ask-for-help-here

[glacial steeple]

what

[bright briar]

hello, how long does it take untill greater denmark arrises event, afterI meet the requiries?

[inner sparrow]

no

[native gorge]

Too much armor?

[inner sparrow]

all extra moduls are bad (3 unused), tower is mid, gear is whatever but not optimized, armor choice is also shit

[inner sparrow]

no?

armor clicks are good but u aren’t doing them for the armor

its for the breakthrough

[native gorge]

A

Oh

[inner sparrow]

either u make a flame tank as cheap as possible for the terrain stats only, which is kinda waste bc u still get the terrain stats from flame tank even if u would turn off all eq

or you max as much breakthrough as possible on them which is a good stat which nearly every div usually lacks

and your design has 2 breakthrough while costing 9.5 ic which is just a waste of ic

[native gorge]

now is this one too expensive?

[glacial steeple]

always use riveted armor first of all

helps a lot

[inner sparrow]

change your turret, change the armor type and max armor click

[native gorge]

Oh right, I forgot I had that turret

[glacial steeple]

why not 3 man medium turret...

its so good

[inner sparrow]

also u can change all modules to munition storage and one for radio

[native gorge]

oh yeah thats way cheaper

[inner sparrow]

a fully optimised flame tank would look like this but its not needed for sp

urs is good enough

[glacial steeple]

also in road

dont armor clicks like not give break

[inner sparrow]

idk

I don’t play bad mods

[native gorge]

Oh yeah

They dont

[inner sparrow]

but thats possible yeah

[inner sparrow]

I swear road has some of the worst changes that make 0 sense

[native gorge]

Yeah they give zero break I'll just delete it

[native gorge]

I just play it for the extra focus trees

[inner sparrow]

fair enough

[inner sparrow]

yeah not needed then, in vanilla its good tho

[glacial steeple]

armor clicks give hardness iirc

[native gorge]

Because all I have is NSB and AAT

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-hump-gif-8365220540763799433

[native gorge]

Maybe if I have enough dlcs I'll remove rt56

[glacial steeple]

it just changes a lot of stuff

[errant chasm]

Hey guys what is a good standard (not special forces) infantry division (not 2 width) for Japan after beating china which I will use againist (Usa/Uk/India)?

[sweet summit]

18 width

[honest lintel]

having all dlcs is still gonna be a big difference from rt56

[errant chasm]

Support companies

I think japan lacks rubber in the beginning iirc. But correct me if I am wrong

So no truck support i assume

[sweet summit]

Probably anti air unless you have good planes
Field hospital (more hp)
Artillery (soft attack)
Engineer (entrenchment)
Cav recon (10% soft attack)

Is what I'd use until you got military vehicles

Special project
After which you could probably upgrade

[opaque garden]

what does rt56 do?

[sweet summit]

But I don't play past 1939

[honest lintel]

the engineering vehicles?

[opaque garden]

broski

[honest lintel]

wtf why your literally missing the entire game

[opaque garden]

wtf are u doing then

[sweet summit]

Focus tree bigger
Better

[honest lintel]

alot

[sweet summit]

Uh forming empires and leaving

[honest lintel]

i suggest checking it out

[opaque garden]

nah im good I have all dlc

[sweet summit]

I did stay past 39 as afghanistan

[opaque garden]

I dont wanna complicate the game even more

[honest lintel]

okay? you dont need to have dlcs to play it or vice versa

its not compliicated

[sweet summit]

There are some fun focus trees

[opaque garden]

learning hoi4 has taken me long enough

[sweet summit]

Like one banana one

[opaque garden]

sultan of aussa?

[sweet summit]

No in the americas

[errant chasm]

The Field hospital requires trucks but regardless thanks

[opaque garden]

nvm

[opaque garden]

field hospitals are goated

[errant chasm]

Indeed

[errant chasm]

I assume you dont play mp

[opaque garden]

mp is butcheeks

you wait like 6 hours to get to 40

because potato chip pc ppl

ppl break the rules

the majors are incompetent

just so much can go wrong

[inner sparrow]

u should kick anyone that makes the game not run on 4 speed till war

[opaque garden]

I agree

[inner sparrow]

with this games usually go 3-4 hours

[opaque garden]

thats reasonable

[inner sparrow]

all depends on how competent host is

[opaque garden]

its just i cant find a good game

or I spend like 2 hours searching for one

but that aint fun

[inner sparrow]

because the good hosts are on servers and communities on other dc servers and not in official

and they usually dont advertise anymore

[opaque garden]

youre gonna shamelessly advertise red barons games arent you?

[opaque garden]

nvm

[inner sparrow]

?

why should I

[errant chasm]

I think all of us are in rb

[opaque garden]

idk

[inner sparrow]

I do play there often but its not like we are lacking players

[opaque garden]

im also just kinda bored with the base game

[honest lintel]

still boring imo

[opaque garden]

im just downloading mods that make the game broken

and im trying to bomb the uk into have no factories

[inner sparrow]

there are some bigger mod communities in mp aswell

but its like hit or miss

[errant chasm]

I mainly play in an aussie server and I can confirm lag and my once mirco broke.

[opaque garden]

https://tenor.com/view/australia-gameplay-australia-gameplay-australia-be-like-gif-25947600

[errant chasm]

But I think the beta apparently fixes it for slow internet

[scenic nacelle]

Isn’t it like 3 speed for China/spain

[inner sparrow]

depends on the players

but yeah for those u can go down on 3

china is over in 6-8months anyways if player is good

[spice cargo]

Hi

Can anyone recomend an interesting minor country to play as

[pliant condor]

4 speed china = alt + F4

[hushed mauve]

iran was fun to me

[opaque garden]

definetly go anarchist spain

it will be such a fun and jolly ride

very definetly

sPAIN very fun

[spice cargo]

Lol alr

[fringe fractal]

why cant my ships go there? or can they go there? idk guys im scared(talking abt eastern north sea)

[dusty sandal]

change port base

[fringe fractal]

so i put them there and its still saying the cant go there

[pliant condor]

ctrl + right click the base

[fringe fractal]

ty but what does that do that normal right click doesnt?

[dusty sandal]

home base mechanic

[pliant condor]

normal right click moves it to a base

ctrl right click set that base as the home base

[fringe fractal]

alr thank you guys

[vital plinth]

How am I supposed to win in mountain this is impossible to breakthrough and I’m using full 36 withd mountainairs

[scenic nacelle]

Afghanistan is torture

How do u have that much of a terrain debuff with mountaineers

[vital plinth]

No clue lol

But getting through slowly

[pliant condor]

first don't use 36 width mountaineer

max is 32 width

you can see you are only fitting one in

also you have no planning, half strength

probably no ranger in the tempalte

[vital plinth]

Planning gives huge buff ?

What does rangers do ?

[errant chasm]

What is a good non-special forces infantry division for vanilla (not-HMM) mp japan againist a uk/usa/india player?

[tribal pine]

i noticed sometimes the focus to make siam join your faction as japan makes them a puppet and sometimes no. anyone knows what's the deal with that?

[shadow flare]

im making infantry equipment yet when im making divisions it says i have none

[opaque garden]

check ur logistics

[shadow flare]

oh ty idk why i have 12k deficit but ty

[glacial steeple]

none

you start with para and marine techs tho

[errant chasm]

But I wanted something to expand my SF cap/front line and garrison filler. Maybe ill ask my host to play HMM instead /s

[glacial steeple]

then just like

make units

not all your units have to push

just have a million 6/0 or whatever units around the place

[errant chasm]

Ight thanks ill just modify the RB china div to not have line arty.

