ask-for-help-here

[tepid umbra]

a guess

it makes sense

[stark imp]

around 5.7k i guess

[tepid umbra]

cuz it took as much time to push in those states as it did to push like half the ukraine state

air is really busted, so good air and lots of it would cause that

[stark imp]

yeah. got to go now thanks for the help

[tropic seal]

What's the strongest south american country to play as

[summer nymph]

probably Argentina, or Chile/Brazil depending on how you play. Peru can also be pretty strong even though it has basic focus tree

[tropic seal]

Wdym chile/brazil depending on how I play

[summer nymph]

I don't know all paths for them, but I know Fascist Chile is strong, and Brazil can unite with Portugal as Monarchist path which is also strong

[tropic seal]

ah i see

ill give argentina a shot then try chile

thanks

whats the best argentina path?

it has a focus right

[summer nymph]

yeah it does

Communist felt pretty strong when I played it, haven't played the other paths much

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

why does turkey's starting leaedr have such a cracked set of buffs

[tepid umbra]

run fourth reich

[tropic seal]

ah i see thanks

for my first playthrough of most countries except like germany or the soviet union i prefer running their demo path

since its usually the easiest path

[jagged hull]

i think i messed up

I didn't know if I want to do Operation sea lion

After all I have zero fuel and Sweden got rid of my trade deals

[tropic seal]

this is why i usually build synths as germany lol

ive never ran out of fuel as germany

how do i unlock recon rangers again?

i have mountaineers researched but i cant find them

ah i have to do the focus

thanks

[neat widget]

do you have special forces doctrine

[tropic seal]

yah i just realised i needed to go the mountaineers tree

thankfully i havent chosen one yet

is assault inf, field engineering good

and grand aassault for ops

i wont be running tanks

probbaly

[jagged hull]

I lost 4 panzer division in UK and I'm at France

In operation sea lion

[hasty belfry]

Are rangers or mountaineers better when used as assault troops?

[jagged hull]

I was very prepared but I lost 4 best tank division in operation sea lion

It was led by Rommel

But all of the troops left the uk

But I lost 4 panzer division

Why just why

[hoary glen]

In Europe Ranger, in Asia Mountaineers

[jagged hull]

Don't forget about the mountains in Europe as well

[hoary glen]

There are none where you fight

Like unless you struggle vs norway

[jagged hull]

Ok so don't attack south UK I have to invade in the middle of the island

[hoary glen]

Try Marines and Paratroopers next. Tho beating the UK with just 4 Units seems ambitious. Also ensure you have green air and cas above

[tropic seal]

wdym

sotuh uk is fine

i always invade from there

[jagged hull]

I got over run

And lost 4 panzer division

[tropic seal]

what port did you go for?

[hoary glen]

red air moment

[jagged hull]

Dunkirk

[tropic seal]

why did you bring in tanks before the frontline has stabilised

[tropic seal]

like uk port

[jagged hull]

Na all green

[tropic seal]

green air and overran??

[jagged hull]

Yeah there was a lot of french, the Commonwealth countries

Just join in my vc so I can show you

[tropic seal]

ah i cant rn

[tropic seal]

did you bring infantry in or tanks in first

[jagged hull]

Infantry but they did not had enough supplies

[tropic seal]

whats your inf template?

[jagged hull]

9-1 9 infantry and one artillery

With the support artillery and engineers

[tropic seal]

i wouldnt use line artillery but thats probably just personal choice

did you have cas

[jagged hull]

Yes

But I have zero fuel

[tropic seal]

oh

yeah build synths as germany

i start building them when i start building mils

roughly

[jagged hull]

I did

But swedish block my trade deals with them

So I can't get any tungsten

And I'm trying to destroy UK so it will be easier and the war will end faster

[tropic seal]

trade with russia?

for tungsten?

[jagged hull]

But I'm damaging the navy

[tropic seal]

wdym

you mean ur atacking the british navy?

[jagged hull]

With naval bombers yes

But I send two infantry from Dunkerque to dover and behind dover that has an air base

[tropic seal]

oh you only managed to get 2 inf divs in?

[hasty belfry]

What’s a good ranger template?

[tropic seal]

they have army templates in pins

[jagged hull]

Well to late us joined I have to restart the whole thing again

[hasty belfry]

Transylvania, Italy, Switzerland, France, Austria, a good portion of Balkan nations.

There are a ton of mountains in Europe.

[tropic seal]

you can still sealion britain even after the us gets there

[hasty belfry]

Not for rangers.

[tropic seal]

ah my bad lol they have mountaineers not rangers

[jagged hull]

No I'm very weak so thank God I made a save file in my desktop so it will be easier to fix my mis takes

[tropic seal]

ah aight thats fine

[jagged hull]

But gigimarija is the one who is helping me but I should have waited for him

[raven maple]

Hey what do you think about SHA

[tropic seal]

wuzzat

[raven maple]

Super heavy arty

It’s a land project

[tropic seal]

i personally dont use it

[raven maple]

O

Ever

[tropic seal]

the only land projects i grab are combat engineering and flame tanks

thats all you really need

everything else i just grab for fun

[night obsidian]

interesting... somehow I can put a lvl 3 engine when im still researching a lvl 3 engine...

[raven maple]

O

[tropic seal]

has anyone else found that they have to strengthen the german ai

for it to like even remotely threaten the soviet union

the last 5 games ive played the german ai has never gotten even close to moscow or leningrad

[jagged hull]

https://tenor.com/view/bonaparte-napoleon-gif-11938689895573153321

Me right now sad and very weak because of the operation sea lion

Because I was greedy you have to wait for your leader to help you so he or she teach you how to do Operation sea lion

[glacial steeple]

russia has none

[tropic seal]

ah

my bad then

i forgot who has tungsten

[jagged hull]

Swedish

[tropic seal]

yeah but i swear there was another major power that had a boatload of them

[wild rune]

Portugal

Cuba iirc

[tropic seal]

oh yeah portugal and the us

thats right

[wild rune]

Cuba might be chromium

I forget

[jagged hull]

I'm regretting everything I should not been greedy

[wild rune]

Is it as bad as the finland dankus build?

