ask-for-help-here

[rose plover]

you need a commander for 5 of them

like this

[glacial steeple]

what is he doing

[rose plover]

playing as peru?

[austere roost]

Also ai prediction is not necessarily correct

[arctic stream]

How do I do this tho

[glacial steeple]

not with that army most likely

[rose plover]

select one of your generals and click on the left green plus

[rose plover]

click the left one

and then you can add 4 more generals with right click on your commander

[arctic stream]

thx

[rose plover]

and than select only the commander for making lines, so all your generals automatically go to them etc.

[candid abyss]

restart?

i think i messed up with the fall back lines or my armies were just sht

i can reload again i guess i dont have iron man

[glacial steeple]

id restart

[candid abyss]

lol autosave is 27 days prior

kek

[glacial steeple]

you made various major mistakes

[candid abyss]

what did i do wrong

[candid abyss]

like what, i disbanded all the infantry bar 4 divisions once i started

[glacial steeple]

no economy because you never changed your mobilization law for it

[candid abyss]

the civil war took so much time

[glacial steeple]

then dont do it

[candid abyss]

ok i will restart

[glacial steeple]

go non aligned

[candid abyss]

boringgggggggggg but ok

[glacial steeple]

how so?

youll be able to start wars later on

as non aligned

its fine

[candid abyss]

idk i just dont like when the game tries hard against me

[glacial steeple]

youre not gonna do early offensive wars

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt

finland is very strong

[candid abyss]

like i wanna play this pathway why make it so hard running around one division each chasing each other like ducks whats the point

[twin kayak]

how do I produce the flamethrower tank ? I researched it but I don't have a clue on how to get it in the army

[glacial steeple]

design one

gotta give it the role

[candid abyss]

yes but the civil war was just stupid the mechanics i mean its who claims more land running around quicker

[glacial steeple]

where it says medium tank

[glacial steeple]

thats just how civil wars are with low unit counts

[twin kayak]

which tank chassis ?

[rose plover]

in this menu is an option with flame-tank support and thats what you want

[twin kayak]

I mave medium and light

[glacial steeple]

any

medium is best

but like any work

[rose plover]

china sucks for showing stuff like that xD

[candid abyss]

do i keep the divisions i start with or disband them and keep some only?

[glacial steeple]

i usually change them all to the inf

[glacial steeple]

at least it starts with tank tech

[candid abyss]

and not disband anything?

[glacial steeple]

uh no?

[candid abyss]

ok

[glacial steeple]

but its also because i know ill have enough manpower for them in time for wars

[rose plover]

ye but i would guess you dont really need tanks with china if japan doesnt play historical

[glacial steeple]

because the starting army is small

[glacial steeple]

theres no scenario where you need them besides recon

/ flame

[rose plover]

yes

[candid abyss]

finland is depressing

time to restart

[candid abyss]

? or add civs or infrastructure?

[rose plover]

how do i get rid of the corruption in the army? didnt saw an option for that

[glacial steeple]

you can make a land facility first if you want

everything else is irrelevant

[frosty obsidian]

how do you enable diff colors per nation

[glacial steeple]

infra is more resources per state and some build speed and it pays off in like forever

civs also take like 4 years or whatever to pay off

[candid abyss]

ok now, leningrad, i just move in when the war starts and shove as much as i can in it for 30 days? or ignore it and try to defend or what

[glacial steeple]

not relevant yet

[candid abyss]

ok i'll make it near swede coast

[glacial steeple]

just make it on helsinki

you cannot let helsinki fall

if you hold helsinki and 1 vp next to it you wont capitulate

in the worst case

[candid abyss]

ok, how many divisions should i build up for that war, last time i had 24 16 and 18w standard with 1942 guns

[frosty obsidian]

this is a dx11 bug apparently??

[glacial steeple]

thats a good start

your guns are better than artillery

and also units with more hp take less casualties so take note of that

[tired moon]

I CAPTURED MOSCOWWW

[rose plover]

thats a weird angle to take moscow as germany

[candid abyss]

well the problem now without fascism is that i cant go to war economy, i went to partial mobilisation and my manpower is still 0

[glacial steeple]

partial is good, it doesnt change manpower

look at the buffs

[candid abyss]

i rushed most of the military that i can now in the focus tree the rest are locked

[glacial steeple]

defense in depth isnt needed

but theres good war support stab and factory focuses to the left

you should get those

[candid abyss]

sorry i meant the conscription laws not the economy

[glacial steeple]

yeah thats an issue youll face

hire the 200 weekly manpower guy ASAP

[candid abyss]

cant

[glacial steeple]

also ban fascism and hire the guy who gives less communist support

also change your leader

in the balance of power

and play on slower than 5 speed because you need a lot

[arctic stream]

Thx so much its working

[glacial steeple]

are we blind

[rose plover]

man finland sounds complicated when i hear you talk casey

[glacial steeple]

you just have to read

same for every country really

[candid abyss]

kyostil guy?

[glacial steeple]

yes

[candid abyss]

ok

[glacial steeple]

your next guy is like

i hate fascists and communists

so you want to ban the fascist party in decisions

[rose plover]

why does you still have seperate draws with your generals?

[candid abyss]

ok who increases man power i cant find him

[glacial steeple]

you need to do your first political focus for it

[candid abyss]

ok i will look for it

sigh

[hoary glen]

Figuring out the ideal Finish path is super painful tbh. A good working one is simple I guess.

[glacial steeple]

well yeah but also like its a good nation to learn modifiers, good generals, solving deficits (manpower)

without much eco pressure or multiple fronts etc

[hoary glen]

uhhh. Idk

[glacial steeple]

or air / tanks

every other nation sucks more

[hoary glen]

too much green and too many focus ways

[glacial steeple]

ok so you focus on manpower

like eco is not important in sp finland

you have enough

[tired moon]

currently i am democratic germany who is fighting alongside the fascist british against the fascist italians who are in the comintern and the japanese

[glacial steeple]

highkey so tired of talking to people rn, cya chatroom

[rose plover]

i´m stupid and try to bild a navy with china to challenge the japanese

[tired moon]

and italy is in civil war

[rain yew]

I’ve lost my 3rd air invasion of britan, how the hell do I do this 😭

[visual yacht]

Idk if anyone answered you but brazil is noob friendly

[twin kayak]

are germany ?

