ask-for-help-here

[heady skiff]

Historical off so Portugal went Communist and joined the Allies cus they declared war on Spain

[jade sparrow]

then idk

i almost never play non-historical unless i modify the focuses manually

also does anyone know how to remove the org debuffs for Belgium?

[heady skiff]

Im just slightly outnumbered

And out gunned

[jade sparrow]

try to save personnel, train a shit ton of inf, retake spain via france

[heady skiff]

France isnt in the axis 😭

[jade sparrow]

no like

a bunch of troops passing by the corridor in nono germany

[opaque garden]

is this a good tank design?

light tank

[jade sparrow]

1. Land Cruisers are definetly NOT light tanks
2. Land Cruisers are bad for singleplayer if youre playing singleplayer
3. idk i dont know anything about land cruisers

[heady skiff]

Yeah I am abandoning Spain

[opaque garden]

look at the stats

just look at them

isnt it mesmerising

[jade sparrow]

idk man

i barely know how to make my own infantry divs

[opaque garden]

i am a bhutanese land cruiser division after all

[heady skiff]

Holy cass 😭

[calm cloak]

can someone tell me a good template mostly offensive and for naval invasions

[fathom thistle]

check pins

[calm cloak]

oh yea am blind

[heady skiff]

Uhoh

[zealous coral]

Sorry I have question.if I want to do convert tanks,like convert cheap tank to expensive tank,what should I do for the design? because it's always unbalance production or not able to convert it(same chassy) completely

[jade sparrow]

gg you dead

[heady skiff]

Dw about it trust

[heady skiff]

I have complete trust in my Generals

I have no trust in mysefl

[fathom thistle]

Steiner will attack trust (those who know)

[heady skiff]

Steiners counter attack will arrive!

[tired spade]

can someone help me get Wojtek in power? I am new to hoi4 with only like 200 hours.

[heady skiff]

Gulp

[fathom thistle]

Just get in the bunker at this point

[main yew]

go monarchist, reject all kings and when romanov come accept as queen invade country youll get wojtek as general capture moscow event will pop up about anastasia being fake romanov replace her by wojtek

[tired spade]

You get crushed no matter what you do if you try to fight russia

[main yew]

How do you know

[heady skiff]

Nah trust we got this 😭

[tired spade]

because I have watched every guide tried multiple differnet ways I just can't do this

[main yew]

Just get collab government make good tank division improve logistics system by getting spirits and use tanks to encircle the russian divs ussr has bad debuffs so its easy

[heady skiff]

Have some faith

[tropic seal]

If you're red bubbling on defence fallback to rivers and mountains

[heady skiff]

Dw thats my attack 🥀

[pallid wadi]

gg

[tropic seal]

Ah

[main yew]

why are you using light tanks

Medium tanks are better

[heady skiff]

Dw about it

[main yew]

you need to have some offensive divs

[heady skiff]

I aint hear no bell

[opaque garden]

did i miss a update or smth?

[oak jasper]

Does the US have any sources of early-game war support other than Selective Service Act and sending an attache to China? I've been at 28-29% war support for a year now, and it's frustrating being so very close to that magical 30% threshold.

Ooh, and Panay Incident just fired. The Giant Shall Awake!

[opaque garden]

cmd: ws 100

[vital geode]

Local Dutch Cyclist when he is late for work

[opaque garden]

as a dutch person I can comfirm this claim

so can marijn i think

[rustic canyon]

does a civil war still trigger in italy even if you lose a single state with bba

ive seen a whole bunch of complaints online and im wondering if its still the case

[heady skiff]

Steiners counter attack is real 🥹 ✌️

[vocal breach]

Im trying to restore byzantium

[fathom thistle]

Moustache man kicking his feet rn

[vocal breach]

the focus says to restore it to keep doing it but nowhere in decisions does it say restore

[heady skiff]

He was assasinateds

Because the war started at 1937 and my country had NO support for Hitler

[fathom thistle]

Oof

[stuck garnet]

Based

[vocal breach]

did i do something wrong orrr

[heady skiff]

Nah I got the goat Eva Braun

[vocal breach]

why cant i form

[heady skiff]

World tension

[vocal breach]

what about it

[main yew]

How to do navy

Best doctrine

Best template?

[drifting socket]

best template for war? no matter how many resources. like for china, romania etc

[main yew]

Yeah

[drifting socket]

it was a questing xD

[main yew]

?

[drifting socket]

..

[stuck garnet]

idk i played japan

turns out you really needa conserve your resources for japan

historically accurate btw

[uncut narwhal]

36w tanks, 10 tank battalions and 10 motorized/mechanized for offense, 16w infantry with engineers and support arty for defending

[cobalt hinge]

why are my ships not doing anything even though the have fuel and are set to naval patrol in the english channel

[drifting socket]

and for italy a division?

[uncut narwhal]

use 36w mountaineers for attacking

[drifting socket]

with arti right

[uncut narwhal]

only support

[drifting socket]

but i cant even get so many into 1 division it has a limit

[uncut narwhal]

deploy more infantry to make the cap higher

[drifting socket]

ok thank you

[tired spade]

Can someone help me with getting Wojtek, I am new

[vital plinth]

Does factory output affect civilian factories?

[wind yoke]

why cant i join factions as the prc?

i am doing the unwilling diarchy path

[acoustic zephyr]

is there a way to stop getting mission from mussolini while playing italy without getting rid of him as a leader

[pliant condor]

no

[vital plinth]

It says a stat under a civ construction output : 1,60-1,80

Or what is that ?

Infrastruktur?