[jagged hull]

Yes I lost 4 best and 23 infantry in operation sea lion that I failed

I should have been focused on the operation sea lion

[wild rune]

Gang

[wild rune]

That is not as bad

[jagged hull]

Number 4 was the tanks division

I lose 4 best tank division

[vital plinth]

Can anyone help me with navry I’ve set a 27 ships to navry patrol it went fine and built dominance suddenly it went to 0 and I can it’s on patrol and is in the sea zone but it’s not giving any dominance

What’s going on ?

The one above

My sups are standing still too

[glacial steeple]

hii cheese

[wild rune]

Hi casey

[wild rune]

Oil

[wild rune]

Womp womp

You are germany

[vital plinth]

What do you mean ?

[wild rune]

Literally just make more

[wild rune]

Your fuel reserves are at 0

[jagged hull]

I can't I don't have any trades

[tropic seal]

thats true lol you can tank 4 tank div losses as germany

[vital plinth]

No they full

[tropic seal]

hasn't ncns cooked the navy?

[wild rune]

It means it is uncontested then

Or smth

[vital plinth]

Dont know what what is

[wild rune]

How far into the soviet union are you

[tropic seal]

the new dlc

do you have it

[vital plinth]

Spain has 1800 dominance there only else nothing else I’ve seen or can see of stuff

[wild rune]

No compromise no surrender

[vital plinth]

No vanilla and la resistance

[tropic seal]

hm

[wild rune]

It might mean you have no spotting capability

[tropic seal]

not sure then

[wild rune]

Idk

[vital plinth]

It was 2k dominance before lol then stopped generating

[tropic seal]

probbaly a glitch

make it go back into port

cancel patrol order

[wild rune]

Can you provide screenshots?

[tropic seal]

then send it back out

[lament quail]

does the "at least they run on time!" achievement require me to be fascist

[hoary glen]

Check pins :)

[tropic seal]

theres no ranger template in pins

i think?

[wild rune]

No

[wild rune]

There is

[tropic seal]

Wth

I'm Hella blind then

[vital plinth]

Could it be because something needs repair but it doesn’t go back to repair ?

[wild rune]

No

[tropic seal]

Enable automatic split off anyway

I usually like splitoff

For large fleets

[wild rune]

Only if its like your home waters imo

[vital plinth]

Ok it worked now probably glitch

[hoary glen]

If you fight France in Mountains go home. Italy is a Naval Invasion zone and the rest you will never need mountaineers to beat whatever Divs they can field. But yes, if you play some minor with the specific goal to fight in the Balkan then Mountaineers will be better.

[wild rune]

Otherwise you can get raided on the way back and bleed ships

[glacial steeple]

is it in there?

i might need to pin one

[hasty belfry]

Who needs to go through the low countries? Real HOI 4 players force the maginot.

[tropic seal]

Yes or in areas where your allies have dominance

I've never actually invaded Italy from the alps

I should probably try that

[wild rune]

livadeia posted one

[vital plinth]

@wild rune @tropic seal ok didn’t work mb
My other task force went to that seasons and doesn’t build any dominance

[wild rune]

here

[wild rune]

give screenshots

[tropic seal]

Are you patrolling multiple sea zones with one flert

Fleet

[wild rune]

it might be that

one fleet can only be in one place at a time

[vital plinth]

One fleet but 2 task forces

[wild rune]

two sea zones?

[vital plinth]

Yeh

[wild rune]

oh

[hoary glen]

With Heavy Tanks that get 3k soft :)

[glacial steeple]

i have dementia

[wild rune]

set it to one then or split it into two and then have it patrol

[vital plinth]

But it worked before for a long while both seas had dominance then the one stopped dropping

[tame comet]

привет есть кто русский

[hasty belfry]

No.

[vital plinth]

The fleet is into 2 divisions

[wild rune]

fr

[hasty belfry]

Light tanks.

[tame comet]

привет есть кто русский
IsaacSaysYeet#4212

— 3:24 AM
No.

[tropic seal]

Yeah split it into two fleets

[wild rune]

hrm

[tame comet]

привет есть кто русский

[hasty belfry]

Real HOI 4 pros know how to force it using the Panzer 2

[glacial steeple]

rule 1 #server-rules please

[hoary glen]

Then you should step up your game

[wild rune]

its nothing bad but yeah

[hasty belfry]

?

I’m saying I force it with light tanks.

[vital plinth]

I did that I also assigned my fleet to patrol that sea zone but nope do dominance building

[tropic seal]

dang i actually have no idea then

[hoary glen]

Lol even lts are good enough to break it? Forts are such a joke

[tropic seal]

its just easier to go through the low countries

at least for me

[hoary glen]

You likely have no range, but it's hard to tell bc you just take random pictures

[tropic seal]

belgium netherlands luxemborg falls in like a few days

[hasty belfry]

Put them under Manstein. He can get the fortress buster ability right from the get-go.

[hoary glen]

Flamer + SHRWG is already enough I think

[glacial steeple]

forts are pretty good against shitter inf

that really shouldnt be used for attack

[hoary glen]

Forts are only good for 20% defense from engineers

[tropic seal]

forts are amazing against the ai

the ai really has like no idea how to break forts

[hasty belfry]

In my experience they can hold tanks fine if you fill the width with the otherwise standard 18 width infantry with support arty, aa, and engineers, with the addition of an AT company.

[tropic seal]

what's the optimal mountaineer combat width?

