ask-for-help-here

[tropic seal]

Who did you lose them to??

[thin nebula]

Yeah positioning bonus is a hell of a drug

[candid abyss]

Russians, fr*nch and in africa too the levant is for some reason very hard to conquer i threw 80 divisions at palestine and 700 planes the british are still resisting with 35 divisions

[tropic seal]

Probably supply

[candid abyss]

although the 80 divisions are mostly from forces i borrowed from my puppete

[tropic seal]

I wiped out like sixty Japanese ships in one battle with only one cruiser lost

It's insane

[candid abyss]

how do i increase it i tried constructing railways from supply hubs to the front line

they're all still struggling with supplies

[thin nebula]

Lost a cruiser? Ngmi

[tropic seal]

Mb

How do admiral traits work

I don't know what's good and what's bad

[tropic seal]

Railways don't do anything

[thin nebula]

Fleet protector is the most important one

[tropic seal]

They just increase the capxoct of supply hubs

If you construct a railway to nowhere it does nothing

[tropic seal]

Ah aight

[candid abyss]

so what upgrade the supply hubs in suez and alexandria?

or construct new ones next to the front line

[tropic seal]

Both work but constructing supply hubs is expensive

[candid abyss]

ok thanks

[thin nebula]

superior tactician is good, air controller

You can farm all of them by convoy raiding

[tropic seal]

Also what fleet settings do I use? I've been using always engage and never repair and I just repair manually

[thin nebula]

Thats the one

[tropic seal]

Ah aight

[thin nebula]

Destroyer leader and cruiser captain are good too

makes cruisers do more damage and destroyers harder to hit

[grand iris]

is it better to do subs or destroyers if i play a country that basically doesnt start with navy?

And which one better for the naval invasion dominance thingy

whatever it is

[candid abyss]

how do i end this front im tired i need to get on with it i've lost so much time and men on it, they're still stalled and its because of supplies idk how to fix it

[grand iris]

is bro just smashing his troops with battleplanning or whateer the button was

There aint much supply in N-africa

[candid abyss]

each general is assigned to the front line but each one has a different route, the tank divisions have their offensive lines assigned to the desert and city, the mountaineers to the mountains of jordan etc but they're all stalled and i need to end the british presence in there to forget about protecting the suez canal and turn my attention elsewhere

[grand iris]

You have so many divisions that it cannot supply all of them efficiently, and make sure you arent getting convoy raided

[candid abyss]

the med is all controlled by me

[grand iris]

just try to cut them off from their supply hubs and you should be fine ig?

[candid abyss]

so start microing the tanks and maybe 3 or 4 mountaineers to take these?

[grand iris]

have you thought of doing a small naval invasion behind those vichy units in libya?

[candid abyss]

im not worried about vichy i'll march through it easily i need the levant gone

[grand iris]

is syria in the war?

[candid abyss]

iraq is doing the heavy lifting

UK is genuinely slapping me so hard in africa im tired

[grand iris]

do you have intel if syria has port guards on the coast? Could you possibly be able to do naval invasion and take the supply hub north of jerusalem?

[candid abyss]

the naval base in tel aviv?

[thin nebula]

Neither, you need dominance to invade and destroyers are going to get crapped on by real ships

[grand iris]

you wont land in tell aviv there is 11 divisions on a port

[thin nebula]

Give your troops equipment

[rigid bay]

How do I get more Manpower I'm new to the game cuz im always stuck at 0

[candid abyss]

how bruhhh my logi is 100, they just wont get supploes

[grand iris]

upgrade conscription law

[thin nebula]

Equipmeny

They dont have guns

Its not a supply issue

[grand iris]

show your stockpile

[candid abyss]

oh wait

[grand iris]

no the tab where you see how many guns etcc

do you even have guns for your dudes

[thin nebula]

Right under that

[thin nebula]

-42k guns 💀

[grand iris]

there is the reason

[thin nebula]

More gun production comrade

They are fighting with sticks and stones

[candid abyss]

so how do i fix it, i thought they all had guns and when i upgrade they all keep their guns and upgrade whenever available

i didnt think they just burn the old guns and go throw rocks

[thin nebula]

You lose guns when attritioning

You attrition during combat

[candid abyss]

what does that mean

[grand iris]

firstly put guns on the top so it reaches max efficiency faster

[glacial steeple]

you also lose from combat

[thin nebula]

Respec for the navymaxxing tho

[glacial steeple]

you dont have infinite weapons

[candid abyss]

yeah like these divisions were in europe i didnt fight much, i sent down my main divisions when i was stalled, so lets say they have a carbine, when i upgrade it, they dont throw those carbines away and instead use them then upgrade when its possible

[grand iris]

you should build more mils and more gun production, dont push if you dont have equipment

[candid abyss]

turns out they just disappear and they new more guns

[thin nebula]

If you go to the stockpile tab which is right under logistics fufillment you'll see hoe many guns you're losing a day

[candid abyss]

so assign the frontlines and stop pushing until i make more stuff?

[thin nebula]

You used up all the old ones fighting

[grand iris]

and you will also see how many days it takes to be on + again

[thin nebula]

Stop fighting with your troops. You're losing 800 guns a day

[grand iris]

losing 800 guns producing 100, well thats a real achiement

[thin nebula]

Put more factories on guns too if you have the steel for it

[candid abyss]

so just assign the fronlines and lay back for now?

[thin nebula]

Yeah

Just let them defend

Try not to overstack troops like in the palestine picture

low supply causes attrition too

Also you probably have national spirits that give -factory output iirc

[scenic nacelle]

230 trains?

God damn

[candid abyss]

ran into a bit of a logi problem earlier

[candid abyss]

ok i will

[tropic seal]

Just draw a fallback like behind a river

And ignore it

Line

[glacial steeple]

no

[candid abyss]

also thers another problem

[glacial steeple]

old weapons go to other units/stockpiles

you just are in a deficit

so you have no stockpile

[candid abyss]

-46 coal and theres no one to import from

and only 1 civ empty i think

https://tenor.com/view/flight-laughing-flight-flightreacts-funny-laughing-gif-17836958681365484113

[hidden robin]

Did the latest patch fix submarines?

[karmic lintel]

why cant i see my prductin ?

[hidden robin]

Wdym?

