ask-for-help-here

[pliant condor]

if you fail the first time you get to try again

[narrow grail]

Is this focus good?

[vital plinth]

Can air experience only be used for doctrine?

[lament quail]

Where is this from

[pliant condor]

now, suppose that you both find a mediator

[narrow grail]

Belgium

[lament quail]

Vanilla?(no mods)

[narrow grail]

yes

[pliant condor]

if the mediator is the same nation on both sides, there's 25% chance to give all romania

25% chance all to hungary

and 50% for the compromise(northern only)

[narrow grail]

I think usually any focuses towards volunteers to Spain or Ethiopia are bullshit, but Mexico has good one, idk about Belgium.

[dim kraken]

What's the best USSR focus? Like Trotskyists, Stalinists...

[trail topaz]

how can i get this much naval dominance

[lament quail]

Patrol

[dim kraken]

patrol + strike force

[trail topaz]

Yeah but like 9k?

[lament quail]

Secret democratic russia trust

[dim kraken]

secret?

[lament quail]

It’s not a path

[dim kraken]

ive just played with stalinist USSR once

[lament quail]

But I think there’s something you can do to flip democratic

In the fascist path

[dim kraken]

but that's a civil war 100%?

[pliant condor]

if the mediator picks compromise or in favor of you, there's a 80% chance that romania accepts, if they refuse, there's a 67% chance that the mediator would go to war with you to romania(or 50% if they are also at war)

[lament quail]

Yeah

[dim kraken]

or you can do it like with British fascists?

ohhh

[trail topaz]

how can i get 9k naval dominace

[dim kraken]

man russian civil wars are so shi

I've just done Spanish one and it was so cool

war lasted only to 1938

im spanish btw

[lament quail]

Nice

[trail topaz]

i dont think my navy can beat usas and uks

[dim kraken]

just the problem is patton in africa

[pliant condor]

if two different mediators are chosen, then it's even more complicated as both sides can be offers and counteroffers and i don't wanna read the code ahhhh

[dim kraken]

cause I joined axis as neutral

and they're killing me with those tanks

[lament quail]

Yeah every Soviet path except for Stalin (and right opposition) requires a civil war

[lament quail]

What Spain are you?

(Which path)

[dim kraken]

nationalist

yeah

tito paco one

[lament quail]

Franco?

[dim kraken]

tito paco

how we call franco in spain

is a joke

[lament quail]

Ah

[dim kraken]

and yeah its so powerful

I wanna try the anarchists just to know

but I think it's pretty dif

very low stability but so high military support

[lament quail]

I thought the Franco path was mid for Spain

Like

Can’t the Falangists do the same industrial focuses

But they also core all of Latin America

and Portugal

Including Brazil and Lusophone Africa (if Portugal formed Empire of Portugal and Brazil/integrated Angola and Mozambique respectively)

[lament quail]

What buffs do they get

[idle arch]

Done with soviet time for united states

[static gazelle]

how much compliance to core spain as phillipines

?

[sour wadi]

any way to improve my odds?

any specific mediators i can choose?

anything i can do?

bigger army? more manpower in the field, ect

[sour mountain]

yo

[sour wadi]

diplomatic pressure?

[sour mountain]

can someone pls come vc

rq

why cant i nuke this region

?

i have planes here

[glacial steeple]

the planes needed (strat bombers/missiles) dont have enough range

but also crop your screenshots less

its very hard to read screenshots which are heavily cropped

[sour wadi]

alr, so bigger army is 1

any specific mediators?

i need all of transylvania

also does bigger mean numbers, or manpower

strength*

[vital plinth]

Hey guys when does Germany take over the Vichy goverment ? Does it at one point attack the Vichy goverment?

[lament quail]

they have a decision to annex Vichy

"Case Anton" or smth

typically they do it when Vichy loses most of its north african land

to Free France

[sour wadi]

btw when i searched it up, it said the focus reintegrate the railroads makes it more likely

[vital plinth]

So I’m playing Greece and own Turkey , I want Syria and Cairo but atm the vicy goverment is up and I don’t think I can handle war with the Allie’s yet , should I wait until later in the historical mode does free France attack Syria ?

[sour wadi]

i assume your playing byzantium?

[vital plinth]

Yup

I’m in axis

[sour wadi]

oh, then your fine

if vichy isnt in the axis

cuz ik vichy is garantueed by germany, but if your in the axis that makes the garantuee useless

if you attack vichy, germany wont war you, they will actually help you if you call them to the war

same goes for any nation that has a garantuee

[vital plinth]

Oh ok I just don’t wanna ruin any history focus that Germany does

Where they cancel something or go off course

[errant pecan]

im trynna do a mitteleuropa/revive the kaiser germany run, should i cancel MEFO?

[lament quail]

yeah

prioritize economic growth is better than the 4 year plan i think

so yeah cancel it

[sour wadi]

nahhh

you'll be fine

[lament quail]

hey im also doing a monarchist germany run, do you have any advice on how to defeat ussr

[sour wadi]

mini encirclements

[errant pecan]

u playing historical?