[vocal breach]

can someone tell me why i cant form

im fascist

i have all the land

[acoustic zephyr]

can you show me your focus three?

[pliant condor]

civ speed is two things multiplied together

infrastructure level(100 + 20% per level)

and construction/building-specific construction speed

[acoustic zephyr]

its because you shouldve done the focus horror and fear otherwise you cant form it

[vocal breach]

but shouldnt it have been fixed with a focus.ignoreprerequisite and doing the other side

[pliant condor]

you need to do this focus

uhm

oh you focus.ignoreprequisite

[acoustic zephyr]

hmmmm then i dont know how to fix it

[vocal breach]

yh thats how i did the other side

[acoustic zephyr]

all i know is that your supposed to do horror and fear but besides that idk how to fix it

[pliant condor]

this is the requirement for that decision to be visible

so yes

you need to do the other focus and be fascist

[vocal breach]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shoebill-bird-6

i have to do a whole other game

[acoustic zephyr]

that sucks a lot

cant you make it with commands to reform byzantium?

[vocal breach]

i dont know all the commands

[pliant condor]

ok try this

eval_effect complete_national_focus = GRE_horror_and_fear

it should complete the focus for you

then you would see the decision

[acoustic zephyr]

they shouldnt lock reforming byzantium behind horror and fear in the first place

[vocal breach]

okay it did it

it focused

what next

oh ok nvm

[acoustic zephyr]

you can reform it in decisions

[vocal breach]

i love you all

[acoustic zephyr]

nice man it looks great

[vocal breach]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nanobombs-cat

if i set my party back to democratic do i return to being hellena

[acoustic zephyr]

no that isnt possible for as far as i know

you cant change your goverment unless with commands

i wouldnt know if your name changes tho

[vocal breach]

ok

Damn Slovakia joined NATO as i was about to invade them.

[slate igloo]

WHAT
Is this normal??

[vocal breach]

https://klipy.com/gifs/enojado-27

[acoustic zephyr]

it doesnt look like its supposed to happen tbf

[slate igloo]

yeah ig

[cobalt shadow]

How to force yougo to refuse the puppet when you play italy

So you can just annex

[acoustic zephyr]

you just annex them?

you dont have to accept

you do it in decisions right?

[glacial steeple]

justify wargoal

[cobalt shadow]

You don’t have a décision on tree

It’s either you manually justify and it takes a long time

or you propose to submit and hope the refuse somehow

[acoustic zephyr]

do you have the dlc by blood alone?

[cobalt shadow]

Yeah

All DLCs

[livid beacon]

Its this template good for france

[uncut narwhal]

nope

as france

you should be using tanks against germany

[livid beacon]

Check general bruh

U answered to late

[uncut narwhal]

yo mb bruh

[tepid umbra]

he doesn't have no step back

special force cheese would prolly be better

[lament quail]

are light tanks worth it

worth using

as italy

[uncut narwhal]

ohhh yea then nah

[tepid umbra]

no

[lament quail]

hm alright

[livid beacon]

I dont use special forces

[tepid umbra]

you should

[wet crater]

Uh

honestly

I found that with the starting divs you can hold if you go napoleonic, take the benelux

And spec hard into air power

Just change everything into the starting infantry div

[uncut narwhal]

or just get tanks and slam the ai?

[wet crater]

Oh no

You slam the ai with the air power

With that method

Because the cas damage gets ridiculous

Allowing for easy encirclements after they grind into you for a little bit

[uncut narwhal]

yea cas is overpowerd

[wet crater]

This isnt a bash on tanks by the way, tanks have a place

[timber flower]

my save files keep getting corrupted how do i fix this?

[wet crater]

But france kinda needs the air power otherwise the germans cas you to death

Tanks can also be cased

[uncut narwhal]

if you have aa your kinda fine

[wet crater]

Though I honestly should learn how to make a not shit tank unit

Pretty sure mediums are best

[wet crater]

I mean, true i guess?

[uncut narwhal]

for france i always go for heavies

[wet crater]

Realistically france wants to whack down a lot of mils and build a lot of planes and guns early

[uncut narwhal]

when you do tanks you only do aa

no air

[wet crater]

But after the initial plane push diverting some of that to make tanks is easily a good idea

On paper

[uncut narwhal]

imma send a screenshot rq

[wet crater]

Really heavies?

[uncut narwhal]

yea

[wet crater]

Arent lights the crap ones?

Or is that heavies

[uncut narwhal]

no lights are horrible

so

this was from my france game

as you see i had 10 heavy tanks

and no air

[wet crater]

Again I am not trying to diminish what your talking about

Because jeez

Its clearly effective

That is democratic france?

[uncut narwhal]

nah im sure air is also very strong against ai germany

[uncut narwhal]

yea

[wet crater]

I did monarchist france

And fought them two years early

Which means less industry

And research time

Making it harder to spec into tanks

[uncut narwhal]

oh yea nah you wont have tanks by then

[wet crater]

Via sudeten refusal

[uncut narwhal]

i only really started pushing in like 42

cause i was waiting for barb

which never happened

[wet crater]

Yeah if you wait the like 1-3 years longer

[uncut narwhal]

also some tank stats

[wet crater]

You can spec big on tanks easy

[uncut narwhal]

yea i really had to wait to get those 10 tanks out

[wet crater]

But they are the best tanks possible i assume

[uncut narwhal]

should be

[wet crater]

Air also shreds the soviets

But my issue is france has no manpower

[uncut narwhal]

it just shreds the ai in general

[wet crater]

So when I go as france to do a barb I stall out

[uncut narwhal]

go desperate defense doctrine and your fine

[wet crater]