[hoary glen]

32 if you attack into mountains, else 36

[tropic seal]

aight

[glacial steeple]

or marshes*

jungle idk

[tropic seal]

how do i get a lot of speical forces cap

i struggle to field any decent number of special forces

[hoary glen]

Make a 2w template and a 50w. Deploy as many 2w as you have guns, then swap to the 50w template. Sometimes you need to wait a bit until manpower ticks in.

[wild rune]

true

that

[lament quail]

what do i do to ethiopia(i will be going nonaligned)

(probably will be forming aoi)

(should i tho)

[glacial steeple]

@jagged hull what were you struggling with i heard you need help

[hoary glen]

Create every puppet possible

Even if it fails you'll bring chaos to the world

[lament quail]

ok

but wait

[tropic seal]

what's the reasoning behind not just deploying that 50w temp from the start? training time?

[lament quail]

can i still do develop ethiopia

[hoary glen]

Good luck finding guns for 500x 50w Divs

[hoary glen]

Probably not

[lament quail]

so maybe i should just annex it all

i can form puppets through the focus

[hoary glen]

Puppets are funny. They boost your meager eco

[tropic seal]

so i dont fully understand it yet

[hoary glen]

But do as you wish :)

[tropic seal]

i dpeploy 2w --> convert to 50w --> train up the special forces --> delete the 50w

is that how it works?

[hoary glen]

Yeah, or just swap the 50w to SF directly and train in the field

[lament quail]

the plan is to finish developing ethiopia and then form the individual puppets through the focus, THEN forming aoi after flipping nonaligned

[tropic seal]

ah i see thanks

[lament quail]

this one

[hoary glen]

I know wasted focus time when I see it

[wild rune]

@glacial steeple

They were just sad they lost divisions

[jagged hull]

It's over I just deleted and put the old save that I copied in 1/30/2026 I was in it's close to ww2 for Poland

But I have been greedy and lost a lot of division

[hoary glen]

Btw unless you swim in XP, if you can choose the horse spirit do this with Cav bc it's free. Create the templates and then you can swap to another spirit.

[tropic seal]

oh

ok

[jagged hull]

I should have invaded the UK in 1940 before it became 1941 that us come

[tropic seal]

its still very easy to cap the uk post 1941

[wild rune]

Just encircle people in africa

When one front closes a new one opens

Or smth

Idk

[tepid umbra]

as long as you've done proper prep

[tropic seal]

yes

[carmine dagger]

I have a question? Is your army diffrent for every country? Like i use the same template and works for germany. But when I use it for other countries it doesnt work as well?

[glacial steeple]

oh :( that sucks ! i hope your next campaign will go better !

[jagged hull]

Well gigimarija was the one who is helping me to world conquest but I i know what I did so I'm very much ready after all the copyed save file in Spanish civil war

[wild rune]

Its because of production being the limiting factor

As germany you essentially have unlimited ic

[sterile hearth]

looking for some help with the TFB mod, what are the templates I should be using for roach soviets and tank soviets? Got some advice from someone else but I don't even know how it would be possible to do. I am mainly a vanilla player and have never played TFB with one brief exception where I got slotted in on a losing nation 30 minutes from the end of the game.

[wild rune]

@glacial steeple

I don't play mp

[glacial steeple]

huh

why ask me

[wild rune]

You would know tfb right

[glacial steeple]

no id have to learn it which is exhausting

@hoary glen knows tho

i assume*

[vital plinth]

Im struggling to take this island I’ve done 2 naval invasions with my 147 fleet as naval support oi can’t break through and it’s only 4 division defending idk what im doing wrong ?

[glacial steeple]

he might not

we all suck

[vital plinth]

I can’t seem to target with air support

[wild rune]

What division are you naval invading with

[neat widget]

You can put your navy on naval invasion support or micro the navy so that it lies on a tile next to the island

[glacial steeple]

why did AAT nerf new zealand and australia 💔 i hate this world

[neat widget]

These islands with only one tile are basically death traps

[wild rune]

?

[glacial steeple]

MIOs

it used to be goated before

[wild rune]

Oh

[neat widget]

Yeah I said it, Malta is a death trap

[wild rune]

Yeah

[neat widget]

Gibraltar is one too

[tropic seal]

@hoary glen is it alright if i dont have enough mp for the 50w divs

?

[wild rune]

Just make spain a puppet and invade through spain atp

[tropic seal]

nuke it

[glacial steeple]

huh

50w garrisons+

? *

they use less than smaller widths

[wild rune]

No

[wild rune]

Its for special forces converting

Idk

[tropic seal]

no

sf conversion

im making a buncha 2w

and then ill conver them in field to 50w

[wild rune]

Because I don't use that tech

[tropic seal]

but i dont have enough mp for the 50ws

[glacial steeple]

you NEED large

[tropic seal]

is that still alright?

[tropic seal]

what

[glacial steeple]

oh yeah you need nothing

just make the template 50w

and train

they dont need to be equipped

[tropic seal]

oh what

so i didnt need to do allat 2w 50w conversion?

[glacial steeple]

you do

it takes into account this number

but doesnt check whether theyre equipped

[tropic seal]

ok

so depoy 2w --> convert in field to 50w --> convet into sf

?

[glacial steeple]

hover over 24 and it tells you

or whatever number it is for you

[neat widget]

Basically how it works is that each division has a resistance suppression value, and this scales linearly with combat width. The number of divisions needed is measured by dividing the amount of suppression needed by the divisional value

So if you increase your division size you need correspondingly fewer divisions

[neat widget]

As for special forces cap, this

[tropic seal]

ok

[tropic seal]

so this works?