[sour wadi]

just keep tryna encircle em slowly

[sour wadi]

oh daymn

[lament quail]

what if theyre pushing me

[lament quail]

imma move up to extensive conscription when i have the pp

[sour wadi]

hold at river lines, build up an airforce

[lament quail]

the next river is the oder tho

i have green air

[sour wadi]

thats fine

most of your industry should be at the rhine

[lament quail]

see here

[lament quail]

the soviets have also reached the oder already

and i cant let them take sudetenland

(czechia is also in the war)

[sour wadi]

just focus on holding defendable territory

[lament quail]

ok

[sour wadi]

forests, mountains, rivers and forts

[sudden meadow]

is there a reason my ships wont reinforce

[lament quail]

imma just put my 96 infantry divs on the front

[sudden meadow]

it has it listed for all the ships of that type

[lament quail]

one of my generals just got skilled staffer

[sour wadi]

you only have 96 infantry divs?

[lament quail]

4 armies

[sour wadi]

your germany

[lament quail]

i also have a bunch of puppet divisions that are guarding coast

and 2 paratroopers

[lament quail]

von manstein commands my tank army

[sour wadi]

whats your template?

[lament quail]

infantry?

[sour wadi]

you need more of them

like, alot more

[lament quail]

these are my armor

i just switched from the starting template

[sour wadi]

why not just normal tanks?

[lament quail]

so itll take a bit to reequip

[lament quail]

its better apparently

[sour wadi]

all you need are good mediums

[lament quail]

soft attack is key

[lament quail]

i was using modern tanks

and i can build this

so why not

(its 1946 btw)

[sour wadi]

mate, you need more divisions on the front

the USSR in 1946 is gonna be beefy

very beefy

96 divs just wont cut it

[lament quail]

theyve been at war with japan for 2+ years

[sour wadi]

ye but thats japan

[lament quail]

they fixed their debuffs

they also occupy all of china

[sour wadi]

focus on getting more troops

[lament quail]

sure

[sour wadi]

in 46 you could have 240 atp

[lament quail]

lemme just move up from limited conscription

when i have the pp

[sour wadi]

get some to just hold the front, use your armour to create mini encirclements, try holding key supply areas aswell

[lament quail]

my armor has to reequip first

[sour wadi]

you wanna micro that

btw why do you have only 96 infantry templates?

[lament quail]

i also have 92 divs of puppet slop

[sour wadi]

ye that really wont do much except for ports

[lament quail]

is it worth it to move to the front

or would it js be a waste of supply

[sour wadi]

only if your really desperate

puppet divs arent very good at all

especially against the soviets

[lament quail]

fair

[sour wadi]

focus on holding and building up

[lament quail]

alr

[vital plinth]

Ok thx appreciate it 👍

[sour wadi]

is finland gone?

[lament quail]

no

theyre my puppet

i ensured finnish loyalty

through the focus tree

[sour wadi]

okay good

[lament quail]

i also have all of africa(except liberia)

and the east indies

canada and the guyanas united too

[sour wadi]

when you start to push, have some troops in finland and push here

[lament quail]

i see

[sour wadi]

the top cuts off russian supply lines

isolates leningrad aswell

and encircles alotta troops

due to their large borders

[lament quail]

you mean in murmansk?

[cold garnet]

At the moment SPG is cheaper, faster, has more attack stats

[lament quail]

thank you for explanation

[sour wadi]

i havent heard that, cheers

[cold garnet]

Medium SPG is 20% cheaper than normal med

[lament quail]

how much cheaper than modern tanks

(i have those)

[cold garnet]

Light SPG is 33% cheaper than normal light

[sour wadi]

yee the ports in murmansk

[cold garnet]

20% for modern

[sour wadi]

also cut off here

[cold garnet]

Cuz they use fewer tanks per battalion

Same base cost but they require fewer

[sour wadi]

only do that if your comfortable in germany though

dont overstrech your lines

[lament quail]

alright

i was thinking of calling in poland and pushing with tanks to lithuania

to make an encirclement

[sour wadi]

also a logistics company may be good

[lament quail]

but that would overstretch my lines

[sour wadi]

your very limited by your low troop counts rn

[lament quail]

yeah i will research that when a slot opens up

[lament quail]

im very limited by my low conscription law rn

[sour wadi]

did you do the alt german focus's that give more recruitable pop?

[lament quail]

these?

[sour wadi]

theese i think

yeah

[lament quail]

yeah

[sour wadi]

wiat

what are you garrisoning with?

[lament quail]

i think the infantry template? but idk if its mine or the austrian one bc theyre named the same thing

[sour wadi]

change it to max width cav

will save alot of mp and resources

[lament quail]

wym max width cav

like make a cav division and just add as much cavalry as possible

?

[sour wadi]

yes

the more width a division has, the less is needed to garrison an area

[lament quail]

should i use camels

[sour wadi]

just use cav

[lament quail]

i can use camels for some reason

ok

[sour wadi]

keeps it simple

or armoured cars

armoured cars are better, but cost alot more

[lament quail]

a lot more of what

[sour wadi]

upto u if u wanna produce armoured cars and garrison w em, it just takes alot alot

[lament quail]

yeah imma stick with horse

[sour wadi]

so it'll take time to get as many as you need

[lament quail]

this good?