Specifically

[karmic lintel]

i got 2 mills on guns

[hidden robin]

Oh damn wth

[hidden robin]

😭

Average paradox hotfix tbf

[hidden robin]

Maybe try clicking on all the little doodads on the production menu, short of that maybe a restart?

[candid abyss]

ok chat... i have officialy ran out of fuel

im gonna replay this one again

[karmic lintel]

i did

[hidden robin]

They borked it then

I'm still waiting to hear that subs aren't useless anymore after they 'fixed' them too so we're in similar boats

[karmic lintel]

ther ass

giv no supreamesy

[hidden robin]

They get insta wiped in like 2 months max by any ai navy no matter tech level or design

[candid abyss]

now, is making templates like these worth it even supplies wise? because im spread so thin this playthrough im out of oil, coal, civs, everything should i stop at certain models of rifles / tanks / planes and stop producing?

it's been a nightmare

[thin nebula]

What was wrong with them?

[hidden robin]

^ this @thin nebula

They 'fixed' submarine detection so now no matter how well designed they are they will always get wiped in a few weeks - 2 months ≈

[candid abyss]

also how do grind as much army xp as possible to stop switching out templates or making new ones so late near the war

[hidden robin]

https://youtu.be/VUfGyoiAxG8?is=A6gzKatKZ3ASSLtM

[thin nebula]

I didnt have an issue on the newest beta, are you using them in deep ocean?

Like they're way easier to have planes spot now ig

Ok that guy is an idiot

He was convoy raiding in the english channel

[hidden robin]

I haven't played since this issue started because my playthroughs are very navy focused generally

[thin nebula]

The ai will put planes out to naval bomb there

[hidden robin]

Yes I know that was for an example in the video this can be replicated in deep oceans/any other terrain

At any weather/time of day

Idk about in the current beta but in the live version this is a very present issue afaik

[thin nebula]

I mean it doesnt seem like an issue

we also dont know the design he used either

Could be basic subs with no schnorkel

[hidden robin]

He showed it in the video

[thin nebula]

Ah i didnt watch that far ig

[hidden robin]

Also a pdx dev has confirmed the issue on the hoi4 reddit

[thin nebula]

I didnt notice this issue tbh

[hidden robin]

And claims to be investigating

[thin nebula]

Idk i dont see the issue, hes using cruiser subs in the wrong places

And the UK starts with level 1 sonar so

[hidden robin]

^ and against any tech level

[wicked whale]

yo im looking for somebody that can teach me how to play the game i know some like really basic shit but i want to learn to play game and be good at it if somebody can help me with that

[twin kayak]

why are the truck factories red ?

[hidden robin]

They're damaged and being repaired. Check your construction tab

[glacial steeple]

theyre bombed, damaged

[arctic aspen]

Hiw do you get sweden to join your faction as finland?

[void nacelle]

for naval combat and transportaton, is there an easy way to deafeat england/USA's navy and gain naval dominace.

[fathom thistle]

Carrier + Torpedo destroyer combo/ Shhb + torpedo destroyer. You get carriers faster.

But if you have patience shbb is worth it

[wicked whale]

yo im looking for somebody that can teach me how to play the game i know some like really basic shit but i want to learn to play game and be good at it if somebody can help me with that

[thin nebula]

Yeah fight them where their force isnt very strong

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/WCqXIRRVZIY?si=cKRaDrZDM-yRbBj1

[wicked whale]

crazy how you need to sit on you ass and watch a 1 hour yt toutorial just to play a game

fk

[keen hemlock]

you could watch this too https://youtu.be/_lhOueDAB5o?si=GPkoblGZ6LNBB42w

[candid abyss]

is the intelligence worth it? (italy)

[keen hemlock]

you get a free agency from your focus tree

after that id prolly only do cryptology untill i get more civs

[glacial steeple]

YES

COLLABS ARE THE GOAT

[candid abyss]

ok how do i use it because last playthrough i just ran counter intel and i tried infiltrating the british army and navy and stole blueprints both times and all i got was some army xp

[keen hemlock]

make an intel netowrk

then you make a collab

it makes whoever you make the collab on capitulate sooner and i think it gives compliance

you need 2 spies to do a collab so you will either need 5 agency upgrades, a focus that gives you extra slots, or an advisor

[candid abyss]

so as italy make collabs on whoever im at war with?

UK for example

[keen hemlock]

if you plan on capitulating them yeah

[storm solstice]

For italy can i take it easy
ethiopia > yugoslavia > join ww2 > win ww2 > take on germany
Or is it imperative to blitz everyone before 1939 somehow

but they are complete buns in 1937

[keen hemlock]

ussr is the best target tho

i always go for a full colab on them

[light knoll]

i mean its much easier to kill everyone by 1937

[storm solstice]

In what order? starting with france?

[light knoll]

but you can do historical

[storm solstice]

because i tried franec and i couldnt get anything on them

[light knoll]

yea

[storm solstice]

i had 9/1 divs

[glacial steeple]

cant do it as philippines

[light knoll]

paradrop

[light knoll]

throwing salt on my wounds

[glossy hatch]

guys is concentrated industry worth it ?

[storm solstice]

wasnt paradrop patched in 2017

[light knoll]

yes

[glacial steeple]

im sorry <33

[light knoll]

no

[storm solstice]

Wow

[light knoll]

you paradrop Paris and few other bug cities

[storm solstice]

i thought they cooked that bug when national unity was removed

[light knoll]

:D

[keen hemlock]

national unity

[glacial steeple]

are they like anthills

bug cities

[keen hemlock]

i only know that exists from an isp video

[light knoll]

oops

yes you step on the French

the paratroopers are like your legs

[glacial steeple]

im sorry im being so mean rn i feel so like funny for no reason XD

[light knoll]

coming from the sky to squash the french

[light knoll]

dw its fun

[glacial steeple]

its a decent analogy

[light knoll]

its not a bug its a feature

killing france is a tradition

always works not just as italy btw

when you doubt, paradrop france

[storm solstice]

and should u ever build light tank divs as italy

their stats r truly buns but u get them fast

[light knoll]

no

u should just not build tanks

in general

as most nations

[storm solstice]

hmm but it worked wonderfully in my france run tho

tho they were mediums

[light knoll]

yea sure it works fine

just

a lot more effort for worse/same results

as building air+inf

[storm solstice]

say im playing like iran. what would my divisions be? 9/4s?

