ask-for-help-here

[twin kayak]

i never asked for lend lease. idk how it words

works*

can I just ask for 1 million guns ?

[obsidian badger]

Press the equipment on the right

You cant ask for amount

The ai will just give however much they want

But pay attention to the accept thing

If they wont accept

[twin kayak]

I don't really need anything rn

[obsidian badger]

Remove that equipment

And go down the line

[twin kayak]

idk what to ask

[obsidian badger]

It is literally free to ask

You can get tons of shit and lose nothing if they refuse

[light knoll]

its not slow tho

[obsidian badger]

You can even cheese it by spamming a bunch of divisions in queue, creating an artificial deficit, and then requesting

Then cancelling the divisions once the lease is accepted

[twin kayak]

man, sweden really doesn't accept anything

[tired moon]

Man I am great at making poland explode (ignore the left please)

[obsidian badger]

You can get it late 37 early 38 with luck

[light knoll]

huh no way im sure I've done it earlier

[obsidian badger]

Odd, try improving relations

[obsidian badger]

I think its possible to get mid 37

[light knoll]

why are u losing to Poland

[obsidian badger]

like you would need 2 vanguard communism events in a row

[tired moon]

look

[obsidian badger]

Maybe 3

[tired moon]

this is my 2nd game

ever

[obsidian badger]

F

[tired moon]

forgive me

[glacial steeple]

its so sloooww

for the buffs

i dont have the patience

[tired moon]

also i didnt put the year on purpose

its 1941

[obsidian badger]

“trust me we will be in moscow in 2 months” ahh quote

[light knoll]

ok understandable

[glacial steeple]

its like playing brasil i struggle to enjoy it because its like a year slower than argentina lol

like its fine when it pays off like 3 years later but thats so much patience

[obsidian badger]

Brazil has ussa or america do sul

Very powerful

[twin kayak]

How do I know when I can push ?

[light knoll]

Brazil sucks

why can't Brazil core Portugal

[glacial steeple]

well yeah but you can kill europe in 39 as arg

[obsidian badger]

Argentina i think you need to integrate every state manually

[twin kayak]

or do I just defend till barbarossa

[light knoll]

I'm sure hatless will find a way to do it as Brazil

[obsidian badger]

Wow so fun unlimited cheese

[glacial steeple]

ive tried

its slower

[glacial steeple]

no paratroopers?

just like invading normally

you take uruguay brasil chile and portugal and spain

then go france and ger

its fun

[obsidian badger]

How u beating soviets and germany as 39 arg

[glacial steeple]

cuz arg is goated

[light knoll]

you core ger

[obsidian badger]

Fourth reich?

[glacial steeple]

maybe ussr is hard but you could do if you puppet stuff and also you core ger yeah

[obsidian badger]

So ahistorical partially

[glacial steeple]

well yeah hist arg sucks

[obsidian badger]

Ive never played fourth reich hinestly

[light knoll]

who plays historical

[glacial steeple]

no one plays hist arg

then brasil clears

[obsidian badger]

Ik but u have to make germany go civil war

[glacial steeple]

cuz it scales in 1940 and later

[twin kayak]

@obsidian badger no lend lease from germany and italy either

[glacial steeple]

no

you can just do it

when berlin falls you get him

you can make berlin fall game doesnt care

just go fascist

[obsidian badger]

So u…kill germany and hitler defects to his invader

[glacial steeple]

you can do that if you want yeah XD

[obsidian badger]

adam hilter moment

[twin kayak]

How do I know when to push against the soviets ?

[obsidian badger]

if you dont think you need lend lease then its fine

[glacial steeple]

when you feel confident

[obsidian badger]

But you can create an artificial deficit like i said

[glacial steeple]

he doesnt need it

finland isnt IC limited

[twin kayak]

nah, I'm the north korea of scandinavia. I don't need anything

I'll do everything myself

[obsidian badger]

They will eventually pull troops away to guard the german border

[glacial steeple]

you can push before but its like

[obsidian badger]

If that happens and you can also see that a unit is undersupplied

[glacial steeple]

whenever you want to really

[obsidian badger]

Then its a good time

[glacial steeple]

when soviet units allow you to

but you dont have any offensive divs so you cant push without losing half your army

small divs suck

[obsidian badger]

Pretty sure naval ai now will basically never try shit if you have naval bombers, so if u make 1 naval bomber deploy it then request lend lease from ger/ita for more naval bombers

U might be able to just scare the soviets to port

[twin kayak]

well, idk how to spot when pushing is a good idea in general. But against the soviets, they usually have 3 or 4 divs on 1 tile and I don't think my infantry can manage to push (my mountaineers might be able, but I only have 1 div rn)

[glacial steeple]

well thats the issue then

just gotta get more units able to push

[obsidian badger]

Hug lakes and coasts then

[glacial steeple]

larger units in general are your friend

[obsidian badger]

And push with that one unit

[glacial steeple]

they lose less and deal more damage

and also support company costs dont scale

[twin kayak]

Can I just wait until they have no more men ? casualty ratio is 1:12 now (in my favor of course)

[rose plover]

first time loss with japan against china

wth

[glacial steeple]

well you have to

you never should go into deficit

but its like, you should focus on it rather than making more unit

[obsidian badger]

Is it better to have a 9 block mechanized 1 heavy armor spg or like a 16 block mech and same spg

[glacial steeple]

16/1 clears

[obsidian badger]

Guh

[glacial steeple]

you can try in combat

run tests

see what loses less

youll have less org, but less losses

[obsidian badger]

well its a space marine i dont really want attacking too much

[glacial steeple]

larger units therefore are better for small nations, while small units are good for nations that can afford losses

[obsidian badger]

If rather let my tank divs do shit 99% of the time

[twin kayak]

do I really need Oulu ? it's a plains tile and I could put the river between me and the soviets. Or is it a bad idea ?

[glacial steeple]

supply hub

[twin kayak]

ahh yes

forgot about that

I lose all of my transports

I don't really build anything except guns

[obsidian badger]

I am drooling at the encirclement potential here

guuuhhh

[twin kayak]

draw it

I don't see it

[glacial steeple]

happens

if you can, connect back to sweden

[grim badge]

I just started my first game as Iraq and I did most of the Saadabad pact focus tree thing, however there is no option on the focus tree to make a Saadabad faction which is required for the Saadabad research cooperation, What do i do! I am still a noob btw

[glacial steeple]

normal tree lets you make factions

[twin kayak]

should I try to push these divs ?

