ask-for-help-here

[sudden tangle]

Gg well played

[pliant condor]

if you look into the doctrines, all the good ones get bonus from it

so yes

[night obsidian]

so I should definitely have a production line going for them just for that then?

[sudden tangle]

Question

Torpedo bombers

Should I take torpedo 3 or the guided anti ship missile ?

What gives more bang for your buck in your opinion ?

[pliant condor]

if you have more than like 20 mils

[pliant condor]

look at the value of naval attack * naval targetting

whichever is higher

[sudden tangle]

Will have a look at that when I can get back to my pc thanks lad

[misty wagon]

I dont have thag

I only had a support tank thing and nothing else

[sudden tangle]

Do you have a navy research facility ?

[misty wagon]

Nope

[sudden tangle]

Build one

Even I don’t have the Germany dlc but I have access to it

[misty wagon]

I mean i dont have to naval invade, theres a imperial canadia up on canada thats in our faction where i can attack

[sudden tangle]

Alright mb

[misty wagon]

Idk tho, i tried sending army but they were so SLOW, and hard since canada also is with america

[sudden tangle]

What’s your template

[misty wagon]

I sent them up top not on pc aym

1 sec leme see

[sudden tangle]

You can also try do a simple SPG mech division

Should push USA

Or anything the air throws at you

[misty wagon]

Did modify a bit from last time

[misty wagon]

Whats that

Ill see i havent reallt even tried to take usa

I took soviets that wss mad easy

[sudden tangle]

Alright you got the right idea with the tank design

, just instead research the medium SPG for whatever tank you have and then in the template replace medium tank with SPG

And the motorized with mechanized

And as support company add signal and anti air and anti tank

[misty wagon]

Whats spg?

Alright

[sudden tangle]

Self propelled gun

You research it like it’s a tiny button next to the tank you’ve researched

There’s SPG , tank destroyer , anti air tank

And jsut click SPG one

[sudden tangle]

Also for the infantry I’d remove the artillery and add signal company anti air and anti tank gun support company

[glacial steeple]

every tank is an SPG

SPG is just so it doesnt get confused with SPAA

[misty wagon]

Beside invading USA, is there anything else i can do to leavw the faction

[night obsidian]

hey someone told me to mix marines with regular medium tanks for invading UK... but im watching it seriously drop my amphib attack.... am I missing something?

can someone point me to a place I can find a good division template for 1939-40 UK invasion for marines

[sudden tangle]

Doesn’t the SPG give more soft attack ?

[sudden tangle]

Sounds like he was telling you to do space marines

[night obsidian]

i had amphib tanks previously but he said dont bother with that

if space marines, then just 1 tank division is fine right?

maybe then some support art?

[sudden tangle]

Ye don’t just do naval invasion support for whatever fleet you have parked in the sea zone for dominance

And make them bomb the coast

[wintry matrix]

Space Marine means "have more armor than the average enemy infantry division has piercing".

It can be one heavy or a medium with enough armor.

[misty wagon]

Do u know?

[sudden tangle]

Also wdym to leave the faction

[glacial steeple]

the designation 'self propelled gun' isnt accurate to self propelled artillery

[night obsidian]

my meds are pretty light atm... do you know what armor value would work?

[glacial steeple]

it can be any vehicle with a gun mounted on it

[misty wagon]

Ok so im in the allies, and im tryna do a HRE run, france is divided from me, british empire and italy, and some other territory, i wsnt to leave the faction and attack them and take it for myself

[sudden tangle]

Are you at war ?

[misty wagon]

Yes

Woth usa canada and other north america

Thats why i wsnna just leave it somehow find a loophole

[sudden tangle]

You can’t leave the faction if your faction is at war

[sudden tangle]

Ah laddddd you get the point

My brains a bit on fire as I’m at work

[sudden tangle]

In short you need to kill Canada and USA sorry lad

[light swift]

what are the main units to attack with? Or the best.

[misty wagon]

Shit

Leme get on and fr help me make a plan 😭

[sudden tangle]

Invade through Canada or use the British island that’s next to the American east coast and naval invade

Easy enough

[elder vessel]

what is better: keep commissars organization or military political advisors

[vital plinth]

Hi I’m fighting Soviet and am deep in their land now but it hit a stall and they are so close to giving up but I have no supply or near supply hubs they out of range when I use motor , would train rails help with range if it connects to the division tile ? Or how does it work

[indigo sapphire]

what Special projects are good to use?

[hasty belfry]

Flame tanks are pretty good.

Military Engineering vehicles can also have their uses.

[sudden tangle]

Capture/ build supply hub

And connect them

[hasty belfry]

Radar has utility, although it’s hardly essential.

[dusty sandal]

no, supply comes from your capital and follows rails to hubs/ports from where supply is distributed. Rails do not generate supply

what you want in your situation is to no use tanks (0 fuel = 0 stats), push up aiming for supply hubs, use air and especially CAS (make sure the airfields are supplied, don't use those near the front where there are none)

alternatively, build more hubs

[sudden tangle]

Torpedo cruisers

[hasty belfry]

Nuclear weapons, obviously.

Proxy fuse can be useful, especially if you are using a lot of artillery because it unlocks a research that grants a pretty solid artillery buff.

[indigo sapphire]

alr

i like using a LOT of the SPs

like the new subs

[vital plinth]

Rails don’t increase range ? It’s in the winter sibira no supply hubs

[hollow linden]

I'd say it is in many scenarios in which you don't have numerical superiority

[vital plinth]

It’s mostly range that’s issue and can’t find new hubs it’s take so long to build

[hollow linden]

Like it's not bad to have it and the investment isn't substantial either

[hollow linden]

They don't. They just connect hubs and increase througput

[dusty sandal]

range is defined by motorization status of the hub, marginally by the level of infrastructure in the state and by fixed size of tiles

[hollow linden]

Rails have nothing to do with the supply range stat

[vital plinth]

Ok il try build infrastructure and more transport planes

[indigo sapphire]

how should i utilise the SPs i wanna use?

[hollow linden]

... No just make new hubs?

[dusty sandal]

transport planes don't give supply if the airbase they take off from isn't fully supplied

[hollow linden]

Transport planes do fk all

[dusty sandal]

and that yeah

[hollow linden]

It's like 1k per 1 supply

So per full airfield you get a whole 2 supply

It's literally cheaper and faster to build new hubs

[dusty sandal]

each plane can drop up to 0.02 supply under 100% efficiency which almost never happens

[indigo sapphire]

ey answer this

[hollow linden]

Well it does just not in fking siberia

Cuz air zones are to large you cant cover them

[dusty sandal]

there's no answer ? You do projects because you wanna use them, not the other way around ?