[rain yew]

Yup

[twin kayak]

finland

[twin kayak]

yeah, I gave up

[rain yew]

This is genuinely hell

And I suck at nay

Navy*

[twin kayak]

the only answer you'll get is from guys with 1 milion hours in hoi4 and tell you that it's easy

just give up asking

that's what i did

[rain yew]

So I

Sob*

[twin kayak]

same

[rain yew]

Like tf is allat in navy

[twin kayak]

but no one ever took the time to explain it to me

[candid abyss]

what is this and how do i activate whatever requirment that i cant read

[rose plover]

i learned by starting with germany all over again and after i knew some stuff i changed to other major countries and then the rest

[twin kayak]

Most people will tell you to navaly invade, but no one will understand that for a new player, the navy is a really complicated mechanic

[candid abyss]

whats the valtion whatever

[rain yew]

I quit on learning navy 200 hours ago

[visual yacht]

Build fighters and naval bomber planes.
Set them on the straight.
Once youve killed the entire fleet, set your biats on a patrol order on the straight.
Hit go on naval invasion general

[pastel orbit]

navy always pmo i just spam submarines now

[twin kayak]

you might wanna try to get a mod/helper to help you

[pastel orbit]

with air support

[twin kayak]

but they're not really usefull for this scenario

[rain yew]

I lowkey forgot naval bombers existed

[rose plover]

the way i do to conquer britain is to invade italy and france (not at the same time) and take their navy to use their navy to fight the british navy and invade the island

[visual yacht]

Or skip all that and just paradrop in

[pastel orbit]

i was able to cook italy's Carriers by spamming submarines lol

i destroyed their whole navy

[rain yew]

I lost over 50 paratroopers to this through 3 separate invasions

That’s why I’m trying naval invasion again

[visual yacht]

Are you specced inti right side paratrooper doctrine?

Into*

[pastel orbit]

italy ai is always bad i was able todefend greece with 4 divisions even tho they had 13 divisions atleast each tile

i only sent 4 mountainers

[rain yew]

Ima be honest with you, I dunno how to get to the doctrine menu without the notification and I ain’t got the notification

[pastel orbit]

go to officer crops

and u will see how

[visual yacht]

Bottom of officer corps(last tab) yeah

[glacial steeple]

light attack and visibility buffs good

large fleet good

[rain yew]

I have rapid domination for operations

If that’s what u were asking

[visual yacht]

Idk what that is, right paratroopers lowers enemy troops org when you land on them

I forget what its actually called

[tired moon]

STALINGRAD TAKENNNN

[rain yew]

Uk lowkey got 13k dominance in the channel

[visual yacht]

And dont make shitty width paras, i make mine to match the terrain width

[rose plover]

thats a optimitive line to go, one tile taken and all your units will die

[tired moon]

There are a lot of troops nearby to back mine upü

[rain yew]

Omg

britan has 3.5k fighters on their mainland

How do I make stuff cores?

[rose plover]

you dont

[rain yew]

That’s sad

[rose plover]

only if you play a country that has a historical state and can integrate land like the roman empire, ottoman empire

[tired moon]

the soviets have 1 percent left to capitulate 🎊

[patent forge]

does my fleet need to be same speed to be useful or it can be like some heavy ships 20 knots and some light hulls over 30?

for a single task force

[rose plover]

can be difficult, but will always go as the slowest can be

at least thats what i would assume

[visual yacht]

Ya one of the reasons why subs should be in their own fleet

They slow everything down to 20km

[hoary glen]

That's your Gun MIO

[candid abyss]

thx

[patent forge]

i meant if I build like a super heavy battleship that goes like 20 knots while rest of my fleet is 30-40 knots should I make a separate fleet with all the slow ships and put on strike force?

[hoary glen]

It affects the speed of how quick you travel on the map so it matters for interception. It does not matter in battle as ships are considered individually there

[patent forge]

ah, thanks for clarifying

[hoary glen]

Doomstack = Winstack

[patent forge]

navy larp >

[hoary glen]

Do what you enjoy :)

[rose plover]

half of the indian army ded

[hoary glen]

I just did a sp game where I've only build starting destroyers with one more Torpedo launcher as Germany, just build them and engaged the UK in 1940 with my doomstack completely wiping out their fleet. Unfortunately it's actually that easy.

Navy is imposing bc you have a lot of options, however most of them are not good, so it's more like knowing the few things to look out for. Biggest issue with Navy most likely tho is that you can't fix things. You can't start building a fleet in 1940, you need to know what you want to build and when to from the start.

If you have any questions tho feel happy to reach out to me :)

[twin kayak]

yes, and that's exactly what I don't know

and what no one wanted to explain to me

[pearl tapir]

Hello guys, i am pretty new at this game. When i take over most of the european countries i am faced against the UK, which has a strong navy and soviet union, sweden, norway... I dont know how i would get to the uk. I have the la resistance dlc but havent got to make a civil war or something because it needs 20% fascist popularity and below 70% stability, which never got under 97% as far as i got.

so, how do i go against uk?

I thought about that strategie making a navale invasion but it never worked, i am making something clearly wrong. i dont even know how really plane's work.

Pls help

[copper mason]

What are the basics of the game I should learn in order?

[austere roost]

the tutorials in pin, and then try to follow bittersteel's germany guide

[austere roost]

euither naval invasion or paratrooper or just defeat ussr before allies dday

are you following bittersteel's guide?

[rain yew]

Why is my naval strike efficiency 0%? I have air superiority(English Channel)

[pearl tapir]

no, ill have a look thanks

[candid abyss]

Finland is unplayabe

[tropic seal]

@thin nebula what are the best naval subdoctrines?

[candid abyss]

1942 guns, level 2 hospitals, level 2 logi, standard 16w defensive templates, maxed out army and industry tech tree, throwing bodies at leningrad to attempt and take it for just 30 days, fail, get encircled like rats, 300k dead, no men, 900k soviets dead but it doesnt matter, keep throwing bodies gg

[tropic seal]

uh dont get encircled

[candid abyss]

hell i even spammed forts across the entire front

level 3 forts everywhere

on every single tile

doesnt matter, throw more bodies

[candid abyss]

is the ai stupid? like the field marshal ai or do i have to attach plans to each and every division and keep babying and microing 2 and a half armies across a front that spans miles

[tropic seal]

you have like 60 divs max as finland bro

its not hard to micro 60 divs

[candid abyss]

it is

[austere roost]

Ones that reduce visibility and improve sortie efficiency

[tropic seal]

then lower the gamespeed

[tropic seal]

you also dont need forts as all as finland

[versed rose]

pushing with small widths

you make 2 big divs and push with those

rest can remain small

[candid abyss]

it was a hail mary, and still it doesnt work, then you open youtube and you got dudes taking moscow with 2 divisions having 30 men and 2 donkeys because horses have frostbites

[versed rose]

yea too small

[visual yacht]

