ask-for-help-here

[hollow linden]

Otherwise this whole neutrality thing doesn't work

[serene karma]

What???

I dont understand

[hollow linden]

What's preventing you?

You can still declare war

[serene karma]

What does the sentence mean

[hexed parcel]

It means japan in china and he in turkey

[hollow linden]

I think they're trying to say he can't get to Japan which is invading China

Which doesnt make sense

But oh well

And Why can't you justify

[rugged relic]

Hello, anyone know how to get rid of the box covering the user interface? (Playing darkest hour)

[hoary glen]

Ensure you play the correct game version for the mod, else report on mod page or fix yourself

[tribal skiff]

I wonder, is Large Unit Tactics better infantry sub-doctrine for Germany with Mobile Warfare, or should I take Mobile Infantry after all?

[hollow linden]

Are you doing tanks?

If yes, do mobile inf

And please don't do mw

Only ever go gbp or sfp

[tribal skiff]

Sure to tanks, and maybe self-prop artillery....

I went with mw because it's kinda default for Jerries.

[hoary glen]

The Issue is you start on it in Vanilla. I don't think in SP it's worth the effort to switch it.

[hollow linden]

Not worth 100 XP?

Alr whatever

[hoary glen]

I think saved mastery doesn't transfer to new Doctrine.

And you kinda want to design the Tanks first on MW. Else I think making one Tank Div is like 140 xp alone

[hollow linden]

It doesn't

[hollow linden]

Eh fair

[hoary glen]

At least if you want to be ready for 1939 it's kinda iffy xp wise. But I only recently played UK in Vanilla and as 3rd PP pick my army adivsor was kinda late. I wanted to grab relief of command first tho

[narrow grail]

How do you even play Iran? I got Turkey and Greece and waited until Allies and Soviet Union attacked me. Attack Allies first to kick em out of Middle East and Egypt?

[scenic nacelle]

ig

[oak jasper]

just sink the royal navy, the us navy, and defeat the red army. it's not that complicated smh. (I do not have any actual advice)

[glacial steeple]

iran is very weak

compared to the other GoE nations and to majors

the easy targets are iraq, saudi arabia

do you play hist or ahist?

[narrow grail]

hist only

Iraq has 3 phases
1 guaranteed by uk
2 turn fascist and join axis once uk declares war
3 british puppet
My new strategy is to rush Egypt right after I take Greece to cut british iraq from allies

axis ai is so disgusting now they can't win even '41 during barbarossa

[glacial steeple]

ah

hist REALLY sucks for iran

its like taking an already bad nation and then having to fight the uk and ussr at once

[neat widget]

okay yeah that's weird

[glacial steeple]

again the easy one to take out relatively is iraq

you could strike first on hist and take on the allies before ussr comes in as well

theyre easier then taking on the ussr

raj border can be held with minimal forces

its still hard though and definitely not good for a beginner

[narrow grail]

Yeah I had to find out about shared invasion the hard way

Immediately joined Axis and trusted caucasian front. One of the worst mistakes is to trust bots

And maybe I should go concentrated industry

[glacial steeple]

conc is always better basically

but like youre just in a bad spot and its worse with hist ai

economy bad

supply bad

no airforce

large fronts

if you sit and wait you will not win

[tepid umbra]

Didn't someone test the numbers and see that dispersed is better over the whole game

[versed rose]

dispersed gives more ic for the first few months because of starting cap

[glacial steeple]

its better for a year on a mil MAX

maybe a bit longer if you have like afghanistan start game level debuffs

if you have any sort of buff to your economy its less

[versed rose]

you might get more gun 3 sooner if you go dispersed, but why bother, everything else you're going to produce is going to be less

[tepid umbra]

Pretty sure it gives more cuz of retention and cap

[glacial steeple]

you get no cap

just prod base and retention

[tepid umbra]

Not cap

Base

Mb

[glacial steeple]

base is not that good

its good for first year tho

[versed rose]

again, base cap just means you start slightly ahead, but fall off later

[glacial steeple]

so its good for like 39 war if you wanna get more gun 2/3 out

in a short time

like on hist?

id do it as poland, netherlands, belgium, finland

finland already ehh

probably stuff like lux

equipping a small army better/faster

iran is already too late

thats like 1940-41 invasion

but you just need to scale

your domestic industry as iran doesnt let you scale at all in game

so you need to conquer nations if you want a chance against major powers, even ai

because youre so horribly outproduced

[night obsidian]

ah, whats the difference between marines and marine commandos?

[glacial steeple]

i guess you have the axis as counterbalance but meh

[night obsidian]

are commandos worth it?

[glacial steeple]

marine commandos are bad

[night obsidian]

ok ty

[glacial steeple]

but they let you extract from any coastal state

thats their gimmick

[vernal ermine]

how much breakthrough is enough?

[glacial steeple]

as much as the defenders attack you

[hoary glen]

take an 8 and lay it on the side. In SP you'll probably get away with around 300 tho.

[light knoll]

why would they make the iran coring system that bad 💔

[glacial steeple]

not rlly the issue

[light knoll]

meanwhile Iraq just does a focus and get a shitton of cores without even controlling them

[glacial steeple]

your stats are bad

your spawn ins are bad

[light knoll]

yeah but that also sucks

but like

[glacial steeple]

your eco us bad

[light knoll]

later game

[glacial steeple]

afghanistan gets stats no eco

iraq gets eco no stats

[half glade]

as commy china, how do i become faction leader

[glacial steeple]

raj gets stats and eco

iran gets none

[light knoll]

Afghanistan has elephants

[half glade]

cause i wanna annex china in the least aggressive way

[light knoll]

goated

[half glade]

cause we're at war with japan

[glacial steeple]

i like afghanistan and iraq a lot

its like, youre given enough resources and then need to figure it out

iran has the fastest missile rush in the game i guess?

iirc you get missile tech in like 37

which is useless

[half glade]

how do i become faction leader

of the chinese thingy

as commy

[amber creek]

is arms against tyranny free

[glacial steeple]

no

[narrow grail]

The only reason I've been playing Iran with dispersed industry over conc is due to ahh early war against turkey and I go to civil war for reviving zoroastrianism

[glacial steeple]

disp is okayish but just hurts more

as does civil war ofc

[marsh trench]

How do I win Italy as Ethiopia?