[indigo sapphire]

oh alr

[hollow linden]

Bruh 💀

[indigo sapphire]

sorry

[dusty sandal]

yeah, and the fact that the airports you have are generally too far from other hubs so they don't have enough supplies to drop any

[hollow linden]

So you build hubs for those airfields to drop supply instead of just building new hubs

Gg

@vital plinth do you see the problem here?

I certainly do

[vital plinth]

Im new i dont know much im just asking

[hollow linden]

And I just explained it to you

Nw

[vital plinth]

If airfield are supplied they still only drop very vejr little supply ?

[hollow linden]

Because Transport planes by themselves aren't that good yes

[vital plinth]

I understand thank you

[oak jasper]

Are you sure it's 0.02 per plane or 0.02 per transport wing (100 planes)? 0.02 per plane makes a lot more sense than 0.02 per wing.

[hollow linden]

It's 0.02 per plane @dusty sandal can u pull up the wiki? I don't remember

[vital plinth]

Ok I see , how much range do I get from upgrading infrastructure? Is it only little or a bit more ?

[hollow linden]

Extremely little

I wasn't even aware it did that

All you need to do for supply is motorise it, build rails and hubs, sometimes ports if applicable

That's really it

[dusty sandal]

the wiki says 0.01 but I'm pretty sure they buffed it since a while, will try to find the patchnotes

[hollow linden]

Anything else is too expensive or too ineffective to matter

[hollow linden]

OK so it's 500 planes per supply now. Yay

So much better 😭

[oak jasper]

That would be 50? 0.02 supply per plane means 50 planes per supply.

(0.01 would be 100 planes per supply)

[hollow linden]

I'm not good with math

I just push the buttons I don't know how this works 😭

I click I see green

That's all I do

🐒

[dusty sandal]

my bad, misread

it was 0.002 they pushed it to 0.01

[hollow linden]

6000 hours, ladies and gentlemen

[dusty sandal]

you need 100 transport, to be fully supplied, full efficiency to get 1 supply

[hollow linden]

So per airfield it's 20 supply. But then you'd also need to make 2000 transport planes

Which is more expensive than a hub oh and don't forget the airfield

[dusty sandal]

each plane being 38 ic, that's a flat 3800 ic per 1 supply

[hollow linden]

Yea thats more than 20k base IC

Also CIC is not production so you don't waste your production on supply, just your CIC

[dusty sandal]

a supply hub is 15000 with a base 15 supply from lvl 1 connection (rail or river) which means you'd need 57 000 ic in the form of planes to reach this capacity

[subtle thorn]

recommend country to play in hoi4 w all dlc guys

[oak jasper]

0.002 would be comical. 0.01 means you can supply roughly a 30W infantry division per wing.

I'd say transport air has its niche in keeping your spearheads supplied during rapid advances, but there may still come times where you need to just sit in place for a few months while you build another supply hub. The biggest advantage of transport air is that if it's not shot down, the biggest chunk of the cost (the transport planes) is mobile.

[oak jasper]

The usual advice I've heard is "Germany teaches you a lot".

[dusty sandal]

to be fair, when supply was 0.002 each supply plane used to cost 4ic, a little more than aa1

[subtle thorn]

umm i dont need to teach me i want intresting country to play i already did win as germany

i mean i finished off the comitern and allies

[sinful mist]

play as germany and make everyone go communist on game rules

[hollow linden]

That's how it used to be after nsb lol

[subtle thorn]

so just inflencing everyones politics?

[dusty sandal]

some mods make it worthwile like TFB which slightly buffs them and pair it with larger fuel capacity in divs so that they can be useful
the lower killrates of planes is also important since, in vanilla, transports will get shredded under yellow air or even under 15% enemy air

[sinful mist]

yea make the game hard ai is just stupid, go on the game rules and just make everyone go communist or something else you want to do

[hollow linden]

Play Russia, max buff axis

[subtle thorn]

AHAHHAHAAHA damnn

[hollow linden]

What

It's simple

I did the no step back achievement on max buff ger and elite diff

Because Russia is rather simple

[subtle thorn]

i will but i hate this purges i played ussr like 3 times till now i have about 300h

should i make everyone and the allies communist as ussr?

[sinful mist]

u cant do achievement with buffs

[dusty sandal]

I did it with tanks only, they never even pushed a single tile in poland 💀

elite diff is so ass though imo, they could at least make ai "smarter" instead of just nerfing you

[hollow linden]

Then it was probably just elite I don't remember

[hollow linden]

I mean, debuffing yourself into outer space is the only way you give the AI a fair challenge

But ye it's not fun

I'd rather have a fair fight

[sinful mist]

ai is good as it is right now, the hard part is just ai spamming divisions everyone, u cant make the game harder for new people, and thats why we have multiplayer

[hollow linden]

What

AI fking sucks

[dusty sandal]

I want an AI like World Ablaze's

[hollow linden]

It's so dumb

[sinful mist]

its called AI what do you expect?

[hollow linden]

The only reason pdx isn't making it harder is because people would complain

[hollow linden]

Yea and

Theres sheep mod

Which makes it smart

[dusty sandal]

me when I look at german designs in 1943 and see 1936 airframe with light MG and engine 2

[sinful mist]

sheep mod recodes the ai it doesnt make it smarter

[hollow linden]

I didn't exactly define smarter

What are you on about

[sinful mist]

it just gives the ai different logics to go based, includind meta divisions and the game is not supposed to be played "meta" which the basic ai doesnt understand

[hollow linden]

So makes it harder

[subtle thorn]

Wait do you get debuffs if you put all of your div as major on only 2 commanders?

[hollow linden]

It makes more logical choices

Making it harder to play against

That's my point

I don't care about the semantics of what makes AI "smart"

You're missing my point

[sinful mist]

no it doesnt, its the same AI but with different logics, it just makes better divisions templates and economy choises

[hollow linden]

Dawg

We agree on this

I don't care about semantics

What are you on about

U know what I mean

Jfc

[dusty sandal]

it makes AI macro (so much) better, but doesn't really affect Micro

[hollow linden]

Kind of

Sheep AI micros sometimes

[dusty sandal]

well it does but not by much

[hollow linden]

Or makes better choices where and when to attack

[hollow linden]

It's Still something

[dusty sandal]

they just don't run headfirst into obvious traps basically, and try to pincer

but yeah, it's something and it's good

[hollow linden]

That's something

I get my thunderdome yaaay

[sinful mist]

well thats not true, ai still battleplans to shits

its way more agressive than vanilla ai

[subtle thorn]

do i get penalty if i put like 100 div to 1 commander instead of 24 div

[hollow linden]

Yes

[hollow linden]

Have u played sheep mod lol?

