ask-for-help-here

[indigo sapphire]

nah

i like to larp as Estonia

[knotty condor]

Do militia get infantry bonuses from specific sub doctrines?

[sweet summit]

Yup, you might need to be communsit though

[knotty condor]

What about doctrines like large unit tactics and grand assault? Just wondering if they get the attack buffs

[indigo sapphire]

are there mods that adds stuff from 1900 till 2026?

[neat widget]

anything that says "army" or "leg infantry" should work with militia

[indigo sapphire]

answer this

[neat widget]

@cursive fiber you should improve relations with czechoslovakia before focus ends

And mostly build military factories because you could go to war with Germany by doing this

[cursive fiber]

can you unmute ?

[neat widget]

Do you have 1939 infantry equipment?

[daring gorge]

guys my resistance is less than 50percent in danzig but i still cant purge the nazis why is that?

[neat widget]

Something weird is going in in your game @cursive fiber because improve relations shouldn't stop until you reach 100 added opinion, which clearly is not happening

[cursive fiber]

thats wierd

[neat widget]

Yeah run doesn't work if you can't improve opinion

By the way, considering researching some techs like industry or infantry equipment slightly ahead of time

Because those are the most important things, unless you're going for a tank or air build in which case artillery and air modules becomes most important

[raw magnet]

I'm doing a fascist greece run, and I completed the focus perk "open up the country" which gives me investment schemes, I was wondering what do Investment schemes do exactly?
Thanks!

[night obsidian]

i didnt attach china fast enough and couldnt take it out

i refuse to give up thoough so time to start a new game lol

[gray hull]

Rise of nations although its a wip rn

[indigo sapphire]

alr

ik that mod i have it

i do also have md mod

[gray hull]

Md is good but slow

[indigo sapphire]

yes ik

[modest maple]

Just beat ethiopia, what templates should I do

[raw magnet]

add a few artillery imo

after that I think you're good, you can add a few supports but I wouldn't touch it after that

[daring gorge]

is this real?

[daring gorge]

how do i even defend agaist germany as poland

i have 80divs and im still getting spanked everywhere

[inner sparrow]

straight up making the division worse with that

[raw magnet]

WELL nobody given me any good templates when I asked lol

[daring gorge]

that doesnt explain why you give them bad divisions

[raw magnet]

Well I wouldn't give bad divisions if I knew any good division templates

[daring gorge]

so why give bad templates if you know theyre bad

[raw magnet]

I don't think their bad, because I used them for a greek run

and I was able to push the enemy

[daring gorge]

"yeah im not good at football but you should totally elastico all the way to the goal"

[daring gorge]

theyre ethiopia

worse economics

and line inf isnt good as ive been told

[raw magnet]

you know, it wouldn't be so harsh if someone given beginner friendly division templates than tell someone their division template is bad.

[daring gorge]

what are you even talking about 😭

youre wrong

accept it

[raw magnet]

I'm trying to be helpful and you tell me my division template is bad

[daring gorge]

your just tryna play as the victim when your not

[daring gorge]

cuz they are

you are not the victim mr 😭

[raw magnet]

then why not you suggest some if you think you're so mighty?

[inner sparrow]

theres nearly all division templates in this chat under pinned

and they are overall decent/good

if no one directly answers you look there

[raw magnet]

Thanks for the advice!

[light knoll]

does having flame tanks support company without any tanks in it give the full terrain bonuses

[hoary glen]

I think it doesn't, but feel free to try.

If you deploy the div it should show the terrain bonuses if you click on the stat card of the unit itself

[upbeat arrow]

i should take the armor recon out of my cav divisions first yea?

[indigo sapphire]

how do i win as usa

[indigo sapphire]

@glacial steeple

like how do i turn everyone to full democracy

[upbeat arrow]

if britian goes facist again, when should i as usa demand their american holdings under monreo doctrine?

[daring gorge]

is it normal that i dont have a thing for special forces? im trying to upgrade my marines with naval exp

my dockyards are free but they dont build anything what do i do?

<@&916727971820240976>

[pastel tiger]

They are repairing, 5 of them (in yellow)

[daring gorge]

oohhh

[wintry oxide]

is area defense order even useful? Or should I just place all my troops at the coast?

i've already suffered 2 naval invasions 😄

[glacial steeple]

theyre decent

[coarse finch]

Yes. You won't have to micro as much

[wintry oxide]

also is there a way to make the notification about enemy capturing my land more obvious? I didnt notice till it was almost too late that Im being invaded 😄

[coarse finch]

There's a pretty loud sound alert for it

[gleaming quest]

What's the most fun and easy to learn countries/paths for noobs? I love poland monarchy but i'm too ass i don't really what I'm doing lol

[coarse finch]

Germany is probably easiest

[wintry oxide]

oh 😄 makes sense I didnt see it, I dont play with sound

[wintry oxide]

Portugal with allies was nice

[coarse finch]

UK can be fun if you want to try and defend france while also having a backup if it fails

[coarse finch]

Portugal doesn't really have much to do. So you don't learn

[coarse finch]

Yea. Most hoi players get ptsd just from the sound lmao

[wintry oxide]

why not, you can do everything with it, just smaller scale 😄

at least I felt like that

[coarse finch]

Yea but you don't do as much. Plus less room for error if stuff goes wrong

[wintry oxide]

maybe

was less overwhelming for me before playing as USA

[coarse finch]

Like germany you can easily win with anything

[coarse finch]

US is boring tho. Unless you do alt hist

Like yea sitting around doing economic simulator until 1940

[wintry oxide]

yep, I did the civil war

my game is pretty much fantasy atm

ww2 was usual ww2 plus allies vs axis vs usa over south america 😄

[glacial steeple]

even then imo

[candid turret]

Anyone knows how to make the french ai defend itself from Germany

Exhausted of playing the UK n having to defend France

[glacial steeple]

the ai wont

[candid turret]

So no matter what setting or anything France is destined to collapse very quick

[glacial steeple]

i think alt demo gets rid of disjointed but yeah

[candid turret]

I understand

Hang on what was that mod thatd let me just spawn troops

As far as I know your able to use aircraft carrier planes to assist ur troops

[upbeat arrow]

when you click on your naval taskforce, theres a mission called invasion support, when you can launch any tas forces assigned to the invaded sea zone and on invasion support will move to assist, however when the landing is successful or repelled the task force returns to port with that invasion. i usually manually assign my carriers offshore and assign air wings missions to different areas that way, but with battleship bombardment i think you need the mission active.

defensive doctrine or unyielding defender for my national guard?

[light knoll]

what are the meta naval doctrines

[wild rune]

by winning

[south zephyr]

Which of these are actually good? Before this, i always chose Superior Firepower

[haughty vortex]

are these focuses worth doing?