[glacial steeple]

they look weak

but you need units to fill gaps and jold while you push for encirclements

your army is too small

[twin kayak]

I feel like it's not the right time, but having no industry stresses me a bit out

I have 3 mountaineers coming out of training

could try it

[glacial steeple]

you have stockpiles

[grim badge]

Can you please elaborate more? sorry for bothering

[glacial steeple]

you can also do a build to capture stuff if you wanna be funny, but a bit late

[glacial steeple]

look at the focuses

zoom out/scroll

theres more than saadabat

[twin kayak]

how does the ussr evolve over time ? do they get stronger or rather weeker the more the war progresses ?

[glacial steeple]

they outscale you in manpower growth, eco growth etc

[twin kayak]

and after barbarossa ?

[glacial steeple]

same but now you have big german guy helping you

[obsidian badger]

39 russia is pretty weak

If you call germany in 39 soviets will crumple

[obsidian badger]

Is industry or manpower the bigger concern

[twin kayak]

manpower

but I just pumped out some divs and think that I could make a play

[obsidian badger]

Honestly paradox should add a new tactic for finland and some jungle nations

[twin kayak]

I need to reduce the communists for the focus lone wolf

[obsidian badger]

Where small units can phase thru low org enemy units

finland basically did that all winter war

[glacial steeple]

you have an advisor

[obsidian badger]

Ban communism

[glacial steeple]

he gives -0.10

[twin kayak]

it's over 20%

[glacial steeple]

replace an eco guy for him

i forgot which focus gives him tho

he costs like 51 pp if you have kallio

[twin kayak]

I might have done something wrong

[glacial steeple]

?

[twin kayak]

I banned democratic parties

[obsidian badger]

I once killed like 6 million fins in a longass stalemate between allies and axis lol

I played some years more after we won

The manpower never recovered

Lol

[glacial steeple]

better garrison divs if you have dlc

[obsidian badger]

I wasnt occupying much

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt matter

[obsidian badger]

Its just every fin is dead

Lol

[glacial steeple]

even if its a little

[twin kayak]

didn't see him

[glacial steeple]

its huge for finland

[glacial steeple]

hes good to get early

[twin kayak]

is this worth going for ?

[glacial steeple]

nah

doesnt give divs

only buffs

[obsidian badger]

In most runs you ban/raid communism early

[glacial steeple]

i mean the buffs are ok but its all defensive

[glacial steeple]

you need him

[grim badge]

If i join the allies faction will i get there researched stuff?

[glacial steeple]

soviets will always give a spirit raising communis

which ruins your public trust

[glacial steeple]

no

[obsidian badger]

If i remember banning communism fixes it

[glacial steeple]

thats -0.05

the spirit is +0.10

[grim badge]

Is it even possible for other countries to share research with me?

[obsidian badger]

Research sharing groups yes

Via faction or focuses

You can get up to 50% bonus for tech youur faction has researched

[glacial steeple]

licensing also gives a buff

[obsidian badger]

If u dont wanna research you can license

[twin kayak]

banned everything

idk if it was the right move

[obsidian badger]

But you wont have mio

[twin kayak]

but too late anyway

[glacial steeple]

btw how do you enjoy this compared to germany

[obsidian badger]

1984

finland on top always

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

https://youtu.be/5ZJZ63TVOgc?si=NE4BHbdGIK6omcqH

[hollow halo]

Brand New Player, Sunk like 12 hours in over past 3 days. Jesus this game is overwhelming, fortunately I have no wife or life so I should be able to progress quickly. First game was USA, Couple Basic Questions.

1. All of the YouTube videos have completely different Doctrines, I can only select a few that match my mastery track or something, this is a New feature?

2. Training troops, all divisions designed by YouTube “expert/virgin.” How many of each should I make. I had the max amount of Marines (Special Forces?) I could, 10 armies of Infantry, and 2 of the light or medium tanks and got SHIT on by Germany.

3. Following the setup guide is easy enough, but come wartime everything falls apart. My guess is I have no idea how the battle planning works, I manually try to move divisions and they just die. “Can’t attack a counter attack or something”

4. Moving Mouse equals moving map is so unnecessary, can I turn this off?

5. There seems to be no up to date “Meta” guides online, is there like a collection of Best USA Democracy build, Best USA Global Hegemon Build, etc. all compiled somewhere?

6. Joined the Allied Faction when Tension hit 100%, Blitzed into France. Took 1 port and everything died. Does the UK normally just sit and watch or do I have to command them somehow?

Put simply, what do? My options as of now are rage or quit

Holy word vomit, apologies in advance

[glacial steeple]

1: yes, doctrines were updated in the last major update

2: you shouldnt focus as much on "amount of troop" in this game as their quality, for quality its a lot harder to explain than i can in a chain message for now

3: you probably have no org or strenght, and just like when you arrive in the ports, not all units enter battle, get encircled, run out of org and then lose the battle

4: i think so? but its a good thing to have

5: no, the USA also isnt very strong in this version

6: the uk ai on historical leaves france undefended so that germany can actually win the war

[twin kayak]

Well, thank you for telling me to play finland. It has been really fun until now

[obsidian badger]

Usa is still strong

Focus tree doesnt matter when 200 civs and 5 quintillion building slots

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt get stats or good production tho

so people expect to auto win and its just not a nation capable of that

[obsidian badger]

400 mils

[glacial steeple]

you dont even have the build slots

[obsidian badger]

Monroe every everybody in latin america

[glacial steeple]

the meta is monroe alliance into civil war

[hexed parcel]

can someone hop in helping lounge with me

[glacial steeple]

annex all when civil war ends

[hexed parcel]

i need help i did something bad

[visual yacht]

Theres also a search bar in the focus tree screen, try searching for "faction" or "create"

[keen hemlock]

LETS GO

[obsidian badger]

Also as usa you need to abuse new faction mechanics

Dismantle american commonwealth and do industrail charter

You get like

[twin kayak]

I currently have 6 of those. I might start an offensive in the north

[obsidian badger]

7% factory, dockyard, construction from start

[hollow halo]

Thanks, I think I understand the basics of troop quality, up-to-date equipment, 30 width, Soft Atk emphasis, etc. Will the UK not assist in retaking France after it caps or just not defend it?