[subtle thorn]

wich penalty

[hollow linden]

It doesn't battleplan the entire front when it knows it can't win

[subtle thorn]

planing or?

[sinful mist]

yes and its not hard ai is still stupid

[hollow linden]

The stats the general gives are factored

[hollow linden]

I'm inclined to not believe you

[sinful mist]

do the german civil war and just sit there waiting ull see

[hollow linden]

Define "stupid"

[subtle thorn]

why they do that in mp then?

[hollow linden]

In relation to what

It is much better in vanilla AI

So it is better than that

[hollow linden]

Because when you have 500 inf the stats don't matter

[sinful mist]

ofc its better it was made to be better but its still bad

[hollow linden]

It's not worth the hassle

[hollow linden]

Bad in relation to what

Again

Do we have a better AI

Hard shouldn't mean unbeatable

It is beatable

That doesn't mean it's not hard

[glacial steeple]

it was good for 1 patch

[glacial steeple]

its BAD

havign transport wings up costs command power so youre always airplane capped, its a TON of investment and cant supply a decent amount of units even then

[fiery heart]

Is it possible to get a tank force out by 1939 as austria

[dusty sandal]

yes but there are so many variables in that statement

[hollow linden]

What a question

Start simpler, do you really need tanks as Austria. Or, is it even that useful to have tanks?

Austria is typically an inf nation because it starts very small

So maybe stick with that

Any tanks you make heavily impede your amount of inf and might not even be that good to begin with

That said, tanks are really expensive

Hence maybe not the best thing to get as a minor nation

[fiery heart]

I did and it backfired hard when i have a run i managed to unite the austrian empire to me however when german demand sudedan land i said i declared war it was good due to Czech bunkers and the def buff however when they declare war on poland it gets dicey and no france and britain support

Idk why they remove there gurantees when italy did not remove theres

[hollow linden]

Well, make more inf

Making tanks and having less inf, won't help

U need more inf

[lyric geyser]

Yes but if you do make tanks I recommend to make sure you have Czechs and Hungarians annexed so you have resources and factories for tanks and also to build medium spgs as they are more resource light and give good soft attack, but inf is better for your country overall tbh

[fiery heart]

What template you would want me to build tried to build like 18 witdth template with 3 artillery that woudnt work i might go 24 width with 3 artillery pieces

[hollow linden]

Oh god

Ye don't do that

Artillery is ass

Maybe don't make the large ones, but the small ones are good

[fiery heart]

I just need a huge soft attack my problem is like air issues since by the entire duration of my war im on red air.

[vital plinth]

Hey what was the conclusion about the transport planes were they bad in the end ?

[lyric geyser]

Put aa in your divs it reduces cas damage by like 75% I think? Around that number tho

[hollow linden]

Yes.

[hollow linden]

Above 10.5 it's 75% reduction, yes

[scenic nacelle]

Isn’t this really fuel dependent

[hollow linden]

For the big ones ye

But like Austria has some fuel

[scenic nacelle]

Out of fuel in a month 🔥

[hollow linden]

Not really?

It's not that much

[fiery heart]

Can I ask should I give the germans the sudedan lands or resist??

And wait them till they declare war on poland??

[hollow linden]

Uh sure

But form Austria Hungary before that

[fiery heart]

Yes i did i have a strat for that my issues is when the german demand the sudedan land and I fight the germans the allies never join the war so I was thinking if I let the germans attack poland i lose italy gurantee they become germany ally but the allies will join the war.

[hollow linden]

I mean, you could just beat Germany by yourself

Germany is so weak without Austria

[fiery heart]

So i use those template ill break out the sudedan lands I might need to grab the attack general before they begin demanding the sudedan lands

[stuck garnet]

Why so many suppory companies?

Why logistics?

[fiery heart]

Agreed i can rush land ground experimental lab but getting the flame tank is no bueno

In 1938

[hollow linden]

Because they're good

[hollow linden]

Because it's good

[stuck garnet]

But like

Arent logistics for heavy consumption units like tanks?

[hollow linden]

Well yea. Doesn't mean it's bad in inf

Means you can stack more per tile

Supply is scarce

It's easier to make support equipment than making new hubs or rails

Esp if you have like 400 of these

[glacial steeple]

if you dont have fuel you dont have special projects

youll be fine

[stuck garnet]

Question

[hollow linden]

You may ask

[stuck garnet]

Is this optimized for a certain type of terrain?

[austere roost]

I doubt you need logistics if you're doing all inf

[stuck garnet]

Mountains are 50 + 25

And forests are 60 + 30 (?) Yeah?

[carmine thunder]

Is it still possible to get a soviet general like zhukov into power in the soviet focus tree? If it is I cant find it

[austere roost]

Esp if you're in Europe

[lyric geyser]

Inf spam still takes lots of supply

[austere roost]

If you can get flame tanks it would be much better to get a flame tank

But if it's no projects I think you should leave it blank

Unless you really can't upgrade your logistics network

[hollow linden]

Never was?

[austere roost]

Save your ic

[fiery heart]

Ill try to rush land ground lab for the flame tank on 1937

For austria

[dense stone]

Could anyone please reccomend from what source I should learn what best doctrines(sub ones too) are? I can't seem to find any good one myself

[austere roost]

Idk if that's optimal for austria

Since flame tanks only boost stats in the offense

[hollow linden]

Funfact: u don't need to produce flame tanks to get the buff

[austere roost]

Just pick gbp or sf with sub doctrines that match what you want to produce

[austere roost]

I thought PDX fixed it?