[vocal gust]

Can anyone help me with navy

[dusty sandal]

what's your question?

[vocal gust]

i just need help with it overall

[dusty sandal]

there are general explainations in pinned messages here but otherwise, if you want good, short tutorials, head to segl youtube channel

[vocal gust]

youtube tutorials dont help me

[dusty sandal]

I mean, segl ones are very straightforwards

no elongated explanation just the what is good, why and how it works

[vocal gust]

i just need someone that can go on vc and help

im playing countries and the new update made it harder to naval invade

[hoary glen]

Get most faction score and take it over with like 200 pp

[hoary glen]

It still works the same. You just need something on Patrol now and you have less invasions so you need to spread single invasions and assign more divs to them

[glacial steeple]

put ships in 1 fleet

take out subs

[vocal gust]

the thing is before i was still bad at navy all i did was just get all my ships and do strike force

[glacial steeple]

put it on patrol, always engage, never repair

[vocal gust]

i want to learn it

[glacial steeple]

naval invade

[vernal knoll]

how i can make move my tank while getting the battle plan bonus but dont being affected from the front line and move them where i want?

[glacial steeple]

yes thats how you navy still

its just you patrol now

[vocal gust]

oh damn

idk how to organise fleet

[glacial steeple]

and going through multiple sea zones sucks because every time you split up you lose battle stats

[vocal gust]

and any templates

[glacial steeple]

so youre more prone to die

[glacial steeple]

take out subs

[vocal gust]

i play as germany trying to do sea lion against uk english channel is just too much

and their other places

[vocal gust]

so no more subs?

[hoary glen]

All ships one Death Stack, subs separate as raiding fleet in small stacks. Either go on Patrol or just hold the Fleet at port. Split of some DDs for ASW if you must. The game is all about single engaments that decide the war.

[glacial steeple]

not in your surface fleet no

[vocal gust]

can we maybe go on vc and do sharescreen

[glacial steeple]

DDs for ASW are bad

idk why youd recommend it

[hoary glen]

not in current cs

they got buffed

[vocal gust]

can we do vc

[glacial steeple]

youre still wasting fuel for slowly catching subs?

instead of using navs

[dusty sandal]

it's good against AI

[vocal gust]

do i put subs patrol

or convoy raiding

[glacial steeple]

12/0 arty works against ai

[vocal gust]

are they are seperate fleet so only subs

[glacial steeple]

doesnt make me recommend it

[vocal gust]

sub fleet

[dusty sandal]

the new airplane catcher modules allows to fully detect coated cruiser subs in MP now

[glacial steeple]

just dont use the subs?

[vocal gust]

why

[glacial steeple]

theyre not useful for anything naval invasion

[vocal gust]

what about convoys

[hoary glen]

Convoy Raid

[vocal gust]

some guy on yt said they are good

[dusty sandal]

convoys are passive use. You don't really manage them

[glacial steeple]

good to have but dont win battles (usually)

[vocal gust]

no bro i meant subs for convoys

[glacial steeple]

they technically can win battles

but its very rare

[vocal gust]

wdym

subs?

[glacial steeple]

convoys

[vocal gust]

i meant subs for convoys

subs good for convoy raiding

[glacial steeple]

i wouldnt bother?

[dusty sandal]

the 0.1 light atk that kills DDs 💔

[glacial steeple]

its better to beat ai navy

[vocal gust]

ok so what am i doing with my navy

im playing germany

[glacial steeple]

they have 0.1 AA too

[vocal gust]

ok

[glacial steeple]

broken

[glacial steeple]

make these all game

[vocal gust]

im playing germany in 1936 what do i do with my navy

[dusty sandal]

that shreds airplanes to alarming rates too

[vocal gust]

how do i organise it

early game

[dusty sandal]

deathstack

[glacial steeple]

put all ships together and then you take the subs out

[vocal gust]

is that every ship except subs

[glacial steeple]

and then youre done

yoive organzied the navy

[hoary glen]

Navs also "waste" fuel and so do their Spotter planes. Just put them on Patrol, block the Sea zone and watch the magic happen. If you play as a mojor you can skip building Navs even currently bc you can use some of the starting DD garbage for ASW

[vocal gust]

so they dont need to be in a specific order just put them all in one fleet and done

except subs

[glacial steeple]

yes

my main major is like japan i sadly know navy

[vocal gust]

so i should do patrol now

[glacial steeple]

its sad because it really isnt that interesting

[vocal gust]

main patrol

[glacial steeple]

patrol gives supremacy

everything else is like

[vocal gust]

so do i just always use patrol for deathstack

[glacial steeple]

wow strike force gives a % boost

umazing

still means you somehow need the initial number yk

[vocal gust]

Ok so what is the best ships to use

[glacial steeple]

everything else is useless

[vocal gust]

just everything?

carriers battleships destroyers

[glacial steeple]

you use what you have and max out light attack on new ships

maybe carriers because theyre busted if you have the tech from game start

[vocal gust]

ok

if i just spam navy ships on a fleet will i destroy uk navy in the english channel

with good research

and templates

[austere roost]

if patrol giving naval power is bugged, 1000% of 0 is still 0

[glacial steeple]

no its strike force that does that

[austere roost]

yeah but if patrol is bugged, no amount of strike force will help

[glacial steeple]

and its why i dont really see the utility in doing anything but patrol besides saving MAX 75% of fuel

in return leaving your ships more vulnerable

[glacial steeple]

dont rlly need that

but yeah you can win

[austere roost]

that's also because ai navy is so stupid, setting everything to patrol works

if ai navy actually functions properly, getting a 5000% boost from strike force would matter

like I can set subs on patrol and have enough naval presence to invade

[sonic kite]

help my game is glitching and I cant launch the game without a javascript error or a normal error, ive tried reinstalling the game, verifying it on steam, reinstalling the launcher and even launching it only in vanilla and nothing worked

[sleek current]

does anyone know why my army loses one battle and decides to ignore the frontline they were just on

[hidden relic]

so, i have a problem together with another guy, i got the musketeer v1.17.3.0.3a95 with the checksum f303, a friend has checksum b24e, how do we fix this?

he lives in sweden and i live in the netherlands, though i doubt that is the problem.

he says his version is completely up to date, i have no mods installed, he has no mods installed, we checked our DLCs and he says he only has the DLCs that i have, so i have no idea what the problem is, anyone able to help?

