ask-for-help-here

[half glade]

i mean

i have a little bit lol

[finite terrace]

Their only job if is to find ships

Which is why you want a ton of small paoltrols in the sea zones looking around

[oak jasper]

I tend to use single light cruisers loaded with seaplane catapults and radar for spotting. I'm not sure adding destroyers is worth it, since the destroyers will slow down a properly built scout cruiser.

[finite terrace]

So your scary stack can come wreck them

[finite terrace]

I agree with you but I'm trying to keep it simple cause he's just trying to figure out how to make a naval invasion worj

[half glade]

ohhh okay

well problem

i dont have scout cruisers...

i didnt understand this subject

[finite terrace]

its not a problem, like i said thats the "ideal" youre planning for it from start of game strat

for your purposes it isnt a big deal

[half glade]

okay

let me make these patrols

decent strike force?

[finite terrace]

need more destroyers but otherwise yes

as a rule you need 4x the destroys as capital ships (battlehsips, heavy cruisers, etc)

[half glade]

wait until i scroll down lol

[finite terrace]

so id have at least 85 destroyers in there if youre gonna do all in one

[finite terrace]

i can see u have 42 destroyers

im just telling you its not enough

see at the top u can see the number

[half glade]

damn it

[finite terrace]

of each ship in fleet

[half glade]

yeah i forgot

why do i suck at making navies

[finite terrace]

youre close

just take destroyers from those other 2 fleets and add em here

[oak jasper]

Early destroyers also drop like flies, so bring extra destroyers.

[finite terrace]

yeah basically you are using the destroyers to shield your big expensive ships

so if you run out of destroyers in a fight your other ships will get annihilated

blah blah screen ratio for your purpsoes just assume you need 4 destroyers per ship hahah

[half glade]

okay

68 destroyers now

[oak jasper]

Against a properly screened fleet, torpedoes don't do much.
After the screen is depleted, torpedoes are pure murder.

[half glade]

thats it

i lied

126 destroyers

[finite terrace]

alright good

[half glade]

okay so

can i assign a strike force to multiple regions?

[finite terrace]

now you click the far left icon (over on the right) on the fleets to select them all

youll see all 5 fleets get highlighted

[finite terrace]

first things firt actually

you need to click ctrl + right click on a phillipines base or something

to set your ships home base there and get them over there

cuase theyre in Cali right now

see where it says San Diego is your home base towards the top, that needs to be somewhere in the pacific

[finite terrace]

nice

now you have the fleets selected, just right click sea regions you need to invade through

just click like the 3 regions around phillipines and north

might have to set the 4 groups to patrol first now that i think about it, but ultimately you just want to set the big guy to strike force

set the others to patrol

[half glade]

how do i unselect

[finite terrace]

and right click the regions you are invading through

[half glade]

i this good?

[finite terrace]

no they arent actually assigned, you just told them to move

just do this

those 4 smaller fleets you have

[half glade]

i think i did it

[finite terrace]

yes, that looks right

[half glade]

lets gooooo

okay time to move inf over

[finite terrace]

yup the colors mean you are getting supremacy so thats good

[half glade]

should i get convoy escorting on?

for supplies

[finite terrace]

if you want you can create a separate couple groups of destroyers to escort

[half glade]

hmm

idk

[finite terrace]

but theoretically if you blow their entire navy to pieces there is nothing to escort

[half glade]

yeah true

ill do that

[finite terrace]

subs are kinda bugged rn so they die super easy

so i bet your ships are just gonna start blasting all their subs anyway

you could consider levelling up your naval bases though

if u see that crate icon on fleets, they are a lil short of supply

if u see on the top you are losing fuel and will be out in 180 days

so id maybe upgrade a couple ports and import some fuel if u have to, food for thought

if you run out of fuel navies legit fall apart lol

[half glade]

okay ill keep that in mind

[finite terrace]

but since u control these regions you can either island hop a lil to those smaller islands north

[half glade]

can i state build in philli?

[finite terrace]

or realistically i would just hit japanese mainland southern point

[half glade]

also i had no clue the philli were a puppet to the usa in history

[finite terrace]

yup, they were and yes you can

idk if historically they were a "puppet" in the way HOI uses the term

but close enough lmao

[half glade]

i just didnt even know they had any relation

blitzkrieg bop just came on

feels fitting for the moment

we're gonna lightning war the japanese

how do i declare on japan

[keen hemlock]

you dont

you wait for them to

[half glade]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-yikes-flight-meme-gif-12822158462297009384

[finite terrace]

yeah you will get roped in (i.e. pearl harbor)

[half glade]

waiting

wow

i hate

waiting

[keen hemlock]

bro

[half glade]

when is pearl harbour

[finite terrace]

USA is basically build up until 41 gameplay

[keen hemlock]

u can be so op

[keen hemlock]

usually late 1941

[finite terrace]

December 1941

[half glade]

thats a whole 2 years

okay im bringing my army back i wanna stamp on mexico

nvm im democratic

I HATE DEMOCRACY

[finite terrace]

this is just where youre supposed to abuse how massive the US industry is

and make ridiculous planes and mechanized templates that roll people

or spend time making marines

[half glade]

marines is a shout

[finite terrace]

to get ready for japanese endeavors

you can make cool marines as USA with the AMTRAKs and stuff

[half glade]

decent?

[finite terrace]

yes that should destroy anything

[half glade]

cool

time for CAS

[finite terrace]

small consideration for heavy fighters as USA

since you need the range in pacific, if you care about that

[half glade]

lol

that production line is just

beautiufl

also my manpower

USA lowk broken

[half glade]

hows this?

[finite terrace]

that is ideal

[half glade]

cool

nvm bad weight

[finite terrace]

oh yeah, i didnt even notice

that is the ideal with engine 4

but you might have to drop for now

personally though i dont even like the self sealing on cas but personal preference maybe

ideally youre fighting in green air anyway so its marginal but it does save you some planes

[half glade]

noooo no more metal from france

[half glade]

i removed dive brakes

[finite terrace]

id remove the self sealing is my point

in favor of more range

[half glade]

okay

[finite terrace]

thats personal preference tho tbh

[half glade]

im changing phili into a puppet lol

[dim mantle]

does anyone know if there is a mod that lets you take the navy of another country in peace deal? i dont want to get the DLC for that
and i cant find a mod of that sort in the workshop

maybe a mod like that would be taken down lol

[half glade]

where the hell did my patrols go???