Also put supp arty in before line arty

[tropic seal]

dont use lien art

[candid abyss]

apologies, trying to defend against a nation that threw 1 million human beings to die in the finnish frozen rivers with 300 thousand men over 60 years old

[tropic seal]

youre also using way too many support companies

[candid abyss]

well what do i use

[versed rose]

yea, you're going to lose more with smaller divs

[tropic seal]

you dont need field hospitals or logi to hold

[versed rose]

that's how this game works

[candid abyss]

these were late, i started with just engineer and anti air

[versed rose]

but its finland so its fine, just push with bigger divs next time

[austere roost]

another inf

[versed rose]

pushing with small divs is how you burn manpower

[tropic seal]

stay with those and add a support art

[austere roost]

but tbh 9/0 and 8/0 difference is smll

[candid abyss]

time to reload, i stopped playing italy because UK north africa / levant was giga ragebait

this is just giga omega rage bait

[austere roost]

just play germany if you want to get a hold of the game first

[versed rose]

also hospital is fake on small divs

[tropic seal]

dude you stacked 80 divs in palestine

[austere roost]

i remember it took me so many tries to learn hoi4 because I started with ussr

[candid abyss]

ahhhhhhhh WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT how convienient the reload was just 1 day before

[tropic seal]

thats not ragebait thats just how supply works

[candid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-tweaking-tweaking-out-tongue-out-gif-7589464350113984305

[tropic seal]

if you stack eighty divs in a theatre with terrible supply they will perform terribly

[slender lodge]

do anyone know in which days steam gives discounts on HOI4 DLC’s?

[slender lodge]

Dont count spring

[austere roost]

we don't know but you can put them in your wish list

[tropic seal]

the only reliable ones are the seasonal sales

[slender lodge]

what are the closest lne?

[visual citrus]

Is this a good Infantry Design?

[austere roost]

no

[tropic seal]

emove the line artillery

and add aa

then itll be fine

[austere roost]

any inf design with line art can be improved by removing the line art

[slender lodge]

no

[austere roost]

technically if you are in green air you don't need aa

but ofc in sp aa is also the piercing weapon

[candid abyss]

well i didnt make divisions more than i could supply, maxed out infantry focus subtree, industry too, spammed forts across the line and still lost, next try i'll abandon the entire line and just keep throwing everything i have at leningrad and have my fallback line cover leningrad and that coastal city with an H, since the "sandbox"game is very sandbox i'll cheese it cuz im tired

1942 guns, 1942 arty

[tropic seal]

wdym fallback line cover leningrad

[candid abyss]

seriously what was the population of the soviets back then

[tropic seal]

a lot

soviets can take 30mil casualties before starting to collapse

[candid abyss]

i'll take it and just defend until 30 days pass so i can make peace

[tropic seal]

dont try to out manpower the soviets it never goes well

[versed rose]

iirc prussian path germany was the only nation that would consider adding 1 line arty since it was a net positive for stacking buffs, maybe it got changed. But yea in general line arty is detrimental like 90% of the time

[tropic seal]

sure thats how youre meant do to it mate

[visual citrus]

Like do i replace the Artillery with AA or add support as AA?

[candid abyss]

i didnt, i just tried to defend and threw 12 divisions to try and attack leningrad, they fell back, 2 divisions got encircled and the war is lost, 300k dead, soviets 1m dead and yeah

[austere roost]

the goal for art research is to build better tanks. If you don't need better tanks there's not much need to research non-aa artillery

[tropic seal]

add support aa

[austere roost]

real men use land cruiser with an aa gun

[tropic seal]

ic cost?? never heard of her

[candid abyss]

it's boring tho, just like trying to have a civil war and a fascist leader, spend an entire year runnign circles with a singular division against a singular division playing tom and jerry until one of us claimed more land

[visual yacht]

Is my understanding of large vs small divs correct here?

Small divs lose more equipment and manpower per strength lost, but have higher soft attack and org in TOTAL across a combats width (as long as you reinforce almost immediately)

Large divs have lower org and soft attack in TOTAL across a combat width, but have higher stats per supply?

[austere roost]

1000 mils, why do I care about ic? The only thing limiting me is the total steel production in the whold world

[candid abyss]

like i want to shape it i dont want to be forced to do the same thing or lose

[tropic seal]

then play germany

simple

if you play a minor that gets invaded early like finland

you have less options

[candid abyss]

and where is the fun when you just steamroll everyone

[austere roost]

small divs don't necessarily have higher total attack but otherwise most of it is correct

[tropic seal]

true.. steel is a pain ive found when building a navy

[austere roost]

land cruisers cost 20 steel 15 tungsten and 15 chromium for each factory

[visual citrus]

Like this or do i remove the support artillery too?

[tropic seal]

dude then dont complain about minor nations having specific things you need to do to not lose

ion get it

[austere roost]

support art is fine if you have small divisions

[tropic seal]

ive never made them in a real run lmao

[austere roost]

on big divisions support art can be replaced by other things

[tropic seal]

this is fine

its actually quite good

[versed rose]

not quite exact but close enough ig. Reason smaller divs lose more is because they have more org, so they fight longer. This gets even worse the more support companies you add as those usually dont add hp, but this is mostly right

[tropic seal]

i did an 18w infantry all majors conquest but i gave up in china

cuz 18w infantry CANNOT push into mountains

[versed rose]

smaller divs dont necessarily lose more men and equipment per strength lost, assuming its a naked 12w vs a naked 36w (no supports)

[visual yacht]

Right ok, i got shrekt last night in my brazil SP against USA in 1939 using 18w vs their 40w or whatever infantry they have. Adding more armies with small divs is better than upgrading existing to 30w right?

If i dont plan to attack with them

[austere roost]

kind of

if you can produce enough stuff it doesn't matter

but for brazil, you don't border usa

[tropic seal]

brazil shouldnt care about that

they have a massive industry

[austere roost]

do you mean guarding the coasts?