[glacial steeple]

oh for china war?

[errant chasm]

Yeah they had a line arty for the china war according to this guide they made https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g3VZgx3HuKRVHAuhs3wArdq8c3gHkgLBka0s2T-y9pc/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.9i4ulb39udvq

[glacial steeple]

i dont like their china div

but it works in hmm

doesnt rlly in vanilla because you dont wanna have to train units

just add 1 or 2 line arty to the hohei shidan if you can

it helps a lot

if you play with free designs you should also make its inf into paras

[errant chasm]

Isnt that just the RB china div just a standard infantry with line arty?

[glacial steeple]

its not what you start with no

[errant chasm]

Ight thanks

[wise heron]

genuinly how do you gain compliance in your owned states?

[inner sparrow]

u can use sup arty aswell instead of line, it really doesnt matter on the early war div

for china

[inner sparrow]

by putting it on civ oversight

and if its a territory u will get through war and dont start with, by making collabs on the country

[inner sparrow]

u can go around the sf cap with an exploit for vanilla but doubt its allowed in most hosts

even tho it should

[wise heron]

what if the war is over then?

[inner sparrow]

?

civ oversight

[wise heron]

no collab gov?

[inner sparrow]

u cant do collabs on a country u alrdy annexed

[wise heron]

ahh ok ty

[wise heron]

but their resistance grows then

[wise heron]

@inner sparrow please🥹🥹

@inner sparrow pleasssss

[glacial steeple]

wdym

thats like

how it works for a bit

higher compliance means you have to deal with more resistance

temporarily

[inner sparrow]

yeah

[left glacier]

[inner sparrow]

if u want compliance u have to accept that resistance will grow aswell

just make a cav garrison template and put it on civ oversight

it will get compliance over time

[tired spade]

Can someone help me get Wojtek in power?

[glacial steeple]

saw someone lose 500K per year to that as finland

[wraith patrol]

why 30% reliability. I know that relabiality is a worthless stat and whatever but still this hurts to look at

[oak jasper]

Do expeditionary forces use your oil, or the origin country's oil? Romania gifted me some wonderfully terrible motorized/armored divisions, and I'm debating whether to just send them straight back.

[inner sparrow]

because the reliability on it doesn’t matter?

and 30 isn’t too bad esp for flame/light tanks

[wraith patrol]

how can the reliability be irrelevant

[inner sparrow]

because the amount of eq u lose with low relia stuff depends on how bad u are at micro

[oak jasper]

Because high reliability saves you only a handful of tanks and a bit of org recovery, versus just cranking more useful stats to the max.

[inner sparrow]

if ur gonna click into marshes then its ur own fault

[inner sparrow]

this aswell

[wraith patrol]

in singleplayer i always aim for 80, nothing less

[inner sparrow]

and on flame tanks as example the amount u will lose is a big nothing burger if ur decent at managing prod lines

[inner sparrow]

thats fine, as said reliability is okay if ur bad at micro

doesn’t change the fact that it’s not that important

[wraith patrol]

ur right about prod lines though

i find myself having 1k in stockpile in 1940

[wraith patrol]

Ye js avoid marshes and what not but after ww2 and i have to fight ww3 i often times js battleplan

[austere roost]

because it is irrelevant. You only put like 15 flame tanks in each division so the "minimum required reliability if you actually care about reliability" is 1-10/15=33%

btw if you put 400 spgs in your division and you actually maximize reliability your spg reliability needs to be 1-10/400=97.5%

and unless you're putting your divisions on marshes for 3 years, you don't get that much attrition anyway

[glacial steeple]

it only does anything at all when you attrition

[glacial steeple]

meh

if youre gonna force your tanks through attrition hell make it 100

otherwise its like nothingburger

[coral stirrup]

How do I use submarines to sink actual fleets

[austere roost]

Set them to never retreat

But usually you'll need extreme low sub visibility to pull it off

[vital plinth]

Hi I have a bug where when I try reload a older save mid game. The entire game shuts down it make a word sound scratch and then game closes

Anyone else had this how to solve ?

[coral stirrup]

What should I use the tiles then? I always put radar on them

[uneven wigeon]

Can someone tell me on dm how to make naval invasion as small nation like cuba that doesn't have many resources, and some good templates for marines and attacking & defending.

[austere roost]

Visibility is the most important stat for any ship

So for subs you need to max out sub visibility bonuses

Which is also why raiding mio is the best mio in base game

[glacial steeple]

hit chance stat

[worn pendant]

how to do russian civil war (non communist)

[dusty sandal]

sounds like you're trying to load an outdated save/map/mod

[obsidian badger]

can blueprint stealing be save scummed ive been doing it repeatedly and its not changing

[idle arch]

Just for fun like coring the world as facist Australia something random and still powerful and fun

[glacial steeple]

ah

fascist/communist arg

fun

portugal

belgium idk what it has

austria

[obsidian badger]

byzantium like a chad

also raj can just buy the entire world

using the sheer power of tax evasion

[obsidian badger]

how does blueprint stealing work

and can i save scum it

im tryna steal american intercontinental bombers

[vital plinth]

It’s recent save

From different dates like 10 months behind etc

[glacial steeple]

you never get the tech, just research bonus

[obsidian badger]

Do i get the variant similar to license

[opaque garden]

no

u get like a boost

its like soviets sending spies to steal us bomb blueprints

they dont get the bomb

but it sure did speed their research up

[obsidian badger]

Thats ass

[opaque garden]

no?

[obsidian badger]

I need to nuclear war but us has better bombers

[opaque garden]

Intercontinental bomber takes long af

any speed up helps

[obsidian badger]

I need it like now

[opaque garden]

btw u can bomb America even without Intercontinental bombet

just strap some extra fuel tanks on that

I got to 11.5km range

which means from berlin to give or take the rust belt

[minor peak]

its good?

[obsidian badger]

Funny thing i haven’t researched a single large airframe

[opaque garden]

uh in that case

gl

[opaque garden]

no add support companies

[minor peak]

now?

[obsidian badger]

Remove that direction ahh division

[minor peak]

whattt???

[opaque garden]

im just wondering why do u only have 600 factories as ger in 44

did u lose barb?

why do u not have norway

?

😭 😭 😭

[minor peak]

bro its my first time play in gr and i kill ussr

[minor peak]

not important 😂

[obsidian badger]

Norway is annoying and ppl forget

[opaque garden]

do u have uk?

[opaque garden]

no

its quite easy

[minor peak]

no

[opaque garden]

yall just need to understand naval invasions

[obsidian badger]

Don’t wanna garrison

[opaque garden]

use pafas

[opaque garden]

broski

there is a occupation law called no garrison

[obsidian badger]

I mean

[opaque garden]

plus I get manpower from norway

[minor peak]

bro it the template good ?

[obsidian badger]

Defend ports

[opaque garden]

its tiny bit

but still

[opaque garden]

establish reichkommisariat

they have their own troops

[obsidian badger]

rks are ass they always lead to revolts

ESPECIALLY norway

[minor peak]

dont warry about defend im good

[opaque garden]

no?

[minor peak]

oh shit 📉

[obsidian badger]

Ill need to lend lease guns for it

[obsidian badger]

https://youtu.be/hnadb44fyUI?si=vM5dxG0SCPn4iOHw

Isn’t this how it works

[craggy pecan]

where is their demand?? i cant find it.