[sour wadi]

ye

if you want more suppression, add military police

but it isnt nececsary

[lament quail]

alr

i dont think i have military police researched anywyay

[coarse finch]

You can save 95 xp by going with a single cav

If you're not using military police

[lament quail]

im not short on xop

*xp

well now i am

[sour wadi]

ehh hes changing it for the MP

[coarse finch]

Still better to spend it on something useful

[lament quail]

saved it already

[sour wadi]

cheaper XP wise, more mp if you just have a brick of cav

[coarse finch]

He doesn't even have military police yet

[sour wadi]

mil police aint neccesary?

i only use it if i really need it

[coarse finch]

Then 1 cav is fine. No need to waste 95 xp for no gain at all

[lament quail]

im also boosting nonaligned ideology in luxembourg

so i can later get them in mitteleuropa and annex them

[coarse finch]

You only need to fill it out with cav if you use military police

[lament quail]

to form the eu

is this good plan

[sour wadi]

ye

more mp if you form

[lament quail]

i cant orchestrate coup unfortunately

bc they have only one state

but they can flip if they reach >60% nonaligned support irght?

*right?

[sour wadi]

im not certain

i think so?

[lament quail]

well there's only one way to find out

anyway, time to try and hold back the ussr

while japan sits and does jack

i should hide my southernmost troops in the sudeten forts right?

[humble oriole]

how do i make hirohito the leader of japan

[lament quail]

hey wait a minute

"The Chrysanthemum Throne" focus

[humble oriole]

😘

hes the best option, right?

[lament quail]

yeah i think so

[lament quail]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-496833742737182965

icu

[humble oriole]

jeffrey

[lament quail]

how do i grind up rudolph kissler to level 8

for the achievement

"by merit alone"

the infantry is not holding

[sour wadi]

retreat to the odor and the sudeten

[lament quail]

the oder has been breach

[sour wadi]

use strategic redeployment

[lament quail]

ed

[lament quail]

whats that

[sour wadi]

make a fallback line

[sour wadi]

it makes your units use raillines to go fast

to get to where they want to go

this is the line id aim for

also scorch the earth while you retreat

[lament quail]

are the tank divs ready to rejoin the fight

[dusty sandal]

no

[sour wadi]

train em abit, i wouldnt fight w greens

[dusty sandal]

check what equipment they're missing

[dusty sandal]

that doesn't matter much if they have good base stats tbf

[lament quail]

literally only med sp artillery

[sour wadi]

ehh just abit of an instinct from me

[dusty sandal]

it's singleplayer. What is of worry is the 70% strenght

[lament quail]

they have everything but the med sp artillery

[sour wadi]

abit of a pet peeve to fight w greens

[dusty sandal]

then no, they're not ready to fight

[light knoll]

lmao

[sour wadi]

unless its like, really desperate

[lament quail]

bc i converted from modern tank divs

[sour wadi]

consolidate them

[lament quail]

already did

[dusty sandal]

because that's where the stats come from
No SPG ? no stats. Simple as

[light knoll]

tanks without tanks in them are just bad infantry divisions

[lament quail]

they were converted from modern tanks and i just began producing sp artillery

medium sp artillery

[dusty sandal]

disband a few of them or wait for long enough for you to have some stockpile of medium SPG

[lament quail]

consolidating would give me a single division with no spg

[sour wadi]

bro has the council helping him out rn

[dusty sandal]

also note that such unequipped divisions take a speed penality. Their speed will be capped, down to 4km/h if the lack of equipment is too high

[sour wadi]

we are his generals giving him advice

[light knoll]

you don't need more than a few of them in the beginning. they're not supposed to fill your frontline, you're supposed to make a breakthrough and encircle enemy divisions and kill them off with them

[dusty sandal]

don't consolidate, or only consolidate 2 divs per 2 divs (it'll cut your divs in half)
best thing to do here is simply delete a few

[sour wadi]

use your navy to convoy raid them

[dusty sandal]

go down on trucks bro

[sour wadi]

kills some supply atleast

[sour wadi]

HOLY THATS ALOTTA TRUCKS

you can just stop producing trucks </3

[dusty sandal]

you should use as many mils as you can on the tanks, not waste 50 factories on trucks and another 50 on arty

[light knoll]

you probably don't need that much aa and arty

[dusty sandal]

like, 2 mils on arty would be enough for the whole game
5 on trucks too

[lament quail]

but doesnt it say that im missing a few

[dusty sandal]

5 on AA

that's straght up 140 mils you save up for more tanks

[sour wadi]

check your logistics

[dusty sandal]

these are to be replaced

recently lost, it takes time to reinforce divs

[sour wadi]

ye

[dusty sandal]

look at the stockpile view

[sour wadi]

i couldnt find the proper name for it

here

[dusty sandal]

it must be horrific from the looks of it. You must have hundred of thousand of useless equipment out there

[sour wadi]

GAH DAYUM

[lament quail]

is this a lot

[sour wadi]

yes

[dusty sandal]

all those that have huge stockpile, you straight up go down to 1 factory

[pliant condor]

that's austria hungary

[pliant condor]

no this is guarantted from historical plan trigger

[dusty sandal]

everything else on tanks and good planes

[lament quail]

how much is huge?

[pliant condor]

none of them modify the probability

[lament quail]

just got improved small airframe

[pliant condor]

you have to go through the mediator in historical

and the mediator picks options with 25/50/25 probability roughly

[sour wadi]

is there anything i can do to improve my odds of making both the mediator want to give me all of transylvania, and if romania accepts?