[light knoll]

9/0

or 8/0

[storm solstice]

9/0s cant attack

[light knoll]

it can

line arty is not good in general

its fine if you only have gun 0/gun 1

but not after that

[storm solstice]

only attack then is CAS

[light knoll]

16-18 width is ideal for defensive units, 32-36 is ideal for offensive units

but its fine to attack with 16-18 width

[storm solstice]

I meant offensive infantry

[light knoll]

they're good enough

yea just 36 width pure inf ideally

or special forces

mountaineers/rangers

[fathom thistle]

u could go for 36w pure inf, for Iran I would also add logistic companies since supply issue is a common thing in that region. Also if you go for afganistan I would build a supply hub near their border or you will suffer again

[light knoll]

nah supply hub is not worth the time to build with your limited eco. you just bait them to go out of their borders and encircle and kill them

then just walk in

[fathom thistle]

works, too I just remember how horrible the supply is there

or even supply by air would work too probably

[light knoll]

yeah it is
but they don't have many or strong units so its not thst hard to bypass it

[storm solstice]

attacking afghanistan is the 1960 US invasion experience

[glacial steeple]

no arty because arty bad

[glacial steeple]

you need 2 supply hubs

in herat and in the other city south of kabul

[storm solstice]

so ig its just more worthwhile to build cas as italy? than to invest in tanks early

[glacial steeple]

youll have to build at minimum 1 and other depends on if its spawned in

[candid abyss]

italy, do i need to make those 32w offensive infantry or are those boys enough so i dont run into the same supply nightmare again?

[glacial steeple]

yes

you get like a lot of air research buffs

[glacial steeple]

you need to also focus on air research or not play italy

[candid abyss]

also do i build the large medium tank battalions or forget it

[glacial steeple]

italy isnt easy lol

you dont have the industry

[candid abyss]

yeah i am rushing the carrier first then i'll switch to air

[glacial steeple]

italy is extremely industry limited

so its very hard for a new player

[candid abyss]

i spammed civs across yugoslavia and albania and fuel refineries on the coast of libiya

[glacial steeple]

those dont give equipment

it doesnt help like at all

[candid abyss]

last playthrough i made 4 4 1 4 4 mediums / motorized inf

[candid abyss]

i ran out of resources last time

[glacial steeple]

yes that also happens

you trade but you use civs you capture

[candid abyss]

i'll switch them to military factories when they become excess

[storm solstice]

And will yugo always accept the ultimatum?

if u keep all ur arm yon their border

[candid abyss]

do i make those or forget tanks all together?

[glacial steeple]

why do you want them to accept

[candid abyss]

yeah 99.9999%

[glacial steeple]

you get way less factories

[candid abyss]

so i should have went to war and annexed them instead?

[light knoll]

don't build tanks

[candid abyss]

so spam mountaineers and 32w infantry?

[light knoll]

tank Italy isn't a thing

[light knoll]

yea

[thin nebula]

How dare you

[candid abyss]

sigh ok the 4 4 4 3 infantry arty line i guess it is

lord help us

[thin nebula]

Haafr doesnt believe in the superiorty of a L3

[candid abyss]

im focusing on africa specifically honestly i developed very raging hate for the british and the levantine forces last playthrough

[glacial steeple]

youll have more fun as like finland or like japan or something

[thin nebula]

Play south africa

Its very fun

[glacial steeple]

italy is just so bad industrially and cant do tanks

[candid abyss]

i think i'll have the most fun as a devout commie and play ussr but i just need to learn everything first before doing such runs

[thin nebula]

Italy can do tanks you just have to treat it like you're a minor with no factories and have 5 real attack divs

[glacial steeple]

then play ussr

youll learn

[light knoll]

the main tank nations are Germany, soviets, and france somewhat

[glacial steeple]

italy just really is hard

its not a good beginner nation

[candid abyss]

i also thought what if i make like limited but very elite units and decided to go with infantry instead

[candid abyss]

idk everyone on yt said if you're new start with italy to get the basics

https://tenor.com/view/auburn-basketball-auburn-charles-barkley-charles-barkley-gif-13532820411571798780

okok i will get my ass clapped in palestine and start a soviet run

see you in 2 horus

hours

[thin nebula]

Ive never been a fan of infantry stuff as any nation

[candid abyss]

im jus horsing around rn but is this a good template?

[fathom thistle]

elite as in special forces?

[glacial steeple]

you should get better gun tech

[fathom thistle]

or just normal 36w inf

[glacial steeple]

thats more important

your guns suck

[storm solstice]

should you spam shitty horses to get more special forces cap?

[glacial steeple]

your unit looks fine for gun 1 but you just need better guns

[candid abyss]

no like quality over quantity type shit, i thought for example 5 very advanced tank divisions rather than a full army of shit infantry

[glacial steeple]

thats how the game works yeah

but theres quality in some inf too

[candid abyss]

i did that already

[storm solstice]

wrong reply?

[candid abyss]

so do that template and rush the gun research?

[fathom thistle]

yeah train max 1 cav unit then convert it to like max artillery or tanks template,, just make sure you turn everything off in equipment except guns

[candid abyss]

oh i thought you were telling me not asking me

mb

[light knoll]

no. you spam a bunch of 2w, convert them to the biggest template you have, then convert the units you want to special forces, then can convert back/delete the 2w

[glacial steeple]

its not great but just focus on guns and doctrines

[light knoll]

the game counts battalions you have on paper

[glacial steeple]

templates are not all that

[fathom thistle]

u can make elite tanks sure, doesnt mean that you cant do elite infantry, it just depends how you want to play it

[light knoll]

not how much you actually have in field

[glacial steeple]

theres just a lot of variety in them so you see a lot of info about it

[candid abyss]

i thought about making tanks for the deserts of africa

[storm solstice]

isnt special forces based on batallions?