[glacial steeple]

btw liv the base invasion cap is 4 now

goated change

[vital plinth]

Mostly infantry and some tanks

[wild rune]

😭

[wild rune]

Use marines

[neat widget]

Yeah, and for special forces cap, you want large divisions too because special forces cap is a percentage of battalion count

The trick is that you don't need much manpower because you can and should delete your extra divisions before they get reinforced

[wild rune]

Or regular inf

[vital plinth]

How do you get them ? I got the other island but can’t get this one for some reason

[tropic seal]

oh

[wild rune]

Anything not tanks to naval invade

[tropic seal]

i have 366 divs of 2w training right now

is that too much

[wild rune]

Nah

[tropic seal]

aight

[pliant condor]

have stats

and force attack

[tropic seal]

then i can just delete the 40w divs

[vital plinth]

Dunno I succeeded with one island but not this one both were defended

[tropic seal]

after ive put the special forces in trianing right

[vital plinth]

And I used my biggest navry as support lol

[neat widget]

Naval invading with armored cars be like (Casey may be able to relate)

But seriously, you want your amphibious bonus to be as close to 50 as possible (or higher)

[tropic seal]

oh

it halts training

[pliant condor]

no

you want to do the template conversion method

deploy some large template that you are about to convert to sf

[tropic seal]

ah i see

[neat widget]

This is why you convert directly from the 50w to your special forces template

And don't put them in training

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

[vital plinth]

Ok so tanks bad at naval invade

[tropic seal]

and i delete the rest

ok

thanks

[neat widget]

Yeah tanks are bad at naval invasions as it turns out

[glacial steeple]

not true

the ONLY advantage modern tanks have over mediums is 5% less amphib penalty

and river too i think

[neat widget]

Of course you can replace your mech with amtracs or marines and that'd make them usable

[wild rune]

So?

Still bad

[neat widget]

They don't even have that, it's the exact same I believe

[glacial steeple]

i wonder if people would use moderns if its a starting tech for more break

[tropic seal]

what's the difference between field marshal and general buffs

do ineed to draw a field marshal order in order for his buffs and traits to work

or can i just draw general orders

[glacial steeple]

NCNS made me a bit sad

i was expecting japan to get like

amphib drive tank design spawn in on tank path

or naval

it couldve been peak

[wild rune]

Could have

Peak word choice

[glacial steeple]

megastat tanks

[wild rune]

I mean

[neat widget]

Yeah

[wild rune]

Self propelled support and td force gives mega hard atk

[glacial steeple]

you dont get SF buff

[wild rune]

?

[glacial steeple]

like it wouldve been fun if japan could do amphtanks cheaper or smth

and so you could actually do tank build v allies

[wild rune]

Oh yeah

Atp japan is literally just plane factory

[glacial steeple]

always has been

[last sage]

New here but hi

[light swift]

Does anybody have any tips on how to be Czechoslovakia in 1936 to defend from the Germans and Italians?

[wild rune]

True but it could have been changed

[wild rune]

Hold the sudetenland forts

[glacial steeple]

time to learn copemodding

[light swift]

I do. Its the Hungarians that lose and then they come up my side opposite of the sudetanland forts

[wild rune]

Then hold for hungary as well

[light swift]

Ok

Should I go Communist or Fascist?

[glacial steeple]

as czech?

[light swift]

ye

[glacial steeple]

democratic or communisy

fascist sucks

[light swift]

ok

[glacial steeple]

you could be axis puppet and go communist

[light swift]

How? Im new

[glacial steeple]

give up sudetenland path thingy makes you a puppet

then you go communist

[light swift]

ohhhh

[glacial steeple]

because communist is best manpower buffs

[light swift]

ok

What do I do if I dont go down that route

Im trying to hold back the Reich and Italy until the end of the war

[queen dove]

is there any way to release this land as a puppet instead of returning it??

[glacial steeple]

no

or compliance ig

[tropic seal]

why doesn't this design work?

i was following the channel's templte

[glacial steeple]

advanced frame

[tropic seal]

yes

its using advanced frame

is tha tthe reason why it doesnt work

[glacial steeple]

in pinned is improved

[tropic seal]

oh

dang

[glacial steeple]

advanced is 1 more weight

[tropic seal]

do i just get a btter engine then

[glacial steeple]

yes and 2 armor plates

also cannon 2s if possible for advanced

theyre bad for supersonics tho

[wild rune]

Cannon 2s are bad for Supersonic?

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[glacial steeple]

yes

IC ineffective

[tropic seal]

3 cannon 2s

?

[light swift]

does researching the excavation stuff give me more resources?

[wild rune]

Yes

[light swift]

Ok thanks

[wild rune]

But is it manpower effective?

If you have the largest economy in the world would it then not stand to reason that you can produce however many you want

[vital plinth]

How should I make my template for Marines for naval invasions?

[glacial steeple]

i have none of that

[wise storm]

i play with japan empire and china decleare war on me i make a front line but fight take too much time and i got 0 claim who can help me on dm

[minor ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165757839449526395/1459389105715675147/attachment.gif

[wild rune]

Check the pins

[wild rune]

How late was this that china declared war on you😭

[wise storm]

not late

fight is take so long

i cant claim single city

[neat widget]

is it possible to do a naval invasion of Shanghai?

[wise storm]

yes but china killing so quickly

[neat widget]

Oh wow

What year is it

[wise storm]

1939

[wild rune]

💀

[wise storm]

why u send skeleton

i am new at game

do not laught

[vital plinth]

Hey a second question I have so many planes now how do I assign them to attack a specific zone without having to manually move each plane or click on each airport is there a way they automatically move to nearby airport and attack ?

Without assigning to an army

[wild rune]

I am not laugh

I am dissapoint

[hasty belfry]

Should I put support AA in 36 width light tank divisions as Germany (yes I know light tanks aren’t optimal).

[wild rune]

Do you have planes

AA is only really useful if you are out of planes

[hasty belfry]

Of course. I’m Germany.

[hasty belfry]

It’s also useful for piercing.

I’m not sure if the light tanks will yield sufficient piercing.

I suppose I could also use support AT.

Not sure either would be worth it over a logistics company.

Also not sure whether or not it will be worth it to keep support arty on a light tank division.

Probably not once I unlock improved autocannons.