[hollow linden]

Not with flame tanks

Funnily enough

[austere roost]

Classic pdx

[fiery heart]

I just need a template or something to break out the sudedanland and rush the rhineland

[austere roost]

If you can pull it off then it's great

But you need to guarantee you have enough troops to hold the line first

[fiery heart]

I do have gurantees is just that when the auchluss is over the allies just book and hung me out to dry france, britain and america the only one left is italy

The most useless ally

Sighh ill just not form the central powers when the germans are done auchluss focus

[idle arch]

<@&916727971820240976> easiest german general to grind

[subtle thorn]

Do i go desprerate defense as ussr for 5% mp or mission type tatics for units

[glacial steeple]

bohme

[subtle thorn]

wdym

[subtle thorn]

casey

[idle arch]

Would he be hardest he's only lv2 even with 8 attack

[subtle thorn]

Do i go desprerate defense as ussr for 5% mp or mission type tatics for units @glacial steeple help out

[glacial steeple]

lower level less traits is always easier

[glacial steeple]

just use one all of them besides intervention are good

but grand assault is meta

[subtle thorn]

i meant

[subtle thorn]

for subdoctorine

[glacial steeple]

yes

[subtle thorn]

operations

[glacial steeple]

all of them are good in operations

besides intervention

[glacial steeple]

.

[subtle thorn]

how does the soviet manpower work

i have 160k left

with limited

[glacial steeple]

if you want more then up the conscription law

[subtle thorn]

i mean whats the red army -10%?

[austere roost]

Red army gives a lot of negatives in the beginning

You need to do some of the mil focuses to fix it

But it also gives -10% pp cost for changing conscription

[idle arch]

Better to rush pcdi focuses military focuses are usless

[subtle thorn]

yea but when i use another conscription it says -10% red army or more

and also the politburo

[austere roost]

Yeah cuz you spend 10% less when changing conscription laws as ussr

[subtle thorn]

aha okay

do the penalty hurt me much

[austere roost]

Depends on you

Your goal as ussr in normal playthroughs is to build up your nation to be able to defend against Germany on 1941.06

[night obsidian]

hey quick question abotu the Mios... so i notice when i update them myt production line decides to update the tanks and not build more, shoudl I not update the mio's in early game?

[austere roost]

You should update

Just build the latest version

[night obsidian]

it converts instead of builds though

[austere roost]

Then stop the converting

You're not required to convert

[austere roost]

Are they 1 inf divisions?

[idle arch]

U mean 2 witdhs no

[glacial steeple]

when converting it also converts tanks with out of date MIO upgrades

which is so low cost it can have integer overflo

w

[scenic nacelle]

thats literally the screenshot i gave u 😭

[glacial steeple]

give better screenies smh

[boreal hamlet]

I just did a change government and took resource rights. I'm playing as Japan but the resource rights were assigned to Spain

[night obsidian]

i think im doing something wrong here, im making like 12 tanks a day but all my divisions are saying they have zero medium

[patent drift]

have you added medium tanks into your division templates? go to the recruit and deploy tab and edit the division composition

[night obsidian]

yeah i have because ive gone into the specific division and it says 0/150 or whatever

says i have 800 in stockpile...

says I have 800 in reserve and 3.1k stored...

[patent drift]

1: make sure you have "medium tanks" in the specific division template you want your tanks to reinforce into
2: go to the "equipment" tab and check if the specific type of medium tank you are producing is allowed to reinforce your division

[night obsidian]

is it because i put a support gun on it (i did not set it to art, i set it to regular medium)

[patent drift]

if none of these are the problem, then maybe your supply lines are preventing reinforcement from your stockpiles

[night obsidian]

thats it, thans, for some reason it did something weird

[glacial steeple]

no

[night obsidian]

FIXED, thank you

[glacial steeple]

you set a specific icon to your tanj

tank*

they are NOT cosmetic

[night obsidian]

ahhhhhhh

[glacial steeple]

and will equip themselves based on the division with the matching icon

no icon means all units essentially

[night obsidian]

okay, so dont use those icons basically, thanks

i thought it was costmetic

thanks, just in time for war

[glacial steeple]

ive never had a use in them but maybe you will

its decent for garrison units

so your garrison tanks dont go into other units

[shadow jewel]

why dont i produce nuclear bombs even tho i have 3 nuclear reactors? (playing with RT56 mod btw)

[past maple]

did you research the actual nuke

[idle arch]

But its my save what?

[solid pebble]

What dlc do you need for light tank artillery

[shadow jewel]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[past maple]

😭 ✌️

[misty wagon]

how do i get those?

[storm gyro]

i have a friend that when he has our mod list enabled has the same game version as me with no mods enabled, we've tried just about everything under the sun, anyone have any ideas to try and fix this. i get this is vague and will gladly answer any questions to make it more clear. (cant get same game version with the same modlist)

[misty wagon]

???

[night obsidian]

is it worth even having a 30 width infantry division?

for single player?

[past maple]

either put strat bombs on a heavy airframe or research the intercontinental bombers in the air research facility

[misty wagon]

alr

[misty wagon]

which one of these is it

[past maple]

scroll down bro 😭

[misty wagon]

dont see

[storm gyro]

just use heavy bombers..

[past maple]

this

[misty wagon]

IT SAYS intercontinental

i just wanna launch a nuke damn

[storm gyro]

also you dont need 40 divs in that part of canada, youre killing all ur supply and is prob why u cant push

[glacial steeple]

missiles eventually give you long range options

[storm gyro]

you can nuke with heavy bombers

[neat widget]

do you have improved large airframe unlocked

Yeah...

[misty wagon]

IDK what that even is

wrong reply

[misty wagon]

IDK what that is

[misty wagon]

wdym

[storm gyro]

oh boy

you know about supply right?

[misty wagon]

yes.

[misty wagon]

HOW DO I GET THAT

[storm gyro]

research

[misty wagon]

please i need to nuke washington

research WHAT'

[storm gyro]

bro

improved large airframe

in the air research

its not a special project

[misty wagon]

these?

[storm gyro]

strat bombers

i play RT56 so its called something different but yea, strat bombers

nukes are a strat weapon

[misty wagon]

i alr have them

does first one work

[storm gyro]

get the 1944 ones

[solar robin]

It does work yes, but newer ones are better

[storm gyro]

higher chance of it actually working

[sinful mist]

I mean yea u can easly win

[sudden pasture]

when going for austrohungarian austria, how can i avoid going to war with germany trough the anschluss?