Yeah I think thats the error I am making is not doing that

[wet crater]

Yeah by 42 you had the time to research those heavies

[uncut narwhal]

uhh

im on basic chassis

or interwar

i cant remember

[wet crater]

Fighting them in 1938-39 is like

You kinda dont

[wet crater]

Thats, certainly a method

Clearly its working though

[uncut narwhal]

i could send you a screenshot of the design if you want it

[wet crater]

Honestly I kind of want to see it now

Because I want to figure out how to use tanks to break the ai late game

For a wc someday

I have gotten pretty damn close multiple times

But I stall out when I go to cap the last major

Usually the soviets or britain

Depending on tag

[uncut narwhal]

so this is the division

[wet crater]

Damn

Thats good

[uncut narwhal]

could get more breakthrough

but i didnt get the right tank doctrine

[wet crater]

Fair

Its the same cw as the infantry divs I find work

36 width infantry blocks

[uncut narwhal]

ok this was already on the improved chassis

[wet crater]

Yeah these are later game designs

[uncut narwhal]

basic chassis was similar tho

[wet crater]

Nothing wrong with that its just I get these arent something you can jump on production for early

[uncut narwhal]

oh no you can

you start producing the convert in 36

on game start

[wet crater]

You can?

Oh damn

[uncut narwhal]

yea

[uncut narwhal]

do this design in 36

[wet crater]

Some nations might not have the industry for this early

[uncut narwhal]

you can also add the small cannons

in 36

and then just convert

to spgs

with the good gun

[uncut narwhal]

i had like 20 mils on tanks

[uncut narwhal]

so yea in 1940 i had 30 mils on those tanks

[wet crater]

For something like japan or minors its not super duper viable early

Since say japan, they have to have enough infantry equipment to fight china very early

And minors cant throw 20 or so mils on stuff

Least not early

[uncut narwhal]

Yea but Japan isn't rlly a tank nation

And as any minor heavies are too much

Mediums work better

[wet crater]

100% agree

Though once chinas capped f you cap them in 37

Japan can easily become a tank producer

From all the chinese factories

[uncut narwhal]

To use those tanks in Asia?

No supply contintent

[wet crater]

So true

[wet crater]

No

The point of that is when you cap britain, which is, shockingly easy as japan

You take something in europe to fight the germans

And italians

Thats where the armor is used ideally

[uncut narwhal]

True

[tropic seal]

Is there even a use case for heavies in sp?

I've never seen anyone suggest making them

[wet crater]

I mean, it seems to prove relatively effective

My understanding was the common consensus is mediums are better

[tropic seal]

Mediums are better relative to their prod cost

[tropic seal]

Yeah the sp armour doesn't have anythijg close to needing heavies

[wet crater]

I cant exactly deny that their strat is effective

[tropic seal]

I did an inf only conquest of majors as like Greece I think and inf could pierce anything

[wet crater]

But heavies do cost a lot yeah

[tropic seal]

Yeah I've only seen this in mp

Where you actually really need them lol

[wet crater]

Yeah how the devil to you infantry only cap the soviets outside of playing the germans

[glacial steeple]

hoi4 but you cant use weapons

[wet crater]

As any given major I have capped at least one other major with only infantry

Minus italy

Havent gotten round to playing them

And the soviets

Havent touched them yet

The soviet focus tree is kind of overwhelming

Its massive

[tropic seal]

Wdym that's really easy lol

You can battleplan the Soviets to death with just inf

One field marshal of divs is more than enough

[wet crater]

Honestly I keep having an issue outside of playing germany

[wet crater]

Seriously?

[tropic seal]

Yes

[wet crater]

Do I just suck?

[tropic seal]

What's your templates

[wet crater]

Because I cant break them unless I have germany level army size

[tropic seal]

Convert ALL mils to civs

[wet crater]

Good lord

[tropic seal]

What

No the Soviets are easy to obliterate

[wet crater]

I know

Which is why I am assuming I am just bad

[tropic seal]

What's your template

That you're pushing with

[wet crater]

36 width infantry blocks

Support anti air, artillery, and engineer corp

Maybe adding recon in some way would help?

[tropic seal]

Don't use art

I use

Support aa, flame tanks, assault engineers, field hospital and recon rangers

[wet crater]

As a support company?

[tropic seal]

Don't use them at all to push

[tropic seal]

These are better for a pushing div

[wet crater]

Ah jeez, this is a lot

[tropic seal]

Flame tanks are a must

Assault engis are very very nice but if you're really broke on ic normal ones will work

[wet crater]

Yeah what exactly do flame tanks do

[tropic seal]

Field hospitals are amazing

Recon rangers are very nice

[tropic seal]

Add a toj of stats

[wet crater]

Dont they just lower causalties?

[tropic seal]

For very cheap

[wet crater]

Ah okay

[tropic seal]

They let you keep fighting

They're literally banned in some mp rulesets

[wet crater]

Oh jeez

Think I underestimated them

[tropic seal]

Use those five in a 36w inf or tank div and it'll shred anything except mountains with low supply

For those cases bring mountaineers

They shred anything in mountains

[wet crater]

I keep getting stuck using a lot of special forces cap on marines

For the required naval invasion to cap the brits

As japan

For germany I havent pulled off an effective sea lion yet

Not for lack of attempts

[glacial steeple]

you can use stuff if it doesnt do damage

like tranport planes, fake divs, recon planes, ships if they dont have weapons attached

[tropic seal]

Interesting I might try that out

[tropic seal]

You don't need marines in sp

[wet crater]

That sounds hard

[glacial steeple]

idk if its winnable

[tropic seal]

And even if you want marines you can just do the special forces cap glitch

[tropic seal]

Prolly not but it'll be funny to try

[wet crater]

Tell that to the amount of dead armies I have lost in britain

Litteral entire armies

[tropic seal]

How?

