ask-for-help-here

[neat widget]

Same

[glacial steeple]

but lately i havent played that long so idk

maybe the US can get it in like the 80s

[neat widget]

Actually, I haven't seen the AI get quite a few special projects which is odd

[glacial steeple]

maybe the 70s? i doubt any earlier

[neat widget]

The Allies are taking Berlin in mid-1943?

[analog maple]

no 1944-1945 im just rly slow at the counterinvasion

[neat widget]

Are you being held up in the air (if you're doing air?)

[analog maple]

im doing air. mostly just get green air for the start then i lose it

[neat widget]

I see

I assume you're doing 3 x 4hmg fighters and red air cas?

Also how large is your economy

[vital plinth]

In trying to take a port from Britain in Spain it would block my whole home sea from outsiders , but I can’t succeed with a naval invasion I put a big fleet to support naval invasion what am I doing wrong ?

[analog maple]

sorry what?

[neat widget]

do you have naval supremacy?

[light knoll]

put the fleet on patrol

[neat widget]

are they launching?

[light knoll]

not naval invasion support

[neat widget]

should say yellow air cas (which should be like 2 x bomb lock + 1 heavy bomb with survivability and range modules)

[analog maple]

just invade throu spain they arent very strong. you can also just demand that they become ur puppet with the focus

[neat widget]

But yeah what do your plane designs look like and how much do you have

[vital plinth]

Not fully yet

[neat widget]

But you can launch the invasion I'm assuming

[vital plinth]

The one fleet with 30 ships and 2 capital is assigned naval invasion support

[vital plinth]

First time yeah when war started I used 6 troops to naval invade

Or is that too little and the reason ?

[civic hare]

I wanted to make it so that I could select all and finland gets kola but then I did this by accident

nvm Ig I cant

[neat widget]

I see, are you naval invading like Gibraltar? also what's your template

[neat widget]

You're building that into the 1940s?

[analog maple]

yea

[neat widget]

The fighter is a okay plane for like 1936, but it gets rapidly outclassed with all of the 1939 modules

So yeah that's a problem

Compare the fighter above to a normal 1940 fighter and you'll see what difference that makes

[neat widget]

also do force attack with those units so that they don't bounce

Also here's the yellow air cas design

still better, but the difference isn't that large

[night obsidian]

I like having smaller line divisions for supply reasons per tile

[neat widget]

I mean, it'd be the same?

[night obsidian]

dont larger width/manpower divisions suck up more supply?

I have like a 12 stack over 3-4 tiles and instantly run out, i have smaller divisions and they are fine

especially for bottlenecks

question, for Air, is cannon even worth it? I've seen most people say just use HMG? Do cannons not work better against bomber?

or i guess it doesnt matter because once you get air supremacy the bomber part takes care of itself?

[neat widget]

Yeah but to have the same effect as larger divisions you need more smaller divisions

You just end up filling the same combat width

[glacial steeple]

no, hoi4doesnt resemble real life

[night obsidian]

again i only use those for defense or patrol duty

[glacial steeple]

you just have cost/cost efficiency

[night obsidian]

my main devisions for operations are always large width

[glacial steeple]

and raw attack stat

[night obsidian]

oh i wouldnt use a small div for attack, just to sit there while i'm focusing elsewhere. Frees up manpower for me too.

[night obsidian]

do you have a screen of a main division you use?

[glacial steeple]

what for

like it depends on which country i playbut holder units are pretty standard

[night obsidian]

nvm i found pins, sorry

[indigo crane]

First run through with Germany on Historical mode, Trying to get Anschluss national focus done. I feel like im missing something, 50k infantry equipment seems like a lot(maybe im looking at wrong number) but june 25 1937 and only at 7.9k infant equipment. Do I just need to build more mil factories?

[night obsidian]

I put like 10-15 mils on equipment and at least 5 on support and build like 70 divisions

but smaller, like 9 inf divisions with no arty

got it by 1937

[indigo crane]

Maybe ill make some cheap divisions with no arty as you said - that makes sense. Thank you!

[night obsidian]

yeah they recommend here no arty. I basically bulk made divisions with no arty, then changed over the ones I wanted to go offense with (say 24-48 total) but the rest stayed just defense. Even if you choose to use arty, I don't think they give you as much a benefit on defence

and its a waste of resources for people just holding a border

[indigo crane]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense

only 10 hours into game - been struggling lmao thanks for info

[night obsidian]

im like 150 now, which is still noob. I only got the game this year lol

[indigo crane]

Yeah.. thats going to be me once i get all this figured out. Sad i have 10 hours into this and have yet to fight anything lol

[night obsidian]

for me id put 15 hours into a playthrough, not like it in 1941, start again lol

I recommend doing a canada run start to finish (its sort of quick because you just fast forward most of it) to see what the basic mechanics are, you just follow USA around in europe

hold up, I had someone earlier say to run everything as SPG, then this youtuber says not to... im confused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH9H3QICRY8

which was pinned...

[errant chasm]

That guide is outdated. SPGs are now better than normal howi tanks

[night obsidian]

thank you!

[upbeat arrow]

im usa in sp ahistoric, should i do taft or coughlin first since im going america first-war powers, no silver shirts?

[lament quail]

is this saveable

[night obsidian]

id be cooked

[lament quail]

so was i

so which of the paths is better

as nonaligned militarist latvia

[tepid umbra]

Prolly B

[desert jewel]

i decided to try a strat for italy where i immediately naval invade gibraltar after joining the war, but when i try it, the UK magically has a billion ships in the entire med, and i cant get enough dominance to even launch. is it even worth trying?

[tepid umbra]

It can be possible

If you build good ships from the start

[desert jewel]

i mainly spammed destroyers, but im guessing those arent enough?

[tepid umbra]

Spam light cruisers

[desert jewel]

do i just load up on torpedo tubes?

[glacial steeple]

its not about whats in stockpiles

[tepid umbra]

No

[glacial steeple]

its about how much you have deployed

army tab top right next to speed

[tepid umbra]

Check pins and scroll down to ship designs (mtg)

[upbeat arrow]

what should i do? what will happen if i dont?

[glacial steeple]

old vid

[glacial steeple]

you lost the only tile that matters (riga) but maybe

[lament quail]

I also lost the war

Latvia game 4 hathst begun

[glacial steeple]

sun shines equally i think unless you get more fascist buffs

[lament quail]

more fascist buffs?