[finite terrace]

click your navy tab

[finite terrace]

theyre repairing it looks like, i would change them to never engage now that i think about it

i do that be default but forgot to mention first time

[half glade]

okay ill do that

[finite terrace]

if you select em all youll see theyre set to engage at medium risk or whatever

i kinda just dont want them ever fighting usually, just finding ships

[half glade]

can i set my strike force to always engage lol

[finite terrace]

yes, that actually is correct

because you dont want them to start retreating and ruin the engagement

[half glade]

good

knock knock its the usa

[finite terrace]

basically youll know theyre actually patrolling if you see the binoculars on them in the top right

[half glade]

my patrols are genuinely messing me up

can i move my patrols to a specific region

[finite terrace]

yeah i mean theyll patrol whatever you selected

if you dont want them repairing you can set them to never repair if you wanted, if thats the problem

[half glade]

idk man

does 1 repairing ship move the whole patrol?

[finite terrace]

yes, unless you turn on the setting that allows breakaway

i believe they will all return together by default

[half glade]

i managed to max infrastructure in the usa lol

[half glade]

thats what was messing me up then

i cannot get these ports man

[storm solstice]

how am i losing dozens of guns a day when im not in any war or taking attrition

[finite terrace]

your troops look like they are low on some gear (orange bar) which makes em fight worse

i feel like you can push through that just from what im seeing anyway tho

[finite terrace]

are you occupying a bunch of land

[storm solstice]

Italy ethiopia

[finite terrace]

open your country banner --> occupied territory and look at their resistance

[storm solstice]

shi i forgot to do no garrison

[finite terrace]

my guess is they have high resistance and ur garrisons are low on supply

[half glade]

omg

i think i did it

imxero

youre my hero

[storm solstice]

is it worth pacifying ethiopia. i do not care what becomes of them but does it matter if u dont

[finite terrace]

tbh im way too lazy for all that so i just tend to release them all as puppets and let it ride

but careful not to just release ethiopia as one massive puppet

cause then they will rise up at some point

but if you segment them into all the little ones theyll just feed you factories and you dont have to deal with it lmao

[storm solstice]

and should u attack greece and turkey in 37

justify WGs

[finite terrace]

depends on your goal but short answer is probably, you dont have to justify tho i usually have time to just go down those focuses on the right side

[dusty sandal]

these are a big ass issue you must worry about

[half glade]

ITS OVER

IT IS OVER

[finite terrace]

way worse once world tension is >25% and allies join

[half glade]

oh yeah convoys i forgor

hmmm

i want american japan

sorry who the hell invited the united kingdom

[vital plinth]

Hey guys

I’m playing USA I want to go communist and with Soviet fight rest of Europe

How should I play so Germany and Allie’s don’t fight each other ?

[storm solstice]

uu cant release ethiopia until >70% compliance

well F

[vital plinth]

Should I play the game in non historical mode?

[storm solstice]

its only good for memes

random bullshit happens like france declaring on germany in 1936

[finite terrace]

Hmmm, i swear i just did it in my last run. I think u have to do it in peace deal now that i think about it

if you full annex after winning the war then that kicks in maybe?

[finite terrace]

if u want this specific scenario you can choose what path countries go before you start the game

[dusty sandal]

just change and force germany to go monarchist (they'll fight soviets), france to go democratic and uk democratic in game settings

[winged ravine]

how can I unassign ships from a general?

[vital plinth]

So Will Germany still invade Poland ?

[storm solstice]

i never got a full annex. they just capped and went govt in exile

[vital plinth]

I want to fight the Allie’s nd axis powers as USA and Soviet
With the Allie’s and axis attacking each other 😅

Mainly also for fun navry battles ai is not good

[dusty sandal]

they shouldn't

[finite terrace]

oh okay, yeah thats the problem. basically you have a timer to cap them before they can go in exile via focus tree

[dusty sandal]

they'll create a faction with them

[storm solstice]

well im fighting the big greece

[finite terrace]

if you cap them before they do their focus, you get a proper annex

[storm solstice]

Ethiopia gets to come back??

wow

thats some bullshit

[finite terrace]

yes, they can come back if you dont deal with the compliance and get rid of Hailie before he exiles

[vital plinth]

Oh ok il try it out, the mod soem talk about got ai navry does it it make them much more competitive in navry battles and use proper ships ?

[dusty sandal]

no idea

[gleaming grove]

im losing civilian factories faster than i can rebuild/build new ones wtf can i even do? My production gets slower everytime and i can rebuild even less

[finite terrace]

from bombing? or what?

[storm solstice]

I a ttack greeece and the allies joined

Gg

[half glade]

how do i break through this

[storm solstice]

eisenhower speech buble

[finite terrace]

1. show me your division templates

what are you trying to land with

[dusty sandal]

tanks have -99% stats during amphibious landings

don't use tanks to land

[half glade]

what about my inf and marines

[finite terrace]

unless its amphib tanks and amtraks

can u just show a picture of your marine template

[finite terrace]

honestly should work, have you unlocked pioneers from special forces marine tree? that will give u more bonuses

also, do you have air supremacy?

[half glade]

yeah

[finite terrace]

im just asking cause u dont have pioneers in this template

you need to swap regular engineers fo rthem

[tropic seal]

Need better support companies

Flame tanks, field hospital

[finite terrace]

yeah ideally youd also have flame tanks and the like but tbh i feel like it should work without it

field hospitals good call as well

maybe add shore bombardment from your navy as well for good measure

but i feel like marines + air + navy bombard should get through whatever they have on channel for sure

[tropic seal]

Yes

[gleaming grove]

idk

[uncut narwhal]

just soley land with your marines

and add the support companies

should work then

[gleaming grove]

Half the page downwards is just destroyed buildings

[finite terrace]

is it from occupation?

[uncut narwhal]

your getting bombed bro

[gleaming grove]

yeah cant change that

[finite terrace]

are you occupying a lot of land? or are you jsut getting bombed?