[misty wagon]

why is america so HARD TO DEAL WITH

[storm gyro]

luck

[sinful mist]

u cant avoid if they are fascist

[sinful mist]

you dont have supply

[glacial steeple]

you can use interwar

[storm gyro]

invade in a spot that has supply

[misty wagon]

how.do.i.get.more

[sinful mist]

better navy supremacy so ur convoys dont get intercepted, build more supply hubs on railways or build more harbours

[storm gyro]

upgrade ports in ur invasion and take local supply hubs

[sinful mist]

make sure the harbours are connected to the railways so they can give supply to the supply hubs

[storm gyro]

also dont have 50 divs in the middle of no where canada

[misty wagon]

doing most of the work and 9% lol

insane

[sinful mist]

USA is always hard to invade late game, and canada even more

[misty wagon]

idk if usa navy a thing anymore

[sinful mist]

the main problem may be the amount of division in there, yours and ur allys divisions

[misty wagon]

good?

good thing right

[storm gyro]

you may have more divs but theyre the ones taking land and winning fights

send ur army to the florida pocket and youll have a better time

[neat widget]

Yeah you can use interwar to drop nukes
But for researching intercontinental bomber I think you do need improved

it's definitely that way for motherships

[misty wagon]

my eyes 😭

[errant chasm]

Yep thats end game hoi4 for you

[misty wagon]

i feel so powerful

even tho i just have 30h in the game

i have a master idea im leaving the allies and attack uk and italy to reclaim holy roman empire

so theres more to come hehehehe

yea USA is cooke

[trail topaz]

if canada is the faction leader of a faction with the Usa will that make the enite faction collapse if i get to canada

[misty wagon]

i love this

look at all my troops and it says i have 10% contribution

💔

i do all of that for this 💔

[trail topaz]

i feel you these ais are so greedy when they barely lifted a finger

[misty wagon]

i swear i did everything

alr im so done

time for them all to die

[idle arch]

<@&916727971820240976> how to start ww2 by 1938

[misty wagon]

time to leave allies

[glacial steeple]

click focuses

[misty wagon]

guys to succed my hre, i need to attack the entirety of the allies

aka entire world

should i

[idle arch]

Ye I'm not playing germany again what's the best nation for tanks only like not using inf like a real mp game

[glacial steeple]

uuuhhh

czechs are ok, ussr, france

maybe spain but your MIO is bad

[idle arch]

Ussr how

U need inf to cover front

[glacial steeple]

you can have 150 ish heavy tds out by war

more if doing medium spgs

[idle arch]

But tanks suck at defending no?

[rustic apex]

Okay, Paradox Devs, I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but:

I was in a faction with commie Bulgaria (puppet of the USSR), and they did the Balkan Federation focus. All seemed normal, but then that ate my Yugoslav, Greek, and Turkish collaboration government puppets out of nowhere.
I assume my puppets still got the event to be annexed by them (or whatever), but that shouldn't happen. They belong to ME.

[glacial steeple]

attack

failed to copy second image

its over

this one

[tepid umbra]

No yeah that just happens

[idle arch]

Why are u producing two design resources??

[tepid umbra]

Is this sultanate of aussa

[glacial steeple]

conversion

[glacial steeple]

no its from hawkfox who did a bunch of tank only ussr runs before update

[idle arch]

Wouldn't it make confusing to know the base and based

[tepid umbra]

🥀

[tepid umbra]

The one with less mils and less prod efficiency is the good tanks

[idle arch]

Rokosovky as general,zhukhov as field marshal

[glacial steeple]

cooked

[idle arch]

Rokosovky has better stats than zhukhov no?

[open radish]

yoo, more HP + org + width + less casualities on infntry?

[glacial steeple]

you have like kuznetsov and iirc popov or some other guy

with brilliant strategist

low level

[idle arch]

Who is kuznetstov and why is he so famous and what is brilliant stategist

[glacial steeple]

brilliant strategist is a trait

it gives more attack rolls per level up

you combine it with bold attack so you get more stats

if you have both of those

and the normal 0-1 attack roll per level up

you can get 3 attack points per level up

its why you dont grind high level generals

it takes them forever to level up once and its still RNG

its why germany should always use bohme youre pretty much guaranteed to get those 10 attakc points

for traits, they grind slower the more traits you have

[idle arch]

Which traits should I get for my tank general

[glacial steeple]

and many generals that start with a high level have a bunch of useless traits

[glacial steeple]

ideally commando but its like ungrindable

and stuff like terrain buffs, forest, hills, adaptable

[idle arch]

Cas damage

[glacial steeple]

panzer leader

[glacial steeple]

its like the most busted trait in the game

finland gets 2 of them which means you can have -75% CAS damage globally just from generals

without adding AA/other modifiers

its why i think finland is great practice, it lets you mess with all the good traits

[idle arch]

Wait did u have amtracks in the divs

[glacial steeple]

i think he did because sheeps mod and theyre cheaper

but i forgot

[idle arch]

Is it better to research mech even if its ahead of time

[glacial steeple]

do you want your units to have mech?

[idle arch]

Isn't that the 2nd best to amtracks

[glacial steeple]

yes

but do you want it?

[neat widget]

early anschluss by printing 1/0 infantry, then do sudeten early and then do poland early too

[idle arch]

Yes

[glacial steeple]

then you should research it in time to produce enough of it

its a very simple question

[idle arch]

Oh ok so you only produced tanks and mech then the rest for ur support companies

[glacial steeple]

i didnt do that run im just showing you what can be done

and if you have enough tanks out you dont need infantry

[idle arch]

Oh on this looks super fun also is there a vid for supply

[pearl dirge]

Seemed more like a question slated for this channel than anywhere else, but I'm willing to pay for coaching in HoI IV. I have zero experience in the game and the only grand strat game I know is Stellaris. PM for details.

[coral ingot]

I havent played Hoi for a LONGG TIME, can someone explain the way how I can get naval dominance for operation sea lion, because the old way I used to do it seemingly doesnt work anymore, and the naval system just seems worse

[dark thunder]

What are your guys thoughts on this design for CAS? Rocket Rails almost as good as Bomb Locks on attack but have no agility debuffs

Anti Tank cannons seem to be a joke looking at the numbers

[deft latch]

Wanted to ask to see if I can improve my focus tree order for the USSR. I usually beat the Germans every time with this order but a friend asked why I didn't do the industrial path more which I said there wasn't time and it should be used for other things like the army and airforce. So I wanted to ask if pro USSR players even bother with the Five Year Plan path.

My assumption would be if you go deeper into Five Year Plan, you would not be able to get a proper airforce set up (due to the national spirit debuffs) thus you would want to go into AA. The other side being you do the Red Airforce reforms to get a better airfoce all around.

The encircled portions are what I usually do before and after Barbarossa.

[glacial steeple]

theyre good for maximizing damage per CAS width

[deft latch]

I also usually run these templates, which usually take care of any problem but incase I can improve them I would love the assistance.