[glacial steeple]

just get the whole tree?

[lament quail]

but im playing nonaligned

[glacial steeple]

ive played latvia a couple of times it didnt feel that hard

well then you choose to be worse off

[lament quail]

maybe

ig i just keep resetting until I get a soviet union that doesnt take the baltics

before i can

[glacial steeple]

my last latvia run i wasnt producing equipment

[lament quail]

or a germany that doesnt take the baltics before i can

or a poland that doesnt take the baltics before i can

[glacial steeple]

rush down whatever focus you get to unite the baltics

[lament quail]

should we tell him

[glacial steeple]

whether thats baltic entente or the other stuff

if you cant, thats fine

build for it

[upbeat arrow]

guns for the soviets? yay or nae?

[glacial steeple]

just roach on your capital and the tile next to it (vp)

[glacial steeple]

are they good guns?

[upbeat arrow]

its 1937 so not really, M1's

[lament quail]

i can manually justify once world tension hits 50%

i also set lithuania and estonia to stay historical

[glacial steeple]

do it with focus

faster

[lament quail]

i dont have one of those

[glacial steeple]

you have baltic entente union thing no?

[lament quail]

only the focus that makes a faction

[glacial steeple]

if they refuse that you get a wargoal

yes

faction refusal gets you wargoals

[lament quail]

and how do i ensure they refuse

[glacial steeple]

idk if they accept on hist

[lament quail]

im playing nonhistorical but i set lithuania and estonia to go historical specifically

because i cant handle their damn soviet shenanigans anymore

how may this affect

[glacial steeple]

idk

try it out

[lament quail]

ok then

should i go for the paramilitarist branch's buffs first

[upbeat arrow]

mah guns

[lament quail]

or go straight down to the baltic entente focus

[glacial steeple]

do whatever makes you not explode and eat your neighbours

[lament quail]

ok then

[glacial steeple]

you start with the best equipped army and most mols

mils**

[balmy dawn]

Two things always infuriate me about the AI...

How the AI can generate naval superiority instantly with a single Destroyer
How the AI is completely unaffected by supply issues

[glacial steeple]

you have about 200 more starting guns than lithuania

and 1 more starting mil

[upbeat arrow]

???

[stuck garnet]

how supply when this happen

btw this is kaiserreich so it doesnt matter

i just hate when i have big navy and uhh

it has no supply

[vital geode]

Where are the carriers?

[stuck garnet]

about 3

[vital geode]

I see there is 3

But more the merrier

[stuck garnet]

not making carriers as starting usa cause im playing kaiserreich and theres gonna be a civil war soon

dont see the point

[vital geode]

Oh

[stuck garnet]

• i dont know carrier plane designs anyways 😭

[vital geode]

It's kaiserreich

Oh yeah, USS Massachusetts

[stuck garnet]

idk i ask for advice when mods are vanilla adjacent

here specifically

[vital geode]

Naval supply is funny

And in either case, you will lose a large portion of your ships temporarily

[deft wyvern]

I haven't called my puppet into war, can I use their troops to defend my territory? For example if I have a puppet defending an occupied province I control like Dunkirk and the enemy wants to naval invade there.. What happens?

[vital geode]

I swear it is like 1/3 pacific fleet, 1/3 federal government, rest split between the syndicalists and longists

[vital geode]

Yes

You can yoink their troops and use them for defending

[deft wyvern]

So if I request control they count as my forces?

and contribute to my war score?

what about equipment etc?

[quartz jackal]

Recommended fighter and CAS builds 1940?

[uneven bay]

my manpower isnt mobilizing and i've been stuck on 248k manpower for months

what can i do

[tropic seal]

Is org or defense more important on defensive infantry?

[glacial steeple]

go up conscription law

[tropic seal]

Did you cahnge your law

[uneven bay]

many times

[glacial steeple]

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68

[uneven bay]

i alr did

[glacial steeple]

it isnt instant

go up 1 law and wait

[glacial steeple]

youre on limited conscription

you wanna be on extensive

[uneven bay]

shouldnt there be atleast a bit of manpower mobilizing per day?

[tropic seal]

there is

its probably just instnatly going into reinforcements

or something

[uneven bay]

when that happens i can see that i have a couple of thousands free manpower for frames

it doesnt happen now

and my reinforcements have been like that for a while

[tropic seal]

what country are you playing and whats ur current conscription law?

[uneven bay]

austria hungary

and extensive

still nothing

[tropic seal]

interesting

ive just done two back to back hungary runs with no mp problems

is it still not increasing after a while

[uneven bay]

for a year now

it was fine until i did a peace conference

[tropic seal]

by the way

which political path in the focus of hungary leads to austria hungary

i forgot about it

[uneven bay]

bruh

[fierce idol]

germany, is it ever worth taking danzig for slovakia?

[full tide]

Not really?
It is fun for larp but you can if you plan it right almost always beat the allies before america joins

[deft wyvern]

Well you're only gaining 600 manpower each month, which is like 7k in a year. Are your divisions are full strength?

[uneven bay]

yea im gaining exactly 666 manpower each month

and most of my divisions arent full strenght

[deft wyvern]

How is ur stability/war support?

That affects mobilisation speed

[uneven bay]

87 and 78

isnt this a bug

[deft wyvern]

tbh idk it looks weird to me cuz ur total manpower should be at 550k but you seem to have none available

[full tide]

what are the casulties?

[uneven bay]

i have a lot of population thats not the problem

it was perfectly fine until the peace conference

[deft wyvern]

did u lose land?

[uneven bay]

i gained a lot

i was the winner

[sand ember]

you went to extensive conscription yeah? send a new screenshot

you're reading it wrong

the 600 you're gaining per month is just the simulated population growth, not actually mobilization

[lament quail]

germany is going communist; should I just try to kill the baltics with my perkonkrust debuffs still up or do i have time to fix them

[uneven bay]

i did get manpower from that tho, i had 148k and now i have 152k after some months

[sand ember]

u should gain a lot more than 4k after several months of extensive conscription

[uneven bay]

yep

its bugged ig

[sand ember]

probably not

[sand ember]

send new screenshot of manpower icon?

gotta be something else

[maiden lintel]

doesnt affect ur army so i guess kill the baltics

[tropic seal]

is superior firepower viable?