[wild rune]

Fake news

[lament quail]

italy, going to become papal state and form rome. ironman. about to fight greece, invoking the allied guarantee and beginning a war with the allies. How should I prepare

the plan is to paratroop france and then the uk

will 8 paratroopers be enough

[broken summit]

Hello, im playing germany and im producing flame light tanks, but i cant add them to any divisions, why?

[hasty belfry]

Did you make sure to assign them the flame tank role?

[broken summit]

how

[hasty belfry]

In the designer.

You’ll see what type of tank they’re classified as.

Click on the arrow on that bar to open the dropdown menu to see what type of vehicle it can be classified as.

[broken summit]

ty, didnt know that

[hasty belfry]

No problem.

[amber sun]

guys

whats the best way to get compliance up?

help me

pls

i dont really speak english

i mean i understand it

but i dont really understand when in a direct conversation like that

[gilded herald]

Oh I see that may be difficult then

[broken summit]

this thing bare;y does anything, is it suppsoed to be this weak?

[glacial steeple]

?

it gives so many terrain buffs + passive buff to inf

thats not weak at all

tho you should use mediums if theyre not paratroopers

[vital geode]

Light flames can be paradropped?

More you know

[gilded herald]

You might have to go paradrop doctrine

[glacial steeple]

light recon used to be able to as well

[glacial steeple]

no

[gilded herald]

If you want to drop more no?

[glacial steeple]

thats only for tank recon

light flamers can always drop

[gilded herald]

Welp Casey has the helping lounge covered lol 🥳

[broken summit]

will do, are they better for inf or tank divions?

[glacial steeple]

all

more terrain buffs

[vital plinth]

Hey a second question I have so many planes now how do I assign them to attack a specific zone without having to manually move each plane or click on each airport is there a way they automatically move to nearby airport and attack ?

Without assigning to an army

[sweet summit]

Hungary's so great

[tropic seal]

Why are NONE of my allies deploying any air or cas for d-day

zero

[pliant condor]

expecting ai to do stuff?

huh

[lament quail]

which is best

top offers 2 offmap civs

middle offers 1 offmap civs

bottom offers "gtfo" to turkey

also I still have light tank divs

in the fielkd

so maybe I have better uses than selling them to turkey

[glacial steeple]

none of them cost you anything iirc

[lament quail]

other than 75 light tanks

(top option takes basic, middle takes interwar)

[glacial steeple]

if you have no stockpile (like training units) it will cost nothing

and just give them tanks

but if it doesnt say it deducts from stockpile

[lament quail]

what if i do have a stockpoile

[glacial steeple]

it just gives them tanks regardless

[lament quail]

that is being actively used

[glacial steeple]

train

until you have deficit

and just stop training after event

[lament quail]

like

just set my tank divs to train

ok

[glacial steeple]

like

recruit more

then stop recruiting

[lament quail]

ah

[glacial steeple]

cancel

[tropic seal]

My bad 🥀

My air force was split between the Pacific and now d dqy

So I just assumed the allies would use some of their ten bajillion factories to support the landings

[glacial steeple]

allies are poor

[tropic seal]

And now the Soviets capprd

[glacial steeple]

your mils give like half the output of a ger mil each

[tropic seal]

Capped

[tropic seal]

Dang why

[glacial steeple]

because they get prod cap and output modifiers

like quite a lot of them

its probably not actually fully half maybe

but theres a large difference

[tropic seal]

Fair

But the past few games I've played the allies have never had trouble landing d day

This game they didn't even manage to naval italy

Should've known it was over from that

[lament quail]

what does this mean

will it work if i split my wing of 100 into more

or do they want 4 more wings of 100

or should i split my paratroop plans

imma try that last one

[tropic seal]

I always split my paratroop plans

[lament quail]

yeah i see why

[fathom ether]

Yall know what happened

I was only at war with germany and italy

And somehow the soviets got all my country

[light swift]

what do I do when I have exiled divisions?

[vital geode]

You include them in your army or you just set them aside

[light swift]

ok

[vital geode]

Note, they do get extra stats when fighting the country that capped them

[fathom ether]

Anyone

Have a clue

[vital geode]

Did you have all events turned on?

Soviets have that one thing to annex you

Top option that is automatic is to be annexed by them

Secure Baltics

No, it doesn't seem to be that either

I have no clue what happened

If it's odd, its mod

[fathom ether]

The only mod that effects game play that i have on is that prussia one

The others are player led peace

[neat widget]

Maybe this would work?

[gray hull]

What the hell

[austere roost]

is this the new artillery only

[neat widget]

One can try

[languid trout]

no

53 hp is gonna get absolutely obliterated

[dire jackal]

uh what do I do here lol, im also doing the military conspiracy focus so i think im forced with the great purge

[neat widget]

Yeah HP is still too low

Relative to org

[fierce idol]

how do I play communist china?

[fierce citrus]

Just getting started with industrial development in the game, quick question - is there any reason to have some states with all civilian factories and others with all military factories, or should I have states with a mix of both? (Or does it just not matter?)

[fierce idol]

build nothing but civilian factories for the first year and a half, then nothing but mils

i think

[fierce citrus]

Yes, I understand that much

[wild rune]

Nah

[fierce citrus]

but I mean, if I have say ten states to work with, is it better to go all civs in some states and all mils in the other, or to go some civs and some mils in all states?

[fierce idol]

i mean you'd build in states with high infrastructure for speed

[wild rune]

There is a graph that shows this

[fierce citrus]

yes, again, I get this

not what I asked

[wild rune]

Depends

Usually you want to put all your industry in one

[fierce citrus]

Why?