-# Notes:
-# I replace motorized with mechanized once I obtain them.
-# I put more armor and engine power on my tanks than in these screenshots.

[oak jasper]

After capitulating Canada: is there any way to let their foreign allies just die in the snow? They're completely cut off from supplies, Canada capitulated, it's February, I don't want to deal with mopping these divisions up.

[light knoll]

change the tank to an spg
remove maintenance company and engineers, you don't want engineers on your offensive units. if possible, get flame tanks and assault engineers. add another battalion to the infantry.

[tepid umbra]

Get to 36 width on the tank divs

Drop the armor stuff on CAS

Add self sealing fuel tanks to fighters

[tepid umbra]

Engis on offensive is fine

Cuz of breakthrough

But other stuff is usually better

[vital plinth]

Can I commente colleaporation goverment after I annexed Soviet ?

Or should I do it before I invade ?

Commence *

[austere roost]

it's because you are wasting time on useless political stuff like the middle and left line of stalin's political path, and you don't need the stalin agitprop portion either unless you're doing some weird stuff. third 5yp is absolutely important because it allows you to get to 43 production line by late 1940/early 1941

you also don't need everything in the right side of the military path but you're missing a lot of useful stuff in the left military path like all the production cap bonuses

also, you are likely wasting a lot of time on the air focuses. you don't need all those focuses to win the air war, just build optimal templates

[austere roost]

you can only build collabs before ussr capitulates

[vital plinth]

I mean commence , I have it prepared before invasion should I commence when war starts ?

[austere roost]

you don't even own any ussr land, how can you set up a collab gov?

you can do that when ussr captiulates

[deft latch]

i assume SPG to destroy the infantry, i ask cuz i never used it before

[vital plinth]

It says I need spy network 50% to commence

After I annexed them

[austere roost]

Have you set up any collabs yet?

If not then let your spies set it up

[vital plinth]

Oh ok I only prepared ((the mission not commenced it

[deft latch]

i did not mean to put the stuff after the purge

i assume thats what you mean by the center and left of stalins path

[austere roost]

You only need to do the right path of the purge

The left and center focuses are useless and a waste of time

[deft latch]

these?

[austere roost]

Use that time on internal affairs and industry

[deft latch]

what about lowering paranoia?

just when i need to?

[austere roost]

Can't read a thing

[austere roost]

Yeah these and behead the snake are the only things you need to do for the purges

[austere roost]

You have the decisions for that, just do the forge production records and purge navy/air

[deft latch]

okey

i suppose im not going to war anyway until 1941

[austere roost]

Here's how you get war economy

Justify on Poland until you get 50 was and then cancel justification or send attache to spain

Both give you 50 ws

[deft latch]

for the military and air paths

i assume based off what you're getting at is i only need lessons of war and military reorganization the most

on the right side

and instead of other shit like experrts in camouflage or adaptable army

do Found the PCDI

and instead of the air trees i should do the five year plan

[austere roost]

Yes

[light knoll]

the AI can't design tanks so hard atk/piercing is basically never relevant in sp. so spg is the best choice since it gives the most soft atk

[deft latch]

i see what you mean

[deft latch]

so just these (not underlining desperate measures cuz thats whne the war starts)

what should i focus on for the PCDI and 5YP?

WAIT, what about the red fleet 8)

@austere roost

?

[small spire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[austere roost]

left side is better than right side for 5yp

and why do you need the red fleet?

ussr doesn't need navy, you can just rebuild your navy after the war if you want to fight allies

[deft latch]

im trolling

:)

[deft latch]

these focuses then?

[austere roost]

yeah

restoration and development happens immediately after you win germany

[deft latch]

oops

@austere roost so what about the PCDI tree

i have NEVER done it in my life

so i have no ability to speak

[austere roost]

just do the ones that you want

you should finish the ones that give you prod cap

and tankograd is nice

[deft latch]

thoughts?

[light knoll]

you need military engineering academy yo do the research slot focus

[deft latch]

oops

[lament quail]

russia has a wargoal on me and has taken the other 2 baltic states, but I managed to secure a nonagression pact which can only be cancelled in november 1941(it is april 1941 right now). how do I prepare?

(I can receive foreign support in the above forms)

I can also build the eastwall

which gives forts on the 4 provinces that make up the latvian-russian at the start of the game

[deft latch]

do you agree with Olive about 36 width tanks over the 32 width?

[queen agate]

Give up on the western peninsula, a shorter front means a denser front, build level 1-3 forts along the tiles with the highest amount of neighboring enemy tiles, when in war shuffle troops in not easy to defend points. Try to hide behind the river line, put up fighters on interception if you can't win the air war.

[night obsidian]

holy crap i actaully did it.... after like 5-6 retries of playthroughs, i finally defeated the UK

[lament quail]

A focus I did gave me forts on these two tiles south of the river, should I develop these

[queen agate]

Although idk how the victory points are laid out

[queen agate]

Try to keep those tiles, but if pressure is too high don't hesitate on giving em up

[lament quail]

here are latvian vps

most of them are north of the daugava

[queen agate]

yeah give the peninsula up

and hide behind the river line

But I recommend get on all adults serve

I doubt you have the manpower to keep an attrition war

[light knoll]

yes, offensive units should be 36 width

[queen agate]

you can kill 6 soviets fot every casualty you receive and they'll still come out on top

[deft latch]

@tepid umbra @light knoll

[queen agate]

From my experience in the baltics, manpower is a hassle

[lament quail]

Eastwall gives me forts in the two eastern states which I assume looks like this, though it doesnt specify. Should I take the focus?

[deft latch]

do i add more tank to the template then?

[lament quail]

(also here are my divs and manpower

[queen agate]

Personally, I wouldn't since I'd plan to fall back anyways, but it may be worth a shot

[queen agate]

Oh boy

if u want we can go on helping lounge

[light knoll]

yes

[lament quail]

the divs are in the process of being equipped because I just dissolved 6 barely armed ones

i also have a very small # of spgs

[queen agate]

self propelled is really useless

[lament quail]

i thought it was meta

[queen agate]

too expensive for what they give

[lament quail]

ah

so should i switch back to medium tanks orrrr

[queen agate]

I mean I'm not too experienced with the meta, I personally stay away from em

[queen agate]

I would

[ancient mist]

guys please help me why arent the ottoman loyalist arent coming?

[deft latch]

thoughts?