[daring gorge]

yes?

[glacial steeple]

indiv is the best

because it gives a LOT of hp

[inner sparrow]

individual snd large unit is good

[karmic lintel]

why cant my navy patrol here ?

[trail reef]

can canada core the usa in any path?

[inner mountain]

do i need to own the tiles to get the anchivement?

[trail reef]

do u have the shetland islands

[cold garnet]

Honestly they can all be very good

You mostly pick to tailor for your specific needs and availability of options

Other than defensive posture and assault inf actually

Not bad but there are directly better alternatives that serve the same purpose

[inner mountain]

yes

[tribal skiff]

Why do my Naval bombers suck? I tried both basic small ones with one torp and medium ones with bomb bay + 2 torps, both engine II and III, torpedo I and II, and all they seem to do is go down in flames with little or no results. I guess having a couple hundred is not enough?

[inner mountain]

got it now

[upbeat arrow]

will france take canada?

[dire jackal]

how many civs do I need for ussr at the start?

[inner sparrow]

they dont suck, they great ur probably just using them wrong or have a bad design

but enough navs with green air over any sea zone results in a dead navy, especially against ai

[tribal skiff]

So do you need air superiority even if your nav bombers are attacking a couple of cruisers with no air cover? That is, you must also have fighter to give air cover even if the bombers have to worry about flak only?

[glacial steeple]

fighters spot ships

naval bomber goes after ship

any plane that flies in the zone does a bit of spotting

[tribal skiff]

That must be it. There's really nothing much to design, until you get better torps and so on? Are floats needed for small and medium nav bombers? And bonus question, what would be best German MIO for medium nav bombers? I tend to go for Fockewulf, since I use it for other things too and tend to ignore tac bombers mostly

Or are mediums waste of resources?

[inner sparrow]

do something like this and just upgrade the torpedoes later on if u still need them

[fathom thistle]

Just gonna mean it in general go for all offensive stats always. For specific mio wise go for the one that has more specific bonuses for the thing you want to produce

[tribal skiff]

Yes, but looking at Dornier, FW, Arado, and Heinkel, they are give some bonuses for medium naval bombers (and transports), but I can't figure which one would be the best for that specific use? And I guess Fieseler is for small frames only

[tribal skiff]

I am surprised those templates can carry all that with level II engines? Oh I see they're three engine versions?
And no floats, so that answers that question.

By the way, is there somewhere I can check what bonuses a given MIO will get you when it's completed?

[tropic seal]

What's the strongest South American country

Is it brazil

[onyx trout]

What is the easiest/funnest formable to do. Trynna re learn the game

[glacial steeple]

easiest is probably benelux

you go down like 4 focuses as the netherlands

[onyx trout]

Will try I promise

[vital plinth]

Are heavry fighters worse in combat than normal fighters ?

Or is it the same just range difference ? I understand their agility is worse idk how that makes difference or what it does ?

[scenic nacelle]

I think 1:1 heavy fighters win?

But in the long run normal fighters are better

Not sure exactly

[fathom thistle]

they are better but usually not worth it IC cost wise compared to fighters.

[glacial steeple]

no

well technically but they use double manpower

[vital plinth]

I have alot of factories around e
311 mills

[inner sparrow]

heavy fighters perform better in combat

but most countries aren’t viable doing them

ofc in sp doesn’t matter, heavy fighters in sp are just unnecessary

[vital plinth]

Only limited cases like Africa or places with little air spaces where you need to use from range ?

[inner sparrow]

no? they are better in any case but its just not worth doing them in sp

in mp as example usa makes heavy fighters bc they can rush advanced medium airframe with a 300% bonus

[fathom thistle]

everything heavier is better in majority so if u have industry for it go yolo. You could apply it to other stuff, heavy tanks or shbb are also better but you are just not having enough of industry to produce it in great capacities. Thats why the middle path is usually the best like for tanks are mediums considered the best IC= stat wise

[inner sparrow]

industry is the smallest problem, they are usually never worth it bc the ai doesn’t have a good enough army, navy or airforce that makes them required in sp

[fathom thistle]

yep, only if you want to like RP that you are way superior or sum

[honest nexus]

Question, is the new naval doctrine capital hunters any good?

[jolly escarp]

how should I cap the UK before Usa joins?

[split perch]

guys how do i select a type of ship from all my ships to sort them out

plz help

[cloud notch]

how to make man power

[fathom thistle]

increase conscription law

or specific focuses

[vital plinth]

Will a fleet only get supply when they go back to port ?

[mighty gate]

Hello cn someone teach me to play hoi4?

[fathom thistle]

sure, you can stream your game and I can give ya basics if ya want

[vital plinth]

I changed my port base to a level 10 port of a allied nation but my ship is still low supply

[mighty gate]

yes please

[vital plinth]

It has 141 ships so idk if that’s the reason ?

[tepid umbra]

That's the reason

Yes

Click on it...

[hollow totem]

how do I deal with enemy spies? I got maxed passive defense and 2 spies on counter intelligence and im on level 6

[night obsidian]

ok, so first time playing Japan (well first full playthrough I failed like 3 times and restarted).

I've conquered China & puppeted china, its late 1937. There are a lot of focus paths I could go down, any recommendations on what I shoudl be keeping an eye out for? I want to go South and get that rubber, but unsure how best to handle it without kicking off a fight with the US too early.

[bold sundial]

Generally speaking, is it safe to stack updated submods? For example, I have both the Expanded and RP submods for RT56.

[night obsidian]

mods? I like mods. Do any of them add models to the game / do you have any QoL recommendations (not looking for anything that alters balance/focus/gameplay

[honest nexus]

The little ship type symbol when you click on fleet

[honest nexus]

Strategic bombing campaigns over London until you lose most of the luftewaffe.

At least according to Hitler

Doesn't work well in this. Especially since there are no civilian casualties

[upbeat arrow]

did i ruin my template?

[night obsidian]

what year are you" I've only been able to invade around 1939-40, after that it gets dicy.

I had builts TONS of fighters and parked them all in the channel for a few months, it slowly killed all their fighters until they only had biplanes. (don't immediately go over england as they have high lvl AA that melt your planes, wait until you've diminished their air and then push planes so you get air superiotity over S england.

Have your CAS/Naval Bombers all Nav Strike & Port Strike on the channel while you plan invasion. This will help later by putting their ships in port when you try get dominance of channel.

When invade, you need a few BIG / Elite templates to land. Marines preferably, and at that stage you can only land 12 divisions. Spread them out so max 2-3 divisions land on a tile (do not 12 stack 1 tile). Main objective is to secure Dover so that you can land supply & reinforce.