[uneven bay]

im at war now

[tropic seal]

especially if youre not plannign on attacking much

[lament quail]

context

[sweet summit]

Casey ?

Is this the one i should be using as Afghanistan ?

[maiden lintel]

concentrate ur forces gng

[maiden lintel]

no

basic inf would be better

[tropic seal]

Is this a good defense template

like purely defense

these units wont be pushing

singeplayer

[maiden lintel]

too expensive u dont need spaa or maintenance companies

[lament quail]

also, "kill the baltics" implies doing this focus, sending out the requests for making the faction, and hoping they refuse so i get a puppet wargoal

[maiden lintel]

get relations up

[lament quail]

up?

[tropic seal]

i wont have an air force

[maiden lintel]

for max chances of them accepting

[tropic seal]

im not plannign on making an airforce

[maiden lintel]

dont go spaa normal aa is fine

build aa if u need to

[tropic seal]

aight

but isnt the spaa also for armor

to give the div armor

do i replace it with anything?

[maiden lintel]

space marine esk div

[tropic seal]

and is line art good for defense?

[tropic seal]

yeah thats what i think this temp was going for

[maiden lintel]

18w 1 arty is fine

anything else is either too expensive or useless

[tropic seal]

ok

[sand ember]

how has it only gone up to 3.05% the heck

[tropic seal]

what support companies then?

Support art, Support aa, logi what else

pure defense

engi

[maiden lintel]

aa, arty, logi if needed

nothing else

[tropic seal]

nothing in fifth slot?

[maiden lintel]

no

[tropic seal]

would signal be viable or nah

[maiden lintel]

also engineers

[tropic seal]

ye

[maiden lintel]

if u can afford em

[tropic seal]

art aa logi engi

[tropic seal]

aight

[maiden lintel]

who u playin

[tropic seal]

hungary

ive heard from people that line art is really bad though

should i remove it or nah

[maiden lintel]

do 18w no art just engineers and aa

and arty

logi if absolutely needed

[sand ember]

So basically why is your mobilization speed so low

You’re only getting .001% per day

[tropic seal]

wdym by no art and arty

[sand ember]

So it’s been like 2 months since your screenshot

[tropic seal]

do u mean no suppor tart and yes line art

?

[maiden lintel]

its the same

art and arty are the same

artillery

[tropic seal]

oh so no support artillery and no line artillery?

[maiden lintel]

support arty

no line

[tropic seal]

aight

[maiden lintel]

show ur situation

[tropic seal]

1937 rn

game just started so theres nothing interesting

[maiden lintel]

what path

[tropic seal]

uh

continue regency

non aligned

[maiden lintel]

alr

[tropic seal]

planning on joining axis

[maiden lintel]

so historical ish

[tropic seal]

yeah

except im not going fascist

cuz that tanks my stability

[maiden lintel]

will u reform austria hungary

u can get austria before germany

[tropic seal]

prolly not

ill go for slovakia

instead

[maiden lintel]

alr

[tropic seal]

slovakia has nice mountains to defend on

[maiden lintel]

u will need to bail out the axis on the eastern front when that stalls

[tropic seal]

aw naw its going to lose

i cranked up the soveit union's strength

in game settings

[maiden lintel]

then why join the axis

go for the allies

[tropic seal]

because i wanted to make a hold hungary for fun

[maiden lintel]

ur gonna die

[tropic seal]

im not planning on winning this playthrough

yes

[lament quail]

they accepted; guess I restart now 🙂

[maiden lintel]

they will cas the shit outta u

[maiden lintel]

huh

[lament quail]

i WANtED them to say no

[tropic seal]

yeah there was ten thousand planes over my airspace the last time i died

[lament quail]

bc then

i get puppet wargoal

[maiden lintel]

oh

go back to the save

[lament quail]

ironman 🙂

[maiden lintel]

gg

[maiden lintel]

make sure to build aa

[tropic seal]

@maiden lintel so something like this + signal?

[tropic seal]

i had max aa in every rregioj last time

still didnt work

35 aa guns

so this time ill build interceptors

[maiden lintel]

remove logi

[tropic seal]

maybe

[maiden lintel]

perfect unit

[tropic seal]

ah aight

so aa arty engi signal

?

[maiden lintel]

how many mils u got

no signal

[tropic seal]

i got up to 80 last time

i think

even while civ greeding

[maiden lintel]

show production

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[tropic seal]

its late 37 i havent done anything

excep tthe default lines

and aa

[maiden lintel]

i dont know base hungary lines

havent played em yet

[tropic seal]

base is infantry requupment

support equipment

and arty

i just added aa and trucks

[maiden lintel]

alr

start building mils like now

after any civs

[tropic seal]

igjt

[maiden lintel]

mid-late 37 u should be building mils

[tropic seal]

oh

ok

everytime i played germany i only stared building mils like mid 1938

cuz i went prioritise economic growth

[maiden lintel]

autarky is better if u goin on the offensive

[tropic seal]

yeah i tried but i kinda suck at managing the mefo bills

[maiden lintel]

aint bad when u cap the allies in 41

then u can do autarky

[tropic seal]

ah

i did manage to cap the allies early 42 i think

not including the soviets

since capping them is a pain with no spy network

[maiden lintel]

u should barb at the latest 42 so ur eco doesnt die if u doin mefo

[tropic seal]

yeah

thats why i usually go eco grwoth

[austere roost]

You should build mils 3 years before the war

Ofc for Germany you'll want to get 50 civs first

[lament quail]

can I beat Poland to Lithuania

[cold garnet]

Yes

If not, try anyway

Never give up

[lament quail]

never back down never what

[lyric vale]

im trynna backdate hoi4 but everytime i put my steam info into the website "https://accounts.paradoxplaza.com/games" it doesnt let me? is there something im missing?

[tropic seal]

what's the best plane type for homeland defense

i dont need to stack range on them

[candid skiff]

What is a random path I should force my friend to take?

[lyric vale]

fascist south africa

[narrow grail]

Is it even possible to draw battleplan at this island?

[left mica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrfR91lIO0c

no way segl dropped peaj

[fierce idol]

is it worth taking northern ontario to invade america?

like just to have a wider frontline

[sweet summit]

Yup

[night obsidian]

is signal / field hostipal worth it?