[wild rune]

Like put your mils further away from the frontline

[fierce idol]

it ends up like that in practice

[wild rune]

If you are the soviet union

[fierce citrus]

"Is it better to do A or B"
"Yeah it ends up like that"
that is not helpful

[wild rune]

You don't want the stuff that you produce your guns with being taken

And having nothing to produce with

[fierce citrus]

Yes, I also understand that, but it's still not what I asked

[fierce idol]

i mean there's no reason to do it, it's just what happens when you do things a certain way

[fierce citrus]

if you can't answer the question, don't

[wild rune]

It kind of is

[fierce citrus]

Nope

Whatever, you can't answer it then

[fierce idol]

the answer is yes, but not for the reasons you think

[wild rune]

Then please elaborate on what you mean

[indigo sapphire]

hello is it possible to mod in new historical real life units and templates

[wild rune]

As clearly nobody here understands what you are going for

[wild rune]

#modding

[indigo sapphire]

sorry cheese

[wild rune]

Its all good

[indigo sapphire]

alr

ill ask there

[wild rune]

Also yes it is

[fierce citrus]

Which would be better:
10 states: 5 of them with 6 civ factories each 5 of them with 6 mil factories each
or
10 states: 3 civ factories in each 3 mil factories in each

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx cheese

[fierce idol]

makes no difference

[fierce citrus]

OK, thankyou.

[fierce idol]

aside from the factors which you'll ignore

[wild rune]

Both of them accomplish the same end ic

There is no difference

[fierce citrus]

ok, so there's no bonus for concentrating one type in a state

[wild rune]

No

[fierce idol]

but you might end up concentrating one type in a state anyway because that's just how things end up

[wild rune]

True

[fierce citrus]

Yes, because security or whatever

[fierce idol]

like this question doesn't exist in a vacuum lol

[wild rune]

Not because of security

Because you are building all your civs at one time

[fierce idol]

exactly

[fierce idol]

sighs

[fierce citrus]

I asked a very narrow question to begin with, and y'all went way outside the scope of it

🤷

anyway, have a nice day

[fierce idol]

so.... how do I play communist china? like what do I do with my civs?

[wild rune]

You asked a very narrow question which we interpret as common knowledge therefore we attempted to broaden the question to understand what you truly meant

[wild rune]

You build mils day one

There is no build up

[indigo sapphire]

should i recruit a lot of units/divs

[wild rune]

You either want to kill china early by beheading their leader or later and join the Chinese front

[wild rune]

As much as your industry can support

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx

should i annex all of baltics finland and sweden?

so i have the resources mats and industries?

[fierce idol]

what's the best focus order and is it worth skipping focus in the first few months so i can justify on shanxi and xibei san ma?

[wild rune]

Yes

[wild rune]

Uhhh

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx

[wild rune]

You can make it up ngl

@glacial steeple would know

But like

Just go with what you find in your heart

[glacial steeple]

hi

you make mil

[indigo sapphire]

hello casey wassup @glacial steeple

[glacial steeple]

idk this time sucks to wake up at im not feeling alive rn

wbu

[indigo sapphire]

well im good

still brainstorming ideas for hoi4 multi mod @glacial steeple

since theres never ever enough ideas

i will keep building and producing old techs and equipments btw @glacial steeple

so i have a large numerical advantage

and a tech and manpower edge aswell

i will use the Instant construction command to get 100k tanks mbts afvs ifvs apcs etc @glacial steeple

as Estonia

ill also use the ALE command

to get a lot of stuff

[covert vortex]

I have a problem.
When I assign my fleet to support a naval invasion, the game simply doesn’t recognize the ships — it shows 0 ships.
I even tried playing as another country, but the same issue happens.
I have fuel, the ships are repaired, the sea region is selected, I have air superiority, the fleet is not in reserve, and an admiral is assigned.
The ships are located in the port from which the naval invasion support should operate.
What can I do?
I reinstalled the game, but it didn’t help.

[inner sparrow]

It isn’t naval invasion support anymore, u have to patrol the sea zone where ur naval invasion order goes through. Also make sure that your navy is patrolling in the actual sea zone an not just afking in the port

[dark thunder]

Screenshot would be nice

[normal lake]

Bruh just how many heavy fighters am I gonna need for the pacific

[fierce idol]

opium or no opium?

[tropic seal]

I've actually never ever used heavy fighters

Normal fighters and extra fuel tanks + a few airfields here and there seem to do the trick

[tropic seal]

113 convoys as america 1941??

[finite cloak]

hi im new and i have a question ? how to get more man power

[tropic seal]

Many ways. easiest way is to up conscription law

[normal lake]

I use heavies for the range plus so they cna help with air superiority better plus

[tropic seal]

if you're really low on mp then you can pick the desperate defence subdoctrine

[tropic seal]

yeah thats fair

[finite cloak]

where is it

[tropic seal]

go to your government tab (q)

should be a circle on the far left

has a dude in it

[normal lake]

But yeha how many wings am I supposed by Dec 1941 I feel like I'm underprepared

I have like around 30 divs for pacific is that fine??

[tropic seal]

I'm not sure I usually don't like playing america

[tropic seal]

Eh

maybe?

[normal lake]

I'm bringing some divs to Europe but the majority will be in the Pacific since my territory will be attacked more directly there

[finite cloak]

i see yes

[tropic seal]

i prefer having a few more divs though

[tropic seal]

majority??? how have divs do you have

[pallid wadi]

is this good tank div for 1939 soviet

[finite cloak]

do i go to top or bottom

[tropic seal]

i would use mech not motorised, 36w and flame tanks + change a few support comapnies

[tropic seal]

go down if you need more manpower you can hover over each level of conscription to see its effects

[pallid wadi]

im not sure how to do that

[tropic seal]

which one?

[finite cloak]

damn i did it and it grow fast asf

[pallid wadi]

36 width

[finite cloak]

ty man

[tropic seal]

add more battlations into the div template, in those empty cross spaces

[tropic seal]

mp isnt instant you need to up it before you run out

it gives a small amount each day

[normal lake]

Gold is pacific, silver is European, bronze is national guard

[tropic seal]

This is a general template

[tropic seal]

so like 85 divs?