[glacial steeple]

the main thing in divs that makes or breaks them is the support, which across all pinned unit designs are pretty universal

[storm solstice]

so shouldnt that not matter

[candid abyss]

okayy

[candid abyss]

engineers, and anti air i saw online but idk i feel like these youtube templates sometimes sort of break the game or cheese the game i want to play like actually instead of spamming meta game breaking stuff

[fathom thistle]

well, you usually want to use tanks on the best terrain for like plains cuz everything else like mountains or desert will just make your tanks inefficient

[arctic aspen]

Has finland been nerfed i havent been able to successfully get sweden or Norway to join my faction

[candid abyss]

like what combat width should i am for on offensive infantry

[candid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-fish-spognebob-phone-gif-3064144843174203984

guess i'll just keep throwing italians at the british in the levant

[fathom thistle]

same as for tanks 36w, or if you want to minmax it 35w with line aa battalion

this way you have free support slot

which is always nice

[candid abyss]

they were so annoying i wanted to forget about suez and end the entire UK influence in the region but i couldnt advance

[light knoll]

on how many battalions you have on paper, yes

[candid abyss]

alright lemme do it then

[light knoll]

if you convert a 2w to 50w

[storm solstice]

oh nvm got it

[light knoll]

now you have 24 more battalions

[storm solstice]

thanks

[candid abyss]

lowk looks weird lmao im gonna need a buttload of guns

do i slap recon rangers on too?

[fathom thistle]

try to get the full army of it as it works best that way

[fathom thistle]

make it 36w until you get the bottom row to make it 35w

[candid abyss]

you mean 24 divisions or fill the template lines with infantry

[light knoll]

remove engineers

[fathom thistle]

yes 24 divs

[light knoll]

ideally get field hospital and signal

[fathom thistle]

signals are useless in sp

[glacial steeple]

why

its so good on large divs

[light knoll]

they're not

[fathom thistle]

engis are good

[candid abyss]

like this?

[light knoll]

because its an offensive division

[glacial steeple]

terrain buff

[light knoll]

and like in general defense is easy

[acoustic zephyr]

is this a good design for 1940 against britain

[light knoll]

its only defense buff outside of fort/amphibious

ig its fine if you have field engineering

[glacial steeple]

defense gives break

afaik

[light knoll]

huh what

[versed rose]

country defence buffs give breakthrough

[candid abyss]

good lord

[versed rose]

im not 100% sure if its the same with division template buffs

[storm solstice]

Avg post ussr invasion

[glacial steeple]

this is why you dont convert your whole army....

bro.......

you need to care about your weapons stockpiles a lot more than you are

you can make seperate units,.........

[candid abyss]

so ideally how many infantry armies do i need? i got 3 and a half rn

[glacial steeple]

your guns are also soo bad

[candid abyss]

do i stop training more?

[glacial steeple]

its not about numbers

[candid abyss]

im researching them i promise

[glacial steeple]

unless youre defending

[fathom thistle]

you only need signal for MP games where enemy tanks have 1500 soft or more. Sp enemies just dont have stats for it to be that useful

[candid abyss]

i made 2 armies of cav to raise my mountaineer cap to send them to spain and then converted all the cav to infantry

[glacial steeple]

for attack divs like these youre concentrating your industry into fewer units that attack better

[fathom thistle]

so terrain buffs will be worth more

[candid abyss]

so have 2 infantry templates?

make like an army of offensive ones or what im lost

[acoustic zephyr]

can anyone help me with my plane design

[candid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-tweaking-tweaking-out-tongue-out-gif-7589464350113984305

this game is too hard

these r the infantry i got rn

[glacial steeple]

you need to give your units weapons

how is this a hard concept to understand

[storm solstice]

can u ignore pacify ethiopia

[glacial steeple]

step 1 is not to care about div templates

[candid abyss]

i understand that but i mean when i make the template big the 36w one my entire logi breaks

[glacial steeple]

but about getting proper equipment in numbers

try finland

i swear it will be good for you

[candid abyss]

and how would i do that in 1937 im still researching the rifles

[glacial steeple]

its all about getting as much manpower out as possible and giving them the best weapons ahead of time

your industry is huge compared to manpower

just make mils and forget

and getting unit buffs

from focus tree and generals

[fathom thistle]

this is what i usually aim for if you dont have flame tanks project u can add like logistic companies + later on if you do have special projects u can replace engineers with assault ones (same with repalcing hospitals with med evacs)

but thats like overkill

[candid abyss]

i got the first part rn but the problem is making enough guns, and the second problem will be replacing the shit guns after im done researching i just need to force myself to learn how to manage and understand that with italy then i'll move on

[glacial steeple]

try finland

please

[candid abyss]

ok thanks

[glacial steeple]

its such a good practice/starting nation

[versed rose]

Italy is a poor learning nation

too hamstrung

[fathom thistle]

Italy having better industry then most of the minor countires challange impossible

[candid abyss]

im too stubborn i just need to clap UK in africa and the levant to feel satisfaction and i'll move on, i just need to know where exactly i went wrong in this start. I made 48 divisions of cavs and threw them out without any equipment asap to increase my mountaineer cap, then after that i went for the spirit of the academys for infantry and then replaced all the cav to infantry. and these are how my infastructure and logi look in september 1938, where exactly did i go wrong,

do i maybe disband an army of infantry to ease the problem or just wait it out and not train anymore or what

[light knoll]

those doctrines are like not the most optimal
rapid domination is worse than grand assault for offensive
for inf doctrine you have like 3 fine options, large units tactics, individual excellence, and assault inf
for arty/combat support, for inf build no point taking spg doctrine
ideally you get shh and go siege arty, but if you can't, field engineering is the only relevant doctrine
armor doctrine ofc doesn't matter for inf build

[keen hemlock]

Is there any doctrine or army spirit that buffs flame tanks

[glacial steeple]

ok with all respect and love

youre not gonna archieve that

you need to learn basics of generals, battles, infantry, how air can affect you, and finland will do this for you

its a nation where you can ignore air and tanks and just focus on those

your industry is fine

italy has weird terrain, bad supply, terrible economy

no generals

its just hard

[candid abyss]

i think i got the basics with the navy and the fighting and all that last run i got naval dominance and shut off gibraltar and the suez well i think it's just me trying to get the industry part but ok i'll try finland or soviets

[glacial steeple]

like i say this with all love towards you

it will help you focus as its smaller, you have more time to read and look at things

and you dont need to focus on like, conquering or anything

[candid abyss]

okkk i'll start one right now

[glacial steeple]

like like youre not gonna win if your army has no air, no equipment, is terrible for the terrain its in

etc etc

its really hard to learn but italy throws everything at you from day 1

[keen hemlock]