[dusty sandal]

anything that would take years to grind out
like trucks, guns, support eq, useless AT, aa, arty

And start producing mech already

[light knoll]

all of them

[sour wadi]

anything at all

im desperate

[pliant condor]

no

[sour wadi]

</3

[light knoll]

even on inf equipment you can go down

[pliant condor]

being in their faction increases their chance wanting to be a mediator in the first place

[sour wadi]

i usually just improve relations w france

they normally accept

[pliant condor]

also romania not being on balkan dominance

[pliant condor]

it has nothing to do with relations

[pliant condor]

but that is also guaranteed by hist focus

[sour wadi]

🤷‍♂️

[lament quail]

i dont have it researched, and i have things to research before mech(e.g. advanced planes, engines iii, improved artillery/aa, etc.

(i think)

[sour wadi]

how do you check the code?

where can i do that

for the future

[pliant condor]

so in general the method is this

you first search for the focus

then look at the event that the focus triggers

track down the events

[dusty sandal]

arty and AA can wait

[pliant condor]

focus is in commons/national_focuses folder

events is in a separate event folder

use like vscode or something so you can search easily

[lament quail]

so after heavy bombs i research mech?

[pliant condor]

this is the most cursed research ive ever seen

how on earth does advanced small airframe line up with engine 3

[lament quail]

its 1946

i forgot to get this so im getting it now

[sour wadi]

in all fairness, he has air dominance

idk how

but he does

[lament quail]

max aa in all cores

built

is this better military factory

use

[sour wadi]

id honestly get a second row of medium sp arti

[lament quail]

oh yeah

i can do that

take factories out of where

tho

[sour wadi]

fighters and cas

you already have air superiority

and a huge stockpile of fighters

[dusty sandal]

just keep the CAS line up, it's never bad

[lament quail]

im starting to lose it

i think?

at least it says so

[sour wadi]

by the time you loose air superiority, they will have no fighters lol

[lament quail]

its the soviets

[sour wadi]

thats how many you have saved up

[lament quail]

(and sinkiang)

[sour wadi]

plus you'll hopefully have way better fighters by then

[light knoll]

no point in having 150 factories on shitty fighters

[lament quail]

i just got improved airframe

[sour wadi]

a good template is max heavy mg, armour, fuel tanks tanks and self heal

[sour wadi]

abit useless if you dont have the adequite engines

[light knoll]

you need heavy mg

[lament quail]

alright

where do i get self sealing fuel tanks

[lament quail]

alright ill do that research later then

hows this production

[sour wadi]

should be fine, tbh with your stockpile any production would be fine lol

just work on getting troops really

[lament quail]

well then

[sour wadi]

as germany in 46, id honestly suggest 240 inf

one army to hold the north, the other to hold the south

[lament quail]

you mean 240 infantry divisions?

or is 240 a stat in the template i must have

im new to this part of hoi

[sour wadi]

divisions

[lament quail]

i see

wait but isnt one army 24 divs

[sour wadi]

yeah

[lament quail]

(30 with skilled staffer)

[sour wadi]

120 per army

[lament quail]

wont the generals' buffs be severely cut down then?

[sour wadi]

why?

get 2 generals

1 army group holds the north, another holds the south

[lament quail]

ohh

you meant field marshals

gotcha

should i put kissler in the north or south

[sour wadi]

ye, mb i always forget the name

either, you wanna get to moscow tho

but focus on that once your in russiian territory

[lament quail]

this guy with 30 divs, should i keep him to the north or south

also im scared that if i reshuffle my divisions right now the soviets will take the sudetenland

[sour wadi]

hold at the sudeten

[lament quail]

i am at the sudeten; if those divisions move, won't the soviets move in to occupy

[sour wadi]

dont move em then, manually move the divisions not on the sudeten, and use a fallback line

[lament quail]

like so?

and then manually move every division

[sour wadi]

well just move em outta combat

so click a unit in combat that isnt on the line, and right click a tile next to them not being attacked

that forces them to get outta combat

then, use strategic redeployment

so they go to that line

then change it to a normal field commander line

also your gonna need to micro the front abit probally

[lament quail]

field commander line?

like a defensive line?

[sour wadi]

front line

the thingy you were using before

mb, im bad at names

[lament quail]

no problem, i rely on the official names of things to find them when I dont already know what ppl are talking about

also how do I micro defending a front

[sour wadi]

pretty simple, when your troops are set up you look at where is winning, and where is loosing

then you pull a few troops away from nearby battles that are pretty solidly winning, and put em on the loosing battles

or if there is a tile that isnt in battle nearby, even better

move a troop or two to the loosing battle

[lament quail]

alr

btw is brauchitsch optimal here

(i dont have the offense guy

this is what fritsch does

[sour wadi]

ehhh you need to focus more on defending,

so speed isnt too important here

[lament quail]

alr

after i get extensive conscription, should the next 100 pp be spent on beck or fritsch

(beck gives +8% org)