[tropic seal]

Air force where

[uncut narwhal]

build aa

[tropic seal]

Where's your fighters

[finite terrace]

this can only be happening if ur getting bombed or if occupying w/o gear

[gleaming grove]

in the closest airport

[tropic seal]

Not worth the ic

[tropic seal]

Are they on intercept?

[uncut narwhal]

better than getting bombed

[tropic seal]

He has fighters already

[gleaming grove]

they arent even close to the frontlinoe

[uncut narwhal]

oh ok then he should use those

[tropic seal]

Brother I mean intercept over the bombed region

[finite terrace]

they dont need to have troops there to bomb you

open air map and it should be bright red where the problem is lol

[gleaming grove]

idk its not red

[tropic seal]

Click on the green region

I assume that's where you're getting booked rifht

Wait how are you getting bombed as Brazil

?????

WHAT

[finite terrace]

thats why im guessing occupation

[gleaming grove]

im argentina fighting aginst america

[finite terrace]

he could have garrisons with no guns

[gleaming grove]

well yeah cant change that either without manpower

[tropic seal]

Click on the airzone where you're getting bombed

[gleaming grove]

how do i know where im getting bombed?

[finite terrace]

SE region is where ur bombed, i just looked where santa catarina is

above uruguay

[tropic seal]

Can't you see the region of all the destroyed factories

[storm solstice]

So how do i manage ethiopia if i cant release as puppet

Ts pmo

[finite terrace]

left side focus tree

[storm solstice]

like i dont even want u

[finite terrace]

as well as the new king focus or whatever right below the middle focus tree after u win

[gleaming grove]

well thats like 90% of my country

it says this everywhere

[storm solstice]

can we do no garrison

[finite terrace]

no garrison isnt automatically better

[storm solstice]

i am losing a lot of eqp

[finite terrace]

in fact its awful if you have high resistance

[storm solstice]

and im only producing inf

[finite terrace]

you need to military governor if resistance is high until its not, then local police force is ideal

are u using cavalry for the occupation as well

make a template of just 1 horse

and set that to occupy, suppression bonus saves u equip

[tropic seal]

Cooked then it's Harrison's

Weird doesn't Argentina gain cores on everything

[finite terrace]

i can just see from brazil occupation u also have like no guns

[tropic seal]

Why's he taking damage from garrisons

[finite terrace]

because of strength bar

look at brazil at bottom

bar is red as all hell

[gleaming grove]

i dont have manpower

[finite terrace]

his occupiers have no men or guns

so understandably they are rising up xd

[tropic seal]

No I'm asking why that bar even exists in the first place

[gleaming grove]

so what do i do

[tropic seal]

Core states don't have a strength bar

[finite terrace]

im confused on the question, it exists to tell you how well equipped your garrisons are

is he braizl

[gleaming grove]

so i just "release nation" and make it core?

[finite terrace]

cause hes occupying brazilian republioc

[tropic seal]

No he's Argentina but he should be able to core brazil

[tropic seal]

No

[finite terrace]

hmmm

is there a focus that cores them he hasnt done?

i dont play a ton of SA

[tropic seal]

Cores are usually hard to gain but Argentina Brazil get a bunch of free

[tropic seal]

Maybe

I play a lot of Brazil not argentina

[finite terrace]

check ur focuses freddy, just search "core" in searchbar even

[gleaming grove]

i dont have SA dlc in case thats what you mean

[finite terrace]

well that would be the problem then i suppose yeah

if youre at max consscrip law, no guns, and no spy network to help with resistance

you might just be cooked i fear

[tropic seal]

Ah

[gleaming grove]

wth is a spy network

[tropic seal]

Do you have la resistance

[finite terrace]

understandable

[tropic seal]

Spy networks are for wusdes anyways trust

[finite terrace]

just exploring our options here

[gleaming grove]

so this game is basically just p2w?

[tropic seal]

P2 player

[finite terrace]

no, this would not be magically solved by a spy

[tropic seal]

Play

Pay to play

[uncut narwhal]

its a paradox game

[tropic seal]

Like all paradox games

[gleaming grove]

if i need a dlc for everything that could help me, how is it not p2w

[tropic seal]

Cuz you can still easily wc without dlcs

It's not like not having them locks you out of cooking

[gleaming grove]

its just manpower i guess

[finite terrace]

300k short on that will kill you for sure

[gleaming grove]

there is only 1 higher i could go, but than i have even less factories to rebuild

[tropic seal]

What's your garrison template

[finite terrace]

yeah lets commit to the full horse MP combo if you have army xp lol

[tropic seal]

Change it to one cav div

[finite terrace]

this is better if he fills it with more horses, no?

[gleaming grove]

1 cav unit only?

[tropic seal]

He has no manpower

[tropic seal]

Yes

[finite terrace]

yes but the suppression gained form MP means less manpower to garrison

you save manpower by making this bigger with MPs

[tropic seal]

It's overall more efficient

For him right now

[gleaming grove]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-TPl5N4Ci49ZQY

[storm solstice]

when do allies intervene in wars? 1938?

they just joined my greece war and capped me

[graceful dragon]

lol

[finite terrace]

tbh i dont have the math on hand to argue this but i am shocked by single horse being better if u have the army xp to full stack with MP

and then actually level the MP

[tropic seal]

As soon as you attack a democracy that isn't Czechs or Austria

[tropic seal]

One horse yeah

[gleaming grove]

MP is max

[tropic seal]

Assuming you're Germany

[finite terrace]

ill concede it since i have no math on hand to argue im just shocked by this revelation xd

[sand ember]

Are you mobilizing more men rn? Send a screenshot of what appears when you hover over the manpower icon at the top of the screen

If you're currently mobilizing more men going up a manpower law does nothing except give you more penalties

[gleaming grove]

so like this template?

[finite terrace]

no MP on the single horse

[finite terrace]

only MP with many horses cause of how the companies work

[sand ember]

ok yeah you're actually just out of manpower

you gotta go up a conscription law

[gleaming grove]

wdym ON the single horse?

[finite terrace]

i mean when u do this small template with only 1 horse

[graceful dragon]

dont put mp if u usign 1 horse

[finite terrace]

you take off the MP support company

[graceful dragon]

not worth

[finite terrace]

because it interacts with every battalion

youre gonna hemmoragh support equpment if u have it with 1 horse

[gleaming grove]

so like this?