^

[candid abyss]

6k man power oh boi

[candid abyss]

any tips for finland? diplomacy wise

[fathom thistle]

rapid domi for maxing out soft attack, if you are using planning always sure it's great, as for spg doctrine it's just there cuz later making tanks might be viable for him. Especially since field engineering is terrible (most of the stats are increased for that company and dont stack to whole template. as for spearhead yeah it wont change anything really

[glacial steeple]

im gonna go on a walk for a bit

[candid abyss]

ok have funnn

[glacial steeple]

you guys help him out @fathom thistle @light knoll

youre conscripted

[candid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[fathom thistle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/far-cry-release-me

[light knoll]

yeah field engineering is not really good its just like. the only relevant thing you can take for inf without shh lol so might as well

swapping to spgs later isn't really worth because you'd be behind on research and everything and will already be focused on getting gun techs etc., they're just not worth

[fathom thistle]

u gonna get harassed by soviets so you either go with nordic unity or with axis

[candid abyss]

axis so i can bully nordics and still fight the brits im going to contribute in clapping them one way or another

time for a bitter steel vid

[fathom thistle]

fair enough

actually flying cavarly might be viable too

if he has that dlc

cuz hp

[light knoll]

if he has helicopters yeah

but unless you're spain they take time

[keen hemlock]

Uk can get helis

The already have radar

Anyone know what stats you get in the heli support companies vs the normal ones?

[fathom thistle]

the basic one is like recon but better and then the specialized ones vary, The med evacs give more hp

the logsitic ones help with supply use

[glacial steeple]

and breakthroughs which could go to SUPERSONICS

[keen hemlock]

Don’t you need axial jet for those tho

[glacial steeple]

YEAH

the main issue is 8 air breakthroughs

[keen hemlock]

So that’s 8 air breakthrough’s

I’m sure it’s possible as a major who can spam construct them

[light knoll]

more than 2 isn't really doing much

but as the usa having 6 research slots all on air could definitely help

[candid abyss]

f it im gonna stir up a civil war in finland

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-twitch-kick-crazy-gif-4090492289322768290

crazy generals btw

[glacial steeple]

thats good, youll be able to get desperate defense doctrine

but remember you might lose your generals

the only ones you care about are the one with camo expert

and matti which you get from the tactics focus later

its because the trait reduces CAS damage

[candid abyss]

will keep that in mind thankss

[glacial steeple]

and youll need it

[candid abyss]

yeah im looking around the tree now fasicm looks nice

[glacial steeple]

both non aligned and fascist are good

[glossy hatch]

are the support companies good?

[keen hemlock]

Italy could too if you do the communist path because you get a free facility

[glacial steeple]

fascist is a bit slow though, when it comes to making an army, but since you need a defensive war for desperate defense doctrine (5% recruitable) and civil wars are defensive, its good

[glacial steeple]

theyre fine

[candid abyss]

i get to invade the UK tho, also does the game end? like does it just stop at lets say 1948 or something or it keeps going and i can conquer everything?

[glacial steeple]

you can play as long as you want and your computer allows

[keen hemlock]

There’s an end screen but you can continue

[candid abyss]

ok great thanks

[glacial steeple]

also finland is great because everything about it is pretty good, and you only really have 1 front/enemy you care about

[candid abyss]

soviets are scary i hope i dont get ran over in 3 days

white death will save me

[glacial steeple]

he wont

[candid abyss]

let him cook

[glacial steeple]

youll need enough well equipped divisions out

and a high trust in government alongside other combat buffs

[candid abyss]

i'll kick that 900 year old and bring in a new leader then see what i can do with that

[fathom thistle]

just watch out for soviets naval landing on the south side

they love to do that sometimes

[candid abyss]

ok thanks

is there a focus that increases my research slots like italy

or am i stuck with 3 forever

[violet maple]

hey guys i capitulated france as italy, will AI germany still attack the benelux

and how do i establish vichy fran ce

[keen hemlock]

Just search your focus tree for research slot

[keen hemlock]

Pretty sure only Germany can do that

[candid abyss]

and im already losing the civil war

uhhhhhh

[keen hemlock]

There’s usually a decision that pops up after you cap them

[candid abyss]

help?

[glacial steeple]

play at slower speeds?

[candid abyss]

im on 3 clicks i only have 1 division against 3 i think so how do i win this?

[glacial steeple]

also you dont have units and cant defend yourself here unless you get spawn ins

[glacial steeple]

i dont think you win because they can walk around you but what do i know

sometimes ai doesnt like moving

maybe you had a focus to give more units

[candid abyss]

damn, i just spanwed 2 new infantry divisions, i'll defend for now until i take another look around

[glacial steeple]

the easiest to manage will be non aligned btw, if you lose this

and also dont 5 speed at peacetime, just take your time to read stuff

like seeing you can change your leader is great

[sly reef]

Bring the game to PS5

[candid abyss]

i think i will be fine i just need another unit to train quick so i can get done with the encircled and i'll steamroll the rest

[glacial steeple]

dont kill the units

its your own manpower pool

[candid abyss]

what should i do instead

[glacial steeple]

ideally you avoid casualties here

[candid abyss]

or how do i do it

is the question

[glacial steeple]

they dont fill the front

you can walk around

[candid abyss]

ok therés another thing idk if its a bug, im trying to micro a unit and have it pin another unit they just run and stop doing anything even when i instruct them to move in they just stay stationary

[glacial steeple]

do they have org (green bar)

they need that to conduct attacks

[candid abyss]

yeah my bad

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt like, help them doing it

[candid abyss]

you're right

[glacial steeple]

it just lets them do it at all

[candid abyss]

ok i pinned all 3 and im just running around with another infantry unit around i think i'll be good

[glacial steeple]

you dont need to attack them tho?

you can just walk

unless they move into another tile theyre fine sitting there

[candid abyss]

they're not engaging they're both just holding the front lines assigned

all 4 units are just sitting there

and the encircled one isnt even trying to break out

everyone is doing nothing

which is the most suitable grand doctrine for the land?

do i run grand battle plan to get tip of the spear and uncap my special forces a bit

[fathom thistle]

more stats SFP / planning + cordination bonus GB

[glacial steeple]

you shouldve gotten one pre civil war lol

id go gbp tho

[candid abyss]

i did that, im gonna go edit my infantry and start training 8 divisions for now should be enough until i figure out how many factories i got out of spamming focus tree

[glacial steeple]

did you save up xp too

for desperate defense doctrine

its 5% recruitable pop

massive

[candid abyss]

where do i find it? i just did the grand battle plan doctrine and adjusted my infantry to 18w and dishing out 8 more divisions for now

[glacial steeple]

its on the right

and i wouldnt do that?

i highly doubt you have the manpower for that many units

like again, its like italy

[candid abyss]

found it ok

[glacial steeple]

you want fully equipped units

not no guns, not no manpower

raw division numbers arent too relevant besides holding more tiles, which they wont be able to without strenght (orange bar)

[candid abyss]

so what just chill for now? shouldnt they not like deploy until they have enough equipment?