[stark imp]

i have no idea what im doing how can i kill france?

[prisma compass]

help pls

[half glade]

go via the benelux

the maginot has level 10 forts

[stark imp]

where is that and how?

[half glade]

so its very difficult to get through

[half glade]

its netherlands/belgium/luxembourg

then you go in via the very north

[stark imp]

i know i tried but they are defending too well.

[half glade]

its your best bet

[stark imp]

as you can see i made some progress

[stark imp]

but how can i attack well?

are my divisions not good?

[half glade]

lets see your template

[stark imp]

ok

i only use these two

[half glade]

are you using your air force?

[stark imp]

yes

[half glade]

assign them over the benelux region

[stark imp]

ok

i didnt want to get bombed though

then do i start attacking? but there are so many french and us

[stark imp]

i attacked again and nothing happened

haha and now italy invaded paris

im so bad it makes me want to stop playing

what am i doing wrong?

[stark imp]

any advice?

[quartz jackal]

can you show me your logistic tab?

the book with a pencil symbol

[stark imp]

ok

[quartz jackal]

Jesus

[stark imp]

?

[quartz jackal]

Yeah haven't unit without equipment is whats screwing you

[stark imp]

what can i do?

[quartz jackal]

That -51k guns is a problem

show me your production line

[stark imp]

but i need tanks

[quartz jackal]

You got 2 options which is either wait until you make enough guns to supply your army or delete some units to relocate more guns to form fully functioning units.

Artillery is a high production cost item that usually requires more factories since every infantry battalion needs them.

[stark imp]

better?

[vital plinth]

How do I attack USA as Greece ?

[quartz jackal]

I would recommend just reducing the amount of infantry you have personally, whats with the 125 divisions on the first field marshal? Are all of those regular infantry battalions or garrison templates? What are they defending?

[dense haven]

can someone tell me how to group all my ships together without them splitting off i have automatic split off disabled

[stark imp]

just against the allies? i dont know what else to do with them?

[quartz jackal]

The area defense command is usually used to defend the coast line aganist naval invasions. Use a front line command and reduce how much infantry you have. I'm assuming most of the divisions you have are infantry which is a lot you might honestly beat russia's infantry count at this time.

[stark imp]

ok, about 1/3 are tank and motorised but what do i do with the ones i save?

[quartz jackal]

Okay first off stop recruiting, and the ones you save put on the frontline the equipment being returned from disbanded units will go to them.

[stark imp]

ok

but i think i will run out of space on the frontline, im only attacking the nether lands with like 130 divs?

[viscid abyss]

Select all groups and then press the button with the two arrows (next to the balance symbol)

[dense haven]

i kept merging in the video

[stark imp]

what do i do now?

[dense haven]

i tried the two arrows still doesnt work

[stark imp]

how are they still holding? the ai kills them and france in days

[viscid abyss]

No idea then I barely know anything about navy

[stark imp]

its a mess

[quartz jackal]

The problem is that france somehow got support from both America and Russia while you were at war with them I'm not sure how.

[unreal monolith]

any idea of the best way to kill the brits

[stark imp]

how? i know america joined but why?

i tried to stay historical

and im allied with russia

should i restart? try a smaller nation?

[quartz jackal]

That explains the Russian troops I'm seeing.

[stark imp]

i really want to get good at this game but what the f is going on

[quartz jackal]

I would keep playing this run to just get familiar to using frontline commands and learning how to properly manage resources to your units. The orange bar underneath your units is their supply and some of your infantry and tanks dont have a full bar.

Can you show me your active generals/units

[stark imp]

this?

[dense haven]

nvm it actually worked a second time ty

[stark imp]

the 2nd army grout is all atttacking the netherlands

yet no progress

[quartz jackal]

Is this picture with the attack order active?

[stark imp]

yes

why green? im losing

[quartz jackal]

It seems it isn't working properly where it is placed you might need to just manual select troops and right click the enemy troops.

Are the 50/72 units just garrison units?

[stark imp]

what is garrison? they are defending

surely i should try a smaller nation

its just such a mess

[stark imp]

i cant do that its too complicated

and they lose when i do that

[quartz jackal]

Yeah, I guess starting something new at this point would be the best. Historically Russia didn't ally with the Germans but agreed to split Poland. I'm assuming when you allied with Russia it pressured American into joining the allies early since usually Japan pulls them into the war.

[stark imp]

ok, what do you recommend

[north vine]

How can i kick italy form the axis and declare war on them?

[stark imp]

i enjoyed playing ireland and managed to take wales before germany capitulated and i lost

[quartz jackal]

When I started there was a basic tutorial for Italy since you start at War with Ethopia might be worthwhile but it somewhat requires navy to fully experience Italy. I've seen and been told Germany is a good starter nation since you get to decide when the war starts.

[stark imp]

i tried germany and look what happened

but i will try the tutorial again

thank you

[quartz jackal]

Yeah this game is trial and error. Play, lose, learn, start again.

[quartz jackal]

A tutorial on youtube might be beneficial, it was how I learned to play when I first started.

[stark imp]

is there a way to stop this happening where there are many troops obscuring the view? because the youtubers dont seem to have that

[stark imp]

they are all 1 hour+ long

still, do you recommend any specific tutorials

[quartz jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpWbSD6hEY

[stark imp]

thank you.

[quartz jackal]

I remember this one from when I started probably not the best to others but it was the easiest to digest for me.

[stark imp]

1 hour 40... i miss simple shooting games lol

[quartz jackal]

Its a long video but just do a Germany campaign while watching.

[quartz jackal]

Yeah its a lot but this game can be addicting and really fun when you learn to play properly.

[north vine]

why does it say 0% world tension when italy is one of the biggest countries rn

[vital plinth]

Guys I made a new template on a hull for my capital ship but I can’t see the option to refit how do I do that ?