[visual yacht]

No pushing into usa

Ulasr run

[candid abyss]

its not that, it's just that i dont understand what im doing wrong, the first playthrough i tried to have a fascist leader and could never build the army on time, so i did the non allied or whatever build, lost miserably, did it again but with forts spammed across the front line to stop losing ground so quick and try to take leningrad, again failed miserably even though the divisions attacking leningrad had like guns 3 years in the future and were 1.5X the size of the army protecting the city. then you open youtube and there's a guy just not losing a single tile and defending everything with 12 divisions

it just feels borderline impossible

and im playing on civillian difficulty too

like

couldnt get any easiier

[austere roost]

maybe the problem is that you built forts instead of mils that produce guns

[candid abyss]

and still the playthrough gets ruined

[tropic seal]

dude dont build forts

[candid abyss]

i had enough mils

[tropic seal]

if you screw up a build you will lose

[austere roost]

lol you don't have enough

[candid abyss]

i had everything in stock

and no men

[tropic seal]

i dont know how else to explain it

[candid abyss]

i wasnt down on any supplies whatsoever

[tropic seal]

youre playing on civillian

[austere roost]

it's very hard to play finland

just play germany first

or usa

[tropic seal]

he says thats boring

[candid abyss]

i mean i lost with forts that are supposed to add penalties to the soviets, imagine without lol

[versed rose]

did you get desperate defence as soon as you went to war

[tropic seal]

land forts might as well nto exist in hoi4

[austere roost]

yeah but you are penalizing yourself with underproducing divisions and equipment

[visual yacht]

Yeah exactly so equipment loss and supply aside, creating more small division armies for the front is better than converting existing divs into large widths?

[candid abyss]

yeah i got everything that's recommended for finland, maxed out the industry tree and the army tree

still got clapped

1m soviets dead and they're still pushign

[tropic seal]

you mean just to fill the front? then yeah jsut create more 18ws or 16ws

[candid abyss]

i didnt have any shortages

[austere roost]

also forts are not as good as they used to be

[candid abyss]

the only shortage was manpower

[visual yacht]

Yeah for the front, ty

[candid abyss]

but ok

[austere roost]

it's very easy to pierce through forts

[candid abyss]

i wont build forts

i'll try again tomorrow

[versed rose]

i mean, we dont have the save file so we cant point out every thing that was wrong, but the images you sent looked like you were defending empty space

the north of Finland is useless

leave it

[candid abyss]

happened the first playthrough i made lines behind rivers and lakes and got annexed, i'll just go to sleep maybe tomorrow my head will be more clear

[austere roost]

also, 31 factories by the winter war is certainly not too many factories

that's like ppl complaining that they can't defend against barb when their ussr has 180 factories

[visual citrus]

I am NOT gonna invest time into trying to actually learn how ts works imma just search on google optimal Division designs lol

[candid abyss]

yeah the number might not be great but the point was that all the divisions i dished out were 100% equipped, i only trained new when i had enough stocked, i'll just try again tomorrow

[candid abyss]

yeah thats what i did and got clapped as italy twice

[versed rose]

that's how you get fed garbage 9 years out of date

[candid abyss]

three times actually

forget it and make templates according to your manpower and equipment

[versed rose]

or general misinformation

[candid abyss]

all you need is to know what combat widths are good i think

and to keep good organisation

[austere roost]

so you need more factories to provide equip for more troops

[tropic seal]

theres div templates here

[candid abyss]

the rest is just whatever you can do

[versed rose]

googling hoi4 is like so ass, especially with ai not knowing how to sort by date, and how effective things really are

[austere roost]

and figure out a line to defend

[versed rose]

so it pushes garbage into the uninitiated

and they go and use line arty

[candid abyss]

only that i dont have more troops all the men died lol, i'll figure it out tomorrow

[versed rose]

rip bozo

[candid abyss]

goodnight

[austere roost]

without expansion finland can't defend the entire line so give up the north, no one cares about northern finland anyway

[tropic seal]

wdym i cant use space marine divs to win instantly?!?!?

[visual citrus]

goodnight

[versed rose]

'are 7/2s still good?'

weekly asked question

[candid abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSrbWaEvq0&t=392s then there's dudes like this with half my infantry, worse equipment, didnt lose 1 singular tile, took leningrad and finished the war by 1944

lmao

im actually so bad at this game

[austere roost]

can you follow what he did then?

[tropic seal]

whats the best naval MIO btw

[austere roost]

try to recreate it

[tropic seal]

battle line shipbuilders?

[austere roost]

raiding, it gives visibility which is the most important stat

except for carriers which needs sortie efficiency

[candid abyss]

i actually did and lost, maybe it's because it was 2 years ago and the game was rebalanced or something

[tropic seal]

it was yeah

[austere roost]

fleet subs are op because you can get sub visibility to 1% so they're pretty much invisibile in the whole battle

[tropic seal]

dd being locked behind a war now is a pain

[tropic seal]

could you send me a fleet sub template? iv ejust been making lc bb and carriers

[visual citrus]

dd?

[austere roost]

just anechoic tiles and maxxed out aip engines

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[austere roost]

subs don't have much freedom in design

[tropic seal]

ight

[tropic seal]

everything else left on default level 1?

[austere roost]

max out torpedoes

so 3 maxxed out torpedoes, the tiles, and aip engines

[tropic seal]

is raidings till the best if im going for a fleet

or is it only for sub spam

[austere roost]

no raiding is best for all non-carrier ships cuz they give best visibility buff

[visual citrus]

also people are saying hoi3 was harder in hoi3 i literally spammed random things in the division designer and i won wars

[tropic seal]

what if i have carriers in my fleet? still raiding?

[austere roost]

just use two different mios

[tropic seal]

what mio for carriers?

[austere roost]

Iirc carrier mios are better but I haven't checked in a while

[versed rose]

isnt the only mio that buffs carriers the taskforce one

[glacial steeple]

raiding?

isnt raider for all

i forgot and im kind of out of playing hoi for a bit

[versed rose]

raiding doesnt buff carrier

[glacial steeple]

WHAT..

what about the uh

the mio that like italy and ussr get

refurbishment

idk if ussr gets it i lied

[versed rose]

no carrier buff iirc

its capitals which doesnt include carrier im 90% sure

[rain yew]

How do I check what ships my naval strikes/naval bombers sunk

[versed rose]

only thing that really matters to carrier anyway is getting the policy for +1 decksize and +25% range

[candid abyss]

yooo i got clapped again, how do u actually win? just throw everything at leningrad and defend it for 30 days?

[versed rose]

lmao i went in-game to look because this reaction made me curious, Raiding Fleet doesnt buff carriers, but Japan gets a special Raiding MIO that replaces the capital buffs with carrier buffs

also holy, light task force + raiding carrier mio is -30% visibility for carriers

[rain yew]

I’m using naval bombers over the English Channel but they have 0% efficiency, anyone know why that is? I have air superiority

[austere roost]

yeah they do but raiding is still better and you really don't get to train your naval mios a lot as ussr in normal gameplay

[devout jasper]

any recommendations on how to get started learning the game?

[light knoll]

no range? overstacked air bases?

[serene karma]

Send ss of airplane base

Click on the base

[rain yew]

The 700 is the naval bombers

[tropic mirage]

yuck

[rain yew]

I suck at the game don’t comment about it frfr XD

[tropic mirage]

YUCK!