[stiff coral]

okay odd circumstance. i have zero factories and no valid routes for trade/lend lease. are there any other methods of getting equipment?

[sweet summit]

Field hospital, if you haev low manpower

Signals seem to be meta in mp, dunno about sp

[night obsidian]

oh yeah? how come?

[left mica]

signal increases reinforce rate and initiative

i think initiative means higher chance of rolling better tactics?

@glacial steeple what does initiative do

field hospital is meta because it decreases casualties and helps preserve div veterancy and war support

[left mica]

small fighters

best you can get

@scenic nacelle fellow nijika enjoyer

[hidden monolith]

Bro Poland is god damn tough to break through im playing as Germany and I’ll invade at like 1939 and its like I have 30+ divisions of infantry and like 8 divisions of armored and they just spank me like a naughty child

Like I’ll put the front line up then choose spearhead through posnan I have CAS and air superiority I assign the planes to like an army like I’m just getting skill diffed

[night obsidian]

something is wrong, I always break through fairly fast. What are your divisions looking like?

[hidden monolith]

I have 9 infantry and one artillery like 3 infantry three infantry three infantry then on the side one artillery

I’m running panzer II and like a couple of motorized infantry in my panzer divisions

I’m sorry if this is confusing

[night obsidian]

what support companies?

Panzer II's are meh, I started with them but you need a lot of them to get the breakthrough thats worth it

[tropic seal]

do thermonukes do friendly fire?

[tropic seal]

yes

[hidden monolith]

On my infantry division I have engineer company and support artillery

[night obsidian]

honestly im still fairly new so I might give bad advice, but I was able to do just fine with some 7/2 or 8/1 (infantry/field art) then a couply of panzer divs with at least 8 tanks and 6 motor

good start, but I improve that to have recon, support AA (if you have AA) and field hospital, or for the tanks a maintenance, logi and flame tank.

wait what year are you invading poland?

[tropic seal]

i would also slap on support aa

[night obsidian]

yep support AA is great

[tropic seal]

keep inf divs 18w

in most cases

[night obsidian]

mind you I only put everything on the divisions I plan to use for attack

[hidden monolith]

I’m sorry I’m new but how do you check width

[night obsidian]

ive had people telling me that doesnt matter in SP, but at the same time i've been keeping it that way for terrain reason

[hidden monolith]

I’m invading in 1939

[hidden monolith]

Noted

[hidden monolith]

I see!!!!!

[night obsidian]

1939 should be fine, eventually they tech up but yeah i don't know why you're not punching through.

when you use the panzers, only put them on a small part of the battle line (like 2 tiles) then do the thrust

if they spread out they wont punch as much

[tropic seal]

ah im ntos ure abt that

but yeah i usually go 18w anyway

[night obsidian]

and then make sure you have another division following them to plug the line

[hidden monolith]

So when you attack right you set your front line then you hit spearhead right then they supposed to like punch through where you paint

[tropic seal]

poland u can just do gbp draw and offensive line and forget

france just draw a spearhead through the low countries to the coast and forget

[tropic seal]

uh

idk if ur meant to spearhead infantry

or do u mean armor

[hidden monolith]

So you don’t spearhead infantry?

[tropic seal]

yeah

[left mica]

no?

[tropic seal]

wait do u?

[left mica]

who does that

[hidden monolith]

Yeah I’m new

[left mica]

unless you use 36w infantry blocks

[tropic seal]

use offensive line

[left mica]

hi new im dad

[night obsidian]

not as much, unless you have infantry with high width & breakthrough etc

[left mica]

Watch this tutorial

Its a bit janky to watch

but he used an infantry only build

Though he did a couple weird things like building cheap naval bombers or forgetting to assign air wings to do their mission during barbarossa

[hidden monolith]

Thanks I’ll watch that I guess I been doing it all wrong

[left mica]

not really

tank germany is still the main way to do it

[hidden monolith]

Yeah I like tanks better anyways tiger my beloved xD

[left mica]

https://youtu.be/JV2tDbNYstc?si=B7aTSeq4p0JopmZf there’s this ger guide with a tank build

Its pre-ncns

[hidden monolith]

What is ncns

[tropic seal]

no comrpomise no surrender

dlc

[hidden monolith]

Which dlcs do you guys like

[tropic seal]

everytime i click deploy new airwing the window pops up for a split second then dissapears

am i cooked

[hidden monolith]

I was thinking of buying some

[tropic seal]

no step back is pretty nice

gotterdamerung

[left mica]

bro plays without dlc...

[hidden monolith]

I’ll keep that in mind

[left mica]

la resistance is the best dlc rn i think

[tropic seal]

the dlcs are hella excpensive

[tropic seal]

i actually have that disabled

(i hate the spy agency)

[hidden monolith]

Yeah I was going to get good at the base game before I played with dlcs

[left mica]

lets you do collaboration governments which MASSIVELY reduces surrender limit and can get you 100% compliance after 3 collabs

pdx base games are always so bad

[tropic seal]

the real man punches through the soviets till the urals then runs out of supply so you sit there until 48 and nuke them

[left mica]

its almost as if they dont want you to have fun

[left mica]

ew

[tropic seal]

thats the play

[left mica]

no

[tropic seal]

yes

[left mica]

what if you can cap them after taking stalingrad and moscow

go reenable la resistance

[tropic seal]

then i wouldnt have the privilege of being bogged down east of stalingrad with no supply

[left mica]

honestly if you can only buy one DLC then buy la resistance

[left mica]

sounds like coping

[tropic seal]

i hate using the spy agency 😭

[left mica]

me when you dont have to cope

[hidden monolith]

Dude the Soviet Union is so big it’s kind of intimidating but then I remember Russia had the most casualties in ww2

[left mica]

bro spy agency has to be the easiest mechanic out there

me when i can cap ussr in 1941 and not 1961

[tropic seal]

if you nuke them enough you can get it done by 1950!!

blazing speeds

[hidden monolith]

Treat them like Japan xdddd

[tropic seal]

the huge lagspike when the soviet union surrenders is always hilarious

[hidden monolith]

I’m going to get good enough to take over Soviet Union

I swear xD

[gray geode]

Can even do it in 1945 if you play your cards right 😆

[tropic seal]

yep the aint never seen speeds like this

[gray geode]

Insta go on the path to nukes

[tropic seal]

yes

[gray geode]

Get them in early 40s

[tropic seal]

peace conferences are hilarious

i just took ten states

from the soveit union

while not attacking them once and suffering 0 casualties

[sweet summit]

Chat is there somebody here who can help me with Quami 🥀

[sweet summit]

Should i just start shitting out milita divs ?