( road to 56 mod

[supple pendant]

Can someone please help me with this issue? I cant start the launcher and this has been happening the past few weeks when i try to start the launcher

[wraith patrol]

im not sure if u care or remember but i broke the broken games mechanics. the achievement never said to assume leadership. It merely said be faction leader while UK's there and ask for 50 expeditionaries

the games so broken you can break it back

[wraith patrol]

redownload all hoi4 files

wipe hoi4 off ur pc

then redownload

[supple pendant]

I have done it multiple times

Uninstall and re install

[wraith patrol]

did u use revo uninstaller?

[supple pendant]

I just uninstall it from steam

[craggy pecan]

pls help

[supple pendant]

And then reinstall it

[wraith patrol]

yeah bro thats not called a uninstall

u have to wipe all files of hoi4 off

revo uninstaller does that for u

[supple pendant]

Okay so how do i do a Revo uninstall

[wraith patrol]

revo uninstaller is a free app u can get from internet

theres tutorials for it on yt

[craggy pecan]

where is their demand?? i cant find it.

( road to 56 mod)

[supple pendant]

Ok so when i removed the launcher how do i install it again with refreshed files

[errant chasm]

You may want to ask here https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMsbrb5-OSAxUjGVkFHU7zNiEQFnoECBcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscord.com%2Finvite%2Fgqg35bt&usg=AOvVaw38nmlQx3ej3KGqm2T729x6&opi=89978449

[scenic nacelle]

replace trucks with mechanized

replace light tank recon with field hospital

[minor peak]

oh thank u man

[wraith patrol]

You js normally download?

[cloud sluice]

why is the USSR so powerful

they're pushing into germany 1942

[dusty sandal]

it's not
germany's ass

also if you want to push, you better get supplies to the front

[cloud sluice]

I already lost

[dusty sandal]

no?

[cloud sluice]

Yeah?

Soviets 600 division and they’re pushing me back everywhere

[dusty sandal]

i see dozens of divs, manpower, lots of industry

[dusty sandal]

they're pushing you back because you have no supplies

not because they're good

[cloud sluice]

Bruh listen

I had supply

And they pushed me back to an area without supply

[dusty sandal]

no supply = no stats
no stats = not combat-capacble

[dusty sandal]

then it means you either overextended or lacked logistics (stockpiles and such). In such case you probably battleplanned into a wall for no reason

[cloud sluice]

Why are you so nasty

[dusty sandal]

I'm just telling what I think happened, which is what generally happens. It's no big deal, you can recover but you gotta learn why it happened

[cloud sluice]

It happened because Germany couldn’t push and made no encirclements

[dusty sandal]

you being pushed back ?

[cloud sluice]

I had Ukraine but once the Soviets realized Germany was shit they sent they’re army to mine

Which was supposed to be a helping one

[dusty sandal]

you seemingly have air supremacy (no red air icon on theaters), you have lots of factories and say you got pushed back
the only thing I see that can explain that is that you were too eager and this turned into carelessness. That happens. it's normal
what you're supposed to do then is pull back, consolidate

it's not germany's fault. sure, it could've helped but don't blame a dumb ai for being dumb because the soviets are exactly the same, they just don't have to put a million men on coast duty

although I'd say the first step towards fixing this situation would be to adress the bazillion popups and alerts at the top of the screen

[cloud sluice]

I’m saying that since I’ve never seen them do this bad

They usually secure Poland at minimum

Then they hold

Not falling back to the Vistula

In 1942

[summer flume]

how do i urvive this?

[dusty sandal]

you a major power ?

[cloud sluice]

That’s actually impossible since your Greece

You’d cap with Germany

[summer flume]

no

uk is in the faction

[dusty sandal]

you'd need to find a way to exit the faction or become a major power (create your faction or reach 100 factories (dockyards not counted)

[visual vale]

can you set more than one frontlines with one field marshall and have all troops go to each evenly, or must per general

[dusty sandal]

oh then you can hunker down and hope you haven't wasted too much manpower and resources so you're able to both hold and guard your ports

[summer flume]

i cant leave the faction

[summer flume]

uk has a navy around me

[cloud sluice]

I just got declared war on by Italy so the games over

In terms of getting bad romance

[dusty sandal]

you can either use a single general frontline, a single fluid field marshal frontline (advised) or a basic FM frotline (do not)

[summer flume]

also i think my general is bugged cuz he hasnt gained a single xp for any trait

[dusty sandal]

you have an army there + the state of italy shows it's definitely not over

[visual vale]

thanks for your help, what's a single fluid field marshall fl

[dusty sandal]

when you assign the FM frontline, you MAINTAIN the SHIFT key

[visual vale]

i have tried shift key, they still abandon the other front

[cloud sluice]

The UK will puppet Italy so I have to do a world conquest

[visual vale]

i have tried it as italy in ethyopiya

[cloud sluice]

Since I’m stuck bunkering

My tanks had 1500 soft attack too

[dusty sandal]

have you actually assigned the divs from other generals to the front ?

[visual vale]

there were 2 generals assigned to field marshal

[dusty sandal]

is the issue that troops shuffle around endlessly ?

[visual vale]

i shift frontline into both fronts with him

and then all stationed in somalia go to eritrea

[dusty sandal]

look, if you want to just give up you can, it's a singleplayer game so you can just restart, no question asked
but you'll learn more by trying to adapt, even though you may not reach your end goal as easily as you thought

[dusty sandal]

select the field marshal and CTRL+Lclick on the front
then delete the other orders

those divs are just assigned somewhere else basically

[visual vale]

okay I'll try that when I'm back on, thanks for the help

[small pagoda]

I’ve been having a lot of trouble with the achievement “Race for Germany” should I capitulate the uk quickly before the war? I have no idea why it hasn’t fired this is my 5th time trying it

[visual vale]

idk, i don't remember having this issue a few years ago but it's probably all me

[cloud sluice]

Yeah I should have fought the axis while taking Yugoslavia

[vital plinth]

Im playing India democracy war support is so hard to get over 50% and I lose ALOT over casuallty idk what I’m doing wrong to get this bad war support and can’t find any focus that gives more war auppprt

[dusty sandal]

there are 2 decisions to get 5 and 10% war support respectively, one requires radio tech, the other needs you to be at war
you have 2 focuses that give you weekly war support gain (military pensions and the one under the mobilisation and theather specialization path, next to political/economic)
Don't throw away your men, for each casualities you take a hit at war support. Use decisions to smooth this up but most importantly : DO NOT KEEP WASTING MEN AND EQUIPMENT
Some other focuses gives you war support
sending a single attaché gives you 10% flat
you have advisors for war support
if your war support goes under 50% your have a decsionfor 150pp to get more weekly for 120 days (+0.5 weekly)

also, do not pick ghandi

for obvious reasons

[opaque garden]

cmd: ws 100

[compact goblet]

Guys does intel like civil and military intel actually give a major advantage or something

[vital plinth]

hey guys pls help im fighting sovit and i cant maange this supply or get tanks through plus im loosing them like crazzy

i dont know what im doing wrong its a bit frustating thout i undestood the mecanics and then im still stuck and cant do anything in these desserts

[tropic seal]

What template are you using to push

[tropic seal]

Those are mountains that you're pushing into

With tanks

Don't do that

Tanks are terrible in mountains

[neat widget]

Probably clear Europe from the Turks and hope Germany survives and then try to defend the best you can