[obsidian badger]

Uk is coded to wait until at least barb before retaking France

[hollow halo]

Barb?

[neat widget]

barbarossa

[hollow halo]

Ahh

Is it worth trying learn mechanics through USA, I figured It would help me understand research/production etc.

[twin kayak]

final Finland update for today

mountaineers payed off

a bigger screenshot

Good night everyone

[autumn mural]

rlly i dont get this i follow designs for division. i train them. i try to get the upgraded equipment asap. i seen tutorial but i cant get a successful atk. literally im startin to think i wastd money on this game

i also try to keep the organization on 40-50 but its still not enough to beat infantery armies.

[glacial steeple]

good night! /

[neat widget]

each battle has a bubble associated with it, and that bubble will either show up green or red

if you click on that battle you will get a detailed report on what modifiers are affecting your troops' performance

[candid abyss]

guys can anyone link me q youtube video i need like a full army guide, templates, when to make what, these battle lines and how to efficiently set them up, how to efficiently set divisions up and what kind of tanks to produce for what situations the whole thing

i played like 5 times as Italy and i only ever beat yugoslavia, albania (i didn't know i can take them ov r as puppets through the focus tree) and romania and Ethiopia ofc, when i try to help Germany invade france im always held stationary on my frontline and i end up losing the entirety of Libya and Eritrea and somalia

i cant figure out how to properly go head to head with these nations

the only thing i think i did right was making 3 navy groups, 1 is 10 task forces of submarines for raiding 1 has 5 groups of 1 cruiser and 4 destroyers each for patrol and everything else is lumped onto the 3rd group that's just 1 task force as a strike group is that even the right way?

i need to stop yapping

[civic hare]

MY GAME CRASHED LOL

I THINK ITS CUZ THE PEACE WAS SO BIG

didnt crash this time

third times a charm ig

[feral salmon]

mongolia has you covered and u not even taking it bro

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/R_dXGnCGHFs?si=crXd1Yrsh-XjSeFg

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/R_dXGnCGHFs?si=crXd1Yrsh-XjSeFg

[hasty belfry]

Can 4/6 armored divisions work for a tank only run?

I’m gonna try one as communist Hungary.

[pliant condor]

maybe not communisty hungary out of all nations

and template is not what matters

[jagged hull]

can anyone help im going to play japan in hoi4 it my first time

[hasty belfry]

Might not have the manpower to field a line of 36 width until I form greater Hungary.

Actually they do have the red army focus that gives 5% recruitable pop.

[pliant condor]

36 width of tank?

surely manpower is not what limits how much tank you can deploy

[hasty belfry]

I forgot tanks take like half the manpower of infantry for a second there lol.

Although manpower still could be an issue without the Hungarian red army focus since there is the potential I may need to fight Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia all at once.

[pliant condor]

which is why I said tank only is not the best option here

if you want tank only something better would be like fascist hungary where you grab all the land for free

[hasty belfry]

Glory to the Hungarian People’s Republic.

Through Bela Kun’s glorious leadership we shall prevail.

On the medium tank designer, for a mutually exclusive trait, is it better to get 5% armor, 5% defense, or 5% breakthrough?

[pliant condor]

all of those are useless

don't use medium tank designer

[hasty belfry]

That’s the only tank designer Hungary gets.

Besides an assault gun one but I want to use tanks.

[austere roost]

Assault gun is better

Just build spgs

Tanks suck in current version

[lusty charm]

I tried to do the Achievment where you have to restore Austria-Hungary as Hungary, i dont understand what i did wrong

[scenic nacelle]

I think u need something with the Levant?

I don’t remember it exactly sorry

[lusty charm]

so I need Palestine too for the achievment?

[scenic nacelle]

Yes

[lusty charm]

ah thanks

Can I get it directly with the decision which is triggered by the focus or do they always decline to getting annexed?

[ivory wraith]

I cant fkin win the chinese civil war as communist mao

[fallow orbit]

how do i resolve this , my units refuse to start the coastal invasion

[vital geode]

You can only have 2 invasions of 6 troops with base naval invasion tech

If you havent already reached the cap, you can assign divisions by selecting troops and ctrl clicking the order

[fallow orbit]

ahh i see , thank uu

[dull axle]

Also check to make sure they are based properly within range

[sly crater]

is peoples militia sub doctrine dlc?

[near otter]

why is my navy not doing anything?

[lucid torrent]

How to complete this focus?

[robust hemlock]

peak

im german reich

[dusty sandal]

You need to control at least one non core state with one of these resources threshold

[dusty sandal]

Their home base is a murmansk. Move it

[dusty sandal]

Yes, requires ncns

[hasty belfry]

Yeah, tank only ended up not being viable. I was still pleasantly surprised with the industrial might the communist tree brings though, I was able to get my first 36 width tank division into service in early 1939, and the second later in 1939.

The communist path (and Hungarian industry tree in general) gets you a ton of civs, which allowed me to spam out mills.

[neat widget]

capitulating france should do it

[echo star]

whats a leichter division

and is this alright do i change anything

[neat widget]

double it and then add two more motorized

okay

there's too much to change tbh

[echo star]

so

8 light tanks and 5 trucks?

[left glacier]

8 light tanks and 8 motorized

[echo star]

okay thanks

[neat widget]

your division should look something like this

just ofr now use light tanks and any substitution you have on hand for the support companies

of course you have light tank recon

don't do motorized recon for reasons that quickly become apparent

[echo star]

what is that on the right is that

medium tank

[neat widget]

medium spg

[echo star]

spg?

[neat widget]

also do you have dlcs

[echo star]

sorry im a bit new

[echo star]

uh no

i bought the base game

[neat widget]

ah i see

[echo star]

is spg a dlc?

[neat widget]

emulate this design then (and add 2 mech)

[echo star]

these look

really really

recourse intensive

do i make like 5 of those

and use them for ussr or whatever it may be

or will i need a considerate amount

[neat widget]

if you make 5 of them that would be pretty great

but you can probably get 20 of these

since you're literally germany

[echo star]

right

war economy

also is there any videos that teaches you how to form

good battle plans

because all i do is i just put a frontline with infantry and a spearhead with tanks

the front line has offensive line and careful execution

but it dont work well

[neat widget]

yeah

you can't battleplan your way through a solid enemy defense

just use battleplans to build up planning bonus

and micro your offensives

[echo star]

so manually move everyone?