[graceful dragon]

yeah

also

dont waste ur xp on changing the template lol

unless ur max doctrine already

[gleaming grove]

im maxed out on almost everything

all im lacking is manpower and now economy since everythings broken

[storm solstice]

should italy build refineries

[finite terrace]

i usually do on italy or germany just cause rubber is not certain unles you do sheningans like stealing dutch indies early

[graceful dragon]

whats ur garrison law

[sand ember]

i dont think it will change much if you're going from a max cav temp with mp to a single cav

[graceful dragon]

occupation law

wtv

[sand ember]

if anything the maxxed cav template should be better since it'll have lower resistance for barely any extra manpower

[graceful dragon]

damn

just change ur conscription ig

[gleaming grove]

there is only 1 more step for consciption

[sand ember]

you need to go up

having 0 manpower is worse than the penalties

and this will double your manpower

also you can delete some divisions so your resistance doesn't get out of control

[gleaming grove]

?

[gleaming grove]

didnt really change much

[graceful dragon]

wait for it

it takes a bit for the manpower to come in

[graceful dragon]

damn

keep the divs until the manpwoer comes

if its still bad delete some ig

[gleaming grove]

maybe i should delete some aircrafts

[storm solstice]

what is the point of making avionics facility

[graceful dragon]

they dont take up much

[tropic seal]

Radar

Axial jet engines are good but they come too late

You've usually won by then

[keen hemlock]

supersonics

also theres like 3 achivments tied to them

[signal fern]

Just wondering bros is there any alternatives to the 72 division method or not

[tropic seal]

?)?

Wdym

The Helly is the 72 div method

[signal fern]

Its an older glitch

[sand ember]

For manually controlling your divisions? Set flexibility to none in the general order tab

You get planning at 50% speed but they don’t move on their own

[tropic seal]

Apparently not that

[scenic nacelle]

I think a better name for that would be “planning exploit”

[signal fern]

That's not too bad but nerfs generals heavily

[tropic seal]

Ah wait it is that

Nb

[signal fern]

Mb

[tropic seal]

Mb

[scenic nacelle]

It’s fine dw

[sand ember]

Better than nothing

[signal fern]

Grinding Chukyov for 24 tanks is wild

Unless I make him a field martial

50% stats tho

[tropic seal]

We love inf only ussr

[scenic nacelle]

There is prob a steam mod that gets that back

[signal fern]

Probably but wait a sec

Will your field martial still give terrain bonuses if they gain adaptable

[scenic nacelle]

Oh yeah if u find a pre grinded generals mod give it to me

[signal fern]

I shall see what I can find

[scenic nacelle]

🔥

[tropic seal]

Who doesn't love slamming your divs into a mountain in Spain for months

[signal fern]

Probably not the best trait to grind imo

Hill fighter probably better

[tropic seal]

Yuh I'm talking about the Spanish war in general

Tbf you never ever need to grind generals in singleplayer

[signal fern]

Perhaps not but still fun to do for me

[tropic seal]

Like straight up never you'll never use those buffs against the ai cuz they crumble anyway

[tropic seal]

True

Fair enuf then

[signal fern]

Hill fighter and whatever the forest trait is called is probably best to grind

Xp = Your losses = Enemy losses

More losses = less xp
You can never push a mountain tile so likely not worth it

[vital plinth]

But how do I know which path is right to get the outcome ?

[glacial steeple]

hiii gamers

[finite terrace]

you just set them all democratic or whatever

if theyre all democratic they wont fight each other and will team up against u

[hoary glen]

Help me!

[slate cedar]

how do i get my troops to go exactly where i went with my cursor

[hoary glen]

right click

[storm solstice]

God no matter what i do my navy gets fried by RN

[glacial steeple]

no!

[keen hemlock]

what would be the best ships to build to beat the royal navy

as italy

[hoary glen]

Maybe try out shift to queue move orders?

[glacial steeple]

air

[keen hemlock]

navs?

[glacial steeple]

naval bomber

fighters

[hoary glen]

But Chile is threatening war!!!

[keen hemlock]

ok

[glacial steeple]

idk retreat and capitulate

[slate cedar]

thanks i'll try it out

[keen hemlock]

im going for roman empire so

might have to svae scum

[storm solstice]

i am in this situation where i cant naval invade uk because i have no navy. should i just go after the middle east now?

[hoary glen]

Feb 41, do you think it's saveable?

[keen hemlock]

who are you playing as

germ?

[hoary glen]

Germany

[keen hemlock]

yeah this is the desired outcome

cap sovs then usa

[storm solstice]

Gg now i have zero ships

[hoary glen]

You can ignore the UK and just go for anything on land. If you really want to beat the allies better start building a fleet now.

[slate cedar]

what is garrissoning?

[glacial steeple]

china still alive? youre cooked

[hoary glen]

I'll cap US in 2 weeks and then go to the Soviets. I have 50 Tanks ready. But only bc I have too little converts

[keen hemlock]

when you occupy land that you dont core, you have to spend manpower to garrison it

[slate cedar]

what does garrisoning it do?

[keen hemlock]

keeps resistance down and helps you gain complaince

[slate cedar]

thanks man so if i occupy land thats cored that land cant have an uprising?

[tropic seal]

Ye

Cored land is your land

[slate cedar]

alright thanks

[tropic seal]

Obviously core territories can still undergo civil wars

But they won't need to be garrisoned and they give mp

[slate cedar]

how am i supposed to prevent the civil wars then

[tropic seal]

For most countries they never happen unless if you go like alternate history

For others like Spain you can't

[slate cedar]

ah alright thanks

[keen hemlock]

pretty sure its only spain, yugo, and italy

when yugo gets invaded croatia rises up

hwne ita gets invaded civil war happens

[tropic seal]

And china I think but the PRC is a separate entity from the start so it's a little different

[light knoll]

is there anything i can do to stop the balance of power from moving as italy if i lost non core states (can't get them back for now)

did all the decisions i could

[safe robin]

can anyone help me understand the game better im not to good

[austere roost]

The most important thing to realize is that templates barely mean a thing in the grand scheme of things. Production and industry is 80% of your problem and planes are 15%. Can you at least follow bittersteel's germany guides? If you can, watching segl will help you improve a lot

[safe robin]

ok thanks alot i appretiate it

[slender lodge]

How to Get Good improve relations?