[tropic seal]

do carrier planes automatically exercise when you exercise the ship?

[vital geode]

Not sure, but if they dont, I believe they can be trained if the carriers are exercising

[tropic seal]

yeah i did that

[last arch]

do you have any fuel?

i also can't see the airport size, its possible you're overstafcking (putting more planes than the airport can handle)

[rose plover]

the one on the right is definitely overstacking, the rest is fine

[serene karma]

Dont put them on port strike btw

Why do u think they are 0% efficient tho

I can see some naval strikes

Also you have enough fuel right

And u designed navs with enough range?

[rose plover]

think the left one has 800 cap and the other has 1k by default

so the left is overstacking by 100 then

[last arch]

i dont remember france having a 1.8k here by caen

[rose plover]

but i mean just build the airport up and its fine

[rose plover]

i think its 2k by default

[last arch]

maybe

i dont remember that but its possible

[rose plover]

not sure either, but everytime i conquered france there was a 2k airport on the canal xD

ah

the 2k airport is at calais

[rose plover]

this one is 1,2k by default, so its defintely overstacking if the ai or he himself didnt build it up

[last arch]

there you go

[serene karma]

Oh yeah dont overstack airbase too

[thick storm]

How do you beat hte soviets as poland? Whenever I try, they always hold really well or throw these giant doomstacks of divisions at me that I can't breakthrough. Any tips?

[uneven bay]

why am i not able to get this achievement if i am the dominion of canada?

[timid drum]

Would anyone be willing to help a lowly yankee figure out how to play America 🙏

I’ve tried YouTube but it’s never in depth enough

[civic hare]

since I have a non agression with germany can I just attack vichy france (they aint a puppet for some reason)

[keen hemlock]

Yes

[civic hare]

hell yea

[keen hemlock]

But they might break their pact

[keen hemlock]

Uh so

You can do whatever

You what

And be op

[timid drum]

you mind hopping in vc and explaining that XD

[keen hemlock]

You can build a full army group, full armored army, full special forces, Air Force and navy

[timid drum]

how?

[keen hemlock]

You have so many factories you don’t really have an industry tree

Just build infrastructure until you get rid of some of the debuffs to mil construction then spam mills and be fine

You don’t even need to build civs

You have tons of manpower and resources

[civic hare]

how do I stop my puppets from giving me useless expeditionaries

is there a faster way for me to absorb these idiots

[visual yacht]

Yeah lend lease them your equipment and build buildings in their tiles

[civic hare]

sad no focus that allows that

[visual yacht]

Allows what? Lend lease?

Can you not do it whenever?

The autonomy is easy to get rid of with civs, the PP is the bottleneck

[civic hare]

cuz ik alt historical geramany is just

you can do a focus and then do decisions to annex em

wondered if italy had something like that

[visual yacht]

Oh to annex, right yeah

Im not sure sorry, but the autonomy is easy to lower as long as you have 350 PP for annexation

But i agree, some way to auto decline certain popup requests would be nice

[keen hemlock]

just dont accept them

[thin nebula]

Imo its task force ship bulders

[keen hemlock]

but yeah annexing them is the only for sure way

[thin nebula]

Also you asked doctrines theres only one that really matters and its the carrier one that reduces time between strikes by 2 hours

[tropic seal]

ah aight ill look for that then

[tropic seal]

How'd you like my screen to capital ratio

[thin nebula]

What are your screens looking like?

[tropic seal]

light cuirsers with turret three spam

[thin nebula]

which light cruiser

[tropic seal]

advanced

[thin nebula]

ok then its good 10/10

[tropic seal]

i found out too late that turret 3 costs an arm and a leg in steel

[tropic seal]

really? i thought i was way under for screens lol

[thin nebula]

They dont in the beta

[tropic seal]

cant wait

[thin nebula]

It is but you have enough ships to not care

You can play the beta right now

[tropic seal]

ah fair yeah they just dfie before my capitals do

[tropic seal]

how

what else changed other than shiups becoming much cheaper?

[thin nebula]

Select it from steam

Its in properties and under betas and sonething or another

[tropic seal]

this?

[thin nebula]

Open balance beta

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

is there a list of changes in the beta

[thin nebula]

Yeah should be under a steam post

Doesnt make ships cheaper necessarially just makes modules cost no resources

[tropic seal]

aight

[tropic seal]

so now do i just put the best possible module

on every ship?

[thin nebula]

If you want, bit expensive

[tropic seal]

better than it costing 80 steel per light cruiser line

🥀

[thin nebula]

Funny thing is that the level 4 turret costs steel and the aa main battery (same as level 4 with aa bonus) didnt cost steel

Ive been trying out something where i dont fill some module spaces on cruisers and refit them later, not sure but i think its less time spent on them?

Since refit should be faster due to other bonuses

[tropic seal]

ah

[tropic seal]

in the normal game right? not beta?

[thin nebula]

Yeah in the normal

[tropic seal]

ah

well i can build a big navy to my hearts content now in the beta

no more being hamstrung by steel

[thin nebula]

Its like 30 per basic light crusier line so

[tropic seal]

even in the beta??

is integrated ops good

for screen doctrine

[tropic seal]

wait i cant find it?

[tropic seal]

is it mased carrier fleet

whys it red though

[thin nebula]

Yeah in the beta

[thin nebula]

Its -2 paradox is just weird

Goes from 8 to 6 hours iirc

Mabye its 6-4

Yeah 6 to 4

Also if you want go base strike as the main doctrine to get CAG night fighting your planes will attack during night

Otherwise they dont sortie

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[visual yacht]

Cohesion set to rigid or balanced doesnt change how the AI wants to reshuffle the front right? It just forces more steps for it to take to reach the same division distribution?

Only true way to prevent reshuffling is to have an overabundance of divisions already in that tile ( by having shorter front lines), or is the distribution based on % of commanded divisions

Also ive just noticed that shift clicking an FM frontline presents a cleaner to look at front, but your armies are all mixed. Compared to normal FM frontlines where assumably each army is assigned a section, which would prevent wasted command abilities since you know that army is going to be in that battle

I wish there was a mix of the two, sections with specific army assignments but visually only showing 1x frontline 😔

[slender lodge]

guys

why is germany AI so op?