[tropic seal]

being a small nation with nukes is hilarious

i have 76 casualties with 900k kills

[sweet summit]

Ref he's cheating

[tropic seal]

Sit behind germany and throw icbms out

Why don't nukes decrease recruitable population?

you would think itll be hard to raise an army from a wasteland

[sweet summit]

DAMN BRO CHILL

How do i get more generals

They cost like 60 cp now and i still have to allocate 150 more divs

[tropic seal]

promote divsional commanders i think

ive never ran out of generals and cp though so im not sure

[sweet summit]

It's 60 cp 🥀

[inner sparrow]

me when I use collabs as ger and suddenly I have 400 mils at barb

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466705260677824544/1228227266341900378/togif-2-1.gif

[left mica]

Real

[neat widget]

NCNS makes this slightly easier I believe if you know mastery grinding tricks, otherwise oof

[neat widget]

chonky cat

cat with 400 factories

[left mica]

How do you grind tank mastery anyway

It always takes forever to get it to tier 2

because i always win too early or something

[neat widget]

To be fair it is pretty easy for Germany to win quite easily

[left mica]

i mean for all majors as well

[inner sparrow]

u do 50ws that have all eq turned off but count as fully equipped with 100 guns

[left mica]

huh

[inner sparrow]

u can do it with any type of batallion to farm mastery for all doctrines

[left mica]

Okay

[neat widget]

I think you do need tanks though

[left mica]

so just have those tank divs in the field with no eq

[inner sparrow]

train 100 2w, change the 2w inf/tank into a 2w aa with all eq turned off, change it into a 50w inf or tank with all equipment turned off and let mp fill up

counts as fully equipped division

[left mica]

alr

[inner sparrow]

yeah if u grind tank doctrine u do it with 2w tanks into 2aa into 50w tanks instead

[neat widget]

Yeah pretty much

speaking of 50w

manpower 🙁

---

Btw while we're on the topic, I'm not sure if this is a good idea but if you're not going tanks you can print out enough of these with 4 factories in one year to train your army

And then it'd take 1-2 more years to train doctrine to full with the 50w trick I think

I haven't seen anyone else recommend such a thing to other people, so idk

[gusty briar]

So im playing non-historic, as communist Germany, Sweden flips communist and joins my faction then while im at war with the allies they flip back to democratic, join the allies and become the allies 3rd major right before I cap the UK.

I finally cap sweden and now... there land isnt available in the Peace conference, why?

Just a bug?

[neat widget]

Sounds like a bug

[gusty briar]

Damn

[neat widget]

Is this on ironman?

[gusty briar]

Nope

[neat widget]

Oh then save the game, push forward with the peace conference, and see if you're still at war with sweden

[gusty briar]

Yeah makes sense, I did get the pop up that they capped though when peace conference was starting

And stupid France decided to have a communist revolution too right before I capped sweden so now everything that isnt occitain, Normandy, or Basque I cant puppet only can give it to the French commune 🤬

[neat widget]

the game just puts some countries in separate peace deals for whatever reason

it doesn't seem consistent

[gusty briar]

I see

[glacial steeple]

go to wiki

[pure stream]

What does it mean to not have coverage?

[glacial steeple]

planes cant reach

it also affects their mission efficiency

[gusty briar]

Oh well im still at war with allies even though sweden the o ly major capped? Guatemala and Honduras are also in the war somehow

But are minors, Brazil and Chile are both in the Allies but not at war with me, but have about 50 factories so maybe they are majors and thats somehow keeping them alive?

[dusty sandal]

see the circles ? that's your range
you need to be able to reach about 1/3rd of the region to deploy there, and the more area you can't cover in said area, the more penalities to efficiency you take (which means less stats, losing more planes and killing less)

[night obsidian]

hey someone said earlier that with the marines SF doctrine, you can go down the line for the mechanized and then switch and somehow retain the contruction speed, is that true?

or did I misunderstand him and he meant just do it until you have outfit your marines

tbh im not sure id switch

[versed rose]

this is true, and if you have naval xp to spare, you should do it. Right branch as far superior outside of amtrac cost reduction

[bright socket]

I have also a question. Can you explain to me how to do Naval Invasions. I sent my Wohle Navy as germany to the English Channel and nothing Happens. Even if i select Naval Intelligence

[cold garnet]

The production cost reduction?

Yeah you keep that -15% cost on amtrac

[night obsidian]

when do you keep it? once researched or immediately after you unlock it?

[hoary glen]

Pretty sure you need to start building the Amtracs

[night obsidian]

got it, makes sense

like once you have the production line going

[night obsidian]

Far superior? How so? The left one has soft attack and breakthrough for the amtracs, what am I missing?

aside from marines, what widths is good for say paratroopers or mountaineers?

[hoary glen]

When you have an army your General has these different tasks, like Frontline or Garrisons etc. and there you can also select Naval Invasions. You can only do a very limited amount and they take long to prepare, so start setting them up early. You want to always attack a hostile port and the two tiles surrounding it, so even if you can't break the port you can encircle the Divs and beat them with force attack.

If you have set up this plan there will be arrows on the sea pointing from the starting harbor to the invasion goal. In all naval zones this touches you need supremacy. That means that you have more ships with better value than the enemy does. How good you are doing you can tell by clicking on the naval zone and look at the bar that is there. It shows exactly how much supremacy you will get and how much is needed. Do keep in mind that supremacy only ticks up slowly and you must be on patrol and have anythingother than "never engage" setting.

[hoary glen]

It's better if you use more other special forces besides Amtracs bc you get a generic+10% attack for all special forces

[night obsidian]

Patrick, does "naval support" help to dominance, or is it only the first three?

[hoary glen]

Only patrol gains dominance and strike force gives a multiplier of that value.