Max i can get with chile as Argentina is 71 points of 100

But i need like 85 or more to annex them by diplomátic options

[fathom thistle]

there is also a basic guide in pins of this channel

and some templates

[slender lodge]

@light knoll @tropic seal @keen hemlock

[royal gazelle]

so since its been a bit since the DLC dropped and i kinda wana start playing again, have we mathed out the single player meta for divisions+doctrine? or is it still the same good old faithful

[austere roost]

ncns completely changed doctrines

[royal gazelle]

yeah i do rememeber that

[austere roost]

but "meta" divisions are in pins

[royal gazelle]

cool so they either haven't changed or got updated

i was always a fan of GBP/infantry blocks with CAS

[austere roost]

doctrine is still gbp first and sfp second

[royal gazelle]

WOOOOOOOOOO!

[austere roost]

divisions absolutely have changed

[royal gazelle]

my goat remains undefeated

[slender lodge]

tú Guys

Guys

[austere roost]

now spgs/tds are way more useful than tanks

[royal gazelle]

oh i never used tanks

[austere roost]

for subdoctrines just follow segl's video

[royal gazelle]

i just made infantry blobs with support companies

[slender lodge]

if i have a strong army, will chile (im argentina) get better relations with me since they feel threatened?

[hushed vault]

what exactly are the doctrines now

[royal gazelle]

and focused on air

[hushed vault]

i just noticed they have changed

they removed my precious

[austere roost]

tbh sfp and gbp are almost the same

[hushed vault]

what does sfp give now

gbp used to be good only because of planning bonus

[austere roost]

similar to gbp except sfp gives raw attack while gbp gives planning bonus so gbp is slightly better in offense and sfp is slightly better in defense

mw still shit

ma got nerfed hard

[hushed vault]

no more 5% conscription

[royal gazelle]

hmm i checked the pinned infantry divisions but seems to be the same

[hushed vault]

and cw reduction

how much is it

0.3 now?

so 15% stats instead of 20% stats

flat 5% neef

nerf

[austere roost]

that's in large unit tactics but just take individual excellence for inf subdoctrine

[hushed vault]

if it s fine

i mean

special forces doctrines are untouched

right

?

[austere roost]

no

[hushed vault]

:/

[austere roost]

there's a new special force type

so new doctrine introduced

[royal gazelle]

what im curious about now is what air doctrine is the best

[hushed vault]

no more combat width reduction from mountaineers?

[austere roost]

always been battlefield support

[royal gazelle]

i thought strategic destruction was ocnsidered best?

[austere roost]

since goal in sp has always been to maximize cas damage because you can always win the air war given enough industry

[hushed vault]

middle one for single player, operational for multiplayer

[royal gazelle]

due to better air superiority bonuses

[hushed vault]

air superiority bonus modifiers are dogshit

[royal gazelle]

huh i learned something, and yeah i purely play SP or on rare occasion with friends MP but we always play as allies

[hushed vault]

u always get green air vs ai

[austere roost]

if you have air superiority problems that's a you problem, not a doctrine problem

[hushed vault]

because u dont make crap planes

[royal gazelle]

yeah that OG fighter plane always wins

[hushed vault]

green air superiority at max reduces 30% enemy defense

[austere roost]

this is against +4 germany + italy, ai air is just way too dysfunctional

[hushed vault]

and also ur troops move kind of faster

compared to red air

so when u have green air ur tanks can be slower

like 5.4km

u wont really notice the speed

[austere roost]

that's my tank division speed when I attack germany

[royal gazelle]

i always used to use bricks + GBP but maybe ill use the smaller one

[hushed vault]

idk what current stuff is

havent played in more than 7 months

im eu4 addict now

[royal gazelle]

yeah im trying to figure out the new meta post NCNS

with new doctrines n such

[austere roost]

new meta is just spg divisions

[royal gazelle]

i never touch tanks

[hushed vault]

huh

[austere roost]

that was figured out even before ncns came out

[hushed vault]

even if it s 3 width?

[austere roost]

it's not 3 width

[royal gazelle]

is the best occupation division still just 1 horsey with MP?

[hushed vault]

it s 2 width now?

[hushed vault]

1 horse because of convenience

[austere roost]

they changed it to 2 width and spg battalions require less units than tank divisions

[hushed vault]

only costs guns

[hushed vault]

umm

how did they nerf them

[austere roost]

25 horse + mp, mp on low batallion divisions is a waste of ic

[hushed vault]

terrain penalty?

oh wait

low breakthrough

[austere roost]

they didn't

[hushed vault]

nvm

[austere roost]

also both art and armor subdoctrines can buff spgs/tds

[royal gazelle]

takes notes so thats 25 width horsey? or 25 horse battallions

[austere roost]

breakthrough doesn't matter

[austere roost]

check pins

[hushed vault]

mp is still waste of ic

support is expensive

[austere roost]

it's sp, you can do whatever you want

[hushed vault]

to garrison a lot of kand

land

[hushed vault]

by this logic

i hmshould use 2 ic light tanks

inter warlight tanks

[austere roost]

yes that's the real meta garrison

[hushed vault]

cheap af

[royal gazelle]

will do

[hushed vault]

1 mil and forget

2 if u re bigger

[hushed vault]

did they touch countries in eu?

romania? france?

[austere roost]

they nerfed france

[hushed vault]

[austere roost]

france now gets subdoctrine mastery much slower than other nations until you fix it through focus

[hushed vault]

damn

so what s the meta now

early 1938 german invasion?

late 1937?

[austere roost]

meta is type tilde and then annex all

[hushed vault]

💀

imma head back to eu4 to colonize americas as france brb

[austere roost]

eu4 meta is not colonizing yourself

[balmy dawn]

Im still not clear on the distinction between Support ships and Repair ships. Can someone throw me a bone?