[hexed meteor]

battle of guam

i invaded bangladesh to get some more land before the war with america and then bangladesh JOINED the american alliance

luckily i have pre-planned naval invasions so the pppacific should fall

[lament quail]

is this ncns

[pliant condor]

get the offense guy then

but this guy is not bad

10% planning is less attack but more breakthrough than 10% attack

[devout lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-sin-forgiveness-man-flies-backwards-rizz-man-dies-gif-4887868901641697734

[lament quail]

i would have to do a focus for him, and i cant do foci rn, i need pp to move up from limited conscription

also

[lament quail]

does the artillery attack and defense apply only to artillery divisions

or does it work on my medium sp artillery

or just towed artillery

or what?

bc these types of advisors have me very confused

[pliant condor]

how this type of advisor works

go to your division template/division in the field

there's an icon next to the hardness bar

if you hover over it it says the composition of your division

say your div is 9 infantry 1 artillery, then composition is 90% infantry, 10% artillery

so 15% artillery attack would buff the whole division(not artillery specifically, the entire division) by 15% * 10% = 1.5%

sp artillery is tank, not artillery

[lament quail]

does support artillery count

[pliant condor]

no

[lament quail]

ok

so is 100% softness an issue for my infantry template

[pliant condor]

no

it is what it is

the button is on the left of the tank icon

hover over that and you see 100% infantry

[lament quail]

ah

[heady skiff]

So im playing the Ussr and Im trying to Beat Germany for the first time, Currently have 216 of these infantry divs

Is my template bad for the Ussr or not

[neat widget]

halder is best

you don't typically have artillery, but if you do fritsch is nice

[pliant condor]

gun 1 is bad

research gun 2

[neat widget]

true

[heady skiff]

Im using the 3rd gun

[pliant condor]

216 is probably enough but what time is it

[neat widget]

stats didn't update?

[heady skiff]

march 1940

And im producing 100 more divs in the next 200 days

[pliant condor]

make sure you add support anti air

also do you have any doctrine

[heady skiff]

Im using mass assault

[dusty sandal]

offense guy is always the best, except for xpmaxing but that doesn't give anything anymore since doctrine rework

[pliant condor]

no

the real doctrine

infantry and operation

[heady skiff]

Ohh

[lament quail]

my czech and spanish puppets took a tile 🥹

[pliant condor]

make sure you pick and grind it up

[heady skiff]

Im using large unit tatics and rapid domination

[pliant condor]

get large unit tactics and grand assault

[heady skiff]

For the smaller combat width and soft attack

[pliant condor]

yeah that's fine

train your whole army and make sure you have full doctrine

as long as you have anti air in your div you can probably hold

idk why stats are terrible but i guess gun 2 only has so much stat

[heady skiff]

I could declare war on Turkey to grind xp

[pliant condor]

are they not guaranteed

[heady skiff]

And just make them a puppet and not invite them to the war

Yeah by Afghanistan

But like

Thats not rlly any threat

[sour wadi]

oml

i finally got transylvania on a run, and instantly got everything i could ever need

[lament quail]

nice

what was the everything

[sour wadi]

this

as soon as i took transylvania, i could take out yugoslavia easily, then romania

i got slovakia for free, and got burgen land mere seconds before aunchless

aunchluss*

[lament quail]

🔥

nice ukrainian puppet

[sour wadi]

nah, i liberated it

so when the russians come knocking, it aint my problem

[lament quail]

wouldnt it also not be ur problem if you had puppeted it

its not like theyd ask you

[sour wadi]

no cuz puppets someones like to act big

sometimes*

and refuse

no clue why but its happened a few times to me

[lament quail]

i have yet to see that happen in my 2,378.9 hours on this game

[sour wadi]

idk, i think its a besserabia thing

[pliant condor]

sounds like a free russia annex

[sour wadi]

i am NOT that good </3

im fighting the germans soon, i aint tryna fight the ruskies and the krauts

[lament quail]

another question

why are you occupying all of yugoslavia and romania

[sour wadi]

i would puppet yugoslavia, but germany gets a focus to annex them

[lament quail]

why dont you just puppet the member states individually

(e.g. serbia, montenegro, etc

[sour wadi]

well i need croatia

i like having bosnia and slovenia for the borders

[lament quail]

other than croatia

ah

[sour wadi]

and the rest, i just dont wanna risk it

plus, ive got low resistance and high compliance

due to the greater hungary focus

[lament quail]

oh yeah, you have compliance gain

[sour wadi]

combine that with civ and your good

[lament quail]

if youre gonna fight the axis at some point then its probably better to at least release slovenia, montenegro, macedonia, serbia, and romania for smaller front

[sour wadi]

ehhh im just creating a line at the danube

gonna hold at the slovenian mountains, and tht

[lament quail]

alr

[sour wadi]

the danube

[lament quail]

makes sense

[sour wadi]

120 divisions should be enough, right?

[lament quail]

YOOO

i got intel on the soviet divs

finally

its been so long

[sour wadi]

noice

[lament quail]

when they get close enough to my oder-sudetenland line

i can see them

[pliant condor]

puppet is basically always the worst option

especially when you are not fascist

[lament quail]

i think he is fascist tho

[lament quail]

ur fascist right?

if you want to hold on to croatia

then i assume you have a core on it

and only fascist greater hungary can core croatia

right?

[sour wadi]

no?