Raiding reduce enemy dominance, but it's kinda a nothingburger

[night obsidian]

right, but i noticed that raiding convoy can decrease opponents...

got it

yeah basically nothign

[hoary glen]

Unless you use two paras per tile the fattest you can, else like 38w or something is good for cities and other relative open terrain tiles.

If you plan to attack into mountains max width for Mountaineers is 32w, but else you can go up to 36.

[night obsidian]

got it

i saw a vid somewhere that has the optimal width at like 15 for all terrain (different terrain having different optimal)

so for infantry incl special forces i've been using smaller width...

[versed rose]

unless you're using pure amtrac bricks, right side gives more stats because of 10% special forces attack, this is a country modifier, not a unit modifier, so this can apply to tank divisions with amtracs (ideal tank div btw)

[night obsidian]

not marines, i go large with them

yeah amtrac tank is build i like

[hoary glen]

Well it's kinda true, just the issue with small divisions is that they take a lot higher losses IC and manpower wise bc they have half the HP of a bigger division. Also they have less defence and breakthrough, which makes them overall worse.

The only upside is they offer a lot of utility bc you can have more Divs, so it's easier to have at least something on very large fronts. You just would not want to attack with them and rather them be a holding division.

[night obsidian]

i mean airborne i sort of drop in and defend the spot, mind you i think if i dropped a single 38 width division it'd probably hold longer on that tile

[hoary glen]

The bigger the paratrooper the better. They have a lot more HP and defence so you can last stand them for ages.

[night obsidian]

yeee

i cant wait to use them

best tank mio for USA?

[bright socket]

Thank you realy much or in german Dankeschön

[tacit urchin]

any strats to conquer usa as canada/mexico?

[glacial steeple]

if the day ticks over after unlocking it

it adds a tech

[glacial steeple]

even without, all attack includes break i think

[glacial steeple]

standardized 💔

theyre all bad

[night obsidian]

figures

shermans

[versed rose]

attack country modifier doesnt include break, need defense country modifier for that

infantry genius giving inf +20% break, very cool

[night obsidian]

wait so having 2 different special forces gives 20%?

oh only for defence

[glacial steeple]

inf genius + SF genius + panzer genius is peak

inf applies to amphtracs i think?

[versed rose]

no

need mech

amtracs are truck

[glacial steeple]

over......

sp is fun because you can choose all the terrible doctrines and win

i should do a fast inf build sometime

[night obsidian]

really... i thought amtrac would be mech, ah well

[glacial steeple]

truck subtype

hover over the 4 squares next to hardness bar to see unit composition in buffs

[night obsidian]

ah ok thanks

still early game so dont have them yet

[dire jackal]

how do I stop this resistance and my manpower 😭 (also i play with no dlc)

[night obsidian]

use your spies to help reduce resistance

and find anti resistance focuses

[dire jackal]

arent spies dlc?

[night obsidian]

oh my bad

[dire jackal]

im on base game rn

ill be getting subscription soon, im still learning how to do wars with germany

[night obsidian]

outside of directly editing the garison template, upgrading your MP's or changing the occupation settings I dont know

Do field hospitals help garrisons/

?

[dire jackal]

i have like a single calvary unit in the template

[dire jackal]

oh i barely researched support companies 💔

[night obsidian]

OH

no no you need more cav for the suppression to go up

[glacial steeple]

no

[glacial steeple]

i use medium tanks when its an issue

[night obsidian]

you actually need like at least 6, at this stage maybe more, its going to suck out your manpower a bit but 1 isnt enough. And always have MPs

[dire jackal]

idk what setting to put on the subjected countries

or occupied rather

[glacial steeple]

local police force or civ oversight for absurdly long games (post 42/43)

otherwise harsh quotas

mil governor is the worst

[dire jackal]

oh im only by the start of 1941

[glacial steeple]

why are czechs on no garrison sob

[night obsidian]

this sets default

[dire jackal]

can i see your garrison template?

[night obsidian]

this sets for each region

im on a new game so I dont have mine setup yet

[glacial steeple]

you can also click per state

[night obsidian]

literally 6-12 cav and an MP

i increase and decrease when needed

[night obsidian]

oh i didnt know, how do you do that? click on the state?

[dire jackal]

this might be a huge problem

and im also out of manpower cause of norway's stupid mountains

[glacial steeple]

yes

[glacial steeple]

you mismanaged it hard yeah

[dire jackal]

well i dont really know anything about garrisons yet

[glacial steeple]

make medium tanks for garrisons

[night obsidian]

yeah prepare for them to rise up...

[dire jackal]

i gain my knowledge from watching pros

[glacial steeple]

just pure med tank divs

cheapest design

give them one of the icons

[dire jackal]

i have about 3k light tanks in stockpile

[glacial steeple]

and then set your div icon to the same thing so it only uses those tanks

[dire jackal]

that i dont use

[glacial steeple]

useless

[dire jackal]

oh

[coarse finch]

right

[dire jackal]

3 battalions or 5?

medium tanks

[glacial steeple]

25

[dire jackal]

also do I still need to make the division itself?

[dire jackal]

holy heck

[glacial steeple]

it uses less

[dire jackal]

no support companies right?

[coarse finch]

Also hi Casey

[light knoll]

mp

[dire jackal]

?

[indigo sapphire]

should i make a template/div full of Ranger units

[glacial steeple]

make these with mp support

i dont have it researched in my game rn

the fire icon is so it only uses those tanks

and no other tanks

[night obsidian]

weird, its feb 1938 and japan hasnt gone to war with china yet

[glacial steeple]

helloo how are you cat of chak

[coarse finch]

I'm not Chaks cat smh

I'm good tho wbu?

[glacial steeple]

its literally your name

im pretty good

[coarse finch]

Also I really need to catch up hoi meta. Since when are medium tanks the best garrison divs

[glacial steeple]

tired

its best for like hardness

theres a ton of resistance modifiers

its technically always been better just like no one cared to do the math

and then foxsy did the math

[inner sparrow]

what are my eyes witnessing

[dire jackal]

I dont have dlc for the first pic 😭

[glacial steeple]

oh then dont do it

[dire jackal]

a newbie

[glacial steeple]

hiii clown

look at resistance pic above

[inner sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466705260677824544/1228227266341900378/togif-2-1.gif

[night obsidian]

my japan AI has decided not to go to war with china... i swear im in historic...

[cold bloom]

What are you playing?