[glacial steeple]

thats not how it works

[candid abyss]

thats why i was getting clapped

how does it work

[glacial steeple]

it will give equipment and manpower to new units in training

instead of to the field

[candid abyss]

i thought they wait and not deploy until they have the equipment

[glacial steeple]

you dont want to always recruit more

because there wont be reserves when you take losses

and its also just bad

[candid abyss]

ok i currently have 7 divisions i wont train more i'll just let them get rifles i guess im 3k short on rifles rn

[glacial steeple]

youll never be able to make units larger because of aforementioned no stockpiles, no manpower reserved

finland has a lot of equipment per manpower

theres no excuse to ever be down equipment

[candid abyss]

or do i disband some of that 7

[glacial steeple]

you equip them

you also have an advisor for 200 weekly men

[candid abyss]

make them 4 and train whenever im full on equipment

[candid abyss]

yeah i got him

[glacial steeple]

you make new units only when you have reserves for it

as in

already enough stuff to fully equip them

its fine not to use every gun, its better to be safe

same for manpower

its fine to have some reserves

[candid abyss]

ok i disbanded 3 and i'll sit with 4 for now until they are full on equipment

should be 200 days but im making new mils

[glacial steeple]

you want everything positive

like, always

low strenght units also take more casualties

[candid abyss]

ok thanks, also for the navy, subs, and crusiers and destroyers only right? no big ships?

[glacial steeple]

ignore

make convoys

focus on researching guns, ahead of time

[candid abyss]

already doing that ok great thanks

[glacial steeple]

ignore what the big red number says

youll get it earlier

earlier is more better gun

[still mirage]

what the hell man?

Also anyone knows how I can get like more than 100 air force per naval battle like here?

[candid abyss]

im gonna trade for some steel

[glacial steeple]

good

[candid abyss]

is there a focus to increase my research slots?

or they're just 3

[glacial steeple]

theres some, just look around

theyre not very good

make sure to do the army tree ASAP

[candid abyss]

yep i found two

[candid abyss]

yeah im doing these i just clicked on a couple of focuses that give me civs and i'll go back again

[manic stratus]

please tell me what im doing isint bullshit also im training 12 tank divisions twice for the western front

[violet maple]

what am i missing for greater italy??

i have malta

and crete

[fathom thistle]

cyprus?

[violet maple]

it doesnt mention it in ther list

[fathom thistle]

show the tab

[astral heath]

can someone help im trying to do either demand path as hungary but i dont have enough mp and idk how to get more

[fathom thistle]

the formable one

[tired moon]

how do I create a faction?

I want to create one with france

[fathom thistle]

which one? Horthy or Gombos?

[astral heath]

horthy

it says i need more mp but idk how to get more

im new and sm recomended hungary

[fathom thistle]

did you do secret rearmament?

[astral heath]

what?

[fathom thistle]

or you dont have even this?

[astral heath]

wdym this is my focus tree

[glacial steeple]

civs also dont matter

your combat buffs and manpower matter

and equipped units in field, preferably good

[fathom thistle]

It's usually a focus from which you can create a faction

[candid abyss]

how do i increase this poor man's trust? just spam the propaganda stuff and ban commies and other parties

[glacial steeple]

hover over him

he will tell you

slso youre very far down, and fascist support is very hard

fascist trust*

[astral heath]

oh this?

[candid abyss]

so jus ban the commies basically ok

[astral heath]

i have low mp it says

[fathom thistle]

is there nothing more if you scroll down more to the right side

[fathom thistle]

YES

bled agreement

u usually do that at start

or very soon

[candid abyss]

also btw most of the focus tree the army part i should be in war or the world tensions should be 25%

im stuck i cant go further down it

[astral heath]

oh ok

[glacial steeple]

ASAP

[astral heath]

i didnt even know that was there lol

[glacial steeple]

if not possible, find other buffs

like civs arent awful, but you have fascist tree buffs that give units and stuff

[candid abyss]

ok i will go do infrastructre and facism propaganda stuff

[storm wigeon]

Does anyone know what's going on? #hoi4-general message

[candid abyss]

whats going on

[astral heath]

@fathom thistle what do i do now?

[sacred dew]

can someone recommend a good infantry division template for singleplayer? im new to the game and dont know what battallions to use, help wouldbe appreciated,thank you

[astral heath]

oh nvm

[fathom thistle]

You should be able to increase your conscription law now

[astral heath]

is that in descions?

it auto did demand southern slovakia

[astral heath]

which one do i do?

i found it

[candid abyss]

lessgoo

[tired moon]

it says i have low manpower what should I do

[astral heath]

which is best conscription law @fathom thistle

[dense stump]

guys when i construct civilian factories and military factories the civilian use 15/15 and the military only 1 pls help

[astral heath]

bros tying fior 20 min

[fathom thistle]

My preffered doctrines but can be change
1.st Assault Inf - lot of soft attack / Individual excelency - hp stack
2. nd If you dont want any tanks you can replace it with flying cavarly if you have that or field engis but they are terrible.
3rd. Dont matter
4. Rapid domi - maxing soft attack again/ grand assault maxing planning + breatkrough (if you are always maxing out planning use this)

[fathom thistle]

extended without any major debuffs

[astral heath]

do i jus get auto soldiers now?

[tired moon]

???

[fathom thistle]

[tired moon]

what do I do pleas help this is me 3rd game im bad at dis

[sacred dew]

i think you should increase conscription law (thats what ive been told)

[keen hemlock]

352k is fine

I’d increase when I get lower

[astral heath]

so now do i just wait until i have enough mp to demand things?