[slate igloo]

I have a very weird supply problem, my capital isn't lnked to my capital so I have no supply

how does that make sense

also i'm a bit cooked but that's my problem ig

[tawny meadow]

does anyone know which dlc adds the eye tab thats next to the decisions tab?

cuz everyone i watch seems to have it but i cant find out which dlc its actually supposed to be

[north vine]

la resistance

[tawny meadow]

aight tyy

[glacial steeple]

that happens

its because another region has 2 supply hubs/points linked

so the game prioritizes that

after theyre unlinked it does not automatically go back

but it can mean you are unable to deploy units where you have supply and be unable to supply troops where the capital is

[slate igloo]

thanks fo the response

Do you know how to fix it?

[next cradle]

can someone help me out with the Battlecry achievement? I started as Guanxi and as you can see I have all the chinese and japanese cores except for the coastal cities, on the wiki it says it should fire without those but it doesnt?

[slate igloo]

I lost my game anyway

[glacial steeple]

lose the supply capital or link your capital to another hub/port

[glacial steeple]

that happens when you lose too much territory generally

[slate igloo]

lost a lot of territory indeed xd

[glacial steeple]

well

if you struggle to hold a region

why not puppet

[slate igloo]

wdym

[glacial steeple]

or dont go there in the first place but whatever

sinkiang is enough land so that holding the shanxi region alone caps you

[slate igloo]

i don't understand

[glacial steeple]

you annexed sinkiang

it then got occupied

moving your surrender progress

if you hadnt annexed it, losing that land woulsnt have moved it

[slate igloo]

oh so I free them before they get completely invaded?

[glacial steeple]

and theres situations like the baltic countries, finland

where you only have to hold like 2 tiles to not die

[vital plinth]

Guys I made a new template on a hull for my capital ship but I can’t see the option to refit how do I do that ?

[glacial steeple]

because 95% surrender progress is fine

when you take cores/expand it means you have to be able to sustain a larger area of defense

[vital plinth]

It just says “ create variant “ but I can’t refit it to already existing ship using the “ early cruiser

[glacial steeple]

annexing is fine if your army is capable of that

but if it isnt, i wouldnt recommend it

this doesnt go for non core land i will also say

unless you only have non core land

[slate igloo]

Well my army was fine, it's just I had the whole world fighting me because a faction member attacked someone

[glacial steeple]

refitting is always same hull to same hull

you can only edit the guns and stuff

[slate igloo]

Thanks for the tips

[glacial steeple]

if you lose then it typically isnt a sufficient army size :p

or too large but poor logistics/air

happens too

[slate igloo]

I'm just bad at the game

[glacial steeple]

nah dw most people are

[slate igloo]

I have 150h

[next cradle]

ill bump this in case anyone can help

[vital plinth]

And what is the hull ?

Is the hull the reassached ship ? Like the “ improved destroyer “ is that an hull ?

[glacial steeple]

yes

[neat widget]

Tibet has a Chinese core

[next cradle]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

just saw it

i was pulling my hair out lol

[neat widget]

Also Hong Kong and Macau count too

[glacial steeple]

they dont

it makes an exception for treaty ports

[neat widget]

I see

[next cradle]

is this a change with the new dlc?

[glacial steeple]

well, kind of

it used to be a tibetan core controlled and owned by KMT china

but in reality it was a region controlled by tibet

so now its a chinese core owned and controlled by tibet

[next cradle]

IT WORKED

@neat widget I WAS ABOUT TO RAGE QUIT THANK YOU SO MUCH

Lmao after managing to unify china and cap japan before 1942 i was aboutt to get defeated by tibet

[vital plinth]

Is 2 Carrier deck useless to use in a fleet ?

I couldn’t start earlier as Greece with making them so I will only have 2 ready in end of 1943

[grizzled surge]

How to invade Siberia as China?

[neat widget]

Nice

[neat widget]

Grab the supply hubs and walk

It isn't that different compared to other low-supply areas

[vital plinth]

@neat widget thoughts on this ?

But my 2 deck can only carry 60 naval bombers which seems very low tho lol

[neat widget]

are you using escort carriers?

[teal bobcat]

Lion

Those 60 naval bombers

Have a giant multiplied effect

You would rather have a carrier than like 600 naval bombers its a overall bonus for your fleet

[neat widget]

Yeah carrier naval bombers get bufffs

But it isn't that great I think

[teal bobcat]

It is

[neat widget]

But those 60 will be worth at least 300 I think

[teal bobcat]

Carriers are really good but if yiur gonna build them atleast have 2, 1 isnt worth building

[neat widget]

They have 2

[teal bobcat]

Wait they have 2 carriers with only 60 nav bombers total

💀

Need to see his design

[coral ingot]

2 questions, 1 what does combat width do, and 2, why are my tanks as germany always in deficit when going against the french and polanmmd

[sand ember]

1. it's basically how many guys can be fighting in a battle at once

very simple example, ignoring the fact that you can go a bit over the combat width in exchange for some penalties, if you have 100 divisions attacking a single tile, only like 5 of those divisions will actually be in the battle because that's all that can fit in the combat width, the remaining 95 sit in reserve and reinforce into the battle when one of the ones actually fighting loses organization.

2. you're not making enough tanks

[coral ingot]

no no My bad I didn't mean defict

I meant attrition

literally I'll have a good push with my tanks, and then they'll attrition out, and then just lose momentum

[sand ember]

if you have really bad supply and are pushing into bad terrain like mountains or snow

and using low reliability tanks

[coral ingot]

how do I fix the supply areas in poland?

it usually also attritions my troops bad

[sand ember]

make sure you motorized your supply and dont have like 20 divisions on a single tile

make sure you have enough trucks and trains

[coral ingot]

motorized my supply?

and I usually have like 3 tanks on a tile tops, and I make more than enough trains and trucks

[sand ember]

either do it on your field marshals/generals, or do it on the supply map mode for individual supply hubs

second one gives you more control and sometimes works a little better for some reason but requires more effort

[coral ingot]

OH I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD DO THAT

THANK YOU

I havent played hte game in like years

[sand ember]

lol np

[vital plinth]

Yes il have 2

I don’t know much about carriers

I plan to invade USA

Also should cruisers have tupedos or only destroyers ?

[coral ingot]

also if i can afford it, should I always do this?