[night obsidian]

usa

[cold bloom]

hmm Japan doesnt have abort conditions so it shouldve

[night obsidian]

i just tagged to japan to look and its going down a completely different path

any way to check my settings to make sure its historical?

i looked online and it said sometimes this can happen, like it doesnt do it until 1938 or later...

[lament quail]

how can I get lithuania and estonia to reject the military cooperation

they keep accepting

[sudden tangle]

@glacial steeple

I wasn’t able to beat your record

[light knoll]

please tell me this is not vanilla

[sudden tangle]

It is

[light knoll]

how long have the game been running

[sudden tangle]

If I had think at the top of my mind

About 24 ish hours total maybe less

[light knoll]

what were you doing the entire time

[sudden tangle]

Justifying on African countries takes awhile man

[sudden tangle]

Winning

[light knoll]

lmao

[sudden tangle]

I got the Brazil world conquest achievement was worth it

That can hang there alongside launching a gnome into space from HL2

[amber creek]

what is the dlc that gives mios

[lament quail]

which of these is best

[glacial steeple]

damn you made it to lategame hoi

now restore the 1936 borders fr

[sudden tangle]

Fire concentration

[sudden tangle]

Or I release myself as kudistnan

[glacial steeple]

both?

[sudden tangle]

Actually have to return to the save to nuke Terra del fuego , get 21 subjects , and release myself as Kurdistan and then it’s finally over

I’ve been on this save game for a week

[sudden tangle]

Arms against tyranny

[dusty sandal]

what build ?

AT frontline is useless
fire concentration is meh at best
air cavalry is very good but requires a lot of resources
field engineering is alright but nothing spectacular
siege arty is very good for special forces or infantry only, but requires you to pick the doctrine late
mobile recon is alright for tanks

[indigo sapphire]

how can i win as estonia from 1936 till 1945 or later

[half glade]

as communist china, do the buffs to milita via focuses and other means make them better than infantry?

[lament quail]

Wdym by build

[dusty sandal]

it depends on the units you want to use

[glacial steeple]

francis do you know what the best no MIO plane is, is it just the same

im curious

and poor

[half glade]

casey you played commy china

do you know if the militia units are better than inf

if you get the buffs for them

[dusty sandal]

it's the same but with 2 extra fuel tanks, I believe

[indigo sapphire]

someone answer this

[glacial steeple]

they are especially cuz editable

[twin tangle]

what path

[glacial steeple]

strike first because while you can easily equip your few units with good equipment you will never outscale enemies

[indigo sapphire]

well ill stay Non aligned

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx casey

[twin tangle]

why

thats boring

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[glacial steeple]

this is what i have rn

[indigo sapphire]

then what path should i do

[half glade]

what do you mean editable?

[twin tangle]

idk either fascist and join ger or commie and join sov

[indigo sapphire]

i do like the Fascist path

[twin tangle]

you can unite the baltics

[indigo sapphire]

since i dont like commies

[twin tangle]

uniting the baltics is fun

give it a try

[indigo sapphire]

yes it is

ive done it a couple few times

first i make a SUPER OP arty div

then train enough of em

and then declare war on both baltics

AND then charge in at lighting speed

[glacial steeple]

you have militia tech

[indigo sapphire]

@twin tangle

[glacial steeple]

only nation to start with the tech instead of designs you cant add militias to

[half glade]

milita have tech?

[twin tangle]

wdym by super op arty div

[half glade]

ohh are the templates usually uneditable for other nations?

[twin tangle]

@glacial steeple line arty still sucks right?

[indigo sapphire]

a Div full of line arty like the combat battalion of line arty

[twin tangle]

oh god

[indigo sapphire]

what

[twin tangle]

yeah stop doing that

[indigo sapphire]

why?

[twin tangle]

that division is awful

it has no organization or strength

[glacial steeple]

i wanna try a katyusha build with new doctrines but ough

also yeah it still sucks

[twin tangle]

you can take the baltics with simple 16w infantry

[indigo sapphire]

OH alr

thx

[twin tangle]

whats stopping you

[glacial steeple]

ive taken it with starting equipment lol

[twin tangle]

have fun

[glacial steeple]

like twice

[glacial steeple]

i wanna continue my australia game theres wars going on

im not in them

[indigo sapphire]

btw are the Ranger unit worth it for Estonia?

[glacial steeple]

but railways

[twin tangle]

prolly not the best country to try it on

[twin tangle]

yeah why not

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx again bitt

i did make a couple few templates with rangers unit

[glacial steeple]

im just making infrastructure

im wholesome

[indigo sapphire]

@twin tangle

[twin tangle]

you only need 1 template

[glacial steeple]

2

[indigo sapphire]

alr why?

[glacial steeple]

holder and ranger

[twin tangle]

yeah technically

[glacial steeple]

maybe a garrisont template too

[twin tangle]

making a lot of templates is a waste of xp and kinda hard to manage

and pointless

[glacial steeple]

@askforhelpgpt explain how to improve this tank div step by step

[indigo sapphire]

alr bitt

[twin tangle]

Oh that's a great question! First, you should start by adding three battalions of line artillery-

[indigo sapphire]

whats a good meta inf div

[twin tangle]

also when did you start using nato symbols lol @glacial steeple

[glacial steeple]

ive used them before i felt like using them again

[indigo sapphire]

i also used a long time ago Nato symbols

btw how many main meta templates should i make

[night obsidian]

lol, 1939, japan never invaded china, i think my game is bugged

[twin tangle]

i only use them in black ice for the full immersive experience

[dusty sandal]

mods, ahist behaviour from player can alter ai focuses

[night obsidian]

i have no mods changing focuses

the only thing i have is special forces one

[glacial steeple]

its good to learn the icons for when people ask for help

[night obsidian]

and like graphical ones

[glacial steeple]

its happened before and i was confused a bit

[indigo sapphire]

someone answer this

[dusty sandal]

2

you basically have inf and attack div

[indigo sapphire]

why only 2?

[twin tangle]

just give them this lol

[dusty sandal]

attack div is special force, brick inf or tank
inf is inf

[indigo sapphire]

alr

i do like making historical and real life Templates

[night obsidian]

germany is behavind like norma

[twin tangle]

based

[indigo sapphire]

wdym by based?