If you can get one port in Britain you win

What are you doing to lose entire armies

[wet crater]

They kept getting pinned in place by constantly being attacked

[tropic seal]

Shouldn't matter

[wet crater]

Even with green air

[tropic seal]

Just push them back once you have a port

[tropic seal]

Ok wtf I don't know what's happening

[wet crater]

No this is with the damn port too

I dont get it

[tropic seal]

Britain should be impossible to lose in sp with a port and green air

[glacial steeple]

you wanna know the tech

just invade again

[tropic seal]

How do you even fail the first one with green air and a port

[glacial steeple]

encircle some dumb port like dover every time so you delete their units

[wet crater]

Oh yeah no this is with sending multiple invasions too

[tropic seal]

???

[glacial steeple]

org cycle

[wet crater]

It is so annoying

I swear they keep like 100 divs on england

[tropic seal]

Sp doesn't put enigu pressure to deorgs that fast no? Especially with cas on your side

[wet crater]

This

I litterally would be attacked instantly

[glacial steeple]

vanilla ai can be vicious

[tropic seal]

Then last stand the first army that gets in

[wet crater]

Couldnt push out or back

[tropic seal]

Can't he just last stand

[glacial steeple]

not exactly powerful but they will attack a lot

[glacial steeple]

and then die?

you have to reorg

[wet crater]

Its the repeated attacks

[tropic seal]

Buys enough time to get another army in right

[wet crater]

Yeah she can

[tropic seal]

It doesn't take that long to ship another in

France is close

[wet crater]

Supply is still an issue

Unless I can get like two ports

[tropic seal]

With two armies and green air you can definitely push

[wet crater]

Weirdly a sealion is stupid easy as japan

I dont really understand whats different though

All I did to cap britain as japan was wait for vichy to form

Get mil access off the germans

Plan like 6 naval invasions including marines to target ports

And that worked

[tropic seal]

Idk I usually don't bother with even naval invading britain

I just paratroop in

Much faster

You can get air superiority instantly while navalling takes a while to destroy all the British ships

[wet crater]

Yeah I feel like paradrops if I can proceed to get supply would be better as germany

[tropic seal]

Paras can take a port before they run out of supply

[wet crater]

For japan the waiting to crack the royal navy is actually vital

Since destroying ships lets you get more peace score than germany and italy as japan

[tropic seal]

You can end the war before America joins as germany

Which lets you grab the British navy iirc

[wet crater]

Same for japan

[tropic seal]

Yes but it's easier as germany

[wet crater]

The calculus is a little different for japan, same concept though

[tropic seal]

That lets you collapse the Soviets without any American air cover supporting them

Japan you have to declare on America anhway

So it doesn't change too much

[wet crater]

Oh I just

Waited until I capped the allies that way

Before america joined

Took canada in the peace

Then proceeded to land invade the usa via canada

Which was very easy

[tropic seal]

Yes

I prefer the Mexican routr

Route

[wet crater]

I couldnt be bothered to conquer mexico

[glacial steeple]

i should do fascist uk sometime

[wet crater]

While I was waiting to break the royal navy I took up to singapore and all of india

With the other armies

Including a naval invasion of sri lanka using submarines

I didnt have any surface ships in asia

So I used what i had

[tropic seal]

Light cruisers spam

For the win

[wet crater]

Yup

Lots of light cruisers and destroyers

Also a few kongo class battleships

As those actually put in work

The soryu carriers, eh

Not so much

I mean the naval bombers are nice i guess?

[tropic seal]

I'm never bothered to use carriers

[wet crater]

Its probably better in mp

[wet crater]

japan starts with a few

Only real reason I had any

Japan litterally has a navy larger than the RM

And the soviets

Also beats frances navy easy

Half of the french navy is attack subs not surface ships either way

[tropic seal]

I just don't even need naval supremacy usually

Maybe I'll put some on escort if I'm moving armies

[wet crater]

Yeah honestly

Naval supremacy is overrated

[tropic seal]

Yes

[wet crater]

The fleet you have is best death stacked for invasions

[tropic seal]

Meanwhile you get casd to hell if you don't have air supremacy

[wet crater]

What actually sucks

Being convoy raided

It destroys your supply as japan

If you dont stop it

And its very annoying

Like seriously

Surface fleets are easy to deal with

You beat them into dust with a deathstack

But subs

Are so annoying

[tight flicker]

ive ran through brazil and joined the axis in ww2, got pounded by the allies after trying to take liberia and now am looking for another country to play as, i mean brazil is fine as its reccomended for beginners(and i am one) but any other suggestions yall

[tropic seal]

What dlcs do you hace

[tight flicker]

all of em

[tropic seal]

Do you want to play majors or minors

[tight flicker]

something with a dedicated focus tree and that can get into wars early(also that should not be taken out of context)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=french&id=2141885565, this is the link I refer to when building templates(using the no step back dlc)

cause i play singleplayer

[low vector]

In general how far apart should my suppl hubs be? I try to make each railway atleast level 3? Is 5 to 6 tiles apart good enough?