[neat widget]

yeah

most of the time all you need to do for a battleplan is click the enemy border and then draw a line somewhere in your enemy's territory

[echo star]

ok

thats really helpful thanks

[echo star]

is this a good early game panzer division template

[neat widget]

8 motorised

also replace motorised recon with light tank recon

[echo star]

alr

[tepid umbra]

no

I wouldn't even say use light tank battallions or motorized

i'd say not even use tanks if you can't get mecha and mediums

[echo star]

why not tho

[tepid umbra]

they're not very good

and if you can't support the eco/research

[wraith spear]

Idk where to ask but, why does Eva Braun have an eyepatch?

[tepid umbra]

you prolly don't need tanks/can't afford tanks

[neat widget]

mechanized has 30 hp per battalion, increasable to 35 with doctrines

more hp means less losses per org and thus less losses per battle

and reducing losses in this way reduces losses of high ticket items like tanks

[glacial steeple]

hi chat good morning

[glacial steeple]

can be 40 👀

air cav doctrine

[neat widget]

air cav doctrine increases it to 40 hp?!

where's this extra 5 hp?

[glacial steeple]

its one of its buffs

you can get another 4 hp from 10% MA buff

but also like you never get air cav

[lapis rapids]

why are there so many british people here 😭 if only i had a wider front i could have just went around...

[neat widget]

oh

well it's a 10% increase

which is the same as normal hospitals

[glacial steeple]

isnt there a +5 for logi or something

i might be dement

i could swear i saw it

[neat widget]

+5 from logi yes

i'm talking about comparing helicopter medevac to normal hospitals

[glacial steeple]

in air cav not in IE

ok ok

[neat widget]

yeah so medevac starts out with a 5% bonus to infantry HP

and then air cav adds 5% on top of that

[glacial steeple]

i dont think this much hp is that good

but you can make it stupid high

[neat widget]

You can get it to 38.5

and with operational reserves you can probably get it up to 42.3

but at that rate you're using mass assault and are losing out on grand battleplan bonuses

which is sad

[glacial steeple]

ough ill get up

its so earlyy i dont want to show things.. cruel...

[obsidian badger]

Whats best possible defensive division

[neat widget]

a 36-width mech division

if you're facing some seriously hitting enemy divisions

[glacial steeple]

i posted in gen chat accidentally

whatever you can see it there

[neat widget]

i saw

[twin kayak]

Which DLCs are worth buying ?

[neat widget]

no step back, by blood alone, and arms against tyranny would be my highest priorities

i wonder if ncns unlocks forest rangers doctrine without arms against turanny

if so that can be an alternative

then finally gotterdamerung

and then the country packs

[candid abyss]

ok I'll look them up thanks

[neat widget]

honestly they aren't that good tbh

[robust hemlock]

the war ended in spain how to get back my volunteers?

[neat widget]

it hasn't

[small lion]

You don’t

They keep them

[neat widget]

you need to defeat the anarchists

[small lion]

[robust hemlock]

lol

ok

is this army strong @neat widget @small lion

i will invade poland soon with 48 units

[neat widget]

you'll lose to poland

exactly when is this?

[candid willow]

whats up guys, every mod i download from workshop or nexus mod is not downloading in the launcher completely

here is what i have in the launcher

[robust hemlock]

1939

[robust hemlock]

how

[candid willow]

but in the steam workshop the mod is 7 GB

[robust hemlock]

is this bad?

[neat widget]

okay that should be fine

just cover the french border too

[robust hemlock]

i did

bro

i did danzig or war

and it dont accept

do i justify war?

[neat widget]

you should have a war goal already

[robust hemlock]

i dont

somehow

nvmm

how to stop their air superiorty @neat widget

[neat widget]

select airbase and deploy airplanes

and then assign them a mission

and an air zone

[robust hemlock]

like this only?

[neat widget]

yeah

[twin kayak]

Probably waited too long

War goals expire after some time I think

I usually declare directly after completing the focus

[robust hemlock]

i waited too early

like just after the thing was finished

[twin kayak]

And anyway, I started to declare directly after the reassert easter claims focus

You gain a wargoal on danzig I think

[lime elm]

im in my first playthrough and im playing italy, i aleardy took ethiopia but i dont know how to stop the rebellions and the fuel problem. Could somebody help me?

[twin kayak]

And usually you have enough troops to conquer poland anyway

[robust hemlock]

in 1936 ?

[twin kayak]

I even take poland before czechoslovakia

[twin kayak]

To access the focuses, you need the anschluss, for which you need 500k troops

So yeah

Idk about 1936 tho

[robust hemlock]

i took it in 1939

[glacial steeple]

poland is weak

[robust hemlock]

i invading lithuania now

[glacial steeple]

very weak

[twin kayak]

Yeah, but I never got 50k guns this early

[glacial steeple]

all of western europe is like a joke

idk how people fail it

[robust hemlock]

isnt britain strong?

[glacial steeple]

theyre like mid

they do defend themselves at least

[robust hemlock]

what do i go now

[twin kayak]

They just have an ungodly amount of ships and planes

[glacial steeple]

not really?

ai uk has maybe 8K planes by war

[lapis rapids]

mmm around maginot ig? at least thats what i did

[twin kayak]

Well, I mostly failed when trying to conquer the uk

But I’m bad anyway

[glacial steeple]

mostly old

[lapis rapids]

well landing boots on uk isn't extremely hard but the part i find hard is to beat it before japan drags the us into the war

[twin kayak]

Yeah, but you told me not to produce the base germany planes. So after taking Poland and France (mid 1938), I don’t have the 1940s planes researched

And thus my airforce could be defeated by a bee swarm

[glacial steeple]

just dont put it up?

its not hard to not use the airforce

[twin kayak]

Well, since my navy was shit, I chose the paratroopers

I didn’t really know what I was doing

[robust hemlock]

guys do i justify on benelux

[twin kayak]

But I think that navaly invading the uk is the right choice. I just don’t have a clue on how to build a navy

[robust hemlock]

or there is bonus to get on there

[twin kayak]

You got the around the maginot focus

[glacial steeple]

its more optimal than doing the focus

[twin kayak]

I think it’s done in 28 days

[glacial steeple]

so you can do eco/army tree

[lapis rapids]

yeah but you can justify in like 10 days

[twin kayak]

After finland, I would like to play a navy dependent nation. Which one would it be ? Japan ?