I don't think you can win like this

[tropic seal]

Invading from the Caucasus is fine

[neat widget]

honestly tanks are less bad as India since you specifically get a buff to tanks in mountains

[tropic seal]

He just needs mountaineers

[neat widget]

They're Greece

[tropic seal]

Oh I didn't know India has that

[tropic seal]

Wdym

I meant where he's invading rn

[neat widget]

That was what the "I don't think you can win this" comment was about

[tropic seal]

Oh wait I thought you were talking about the lion warrior guy

[neat widget]

As for India, yeah India is one of those nations that can last indefinitely

[tropic seal]

Endsieg ahh situation

[neat widget]

It is huge, has millions of manpower, has hostile terrain on its borders, and has hundreds of building slots

But Greece isn't

The Indian player just needs to get a supply hub, take Tabriz and Baku in particular. The situation can actually develop pretty badly for them in the caucasus since the Soviets are on the verge of breaking through

[tropic seal]

Why badly

He's fighting the Soviets

[neat widget]

Oh wait I misread the direction of the arrow

[tropic seal]

Just use mountaineers

[neat widget]

I basically thought they'd do this

[tropic seal]

Easy solution

[tropic seal]

Oh lmao

[neat widget]

true

[tropic seal]

The AI doesn't like snaking anyway

Most breakthroughs can be easily contained

[neat widget]

But you do have to pay attention to the supply, since Tabriz is cut off

and that makes it difficult to respond

[tropic seal]

Yes

[oak jasper]

In fairness, it is a decent chunk of army XP to come up with a good template, plus more on their special forces doctrine, plus potentially a research just to unlock them.

[tropic seal]

Mountianeers would cook here

[tropic seal]

Worth it

[neat widget]

also I don't know how many troops are encircled here

true, worth it

[tropic seal]

He has to fight through two mountian ranges

Mountaineers would shred anything in there

He can send those to Asia later if he's fighting Japan or china

Where there's still a ton of mountains

[neat widget]

True

[tropic seal]

Especially west china

That place is a pain

[oak jasper]

Paratroopers might also work to encircle those mountain tiles, though that's its own investment, plus you still need to fight through the mountains so your paratroopers don't die.

[tropic seal]

Yes

Just make mountaineers

[oak jasper]

And the most reasonable option, option C: becme the dominant naval power and go all the way around. Very reasonable. Less investment than mountaineers.

[tropic seal]

Ong

Isn't that a closed sea

[errant chasm]

yeah

you can't have any boats in the Caspian sea iirc

[oak jasper]

All the way around. Though you can potentially shortcut through the Suez.

[tropic seal]

Lmao

[oak jasper]

(And yeah, no boats on the Caspian)

[neat widget]

yeah west china sucks

but honestly if you're fighting in western china, oof

[tropic seal]

Ten million mile mountain range

[tropic seal]

You have to if they get to 0% surrender limit

[neat widget]

well

fortunately china tends to fall before then

[tropic seal]

Had a Germany game where Japan threw so hard that china had Nanjing and 0% surrender limit

Had to capitulate India to get in from the west

[oak jasper]

Anywho, quick question: are self-sealing fuel tanks worth it for countries reliant on synthetic rubber?

[tropic seal]

Since Japan was eating all the supply east

[tropic seal]

Yes

They're good

[neat widget]

oof

[neat widget]

Also there's continuous conversion tricks

where you make the plane you want first but without the self-sealing fuel tanks

and then you add the self-sealing fuel tanks in conversion

[oak jasper]

Effectively increasing the IPC by a bit due to the inefficiency of a conversion step, but reducing the rubber cost substantially.

Instead of 1x time at 2x rubber, you're spending maybe 0.95 time at 1 rubber to build the base airframe, then maybe 0.2 time at 1 rubber to convert. With those made-up numbers, would be spending +0.15x IPC to save 0.85x rubber.

[neat widget]

To the contrary, you make less planes than you would without these conversion strats; in fact, you'd make the same number of planes as you make hulls from the first step

so you'd still spend 1 rubber at first, then 0.2 to convert, so 1.2 rubber in total

[oak jasper]

I'm not disagreeing with you; the strat looks like it'll cost a few more mils, but save a fair number of synthetic refineries.

[errant chasm]

I never bother to convert anything or make "hull" plane/tanks in my games. Does this impact production/efficiency?

[neat widget]

I mean it makes it cheaper in terms of resources in exchange for making it more expensive in terms of ic

and a lot of countries lack resources and have spare ic, especially late-game, so it's commonly used

but countries like the uk might not need it

[oak jasper]

Or the Dutch East Indies. Somehow, I suspect they're not going to be short of rubber.

[pliant condor]

you save 50% rubber

and lose ic(assuming you have no other conversion speed tech) per plane equal to airframs cost * (0.9 - 0.2 * max(4, tool tech level))

[neat widget]

yeah

[tropic seal]

Unless if Japan locks in

(they never do)

[oak jasper]

OK, correction. Only short of rubber in the short interval between "last few VPs taken" and "nation capitulated".

[tired spade]

Can someone help me get Wojtek in power

[cobalt hinge]

why do my divisions not go to england when i naval invasion and land they just stand in French territory

[oak jasper]

Do you have naval supremacy in the Channel? Do you have enough convoys? Have you clicked the go button?

[tropic seal]

?

And land?

Wdym

Do you mean they invade the go back to France or what

[cobalt hinge]

control ratio 50 procent and 200 convoys

[tropic seal]

50 percent isn't enough

[oak jasper]

You need 150 naval supremacy for an uncontested shallow sea; if contested by a certain Royal Navy, you need significantly more supremacy than they do.

[tropic seal]

It's like 75% iirx

Or something like that

[cobalt hinge]

no they land in england my 6 divisions and the i try to get my army over they dont do anything

[cobalt hinge]

so i have to make more ships?

[tropic seal]

Is your army on a fallback order

[cobalt hinge]

no

[tropic seal]

No if they land you shouldn't need more

If they land that means you have enough naval supremacy

[oak jasper]

So, your initial landing worked, but reinforcements won't come? Did you take any ports?

[tropic seal]

How are you trying to get them over

Frontline?

[cobalt hinge]

yes initial landing worked

[cobalt hinge]

yeA

[cobalt hinge]

i have to take a port?

[tropic seal]

Yes

[cobalt hinge]

thanks guys

[tropic seal]

You need a port to let troops come in on a non naval invasion order

[oak jasper]

Yes. You can only land on non-port tiles with an amphibious invasion order, and your initial landing will starve of supplies without a port.

[tropic seal]

And leave unless if you're using marine commandos

[hexed niche]

is it possible to cap shanxi if you do launch the suiyan campaign focus as japan?

[cobalt hinge]

is there a easier way of taking a port because england has stacked 3 divisions on a port

[tropic seal]

3 ain't a lot at all

[oak jasper]

I usually draw each invasion order to hit both a port and its two flanking tiles; the moment the flanking tiles are taken, I have those troops join in on taking the port.

You can also draw multiple invasion orders at once, letting you drop more troops on a hostile shoreline at once.

[tropic seal]

Paras or marines will dislodge that easily

[cobalt hinge]

paras?

