bad

and then rushing united states of south america

for the massive amounts of resources mp and industry you get + like a fleet of nearly a hundred ships

theyre crap ships but theyre useable for gettinng naval dominance in empty seas

you can battleplan everything since its all inf anyway

get some 18 widths to hold the line and use the 32w special forces in areas where you want to push

[glacial steeple]

its not that hard

you have like, all the buffs

all the scaling

[simple nacelle]

do you get enough time to kill the south americans before they start getting guarantees?

[glacial steeple]

just walk into the US with units

but like its a slow nation

remember that its slow

argentina is the fast nation

[glacial steeple]

you want to escalate wars anyway for world conquest

its not very relevant

[tropic seal]

kill? wdym

you only have to fight the fascist ones

[glacial steeple]

all

[tropic seal]

peru venezuela el salvador

and domiance republic

[simple nacelle]

they start joining the ax in 1940 though

axis

[tropic seal]

peru?

[glacial steeple]

1940 is so late

[tropic seal]

just murder them

[glacial steeple]

try argentina

[tropic seal]

whats germany going to do about it lol

[glacial steeple]

you unite the continent by max 1940

rush wargoals

[tropic seal]

brazil numero uno!!!

[glacial steeple]

it scales far better

but like

[tropic seal]

does argentina get a free entry into europe

[glacial steeple]

its so slow

[glacial steeple]

portugal

[tropic seal]

oh they get portugal too?

[glacial steeple]

you justify

[tropic seal]

1943 and later brazil is a monster

[glacial steeple]

with the button

portugal is the gateway because of cape verde

[tropic seal]

more industry than the soviet union

[tropic seal]

ah i just usually go monarchist

[glacial steeple]

and very bad navy

[tropic seal]

so i can then manually justify on spain to get a border with germany

[glacial steeple]

and very bad army

you can still do that

or do you mean brasil

brasil is just ough

i dont like it

[tropic seal]

i meant brazil

[glacial steeple]

i mean i like it

[tropic seal]

i love brazil

[glacial steeple]

but its like

you have to play until forever

because your start is like 2 years slower than arg

[tropic seal]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

and everyone else also scales

[tropic seal]

its good for post 1943

iwhen does brazil outscale arg?

like late 43?

[glacial steeple]

41 or so

arg scaling is terrible

[tropic seal]

oh

[glacial steeple]

maybe 40

[tropic seal]

thats not terrible then

for a wc

[glacial steeple]

but you can puppet stuff instead of annex as arg

yeah its a fine nation for wc

but youre gonna escalate wars

[tropic seal]

yeah but you get cores when you annex as brazil

[glacial steeple]

so like, dont care aboit guarantees

you are going to fight everyone anyway

[tropic seal]

guarantees are so ueless anyway

once you take out ameirca youre untouchable

you have all the oil and resources and industry you need

the only problem wiht brazil is it has like

no resources

its so sad

no steel no aluminum no chromium except from cuba

cuba and portugal are your only decent sources of chromium

until you wipe out america

tbh you should cap america before you start needing a lot of chromium anyway

[glacial steeple]

air

make air

[tropic seal]

yuh i do

its got good rubber

[simple nacelle]

would it be bad to kill the axis first

rather than the us

[tropic seal]

yeah

the us is your source of steel and your only threat in the entire game

take them out and you win

no other nation can touch you as brazil

[glacial steeple]

you dont have a land border with them

[tropic seal]

he could go through spain

but like

[glacial steeple]

also you kind of like, can get convoy raided

[tropic seal]

at that point

why would you

[glacial steeple]

if youre at war with allies right

post taking out axis

how are you going to defend your stuff effectively

[tropic seal]

yeah your navy only starts kicking in like 40 or 41

[glacial steeple]

i guess navs, but its really annoying

[tropic seal]

41 prolly

[glacial steeple]

its better to go allies first so your logistics are always secure

[tropic seal]

before that you have to rely on the crap ships you get by annexing

[glacial steeple]

if you play pragmatically

[tropic seal]

and they suck

[glacial steeple]

ending axis first is probably faster

but less reliable

[tropic seal]

nah id still think ending america first is faster than ending axis

[simple nacelle]

i killed spain just so i could get their navy but now i have a land border with the axis

[tropic seal]

you secure infinite fuel and a good amount of steel

[tropic seal]

does communist brazil core everything?

[glacial steeple]

release as puppet button

[tropic seal]

i havent taken alook at the focus tree

@glacial steeple

[glacial steeple]

they core a lot

[simple nacelle]

it cores latin america

[glacial steeple]

its really good

[tropic seal]

so do the other 2 brazilian paths

[glacial steeple]

but cores are kinda mid as communist

[tropic seal]

does it outscale monarchist?