[tired moon]

why does the game say LOW MANPOWER

if 352k is fine

[keen hemlock]

It’s like a percentage iirc

[fathom thistle]

do you have all your mp deployed?

but pretty much yes

[fathom thistle]

relative to its population

[astral heath]

how do i deploy it?

[fathom thistle]

just train divs and then deploy them until you have no mp left

[haughty vortex]

I think it's because you don't have enough manpower to make more divisions, but if you don't need to make more divisions it should be fine

[keen hemlock]

I’d be getting low manpower when I have 500k in the bank as Soviets

[fathom thistle]

insane

[haughty vortex]

Anyway what should i (germany) do to not make the UK destroy my entire fleet?

I had every naval bomber on the english channel and they still destroyed my entire fleet

[astral heath]

@fathom thistle what do i do now? cuz romanioa joined the axis before i could demand and germany wotn give me slovakia

[tired moon]

I have a tactic

DONT DARE DO ANYTHING WITH THE BRITISH

[fathom thistle]

Restart tbh

Or fight axis alone

[astral heath]

i just left axcis

ill prolly restart cuz this wont work out

[fathom thistle]

You could wait till ussr starts pushing germs back and then attack them to get Slovakia

That's the long game

[twin kayak]

where can I fing the saves folder ?

[tired moon]

is my manpower too low

What do I do

No genuinely

what do I do

my pp goes up slowly

WHAT DO I DOOOOO

POLITICAL POWER

[opaque wing]

.

[opaque wing]

what kind of terrible game have you done

to get in that position

[twin kayak]

are you infront of a pre school again ?

[tired moon]

Damn democratic anschluss

[tired moon]

im in my 3rd game and im doing democratic germany

I managed to get it back up to 200k

[tired moon]

Bro

Political power

[opaque wing]

how d u have 100 stability 26 war support 88k manpower and 35 pp with 96 factories

[twin kayak]

ooohh

[tired moon]

I geniunely did not mean that

[twin kayak]

my bad

[tired moon]

yea whats the problem with that

except for manpower

[opaque wing]

it's weird

[tired moon]

currently its this

[opaque wing]

100 stability and barelly enough war support

[opaque wing]

this is better

then i look that it's 40s

[tired moon]

I think for my 3rd game its probably really good

[tired moon]

1940

[opaque wing]

wait

like

is this ur 3rd hoi4 game

[tired moon]

yeah

[opaque wing]

or 3rd attempt at uh

eu germany

[tired moon]

first 2 attempts were nazi germany

[opaque wing]

oh you shouldn't do germany

you should play italy or a minor

[tired moon]

also what should I do to increase my war support

[tired moon]

I tried actually

like the tutorial

[opaque wing]

radio, war propaganda heros

[opaque wing]

tutorial shows barelly anything, you don't know how to paratroop or how to naval invade

[tired moon]

i mean

i still really dont but eh

who cares

[opaque wing]

obviously

[tired moon]

for my 3rd real game i think this isnt that bad

[opaque wing]

you need to know one of those

in order to do world conquests or to even kill uk

[tired moon]

yeah

[opaque wing]

well sometims ai germany kills uk but yea

[tired moon]

fair point

time to goog

(google)

[opaque wing]

google won't help

[tired moon]

time to tube

[opaque wing]

nop not either

[tired moon]

the hell i do

[opaque wing]

do you know how to asign planes to regions

and give them missions

tutorial teaches that

[tired moon]

i think so

[opaque wing]

try it

germany has planes when game starts

[glacial steeple]

whats going on chat

[opaque wing]

asign them to west germany on air superiority

[tired moon]

all german planes mysteriously vanish
-newspaper

[opaque wing]

teaching a guy

[glacial steeple]

good luck hero

[tired moon]

in my current game uk is fascist

[opaque wing]

alright put some fighters into production

[tired moon]

italy is fascist and in the comintern

[opaque wing]

thanks ill need it

[opaque wing]

that's easy game for you then

[tired moon]

they nearly lost all their puppets

but

[opaque wing]

there is no allies you go kill france poland then attack commiterm while you push with mountaneers into italy

[tired moon]

im a democratic country bru

and i am allied with poland

[opaque wing]

do you not have fascist tree

or have you gone democratic thru the tree

[tired moon]

I did

I opposed hitler

[opaque wing]

ah

alright

anyway back to teaching you paradrops

[glacial steeple]

why does he need to learn that lol

plenty of ways to win without them

[river oxide]

cause fun

[opaque wing]

i mean only naval or paradrop and paradropping is much easier than learning navy

especially early on

[glacial steeple]

navy is easy

[river oxide]

why push army when capitualte cause of air

[glacial steeple]

put everything in big fleet

patrol

[river oxide]

i js make light cruiser with max light atk

[glacial steeple]

works

[river oxide]

good enough

[candid abyss]

ok chat how is the USSR invasion gonna go?

[opaque wing]

i mean yeah but designing the boats takes quite some muscle especially for players who havent played the game be4

[opaque wing]

the fact u only have 19 divs is scary

[glacial steeple]

click ligght attack module click visibility buff

[candid abyss]

well they're well equipped and thats the industry that i have i couldnt dish out more

[opaque wing]

fr

[glacial steeple]

dont hold the frontline

you will lose

make fallback lines to where you think you can hold

[opaque wing]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

1-2 divs per tile minimum

[candid abyss]

hide behind the river and defend leningrad probs?