[tropic seal]

Paratroopers. My choice for england

Since they don't need naval supremacy and you will have air supremacy

As germany

[vital plinth]

Its mostly dessert I’m fitting

[tropic seal]

Unless if you're doing something very wrong

[vital plinth]

Fighting in

[tropic seal]

You'll be hitting a lot of mointians very soon

[vital plinth]

That I somehow can’t push

[tropic seal]

Send div templates

[neat widget]

for the desert there is a supply issue

[cobalt hinge]

my naval invasion is capped at two

[cobalt hinge]

i have air supramacy

[vital plinth]

Yeah I can’t spear through with tanks they only take 2 tiles then out of splly fast what should I do ?

[neat widget]

There's way too many Soviets in Turkestan, you need to whittle them down first before you can make large breakthroughs and get to the next supply hub

Or you can make transport planes

[tropic seal]

Yeah then I would usually use paras

[neat widget]

a lot of transport planes

[tropic seal]

Germany has little need for marines

[oak jasper]

In fairness, if he already has naval supremacy, I might prefer to just research landing craft.

[tropic seal]

You'd need to fight through the mountains anyway

Just use mountaineers

[cobalt hinge]

landing craft?

[tropic seal]

In the navy research tab

[oak jasper]

A tech in the naval support branch. It increases naval invasion limits.

[errant chasm]

This, also if a special forces slot is available get mountain recon too

[neat widget]

true

[tropic seal]

Ranger recon you mean?

[neat widget]

well not in turkestan

but in the caucasus yes

[neat widget]

yeah

[tropic seal]

Entering Russia from Turkestan has no supplies

[errant chasm]

What Livadeia said

[tropic seal]

At least caucusus has some semblance of a supply chain

[cobalt hinge]

where do i paratroop

[neat widget]

but the mountain buffs only exist on one side of the mountaineer tree

[tropic seal]

Around a port

[tropic seal]

Yeah use that side

[neat widget]

Can you declare war on Afghanistan?

If so you may just be able to send 36-width paratroopers and take all of their victory points

[cobalt hinge]

thanks

[forest token]

good hoi4 tank division that includes anti air? im trying to find the best composition, and im making a tank that will work well under red air, or good enough to not lose org fast as crap

so like use the format 0/0/0

[tropic seal]

Support ankt air or spaa

[forest token]

which is better derpy

[errant chasm]

I have one from red baron let me go get it

[neat widget]

don't use paratrooper doctrine btw

[tropic seal]

Spaa is almost never used in singeplayer

So support anti air I guess

[forest token]

i guess regular anti air

[tropic seal]

Just 36w half tanks half mech

[forest token]

support isnt enough apparently even against ai

[neat widget]

the supply from afghanistan is better than going from turkmenistan i believe

[tropic seal]

Flame tanks assault engi field hospital logistics / Ranger recon and spaa

[tropic seal]

Support*

[neat widget]

Yeah

[tropic seal]

Is armoured recon better than ranger recon

[forest token]

ty vistula ill see if this works

[neat widget]

neuters 100% of the air defense/breakthrough penalty

[neat widget]

depends on terrain of course

[tropic seal]

Fair enoguh

[errant chasm]

Idk but for me tank recon for tanks, ranger recon for mountains. Simple as is

[neat widget]

in short it assumes you have basically no air cover, which can be the case tbh

[tropic seal]

Ranger recon can work on tanks too I think

[tropic seal]

Soviet gameplay

What the hell is an air force and navy??

[forest token]

so i put your division in and accounte for the fact i havent unlocked battalionslots yet and the org is pretty trash, what do u suggest

[neat widget]

true

[errant chasm]

How bad is the org if its below 30 replace a tank or 2 with mech

[forest token]

also @errant chasm the biggest problem that took me FOREVER to realizer is my org and division generally just gets decimated by the enemy air because i dont do air

in sp atleast

[errant chasm]

Thats the problem, you didn't build enough planes

[neat widget]

Yeah the reason why there are so many spgs versus mech in the division is for breakthrough reasons apparently

[tropic seal]

What

Always do air if you can

[forest token]

i literally refuse

[neat widget]

which you don't need as much of in singleplayer

[tropic seal]

Air is broken

[neat widget]

So

[tropic seal]

Why

Have you not seen what cas can do

[forest token]

no i know its just really annoying tod eal with sometimes ngl

[tropic seal]

Air is literally easier than naval

[neat widget]

this is basically overkill for singleplayer, but still nice to have

[tropic seal]

It's worth it

[forest token]

so in sp id rather not worry abt it

[neat widget]

clown the art is here btw, you can ask them some questions

[tropic seal]

You can't really get high casualty ratios without air

[tropic seal]

It'll save you a lot of time in the long run

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-hump-gif-8365220540763799433

[tropic seal]

It makes battles go by faster

Lose less equipment

Lose less mp

[forest token]

im not worried about casualty ratios im just wanting my tanks not to die in the first day of an offensive

[tropic seal]

Less time wasted microing

[tropic seal]

Air would fix that..

[forest token]

e

[tropic seal]

I thought you were playing like the USSR mate

Make air

[errant chasm]

You need planes otherwise the enemy will shoot them from the sky

[tropic seal]

He's getting deorged by the enemy air

[dusty sandal]

ensure your div has at bare minimum 200hp

[inner sparrow]

if ur doing the tank divisions the one guy sent in die and struggle against the ai then its not about the division but something else ur doing wrong

[tropic seal]

That's why he's so worried about org

[tropic seal]

He's not making air

[inner sparrow]

doesn’t matter

[neat widget]

you ok?

[forest token]

its enemy cas

[tropic seal]

No mate it's just he refuses to make air

[forest token]

guarenteed

[errant chasm]

I wonder why no one can organize when bombs are falling from the sky. Wow!

[tropic seal]

So he's getting casd to hell

[inner sparrow]

even without air in so u one shot the ai with this

[pliant condor]

ever bothered to check how much tank your "tank" division actually have😂

[dusty sandal]

you don't need air against AI if your tanks are good enough

[neat widget]

what if they don't have all of the support companies like said

[tropic seal]

Yes but you do a lot better with air

[dusty sandal]

I know that for sure

[forest token]

exactly

[tropic seal]

You don't NEED it but it's extremely helpful

[tropic seal]

You don't need tanks against the ai either

[neat widget]

also that, since it is quite expensive and large, so make sure your divisions are equipped

[tropic seal]

Why make tanks then?

[dusty sandal]

you just need enough prep to ensure you counter it

[inner sparrow]

you have enough aa in the div fir cas reduction and ai cas is shit, again theres other issues

[forest token]

good tank division that can ignore enemy cas? like it needs to include anti air divisions not just support

[dusty sandal]

funny 1.7k soft atk flat ahah

[vital plinth]

So pull back to my supply and do encirclement ?

[forest token]

well im playing the soviets

and the germans

always have

like a million

planes

[versed rose]

The template recommended has 124 air attack, the break penalty is gone

[forest token]

and make it impossible to push

[pliant condor]

you can easily have more than theirs

[vital plinth]

Also is flame tank the best to use ? Is it only support company or also physical flame tank ?