[glacial steeple]

better to liberated workers

[glacial steeple]

yes

[tropic seal]

zayum ill do a playthrough then

[glacial steeple]

well like more core pop always outscales but yk

you get the funny occupation law

infinite factories

[tropic seal]

you dont lose that much pop

[tropic seal]

true

[tropic seal]

i lost like 1 mil

and i just battleplanned mostly

special forces is so broken

japans second on the chopping block just cuz you can

[glacial steeple]

yum

[tropic seal]

put up the bad fleet on the first 2 seazones west of like california

[tropic seal]

oh i use 31.6w 8 marines 4 mountaineers 4 rangers

31.2*

[glacial steeple]

so imagine if it was stronger for no reason

[tropic seal]

i usually use this should i add spaa and pioneers

[glacial steeple]

zzzzz

[tropic seal]

hey i have red air in japan

this was originalyl meant for japan invasion only

i just kinda got lazy and used it in europe too

[glacial steeple]

im gonna sleep is all

[keen hemlock]

3 different special forces

[tropic seal]

yes

[keen hemlock]

omg

[tropic seal]

gn mate

[tropic seal]

its fire

it does great in every continent

[keen hemlock]

wait

[tropic seal]

with air or without doesnt really matter

[keen hemlock]

can you get 3 special forces doctrines

[tropic seal]

yes

[keen hemlock]

wait how

button + what focus?

[tropic seal]

ill check when i get back on

i think??? im not 100% sure

but the only 2 doctrines that you need

[keen hemlock]

i thought the button went away after u would do a focus that gave you another branch

[tropic seal]

are marines and mountaineers

ive never used para doctrine tree

[keen hemlock]

ye

gimmick unit

[tropic seal]

but yeah this units good even without air cover

if you had air cover obviously youd change a lot about it

i also use this to battleplan through mountains

[keen hemlock]

oh damn

[tropic seal]

it shreds stuff in mountains

and forests and rivers

and it doesnt need much supply relative to how much it does

so you can throw these things into like western china and theyll do fine

[neat widget]

forest ranger doctrine is worth contemplating, but yeah

[tropic seal]

yep if you have 3 then def take it

[high basin]

I'm gonna be 1v2, my friends, as the Soviet, and they're gonna be the USA, and UK. I have never done a PvP. Is there any tips for me?

[west swan]

how is that fair

[left mica]

yeah ur cooked

[high basin]

i mean that dont have much time on this game am i still cooked?

[inner sparrow]

depends what rules you guys have and how good u are or the other players

but in general if they can declare war on u whenever or naval invade u wherever ur just gonna lose

usa & uk vs sov in general doesn’t make sense for a 2v1

if it was ger vs sov okay, still unfair for u but atleast u can play the game

[high basin]

than if i was on germany would that be better?

[neat widget]

poor germany micromanaging two massive fronts

[inner sparrow]

yeah, depends on how you guys decide how you can win the game

you should never be able to naval invade or get near capping them if they aren’t complete noobs so u guys have to make a decision on how u win the game like capping the soviets or something

as said, are you playing with rules or not?

[high basin]

we are not gonna be playing like too out of the hand

[inner sparrow]

whats that supposed to mean

just simple, whats your win condition?

like when do you win? bc if it’s capping both of them its not gonna happen

unless ur playing vs little timmy and his chudling with like 10 hours of hoi4 mp experience

[high basin]

i think they are play to cap me ill tey to cap them but i dont think i could

[inner sparrow]

cap them with what, the mighty soviet navy? or the insane soviet airforce? brutal

germany is a bit better in that regard

u can try to sealion the uk and cap them if its a bad player

[glacial steeple]

make one

navy is more viable than air at least

[high basin]

if they are playing usa and uk what is the best country to play against them

[glacial steeple]

the answer is always germany

stupid broken nation

but if you want it to be fair, ussr is probably fine

youre just gonna suffer in navy/air

idk how many playerd you have, maybe ussr+japan vs uk+usa could be kinda fun, but like its so hard to balance because the US sucks

and USSR just has little research

[inner sparrow]

its a 2v1

usa and uk vs ussr

[wild rune]

It is doable

[inner sparrow]

if they are completely shit yes

[wild rune]

Also depending on the rules

[inner sparrow]

but if either of them has a brain sov just insta dies

[inner sparrow]

ofc

that’s why I asked what their rules are before

[glacial steeple]

is jap+sov vs uk+usa fair?

i think its biased but like idk how much

or maybe you get china and they unify by like 39 or whatever

still no navy or air tho

[inner sparrow]

depends on ruleset

[glacial steeple]

just generally

for non optimal gamers

no attache usa

no attache uk

because most sp players dont know the button exists

[white bobcat]

Im doing a group lynching of casey, any tips?

[inner sparrow]

imo it’s jap and sov favored but it depends on rules and win conditions

[wild rune]

3 main rules being no spacemarines, no paras, and historical ideology

[inner sparrow]

spacemarines are the most useless rule in mp

if ppl are good

[wild rune]

Bro is a dog idk like fight him or smth

[inner sparrow]

but none of those rules are balancing rules for a game like that

with that just insta declare as usa with the decision u get from
china war and call uk in

and gg u won

[wild rune]

assume ts is a vanilla game with a group of friends who are just messing around gng

[inner sparrow]

.