[lament quail]

oh

oh wait

[sour wadi]

any greater hungary path can

im non-alligned horthy

[lament quail]

only fascist greater hungary can DEMAND croatia through the focus

oh yeah

mb

[sour wadi]

no?

well, i dont think

it usually doenst work, but im pretty sure you can

[lament quail]

only they get access to the focus

[sour wadi]

theese?

[lament quail]

yeah

[sour wadi]

im going down the sister path to the hungary fascist path

[lament quail]

aka horthy

[sour wadi]

im non alligned horthy

[lament quail]

the fascists also get a focus to demand croatia

its off to the right

[sour wadi]

oh

huh

[lament quail]

but if you were fascist it would be there

[sour wadi]

never knew that

mb

[lament quail]

all good

i was also wrong

[sour wadi]

?

[lament quail]

i thought that between horthy and the fascists, only fascist greater hungary could core croatia

[sour wadi]

ooooh

do you think 120 inf divs are good enough to take on germany?

[lament quail]

probably depends on how much they have

which general should i give my new inf army

[sour wadi]

vasily

oop, nvm

johannes

[lament quail]

my puppets managed to push the soviets behind the oder 🥹

do i move up my fallback line

[sour wadi]

yeah

to the river

keep a small line of troops on the sudeten, incase you need to fall back

and start thinking about doing encirclements

[lament quail]

panzers still arent fully equipped

[lunar cypress]

yo- hello everyone! Sorry for bothering ya'll

I've got a really simple question

I made these (5-6 pieces as Germany) and the rest of my army is just this

How would you counter this

so i know what to build next upon this aka how to counter the counter

[vital plinth]

Are heavry figtbers good for interception?

[grave eagle]

Why my troops arent moving...?

(It says without divisions)

And I have like 7 there

[lunar cypress]

Did u research naval invasion

If u did just select army and alt+click on that order

[lament quail]

doesnt italy start with base 6 divisions nasal invasion

*naval

[grave eagle]

Yes I did

[grave eagle]

Im trying

But they arent moving

[lunar cypress]

Huh im not sure

[grave eagle]

im trying so hard to move them

[lunar cypress]

Is it offline or online game?

[grave eagle]

Offline

Cuz right now with the knowdledge I have

[lunar cypress]

Try saving and starting game again

[grave eagle]

I would be invaded in a day

[lunar cypress]

Maybe its bugged

Im not sure

[lament quail]

this is my intel on the soviets, is this normal?

[grave eagle]

Yeah it was bugged I think

[lunar cypress]

Works now?

[grave eagle]

Nope

Im restarting the last save

Until it works

I will try other port

[heady skiff]

When does Germany normally do barb

;-;

[grave eagle]

Hold on

[lunar cypress]

somewhere 1939 june-december

forgot which month

[grave eagle]

there is a max of divisions?

That I can move?

[heady skiff]

Maane my Germany is scared

I have 5M men on their front line

And its almost 1942

And they wont do the focus

[neat widget]

I think you just build a bunch of medium SPG divisions and blast them to death

[pliant condor]

are you trying to fight a player>

[lunar cypress]

SPG?

[neat widget]

self propelled gun

[lunar cypress]

like if you wanted to counter those tanks you would build SPG?

[grave eagle]

Now it says 4 div AND THEY ARENT MOVING

[neat widget]

or specifically self propelled artillery

[grave eagle]

Now I understand why they were useless in ww2

[neat widget]

those tanks aren't hard enough

but you're right, the opponent can replace the motorized with mechanized and now you're better building tank destroyers

[neat widget]

do you have naval supremacy

[grave eagle]

Technically I have the upgrade to invade navally

[neat widget]

Yeah you can

always

but do you have the ships on patrol

for this region you need 375 naval supremacy before you naval invade

[grave eagle]

I dont know man but Germany invaded Albania for me 😭

[lament quail]

japan pulled off a naval invasion and retook korea, how can i help

[grave eagle]

I did shit

[lunar cypress]

im just wondering since i like playing singleplayer - if i moved into multiplayer and saw someone building this

how would i counter it

i havent played multiplayer yet

besides with friends

i just wanna have like a rough idea

or an exact template wouldnt be bad as well

[neat widget]

do you have air supremacy

[lunar cypress]

Yes

cos i normally spam out fighters

[pliant condor]

I think in general, if you want to get better at the game, templates are the less important aspect

like obviously both of them are bad, and I can explain why they are bad

but it doesn't help you as much

[lunar cypress]

yes thats what im trying to achieve, to think what would be great against what

[pliant condor]

this game is not templates fighting each other, after all

it's not about having one template that's better than the enemy winning you the game

most of the times it's probably only marginally and non-causally correlated with winning the game

[neat widget]

Yeah that much is true tbh

[lament quail]

wait

are there statistical differences between fallback lines and defensive lines

[heady skiff]

Why did I ever struggle with barb vro, maybe Ive just got lucky but im literally pushing to Berlin as soon as the war started

;-;

[pliant condor]

it depends on how much you already know but a few things you can do are like playing against this mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3265939166

asking better questions

and talk to people who play mp

[neat widget]

you're getting pushed to berlin?

[pliant condor]

wdym by defensive line?

frontline?