[tropic seal]

its not

its garbage

[slender lodge]

like i had austria all militia bonnuses + 60 good militia (max supplies, good org, defensive plan)

and a 50% defense on core state & atacck

but i lost agaisnt like 15 divitions of gemrant a rmy

[tropic seal]

then you were doing something very wrong if youre playing vanilla

i usualyl dont use militia though

[slender lodge]

its impossible to lose lile that

[slender lodge]

austria militia has alot of bonnuses

[tropic seal]

if you lost then you were doing smth wrong

the german ai

actually the entire games default ai is garbage

[slender lodge]

it isnt

[tropic seal]

🥀

[tropic seal]

ask literally anyone whose played the game a decent amount

they will all agree the games ai is a brick

[slender lodge]

a brick that killed 60+ militia divitions using less than 15 default divitions

my militia was something like this but alot better

[tropic seal]

as i said, you are doing something wrong, but i dont use militia so i cant comment on that

[slender lodge]

with more national and minister bonnuses + good generals and field marshal

[tropic seal]

the ai is absolutely terrible at doing anything except feeding encirclements

[slender lodge]

its just impossible what they did

i have seen it alot of more times

[tropic seal]

try using normal inf

[slender lodge]

they easy kill +100 good divitions ussr with like 24 divitions

[tropic seal]

ai ussr?

[slender lodge]

or they just kill britain canada and usa with 20 divitions

[tropic seal]

the ai ussr is also garbage mate

[slender lodge]

it was a player

[tropic seal]

A PLAYER

AS USSR

[slender lodge]

like germany has a glitch or something

[tropic seal]

LOST TO AI GERMANY?

?????????????

nah this is actually diabolical

[slender lodge]

it keeps happening to me in multiplayer roomjs where some AI cant be destroyed

[tropic seal]

no

the player is just straight dogwater

[slender lodge]

last time i tried to atacck germany

[tropic seal]

it is genuinely hard to lose to ai germany as the ussr

[slender lodge]

i had +300 infantry divitions with max supplies (good template) and alot of good tanks divitions

but germany is somehow diabolical as ai

[tropic seal]

and they lost? we're playing different games here mate

[slender lodge]

i was usa

[tropic seal]

no its not germany is garbage

[slender lodge]

germany in my rooms plays like if they were so good

[tropic seal]

you can literally cap them as france easily in a non rushed playthrough by like 40

[slender lodge]

i think its a bug bc i cant even destroy them if its ecircled or something

[tropic seal]

what divs

do you use normally

what are your inf and tank templates

[slender lodge]

good one's

[tropic seal]

brother you cant just say good ones

[slender lodge]

i use separate

[tropic seal]

what are the templates

yes i know

what are your inf templates

and what are your tank templates

[slender lodge]

i use those one that pro ppl in this servers recommends

@francis

@franciscossaucion

[tropic seal]

send a screenshot?

[slender lodge]

well he left

[slender lodge]

im not on my pc gng

[tropic seal]

is it 18 width infantry

[slender lodge]

no

[tropic seal]

how wide is it

do you have line artillery in it

[slender lodge]

but its still stupid how germant can just beat my room

[tropic seal]

no germany is garbage

[slender lodge]

i do

[tropic seal]

then that 'pro' player had no idea

what they wre doing

line artillery is bad

[slender lodge]

well it isnt if he can just beat +300 divitions with like 10 divitions

[tropic seal]

its so bad that there are maybe only like a single digit amount of builds where its good

[opaque wing]

I use 18 w

[tropic seal]

yeah thats fine

[slender lodge]

its still stupi

[tropic seal]

that means the player is even more garbage if theyre losing witha 30:1 div ratio

[slender lodge]

d

[tropic seal]

no its not mate

dude

[slender lodge]

even with air superiority

[tropic seal]

this might be the first time ive seen someone complain about german ai being overpowered

[opaque wing]

How

[slender lodge]

dude you cant just defend this

[tropic seal]

thats my question

[tropic seal]

you can if you grow a brain

[slender lodge]

bc in my rooms they play so f4cking good

[opaque wing]

I complain for soviet ai being too op

[tropic seal]

you dont have access to a special version of the game we play the same shit

germany is ass

[slender lodge]

dude you cant just explain how germany 4divitions breakedthrough +30 miliitia with good supplies

[tropic seal]

ive never used militia. but for your 10 german divs vs 300 soviet divs story tahts some top tier bull

[slender lodge]

then my germany ai should've bad instead of killing europe with default army

[tropic seal]

10 german divs are not beating 300 holding soviet divs

[slender lodge]

they didnt even advance

its just impossible or bugged in my room

[opaque wing]

Like god damn it nsb and rejecting both hungarian and soviet demands as romania is so hard

[tropic seal]

your room is not special mate

[slender lodge]

it is

[tropic seal]

youre not paradox's son or whatever

we all play the same version of the game

[slender lodge]

if i were i wouldnt have those issues with germany ai

[tropic seal]

yeah i give up man

have fun continuing to do whatever youre doing

[slender lodge]

germany ai is made to win

[opaque wing]

German ai is ass

It literally sucks ass

[slender lodge]

then tell me how less than 20 german army default divitions beat up this (image) militia +60 divitoons with good bonnuses, good supplys and in defensive posture

also with core state defense (20% atacck 20% defense) and another ministers with good bonnuses

and they did it all with just some default sh1t diitions

[tropic seal]

hes committed to deluding himself into thinking that he isnt ass at the game

just let him be

[opaque wing]

Skill issue? Idk send vid

[slender lodge]

how would've that skill issue dude, its just a defensive posture where germany can do brekathrough with just infantry shit default thig

germany ai its made to win

[opaque wing]

Send video

[slender lodge]

duyde it happened like 5 hours ago

do i go back into the past to film it?

[opaque wing]

Hm

[slender lodge]

and it keeps happening on my forkin rooms

[tropic seal]

hes saying that the soviets lost with 300 divs to germanys 10 divs just ignore it its ragebait

[slender lodge]

dude that's not ragebait

i had a run till 1948 and germany was invencible

how is that gonna be fair

[opaque wing]

Yh thats js ragebait 💀

[slender lodge]

i swear for my family it isnt ragebait

[tropic seal]

its fair for any player who doesnt suck ass at the game

which is like a solid 90% of players

[opaque wing]

Less cuz i exist

[slender lodge]

dude that germany ai was invencible

even when 99% of the battle is on green thing ( winning ) it just cancels after some seconds

[tropic seal]

im bringing that number down too dont worry

[tropic seal]

you have no org or no supplies

[slender lodge]

those divitions were 100% full org and supplied

[opaque wing]

Omd

[tropic seal]

send a recording of this next time it happens

[slender lodge]

i will

[opaque wing]

First of all

[slender lodge]

and ill show yall that my rooms are forking bugged

[tropic seal]

some people just aint cut out for this game im being deadass

[opaque wing]