[vital plinth]

@teal bobcat @neat widget ?

[sand ember]

yeah basically

you don't need that many trucks

and supply is really important

[neat widget]

cruisers should be light attack focused so no torpedoes, destroyers can have torpedoes

I tend to find you overstock on trucks anyways

[teal bobcat]

i could explain to you navy in 5 min over vc more info than any 40 min video you Can watch of youtubers spittin bull

@vital plinth

for navy

[vital plinth]

What about mines etc is it waste on destroyers or only on few destroyers have the normals style ?

[vital plinth]

Sure 👍

[teal bobcat]

mb though i said navy in message

[vital plinth]

It’s my first game so I only watched some short videos about navry

[teal bobcat]

like

ever?

first game

[vital plinth]

Yeah I did some small tries where I was up to 1940 but else nothing past 1940 except this one

[teal bobcat]

alright

dms

[neat widget]

mines are only useful in preventing naval invasions

well, they don't prevent it so much as act as a force multiplier, you still need troops on the groud

so they have use cases but are definitely not necessary

Mines don't sink ships in this game btw, well they do but it's like 2 convoys for every 1000 mines laid

[quartz jackal]

I suck at navy, recommended sub design for ~1940? Cruiser Sub worth?

[neat widget]

depends on purpose

[quartz jackal]

Doing my best to screw over The UK

[neat widget]

Could be useful

UK imports everything from abroad

Well, except steel

That said, might also be good just to build a surface navy and cross the channel immediately

[lament quail]

do i need to stay fascist to get ts achievement

it says "as fascist italy" in the achievement description, but fails to mention this in the reqs

also

if i am not fascist

is it better to puppet or annex

countries

[vital plinth]

Light attacks don’t matter on destroyers right ?

[coral ingot]

how am i supposed to get naval supremacy for operation sea lion? i jut put my ships on patrol and the brits just destroy all of my ships before i can do anything

[trail rapids]

hows this look?

[pliant condor]

it's not efficient

[oak jasper]

My understanding is not "it's immaterial", but rather "it's much more cost-effective to just include a few light cruisers if you need the light attack".

(Another silliness of how navy works in HOI 4 is that armor matters way more on light cruisers than heavy cruisers, because even the weakest heavy guns wildly overmatch cruiser armor IV)

[pliant condor]

destroy their navy

[hoary glen]

Paradrop

[hoary glen]

Cruiser sub with the rubber tiles is funny. Else just sub 2 or 3 with snorkels in sufficient numbers all through the Atlantic should do the trick.

[oak jasper]

Is there any reason to pick army planning expert (+10% planning speed) over army offense expert (+10% attack)? It'd seem to me that +10% attack would more than compensate for either slower planning, or initiaiting attacks before max planning is achieved.

[hoary glen]

Correct

[coral ingot]

how 😭

[hoary glen]

10 light attack Cruisers with armour 3 will do the job as long as you keep green air in the channel

[coral ingot]

and what is the order i give them?>

[oak jasper]

I'd imagine naval bombers on a mix of naval strike and port strike should help a lot in pushing the Royal Navy out of the CHannel long enough to get naval dominance in the channel.

[hoary glen]

Patrol, never repair, always engage

[coral ingot]

well that just killed aoo of my ships

all

not bad bro!

[hoary glen]

Git gud

I'm very sure you don't follow some of the steps.

[coral ingot]

I put them on never repair and always engage ands then patroled them

[hoary glen]

Also send a screenshot of the battle at start

You've build the light Cruisers, added them and had green air as well?

[coral ingot]

oh shit i thoughtr you meant destroyers

[pliant condor]

all about navy is having more ship than the enemy

if you have 30 light cruiser you would win against their navy

before you have enough fleet don't use them

[narrow grail]

why task from army doesn't get finished?

[coral ingot]

britians?

britian has like 30 capitals alone

[pliant condor]

capitals doesn't matter

you kill their screen

also ai split their navy so you won't face everything at once

[narrow grail]

I just motorized my supply once at the start of the game and switching it back to cavalry logistic doesn't help hello you have this game for 10 years

[pliant condor]

also glitches for me

spend pp on the army ig

[narrow grail]

I just need trucks

But this shit is bugged to oblivion and thinks that I have basically 0

[pliant condor]

ik

just let it fail and promote the army with pp in your focus tree

[narrow grail]

I don't care about army influence for now

[neat widget]

Now kill the Soviets

[narrow grail]

At earlier Japan games I got that task and it would finish right on start of war against China but no, code is cracked and doesn't let me to complete it, supply buffs would've been very nice in the middle of China

[coral ingot]

okay i just killed france again, this is what i have.

[leaden jay]

why cant i go patrol that part of the sea?

[lament quail]

is it possible to get Paul I (Collaborator King) as Fascist Devolutionist Yugoslavia

[raven snow]

are heavy tanks at all useful

[subtle thorn]

soviet was 1% away from cap and french unit got stalingrad

i didnt get the not much fun in stalingrad achivment...

[tepid umbra]

Yes

They're better than meds, but against ai, which crumbles easily no matter what, they're kinda overkill

So mediums, or even maybe lights are better

[uneven bay]

I only get manpower while in war

why is this

it happens on every game

there should be a percentage shown saying (... is mobilizing per day) or something

and it only appears in wars

[glacial steeple]

it does say that if you hover over manpower

[uneven bay]

yeah it doesnt

[glacial steeple]

its probably because you only start conscripting more when at war

but thats because you dont change law/doctrine/modifiers

it can always mobilize

[uneven bay]

only manpower i get is that 312 recruitable

[glacial steeple]

yes youve already recruited the 1.5% of your law

[tepid umbra]

Change conscript laws

[uneven bay]

really?

[tepid umbra]

If you want more manpower

Or use the desperate defense doctrine

Or do focuses that give more manpower

Or irregular doctrine (not reccommended)

[uneven bay]

great then

i thought it was cus a bug ty

[opaque hearth]

I’m wondering which is better for Germany as a single player 4 year plan or left side

[tepid umbra]

4 year plan

[humble oriole]

which one do i use for fighters and cas

[sweet summit]

Basic small

Basic carrier is to put on carrier boats

[leaden jay]

How much intel do I need to see the enemies division amount while on the front lines. Like the enemy divisions are questionmarks right now

[austere roost]

left is better than 4 year plan, that's been known since the dlc came out

[humble oriole]

how do i unlock the last row

[austere roost]

by completing a subdoctrine

if you go to your mil doctrine and hover over the completion rewards, it will tell you which subdoctrine it is

[native shale]

i wanna know this too

[humble oriole]

after you master a sub doctrine, can you change it?