[light knoll]

its cheaper

significantly cheaper

[austere roost]

it makes your late game fleet slower

[light knoll]

france doesn't get rid of the debuff basically ever

they need to get rid of disjointed government first

which they don't

maybe somewhen in 1942 on historical

[balmy dawn]

That's about right. but when France gets rid of Disjointed Government and the other debuffs, they become a monster

[timid mantle]

can someone watch my screen and coach me

[tropic seal]

if a player germany lets france last till 1942 then the runs already cooked

[balmy dawn]

Truth

[candid mist]

What are good plane designs for poland agains ussr?

[balmy dawn]

Do "good" plane designes vary, based on use -case like that?

To me, a dgood fighter is a good fighter, regardless of who it's shooting at

[slender lodge]

I can’t get good relations with chile as Argentina because they have claims of a piece of land on me, what do i do?

[candid mist]

yeah i guess i just need a fighter design thats good

[balmy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/guns-lots-of-guns-i-need-guns-sure-decided-unshaken-gif-13799338

[hidden wren]

is it possible to release AND puppet a nation if i conquered them or only release

[balmy dawn]

What design do you have, at one time frame?

[candid mist]

im currently in 1937 but i want smt befor the ussr invades and thats around 1939

[balmy dawn]

smt?

[candid mist]

something

[cloud topaz]

im new is there a good way to get manpower im a democracy and im not at war and at limited conscription?

[keen hemlock]

focuses

thats really all ig

[keen hemlock]

yes

release them as a puppet

[wise falcon]

Are there any good American revolutionary war mods?

[viscid bay]

Guys why can't I naval invade

I have my navy on naval invasion support in the region

[keen hemlock]

you need supremacy

[topaz olive]

I cannot grasp how to organize Naval task Forces. In a fleet I have a task force (TF 3) that needs two more destroyers and one light cruiser, in that fleet I have a reserve fleet task force with 1 light cruiser (TF4) , and another reserve fleet task force with 2 destroyers (TF1). I want these three ships, put into TF1. How do I do this?

[viscid bay]

I have 75 ships, how many do I need for supremacy?

[keen hemlock]

each ship gives supremacy

or a certian amout that stacks up

you just need to have like70% to launch

wait split the subs up

they dont need to be in your main fleet

[dark vessel]

Is there anything I should improve? I am trying to win WW2 as Germany for the first time. Anything I should prepare for or change?

[tropic seal]

Use a field marshal

Supplies seem a bit low

[dark vessel]

does one fm work for the entire army?

[tropic seal]

Stability and war support are also really really low

[dark vessel]

I am gonna fix those

[tropic seal]

One fm can have five generals under him

[dark vessel]

alright

[tropic seal]

They need to be 100 or close to that at this point in the war

What are your templates

[dark vessel]

i stopped playing the game but I think they are mildly upgraded by now, they have anti-tank, anti-air and such, and my tank divisions are upgraded with more motorized and stuff

[dark vessel]

how do I raise that atp

[tropic seal]

You should've raised it through focuses and allat

[tropic seal]

Don't need anti tank

Motorised is worse than cavalry

[dark vessel]

i did, it was at like almost 100 by the time I was invading poland

[dark vessel]

ok

[tropic seal]

The hell? Hover over your war support next time you get ob

It'll tell you why it's in the gutter

[dark vessel]

alright

[tropic seal]

I'm guessing sunk convoys and enemy bombing

[dark vessel]

probably

i think my naval battles are like even with victories and losses

[tropic seal]

Idk hard to tell without the game open rn

[dark vessel]

yeah next time I will get more details and it could be easier

[ivory wraith]

this okay for late game?

[tropic seal]

Cannon 2s are the best

Just spam those

You don't need drop tanks either

[dull cloud]

I literally struggle to defeat Poland. Using motorized and armor divisions thru plains as my spearheads with infantry to cover the lines. Everything is supplied and I have air superiority. The YT tutorials make it seem like Poland just disintegrates but I have not had such luck

[tropic seal]

Don't use tanks as a complete beginner

[wise falcon]

Does anyone know any American revolution mods

[obsidian badger]

As in 1776?

Thats a tough one but theres probably one or two

[wise falcon]

Yeah that

[undone basalt]

Wtf

I'm kinda new to the game, but when I tried a germany run. I did the standard setup to 1938. I anchlussed and got the suddatenland. But when I asked for slovakia yugo denied it. Then france and some of the mediterranian countries formed their own faction. I was like okay, then I went in for poland. The UK was guaranteeing poland but i didn't care. As soon as I declared war, UK PULLED IN belgium and netherlands, which by the way WERE NOT part of the allies, and had no alliances. They pushed into berlin but I pushed them back a bit. WHY IS THIS HAPPNING

France is chill asf for some reason

I also made the Berlin Moscow axis, and italy joined

For some reason USA invaded me in August 1939

[tropic seal]

If you do ahistorical stuff the AI isn't guaranteed to stick to historical

[undone basalt]

bro wtf is this

Sweden is part of the allies

[mortal pilot]

i have 1k hours and i cant beat poland ur not alone

[undone basalt]

Do you think this is becasue I went Berlin Moscow Axis???

[mortal pilot]

yes if u go berlin moscow axis everyone joins against u

[keen hemlock]

Yeah I would assume the global pariahs teaming up would cause a lot of wt and enemies

[storm solstice]

doesnt ussr always reject BM axis

[keen hemlock]

In hist yeah

[storm solstice]

If i attack turk and greece together in early 1937 will the allies join

[pastel orbit]

Vro i have 490 hours on hoi4 and it isnt tha hard to beat poland.

[obsidian badger]

I fight alongside then betray megafactions with thousands of divisions just to feel something

[tropic seal]

Bro what

[tropic seal]

I beat Poland in my first game of hoi4 .. sometimes theyre joking though

Like the no one knows navy

[tropic seal]

No

Unless if you mean hist

[storm solstice]

historical

[tropic seal]

Ah aight

[storm solstice]

pls im abot to do it

[tropic seal]

Yes

[storm solstice]

so what do i doo

[tropic seal]

Are you Italy

[storm solstice]

Yes

[tropic seal]

Wait till Germany starts WW2 your main concern is Egypt and Gibraltar anywyw

Secure those before Greece and Turkey

[storm solstice]

But then my industry is complete Buns...