[lament quail]

yeah

[pliant condor]

fallback line is static

if you lose a tile the division would try to get back in there

and it doesn't generate planning

in general only use it to position divisions

not much point is actually using it in combat

[neat widget]

Oof

but yeah that much is true

[pliant condor]

like pretty much the only use case for fallback line is if you want to evenly spread your division on certain tiles(e.g. holding the river, holding supply hubs, whatever) you draw individual fallback lines 1 tile wide on those tiles

and then assign the division to the army with those orders

[lament quail]

ah

[pliant condor]

then the divisions are evenly spread out

or if you want to pull back to a defensive position

then draw fallback line and use railway button

but remember it's a lot worse than microing

[lament quail]

so in this case, where i'm holding against the ussr, I can use a frontline right?

[neat widget]

yeah correct

[sour wadi]

ye

its prefered

[pliant condor]

yes

[lament quail]

alright

[pliant condor]

and draw an arrow so you get planning

[sour wadi]

cuz it means your troops are automatically reinforcing battles

[neat widget]

although with every frontline order you should probably also have an offensive order in case you do need to attack or retake lost territory since that gives planning

[sour wadi]

and lets you stack planning bonus

[lament quail]

thank you my oberste heeresleitung

[grave eagle]

Yo its normal that germany invaded switzerland and hungary proclaimed Great hungary???

[neat widget]

the latter is normal

the former... i don't think so

[sour wadi]

BROTHER

WE ARE FIGHTING THE AXIS

AND YOUR ARSE IS THINKING "hmm, yeah. lets naval blockage HUNGARY"

[neat widget]

i believe it stops them from trading with certain people

[sour wadi]

its me </3

im hungary

[neat widget]

can you trade over water?

[sour wadi]

theese mf's naval blockaided me

[neat widget]

like with, say, peru?

[sour wadi]

no clue, all my trade goes through stalin, lemme check

oml i cant

we are legit fighting the nazi's

[heady skiff]

Do I win ts?

I imagine so

Cus I have WAYYYYYYYY more manpower

And can fight for much longer

Also once D day happens

I can push easiere

[lament quail]

japan stopped being useless and naval invaded shandong, we are so raederback 🥹

[sour wadi]

we're allied :D
naval blockades

[lament quail]

alright my sp artillery is fully fitted

now how should i organize them to push

[sour wadi]

poland is your puppet, right?

[lament quail]

yeah

not in the war tho

and the entire polish-soviet border is stacked w/ soviet troops

hold on

[sour wadi]

a push upto koslin would be good

lotta troops in the north

could stop by posen for supply aswell

then you could use posen as a jumping off point to the polish border

encircling all of that

[vital plinth]

When to use heavry fighters ? Are they good ?

[edgy pendant]

Pretty much almost exclusively good for USA

[neat widget]

there's a lot you need to do to make competitive heavy fighters

[edgy pendant]

Yeah, hence why it’s good for USA

At least for now until they rework USA

[golden swallow]

I can't push Yemen

[lament quail]

at the same time?

(as the northern push

[vital plinth]

I’m Greece

Also what’s air supply is there a way for me to fill the need for it ?

[lament quail]

also

do you only gain benefits from your field marshal if you make a battleplan using the field marshal

[gentle crest]

Is there a point of ever building civs as usa

[edgy pendant]

No

[gentle crest]

Or do you just build straight mils after giant awakes

[edgy pendant]

Infrastructure, research facilities, mils, then refineries if needed

[gentle crest]

Refineries are almost always needed as USA

[edgy pendant]

Not in sp vanilla really

[gentle crest]

I mean yeah but theres no reason not to build planes in sp

Unless u wanna just trade

[pulsar beacon]

no

[edgy pendant]

Still build planes you just don’t need 200 mils on them like in mp

[pulsar beacon]

make sure you get inf in nevada first then build air facillity to get jets

[gentle crest]

Yeah ofc

[edgy pendant]

Yeah, build on the Hoover dam

[pulsar beacon]

if you put like 20-30 on a jet heavy fighter you will never have red air

[gentle crest]

I usually build a land warfare facility in nevada

[pulsar beacon]

nah thats med priority

air is more important

[edgy pendant]

Yeah, sp really makes no difference tbh

[gentle crest]

Thats true

[pulsar beacon]

real

in mp if you ever play its always required to do that cause ur bsically a plane factory for the allies

[gentle crest]

ik

[edgy pendant]

Plus if you’re playing serious in mp you use plane conversion anyways which saves a ton of resources

[gentle crest]

Thats so much macro

[pulsar beacon]

nah its not that bad

[gentle crest]

Its cancer

[pulsar beacon]

america semi braindead in mp imo

[edgy pendant]

Eh, just do the tech which you naturally do with tools now and make sure you make slightly more of the empty refit than the actual plane

[pulsar beacon]

if you know industry well

[gentle crest]

I lowk forgot how to do plane conversions

How do you do it again

[edgy pendant]

Just gotta make sure the different lines have the same efficiency too

[heady skiff]

How do I break the Front lines ;-;

[lament quail]

take crimea I think

[heady skiff]

I cant rlly

[lament quail]

italian divs too strong?

[heady skiff]

They have like 3 tanks

And a bunch of inf

And I dont see it as too worth it to take it back

[lament quail]

you could use it to gain naval dominance in the black sea

then naval invade thru bulgaria

?