@austere roost

[austere roost]

yeah but you'll give up on your progress

[neat widget]

two subdoctirnes to be precise

and yeah you can change that

although individual excellence is fine to last the whole game

[sweet summit]

FAHH

As afgahnistan, i'm assuming the milita sucks

Should i drop the arty or just switch to 18w inf atp

[indigo sapphire]

hello yalls

[neat widget]

Yeah you should probably switch to 18w inf

[indigo sapphire]

how many CVs should i build as us or uk

[neat widget]

0

You have plenty

You can build more if you want

[indigo sapphire]

what about germany

[sweet summit]

Uh forgot to send the pic

Oh wow yeah that sucks

FAH

[light dune]

depends can you and do you want to conquest the required territorys if so 4 year plan else the other way

[light dune]

there no single answer

its perferance

[raw magnet]

any suggestions on improving the calvary template?

[austere roost]

are you trying to play a cav playthrough?

because if not the only use for cav is for fighting resistance and at that point just remove the support companies and make it the occupation force

[raw magnet]

YES

[austere roost]

cav is just cheaper, faster inf

also much weaker

so just build your template for infs but replace them with cav

ok what I mean by weaker is, as time progresses, your tech will buff inf more than cav and it's much easier to find generals/general staff with inf bonuses

in 1936 the difference isn't that big

[raw magnet]

I have seen videos people using just only calvary as their main infantry

[austere roost]

yeah as i said, cav is just a worse inf

[raw magnet]

I tried inf and I was stuck in a stalemate in africa

[austere roost]

most likely supply

[raw magnet]

italy doesn't have any motorization supply templates. can you suggest me one to make?

[tepid umbra]

isn't it different

like you have to finish one tree

and depending on the grand doctrine you pick

that's the subdoctrine tree you have to do

so like inf for gbp and mass assault

art for spf

and tanks for mobile warfare

[hidden monolith]

Guys I did it I capitulated Poland LETS GOOO

Now it’s time for the world to be “under new management”

[tepid umbra]

you capped poland 😭

[verbal arrow]

motorisation supply templates?

[raw magnet]

you know, the guys that bring supplies to the front lines? they use those things that have 4 wheels on to get around.

[tepid umbra]

but you don't need a template

[light dune]

oh the button is a horse then a trunk and then 3 trunks click that for moterisation (no templates i think) unless you talking about moterised infantry i believe you need a tech to make it worth

[tepid umbra]

tono

get yo ass back in the server

[analog maple]

is the civilwar worth it too switch a leader?

[neat widget]

Yeah probably

[analog maple]

ok thx

[tepid umbra]

iirc the civil war is pretty easy

[analog maple]

yea but it slice ur army in half

[tepid umbra]

but as the soviets you can get it back very quickly

[neat widget]

All true

[light dune]

um btw is this a alright template for a tank divison in 1942 vanilla no dlc

[tepid umbra]

36 width

also the org is kinda low

and when against ai, medium tanks with high soft attack are best

[light dune]

true

[tepid umbra]

maybe even light tanks now

but I think that's with dlc

the light tanks

[tepid umbra]

also you need more supports

[light dune]

for urban width is 80 or 40

[light dune]

as to why

[tepid umbra]

but urban is an uncommon place

[tepid umbra]

supports give really good buffs

[light dune]

so are tanks

[light dune]

depends

[tepid umbra]

I mean support companies

[tepid umbra]

no not really

it doesn't depend

support companies are good if you have an alr pricy div

like tanks

[light dune]

it's a niche div

[tepid umbra]

tanks aren't THAT niche

they're like 1/5th of your army

I think

1/6th maybe

idk

[light dune]

yes but these are for urban only

have many designs for various terrain

for capturing territory

non combat

capturing

for garrison

cheap non building

[indigo sapphire]

should i make a tank template full of only modern/mbt tanks

[indigo sapphire]

@neat widget

[neat widget]

are you going to have like 1 mech/amtrac in there again or no

[indigo sapphire]

yes

should i also make other tank templates for light medium heavy and amtracs amtanks

[neat widget]

You should have around equal amounts of mech and tank in your divisions

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[indigo sapphire]

@neat widget

are there any other meta templates

[neat widget]

try like 9-10 amtracs 9 spgs with logistics, hospitals, medium flame tank, assault engineers, and light tank recon/ranger recon

that's the typical template anyways

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx

are assault guns good aswell? @neat widget

[neat widget]

assault guns don't exist in base game

[indigo sapphire]

alr

btw should i use ALL other vanilla and dlc units

[inner sparrow]

still medium tanks, meidum spgs are best vs ai

[indigo sapphire]

@neat widget

[inner sparrow]

no its ass

[neat widget]

I mean use the units that you need and not much more i'd say

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx liv

i do like making historical and Real life templates

from infantry rifle etc

[neat widget]

fair

historical templates shouldn't be that much worse if we're talking about infantry, with tanks it's questionable tbh

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[neat widget]

don't overcomplicate it

[indigo sapphire]

dw i wont

i wish hoi4 had vanilla historical and real life units and templates in base game

@neat widget

[neat widget]

True

Typically they do have a table of equipment for divisions though

Which you can find online

[indigo sapphire]

alr

thx

[neat widget]

Like here's a US infantry division in 1945

[indigo sapphire]

i do use the military org wiki page

[coarse finch]

There's also the historical tank templates in the tank designer. But they're pretty bad

[indigo sapphire]

so how do i win as Estonia

[neat widget]

Yeah the historical tank templates won't get you anywhere

[indigo sapphire]

im a Estonia player Mostly

[coarse finch]

Infantry spam. You won't be able to afford much else

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx kat

how much inf divs should i spam out?

like against USSR?