[tropic seal]

Egypt and Gibraltar traps the med fleet

[storm solstice]

I tried that ic ouldnt even get 1000 aircrafts out

[tropic seal]

Italy's industry is always buns

[storm solstice]

Im tryna get a roman empire

[tropic seal]

Minor nations cosplaying as a major

[storm solstice]

which means i fight germany eventually

[tropic seal]

Egypt Gibraltar is priority to protect yourself from getting harassed by the British navy and naval invaded

[tropic seal]

Just backstab them in barb

They move majority of their army east for barb

[storm solstice]

Youtube tutorial guys attack too without allied intervention. i tried and france soloed me .-.

[tropic seal]

Soloed by France is insane work

[storm solstice]

i didnt defend the border

[tropic seal]

Ah rip

[wise falcon]

Is the man the guns dlc locked behind the subscription?

[tropic seal]

I think you can buy it separately?

[wise falcon]

I cant find a way to

[storm solstice]

Can we naval invade romania through bosphorous

[coarse finch]

It was integrated into base game

So you can't buy it anymore

[wise falcon]

So any mods that require that dlc, I can just ignore the popup saying I dont have it?

[coarse finch]

Yep

[wise falcon]

Aight bet

Star wars time

[neat widget]

unfortunately no since the straits are closed to nations at war

[high basin]

If I wanna airdrop, do I need air superiority or do I just need to make sure there is no enemy airplane in the air

[vital plinth]

Oh ok I can try that

What’s the AI mod that many said makes AI navry much better or competitive?

[storm solstice]

So how exactly am i supposed to push? theyve taken 100k casualties to my 4k

i would let them in tehn push but because of yugo i cant do that

[keen hemlock]

superiorty

[keen hemlock]

cant really awnser that

some wars you just arent meant to push

[storm solstice]

yea i got through almost capped them but its mid 38

[storm solstice]

is forced labor a good econ law for occupied territories

like romania

where u need da oil

[keen hemlock]

if you need it yeah i gues sso

[native gorge]

Why is it in civil wars the opposing side doesn't have the original focus tree?

[keen hemlock]

one side is the real country

the other one is the one spawned

from the war

except for italy iirc

[deep pagoda]

Why the hell is my fleet stuck in the atlantic? I am not at war with anyone or anything. I still control the panama. Why all the sudden does my fleet have no access?
Second question, how do you stop the new ships from automatically enrolling into the fleet that I highlighted in the screenshot? It fills up that bar in a really annoying way as refitted ships/new ships come out.

[uncut narwhal]

because of the home base

its set in norfolk

click the gear

so it sets itself dynamically

[rose kelp]

anyone wanna play some practice games tommorow

i need to learn more

[obsidian badger]

"noob vs pro"

[storm solstice]

is having air cover vitally important to winning naval engamenets

[neat widget]

if you have carriers then your carriers won't function nearly as well without air supremacy

if you don't, of course it enables your enemy's carriers but isn't strictly necessary

if you are doing a naval bomber build, uh... it's definitely necessary

[storm solstice]

I mean land aircrafts

over the sea zone

[tranquil coral]

How to make Italy leave the Faction of Japan

[fathom thistle]

Yes u want.

Even better if you have naval bombers to soften the enemy fleet

[storm solstice]

i freaking forgot to make naval bombers and made cas god im such an idiot

[glacial steeple]

video gamers

[glacial steeple]

you dont have to engage, and it helps

[storm solstice]

and can u do without spotting cruisers? I just have light battery spam cruisers and 4 CVs

[glacial steeple]

bombers are cheaper

[storm solstice]

i save scummed so lets see what happen snow

[tropic seal]

uh

you cant

i think

[final estuary]

I made Austria Hungary and now Germany wants the sudetenland

What do I fo

Shut up

[dusty sandal]

Fight

[final estuary]

I got militia but I only got like 2 armies

How many armies do I need to uhh defeat germany

[dusty sandal]

Depends what they're made of, if you have air and if you have prepared yourself

[obsidian badger]

Naval bombers have been meta for cheap anti navy

Not sure about now after 17.5 whatever patch

[storm solstice]

my army got obliterated in britain ig ill just do barbarossa

at least i destroyed the entire RN

[obsidian badger]

But before ncns they were meta

[storm solstice]

w germany

[obsidian badger]

And during ncns but before warships of pacific naval bombers scared ai fleets to port

[storm solstice]

i genuinely could not push into uk

they had 10 sdivs on each tile

[obsidian badger]

U have convoys?

[obsidian badger]

F

what year

usually uk is hella undefended

If u landed in Portsmouth or dover its also not great

Like hull is known as the meta sealion spot

[storm solstice]

1941

[dusty sandal]

Get good divs to push (not infantry) and cas

[storm solstice]

define good divisions

that can survive a beachhead

and do u need floating hubs

[proper crescent]

Is possible to make a tank template that is good in forests?

[dusty sandal]

Tanks or special forces with enough stats and HP to forceatk successfully

[dusty sandal]

Not if you capture a port

[dusty sandal]

All tanks are good in forests by default
The penality is almost non existant if you have medium flame tank support company

[final estuary]

I have air I'm not that prepared

[dusty sandal]

Good air ?

Because bad air is worse than no air

[obsidian badger]

yeah thats meta

nothing to change there

[dusty sandal]

Swap the radio for light tank recon and stack breakthrough on the design

Also stack brk on the flame tank

[inner sparrow]

omg guys im nub, how play sov in mp competitive 😢😢😢😢

https://tenor.com/view/cats-dance-ai-cat-kitty-car-dancing-cool-funny-gif-every-day-gif-12905078427869347342

[dusty sandal]

You have too little otherwise. You need 200 at minimum to have a correct atk div

[obsidian badger]

recon is eh signal is pretty important so the marines dont just bounce off

[dusty sandal]

Signal does nothing there. Light tank recon gives breakthrough if you design it properly, which is essential to attack

[inner sparrow]

guys I need help

please speed I need this

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[storm solstice]

I kinda am not building any light tanks

[dusty sandal]

Start then

[storm solstice]

and should i join barb

or kill middle east (iran, turkey, etc)

[obsidian badger]

better to just make amtracs tbh

if hes just using light tank for marines then just use the ic for amtracs

[dusty sandal]