[tropic seal]

Finland gets into a really early war and can scale well

You can cap Russia without the allies jumping you

Then deal with the allies and Germans whenever you want

[tight flicker]

oh nice but is it relatively simple to cap russia early or is it a long and horrifying war

[tight flicker]

cool

[tight flicker]

i mean irl the fins did hold their ground against the soviets so i presume there are added bonuses in game asw when dealing with them

[pliant condor]

in generla you don't build supply hubs

instead fight where there are existing hubs

like north america? plenty of supply hubs in the east coast

[low vector]

How about when I need to push? For example I am invading the soviet union form the north and there are not alot of supply hubs

[pliant condor]

don't invade the soviet union from the north

[low vector]

Her is a good example. I had to build the two to the left because there simply wasnt any

[pliant condor]

go from here

no supply hub = no fighting

[low vector]

how far should a supply hub be near infantry?

like 1 to 2 tiles?

[pliant condor]

you don't build supply hubs

it's however far apart it is on the map

if in a region it's 10 tiles away from each other

you simply don't fight there

focus on regions where there is supply

also if you go along the coast naval bases are free supply hubs

[wet crater]

I mean, you can

Its just not ideal

Much easier to just, not fight there

[low vector]

Again ideally how far should the supply hub be from infantry like 3 to 4 tiles?

[tropic seal]

Simple

[wet crater]

Finland can cap the soviets early?

I thought they got forced peaced

[tropic seal]

Yeah by 41

[tropic seal]

No

That's if you suck at defending

[wet crater]

Thats pretty good

[tropic seal]

Yes

[wet crater]

So just git good

Litterally

[tropic seal]

Germany might declare on you post Soviet cap but by then you can smash them

[tropic seal]

Yes

[tropic seal]

They won't declare until the Soviets cap though

[pliant condor]

think about it the other way

[wet crater]

I have thought about some non majors to play as myself

[pliant condor]

your infantry should be 3 - 4 tiles away from supply hubs

[tropic seal]

Finnish generals are great

[pliant condor]

or whatever range it gives

don't go out of the range

[low vector]

I see

[wet crater]

Finland, greece, romania, and mexico have all come up

[low vector]

How many tiles does a supply hub go on full motrization:?

[wet crater]

They have to be

They have, quite the job

Desperate defense i assume is a must for finland

5% recruitable pop goes hard

[tropic seal]

Yeah I usually go that

[wet crater]

And finland is teeny

And has to occupy

A lot

Just, a lot

Pretty sure finlands also got a fleshed out focus tree

Out of turkey, romania, greece, mexico and finland

[tropic seal]

Yes

[wet crater]

Which is most fun to play, as a learner who is generally successful on majors

I have played romania a little bit, but I couldnt figure out how to beat the soviets

[tropic seal]

Finland

[wet crater]

Since, I couldnt really push

But the ai also wouldnt attack me

[tropic seal]

Finland gets into an early war that lets you scale quickly

[wet crater]

So it was staring at the enemy

[tropic seal]

You're the first out of those listed to get into a war

Hold the Soviets a bit until you have like there armies then encircle everything in the top arctic port

That obliterates like 30 divs

I got the Soviets down to sixty divs by 41

[tropic seal]

Three armies

[wet crater]

Romania to be fair also goes to war early, i had all of the balkans and turkey puppeted before the bessaribia demand

[tropic seal]

Finland scales faster if you can cap the Soviets

[wet crater]

I havent even done that as germany

[tropic seal]

Tons of material and factory space

[wet crater]

exactly

[wet crater]

It took irl 5-6 hours

No collab

Starting with a front from ukraine to estonia

Since i got 100% of poland and the baltic states because soviet ai broke the pact for some reason

[tropic seal]

Weird it should take like irl less than an hour even without Collab lol

[wet crater]

I was on speed 4

Which didnt help

[tropic seal]

Yes

Speed 4 is fine

I play on speed 4 unless if I really want to micro

[wet crater]

Yeah was i supposed to be battleplaning or something

I microed the entire war

[tropic seal]

Just battleplan the Soviets

[wet crater]

Every, single, push

It was so slow

[tropic seal]

They're not worth microing with inf

[wet crater]

Yeah I figured

[tropic seal]

Grab like twelve or six tank divs and do the micro while your infs advancing on battleplan

[wet crater]

I was microing for encirclements

[tropic seal]

Don't really need to do that

Unless if you want to be super efficient

[wet crater]

Yeah the conquest was efficent

I lost barely a million

To like 4.5 million soviet losses

[tropic seal]

Finland gets easily 10:1

Ratios

[wet crater]

I eventually resorted to snaking an infantry unit all the way to baku to cap them

It was so annoying

[tropic seal]

I called the Soviets as Finland with under I think 300k casualties

Capped

[wet crater]

Yeah

Thats really good

[tropic seal]

Not that Finland can tank that many casualties anyway

You have to because Finland has terrible starting mp

[wet crater]

germany can kinda just eat them yeah

Finland cant

[tropic seal]

They have some buffs but they can't afford to lose millions

[tropic seal]

You can fill battleplan as Germany with under a mil losdes

To cap soviets

Easily

Probably much less a mil is conservative

[wet crater]

Yeah pretty certain some of my casualties were a result of attrition

Supply wasnt great

And I forgot to get logistics companies

[tropic seal]

It's never great past Moscow except for like five cities

[wet crater]

Even in east poland it was pretty bad

i also outright didnt call romania or italy to the war

Just soloed them

So I lost more men

[tropic seal]

Yeah they're useless

I call them but I disable allied supply

So they act as units to hold the frontline

Which is nice

[wet crater]

But they dont push

[tropic seal]

Doesn't matter

[wet crater]

which is kinda perfect

[tropic seal]

I'll do the pushing

They just need to sit there so I don't have to spread out my dtuff super wide

[wet crater]

No its good, since they get less war score

[tropic seal]

I play with player led peace conferences anyway lol

The only mod I use

[wet crater]

Yeah what does it do?