[lapis rapids]

so its faster than doing the focus

[glacial steeple]

justifying takes longer but focus time is more valuable

[glacial steeple]

uhm idk, navy relies on air a lot and japan has this thing where you have to be careful with fuel usage

but you could try them

japan without dlcs sucks though

[lapis rapids]

huh weird i remember seeing a 10 day justification sometime before

[glacial steeple]

because it gets a lot of bloat from dlcs

[lapis rapids]

ncns ig?

idk

[glacial steeple]

yeah but 3 nations

[glacial steeple]

no

[twin kayak]

What other nation depends on its navy ? (And doesn’t start with a ton of ships like the uk)

[lapis rapids]

fair

[glacial steeple]

no one because navy is like a sideshow

[twin kayak]

Which nation is the best to learn how to use it then ?

And design ships

[glacial steeple]

if you had BBA you could like unite south america and steal everyone's ships

[glacial steeple]

navy just isnt that relevant

[twin kayak]

Naval invasion

I always get my navy sunk

[glacial steeple]

yes only for that

[twin kayak]

So I wanna get better

[twin kayak]

Well, I failed every time at it, so I wanna improve

[glacial steeple]

we'll get there, theres just no dedicated navy nations

[robust hemlock]

guys idk how to use navy

do i invade sweden and denmark orno

[neat widget]

set it on patrol

also if this is historical you don't need to naval invade denmark

if it isn't you very well might

because historical denmark will have their surrender event where they become a puppet

[robust hemlock]

oh

i am going historical

where is that

[neat widget]

weserübung will give you war goals on denmark and norway

the event should be in denmark's focus tree

[robust hemlock]

where

[obsidian badger]

is weserubung even worth it

maybe more late war to reduce mefo bills

[twin kayak]

do they bring the fancy thing where you can design your own vehicules ?

is no compromise, no surrender worth it ?

[glacial steeple]

rangers

also some doctrines

its good for mechanics i think

people just hate on it because they think all dlcs are overpriced now (which is kind of true but its also the EUR getting stronger compared to other currencies)

PDX does pricing based on local pricing in sweden, and has all sales converted to the other currency, but doesnt like adjust based on people earning less

[twin kayak]

I wanna get Götterdämmerung, arms against tyranny, by blood alone, no step back

and maybe no compromise no surrender

any thoughts ?

[glacial steeple]

pretty good list imo

if you have the money anyway

[twin kayak]

how does playing with a dlc work ? can I play with all of the together ?

[glacial steeple]

yes

thats usually what people do\

it just adds content and mechanics

[twin kayak]

which one ?

I would take industry

but the army one has a special forces multiplier

I don't know

[crystal fossil]

Guys has anyone played Historical Cordon Sanitaire? I need some help with a challenge

[celest shuttle]

hi i try to find the way to make my division to veteran but i have no idea any tips?

[glacial steeple]

mils is lowkey better

but the other one isnt bad

its a hard choice

[cunning stag]

Yall I have no dlcs whitch one should I get firstqq

[feral lichen]

tbh no step back is pretty good

[twin kayak]

Now what ?

ugly border tho

Who should I go after ?

I'm surrounded by germany

but they might be a bit too strong

I'll go after sweden

[glacial steeple]

you can try doing your formable

youre doing great

[twin kayak]

formable ?

[glacial steeple]

scandinavia

its in decisions i think

[twin kayak]

And btw, my borders look so cursed because I wanted to go for the ressources in southern russia

idk if it was a great move tho

economically, yes, but defensively, maybe not so much

[glacial steeple]

you can always give up

but its good to have this corridor

if you fight the germans youll be able to isolate many units east if you can fill the front

[twin kayak]

I will do this

[glacial steeple]

youll have to have action plans to take many connecting rail lines and supply hubs during the short period of time where theres almost no units

[twin kayak]

or try to at least

[dense stump]

hey guys could someone explain to me why when i make an offensive line my units dont do anything?

and when i manually choose them and right click on a province they attack but they start losing and idk why. I send like 10 units and the etiopian province only has like 3

[glacial steeple]

are they equipped, orange bar

[dense stump]

ill check

[glacial steeple]

ok so youre just losing the battle

click on bubble

dont 5 speed

lock in

[dense stump]

well the first few provinces were easy but now its hard

[glacial steeple]

thats because you run out of supply

[dense stump]

mosth of them got half or more

[dense stump]

?

and what does superior enemy mean?

[glacial steeple]

this sucks

[dense stump]

🙁

[glacial steeple]

TBH italy isnt great for learning youre mostly struggling economically

its a bit hard

[dense stump]

well the official yt channel of hoi4 said to start with italy soo

[glacial steeple]

yeah but italy sucks

[dense stump]

what should i start with then?

[dense stump]

oh okay

[dense stump]

so should i just delete the save?

[glacial steeple]

ive been telling phoenix to practice as finland but really any nation where you take time to read everything is good

[dense stump]

so should i pick finland??

[glacial steeple]

finland forces you to because you have manpower issues to solve, and your units are capable of beating the ussr as quality is way better than quantity

but youll have to read and learn

you also get more eco than manpower

[dense stump]

aight ill start a new game as finland

[glacial steeple]

so you dont like make civs or anything you just make mils and forget about anything else, a generally solid strat as anyone

[dense stump]

any tips ?