[queen agate]

30-36 width

[light knoll]

just change out tanks to spg

[lament quail]

is this template functional

[queen agate]

hop on helping lounge

[small spire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lament quail]

i kinda cant call

[small spire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[deft latch]

wdyt about planes?

[light knoll]

don't know planes designs

[warm oracle]

bomb locks > rockets i believe

[deft latch]

for infantry

do you think running AT or AA will be better

against Germany

[deft latch]

nothing else?

no self sealing or whatever

[light knoll]

at is completely useless in single player

never even research it

the ai can't design tanks

[queen agate]

Lower the armor a lot, get christie suspension, allat engine ain't necessary, put 3 man turret, close support gun is cheaper, take away the armor skirts and sloped armor

[light knoll]

you should be using cas in green air so they should not be taking damage

[light knoll]

armor skirts is fine

gives breakthrough

[queen agate]

Yeah I add them on later game though

[lament quail]

wym by "allat engine aint necessary", I have 3 different types of engine that show up(Diesel, Gas, Petrol) and they arent numbered

oh i see

[queen agate]

yeah

[lament quail]

then what numbers are optimal

[queen agate]

yes

eh

keep ur reliability around 80%

I don't add much armor, I like more speed

[lament quail]

updated

[queen agate]

take out the fuel drums, remove a lil armor and increase engine, research Maintenance Company 2 for Easy Maintenance

gives u more reliability than Wet Ammo Storage

[lament quail]

is fuel capacity irrelevant?

[lament quail]

i dont have time to research maintenance companty

*maintenance company 2

[hoary glen]

Yes

[lament quail]

see above the time i have before the clock strikes 12, midnight arrives

(metaphorically speaking)

[hoary glen]

Reliability is also fake. Do not care about it. Attack and breakthrough is all you need on Tanks.

[lament quail]

hmm

but im latvia

and cant easily replace my tanks

[hoary glen]

If you need many don't put in so many modules, make them cheap.

Also reliability only does something when you take attrition. So training, deep snow, marsh and mountain. That stuff

[vital plinth]

Hi anyone have a good understanding of navry and producing ships ?

[queen agate]

Oh

nevermind

I missread

thought u said u didn't have to

[hoary glen]

Use Heavy bomb locks. And always do single engine on small frame. This is 50% more expensive without a reason.

[queen agate]

nvm

but that's for the future, for now keep the wet ammo storage

[hoary glen]

What Nation?

[lament quail]

this long even for maintenance 1

alright

[stuck garnet]

hey when i get pp is it better to get advisors to max out my pp gain or just rush mil advisors for exp

[deft latch]

this?

[vital plinth]

Im Greece /byzantine
I’m wondering if a produce basic destroyer but don’t a lot of modules yet can I produce it and get modules edit template will I be able to put that template on the already produced basic destroyer?

[hoary glen]

Single engine and use only quad Heavy MGs

[hoary glen]

Yes. Add self sealing if you plan to use it in yellow air. If you're sure you'll always have green air you can even use wood frame.

[lament quail]

alr this gotta be good

[glacial steeple]

what did i return to

[hoary glen]

Always three man turret, else no break. Also if you notice you're not pushing add more armor

[lament quail]

oops forgot

[hoary glen]

Use quad MGs. Although on the advanced frame I think you need the cannon 2 or how they are called to make it worth it. Also engine 4 at least.

[hoary glen]

A good build will be a few light Cruisers with light attack, building like 2-3 battleships with 3 Guns and rest AA. Do 2-3 SHBB instead with 2 guns and and mix of light and AA if you feel fancy. Else you want a bunch of destroyers with max torpedo slots.

[hoary glen]

Meta templates

[edgy pendant]

Best I can do is camels

[lament quail]

armored div

will this stop russia

[light knoll]

uh

what

[lament quail]

(i am latvia)

[lament quail]

context

[light knoll]

see that number that is your org

[edgy pendant]

RL Russia, probably

[light knoll]

that doesn't exist

[lament quail]

ah

[glacial steeple]

doesnt matter

hp does tho

[light knoll]

i mean both

[lament quail]

how can i increase

[glacial steeple]

org on tanks is irrelevant

if you have 1 org you force attack

[lament quail]

or should I just forget about tanks and build fortifications behind the daugava

[hoary glen]

Better than all those builds with mot

[light knoll]

you should restart your game and take the other Baltics before the Soviets take them

[lament quail]

nonaligned playthrough btw

(ironman)

[light knoll]

pretty sure you have a focus for that

[lament quail]

no

not as military latvia

[hoary glen]

Bro you don't want to lose Tanks but show up with 15HP...

[lament quail]

and I cant do the baltic union eiuther

only form a faction

and that doesnt help me all too much afaik

(does it?)

[glacial steeple]

you can actually go fascist first

and then do military or democracy

[edgy pendant]

blasphemy, mot is the 🐐

[glacial steeple]

its silly

anyway your units are like very bad and your generals suck

so you prob shouldnt do tanks

[lament quail]

i cannot

the military focus

[glacial steeple]

at the start of the game you can

[lament quail]

requires that my ruling party not be fascist

i cant show right now bc ive already completed it

but the "a military dictatorship" focus

has "ruling party is not fascist" as a requirement

[hoary glen]

The only Goat I've ever seen eating rubber and turning it to shit

[lament quail]

i can go military and then switch to fascism

but that just leaves me with fascism

and if i wanted to play fascist latvia

i wouldnt be playing the military directorate that gives me massive nonaligned support

sorry, bit of a ramble, but overall I cannot go fascist and then switch to military dic

[vital plinth]

Ok thx but can I remodify already built ships if it same class but different modify ?

[lament quail]

and as for democratic

[lament quail]

if you meant something else by this then i apologize

[edgy pendant]

You don’t need rubber, fake resource

[hoary glen]

You can refit on same hulls. So you can refit a CL1 to a CA1, but you can't refit a cruiser 1 to a cruiser 2.

When refitting also keep in mind to never change main guns, armour or engine.

Also turn off MIO auto upgrades when refitting or your ships might get stuck in a time loop

[quasi citrus]

guys i havent played in years
are the US congress build missions gone?