[twin tangle]

as in cool

[indigo sapphire]

alr thx bitt

i do like the BICE and MD mods a LOT

[dusty sandal]

what about you?

[indigo sapphire]

since they add a lot of units

[night obsidian]

yeah standard USA, its my first playthrough

[half glade]

im liking this

[dusty sandal]

new deal, neutralityact and all that ?

[half glade]

how do i defend against japan now

cause my front is rather large lol

[glacial steeple]

i didnt know that sheet was a thing i was just using my memory.......

saving that in my personal gc so i can find it back

[twin tangle]

its pretty much essential for when you're playing black ice

[indigo sapphire]

@twin tangle

[glacial steeple]

how so

[twin tangle]

they have a ton of added units

[half glade]

does this seem a good line to hold?

[twin tangle]

and you need to learn the nato symbols for each one

[twin tangle]

i do like them too

[indigo sapphire]

alr

good Bitt

i like your style m8

[twin tangle]

that is not holding brochacho

[indigo sapphire]

i do like using all of the Combat battalions in bice and Md

[half glade]

well yeah because the war just started

but when the japanese get through

i can try use the mountains to my advantage

[indigo sapphire]

@twin tangle what bout you bitt?

[twin tangle]

yeah they're cool but kinda hard to get used to

[half glade]

am i cooked

first time fighting japan as a chinese country

kinda scared

[indigo sapphire]

alr bitt

is there a way to add Historical and real life units and templates into my hoi4 multi mod

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Army
basically ALL of these for Inf and rifle divs and etc units divs and templates

@twin tangle

[twin tangle]

yeah but i'm not that much into modding

[indigo sapphire]

oh alr sorry

ill add a lot of different variations of historical and real life units and templates like infantry/rifle tank armored marines etc @twin tangle

[twin tangle]

sounds cool

[indigo sapphire]

thx again bitt

im glad

and happy

btw i will combine the units strenghts into 1 for every main historical real life units and templates @twin tangle

[night obsidian]

is there a way to go back and look at the "news" after you dismiss it?

i have a bad habbit of dismissing it before i read it...

[hollow linden]

Nope sadly not

[night obsidian]

what are the difference between the 3 armored support vehicles and why do they have different ones/

[sweet summit]

uh one is cheaper

[scenic nacelle]

Wha

[sweet summit]

build that one

[tacit urchin]

any strats to conquer usa as canada/mexico?

[twin tangle]

attack early and snake with some cav

[tacit urchin]

how early

[twin tangle]

as early as you can afford

[half glade]

to beat japan as commy china, is my entire aim to get as much resistance in japanese controlled states as possible?

[twin tangle]

in your position i'd just stall until the japanese run out of men/equipment or until they declare on the allies in 42

make them suffer for each inch of ground

[half glade]

okay sounds good to me

gives me time to better my position too

[hoary glen]

If you make a Div of mainly Amtrac left side is better for it. I haven't tested Amtrac + Tanks. Likely right side will beat it.

[night obsidian]

left side?

[jade tulip]

any way to check my progress towards anschluss? "23 times bigger army" doesnt tell me anything and I have 63 divisions and game still tells me Im not done yet

[open radish]

can someone help me with light tank desings?

I finally learned how to inf, now I need to learn tanks

[echo night]

I was playing israel with ironman turned off, and suddenly the Uk declared war on spain in march 1939, and spain joined the comminterm. Now I didnt want the allies to fight the comminterm now so I white peace spain and the uk, but now I cant go back to playing israel or any country without my game crashing

what do I do

[hoary glen]

Marine SF Doctrine left side buffs Amtracs

[night obsidian]

oh

[hoary glen]

Just spam more. And make sure they are equipped and have Manpower

[jade tulip]

what is the popularity of neutrality?

[cold bloom]

neutrality is better known as non-aligned

neutrality is also the internal code name, shouldve probably not been used there

[jade tulip]

oh well, so Im assuming the lower it is, the less the total fighting strength I need

[night obsidian]

whats better, left or right side of paratroopers?

[dusty sandal]

depends, really
in general the branch that gives 10% special force atk is best

[open radish]

yo, the base german light tank desing is good?

[dusty sandal]

no

there is no base design in the game that's good

[open radish]

do you know hw to make agood one?

[dusty sandal]

light tanks fall out extremely quick so, in general, I'd advise not to build any but the recon ones

[open radish]

And for the early blitzkrieg?

[dusty sandal]

this is a high-tier recon tank, you can ditch all the armor ticks and swap the armor skirts for another extra ammo if hat's for a tank div

[dusty sandal]

you use medium SPGs

that's a 1938 tech, you can get it easily by mid 1937

[hollow linden]

Where flame 2?

Also PE for more break, why no break suspension?

Nvm this is shit

[open radish]

works for paras?

[dusty sandal]

this is for fingleplayer
but yeah flame 2 works for brk

[dusty sandal]

yes

[hollow linden]

And?

Break maxing

[dusty sandal]

but for paras I'd argue for once that 2 fuel drums instead of extra ammo would be worth

[hollow linden]

AAAAAAA

God

[dusty sandal]

CSG is so ass now 💔

[hollow linden]

I know 😭

Old design

[dusty sandal]

for paras dropping far out, it's genuinely the only time a fuel drum can make a difference

but I never bother with it myself

[hollow linden]

I guess so

[cursive ocean]

how do u recall volunteer divisions

[hollow linden]

By winning or losing the war

It's not a vanilla mechanic

[cursive ocean]

ok

[open radish]

alr thanks. So I go for med tanks right?

[open radish]

thats a good advice tbh

what about the reliability?

[dusty sandal]

medium SPG

[dusty sandal]

fake stat

especially for paratroopers

[open radish]

really?

It doesnt change things?

[hollow linden]

Not my much

[dusty sandal]

reli calculations are kinda weird and only apply when unit takes attrition

[hollow linden]

U usually have enough production to not worry about it

[open radish]

damn

[dusty sandal]

basically no attrition = reli doesn't do anything

(exdcept the recovery mechanic but that's niche tbf)

[hollow linden]

Just don't take attrition 5head

[open radish]

attrition is due lack of supplies and weather, right?

[dusty sandal]

and terrain

[hollow linden]

Many things

Nvm, no u need to be at war to deal damage to someone

Why

Just be at war???