[dense stump]

ok

[glacial steeple]

first playthrough try to get high public trust, and try to get as much manpower thats fully and well equipped out

and try to have above 0 manpower

the entire game

you should probably have like 10-30K reserves and not more since you need units out

[dense stump]

and how do i do that

cuz i didnt really undersstand the political things in the tut

[glacial steeple]

youll just have to read what gives manpower/recruitable pop buffs

[dense stump]

okay

[glacial steeple]

take your time

your war isnt like super early or anything

[dense stump]

oke oke

[unborn lagoon]

how does one play this game anymore i have over 2000 hours and the ai just plane spams every game i play

literally only reason why i lose

[serene karma]

Whats ur plane design

[unborn lagoon]

lendleased from the biritish

[serene karma]

💀

[unborn lagoon]

8 lmg and lv 2 engiones

[serene karma]

Since ur a small country just use aa

[unborn lagoon]

i wish

[unborn lagoon]

i have max lvl aa in all my coities

[serene karma]

U cant expect to win air war as small country

[serene karma]

In division

State aa does nothing in combat

[unborn lagoon]

i have support aa in there too

[serene karma]

Add line aa

[unborn lagoon]

yep

[unborn lagoon]

they have around 4k planes

[serene karma]

Then u alr have max reduction nothing else u can do

[unborn lagoon]

im still taking 50 cas dmg lmao

[serene karma]

Not surprising

[unborn lagoon]

i really hate how the ai air spams

they dont even have any divisions on my border

barely

[scenic nacelle]

I think the UK fighter is actually kinda good

And how do you have 3:2 odds while being outnumbered by 43

[glacial steeple]

HI CHRIS

[scenic nacelle]

Use ur inside voice cmon 💔

[glacial steeple]

HI GPA

[wet frost]

im unlocking vehicles modules but i cant build them, is it related to research? (im trying build a heavy battle ship but it says design or more modules locks: battery)

[devout lintel]

if u dont have battery, as basic starting u need to research yes,

[wet frost]

but i do

[devout lintel]

y

then put it in ur design,

[wet frost]

oh

i have to put it manually

[devout lintel]

yes,

design ur battle ships manualy.

and crusiers

ect

if ur in naval treatys theres a limit on what u can use tho,

[wet frost]

OOO

now i understand how use the dlc

[glacial steeple]

yeah its research

[half glade]

how do you beat the germans as any nation

ive only ever done it as the uk

but i think i wanna do a smaller nation and try to do it

[devout lintel]

define beat

like u capilaute them without any help

or with help of the allies

[glacial steeple]

outstat the ai

[devout lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/doaenel-kiss-doaenekiss-dantes-illness-gif-26751715

[half glade]

i want to try and capitulate them as switzerland

[devout lintel]

for the acevhiemtn

bc u dont need to capilutate them for the aceviement or wtv its spelled

[half glade]

whats the achievement

ill go for it if there is one

[glacial steeple]

thats cute

[devout lintel]

as switerland declare war on germany and win

or u can do you shall not pass

as switz win a defenesive war without ever losing any alps including ticino

and u can do get 24 states as switz

[half glade]

so whats the best plan for that

[devout lintel]

just defend

forts every where for devensive war

and for declare war on germany

[half glade]

they wont attack me though?

[devout lintel]

just defend aswlel

[devout lintel]

if u got dlc u can make them attack you

[half glade]

yeah i do

[devout lintel]

if u dont pleaase them

[half glade]

case north?

[devout lintel]

they will declare on u

[half glade]

is it this

and how am i supposed to defend against germany and italy

[devout lintel]

forts

and since ur limited manpower

u should make the most out of them

[half glade]

until what happens

[devout lintel]

just buff them

until the allies get them

and u get the acev

[half glade]

i guess i can try

what unit should i use

[devout lintel]

its easy since u have mountains

go for most mountainers and normal infantry

thats bascily most u can do as switz

and anti air with art ofc

[dark thunder]

Aren’t you locked to the milita as Switzerland in most paths?

[half glade]

yeah this sounds a bit err

difficult

[devout lintel]

not sure

u can just change the template no_

[dark thunder]

I mean you can get absolutely broken Militas, it’s worth it keeping them half the time.

[half glade]

which option

[devout lintel]

i havent played switz since i did some uk ace

[dark thunder]

Switzerland has a unique system, you actually change the template with military readiness points.

[devout lintel]

idk man

😭

[dark thunder]

You only unlock the full version of the template designer once you abandoned neutrality.

[dark thunder]

This will change your entire game.

[half glade]

so what do i do

[devout lintel]

i will do sun invasion acev

peace cuh

[dark thunder]

Basically as Swiss you have two overall paths.

Neutrality and building up defenses and going hard on the canton control, with some excursions into the council path

Or being aggressive and doing political focuses with the council control majority of the time with some excursions into the canton control for the defensive focuses.

[indigo sapphire]

is using ALL tank techs and equipments worth it?

[devout lintel]

https://c.tenor.com/HjcihByl_LYAAAAd/tenor.gif

[dark thunder]

I prefer being active about protecting democracy.

[half glade]

yeah ill probably do the middle one then

[devout lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-emancipated-abradol-phlincler-genes-gif-9631208

[dark thunder]

Because it gives more council control, and you start at canton control anyways.

[keen hemlock]

mediums are the best

[devout lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/898634456880001064/a_16448ccd06142822a45b05eddf251eb2.gif?size=512

[half glade]

actually no im doing the top one

bro i genuinely hate these decisions

i never know what to choose

[devout lintel]

read

and see which one its best

.

[half glade]

i cant decide

[dark thunder]

That’s the Swiss tree, it’s incredibly complex and extremely unique and very integrated with its balance of power.

[keen hemlock]

this is like the purpose of switzerland

[devout lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/kcorp-popcorn-karmine-corp-popcorn-kc-popcorn-kcorp-karmine-corp-gif-13934080389530042722

[half glade]

do i want the cantons

[indigo sapphire]

how good are Assault guns

[hard silo]

how could help me learn hot to play hoi4

[dark thunder]

Okay, so, Presidents take one of your advisors, makes them leader. Then that leader has the ability to use a Decision that’s like a busted version of their advisor stats for a short while in office.

Imagine you have a construction bonus advisor, you can keep them for a 5% or whatever bonus as advisor, or make them President where you get a +20% construction bonus that permanently ends after their term is up.

[dark thunder]

You need high canton control for alot of your military focuses that grant buffs and milita buffs, you need high council control to do political focuses, like making pacts with the allies or couping the government with a junta or whatever.

[half glade]

yeah switzerland is too confusing

[dark thunder]

However if you still want to go to war with the axis, it’s extremely easy to piss Germany and Italy off by doing literally nothing so they declare war on you anyways.

Or Ethiopia, sometimes they will declare war on you too.

Switzerland needs to be played multiple runs just to understand the basics, it’s very event heavy and decision heavy and acts like no other country. Even the average TNO country doesn’t hold a candle.

[hard silo]

could you

[dark thunder]

(I said average, Mexico is an outlier)

[hard silo]

huh

[glacial steeple]

switzerland is just bad

[dark thunder]

Switzerland is awesome I love it. It’s not perfect and has its issues especially I think in the political branch but it makes it feel like I’m discovering Hoi4 all over again.