[tropic seal]

I hate border gore

[tropic seal]

Allows you to control the peace conference

You basically get infinite war score

[wet crater]

Period or?

[tropic seal]

You can delegate territory

[wet crater]

Oh that is, so nice

[tropic seal]

Yeah full control

Removed weird border gore

[wet crater]

Yeah I might add that one mod outside of challenge runs

[stuck garnet]

arguably op asf but like the game is genuinely unplayable without it so it slides

[wet crater]

Yeah because the peace system

Isnt great

Partly because the ai is, kinda dumb when it comes to territorial demands

[tropic seal]

Yes you can abuse it but I find if I don't use it I get all my armies exiled cuz Poland somehow took the Urals

[wet crater]

Seriously it will demand random exclaves and enclaves

For no reason

[glacial steeple]

i just use toolpack post peacedeal

[pliant condor]

it depends on a lot of other factors

like infra terrain

and there's a gradual decay

just make sure your frontline divisions are not under red supply

[lament quail]

how does special forces cap work

[tropic seal]

Oh what does it do

[heady skiff]

Why does my stability just slowly decrease when im at peace and have no debuffs to weekly stability

._.

[glacial steeple]

you click state

change owner

another thing that helps

go into game settings

this is ironman/archievement compatible

and turn on everything that rebalances peace points to main contributors+players

[tropic seal]

oh

dang

[deep wind]

what do the reichskommissariats do

[heady skiff]

Just makes Puppets for Germany so they dont have to Garrison so much

[glacial steeple]

theyre like puppets if puppets were worse

[deep wind]

are they just there for the historical aspect then

[honest lintel]

the soviets just choose when to capitulate i swear

[celest shuttle]

hi i play china if i follow facsit i only can have 4 slot research that true ?

[rustic canyon]

whats a good infantry template

playing italy if it changes anything

[neat widget]

18/0 mountaineers

with medium flame tanks, assault engineers, hospitals, light recon tank, and flex spot

[tropic seal]

You mean a generalist inf?

[oak jasper]

The stereotypical infantry division I use is 9x inf, support arty+AA, and usually engineers.

For offensive ops, prob 18x infantry (preferably special forces), support arty+AA, assault engineers, flame tank, hospital. Might also be viable to swap 1x infantry + support AA for a line AA battalion and support company of choice.

... and seeing what flame tank companies do for the first time, time to get some flame tanks built pronto for my marines.

[celest shuttle]

hi In HOI4, is there any way to draw a frontline across the borders of multiple countries?

[sand ember]

you need to be at war with all of them unfortunately to draw a unified frontline

if you know you'll be at the same time you can draw a fallback line or something and then just create a frontline the day of the war and get around it

or make two frontlines and pause and combine them

[celest shuttle]

@sand ember thank u

do u play china before ?

[sand ember]

i don't know much about the new china no

sorry

[celest shuttle]

thank u

[tropic seal]

flame tanks are broken

[tropic seal]

field marshal frontline

[celest shuttle]

@tropic sealif i dont war i cant draw ?

[tropic seal]

cant across multiple. you canm still just make general-level orders for each though

[celest shuttle]

thank u

@tropic sealdo u play new china before ?

[tropic seal]

like the main china or the warlords or soviet china

[celest shuttle]

@tropic seal can u tell me what to do if i want to be fasit ?

[tropic seal]

ive never played down the fascist path

so im not sure

[celest shuttle]

i just play game for 2 week

[tropic seal]

ive only done dem china

[lavish torrent]

could someone give me a good infantry template, i am the soviets and army experience isnt a problem

[celest shuttle]

@tropic sealif not go fascist path then can u tell me what i should to do first ?

i play base game china before

but for now national focus too big

i confused dont know what to start first

[tropic seal]

9 or 8 inf batlations (18 or 16 width), support engineers, support aa, support artillery thats all you need

[lavish torrent]

tysm

[tropic seal]

i've never even read through the fascist china tree

so im not sure

i would search for a youtube guide

since china is a nation where focus tree order really matters

since theres so many terrible debuffs

[celest shuttle]

@tropic sealno my mean is for normal way what i should to do first ?

Can you give me some advice on what I should prioritize first?

[tropic seal]

i havent played in awhile but i think ive saved the list of focus prioriities

for dem

lemme find it

[celest shuttle]

this DLC is more different than base game

[tropic seal]

ok so you want to get rid of neglected countryside quite soon

since the focus is time locked

once oyu do it itll automatically tick away in the background

[celest shuttle]

ok and next is army coruption ?

[tropic seal]

yes

and denounce feudalism too i think?

haveat least 2, optimally 4 divs

on every

single port

all of them that you control

japan will spam naval invasions at you and since you have no navy therse nothing you can do

if they get a port you lose pretty much

[celest shuttle]

how i can eat all warlord ? @tropic seal

[tropic seal]

after you do one of hte focuses

i forgot which

youll get a list of political actions

that let you offer a awrlord to join you for pp and faction prestige

they may decline but they usually say yes

[celest shuttle]

if they decline then i have war goal to kill them ?

@tropic sealmaybe u say is this one

@tropic sealthank u very i know what to do now 😄

[tropic seal]

don't think so

oph nvm

yeah you do it seems

[tropic seal]

try to hold japan until you have enough eqipment for like 3-4 armies

then push them back into korea to get the white peace

event

japan historical will always accept it

then you can start scaling up

[celest shuttle]

@tropic sealcan i attack USA before win japan ?