@coarse finch

[indigo sapphire]

@neat widget

[neat widget]

I mean, as many as needed to hold the lines

[indigo sapphire]

alr gotcha thx liv

i do wanna do atleast first 24 to 48 divs

then more

until i have WAY more divs then USSR

ill try to get 100 and or more divs

@neat widget

[neat widget]

More divs than USSR as Estonia?

Good luck on that

[indigo sapphire]

yes

alr thx

tbh i do use console commands

in SP

@neat widget

btw should i build a LOT of fleet escort and all other vanilla base game carriers?

should i also build ALL other ships?

@neat widget

[quartz jackal]

Does Autarky Achieved resources in non modded game make up of puppet resources plus German resources?

[foggy nest]

anyone know how to get rid of stupid faction theatre stuff? AI have filled out theatres that I just don't need and I can't seem to find out how to get rid of them

[glacial steeple]

what is up ask for helpers

[glacial steeple]

cant you like ignore those

[foggy nest]

You can but I wanna make sure that my good allies are actually going where necessary rather than being put on a front that's already been decided

[glacial steeple]

the vanilla ai is not that good

[foggy nest]

it's mainly just to pad the front

[glacial steeple]

let them do their thing, theyre not gonna win wats for you

[indigo sapphire]

hello casey im good

how good is USA/us In hoi4

[glacial steeple]

its a bit boring but probably can be fun

[indigo sapphire]

what

you replied to the wrong message from me Casey XD

@glacial steeple

[true gazelle]

Hi y'all, wondering if i can get some info from someone.. I am playing as Finland (i own most dlc's minus the bospherus one and the newest one i think?) now I know this is a real first world problem/nit pick, but why can I not use a Vickers 6 tonne/ t26 or similar vivkers type tank 3d model as Finland? I only have 3 options for light tank 3D models. is this a glitch?

[indigo sapphire]

idk

[glacial steeple]

ah its whatever

[indigo sapphire]

what

[glacial steeple]

you get the type B on basic lights, it possibly requires that specific chassis

did you know when you research interwars finland is the only country who gets a tank design for researching without doing a focus?

if you click outdated it shows the FT Mod.31 if i got that name right

[true gazelle]

oh ok, I cant seem to see it as an option, thanks for the reply!

[indigo sapphire]

ey hey casey

how should i do as USA

like how do i win

[glacial steeple]

idk its like my least played major

you just make air

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[glacial steeple]

and marines

[indigo sapphire]

alr

what bout navy

should i like build ALL ships

as USA?

@glacial steeple

[glacial steeple]

uuhh do what you want but you start with enough ships to just win

[indigo sapphire]

alr

thx

i dont play the meta way

i play for flavor and fun

[night obsidian]

im doing the same

[indigo sapphire]

i like to LARP

wdym

[night obsidian]

playing as US for the fun not meta

[indigo sapphire]

oh nice

same

[night obsidian]

i refit most of the ships though, and im building a bunch more

and making all the planes

[indigo sapphire]

alr

nice

[night obsidian]

gotta have the p38s and the b25 and b27s

[indigo sapphire]

the next time i play usa us ill build between 78 to 87 CVs and ALL other ships

and many more

so i can fight a 2 front war

ill fight both germany and japan at the same time

with my massive army airforce and navy

i will destroy all of em

germany italy and japan

and their minor axis allies

ill deal with axis first and then comintern

@night obsidian

[night obsidian]

yeah im hoping to do the same

[indigo sapphire]

alr nice

i will build and order another 42 to 100 CVs

as USA

and 42 to 100 other ships

@night obsidian

[true gazelle]

just went in and had a look at England, and looks like they don't get a Vickers 3D model either, is anyone able to confirm if this is just a me problem? so i can rule that out

[indigo sapphire]

i will build another 78 to 87 new Reserve ships

and a lot of other CVs

and etc

until i outnumber the axis and comintern

[night obsidian]

are torpedo cruisers worth it?

[indigo sapphire]

imo yea

[flint cypress]

Hello, can you help find the best division in max speed without using tanks as Germany?

[indigo sapphire]

i will build modern carriers modern battleships and the new fleet and escort carriers as Usa aswell

and the new sub types

@night obsidian

and the new jet fighters

[night obsidian]

im building a super heavy lol, just for fun

[glacial steeple]

peak mentioned?

[indigo sapphire]

super heavy what

i will also research and build Jet fighters cas and bombers

@night obsidian

[flint cypress]

Thx!
But is there anything for Mot/Mech?

[glacial steeple]

slow

motorized is 12kmh base

AC build does require final AC tech tho

or its bad

[flint cypress]

Yeah well, I have it on 14.5 km/h atm

I did the focuses

[glacial steeple]

so like half the speed of AC 3

[flint cypress]

Armored Car 3 is 1940/41 I believe?

[glacial steeple]

something like that

just research ahead of time the times dont rlly matter

just means you get a bit of penalty

[flint cypress]

Yeah did that with artillery for my Mot division

I won the north african, and even pushed france and britain from Egypt, Tunis, Algeria, Morroco, Syria, Lebenon, Palestine, and Jordan

[indigo sapphire]

@glacial steeple ey casey should i research ALL techs and equipments as estonia

and then build ALL and produce all

i will annex the baltics finland and sweden

[flint cypress]

Btw, does this speed require any focuses like Mot/Mech or

[glacial steeple]

no

[indigo sapphire]

casey answer above

[solar kayak]

Can anyone please explain how i am losing this battle?? it dosnt make any sense to me

[median jackal]

No matter what I do, all of my units lack organization I don't understand anything at this game 😭

[flint cypress]

Maybe bc of logistics

[median jackal]

I built railways everywhere near my frontline

[solar kayak]

i have 300 def against 17 attack and still get cooked

with lvl 7 forts

[median jackal]

Like, even at the lowest difficulty, playing Italy, I can't defeat Greece despite a massive army I don't get it

They all have that yellow exclamation point and don'r advance

I tried to build division with ≈50 org

[grand iris]

wtf you tryna build

[flint cypress]

💀

[median jackal]

Oh

[flint cypress]

That's quite impressive but it doesn't matter as long as your army is weak

I believe

[grand iris]

just show the templates you using

[glacial steeple]

no stats

[median jackal]

Wait lemme show you

[grand iris]

and do you have any air

[glacial steeple]

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68

[glacial steeple]

you just dont understand units

more isnt always better, and org is like "morale"

watch the combat vid :D

[median jackal]

I mean there is a lot of things I don't understand tbh hahahah

[grand iris]

for basic inf just use 9 block with engineers and stuff

and maybe support aa and support arty if you can afford it

[flint cypress]

I watched that, he's nice

[solar kayak]

this is my div

[grand iris]

take line arty off

[glacial steeple]

i use this

[grand iris]

you dont need it for inf thats holding a line

Do you have any tanks/air??