Germany rarely defeats uk

[slender lodge]

in that game they easy got ussr in 1941 and rushed uk

[wintry snow]

ur a troll

[tropic seal]

clash royale is the limits of their strategic prowess

[tropic seal]

thats what im saying lol

[opaque wing]

What did you play as

[tropic seal]

if he wasnt trolling this is genuinely sad

[slender lodge]

dude i alr sweared it for mi family

[slender lodge]

usa

[opaque wing]

Oh ur useless ally

[tropic seal]

how the hell did germany get a sealion with a player usa

[opaque wing]

Makes sense how you suck so bad

[tropic seal]

ai germany too btw

🥀

[slender lodge]

ok im done iwth yall

f4ck yall

f4cking idiots

[wintry snow]

👍

[slender lodge]

not believing my f4cking room is bugged cuz yall have 1000 hours at a freaky game

[tropic seal]

@glacial steeple erm casey hes bypassing the censor 🤓

[slender lodge]

go f4ck yourself yall

[opaque wing]

Oh what f4ck is banned

Sad

:(

[opaque wing]

I have 50

[wintry snow]

are u king von or smth

[opaque wing]

I did a wc as luxemburg

[wintry snow]

dont slime me bro

im a nice guy

[slender lodge]

tf is king von

@kingvon

[wintry snow]

its you

you are king von

[tropic seal]

smallest nation i did an all majors cap with was uh sweden i think

[slender lodge]

dude im hanzvonwolf

[tropic seal]

not sweden

hungary

[wintry snow]

oh ok my bad bro

i thought u were king von

[opaque wing]

Hungary is always a fun game

[slender lodge]

WHO IS KING VON

IM DONE

[opaque wing]

Austro hungary? Or u went for that 1 tree

[tropic seal]

i lowkey like romania even more even tho its focus tree is ass

[tropic seal]

nah fascist

romanias just funny when you swap teams

[opaque wing]

Oh thats somewhat impressive

[opaque wing]

U like romania

[tropic seal]

it wasnt too bad

this was before the dd change

so i actually had manpower available to go on offensive wars

[opaque wing]

I challange you to do nsb while rejecting both hungarian and soviet demands without joining either axis or commiterm

[tropic seal]

oh i rejected soviet demands it wasnt too bad

just hold the bessarbia riverline and watch out for naval invasions

[opaque wing]

And no puppeting hungary n bulgaria

[tropic seal]

didnt reject hungary though

ill try that next

[tropic seal]

bulgaria invaded me first in that run

🥀

[opaque wing]

I tried it a whole 3 times

All the times failed nsb

[tropic seal]

you can get together like maybe 4 full armies

[opaque wing]

Ye

5

But you gotta go fascist for 5

[tropic seal]

oh five? zamn aight

ah

[opaque wing]

U need extensive conscription

[tropic seal]

id play romania more if its focus tree wasnt boring as hell

its got like three interesting focuses thats it

[slender lodge]

ok im done

WITH YALL

YALL

JUST

INSULTING

ME

FOR NO

REASON

[tropic seal]

hi done im dad

[opaque wing]

We havent even talk to you in the last 5 mins

[slender lodge]

hi dad done im

[opaque wing]

🥀

[slender lodge]

YOU JUST DID IT RN

[tropic seal]

hes just trolling

[slender lodge]

YOU INSULING ME

bro

bro

im gonna cry...

[tropic seal]

ok dont cry here

head to tech support at least

[slender lodge]

😭 😭

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

[pearl vessel]

Is it possible to win against germany as a soviet during operation barbarossa when you have no air superiority,not much tank division and not good navy only plenty of infentry division?

[slender lodge]

yes

yes it is possible

u need to make their supply go down and start making more divitions

Also Make a defensive posture and wait them to get weak

and Accept all lend léase cuz u gonna need

Also move Industry to urals bc u rlly gonna need it

[inner sparrow]

against ai yea, even against players it is. It isn’t as strong as before the doctrine changes but inf battleplan sov still works

[slender lodge]

Clown The art

[inner sparrow]

the only reason why u might fail is not being good enough at managing your stockpile pre war

[tropic seal]

yes

[slender lodge]

Your tips are the only one that worked for me

[tropic seal]

tahts actualyl the best way if you arent good at micro

[neat widget]

special forces with 4 aa be like

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-arrive-cat-kitten-jump-bounce-gif-2199986893345488897

[slender lodge]

Any tip for using militia as Austria?

[slender lodge]

sup liva

[pearl vessel]

How can I lower their supply without air superiority?

[slender lodge]

When i enter the chat, every one that is chatting in just leaves

[slender lodge]

They will have logistic problems invading

[neat widget]

rip me

[slender lodge]

Cuz more land they move = more zone they need to pass through

i would say, cancel all your train rails in the front but idk if that will work good for you when they start to retreat

[slender lodge]

ok baby

[pearl vessel]

Actually I was doing good but romania somehow naval invaded me.i thought you don't need navy for soviet

[slender lodge]

borntofly u have been writing for like 5 minutes just to say all that small text

[slender lodge]

U dont lol

Navy is the most useless as USSR

just let them to advance and then resist

[neat widget]

navy can be used as limited shore bombardment

or to block off kerch strait

[slender lodge]

You’re right baby

i am tuff

[pearl vessel]

Really?

[neat widget]

that said

you probably want to focus most of your production on land and air

[pearl vessel]

Yeah but I got naval invaded by romania

[slender lodge]

hand = 👌
some = 📦 (something)

Handsome = me

[neat widget]

romania got a navy with 375 naval dominance? huh

[slender lodge]

Hey liva

As Austria: militia or inf

Ok

No answer ok

[neat widget]

yeah that isn't an easy question tbh

you can't add more militia in template

so it becomes costly eventually

[slender lodge]

i can add you in my témplate

[neat widget]

but on a battalion per battalion basis militia is better than inf i believe

with doctrines that is

[slender lodge]

yes

Why you playing zzz

[glacial steeple]

hi

[twin kayak]

I'm playing russia once again

how can I invade the uk ?

and why is belgian congo a major xD

[languid trout]

it cant be that deep

[glacial steeple]

probably visual bug otherwise idk

[glacial steeple]

hi liv 👋

[neat widget]

hi casey

[glacial steeple]

hru? :D

[opaque wing]

Shrimple

You got 2 choices

Either navy or paradrop

Both options work fine for germany

Oh wait ur russia

[serene karma]

francissaucisson?

What template did he give

[river oxide]

paranavy

[indigo sapphire]

how many divs should i recruit as estonia?