[tropic seal]

Inf waves with air support would perform better than a few divs of tanks with no air support

[pliant condor]

air is the most efficient way to spend your ic because ai air is terrible

[tropic seal]

Physical

[neat widget]

yeah

[versed rose]

The air isn't going to be the problem with that template

[tropic seal]

And yes

[dusty sandal]

support nulifies 75% air damage
if you can get camouflage expert on both general and field marshal you can basically nulify cas damage to 95%

[pliant condor]

like your fighter is at least 5 times stronger than the ai fighter

[tropic seal]

You're missing out on a bajillion cas damage without air

[pliant condor]

if you make the correct one

[tropic seal]

Just nullifying it is still a huge loss

[forest token]

see, the problem with thus one is it assumes you have your battalion slots unlocked, i cant do shit abt that for teh first half of a war

and if i modify it the org is buns and i cant really change it around much without completely remaking it

[dusty sandal]

yes but you don't need air and some countries might not be suitable for air
air takes way more resources and industry than tanks, especially since CAS will suffer heavy losses against AA1 from ai

[tropic seal]

Air does not take more industry and resources than tanks relative to what they do for you

[inner sparrow]

even without all batallion slots unlocked the div is still good enough for sp, those 2 tanks are big nothing burger

[tropic seal]

If you scale it against their value air is 'cheaper'

[inner sparrow]

ur blaming the template but its 99% of the time never the templates fault

but something else

[neat widget]

in singleplayer tbh

[versed rose]

tf no slot unlock by war

this guy is going to war without doctrines finished

[dusty sandal]

not saying it isn't the best, it's just not for every situations and every eco
you can hardly compromise on air cost both in research and resource/ic but you can build cheap tanks that punch through anything

[tropic seal]

No attached??

[versed rose]

and apparently its the template's fault

make it make sense

[dusty sandal]

yes it does

[neat widget]

well sort of, if you have good templates you can pull off miracles. but you shouldn't need to pull off miracles

[inner sparrow]

vanilla as sov u never get full doctrines

[pliant condor]

that doesn't matter and it's not the issue

[tropic seal]

There is literally no reason to use tanks in sp

[pliant condor]

the most simple thing to check

does your division actually have tank in them?

[errant chasm]

Build infantry and be on the defensive is what I recommened

[forest token]

all ik is i looked nto why i was dying and it is always the enemy cas draining my org at literally mach 10

[pliant condor]

then make infantry

[versed rose]

ah right i havent played since the mastery gain nerf patch, i stopped when that happened

[pliant condor]

if you have 200 infantry you die regardless

[dusty sandal]

if you were to battleplan with budget build 3k ic light tank divs, you would maybe lose some ic here and there. Now do the same thing with inf, you'll burn through plane stockpiles like nothing unless you're fighting early chinese AI

[tropic seal]

Get air of your own then..

The problems with enemy cas not your template

[forest token]

im not doing air for sp though

i agree with francis

its just not worth it

[dusty sandal]

then that's a build issue, you didn't build properly for a no air situation

[forest token]

its so much more simple to just have anti air

[tropic seal]

Burn through plane stockpiles?? How do you do that if you have a good template

You trade like 3:90

[inner sparrow]

the template is still not the fault for why u die thi

[dusty sandal]

CAS gets shot down no matter their stats

[inner sparrow]

send save game

[forest token]

bro ive done this like 10 times which one lmfao

[dusty sandal]

you will guarantee green air at minimal cost but air support is far from cheap

[inner sparrow]

the most recent one with the tank design he sent in

[dusty sandal]

it's probably one of the stuff that cost the most if anything, except strat bombers and expert navbombs

[forest token]

oh no i didnt use that yet

lol

its probably going to work given it has 3 anti air divs

[inner sparrow]

then why complain and argue

[tropic seal]

Yes but relative to tanks

Ther is no reason to need tanks in sp

[forest token]

this guy is saying i need air

[pliant condor]

that doesn't help you

[dusty sandal]

tanks are cheaper

and die less

[neat widget]

yeah in singleplayer you can probably just get away with having inf and air tbh, but tanks can be fun so i won't discount them

[inner sparrow]

support aa is enough, the other extra as doesn’t help

[tropic seal]

But do they do much that inf can't do in sp?

[inner sparrow]

thats to farm cas in mp

[pliant condor]

seriously just build air

[dusty sandal]

unless you drive them through marshes or keep going into no supply areas

[neat widget]

what's even going on btw

[pliant condor]

it's the easiest solution

[dusty sandal]

yes

[pliant condor]

and you can't really go wrong

[neat widget]

what'st he argument even about

[dusty sandal]

they allow for battleplan under red air

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-hump-gif-8365220540763799433

[forest token]

ok, is this true if i dont do any air in sp, like none

[pliant condor]

ai air is so bad that as long as you invest something you always win

[dusty sandal]

inf can't do that in any situation

[neat widget]

tbh sorry about sending you into an argument i don't even understand

[dusty sandal]

well, no anymore

[versed rose]

reduces break penalty, but i seriously doubt he's getting break penalty from axis air, especially if he just gives airbase access to ai allies

[inner sparrow]

no its not needed in sp bc ai cas is shit

[tropic seal]

Inf can do that too..

[dusty sandal]

nope

[pliant condor]

good at logi striking you

[tropic seal]

Brother has never put out a good 36w inf div

[pliant condor]

(hence why you always build air)

[inner sparrow]

fr?

[pliant condor]

yep

[inner sparrow]

never noticed that lol

[tropic seal]

And you're better off microing tanks

[dusty sandal]

you already have so little break, now you take the penality plus get bombed
a tank will not suffer from any crit, even a budget tank, while inf will no matter what

[tropic seal]

If you ever make tanks why battleplan?

[dusty sandal]

because funny tank spam

[forest token]

ok then i dont udnerstand why every time i use a different tank div, model, etc, given from other people, my org drains at abysmal rates, and the only thing i noticed was 2000 german planes logi striking me and cas striking me in the area i happen to not be able to push or hold

[tropic seal]

If you diverted the tank production you would have an air force

[pliant condor]

because it doesn't matter at all!!!

if you can't hold it's not the issue with your tank

[neat widget]

You need like 400 break in your divisions in singleplayer, it's fine

[pliant condor]

like we all know your tank is trash, which is fine

[versed rose]

send save instead of describing things

[dusty sandal]

have you never done a 150 mediums soviet ? it's fun as hell, very easy to get and you don't get pushed from a single tile during barb
all under red air

[pliant condor]

the issue is that you don't have infantry to hold the line

[neat widget]

so you don't really need all of those anti-air but just in case tbh

[errant chasm]

@forest token my recommendation is just focus on infantry and if you can, airplane. Just be on the defensive for now. Dont bother with the tanks. That is my answer.

[tired spade]

Can someone help me get Wojtek pls I can't do ts no more

[forest token]

alr

is the germany i go against different than all of you because deadass i go up against 3000 planes in a single tile sometimes bro

[pliant condor]

if you have 600 infantry on the front, germany won't advance a single tile and you can spend time microing your tanks

[dusty sandal]

keep in mind the base penality of 30% under red air
Inf cannot, in under any circumstance, get up to 600 breakthrough. that's straight up impossible

[tropic seal]

You don't get pushed with inf either brother ifn are literally better for defending

[dusty sandal]

but not for attacking, especially not under red air

[pliant condor]

if you have 200 infantry, your frontline break instantly and since you are under red air and your tank has zero stat they die anyways

[dusty sandal]

do you see my point ?