I tried and failed UK invasion about 8 times and spent probably 15 hours trying to figure it out, but finally thats what worked. Oh and major thing, you can add tanks to your marine template and still get amphib landing. You have enough Marines + Pioneers so that Amphib gets 50% bonus, and then have enough tanks for the hardness & soft attack, and that division is insanely good

sorry for the essay, im just a bit passionate about invading the UK in this game

[neat widget]

Your dockyards aren't free, but other than that 5 are repairing ships

[viscid abyss]

What is a good spotting cruiser design

[glacial steeple]

chat

[night obsidian]

I go cheap 1-2 light battery, 2 airplanes, radar...

[viscid abyss]

Alr thanks

[topaz yew]

Hello, how do you get anti air to shoot down planes? Ive got anti air divisions and anti air buildings but theyre not shooting anything down

[south zephyr]

How do i get rid of "escalator clause invoked" as USA?

[night obsidian]

have your own planes is the only way I've found that works, or building a lot of ground AA...

[topaz yew]

Ground anti air? Is that different to anti air buildings?

[night obsidian]

i meant AA buildings

[topaz yew]

Yeah I've got those

But they're not shooting down anything

Even though theres 3k enemy fighters in the area

And my anti air support isnt doing anything either

[honest nexus]

I was being sarcastic

Antinaval planes are best

[night obsidian]

oh crap i responded to the wrong comment, my bad

i meant to respond to the guy you responded to

[night obsidian]

I have some tips above that were meant for you

[vital plinth]

I can’t have a big a fleet under one admiral ?

[primal cove]

can i somehow designate my civil factories to build multiple other civil factories at once? Rn i only got 11 factories building 1 factory. While the other 3 i wanted to buy are not being build

[vital plinth]

All my 3 battle fleets are low supply or supply icon , 2 is split into 2 capital ships and 26 ships
One is 148 ships with 3 carriers and 20 battle ships

[split perch]

no one in the army shouldve listened to big H bro😭

[gray hull]

He shouldn't have stopped bombing the British airfields

[honest nexus]

I mean it worked at first

They should've pulled back when it stopped

[split perch]

he shouldn't have told rundstedt to pause in dunkirk in the first place

[honest nexus]

They would've had luftewaffe for the Russian front

[split perch]

but this isnt a debating channel

so imma stop right here

[gray hull]

Yeah he made some mistakes

[austere roost]

If it wasn't for mustache man the Germans would have retreated all the way back to Germany during the 1941 Soviet winter counteroffensive

[night obsidian]

hey, so is it even worth having carrier fighters? or should I just put naval bombers and thats it?

[tepid umbra]

You can, but move them to diff ports

[austere roost]

Naval bombers are enough

[night obsidian]

Im seeing that, although I did just read that if you're isolated (like japan gets) its worth having 1-2 fighters (5:1 ratio)

for port strikes

[vital plinth]

Split Them off ?

[tepid umbra]

Make multiple task forces

Under one admiral

[fathom thistle]

If you have like 4 carriers u can put fighter in last 2 carries with 2 each

[scenic bone]

can yall help me

my icons are too big

i tried changing it to native 1920x1080p

[fathom thistle]

But like nav carr bombs are just so much better than normal nav bombers

[scenic bone]

but that doesnt work

[mossy silo]

I have over 2000 hours in hoi4, and I have not played any country except for Peru. I have purchased every DLC just in case they added anything to the great Peruvian focus tree.

Yet to my astonishment, not a single one has improved Peru. Are the devs stupid?

I refuse to conquer any other countries, as I only wish to play as Peru.

Recently, for the first time, I reached the end of the Peru focus tree and I AM FURIOUS! Why did it end at this? Where is part 2eru??????? If you’re going to ignore Peru and give them a lame focus tree at least give a second part!

DO BETTER PARADOX. 😡

[scenic bone]

whats a good ui scaling

help?!?!

[tepid umbra]

What

[scenic bone]

the buttons and stuff are too big

[tepid umbra]

So shrink them?

[scenic bone]

I tried setting it to borderless windowed and fullscreen

[scenic bone]

How

[tepid umbra]

Ui scaling is preference bruh

[tepid umbra]

In the settings

[scenic bone]

its on 1x rn

Do I increase or decrease

[night obsidian]

i was just going to go a 1v5 ratio

[tepid umbra]

Dude

Decrease

[scenic bone]

I dunno

alr

Thats what I need

they too big right now

[night obsidian]

to lazy to optimize

[scenic bone]

I cant make it bigger than 1x

I'm confused now bruh

[tepid umbra]

Make it smaller

Mfs just be lying

[scenic bone]

Makes no sense dawg

I have 345 hours but forgot how to do this stuff

[tepid umbra]

If you're finna lie don't do it in this channel

[tepid umbra]

Yooo you tryna join an mp group? 👀
And are you oce region?

[scenic bone]

Mah already tried what the great said and it worked

[scenic bone]

Im eu

[tepid umbra]

Oh nvr mind

[dapper wren]

Maybe your scaling quantum tunneled and thats why

[scenic bone]

😭 🙏

[dapper wren]

Consider yourself lucky

[glacial steeple]

must be hard getting oce lobbies

[scenic bone]

Yapping level is up

Iq is down

[tepid umbra]

Im not oce but i'm recruiting for a server which is like the only one i've seen

[scenic bone]

🗣️ 🔥

[tepid umbra]

And everyone keeps dipping

[glacial steeple]

can i join to see it lol

[tepid umbra]

Uhhh

Sure ig

[dapper wren]

Im in the 82nd percentile there

[glacial steeple]

also no server links on this server

[scenic bone]

Another question whats the best mod and whats the nest ww1 mod great wat redux or great war i forgot

[tepid umbra]

Yeah i know

[scenic bone]

Best*

[dapper wren]

Redux is the only updated one

[scenic bone]

Oh alr

[dapper wren]

The devs are die hard obsessed with ww1 and germany

[scenic bone]

Am hittinf 40fps

🥀

[dapper wren]

Amazing computer

[scenic bone]

Intel iris xe🔥

16gb ram

45 fps nnow let it cook

[vital plinth]

But I have carriers so don’t I need them together in a big group ?

[tepid umbra]

No

[light knoll]

wouldn't recommend great war redux

unless you just wanna play what exactly happened in ww1

[grave eagle]

How can I declare peace on someone.

I annexed Yugoslavia but his allies (Romania and Czechslovakia) stills on war with me

[glacial steeple]

you cant unless you take out the faction majors

[grave eagle]

So I have to invade both?

[light knoll]

yes

[remote bone]

what should i do

[light knoll]

I'd personally take the compliance gain

[remote bone]

Alr

[remote bone]

I havent had a manpower issue as the moghal empire so

[light knoll]

yea the manpower is a non issue it's mainly the research speed vs the compliance

[night obsidian]

what makes the difference between battleship and battlecruiser? Is it just the armor?