[wild rune]

Yeah

[glacial steeple]

arent thry still meta

[wild rune]

Soviet Union doesn't have time to build up and allies are at a major advantage

[inner sparrow]

it depends on what kind of spacemarines u do

[glacial steeple]

oh yeah

[inner sparrow]

but the normal one where u just have one tank in inf division doesn’t matter at all

[glacial steeple]

i sometimes forget people do like spaa 20w

trash

[inner sparrow]

yeah

like a split of 8 tanks 10/mtn or rangers is the reason u disallow it

[glacial steeple]

do u like mine 🥺

[inner sparrow]

nothing burger

[glacial steeple]

its break tho

[inner sparrow]

this has more

[inner sparrow]

but yeah u could use a td instead of the at here sure

that would be better

but still not the reason u would ban space marines

u can just do like 8 tds and 10 rangers and get rid of all the forest debuffs on ur tds

have fun on barb :)

[inner sparrow]

also this one lacks howy focus, it should be used with it tbh

[vagrant stratus]

Hey folks! I just picked the game up a few days ago and. Needless to say I'm confused, as I'm sure many before and many after me have been/will be lmao

I have watched the beginner guide video and I'm mostly confident with actually navigating the menus and doing stuff, the main things I'm caught up is what actions I should be taking, and the why. So on the first game I'm trying as Italy, I managed to finish taking Ethiopia in November of 1936 (do let me know if this was slow or about on pace, I don't know how well I was doing on the combat lmao), and now I'm not really sure what exactly to do. Do I just build up research and infrastructure to prepare for the coming wars? That's what my first thought would be, but just focusing on that I feel like I'd be missing something and doing things wrong. As for the other issue, once I know what I should do, how do I build up the knowledge of both what I should be doing to prepare most efficiently, and why it's the best way forward? Cause it's one thing to be told what's the best, and another to be told what's the best, and why it's the best move to make. It's the whole schtick of give a man a fish/teach a man to fish lmao

if anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it!! Sorry for the wall of text too haha

[glacial steeple]

wdym barb

[inner sparrow]

birb

[glacial steeple]

boring war

overdone, seen it

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-run-cat-hit-dumb-cat-small-cat-cat-pain-gif-5201429184094247707

[glacial steeple]

italy is really bad imo

ethiopia should be faster but is fine, infrastructure is usually bad

milutary factories are kind of how you make an army

[vagrant stratus]

Oh? I suppose I didn't think Italy was like majorly good or anything, but I was mostly picking a nation I figured would help me learn the game better rather than one that would help me win once I understand everything. Do you have another suggestion for a country that would be better for that purpose?

[glacial steeple]

uhm, cant say anything about your gameplay from the text

[glacial steeple]

idk all nations are kind of bad beginner nations in their own way

italy just gets missions that can be a bit hard, and are poor, hard to play if expanding historically

[vagrant stratus]

Hm. Yeah, this does seem like this would be that kind of game tbh

[glacial steeple]

germany is like, too OP

its too hard to see youre making mistakes

[fossil birch]

Italy used to be an amazing beginner nation but unfortunately when time limits and missions were added it became a bit more difficult

[glacial steeple]

ussr is large with bad research so relies on eco build

[vagrant stratus]

I wanna try my damndest to not drop it though, it seems like it'll be right up my alley once I'm actually able to get a hang of how to play

[glacial steeple]

uk, usa are just a bit boring but allies including minors are usuly safe

imo finland is good because it forces you to like, read stuff to be ready

but its still like, small overall eco and you wont really do big conquests as a new player

but its really any nation that just lets you read stuff, as italy youre kind of under pressure to do things i dont think youll manage

[fossil birch]

I agree, finland is one of the best minors if you really want to learn the game. Italy can be good to learn as long as you have someone to co-op with you and guide you.

[crude vigil]

I have tried to get the northern light achievement playing as finland but everytime it gets to 50% world tension denmark and norway have been capulated or joined allies. Can anyone suggest something?

[fossil birch]

I think Sweden is typically easier for northern light but I would honestly suggest rushing to try to become fascist as early as possible through a civil war

Time is not your friend

[crude vigil]

will try

[royal vapor]

that feeling when you forget to appease germany

[solar crane]

has anything changed in multiplayer for whats the meta doctrine for germany?

[inner sparrow]

in mp ger if ur doing tanks its gbp as main doctrine and sub doctrines are individual excellence, self propelled support, tank destroyer force, grand assault

[solar crane]

what if you are doing a full tank build, 0 inf after sudetanland n allat? and hungary or italy can be ur blanket of infantry

[inner sparrow]

the exact doctrines I said

[solar crane]

heard

[inner sparrow]

those are for full tank ger

[solar crane]

is full tank ger viable?

[inner sparrow]

u can also take armored spearhead instead of td force

[inner sparrow]

yes

its what u should do

[solar crane]

medium spaa or heavy tds

[inner sparrow]

heavy tds

[inner sparrow]

why would u do medium spaa??

u mean spg?

[solar crane]

ye