[glacial steeple]

idk you have 19 guys

idk how your stockpiles or mil count are

if youve built anything but mils youve done something wrong

actually a land facility at the start isnt bad but eh

[glacial steeple]

not great

couldve made more guns instead of trains and so much AA

1 on trucks is also more than enough as minor nations

maybe theyll bomb it to 0 but theres really nothing you can do about that

same for trains you usually dont need a whole lot

[candid abyss]

if its any help im playing on the lowest difficulty

[glacial steeple]

thats more reasonable but remember to keep a few units on helsinki and stop exercising

ruins org

[opaque wing]

Why iregulars

[glacial steeple]

no that just buffs you

doesnt change ai

you should play on regular

[candid abyss]

okkk thanks

[opaque wing]

I mean they r better but eh

@candid abyss how much width do the iregulars have

[candid abyss]

ok next run

prayers uppp

[glacial steeple]

ill give you more in depth guide if you need it after this btw

[candid abyss]

which irregulars

its infantry

[visual citrus]

Does somebody have a link for manual download for Jewel of An Empire

[candid abyss]

i just changed the icon

to recognise it

[opaque wing]

Oh

[candid abyss]

they gave me the temp for free

so i kept it

pretty decent

[opaque wing]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh its not the worst

[tired moon]

lets say i invited a nation currently in war to my faction

would I join the war

[candid abyss]

ok time to get that soviet belt

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[glacial steeple]

buy coal its a massive eco debuff

[candid abyss]

yessir

[glacial steeple]

always check these and never right click to dismiss

[candid abyss]

done

[glacial steeple]

theyre basically warnings of immediate (possible) danger

[candid abyss]

ok thanks

[glacial steeple]

or ignorance of something

[candid abyss]

i should reject the italian volunteers right? i shouldnt get dragged in a world war that early?

or accept them?

[opaque wing]

Uh

[tired moon]

doesnt matter

I got into a war alreadyh

[opaque wing]

With who

How many divs u got and how much stockpile

[glacial steeple]

you can accept them its not like an alliance

theyre just sending guys to join you in your war, but they will go home when italy enters any war

[opaque wing]

Or when they ask for them back-

[candid abyss]

alright, i got a notif that my trains are being destroyed, anything to do or just chill?

[opaque wing]

Which ironically happened to me in my lux wc

[glacial steeple]

thats not vanilla

[glacial steeple]

nothing you can do

[opaque wing]

Mbe not historical

[candid abyss]

ok i got pushed back a small bit in leningrad and thats it so far hopefully i survive

[glacial steeple]

like you could make armored trains ig but its like

waste of research

[glacial steeple]

if you hold leningrad 30 days you can demand peace

in decisions

[opaque wing]

So how many wc have you done

And what was ur hardest one

[storm wigeon]

Does anyone know why I didn't get the Battlecry achievement?

[opaque wing]

Ur at war

With who?

[candid abyss]

ok, what do i do to make the modify goverment notif go away

[glacial steeple]

spenmd political power

also civillian eco is awful

[opaque wing]

First civilian economy

[glacial steeple]

shouldve gone to partial mob

conscription law going up is also good

[opaque wing]

Put it at part or war economy

[glacial steeple]

to a degree

[candid abyss]

done

ill go walk the doggos and come back

[opaque wing]

Is japan also there

Or some of china

[storm wigeon]

NO

😭

[sturdy vault]

i have absolutley ZERO clue how to play HOI i bought the general edition and im way too slow for the 40 minute youtube videos,

[opaque wing]

Mbe u dont control all islands idk honestly

[opaque wing]

Uh

[sturdy vault]

ikr

[opaque wing]

Do in game tutorial

It basically is enough to get you started

[glacial steeple]

its so bad tho

[opaque wing]

Its better than nothing

[storm wigeon]

...

[glacial steeple]

its highkey borderline useless

[opaque wing]

It teaches u how to move units !!!!

[sturdy vault]

thats what im sayinnn

[opaque wing]

Js play italy or a minor

[sturdy vault]

MINOR?

[glacial steeple]

in how much time do you expect to learn the basics of this game

[opaque wing]

Minor nation

[sturdy vault]

6-7 years maybe

[opaque wing]

Thats what i did to learn

[glacial steeple]

awesome

[visual citrus]

Is it even possible to get Jewel of An Empire with manual download

[opaque wing]

Ok then go headfirst into a vulcani come back 6-7 years later then play italy

[sturdy vault]

anybody able to join helping lounge and like micro teach me im slow for videos but peole auctaully talking to me makes shi way easier

[opaque wing]

Have you done tutorial yes or no

Asking if you know how to do some of the more basic stuff

[sturdy vault]

somewhat

[sturdy vault]

ive played games somewhat similiar just not so advanced

[opaque wing]

Oh good then

Play my favourite nation

Hungary

And kill germany

[sturdy vault]

are you able to join and help me? https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/727260126481744033

[opaque wing]

Nop

I can tell u in msgs for like 18 mins

[twin kayak]

I'm in a bit of a pickle

any tips ?

[candid abyss]

im getting clapped

gg and RIP

[austere roost]

Is this a cav game?

[candid abyss]

wdym

im playing as finland

[austere roost]

No I'm asking the prev guy

[twin kayak]

cav ?

[austere roost]

Are they all cav?

Cavalry?

[twin kayak]

no, it's just that I went the russian civil war path and the only units I had during it were cav units

I didn't have enough time to build anything else

so I kept them

and upgraded them

[austere roost]

There's nothing else

[twin kayak]

So, rn: yes only cav

but it's not my goal

[austere roost]

When is it? If it's 1941 you definitely have time to rebuild

[twin kayak]

I have tank divs coming out

[austere roost]

Then just hold

There are salients where you can create pockets

[twin kayak]

I know, I'll use the tanks for it

[austere roost]

Plus the axis troops are half equipped and low supply

[sturdy vault]

yo is anyone able to hop into https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/727260126481744033 and help me understand some im also looking for some cool people to hang out

[twin kayak]

I just get overwhelmed by all of these enemw units ganging their heads against my lines

[austere roost]

If they can't push why bother?

[twin kayak]

well, they can

that's the problem

[austere roost]

Then retreat to the river

[twin kayak]

I don't have anything here

[candid abyss]

is there a way to stop these people bruh

maybe im using the fall back lines wrong?

[austere roost]

Then you should have fixed your army in the 3 yrs after the civil war

If you have ncns a lot of the faction goals give you a lot of army xp

[candid abyss]

the civil war took so much time off me i only had 1 division and we just kept running circles around each other it was so cringe and buggy

[austere roost]

And of course you should have trained

No I'm talking about russia

[candid abyss]

Im finland

[austere roost]

So we're talking about diff things

[rose plover]

i understand that italy joins the faction trhough a focus, but how comes it that italy after that never leave or get kicked out by the uk

[opaque wing]

Cuz it isnt allies
Most nations dont leave alliences

[rose plover]

but they should if they arent the same ideology

[arctic stream]

I genuinely dont understand how im meant to beat usst when this is what the Ai predicts my attacks are gonna be like