[glacial steeple]

speed

but yes armor

[night obsidian]

oh i meant like, what do you change on the template for it to recognise "battle cruiser" over "battleship

ok speed, interesting

so I could specifically design a fleet for speed then... hmmmmmm

[jagged hull]

I think I messed up

[hollow totem]

how do I deal with enemy spies I have maxed counter intelligence and 3 spies on the mission yet the activity is at max

[bold sundial]

I got RT56 because it gives Ireland a focus tree. The Expanded submod enhances that. The Great War Redux and Expanded are WW I-related. Kaiserredux and Expanded deal with Germany winning WW I. The Napoleonic Wars Redux is exactly what it says on the tin. Equestria at War/New Technology/Project Phoenix are My Little Pony-related. Old World Blues is Fallout-related.

[plucky otter]

Equestria at war mentioned

Peak

[night obsidian]

My Little Pony....

I'm actually not surprised

[plucky otter]

Yes

And its good mod

[night obsidian]

of course it is. I just know a lot of effort was made

ugh, im going to have to play it at some point

[neat widget]

when I did this I took the secular administration

[plucky otter]

More effort than all of TNO combined

[neat widget]

You can get weekly stability other ways, but the population might be an issue

[night obsidian]

yeah im not ready to go into game changing mods, just picked this game up this year, still making my way through the different main factions

will definitely pick up any visual mods though, like things that give extra models or skins

most I find are outdated

tempted to try the infantry editor at some point though

[vital plinth]

Can someone help me out with this naval stuff and supply organization for naval anyone has time ?

[gusty briar]

Is air cavalry just a bad sub doctine? It seems weird that each level only boosts 1 type of support company, and u cant use the different support companies together anyway

With helis in general I never know which one to use and this makes me even more unsure

[light knoll]

you're literally India

population is not an issue

and you get cores on burma, Afghanistan, iran, and iraq as a bonus

i mainly just think the compliance gain is nice

[topaz yew]

hello, does anyone have tips for pushing the germans out of this tile? they dont seem to budge at all

its a supply hub so id very much like to take it back

[light knoll]

what do your divisions look like

[gusty briar]

Take a tile with part of the rail that leads to that hub to cut it off from supply

[topaz yew]

its connected on both directions and wouldnt crossing the river with less directions be even harder?

[light knoll]

ok so. the tabk division is bad. you want something like this. use self propelled artillery, use mech and when you don't have it use cavalry, and make it 36 width

also maintenance company is bad

[topaz yew]

ive used spgs quite a lot and i thought tanks might be good for a first try, ill switch them back

[light knoll]

for single player, soft atk is all that matters, and spg give the most of it. tho the optimal thing to usually do is to just invest in infantry+airforce rather than tanks

[cursive mason]

I released N. Ireland, Scotland, and Wales as the UK and instantly became England. Then when I used console commands to give England all the states that were just released, the UK didn’t reform. Am I doing something wrong?

[topaz yew]

36 or 38?

[light knoll]

either is fine

[autumn thistle]

You’re very low on supply because of how many units you have in one area, try moving some of the tanks away until th little red box goes away

[light knoll]

the general rule is that for offence, you want big divisions, and for defense, you rather have multiple small divisions

[topaz yew]

when playing as romania the infantry couldnt push at all against the germans so i thought i needed something heavier

[topaz yew]

okay thank you, the video i was copying for the soviets was a bit outdated

[topaz yew]

is it better to have fewer units and more supply than more units with less?

[heady skiff]

What are the most required dlc's cus I dont wanna be spending extra money on dlc's that are NOT important

[pallid locust]

Nsb agt bba

[glacial steeple]

wdym supply?

you should always fully supply and equip your units

its very bad not to

[topaz yew]

supply remaining in province

[topaz yew]

i just changed them from tanks to spgs so thayre gonna be pretty rough for a wwhile

[vivid cairn]

Is there any method to constantly naval invade britain in 1939 to 1940 january with naval invasion how should i put my navy et cetera? As germany

[heady skiff]

Why agt?

[pliant condor]

if you don't use up all the supply obviously it's better to have more

even if you do, filling up the combat width is def most important

[topaz yew]

yea obviously

[topaz yew]

so i should avoid having divisions in reserves if its doing bad on the supply?

[pliant condor]

well technically yes

but the question is more of why are you having bad supply

[topaz yew]

this here

[topaz yew]

because they have the supply hub

[pliant condor]

this is because you lost the supply hub

[topaz yew]

and i just switched from tanks to spgs

yea

[pliant condor]

what

did you just replace the tank with spg?

your tank division has no strength

[topaz yew]

yeah i was just told to

[pliant condor]

???

[topaz yew]

the tanks were doing nothing before though

[pliant condor]

if you had been making tanks, use tanks

use what equipment you have

[topaz yew]

oh my days

[pliant condor]

if you change all the tank to spg

your tank would be stuck in stockpile doing nothing

obviously the answer is that you don't want to make tank in the first place

but use what equipment you have made

[pallid locust]

Depends how u play

[topaz yew]

so i shouldnt have done this?

[pliant condor]

template is not what matters in the game the most

again

[topaz yew]

even despite that, the tanks were not getting in at all

[pliant condor]

if your division has no tank in them, it doesn't matter what template you use

[pliant condor]

look at your stockpile

do you have spare tank? spare spg?

[topaz yew]

so were the tanks not getting in because there were toomany of them on the tiles?

[pliant condor]

no

ok there is too many in the tiles

[gusty briar]

Its gonna take so so long for u too make enough SPGs to supply those divisions

[pliant condor]

but that's not why

[topaz yew]

so why were my tanks not getting in?

[pliant condor]

never keep more than the combat width of tanks on the tile

for each tile only keep 2 tanks

[topaz yew]

so yes?

[pliant condor]

first of all do you have tanks?

[topaz yew]

them i mean my tanks sorry

[topaz yew]

yeah

[pliant condor]

is your division tank

or spg

[topaz yew]

it was

[pliant condor]

then it would get in

if you change it to spg it won't obviously

[topaz yew]

so was i not getting as tanks because there were too many of my tanks on the tile?

[pliant condor]

no

it has nothing to do with that

it just takes a bit of time

but you shouldn't have so many tank in one place regardless

[topaz yew]

i thought you said it here?

ohh okay

[pliant condor]

it's two different things

also look at your stockpile

use whatever equipment you have

[topaz yew]

yeah

[pliant condor]

if you have 5k tank surplus and 5k spg deficit, swap half of the spg to tanks

for example

do the math

[topaz yew]

lets just say that im using tanks

cuz for the past 6 months i have been fighting that tile with tanks

[pliant condor]

ok

[topaz yew]

is there any specific reason why i couldnt take the tile

i had lots of tanks and 4 directions to attack it from

[glacial steeple]

23 tanks with the strenght of maybe 5 tanks

[pliant condor]

and zeros upply

[glacial steeple]

as they eat up all the combat width (LIMITED number)

you can only fit so much in a battle

[pliant condor]

your tank would have no fuel because it is outside of the range of supply hub most likely

[topaz yew]

okay so the reason wwhy i couldnt take the tile was because i had too many tanks on the tiles?