[normal lake]

Hey Derpy I'm actually afk rn what if I ping you for advice later also yeah 85 so far

Probably might climb to 90 or 100 if I'm lucky

[tropic seal]

yeah sure but most people in this channel can probably give better advice

[tropic seal]

ive noticed you have 2.11m free manpower you should train more divs

espeically as america since you have the industry to equip those divs

[pliant condor]

anti air

[normal lake]

Oh like who

[pliant condor]

or if you mae air ignore me

[tropic seal]

yeah dont forget anti air beacuse the soviet air force is pretty terrible

[tropic seal]

idk im still pretty new too to the game

[normal lake]

Hmm I'll see abt that but I gotta be careful either way becuz I tried spawning 5 nat guards at once and it messed up my infantry equipment

Whar about you topazand

[tropic seal]

how many factories?

do you have?

[normal lake]

Can I rely on u for help

[tropic seal]

nvm i can see

298 facotries

[normal lake]

Forgot but my construction is churning up new mils every few minutes

[tropic seal]

you should have enough

yeah

its america

you can throw out anything

what's your template

[normal lake]

Lwk I think if ever my military isn't enough I can just wait it

[tropic seal]

i dont think youre making tanks right

[hoary glen]

Last time I played TFB is a year ago, so some stuff might have changed. Easiest way is to go on big servers and see if they have channels with templates. As I also mainly play Vanilla, tho I'd think they do something similar as well.

Like back in the day the Arty MIO gave 100% hard attack to Pack Arty, so Pack Arty 2 had better hard attack than AT. I think what you kinda do is 8 Inf, 5 Arty and 3 AT. But I'm not entirely certain. You need to check your stats and those of Tanks. Probably you want even more AT. It's just that Tanks can very easily click Inf, so don't over invest here, you just need something on the entire Frontline.

Tanks are some weird mix of like medium tanks with 2 TDs and 2 AA tanks or smth and rest mech. I haven't used them much, so I can't help you a lot here, but you will want to constantly upgrade your chassis to fit better guns as opposed to vanilla.

It's really important to not civ greed too much. Keep in mind that every factory you get is only around half of a vanilla factory and everything is at least twice as expensive. So really plan out where you put your mils on and ignore the rest. Unless they patched it disable horses in every template and don't build them. It had no stat change back then.

You need forts if you want to stop tanks with infantry. If you can't afford that you just focus on more mils for more Tanks. You want to try to get at least 30 Tank Divs to out click the Axis.

[normal lake]

That's the problemo I also forgot that..

[tropic seal]

ah fair enough then

[normal lake]

I'm making one here and there not consistently

[tropic seal]

yeah i mean if im not playing hte soviet union i usually dont field huge numbers of tanks

[normal lake]

Ngl I suck at hoi4 large scale combat like this like I can do proxies pretty good in tno but

I suck at wars becuz of my lack of knowledge of the nitty gritty of

[indigo sapphire]

hello yalls

[normal lake]

Template making

[hoary glen]

Learning TFB is a punishment, not a blessing. Anyone who wants to play a mod that just adds fake bloat without any redeeming qualities deserves to suffer it tho. Like you get these insane mil numbers, but all you do is micro manage to get out less Divs then you would have in vanilla at that time.

[indigo sapphire]

how should i conduct my wars as Estonia?

[tropic seal]

yeah i usually just follow the channel's templates

[indigo sapphire]

answer this

[normal lake]

I feel like a good template would be a good balance of most stats, a good enough org and maybe some concentration of some stats like breakthrough or defense

[hoary glen]

Wdym goated 😭 It's so annoying to set up waves now and planning takes forever.

[tropic seal]

theres not many templates that can do it all

[normal lake]

Like if it's infantry then its well rounded maybe add one arty for the breakthrough and/or max out the support companies

[tropic seal]

i usually employ a defensive inf template, maybe an offensive inf template and a tank template

and special forces obviously

[normal lake]

Oh yeah offensive infantry idrk how to

[tropic seal]

i just run the brick

[normal lake]

Amp up the offensive stats like attack and breakthrough but for defensive

I just spam infantry

Since infantry I think gives out more defense than attack

[tropic seal]

yeah infantry defense is cheap template

18w, aa, artillery and engineer

they'll hold nicely

If you're fighting in the Pacific I'd use mountaineers and marines

[normal lake]

Wdym by bricks

I'm concentrating my marine forces in pacific

[tropic seal]

Mountaineers go hard on the hilly and mountainous islands like new guinea Borneo and Japan

[tropic seal]

36 width

[normal lake]

What battalions do you use for

Offensive

Do you like

Add frontline artillery

[tropic seal]

Support battlations?

No I don't use line arty

[normal lake]

Right everybody hates it I think

[tropic seal]

Iirc I had like logistics field hospitals flame tank companies and assault engineer ls

I think

[tropic seal]

Some people use it

[normal lake]

That's the difference between offensive methinks, defensive has less support or js basic engineers and arty but

Offensive divs mean you gotta go ham on the support

[tropic seal]

Yeah I mean in singleplayer it barely matters

The enemy tank divs are so bad they usually can't even punch through the cheap 18w divs

[pallid wadi]

am i cooked

[tropic seal]

Change your notification priority

I always have it on triple truck

Especially on countries with big enough truck production like the Soviets

[tropic seal]

Notification*

Bruh

Motorisation

[pallid wadi]

ok and also how do i make those tank divisions that are capped at 5

[tropic seal]

Wdym capped

[light knoll]

why are you using so few divisions. use your entire army

[tropic seal]

Shove the generals under a field marshal too

What template are you pushing with @pallid wadi

[pallid wadi]

i capped finland

[tropic seal]

Aight

[tropic seal]

Ur using an 18w defensive template right

[pallid wadi]

my infantry template is this

[tropic seal]

Uh

I personally don't use line artillery

[pallid wadi]

what should i use instead

[coarse finch]

If you remove the line arty that'd be fine

[coarse finch]

Nothing. Just 9 infantry

[pallid wadi]

ok

so then that would be fine?