[tropic seal]

If you didn't make the ranks you wouldn't have red air

[pliant condor]

if you have 1000 correctly designed fighter you would kill that 3k in a month

[neat widget]

i mean yeah but that's also inf, you can afford more casualties and space marines are a thing

[tropic seal]

Could topaz explain this I gotta go for a bit

[neat widget]

you can still get like 400 breakthrough even without using space marines

also since inf are cheaper you get more air

[vital plinth]

Ive never designed a flame tank before idk what is best way

[neat widget]

which means you don't suffer the (it's actually 35%) penalty

[neat widget]

maximize breakthrough

[versed rose]

you dont get the doctrines you need for this value as Sov, inf break as sov is pretty low because doctrine mastery is cooked

[errant chasm]

Actually Liv reminded me of something you could put one Self propelled anti air into your infantry (doesnt have to be all of them) to make a space marine while fighting air. You could convert your old tanks into SPAA

[dusty sandal]

My point is, with tanks you don't need air which requires a lot of research and resources in itself
you can't do that with just inf, and yeah, sure you could spam out CAS but that takes a LOT of industry to both start off and keep up as CAS dies stupidly fast to support AA

you don't need air in all situations. It's still the best but it's not good when you can't afford it. All countries can afford a budget tank at 3k ic, and I mean ALL. it requires minimual tech, 5 factories on tanks for 4 months and guns and will punch through anything the ai throws at it. don't have air ? slap a support AA or 2 mot AA in it, with a general fit for that, under superior firepower doctrine for recovery rate and boom. No more need for air

that's it

Air is best, but it cost a lot and thus isn't required and doesn't make tanks obsolete by its mere existance

[pliant condor]

go sealion with tank?

also mot aa doesn't help you at all

[dusty sandal]

that's bait

[pliant condor]

there's no situation where tank helps you compared to making more inf

[dusty sandal]

kills AI cas quicker than they can replace

[pliant condor]

but there's a situation where you do have to make air

[neat widget]

if you reach level 3 on all doctrines you should be fine

[pliant condor]

that's a very realistic concern while playing like 50% of the minors on the map

[dusty sandal]

well, I'm done. I've written everything

[neat widget]

and get most of the breakthrough you need

special forces are really powerful

[vital plinth]

What about soft attack ?

[neat widget]

that's also something you want to maximize

and yeah, with tank divisions like that you get 1100+ soft attack

which is crazy

[vital plinth]

My flame thrower only gives 5 soft nothing else

[neat widget]

oh wait

[vital plinth]

When I put it on designer tank

[neat widget]

you're talking about flame tanks

yeah there maximizing breakthrough is better than maximizing soft attack because flame tanks get more debuffs to their soft attack than their breakthrough

[keen hemlock]

does building forts reduce autonomy

[vital plinth]

Im a bit confused how it works I jsut got the new DLCs only been designing medium tanks atm

Just unlocked flame tanks it 1943

[glacial steeple]

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68

[vital plinth]

What about tanks how should I use them I know to break through and come behind and trap but evrytime or many time I get low on supply fast and then they move so slow

Even with logistic company it keeps happening

[errant chasm]

Check the supply/railways. If its red its not being replenished due to logistical bottlenecks

[cobalt hinge]

why cant i naval invade

[errant chasm]

I know this is late but I forgot about that you could replace the anti air regiment with a Self propelled anti air battlion and put your self propelled artillery tanks there. My bad for mocking the soviet air eariler.

[forest token]

nah ur good

thx

[pliant condor]

"there are no units assigned to the order"

ctrl + left click to assign divisions

be mindful of the max number of divisions you can assign to an order

[cobalt hinge]

i assigned 6 marines two naval invasion and 3 marines to a another division

[pliant condor]

yeah

then wait for it to be prepared and launch

[cobalt hinge]

thanks

[visual vale]

it didn't work

assigning fronts with field marshall looks bad

[vital geode]

Did you hold shift when making a field marshal frontline?

[marsh jackal]

How much does infrastructure actually matter, and should I prioritize it or factories?

[visual vale]

i done it all

[tired spade]

can sm1 help me get wojtek

[glacial steeple]

???

[errant chasm]

I already answer the guy's question basically in the beginning of the game the last battalion of each regiment is locked. I suggested to replace the anti-air with a SP anti air and put the SPGs on that regiment too.

[gusty briar]

Anyone else having an issue launching the game from steam? Was working fine for me this morning and now the launcher just wont pop up? When I try to quit from steam it also wont quit unless I shut off my computer, it just has the button grayed out saying stopping

[fossil rain]

what option do I choose, (I originally choise the, "ask the soviets for help", but I got this event again without that option

[untold monolith]

I think this is just a steam bug. restart steam instead of your pc

[gusty briar]

Hm well now it doesnt get stucktrying the game just tries to open the launcher for a second and then quits

And the button turns back to the green play button

I validated the game fiels too, guess ill try un and then reinstalling

Hmm well didnt work but it seems like the issue is with the launcher, I can launch by skipping it, but I guess i just cant change my mods 🤷

[compact goblet]

Guys does intel like civil and military intel actually give a major advantage or something

[nova talon]

For doing civil war to break free as a puppet, is it advisable to do it as early as possible to get Mils or just before the start of Germany declaring war?

[vital geode]

Do what historically happened and form United Front

Aka, dont kill him

[fossil rain]

gotcha, will I eventually form a communist China though in the end?

thats what I want to achieve

[vital geode]

You got the infiltration decisions and such

[fossil rain]

ooh, alr

[vital geode]

It might be an uphill battle, but let the nationalists blow themselves up

Just make sure you dont die yourself

[errant chasm]

Atomic shrimp reference. I used to watch his scam baiting content lmao

[fossil rain]

ohh you noticed, nice lmao. I used to watch him a ton long time ago, just thought it would be funny to keep this username

[fossil rain]

interesting, alr, thanks a lot

[low vector]

Im playing now as the USA. Are spotter fleets worth making? How many should i have for the pacific and atlantic?

[naive plaza]

Anyone able to help me understand why my economy and building speed sucks ass

[lament dome]

how can i do this focus? am i locked out even though i havent gotten a new leader through caliphate yet?

[naive plaza]

In Greece in 1940 vanilla all dlc did every possibly economy related focuses and factory related research I still feel like my country is severely lacking

[rustic canyon]

is this fine for an early game escort destroyer

or shd i add depth charges

[austere roost]

For convoy escort or screening?

[naive plaza]

What am I doing wrong?

[austere roost]

You just can't up your conscription laws yet since you're non aligned if you're playing historical

[naive plaza]

Meaning

I’m just cooked until war?

Literally cannot build a good army till then?

I only have 26 divisions rn

[rustic canyon]

whats the difference

mainly for screening ig

[austere roost]

Convoy escort requires depth charges since you're fighting subs

[rustic canyon]

ya screening then

[austere roost]

If it's just for screening, unless you have a lot of industry just build the cheapest destroyer on the most recent hull

Destroyers soak up damage and don't do much else against surface fleets

[rustic canyon]

so dont even need a ton of torpedoes?

[austere roost]

Yeah that's game rules you can't change it

[rustic canyon]

or battery and stuff, just the most basic stuff?

[austere roost]

No leave the top row empty. And just use the most basic stuff. For engine, try to make your destroyers able to keep up with other ships

[rustic canyon]

what about bottom row

go with most basic?

[naive plaza]

Well I’m at war and extensive conscription where’s my MP

Really don’t wanna do scraping the barrel

[tired spade]

can someone help me get wojtek

[austere roost]

Yeah except engine which should be fast enough to not drag the fleet speed down, although that usually is a problem with bbs

[balmy dawn]

When you use Exile forces to as manpower for things like Aircraft... do you ever lose those Air Wings, if the country is libertated?

[tepid umbra]

huh

[tribal fox]

Is Kohoda Japan or non-Kohoda Imperial Japan the better path?