[pliant condor]

what you do is take out maybe like 6 tanks

[heady skiff]

I just mean like dlc's that you rlly shouldnt go without like that would work with all nations

[pliant condor]

put 2 per tile on the tile around it that HAS SUPPLY

get full planning

[glacial steeple]

its because no supply on tile, no logistics to replace losses, too many units in 1 place so they couldnt even all join

and bad modifiers

[pliant condor]

it's because having too many tanks doesn't do anything(it won't get into combat), means you have no supply, and your tanks were underequipped in the first place

[topaz yew]

okay so it is what i thought, what about this?

[pliant condor]

it's just how equipment reinforces in

its automatic

[topaz yew]

but thank you both

[pliant condor]

in your case you probably don;t have tank in stockpile

[glacial steeple]

second and third image are the exact same division with different modifiers

[pliant condor]

so it won't get in

[glacial steeple]

green good, red bad

[pliant condor]

also if you were clicking the tank into the tile nonstop you would be losing a gazzilion tanks per day from attrition and they can't reinforce in when you are in combat

[topaz yew]

in this situation should i not try to switch to spgs then?

[pliant condor]

the thing to remember is that you want to use the equipment you produced

it's easier if you keep making tanks

tanks are probably like 40% worse than spg

it's the best if you switch to spg, and gradually add them to your division

but not using your equipment is the worst thing you could do

[topaz yew]

that seems very significant if theyre not being used and im looking at 3% attack upgrades

[pliant condor]

the most correct thing to do is switch to spg and gradually replace the tank with spg in your division

as you make more

and the tank stockpile would be depleted gradually

[topaz yew]

ohh, so like how i was told to gradually switch my divisions from light tanks to mediums, gradually switch them from tanks to spgs?

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt look like there is one

[glacial steeple]

click the army tab below the speed bar

show us whats in your army

[pliant condor]

in general, you don't need to go through this hurdle because you just make whatever you want to have in the end

if you make spg, you only make spg

[pliant condor]

but yes if you were on the wrong tank, that's the thing to do

[glacial steeple]

click top right of the new tab

[topaz yew]

okay thanks

[glacial steeple]

it shows you exactly whats in your army

[topaz yew]

equipment in field?

[glacial steeple]

yes

it shows that

[tepid umbra]

I clicked the wrong emoji 🥶

[glacial steeple]

itll tell you exactly what you have in the field

[topaz yew]

v

[glacial steeple]

instead of guessing/looking at deficits

[tepid umbra]

What tank divs are you using

[glacial steeple]

you only have enough SPGs for about 1 division

[tepid umbra]

And what tank designs

[tepid umbra]

Isn't it over 1

[glacial steeple]

no

[tepid umbra]

More like 2.5

[topaz yew]

yeah i only started producing them like a week ago

[pliant condor]

and show your stockpile

[glacial steeple]

its 400 per

[pliant condor]

how many medium tank do you have left

[glacial steeple]

or 320

[tepid umbra]

Huh

[glacial steeple]

depending on div design

320-400

[tepid umbra]

Oh i thought they had 900

[tepid umbra]

This is why i'm not helper ❤️‍🩹

[pliant condor]

ok so let's do the math

you have 7.6K medium tank

and like say 500 spg

[pliant condor]

also your tank has no AA and no support company

[topaz yew]

i was trying to copy the division that the other person sent

this one wwhile i research the other companies

[glacial steeple]

im a helper and i actively get things wrong constantly dw

[tepid umbra]

I'd not reccommend motorized

[topaz yew]

ohh the other person used mechanised

im never using a bittrsteel tutorial ever again bro

[tepid umbra]

Yeah butni thought it said 900 cuz the total was 9k 💔

[tepid umbra]

Yes

Mechanized is great

Motorized, not so much

[pliant condor]

let's say we give you a bit more time and get up to like 600 SPG(since you are making them), then roughly you can make a division with 2 spg and 8 tank(40 spg/450 tank)

[glacial steeple]

its a bit redeemed by indiv

still not rlly worth it

[pliant condor]

you can make around 16 of those divisions

[tepid umbra]

It's not bad or anything but mecha is just better

[pliant condor]

and ensuring that they are roughly fully equipped

[topaz yew]

okay thank you

[pliant condor]

so what you could do is to replace 8 spg in here with normal tank

and delete your divisions down to 16

[glacial steeple]

i think a good way to see strenght bars is 100% = fine, probably want stockpiles

[pliant condor]

this would ensure them are all fully equipped

[glacial steeple]

90% = bad because you either have to reinforce from stockpiles or have no stockpiles

[pliant condor]

then as you make more spg replace the medium tank with spg

[glacial steeple]

same for until 80% ish

[topaz yew]

like this?

[pliant condor]

again do the math, 40 * 16 = 640, so each time you have 640 spg surplus you can replace one tank with spg

[pliant condor]

yes

also add support aa

and support artillery if you don't have flame

[glacial steeple]

anything below 80% is unusable and just has to sit there, anything below 50% is best just consolidated/deleted 90% of the time

[topaz yew]

ive got both yeah, currently researching flame

[tepid umbra]

Uhh i think logistics is better, no?

[pliant condor]

two empty slots

[tepid umbra]

Yeah support aa and logistics

Oh

Omg

[topaz yew]

replace support artillery wwith flame when i get it?

[tepid umbra]

Im blind

💔

[glacial steeple]

why supp AA just do line

[pliant condor]

and hospital

[glacial steeple]

supp slots are valuable

[pliant condor]

ok it's not liek they have any support researched

[tepid umbra]

Fair, but i dont think they have any better supports to put

[topaz yew]

replace support artillery and aa with flame and hospoital?

[tepid umbra]

Also line is more expensive right

[glacial steeple]

not rlly

[pliant condor]

it's whatever

[glacial steeple]

a bit tho

[pliant condor]

just make sure it has AA

and go individual excellence for doctrine

[topaz yew]

hey im researched up to date with the ones im using lol

[pliant condor]

and the two spg ones

[tepid umbra]

Isn't signal more valuable than hospital for tanks

[pliant condor]

ok go get the ones you need lol

[glacial steeple]

"up to date" isnt real

[pliant condor]

especially flame

[glacial steeple]

you want to be ahead of time on the things you use usually

[tepid umbra]

Unless you max out the tree

[glacial steeple]

i do that sometimes

[pliant condor]

another thing is that truck is trash don't use them

[topaz yew]

rather than researching things like these?