[hard silo]

hey casey could you help me

[dark thunder]

Too many times people get into a rhythm playing Hoi4. They open the focus tree, pick the industrial focuses, make their 40 width soft attack medium tank templates they make every game, research the same things.

Switzerland really throws a wrench in that, forces you to think again.

[dark thunder]

could you what

[hard silo]

help me learn

how to play hoi4

[dark thunder]

Is there something in particular? Plenty of good YouTube videos out there that give it a good run of the basics.

[hard silo]

a lot of things that i dont get

[keen hemlock]

the offical one is fine

[hard silo]

even tho i watched like nearly ALL OF EM

[indigo sapphire]

are MBTs good tanks?

[keen hemlock]

just use spgs

more soft attack

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[keen hemlock]

and thats what matters in sp

[dark thunder]

No I like Main Battle Tanks.

[keen hemlock]

modern tanks also dont get buffs from mios or doctrine

that others do

[indigo sapphire]

i like MBTs

a lot

[keen hemlock]

play millenium dawn

modern day mod

[dark thunder]

Like yeah spg better for the soft attack, but when it gets really late game and the enemy spams tanks you want a decent tank that is a Jack of all trades and can do both hard and soft attack.

[keen hemlock]

you can use mbts ✅

[dark thunder]

Play Equestria at War, I prefer their main battle tank doctrines more.

Also their tech is a little wackier so you can be a little more creative designing them (if you have No Step Back)

[indigo sapphire]

well Modern tanks in vanilla are also GOOD imo

[dark thunder]

You know what I think is really underrated though? Motorized Rocket Artillery. They are fast, cheap, do tons of soft attack.

[glacial steeple]

maybe

[indigo sapphire]

id like to see PDX add a MBT chassis

[glacial steeple]

https://youtu.be/cKN_to2fWQA

watching vids

[dark thunder]

Isn’t that the final tech of medium tanks? MBT chassis?

Where they become their own unit type in the template designer?

[scenic nacelle]

It’s called modern chassis

[scenic nacelle]

Yeah

[dark thunder]

Close enough of a name

But vanilla tech tree bit to short to exploit Main Battle Tanks, I recommend RT56 or EaW for them. Millennium Dawn and TNO have them but there’s not usually a ton of war you engage in anyways to make use of them.

[glacial steeple]

all of those mods have bad tanks

[dark thunder]

What’s your suggestion then?

[glacial steeple]

in those mods? dont use tanks because inf and stuff gets crazy HP and are 100x more cost effective

mech for eaw

idk play like warno or something for realistic ish tactical combat

[dark thunder]

Pop is pretty low in EaW compared to industrial output, Modern Tanks can get pretty busted.

Just naming mods that have good main battle tank mechanics, that’s all.

[indigo sapphire]

i like MD,BICE and cold war iron curtain

becus they add a lot of stuff

aswell as Rise of nations

[hard silo]

yayy

[wet frost]

how i stop export material?

[glacial steeple]

go down trade law

[indigo sapphire]

hello casey @glacial steeple

are modern tanks worth it to build and produce

[glacial steeple]

not really :(

[indigo sapphire]

damn alr

[indigo sapphire]

is there a way to add actual MBT chassis to hoi4?

[keen hemlock]

mabye theres a mod

[indigo sapphire]

like as a seperate tech equipment

[indigo sapphire]

alr

ik that MD cold war iron curtain and RON mods have them

[keen hemlock]

yeah those are set way farther in the future

[indigo sapphire]

alr

i do wanna add new mbt tanks to my hoi4 multi mod

@keen hemlock

[keen hemlock]

yes?

[indigo sapphire]

read above

[indigo sapphire]

this

[keen hemlock]

i read it

[indigo sapphire]

whatcu think?

[keen hemlock]

its your mod

do what you want

[indigo sapphire]

alr sorry

[dark thunder]

There’s already mods that extend the tech tree and stuff

I dunno it just sounds like alot of work that others have already done

[indigo sapphire]

yes ik

my Main fav mod is rise of nations

ive played RON a couple few times

[half glade]

whats the easiest nation to play in eastern europe to beat germany

[inner sparrow]

soviets

[half glade]

apart from the soviets

[scenic nacelle]

Poland?

[half glade]

aint no way theyre easy to beat germany

surely they just slam you

i dont even know where to begin trying to arm up to fight germany as poland

[last arch]

romania

go greater romania, spam a ton of divisions out and up mobilization really early, you can easily get all of bulgaria, hungary, yugoslavia, czechoslovakia, greece by the time germany demands the sudetenland

you could probably get turkey too but its not as free

[inner sparrow]

ofc they are

its ai

[light knoll]

Czechoslovakia

[inner sparrow]

germany ai just like any ai isnt hard to beat

poland is fine, czeck is fine, romania too

[light knoll]

obviously besides Soviets

Poland also quite strong

[keen hemlock]

austria hungary

[half glade]

apart from the fact that 1 of their units gets a million buffs and never dies

[keen hemlock]

prolly gives a good chance too

[inner sparrow]

their units still suck, they still have insane shit stat and the ai still does the same mistakes as others and will bash into anything and kill themselves

its not hard to beat ai if yk what ur doing

[half glade]

well i must seriously suck at the game then

[last arch]

poland can beat germany pretty easily too but romania is probably the easiest

[light knoll]

Romania is definitely the hardest from this list

like

not hard

[inner sparrow]

that’s normal, most hoi4 players aren’t great

[light knoll]

but definitely not as easy as the others

[last arch]

really?

[light knoll]

yeah

[last arch]

i find it hard to imagine its easier to beat germany as czechoslovakia than romania

esp since romania can get czechoslovakia as a puppet

along with all of the balkans & hungary

[light knoll]

you can create Austria Hungary as Czechoslovakia

but even without

Romania is like the weakest eastern Europe nation besides yugo

[half glade]

i just can never beat germany

[last arch]

maybe if you never expand

[half glade]

its so hard and their units are so strong

[last arch]

but you can really easily puppet everyone else

[keen hemlock]

idk the new czech dlc will make this easier hopfully

[light knoll]

you can expand as other nations too y'know

[last arch]

that's true

is czechoslovakia forming a-h only with gotterdamerung

[light knoll]

idts? its not from the focus tree its a decision

you go communist

[last arch]

ah

[honest seal]

What are the two leaders that you can get as the lecture group ascendent with Japan?