[heady skiff]

Nvm I just took it lmao

[lament quail]

👍

[heady skiff]

Germans left 🥹 ✌️

[lament quail]

amazing

[heady skiff]

Now the other SLIGHT issue

Of the entire frontline

With the Germans being a stalemate

Because allies cant D day

Well

They dont WANT to D day

[lament quail]

try naval invading through bulgaria

also you could take out southern schleswig

[heady skiff]

Nah

[lament quail]

naval invasion trap for you to grind german casualties?

[heady skiff]

There is like 10 German tanks stacked on it

[lament quail]

if not then why not

oh

welpity welp welp

[heady skiff]

And its over a river

[lament quail]

try naval invading bulgaria

or you could make a d-day at home

and naval invade normandy yourself

"if you want something done right, do it yourself"

[heady skiff]

I mean im kinda running low on extra man power

[lament quail]

as the soviets?

what is conscription law

[heady skiff]

I have 7M men in the field vro

Service by requirement

[lament quail]

do you have any puppets to siphon men from

alternatively you could pull away some of your divisions from the front

[oblique fiber]

do collab governments only give compliance on the nation's core states or everything that they own?

[heady skiff]

I LOWKEY just realised I had 2M extra man power ;-;

[lament quail]

👏

[heady skiff]

Time to make 100 more divs and invade normandy

:P

The joys of 300 Military factories

I can make like 100k guns in 20 days

🥹 ✌️

[vital plinth]

Hey in my current trade law I’m getting 23 factories but have to use 32 to fill reassouces. Any idea if I should go from free trade to focused export ?

[heady skiff]

Sooooooooooooo slight issue with this actually

I have a REALLY bad navy

[lament quail]

Uh

How’s your Adriatic fleet

And if that’s bad too, then just build dockyards somewhere ig

[heady skiff]

Almost none existant

[lament quail]

Ah

[heady skiff]

Wait maybe allies ACTUALLY PULL OFF A SUCCESSFUL D DAY???

[lament quail]

Maybe?

[glacial steeple]

hi chat

[lament quail]

Hola

[heady skiff]

Nvm

[glacial steeple]

are you glazing the vanilla ai

most of their units suck

they cannot choose generals and sometimes are inequipped

[heady skiff]

Vro I dont have good tanks ;-;

I probably should

But

[lament quail]

soviet front from yesterday

[glacial steeple]

instead of looking where they are strong, look where your enemies are weak

[glacial steeple]

any form of offensive infantry (mountaineers) would work

[heady skiff]

I mean my infantry isnt THAT bad

I dont think

[glacial steeple]

thats pretty bad

they dont need field hosps and its a bit large on the defensive

[heady skiff]

Vro

I have so many divisions

[glacial steeple]

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68

[heady skiff]

I need ts ;-;

[glacial steeple]

watch this 5 minute video

[lament quail]

puppet divisions are clearly not that bad

[vital plinth]

Hey in my current trade law I’m getting 23 factories but have to use 32 to fill reassouces. Any idea if I should go from free trade to focused export ?

[heady skiff]

Sooooo I just make good tanks with breakthrough and good hard and soft attack but also make my infantry divs smaller so they can defend better

[glacial steeple]

yeah basically

[heady skiff]

;-;

Welp

Wish I knew ts earlier

[glacial steeple]

cheap infantry so you can focus your spare industrial capacity on pushing units

[glacial steeple]

is a thing you should do no matter your country size

just the expensiveness of your offensive units may change

[heady skiff]

Who could have thought that 250 mills on infantry equipment was too much

🤔

[glacial steeple]

thats fine tbh

[heady skiff]

Maaane im putting a 100 on tanks

[glacial steeple]

just convert to rangers/mountaineers for offensive units then

dont do anything dumb just work from where you are

heres a gun-heavy offensive unit

[heady skiff]

So ima do allat tommorow

[heady skiff]

And save this image

Cus its 1:30am

And I have school at 7

🥀

[glacial steeple]

good night :)

[heady skiff]

I have 400 hours and still didnt know how tf attack works 🥹 ✌️

Worlds best player trust

[glacial steeple]

its fine

[heady skiff]

This is one of the first times Ive actually editted a template lmao

[glacial steeple]

the resources for learning are pretty poor

[heady skiff]

To make ts

[glacial steeple]

that video is a gem

[heady skiff]

Thank you vro 🥹 🙏

[lament quail]

I have 2.4 k hours and didn’t know what a subdoctrine was up until yesterday

[glacial steeple]

its the doctrines in your doctrine

[lament quail]

I now know dw

[heady skiff]

Maybe now I can ACTUALLY play the game and not stalemate every war with a major 🥹 ✌️

[pulsar beacon]

is that heavy for the armor meme

[glacial steeple]

for break, for piercing

usually id do mediums but i was testing and it was the first mountaineer image i could find

[lament quail]

i have 24 armored divisions

i also have plans to used said divs

[glacial steeple]

looks pretty clear to me

[lament quail]

to push to posen

from there up to lithuania(its there somehwere)

and to poland

but im not sure if i should do these two pushes at the same time

or one after the other

and also

do i still get the buffs from the field marshal

if i battleplan with the general

instead of said field marshal

[glacial steeple]

note they will reshuffle troops as you go behind