[tepid umbra]

Sultanate of aussa infantry tree ❤️‍🩹

[pliant condor]

better replace it with regular inf

[glacial steeple]

you still research ahead on supersonics/missiles/nukes compared to ai always

[tepid umbra]

Still research that, but also other stuff

[pliant condor]

so you get individual excellence bonus immediately

[pliant condor]

those are all useless

if you are making tank

you probably don't have artillery 2

[tepid umbra]

Replace it with mecha if possible

[pliant condor]

which is problematic

[tepid umbra]

Literally just a guess

[topaz yew]

thats in the wworks but may take a while, just got assult engineer

[tepid umbra]

[topaz yew]

there is only so many slots

[pliant condor]

get howitzer 2 asap

[pliant condor]

most research has like zero impact on the game whatsoever

[tepid umbra]

You can get like 5

And researgh can take about 100-200 days

[topaz yew]

are they not useful for all the infantry?

[pliant condor]

defense is not useful for infantry

the gun tech are useful

[tepid umbra]

Don't they buff breakthrough on mot/mech too

Which means more on your tanks

[topaz yew]

just applied it now

[topaz yew]

i thought it was all about the little stat boosts

[pliant condor]

like 2 breakthrough

[tepid umbra]

Still a decent bit

[topaz yew]

yeah thats what ive got now

[pliant condor]

a little stat boost to your infantry is not meaningful(especially defense)

techs are not created equal

[tepid umbra]

Are you caught up in air research

[topaz yew]

oh i thought defence was good for infantry that were defending but i forgot combat in hoi 4 is silly

[pliant condor]

like gun 2? 50% more soft attack

gun 3? 33% more

better than all the passives combined

[glacial steeple]

support slots like this is good

[pliant condor]

howitzer 2? another 30% more soft

go after the important techs and ignore the rest

[topaz yew]

who knows, ive mostly givevn up on air since they keep dying and theres thousands of german planees, ive got the current small hulls and cannons

[tepid umbra]

Aren't rangers not that useful for tanks

[pliant condor]

that's also 100% wasted research

[glacial steeple]

terrain buff

[pliant condor]

if you want to make air, research all the stuff

[tepid umbra]

Do defense buffs buff breakthrough

[tepid umbra]

You do

100%

[topaz yew]

so is support artillery bad?

[tepid umbra]

Not bad persay

But not the top 5

[glacial steeple]

it can be good

it can give passive 20% soft or something to inf

[topaz yew]

this is my air research so far, i thought that small aircraft with cannons would be good for air superiority since ive seen that before

[topaz yew]

is that only good if youre attacking with infantry?

[glacial steeple]

all units attack

not just when attacking

[glacial steeple]

oh thats where your research went

that is pretty useless

[topaz yew]

air is useless?

[glacial steeple]

you dont even have survivability studies or heavy machine gun

[glacial steeple]

far from, but its useless if you cant dedicate like 3 slots on it from day 1

[topaz yew]

i thought cannons were better than machine guns for air superiority my bad

[glacial steeple]

which USSR cant

[topaz yew]

ah okay

[tepid umbra]

Hmgs are better than cannons

They do less dmg but are more efficient

[pliant condor]

on terrain stat? when you are attacking attack buff both attack and breakthrough

[pliant condor]

you are miissing those three techs

[topaz yew]

so when i restartthis run ill ignore air, make self propelled guns, rush the tank and artillery paths after construction? and dont concentrate my armour too much, im assuming that waiting behind the rivers is a good thing

[chrome river]

yo should I add tanks to my mountaineer div or not? late game already, 1946 with 246 mils and 243 civs

[pliant condor]

if you play correctly you don't needto wait behind river

[topaz yew]

do i need both cannons and machine guns?

[pliant condor]

you don't need cannon

[topaz yew]

oh you mean the other one

range improvvements?

[pliant condor]

you can frontline if you like

[pliant condor]

yes

range, survivability, hmg

[tepid umbra]

Attack buffs attack and breakthrough?

[topaz yew]

okay thanks

[tepid umbra]

Rangers dont provide attack iirc

[pliant condor]

yes

ranger give you attack in lots of terrains

[pliant condor]

also depending on how much industry you have but you want to have a lot more than 200 infantry

[topaz yew]

would i stil do the defence till they wear out thing?

[pliant condor]

you saw you had 200k gun in stockpile

?

that's 200 undeployed division

[umbral valve]

I can't play multiplayer

[pliant condor]

if you deploy them you can certainly frontline and hold

[tepid umbra]

200k in stockpile damn

[pliant condor]

you can attack into germany day 1 if you play correctly

but it's safer if you defend

[topaz yew]

thats a more recent thing since its been stagnent for a year and a half

[tepid umbra]

Make sure if you get 200 more divisions that you have the industry to support them

[tepid umbra]

Did you get that lessons of war thing

The focus

[tepid umbra]

How so

[topaz aurora]

is there maybe someone who can explain the game for me?

[pliant condor]

ah ok then it just means you need to put more factory on guns

[tepid umbra]

Wdym

[pliant condor]

if you have like 40 on gun you would get 400 divs out

[tepid umbra]

You can watch videos

[topaz aurora]

like how i play it.....

[topaz yew]

it seems like having more than 1 army group causes problems though, sometimes they leave gaps in the frontlinesbetween them and they come through, which is what happened with this supply hub

[topaz aurora]

i tried

[tepid umbra]

Play the tutorial

[tepid umbra]

Fym you tried

If you tried you'd know how to

[pliant condor]

put all your inf under one general

so you just have one frontline

[topaz aurora]

videos didnt help😭

[topaz yew]

got 30 rn, higher?

[tepid umbra]

Don't do this

Bad idea

[pliant condor]

i mean for the next game

now it's whatever, you already had enough

[glacial steeple]

its fine

[tepid umbra]

Literally just hold shift when making the army group frontline

[topaz yew]

oh does going over the limit not matter?

[glacial steeple]

if its holder inf you only miss trait stat

[tepid umbra]

Keeps general bonus and solves the problem

[tepid umbra]

But like why miss it

Free buffs

[umbral valve]

It just doesn't let me, I tried uninstalling and installing it, clearing the caché from the launcher but it just won't let me, it says "session timed out" and if I host no code shows up

[pliant condor]

you just don't get the general's bonus

[tepid umbra]

Huh

[glacial steeple]

many unit, frontlines bad and obstruct sight

[tepid umbra]

Do you have any mods?