[dusty sandal]

If it's about singleplayer templates, it's either topzand's that's pinned or my no dlc template

[serene karma]

Oh btw

U play prison architect?

[serene karma]

He tried to ping u and say that u gave him some template with line arty

[dusty sandal]

Yup, a lot

[dusty sandal]

Lmao

[serene karma]

Ur a mod there too

[serene karma]

I used to play it too

Quite fun

[dusty sandal]

Yeah, i used to do a lot of community help on the discord since 2020

[mild oriole]

hi

[serene karma]

I prefer high security prison without too much luxury too

Idk why everyone makes a nice prison

[dusty sandal]

Still do regularly, but there's less demand since 2023 and since all the delays with Prison Architect 2

[serene karma]

Theres a prison architect 2??

Havent touched the game in yrs

[glacial steeple]

hii francis

[dusty sandal]

You can see my latest in the showcases, they're nice prisons imo

And yeah, PA2 was announced in 2024 ? Then delayed twice before indefinite delay. Last news was closed beta in january

[dusty sandal]

Hi, do you need help with something ?

[mild oriole]

Oh sorry, I didn't realise I was in the ask for help channel ^^ My mistake.

[dusty sandal]

No worries, we just did general chat too, I just assumed you didn't dare interrupt us as is often the case

[winged ravine]

why this guy is capable of leading 72 divisions? is this normal?

[dusty sandal]

Garrison orders triple generals capacity

[winged ravine]

defend area and garrison not the same, I thought

[dusty sandal]

You have frontlines, fallback lines, invasion (naval or paradrop) and garrison. The zoned one is garrison but can be used as an alternative frontline with the new "border" setting

[winged ravine]

thank you🍻

[unreal prism]

I have 100hours on the game and my devisions always suck. what are the best tank devision template?

[random shell]

I have scowered the internet for guides on how new navy works, but there is still absolutely no info on new carrier stances. Does anybody know what stances ACTUALLY do? What do naval bombers do when they are in 50% defensive sortie? In my tests it simply reduces their damage by 50% compared to 100% aggressive. Fighters obviously try to shoot down enemy planes while in offensive stance. But do they try to disrupt in offensive or defensive stance? Do they try to escort your bombers while in defensive stance?

[tropic seal]

check pins

[unreal prism]

?

[dusty sandal]

Did I miss something ? What's all this about stances ??

[dusty sandal]

Pinned messages

[tropic seal]

the pinned messages in this channel

[daring gorge]

why do people in mp use alot of line artillery but in solo its stupid?

[unreal prism]

Alr

[uncut narwhal]

is it vanilla mp?

[tropic seal]

just treat mp as a different game from sp there are many many things that are good in mp that arent in sp

[unreal prism]

thx I found it

[tropic seal]

most of the reasoning boils down to that players arent stupid

[daring gorge]

ive been watchuing ppl like bokoen and dankus so idk what mod they use

[dusty sandal]

If people use line arty in mp, they probably use it in sp too

And while's it's not great in singleplayer, line arty in mp is abysmal dogshit

[tropic seal]

bokoen uses a custom mod

not vanilla

[uncut narwhal]

they play modded mp not vanilla

mods like tfb or smth

[daring gorge]

so line artillery works differently?

[tropic seal]

everything in his mod works diferently i think

[dusty sandal]

Line arty isn't good, and it gets worse in multiplayer

[tropic seal]

i havent taken a look at it in depth

[uncut narwhal]

a lot of stuff is different

than vanilla in there mods

especially combat width

in most pvp mods its 30w

like hearts of oak

iirc

[dusty sandal]

No, it's just worse in mp because when you're fighting good builds line arty gets blasted off like nothing
AI is awful at the game so basically anything can work against it

[daring gorge]

i get it bro im talking about the modded versions

[dusty sandal]

Line arty in mp, if not played between new players only, will be an insane waste of equipment and resources
In singleplayer it'll just be "meh"

[tropic seal]

how are we meant to give an answer when every mod is different

line art is good in some mods trash in others

[visual citrus]

Is this a good Tank Division Design?

[daring gorge]

i donot think so

[dusty sandal]

Oh mb

Then yeah,in TFB (bo's mod) arty is very different. Higher stats, lower combat width and infantry can hold its own against tanks, unlike vanilla

[tropic seal]

no

[dusty sandal]

No, check the pinned messages

[tropic seal]

everthing is wrong

[daring gorge]

so its just weird mods in vanilla line arty is still shit

[visual citrus]

😭

[tropic seal]

yes

[tropic seal]

check the pins for a template

[glacial steeple]

hi derpy

[tropic seal]

hallo

howz ur day

[dusty sandal]

It's mods yeah
But TFB is probably one of the best multiplayer mod out there with PMFU (FFU now) and Oak2

[glacial steeple]

bad

i was gonna shower but there is just no warm water

[tropic seal]

tank the cold shower?

[glacial steeple]

thats awful

[daring gorge]

is there any way to ignore special forces cap in vanilla?

[glacial steeple]

yes

[tropic seal]

lmfao fair enough

[tropic seal]

yeah

[daring gorge]

how

[tropic seal]

create 2 templates

one put a single infantry div in it

2 width

the other put as many as possible

train like a bajillion of the 2 width templates

deploy them

[dusty sandal]

Water in a boiling pot, then with a laden (then big spoon used to serve meals)

[daring gorge]

as many regular inf?

[tropic seal]

yes

train a bajillion of the 2w

deploy

convert them into the brick of inf div spam

[daring gorge]

and then convert into special forces

[tropic seal]

then boon special forces cap raised significantly

yes

dont train special forces you wont have the mp

you have to convert

[inner sparrow]

just train 1k-2k 2w inf divs and then swap them to the biggest template u habe

[glacial steeple]

hi clownboy

[inner sparrow]

the more mp your army has in theory, the bigger ur cap

[daring gorge]

and then i js leave them like that?

[glacial steeple]

no? just about batallions not about manpower

[daring gorge]

isnt that a big waste of stuff

[visual citrus]

I tried to watch vids but i just realized the vid i watched was 2 years old 😭

[inner sparrow]

no, u change as many divs as u need to special forces and delete the rest

[daring gorge]

ohhhh

thats cool

[inner sparrow]

yeah batallions are mp tho like

same thing

[glacial steeple]

no

[daring gorge]

btw is a full brick of mountaineers a good idea

[glacial steeple]

they dont need manpower

[inner sparrow]

if u up batallions u up mp in theory aswell

[inner sparrow]

yes ofc

as I said

?????

[glacial steeple]

?????????

its unrelated to manpower

or equipment

[inner sparrow]

yes

but it’s easier describing it like that

[daring gorge]

?