[tropic seal]

no

you will get destroyed

deal with japan first

japan is not easy to deal with as china

especialyl with ncns

[celest shuttle]

@tropic sealthen after peace i will find the way to take all japan before do anything ?

china dont have navy is hard way to take all japan

[tropic seal]

no

u see korea?

it connects to japan

there should be a land connection

if i remember correctly

you wont need a navy

then you can capitulate japan, steal their navy

and use that navy to fight the americans if you want

captiulating japans hould give you like 80 ships?

i think?

more if you cap them quickyl before america wrecks their navy

[celest shuttle]

you mean i can cross sea to japan and no need navy ?

you mean this way ?

[tropic seal]

oh wait

i'm blind sorry i thought tha connectd to japan

in that case i would probably make paratroopers

unless if you want to sit and wait to make a navy

but thats a bit slow

you wont be able to fight the americans without a navy anyway

[celest shuttle]

hmm china is not good for navy

[tropic seal]

yes

thats why you want to capitulate japan to steal theirs

paratroopers are probably your best bet

pararoop around a port and attack it from multiple sides

if you grab the port you win

[celest shuttle]

but if i dont have navy and capture the port then what next ? i cant land my army if i dont have navy to secure the sea ?

[tropic seal]

if you capture a korean port like fuzan

you can still convoy your troops over i think

youll definitely take a few losses frm your convoy getting sunk

but its tankable

oh wait btw

i forgot about this

but wipe out the soviet china

before dealingw ith japan

otherwise they start a huge civil war and it gets very messy

[celest shuttle]

a i hate that guy Mao

[tropic seal]

hes very hard to wipe out

spams last stands in the mountains but itll be done eventually

[celest shuttle]

yes truely

but you sure we can cross sea if dont secure the sea ?

[tropic seal]

another choice is to go cap the soviets

[celest shuttle]

just sunk few ship ?

[tropic seal]

you dont need a navy for that

[tropic seal]

i think there is one case where they wont go if the chance of getting raided is too high?

im not 100% sure of the conditions

[celest shuttle]

ok i will try it

[tropic seal]

95% of the time its fine youll just get your convoys sunk

are you on ironman?

if youre not then make a save before sending the paratroopers

[celest shuttle]

if i dont do that American will take japan soon or later

[tropic seal]

if the troops refuse to go then jsut reload the save and try something else

[celest shuttle]

sure

ok i will try this first when i peace with japan i will find u aagain 😄 thank u very very much @tropic seal

[tropic seal]

kk

[noble summit]

have they buffed china's surrender limit, or added some mechanics to it? I don't have a pic rn but yesterday i took literally ALL of china's tiles and they just stood at 99% surrender progress

[tropic seal]

i think china can lower theirs urrender limit to 0 vps

pre sure

@celest shuttle btw if i dont respond ill be asleep lol

cuz its night for me

[celest shuttle]

@tropic seal thank u at my time is 3:36 PM i at vietnam

[tropic seal]

k its 7:37 for me

[noble summit]

and how do you capitulate them then?

[tropic seal]

take all their tiles

ALL of their tiles

if theyre still alive theres a tile you havent taken

[rain shore]

why cant i paratroop and naval invade in uk?

[tropic seal]

do you have air and naval supremacy?

[tepid umbra]

the invasions take some time to prepare

[rain shore]

how do i know?

[tepid umbra]

go to the air map and the naval map

[rain shore]

the balk was green. And do i need air supremancy for paratroop?

[tepid umbra]

yes

[rain shore]

What is are good planes for air supremancy with all dlcs?

[serene karma]

Check pins

Fighters with max 4x hmg basically

[tepid umbra]

ship designs are in pins too

[serene karma]

U should send an ss

[rain shore]

is that a submarine?

[tepid umbra]

screenshot

[rain shore]

wait

[tepid umbra]

press prtscreen or windows+shift+s

[rain shore]

yea i know

[tepid umbra]

[scenic salmon]

Is communist inflitration for Communist China working properly? I legit had control of nearly all of china, and they only had 1 province, pushed me all the way out and annexed me

somehow they had 200 divisions

and I had level 3 infiltration to flip their states

[lucid torrent]

When will Fritz complete the focus?

[noble summit]

they generally start relatively soon after appointment

you should appoint reichsleiters in 1936, not 1940 for this reason

[lucid torrent]

I appoint Hess first, the matter is why Todt is stuck

[uncut narwhal]

Nah not rlly, I just do them cause they're fun

[noble summit]

todt gives civilian factory bonuses, he should be your first reichsleiter in most builds

[chrome river]

Yo, anyone have a good updated Imperial Iran guide? Struggling with annexing Iraq in the 2 day window where they're out of both UK and Axis - theres a little note in patch 1.16.6 that says "Iraq now sticks closer to the actual dates for historical events (such as breaking the treaty)" and the guides Ive seen must all be pre-patch, cause their iraq flips fascist nearly 6 months before they do now

[glacial steeple]

Well

youre not wrong

but its for the wrong reason

you shouldnt be making more than one (1) civ as germany

the reason you get todt early is because he spawns in 6 mils

[glacial steeple]

iran is just hard

is there a reason to go imperial?

imo communist is just stronger

because when azerbaijan/kurdistan do their independence wars, its a defensive war

allowing you to do the 'defense of iran' branch down to the next to last focus

so you have the demand focus ready as soon as war is declared on you

[noble summit]

i have no mp experience but i don't see why you wouldn't make a few civs and infrastructure in early 1936

[glacial steeple]

also it gives better tech for free

[glacial steeple]

because germany has bad civs and great mils

like your civs will get eaten up by big consumer good which is fine

because your mils are mega OP

if you go PEG you only make your mil IC back in like 1940-41 at best

[noble summit]

appointing hjalmar sclatch first, rushing price controls and both fate of czechoslovakia and anschluss and your mefo bills should be under control in my experience

[chrome river]

Would still need to wait till like 1941 for that to happen, no? Cause thats when Soviet and UK are programmed to attack Iran. And the goal as imperial iran is to cap turkey and greece before that.