[pliant condor]

it's not like there's much bonus anyways if you don't grind

[tepid umbra]

What

[topaz yew]

i thought like 20% supply consumtion would be very good

[glacial steeple]

frontlines are baddd

sometimes they wont even recognize a country exists

[tepid umbra]

Huh

Never seen that happen

[topaz yew]

this is vvery true i often cant see a thing

[pliant condor]

if you have 500 inf, you quickly realize that you don't even have enough general for all of them

and it becomes very messy

[glacial steeple]

hold shift while FM frontline

[pliant condor]

even with FM frontline

[glacial steeple]

yeah i know

500 inf is just kinda cooked

[pliant condor]

since you only get 120 under one

[glacial steeple]

just organize simple

[topaz yew]

fm frontline?

[tepid umbra]

So just have field marshalls for whoever you can support and put the rest of the guys on sumn else

Or start making stronger but more expensive divs

[tepid umbra]

Field marshal

[glacial steeple]

no you still get the main gen buffs afaik

just not traits and they cant grind

[tepid umbra]

I don't think so

[pliant condor]

technically the best solution

[glacial steeple]

and you get half FM stats

[topaz yew]

ohh i see, does that mean they all disperse across the frontline?

[pliant condor]

but why not just be lazy

if you are not battleplanning your inf it's not like their stat really matters that much

[tepid umbra]

I just don't make the extra divs 🥶

Even more lazy

[pliant condor]

having less div is a lot worse than not having a general

[glacial steeple]

tank only ussr is fun

[tepid umbra]

Normally, field marshal frontlines seperate sections to each general

By holding shift it has them all in one section

[tepid umbra]

But it's a lot simpler

[tepid umbra]

SpAA only ussr when?

[topaz yew]

does that mean if you wwant to do an attack with just a small section of your frontline you cant run it without the whole frontline attacking?

[pliant condor]

putting everything under one general is also very simple

[pliant condor]

yes you can't

but that's ok

if you want to battleplan you just attack with the whole frontline anyways

or you can draw two separate field marshal frontlines

one covering a part of the front

[tepid umbra]

You can with normal field marshal frontlines

[topaz yew]

do you need to battleplan to get the effects from planning bonus?

[pliant condor]

no

[glacial steeple]

go do it

[topaz yew]

ah okay thanks

[pliant condor]

it just decays slower

[tepid umbra]

By setting them up and having the generals do plans

[tepid umbra]

Maybe i will

I dont like ussr tho

I've been meaning to run spaa build tho

[tepid umbra]

Microing is better tho

[glacial steeple]

then idk do it as siam

peru

[topaz yew]

every time i try to follow a tutorial for this game many things go terribly wrong lmao

[topaz yew]

half the time my microing is worse than the battleplan tbh

[tepid umbra]

Do they even have the industry to support that

[glacial steeple]

no

[topaz yew]

maybe i shouldd play more sovviet china that was awesome

[tepid umbra]

I'll do siam spAA when the next dlc drops

[glacial steeple]

theyre gonna somehow nerf siam eco

[tepid umbra]

I'll do france spAA 🥶 🥶 🥶

[topaz aurora]

where do i find the tutorial

[tepid umbra]

30 malices

And you can choose to get rid of them or get a buff to sumn unimportant

[glacial steeple]

afghan starting modifiers

[tepid umbra]

There's a tutorial button iirc

[tepid umbra]

But the ingame tutorial kinda sucks

[tepid umbra]

Never played GoE ❤️‍🩹

[glacial steeple]

okay so

imagine if your mils had a max of 20% cap

and some other debuffs

[tepid umbra]

Only bad goe modifiers i know are agrarian society and india ones

[tepid umbra]

Damn

[glacial steeple]

its easy to get rid of but if youre on elite you actually have negative production cap

[tepid umbra]

Damn

[glacial steeple]

(thats bad)

it will actually use the mil 50% of the time

every other day it does a tick of production when at 0 or below cap

[tepid umbra]

Really

[tepid umbra]

Omg

Bruh

[glacial steeple]

its pretty bleak

[tepid umbra]

Afghanistan irregular only

[glacial steeple]

you should get GoE

[tepid umbra]

Should i do regular AA only soviets 🤔

[glacial steeple]

despite what people say, playing it is fun

[tepid umbra]

I will eventually

Imma get trial of allegiance and try that first

[glacial steeple]

rate my tank div

[tepid umbra]

Holy shit

Please say that's ai

3.6 😭 😭 😭 😭

[glacial steeple]

it was an ai div i will say that

[light knoll]

you might have too much atk

[tepid umbra]

Good

[glacial steeple]

2016 btw

[tepid umbra]

Holy shit

[glacial steeple]

tbf it was because of a mod that makes research slightly longer

[tepid umbra]

How do you even play for that long

[tepid umbra]

Oh

[glacial steeple]

usually by unpausing

[tepid umbra]

I don't do that

Im a real man and i instinctively pause 🥶

[glacial steeple]

my longest game was 2058 and i havent beat that in like 2 years

its over

[tepid umbra]

I spam space during mp gamed instinctively

[glacial steeple]

same i pause constantly and just play a save for like a month sometimes

[tepid umbra]

Holy shit

My game crashes in 1948

And i have a decent pc 😭

[glacial steeple]

sad...

[tepid umbra]

Sometimes it's gone to '51

But by then i've just won

[glacial steeple]

i just dont world conquest really

[tepid umbra]

I don't either but i've won all the interesting wars by then

So it's either annex puppets or crush minor nations

[light knoll]

crushing minors is so boring

[glacial steeple]

no like i will let majors just live

[floral shale]

anyone know how to fix this?

only just noticed this bug

[upbeat arrow]

how are two tiles getting this much independence?

[chrome river]

check their spirits, after they get to colony level they start getting "country" modifiers

[upbeat arrow]

just special forces

[austere roost]

that's their current autonomy

[remote bone]

How do i make the UK loose there subjects as the moghal empire in non hist?

I wanna invade burma without getting destroyed by navel invasions

[upbeat arrow]

the question is the same though, why are they getting so much so fast? +700?

[austere roost]

so that the numbers add up to 637

go one more day and you'll see how much it actually changes

[chrome river]

they're at supervised state level. this is how it looks at colony level:

[upbeat arrow]

still increasing with lend lease and suppress subjects, they came out of the peace conference this way, been trying to annex them but i cant lower their autonomy

[austere roost]

Oh cuz it's supervised state

That's how supervised states work

You can't stop them from being independent

[upbeat arrow]

so can i not annex them ever?

[austere roost]

Yeah they're programmed to be like that

[upbeat arrow]

cool,. so new start for me, all or nothing hegemon

[austere roost]

If you want normal puppets as a democracy you have to release them in your occupied territory menu

This is just punishment for you choosing alf landon

[upbeat arrow]

theres a difference between a peace conference puppet and a normal one?