[eternal arrow]

Hey guys recently im having fun as philippines as I finally got the grasp and had the chance to learn a bit more on navy. Apparently, I discovered after annexing spain thru hispanic empire path, there are some instances where spanish colonies in africa had cores from the defeated republican spain or anarchist spain. When one run had an anarchist spain core, I released it as a puppet, and the hispanic decisions show that the anarchist spain can be conquered. Late game, i went to war with portugal and gave one province to anarchist spain to have them complete the iberian focus, so after that, they then cored portugal and its african colonies. Then I united with it with the decisions and got all of its cores. With that said, is it possible to give to anarchist spain all states that cant be cored by ph, so then they can core it and I can unite and core it? Long game, but i just wanna see the possibilities

[half glade]

what template should i use as poland to beat germany

[keen hemlock]

this is one way you can core the entire world

[rustic fjord]

Can someone send me and invite to DiscardPixel's mp rp server? When I click on the link on the internet it says its invalid

Pls?

[keen hemlock]

but yes you could gives the states to anarchist spain, who can core them

[keen hemlock]

id do 18 widths for defense and prolly use space marines for my mobile forces

[velvet latch]

who can help me form ottoma w turkey in civilien level

[half glade]

what do space marines look like

[velvet latch]

can anyonepls

[glossy hatch]

should i use 6/0 line holding inf as minor ?

[keen hemlock]

usually i do 18 width inf with medium spaa

[keen hemlock]

9 is optimal

but it depends on your manpower

[glossy hatch]

manpower is no problem because i play in asia

[glacial steeple]

more manpower/economy means you should do smaller

[empty raft]

18?

[glacial steeple]

they take more losses but hold longer

[empty raft]

What happened to 10W Meta?

[glacial steeple]

?

[glossy hatch]

so what should i do now?

am i fine with 9/0 ?

[glacial steeple]

idk ?

sounds fine

[empty raft]

doesn't really matter tbh

depends on your gun stockpile

[dense stump]

is it true that i shouldnt worry about the airforce and naval in early game?

oooh casey

hey

[light knoll]

should be but like. this is not "long game" this is playing until later than our current irl date

the pp cost is crazy

and they have no pp gain

and the ai will use it stupidly

[eternal arrow]

Yeah, but im curious would anarchist spain even take the decision to core a state to begin with, especially it is my puppet?

[light knoll]

idk about puppet

you can play it in coop if you want for funnies

[eternal arrow]

Cuz i was just wondering, if d03 can core a state to begin with, then I can call it a day and say it is possible for philippines to core the entire world because they united with d03

[light knoll]

not the entire world

[eternal arrow]

Would tbh, but the time to core is just... unbearable, so id rather stick to the math

[light knoll]

anarchist spain can't core the entire world

can't core states without resistance and compliance mechanics

but yes it should be possible to core almost all of it

[eternal arrow]

Yes yes

[light knoll]

many states can do that

[eternal arrow]

That's the long wait for d03 spain

Either way, I had fun, philippines was quite a nice country to learn navy for me since I had to build my navy from scratch while having some ships courtesy from annexed latam countries

[velvet latch]

who can help me beat the german civil war in civilan level

[dense stump]

@glacial steeple could u help me?

[glacial steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/what's-this-barn-owl-robert-e-fuller-what's-here-this-is-unfamiliar-gif-17821474186565185401

[dense stump]

is it true that i shouldnt worry about the airforce, naval, motorized and tanks in early game?

[dense stump]

https://tenor.com/view/amimirawr-mimi-alien-green-gif-7850144250814563927

[glacial steeple]

tanks dont get better in vanilla

every chassis is basically the same

[dense stump]

okay

so i shouldnt recruit tanks motorized and airforce?

@glacial steeple and another question its june 1936 im training 5 units and building civilian factories what should i do now?

i would invade poland but i think its too early

[glacial steeple]

make mils

germany gets OP mils

bad civs

[dense stump]

military factories?

[glacial steeple]

sim

[dense stump]

huh

im confused

[glacial steeple]

yes

[dense stump]

so military factories

[dense stump]

?

[glacial steeple]

yes

[dense stump]

okay

anything else?

[glacial steeple]

refineries at some point

[dense stump]

okay

thanks for help

really apreciate that

[velvet latch]

plsss

[fathom thistle]

Does anybody use rocket artillery or is it that bad?

[glacial steeple]

its really bad but it has cool models

[fathom thistle]

Damm

[manic stratus]

anyone want to help me play the game i know how to make divisions kinda and how to research make political desition but in general idk about the national focuses or how to prevent rebelians set by the game or how to invade/defende the countrys

[keen hemlock]

does it give more soft attack than nromal arty?

[glacial steeple]

not really

[keen hemlock]

wdym "not really"

[glacial steeple]

like idk i think it gives a bit more

[keen hemlock]

ah

speaking of rockets i watcha video yesterday here a guy used the meta fighter desig then for his cas he used anti tank gun and rocket rails

do you know if that meta for cas?

[manic stratus]

hey uh guys i kinda clamped down on danzig and they are kinda upset what do i do

[neat widget]

no step back and by blood alone do

[vital inlet]

As the UK should I focus on doing undectected subs?

[brazen panther]

yo any strats here? im gonna go at war with the US UK and France, but their fleet are like x20 my amount. Should i gather supremacy on the UK beforehand?

(im USSR)

((Im not gonna attack from spanish mountains))

[honest seal]

What are the two leaders that you can get as the lecture group ascendent with Japan?

[brazen panther]

plez help, also i got japan puppeted which has a big navy but if i annex them i will prob get huge reisstance

[neat widget]

yeah you definitely could

just make sure you have enough to invade Britain with

[brazen panther]

i got 50 vessels from somehow puppeting german remains in southeast france

[neat widget]

enough ground forces i mean

because britain is probably stacked with troops

[brazen panther]

oh yes i have like 3 army groups

[neat widget]

make sure you can reinforce meme them away

[brazen panther]

and 12 buffed tank units

[dense stump]

guys what should i research

im unsure

[manic stratus]

bro i think im cooked with poland

[dense stump]

gg