[glacial steeple]

wdym?

i mean i guess but you can actually win that relatively easily

so its like fun

but if youre doing it for an archievement then imperial iran is just hard

iran is weak

like you have iraq who isnt particularly powerful but gets a lott of stuff for free to make them powerful

and afghanistan who is very powerful but has to fight hard wars

and then iran has neither

[chrome river]

I mean, i can easily conquer iraq in late 1939, i just dont know how to rush it in the 2 day window between the UK guarantee elapsing and iraq joining the axis

[glacial steeple]

paradrop?

but youre likely gonna end up at war with everyone

and you can get maybe 40 or so divs out by i forgot when it was

i think late 39

which isnt great

you do have a few minor advantages

such as no airbases in the region means allied air is usually little to none or out of range

or the supply system not really favouring attacking parties other than on the iraqi border

[rustic canyon]

ye

[glacial steeple]

and if you move into iraq in time

there is actually no sufficient supply system to push you

their western border is supply poor

saudi arabia is neutral

kuwait is too small of an area so you can force attack until it dies

the turkemenistan border also is poor supply

[chrome river]

Iran gets a few air bases up with 35 day focuses

[glacial steeple]

and the raj border is a bit dangerous but they cant really push if there are like 2 units per tile

[glacial steeple]

dont bother

you are not going to make an air force that in any way can 1: get air superiority + do cas damage and 2: is able to replace its losses mid war

especially with the aforementioned lack of units

you can maybe afford 50 transport planes with your starting airforce being enough to get superiority over the iraqi starting airforce

because both suck

in general you can also paradrop if theres no planes up and iraq is unlikely to give their planes orders

every 35 days you spend on something you cant actually use, especially if its focus time, is pretty bad

because of your poor research you also dont have a choice in what offensive units to use

alongside terrain and eco

you should use mountaineers as theyre the least research/investment intensive

[lucid torrent]

How long it take for a inner circle member to start the second tree?

[acoustic zephyr]

does anyone know why i cant do the collaberation government with croatia

[hollow linden]

Is compliance above 80%?

Also don't because you'll puppet your own cores in Trieste

And just don't release collabs just in general

Keeping High compliance is usually better

[lucid torrent]

HOW? WTF ARE YOU DOING HESS?

[rare timber]

https://stopify.co/film.php?id=7IQEAD.mp3

[opaque garden]

about that am i sllowed to put like 100 medals on one division?

to prove that the truck art is real division

[acoustic zephyr]

okay thanks i will do that

[opaque garden]

make sure to use brutal oppresion

[hollow linden]

Well he did his focuses so doesnt matter right

[acoustic zephyr]

but i have no ressisstance

[opaque garden]

ANY TIPS?

self proppeled art

[errant chasm]

Damn the game went "historical"

[errant chasm]

Is this supposed to be a meme build? I don't use super heaviest when I play hoi4

[opaque garden]

holy shit its expensive

[glacial steeple]

if you want

[opaque garden]

yippee I get org

[scenic salmon]

is there a bug with china where it doesnt capitulate when u have all their territories?

playing as communist china

been like this for over an hour

[glacial steeple]

show map

[scenic nacelle]

Are u sure u have all their land

[glacial steeple]

i have a guess

[scenic salmon]

they were in a faction with a few chinese nations, all capitulated

[glacial steeple]

do they have taiwan

[scenic salmon]

no

[glacial steeple]

ok then its qingdao

[scenic salmon]

its independent

[glacial steeple]

china has a lot of surrender limit buffs

[scenic salmon]

ah okay

yeah ints qingdao

[glacial steeple]

they also have

a hidden tree for exiling to taiwan

iirc it gives them more surrender cap too

but ive never seen it in game so

[scenic salmon]

i really hate hoi4 lmao

[glacial steeple]

well they need taiwan for that

so yk

making sure

[scenic salmon]

is there a way to toggle location so that way I can find things like that?

[glacial steeple]

no

just memorize focus trees

or read national spirits and stuff

[scenic salmon]

okay

[hollow linden]

U can search for states and victory points

Or the capital of a county if you type in the name

[cedar wigeon]

Can someone give me a few tips, when invading how can i make the enemy fall faster ?

[celest shuttle]

@cedar wigeon maybe attack 1 army from more side

left right front and back if you can

[cedar wigeon]

i was thinking do i need to capture city airfield dockyard or it don't matter a lot ?

[glacial steeple]

depends

tiles can matter

usually mostly when theyre supply lines

[cedar wigeon]

oh yes i see victory points on some tiles

[glacial steeple]

those matter for state control and surrender progress

[jade sparrow]

Chat am i cooked?

for reference, i just joined the allies as Portugal

and they like me +5

[edgy mesa]

how do i increase this number?

i cant improve relations anymore

[jade sparrow]

idk

[edgy mesa]

thank you for that information sir...

[jade sparrow]

i think its just that the AI wants to go to war with you @edgy mesa

[opaque garden]

be a good boy

no but same side in war strategic reasons and fascist pressure all give 100-200

try to get those

good relations help aswell

but no all that much

use diplomatic pressure spies

@jade sparrow

[opaque garden]

dont you dare insult hoi4

[jade sparrow]

got it

guess i gotta build a whole intelligence agency lol

[opaque garden]

why do u want Swedish licenses tho