[austere roost]

Only for democracies

[upbeat arrow]

great lol

so it really does mean restart or deal with a tiny blob of peru?

[austere roost]

That's your choice

[upbeat arrow]

restart it is, got all weekend lol

[austere roost]

Just remember this next time you play a democracy

[upbeat arrow]

good info

ty

[glacial steeple]

not true actually

for fascist it also changes, if you do from release it starts 1 level higher than a peacedeal puppet

[austere roost]

Yeah but they're not supervised states

They're like integrated puppets

[glacial steeple]

its a bit different

but the type of puppet still changes

well, not type, but level

[vital plinth]

Hey I asked earlier but I didn’t understand the reason and watched videos with even one big fleet and no small group didn’t have the supply red icons

But my fleets does both the one that’s 147 ships but also ones that are 4 heavry and 24 screens gets the supply red icon not sure what to do ?

I can’t assign one fleet with 2 groups 2 different ports not sure what I dim doing wrong

Also do ships need to go to port to “ resupply or refuel ? How does it work I don’t feel navry guides mentions these

[glacial steeple]

click the cog

[stark imp]

trying to kill stalin, what to do next?

[vital plinth]

I have change ports but I needed to change close to where I wanna invade but when I left my home sea I started getting the issue

[scenic nacelle]

bro

go south

and north

[carmine thunder]

In multiplayer for navy is it good to research up to date ships or is it an unspoken rule that nobody does it so not as much macro or?

[stark imp]

yeah i tried but they are too styrong there, the middle is weak

any advice?

[carmine thunder]

Your only 1 tile away from a northern encirclement surely thats possible

[stark imp]

this?

thanks it worked

[stark imp]

so do i hold the middle or retreat? i dont want to get cut off

[upbeat arrow]

so i notice supply is based on the connection to the capitol? so if thats true should i upgrade any RR im going to from the capitol out?

[carmine thunder]

If your doing only inf then try concentrate more there and push south

Otherwise middle wont have much supply

[stark imp]

thanks, i have inf and some tanks

ok, thanks

[stark imp]

also japan is justifiing against me should i worry? uk dead and us neutral btw

this?

[carmine thunder]

Yeha you might wanna build up supply there though

If uk is dead and you got their colonies in east asia then japan is going for those

Unless your low on resources especially rubber then you probably dont need to bother defending it

[stark imp]

i didnt have the points for uk colonies and couldnt be bothered to manage those

[split perch]

hello does prussian legacy infantry and artillery buffs apply to mechanized infantry and motorized artillery too?

[stark imp]

this is the full situation

[carmine thunder]

Maybe your allies have puppets or territory there?

[stark imp]

maybe?

oh haha

indialy?

italinida?

[split perch]

let the italians deal w it imo japanese only have siam to reach u if they havent landlocked china and their warlords

[carmine thunder]

😭

[stark imp]

yeah, just want to deal with russia, then clean up europe, then china?

[raven maple]

Hey is SHA good for the magont line in France as Germany

[split perch]

china can wait and balkans arent worth going for unless you havent done autarky achieved

[raven maple]

I spelt magont wrong I think

[split perch]

sha?

[raven maple]

Super heavy arty

[split perch]

dont think so

[stark imp]

there pushing me back what should i do?

[split perch]

use space marines

[sand ember]

lock in

[split perch]

or 9 infantry and 4 artillery

and anti air

[stark imp]

i just got this damn game idk what im doing

[sand ember]

spam out more infantry

wait

you're germany

ok still

[split perch]

tag sov>delete units

[raven maple]

I mean it’s the Soviet Union so try building supply hubs and rails to fix supply

[stark imp]

wheres the fun in that?

[stark imp]

i have started doing that

[split perch]

its not a supply issue

his templates must be bad

cuz ive never had supply issue using infantry

[raven maple]

That could be it too

[split perch]

okay brochacho

[raven maple]

That production

[split perch]

dont use light tanks use meds

[split perch]

use spgs instead of tanks and artillery together

[stark imp]

"spgs"?

[split perch]

theyre literally better but the same thing combined

[split perch]

research artillery modules

then researh med tank

[stark imp]

ok

but maybe later, i already have production

[split perch]

then add that gun to your tank and then make it "artillery" using the role tab

[split perch]

later equaling your next run

cuz youre DOOMED

[stark imp]

ok thanks

[split perch]

check dm

[stark imp]

ok

[raven maple]

Nice job getting uk and allies tho

[stark imp]

thanks, to be hones italy carried

[split perch]

.

[raven maple]

That’s weird

[stark imp]

they started the uk invasion, i finished it

[raven maple]

Italy is usually incompetent

[stark imp]

but am i actually in trouble here?

what attack plans could i do, what strategy?

[split perch]

attention to latvia

theyre encircled there

so finish that off

[stark imp]

ok

[split perch]

redraw the frontline after that and draw an offensive line and just wait it out of withdraw to poland

[raven maple]

And if you need to fall back a bit

[split perch]

or*

[raven maple]

Or

?

[split perch]

or retreat to poland

[raven maple]

Got it

[split perch]

let pro gamer dinglewanger to his job 😎

[stark imp]

really retreat all the way to poland?

[raven maple]

Yea it a good strat

[stark imp]

but ill have to take it all again 🙁

[raven maple]

It will make Soviet troops have no org

[split perch]

i mean with light tanks theres nothing we can do that much

[stark imp]

damn

[split perch]

oh btw

[stark imp]

im close to nukes is that the next step?

[split perch]

using tanks and artillery and infantry together means NOTHING

[trail reef]

do carrier fighter perfom worse than normal fighters?

[split perch]

cuz divisions move at the speed of the slowest battalion

[split perch]

unfortunately and unrealistically nuking them doesnt do anything

other than give supply debuffs

and hurt the enemy divisons

[stark imp]

oh, so just build up and attack later?

[split perch]

yup

[raven maple]

Yea like a rubber band pull back and then release

[split perch]

be careful though

cuz after soviets complete lessons of war

their debuffs will disappear

[stark imp]

a massive fallback line?

[split perch]

hmm nah

[stark imp]

how then?

[split perch]

make the frontline narrower

by abandoning your allies

so just protect polish border

[stark imp]

thanks for the help, im taking a break now

[tepid umbra]

whoah

[stark imp]

what?

[tepid umbra]

don't fall back tho

[tepid umbra]

weird pushing borders

[stark imp]

too late lol

[tepid umbra]

you went up to moscow but you didn't even take kiev

[tepid umbra]

💔

[stark imp]

idk what im doing

but practice makes perfect

there will be other games

[tepid umbra]

it's not bad or anything

just odd

my best guess is you have really good air

but only put it on those states

[stark imp]

yeah, i dont know that to do with it lol

[stark imp]

how did you know?? i only just reallised it now

i had like 5-6k cas