[serene karma]

With the proper supports and tactics yes

[tropic seal]

Do they really need recon

[coarse finch]

Eh not really. But recon is the least concerning thing in that division

[tropic seal]

I run that without the line arty and rrcon

[tropic seal]

Lol fair

For defense only

[coarse finch]

Removing line arty is way more important

[pallid wadi]

i removed it

is this also bad division

[tropic seal]

Use mechanised

Make 36w

Flame tanks are a must

Use assault engi instead of normal

And use ranger or armoured recon

Remove aa and artillery

Swap them for like logistics

[coarse finch]

I wouldn't remove AA

[tropic seal]

Oh fair

Artillery

[pallid wadi]

ok

[tropic seal]

Unless if your air force is fully dominant yeah keep aa

[coarse finch]

Only if you have good air and even then its debatable

[tropic seal]

Ah I see

[pallid wadi]

im not sure how to make mechanised divisions

Im kinda a noob

[tropic seal]

I mean near the end of the war I usually end up fielding like 3000-100 fighter ratios

[tropic seal]

Research them

From the truck line

[pallid wadi]

ok

[coarse finch]

Don't worry about that for now. Use motorised and you can worry about mech later

[fresh cloud]

whats the difference with the versions or sm bro

f303

n stuff

[coarse finch]

You mean checksum?

[fresh cloud]

yeah that

[coarse finch]

Its just how the game shows compatibility for multiplayer

[indigo sapphire]

how should i conduct my wars as estonia?

[coarse finch]

If you have the same checksum you can join the lobby of the host. Thats it

[coarse finch]

Against who?

[indigo sapphire]

first baltics

[fresh cloud]

why is it like that tho? like why doesnt it just have everyone compatible

[coarse finch]

Because it'd break the game? Like if you're on a different version the game works differently

Same with save files

[fresh cloud]

oh ok

[coarse finch]

If you load a 2 year old game in the current version it won't work

[fresh cloud]

aight thanks for explaining

[indigo sapphire]

yo chat kat answer

i wanna conduct wars against baltics as Estonia but how

[tropic seal]

wdym how

as in how ot start the war

or what to do during the war

ive never played estonia though

[indigo sapphire]

i mean how do quickly win the war

against baltics

[tropic seal]

just inf should be able to overru nthe baltics

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[tropic seal]

i dont think you need tank divs

[coarse finch]

As estonia get some good infantry divisions and then focus on air. You don't have the production for tanks or anything special but just having fighters and CAS you'll win

[indigo sapphire]

is buying purchasing and getting licenses also good as estonia?

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[coarse finch]

Against USSR you'll want to go pure defense. Hold rivers and let them attack so they waste equipment

[coarse finch]

Not really

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[indigo sapphire]

why?

[pallid wadi]

which rivers should we defend at

[coarse finch]

Its just a waste of civs

[indigo sapphire]

OH alr

thx kat

[tropic seal]

the river chain thats a fair bit behind minsk

[coarse finch]

Don't remember the baltic map so not sure

[indigo sapphire]

should i try to take over finland and sweden aswell

[tropic seal]

dont put all your troops behind it though

there are some supply hubs

that are west of the river chain

you'll need those

[pallid wadi]

i meana s ussr

against germans

[tropic seal]

i remember the chain starts from riga

riga to stalino

iirc

[stark imp]

any help with killing stalin?

is this goind well?

[tropic seal]

0 fuel

no

you need synths

[stark imp]

how?

[tropic seal]

build synths

[stark imp]

oh i see

[tropic seal]

get a field marshal

[stark imp]

will do

[pallid wadi]

i personlally would encircle their forward position in minsk

[coarse finch]

1. Use field marshalls
2. Fuel
3. Resources
4. Focus on encirclements
5. Spend your political power if you can
6. Spend your military xp

That should help a bit

[tropic seal]

what template are you pushing with?

and can you show the air map

[stark imp]

ok one sec

[tropic seal]

are you using tank divs

[stark imp]

bang

[tropic seal]

air looks alright

[tropic seal]

the inf divs uh

[stark imp]

i know i could be using artillery tanks but i will switch after the war is over

[stark imp]

how to improve?

[tropic seal]

same with the tank divs

[tropic seal]

remove every other line unit except hat 3 by 3 block of inf

add support anti air

thats ur inf units fixed

for tanks

use medium tanks not light tanks

remove the motorised artillery

[stark imp]

ok

[tropic seal]

use recon rangers / armored recon instead of motorised recon

use assayult engineers

use support aa instead of suppor tartillery

and make the tank div 36w

[stark imp]

would but i dont have aa production and its too late in the war to change, later though i will

[tropic seal]

and dont push with the infs

[coarse finch]

Don't use line arty and add support aa to your infantry. For tanks you want a way large division. Go for 10 mediums and 8 motorized

[tropic seal]

let the tank divs do the heavy lifting

[stark imp]

ok

[coarse finch]

Just start producing it

[stark imp]

yeah

[tropic seal]

yeah ur in feb 42

thats not bad

you seem to have a decent eco too

400 factories so it should be fine

but yeah fuel first priority

without fuel your air force doesnt really function

[tropic seal]

by the way id keep some stuff near italy

the allies like invading from there

[stark imp]

oh shit

[tropic seal]

and mussolini sucks at defending

[stark imp]

why?

[tropic seal]

il duce will cap like in a few months to the allied ai if they get a landing

then they have direct access to you

[stark imp]

allies? what allies?

[tropic seal]

oh thats good

how is america not at war with you lol

[stark imp]

too scared

[tropic seal]

in my runs they usually declare on me like mid 41 man

[stark imp]

but im still getting pushed back by russa

[tropic seal]

yeah hold

dont advance