3man turret, flamethrower 2, best radio, armor skirts, extra ammo x2
Brk suspension, max armor clicks

[obsidian badger]

slap two amtracs on last row and it should be fine

[dusty sandal]

Not required and amtracks dont go in support companies

[obsidian badger]

or slap amphibious drive in his med tanks if he had amphi tank researched, which nobody does so eh

[dusty sandal]

You're missing the point

[obsidian cedar]

is the philippines blocked rn? cuz from the guide i saw macarthur was supposed to be non-aligned but the ruling party becomes democratic in my playthru

[glacial steeple]

hold the ural line

[final estuary]

What do you consider bad air

[glacial steeple]

beg the allies for lend lease

uhhh make 20 width tanks so you have more tank divisions

light tanks

[inner sparrow]

omg ur so smart

[dusty sandal]

36 light tanks for 100s of breakthrough in a div that desperately need it
That's nowhere near the ic for amtracks

[glacial steeple]

invest all your research into air to contest the axis airforce

[dusty sandal]

Bad designs

[inner sparrow]

@dusty sandal I need help, u have helper role, please help me with my problem

or I will implode

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411340678902055084/1456937165639651471/IMG_3662.gif

[final estuary]

Uhh which is I'm kinda confused

[obsidian badger]

im a light tank hater and ive never used light tank recon...like ever

[dusty sandal]

Medium TD and mech spam

The ominous TD swarm

[obsidian badger]

and ive been fine

[inner sparrow]

🥀

[dusty sandal]

It's essential for good special forces

[inner sparrow]

bro wants me to get graped on barb

[obsidian badger]

rangers

[obsidian cedar]

can I get help on the philippines?

[obsidian badger]

eh well thats doctrine changed right

i forgot

recon rangers is where now

anyways its good

[dusty sandal]

No breakthrough

Recon rangers are good but not as good since the doctrine change

[inner sparrow]

@glacial steeple do u have soviet guide, I need spreadsheet to win plsplspls

also why are u brazilian

https://tenor.com/view/marmot-groundhog-groundhog-day-squirrel-ground-squirrel-gif-5437333239513204994

[obsidian badger]

ragebait?

[obsidian badger]

vs japan?

[obsidian cedar]

is the philippines blocked rn? cuz from the guide i saw macarthur was supposed to be non-aligned but the ruling party becomes democratic in my playthru

[inner sparrow]

never!!!

[dusty sandal]

Unironically recent sov builds in french comp hoi use a swarm of 3 medium TDs on every tile
It cost germany so much to push that they die from dday

[obsidian badger]

so you want to be non aligned

[inner sparrow]

bc french server sucks, no offense

[obsidian cedar]

ye

[obsidian badger]

i never played phillipines

[obsidian cedar]

XD rip

[obsidian badger]

but go to whatever focuses allows you to do hispanic empire

monarchist so non aligned and op

[inner sparrow]

only reason why medium tank sov can work in comp is bc of 10/10 pregrinds but even then it gets obliterated by a good ger

[obsidian cedar]

nah, tryin to do teh macarhur path

[obsidian badger]

do that and you should be good

nuke path

?

[obsidian cedar]

mhm

[obsidian badger]

yeah idk, never played phillipines lol

[obsidian cedar]

F

[glacial steeple]

all factories on gun 1 until you get the amphibious tank chassis, then you can go 20% on guns, 50% on tanks and 30% on air trust

[dusty sandal]

I mean, try it. Sov basically can't push anything but inf but neither can ger, and everywhere there is no german tanks the massmobs get eviscerated

On HMM btw

[inner sparrow]

omg, ty my goat

[obsidian cedar]

thx for tyrin lmao

[obsidian badger]

amphi tank chas?

[inner sparrow]

brother I was on soviets when the first med build was made by the poles after doctrine changes

[glacial steeple]

its a hard nation because your mils are like unusable

[obsidian badger]

do you perhaps have a non aligned advisor?

for democracies you need an advisor to elect different ideology

if you do that you can vote to be non aligned

[dusty sandal]

The poles ?

[obsidian cedar]

i tried checking if i could shift thru referendum but i think this is one of the nations that are locked and cant change thru referendum

[inner sparrow]

katjo, pedzio and so on

[obsidian cedar]

tru

[glacial steeple]

i think he means the people living in the north and south pole

[dusty sandal]

You mean polish community, not a polish player right ?

[inner sparrow]

rb poles

the ones that nuked the french in the svs

[obsidian badger]

i have no idea what the clown is talking about

gl yall

[glacial steeple]

hes yapping

[inner sparrow]

its fine my little chudling

[dusty sandal]

Didn't that game require a lot of replacements from HOF ?

I recall last svs with a lot of players meant to play that had to be replaced

[dusty sandal]

Show the air designs

[inner sparrow]

Ik that one of the sov guys left bc he said game will be over in 39 already

from the french

but thats it

[final estuary]

It's the ones already in Czech and Austria

[inner sparrow]

doesn’t change anyways, the french are okay but they have too many mid players and only some good ones

[hollow karma]

What am I doing wrong? Could someone please help

[glacial steeple]

clown, back to the helping people mines

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347438129732386839/1355048327191986176/togif.gif

[dusty sandal]

Then it's bad air and if you're not producing air, you don't have air

[final estuary]

Aight

So then what units do I produce my industry is too bad for air anyway

[inner sparrow]

but being fr, med td sov is insanely mid, it can work if ger isn’t good or their minors and if sov player is better but u also need insane pregrinds for it

[dusty sandal]

Yeah, we have very few good majors

[inner sparrow]

just falls short compared to breakthrough heavies

[glacial steeple]

rb edits their ruleset to make heavies better smh

[inner sparrow]

ik, played once with zug as ger on hof and italy was very bad

[glacial steeple]

where is your army

[dusty sandal]

And a lot of good players just left hoi

[glacial steeple]

why not use mils

why no research

[inner sparrow]

real!!!

[glacial steeple]

why 5 speed if your nation looks like that

[hollow karma]

I’m brand new

I’ve watched a guide

[inner sparrow]

they banned disabling eq exploit divs on rb :(

😢

no more free stats and all on guns