[glacial steeple]

yeah it isnt exclusive with fascist

[quasi citrus]

i remember they used to give u build missions but 1.5 years in game now and I got 0 missions

[lament quail]

found it on the wiki

its not exclusive with fascist

but I cant first go fascist

and then switch to military

if you meant it in the other order then yeah, it can be done

but i was trying to end the run as the military directorate

[hoary glen]

I also don't get them anymore. Might be some bug tbh. It's not like they where particularly strong

[lament quail]

and switching to fascism second would be really hard because of the immense nonaligned support buffs I get from the military "path"

i did do the focuses from the fascist path for the bonuses it gives me

[quasi citrus]

:sadge: it was helpful to not run 1-2 lobbies at times
now all my pp is gone 😭

[hoary glen]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-writing-lobster-writes-speech-bubble-stan-twitter-gif-26079717

[glacial steeple]

no that focus is irrelevant you do the one in the middle

merge titles

[lament quail]

thats not military then

thats just the historical path

[hoary glen]

Before the election only click small lobby once before you select your first focus. Allows you to pic federal housing as your third focus. Also you need to do Neutrality act as your forth focus. Guaranteed good election result if you don't meddle with the Congress in more ways.

[lament quail]

thats just the historical karlis ulmanis regime

[quasi citrus]

I see
i will remember this

[lament quail]

not the military directorate which I am playing

as

[hoary glen]

This works specifically in Vanilla. If you play modded the results may vary bc this is checksum depending.

[quasi citrus]

i play without mod

btw also can I ask ppl to join my faction? or is it a lost cause

as USA

[hoary glen]

Do the aggressive Monroe doctrine stuff if you don't want to join the allies

[lament quail]

since i am not taking on russia alone, i will attain foreign assistance. which of these avenues is superior

[tropic seal]

What's a non-major nation that still has a good industry

Like I want to take a break from playing the juggernauts but i also dont want to sit there doing nothing

[lament quail]

it should be noted that britain is fascist and engaged in a war with a faction consisting of these countries

and the czech entente looks like this

(they fought austria and hungary a year ago)

[lament quail]

czechoslovakia

[tropic seal]

Don't I just get instantly annexed by germany on historical

[lament quail]

no

[tropic seal]

oh

[lament quail]

germany demands the sudetenland from you

and on historical

[tropic seal]

does czehoslovakia need dlc to be good?

ive heard people suggest like hungary but that needs gtd

[lament quail]

uh

not anymore

since the "death or dishonor" dlc (which gave czechoslovakia its content) has been integrated into base game

[tropic seal]

oh ok

ill give it a shot then

[lament quail]

keep in mind

on historical

[tropic seal]

Yeah?

[lament quail]

while you dont get instantly annexed

britain and france refrain from defending you from germany

when it asks for the sudetenland

[tropic seal]

Yeah

so I just have to give it up right

[lament quail]

you can (and absolutely should) still refuse and stand up for yourself

[tropic seal]

oh

would they not declare on me

[lament quail]

yeah

but youre pretty strong

[tropic seal]

im pretty bad at the game though

[lament quail]

and if you play an ahistorical path

[tropic seal]

like i have 40 hours playtime

[lament quail]

have you finished a playthrough as germany

winning ww2

and conquering ussr

[tropic seal]

wdym by winning

i got stuck in america

[lament quail]

capitulate france, britain and the ussr

[tropic seal]

i pushed them back to the urals but wasnt bothered to keep going

[tropic seal]

yeah france and britain

[lament quail]

try beating them BEFORE the USA joins the allies

also do you have la resistance

dlc

[tropic seal]

no

why

i was cosnidering getting gtd or nsb as my first dlc

because theyre apparently the best

[lament quail]

ah

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should i just play something like australia

or do they need a dlc

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la resistance's spies allow you to reduce ussr's surrender limit

that is why i was asking

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oh yeah naw that wouldve been helpful

the ussr is hella big with like zero supply out east

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but try to finish a game as germany while having defeated france, britain, ussr, and usa

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with the usa i think i just shouldnt have invaded from canada

i had no supply at all

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yeah

that worked for me

granted, for me it was 1952

because I was nonaligned

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lol i gave up around like 1948

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but yeah, try to finish a germany game by "winning" ww2(aka defeating france, britain, ussr, and usa)

maybe turn on Italy at some point

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ah aight

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bc czechoslovakia (with sudetenland) isnt IMPOSSIBLE to resist the German attack

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i gave up after i realised that non dlc nukes dont actually kill units

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ah

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i capped as france against germany lol i dont think im cut out to defend as czechoslovakia

ill give australia a shot

since like

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alright

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its prety hard to get 'lose'

as australia

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pretty sure their dlc also got integrated into base game

so yeah go ahead

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do you have a good mountaineer div template?

and marines

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nah

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aus doesnt have a high pop so i cant afforrd to roll out brick divs

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i havent played australia so i dont know much

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ah aight

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im also not very good at the game lol

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this is the div temp i was using for france and germany offensively

but like aus definitely doesnt have enough manpower for this right

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i dont think so

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naw man im even worse

This was my tank template

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what tanks are those

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modern tanks

end of the tech tree

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ah

yeah from what ive heard medium spgs are better

because apparently in singleplayer soft attack is more relevant

but idk

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ohh ok

aight thanks i think ill just go with space marines then

they need a lot less mp

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so which of these is better in terms of foreign support against a monarchist russia

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context #1

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context #2

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Woah woah woah

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you could get naval invaded by japan(who will be your main enemy for most of your playthrough on historical)

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Not terrible but you could add more mech

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Anything above 39 width is not good

As then 2 units can't reinforce

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ohh ok

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Imo 8tanks/10mechs is a pretty good template

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i was told to keep it 30w

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By whom

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if i added more mechs it would go over

uh

people in this channel

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They're wrong

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oh

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36w is meta

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oh

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Trust

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ok

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what w should i cut it down to?

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36 width

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ok

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is this a good template for natiosn with not a lot of mp like australia? or nop

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no

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No

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it doesnt conserve manpower

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You want tanks if you are trying to conserve manpower

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oh

ok

so i go tank heavy build?

what template do i use for infantry then

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just normal holder divs?

doesnt have to be special

as australia you should do marines and inf

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18 width with logis

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is there a temp for that

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i dont know how to make a good marines template

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today i learned latvia starts with the most IC out of all baltic nations btw

riveting find

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IC?

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This temp + a few more mech to 36w is good for australia right

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Here

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Are you producing air

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i dont have flame tanks

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wdym

like at all?

or in large amounts

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heres some things

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Making flame tanks doesn't matter

It applies the stat bonus regardless

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it does

you need a facility

australia starts with more dam states than the uk tho

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I don't have those tree units

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just make one day 1

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whatever they are

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Making does not equal researched chat

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What's the div used for?

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Naval invading

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i dont have the first and bottom 2 support units

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rate my 1939 IC