[solar kayak]

i suppose but i dont think thats the reason my defense was so bad

[flint cypress]

New info for me tbh

[solar kayak]

i started making tank destroyers but it was too late

[glacial steeple]

its detrimental even

[solar kayak]

couldnt get them out in time

[glacial steeple]

no hp on artillery means you lose more stuff per hp lost

[grand iris]

take inf off

from tanks

only use motorized/mech

[median jackal]

(please don't laugh if it's ridiculous I'm just starting hahaha)

[glacial steeple]

@median jackal 5 minutes of watching this will answer half your questions

[grand iris]

just watch some youtube tutorials man

these are horrible

[median jackal]

Okay I guess I know where was the problem lmao

[median jackal]

Okay thx!

[median jackal]

(historically accurate Italy tho)

[grand iris]

yea

but if you aint beating ai in easiest difficulty ur doing something wrong

and please use mountaneers in mountains

Know how terrain affects your combat and different units

[median jackal]

Yeah I was pretty sure everything I was doing was wrong on the army plan

[flint cypress]

By this, I won the north african campaign, and even pushed france and britain from Egypt, Tunis, Algeria, Morroco, Syria, Lebenon, Palestine, and Jordan

[glacial steeple]

nah its just not understanding logistics

difficulties dont help

[flint cypress]

But you will take sometime for producing Trucks, weapons, artillery, armoured Support, and AA

Also support equipment ofc

[grand iris]

Yep

[median jackal]

About "defending units"

Is that units you use on all of your coastlines in general, or units you will use on a frontline to support an attack?

[indigo sapphire]

which ships should i research build and produce as us usa

[inner sparrow]

its a shit division but ai is so bad in the game that u will win with this anyways

u can win with 90% of division designs if u do all other things right

against ai

[glacial steeple]

you use them on coasts and on frontlines to defend

while making dedicated offensive units

[glacial steeple]

1/0 inf can prob work with enough air

[flint cypress]

I will use your max speed AC3 division later, it's strong enought to push, right?

[glacial steeple]

uhh if you have good modifiers

its the best vs ai if youre like decent/good at the game

[left mica]

line arty

take them out of your div

keep arty company though

[cold garnet]

Yeah your attack value is low

You can’t really damage their tanks

Excess def over enemy atk has zero effect

So practically speaking you had only 50% more attack than they do, but their tanks are not fully pierced and tanks have hardness so they take less soft attack damage

With these factors combined you would likely run out of org and therefore forced to retreat before they do

[indigo sapphire]

are supersonic and normal jets good to use?

and ALL other jet techs?

[median jackal]

Okay I get how divisions work

But of what number of divisions is a good army made of?

[versed rose]

enough to fill the combat width of the front(s) you are expected to fight

[glacial steeple]

from the red up top i think theyre germany..?

and from the attacks being only motorized/tanks

ai doesnt typically manage that

[fathom glen]

can anyone teach me how to play with navy

[glacial steeple]

nvm it says defense

i cant read

[fierce idol]

subs intercept, everything else patrols?

[glacial steeple]

idk 4-5 per tile max for a new player

[cold bloom]

Depends who you're fighting, 72 gets a lot done

[glacial steeple]

you can eventually go up to like 10 maybe

assuming you have supply and logistics, and enough units/eco/manpower

[left mica]

hover your mouse over the numbers

it will tell you why

seems like you messed something up and cz is fighting you

cz has a fortress line in the sudetenland region and you're attacking into one of those tiles

forts give a percentage malus to the attacking side's stats

so thats why your numbers are so low

[glacial steeple]

no hes cz

2 units

[left mica]

ohh

ok yeah you need more divs

and try to not get reinforce memed

[wintry oxide]

hey, is there a way to make naval invasion faster than 30 days?

i tried using just 1 div and it still takes 30 day

also how do I check naval invasion division limit?

[hollow linden]

Check navy tab in the top right corner

[hollow linden]

Modifiers

Otherwise no

[wintry oxide]

thank you

[flint cypress]

Not really, still trying to learn

[karmic terrace]

For my space marines should I use heavy tanks?

[flint cypress]

Any type of tank is good

[karmic terrace]

How?

[flint cypress]

Speed doesn't matter, Space Marines depend on armour

[karmic terrace]

Yes but lights tanks have terrible armour?

[flint cypress]

Yes, but you should increase your armor no matter what

Give me a sec

https://youtube.com/shorts/Gq3AP4lEGTY?si=KKAfyoadz3-3J8Yi

https://youtu.be/wW71d39TtpE?si=nxaD__Pd3h-oRAT5

Here @karmic terrace

Any kind of tank is good, but it's preferred to be medium

[indigo sapphire]

what ships should i build and produce as usa

[flint cypress]

Ahh

@glacial steeple

[hoary glen]

Vs AI you only need convoys. Your Navy can beat any other. If you'd like to you can go ahead and build whatever to try stuff out to learn how it works, what's good and what isn't.

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx patrick

[hoary glen]

Try around with small fleets bc the AI also has them. If all fails build a big stack with all except subs and you will win any battle

[indigo sapphire]

alr

should i build a lot of Subs and carriers

as usa

[hoary glen]

Like I said, what you should build are convoys. But you can build other stuff if you like it, it's just unnecessary

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[hoary glen]

They are terrible bc they have no range.

[night obsidian]

the US focus tree is really... boring

[indigo sapphire]

alr

alr

should i fight both the germans and japs

on both fronts

and how many inf and marine divs should i recruit

[glacial steeple]

huh

[scenic nacelle]

U should look how old it is

[night obsidian]

yeah I know I get it. Probably the "intro" faction

[glacial steeple]

wdym