[wraith patrol]

as india who has good tanks and is part of the GEACPS, what is the first offensive move that i should make according to you guys? Invade iran with japanese support?

Im forced to invade axis btw

[elder wren]

Is this enough of a buildup for a naval invasion of GB?** (Not part of Axis, playing as Italy)** (U.S has joined with G.B) (Soviet Union is at war with Germany) (1942)

[tepid umbra]

why so many dockyards

[elder wren]

i havent done much navy stuff so idk how much is needed

and GB is scary to me

[tepid umbra]

like

30 prolly 🤷

maybe 20

[tepid umbra]

naval bombers DESTROY them

air is king

[elder wren]

oh ive been making just a bunch of fighters and transport planes 😭😭😭

[tepid umbra]

why transport planes?

fighters are good

[elder wren]

i started out paradropping in france

[tepid umbra]

I personally like to make fighters and CAS, and if I'm prepping a british invasion I have 5-10 factories on naval bombers

[tepid umbra]

but you only need like 100 transport planes for that right

[elder wren]

yeah but its been running for probably a little too long

oopsies

[tepid umbra]

well then

you definitely don't need those dockyards

sounds like a paratrooper invasion is possible 😭 ✌️

[elder wren]

maybe not idk

[tepid umbra]

what are your planes??? 😭

[elder wren]

like every tier of fighter

[tepid umbra]

do you have the air designer dlc

[elder wren]

i have 0 dlcs

and im getting invaded from germany so i think this is where i call it for the night

one of these days im going to remake rome

[kindred summit]

yo can someone help me, tryna get a mod running but the launcher wont open

[arctic aspen]

anyone know much about the communist tree for usa?

[vital geode]

You do a civil war

You get wargoals

That's about it

You get some free advisors

[arctic aspen]

@vital geode i can beat civil war np im mainly just trying to actually do the secure china focus

[vital geode]

That might have changed since NCNS

But I guess it is just you making a faction with commie china

[tropic seal]

How do you have red air with five thousand planes

[arctic aspen]

@vital geode they always reject the offer, im guessing you have to do it early before they join the chinese united front

[teal bobcat]

So for multiplayer do meta usa heavy fighters outscale german fighters?

[vital geode]

Oh, you arent getting it before united front

I guess you wait until the Chinese civil war resumes

[arctic aspen]

@vital geode so after war with japan?

[oak jasper]

So, I decided to do the Germany Thing (i.e. invade Poland) on Jul 10, 1940. Historical focuses are on, though I did deviate slightly (e.g. getting Czechoslovakia via fascist revolt).

For some reason, France is... not in the Allies? They're in their own faction with Yugoslavia? Is there a common reason for them to do this?

[shrewd night]

Im playing with ottoman empire and its 1945 ive secured africa from allies and spain and the mainland of UK but no peace confrence because USA still exists, germany and soviet still fighting and am holding my borders fairly well. UK is trying to get its mainland back what should i do just try to defend them and target the other majors or trying to conquer USA and if so what would be the best way to do it?

[untold monolith]

probably deal with the ussr first so germany will (hopefully) send you forces when you land in the us.

best way to land in the us without american faction members is probably by hopping from iceland to greenland into canada/us if you can

its going to be painful btw considering its late game

[shrewd night]

im not with axis cant seem to get in and italy does declare on me when i remove troops from borders

[oak jasper]

Question: for a CAS aircraft, should I be doing 2x small bomb bays + heavy bomb locks? The bomb bays seem to add less weight, though it doesn't let me fit more than two.

[shrewd night]

and soviet is weakened from axis as im in war with soviet and i plan to try to defeat us while axis war with soviet to invade axis easier as theyll have a huge front

[tropic seal]

I always do three heavy bomb locks

On improved airframe

[hoary glen]

Rather only use bomb locks. Either only heavy + range and you only use that plane in green air or you use two normal bomb locks and a heavy to add defensive modules like dive breaks.

[tropic seal]

If you have the proper fighter template you'll have green air anyway

[hoary glen]

I'm just saying stuff before the inevitable "you're design is terrible, I just lost all my planes"

[nova talon]

For doing civil war to break free as a puppet, is it advisable to do it as early as possible to get Mils or just before the start of Germany declaring war?

[hoary glen]

Whom are you playing as?

[nova talon]

British malaya

Going fascism then joining nazi , so as to get the achievement?
Or playing as dutch indies is easier?

[hoary glen]

I mean you can try it. You're likely to get naval invasion spammed and will get raided between your islands, but that's about to happen anyway.

I don't know what you need to do for the achievement

[hoary glen]

You deviated from the path.

[oak jasper]

I've realized it'll be quite convenient, since I think it means I get to cap France in a separate peace deal and not have to deal with Free France in the Allies.

[hoary glen]

Yes

[nova talon]

Core malaysia / Sarah / singapore / Indonesia i think

Yar I got naval spam at 1940s

[hoary glen]

If you increase conscription the manpower only slowly ticks up. You can see you are at 4% and it's growing to 5.5% multiplied with the effective manpower. You're only conscripting 0.012% per month, so it'll take a while

[oak jasper]

... Speaking of manpower: let's say I'm at 10% recruitable pop, and then take Total Mobilization. Does that put me at 9.7% recruitable pop, or 7%?

[hoary glen]

I never did that, but it feels simpler to do as Indonesia bc you don't need to Naval Invade anywhere. But I don't know how easily you become independent there

[hoary glen]

7%

[oak jasper]

I'll... just stay at war economy for now, then.

[hoary glen]

But you can click women in the workforce to get the mp back for -5% stab

Deciding factor for getting total is can you afford the coal

[oak jasper]

... True. And right now, I've got stability to spare.

[tropic seal]

Total mob usually isn't worth it

Take it on like ussr

-3% pop is a lot on most nations

[oak jasper]

Use it with China, got it.

[tropic seal]

Yes

China probably doesn't even have enough civs for the speed buff to matter ngl

[oak jasper]

Somehow, that nation could probably be on disarmed nation, take total mobilization, and still find 10 million wildly underequipped men to throw into the front lines.

[tropic seal]

You usually make day one mils

[dusty sandal]

You literally have a decision to nullify that

[tropic seal]

For a stab hit I'm playing France brotha

One more stability hit and it's over for me

[dusty sandal]

The only time you don't take total mob is when you're pp starved and can't afford the 100pp decision

[tropic seal]

Coal sucks too

[dusty sandal]

Since last coal patch it barely even matters

[tropic seal]

What did it change?

J forgot

[dusty sandal]

Techs now give more coal and factories consume less

[tropic seal]

Oh

[torn mortar]

how do i invade the uk?

[lavish torrent]

cant

or paratrooper

[hollow linden]

Naval invasion

[torn mortar]

gotta wait 60 + i dont have much of a navy

i tried paratroopers but uk unexpectedly is guarding their coastline

[hollow linden]

Yea then make a navy

[torn mortar]

ok

[light knoll]

group your entire navy to ome group and put it on patrol in one region. the ai sucks at managing their navy so you'll kill it with no issues

[torn mortar]

alr thanks ill do that

[umbral lintel]

XI-an incident never fired... Now I'm stuck with chiang in the fascist tree.... Is there a way to still get rid of him?

[vernal knoll]

if i change a militia template i still get the bonuses?

[lyric ermine]

Hi, I was trying to use the planning bounes exploit, but it seems it doesn't work did it got patched?