ask-for-help-here

[neat widget]

Yeah

you would

I think

[glacial steeple]

engi 2 i believe

its 10%

[neat widget]

those are river bonuses i'm pretty sure

[glacial steeple]

its one of them

i think

[neat widget]

very definitely river bonuses

[versed rose]

large unit tactics brick btw (can replace flametank with AA or support arty for no DLC)

[tropic seal]

And this doesn't need like any tank divs to actually help push right

[neat widget]

or actually probably replace them with signals because otherwise you might start getting reinforce memed, and if you're under red air replace the infantry with aa

[neat widget]

in singleplayer yeah

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

[versed rose]

needs you to rush gun, but yea, pushes ai just fine

[glacial steeple]

mass mob died

[tropic seal]

wdym by rush gun

[glacial steeple]

SF massmob is SO back though

[tropic seal]

I can also just run this right the production cost isnt insane

[versed rose]

research gun day 1, never stop researching gun

[glacial steeple]

tank prod cost also isnt insane

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[glacial steeple]

youre probably just spending it in wrong places

[tropic seal]

i highkey suck at using tank divs

i end up getting them encircled a lot

[versed rose]

also yea, this is relevant too, reinforce rate is dead with new doctrines so signals is basically mandatory if you dont wanna get memed to death

[tropic seal]

And i dont know how to manage them in areas with low supply like when i invaded america from canada i died cuz of supply

[tropic seal]

oh so which support company do i replace with signal

in the brick template

[glacial steeple]

you dont send them to areas with low suppky

you dont send them into mountains

you use an actually grinded general

and you probably shouldnt push too far from your inf lines

as in

always have inf on every tile

[tropic seal]

oh

[tropic seal]

tanks into mounatins? ah

[glacial steeple]

dont send them into jungles or marshes either

[tropic seal]

i was trying to avoid mountains and stuff

[neat widget]

northeastern US sort of sucks for supply, there are so many tiles between you and the next supply hub

[tropic seal]

but i think suppl ygot me

theres like zero supply in northeastern canada and US

[tropic seal]

yeah i died near boston pretty much

[glacial steeple]

boston is fine

just dont send too much

no supply, no fuel, no stats

[tropic seal]

Which support company would i replace signal with

with signal*

[glacial steeple]

logi

you dont have indiv excellence

[neat widget]

I mean they don't have flame tanks either

[tropic seal]

yes

[neat widget]

unless they have no step back dlc

[tropic seal]

what other doctrines

[tropic seal]

nah no dlcs so far

[neat widget]

mobile recon and assault or field engineering / i don't exactly know what you have for no DLC hoi4 but armored spearhead or armored infantry support helps on infantry for breakthrough (fyi armored spearhead does give break to light recon tank) / grand assault, or if you're running out of manpower then desperate defense

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[neat widget]

rapid domination is often used too in multiplayer infantry builds

[tropic seal]

here they are

[versed rose]

mobile recon, armored spearhead, grand assault

[tropic seal]

Aight ill just go this and replace flame with signal. Is the top support armored engineer or assault engi

[versed rose]

assault engineer

[tropic seal]

thanks

by the way, if I improve relations with say a nation like japan in 1936 and they change govs will i need to start from scratch

or will their opinion of me stay good

[glacial steeple]

it ticks down regardless

its a pretty bad button to press usually

[tropic seal]

ah

i wanted to send an attache

to leech some exp from the china invasion

is that good or no

[glacial steeple]

thats the only good use

[tropic seal]

aight

[tidal meadow]

best tank destroyer?

mp

[tropic seal]

Why not field engineering btw?

How do I unlock these slots

[fathom thistle]

Progress with doctrine

[tropic seal]

any doctrine?

[fathom thistle]

Every doctrine gets it unlocked eventually

[tropic seal]

ah aight

Which is better for inf bricks? Still mobile recon?

[sudden meadow]

do nukes destroy infrastructure and rail lines

like if I was to drop a bomb on a supply hub of theirs could I hypothetically kinda do that to make sure they cant resupply

[tropic seal]

What's the best if I'm planning on just using naval bombers

for like 95% of my naval combat

[full quail]

I'm 18 achievos deep and have no idea what I'm doing

I just spent the last like four hours dismantling the british empire from the inside

[full quail]

Precision naval bombing sounds best on paper = like is your goal = use fighters to assert air superiority then use naval bombers to sink their ships then naval invade?

[tropic seal]

yes

i am really really bad at actually playing naval with ships lol i end up always relying on naval bombers

[fathom thistle]

Engi

[tropic seal]

aight

also what do i do with command points when not at war

ive assigned all traits i can

and sent as many attaches as i can

[sudden meadow]

How should I go about solving this...

[fathom thistle]

Send attaches if you can

[sudden meadow]

well just deleted some units but yeahhhhh

[fathom thistle]

Maybe don't have that many divs...

[sudden meadow]

I dont want to either but Im going up against China, Russia, India, and the French

[tropic seal]

474 divs??

[sudden meadow]

and none of my standard divisions hardly work

[tropic seal]

soviet union numbers as japan

[sudden meadow]

for home defense yeah

thats another thing, Ik those guys are gonna try and play too, the already took karafuto

what do yall think I should do

cause I dont want to leave the home islands open for attack

[fathom thistle]

You don't need to defend the whole coastline. Just defend around naval bases

[sudden meadow]

scared of encirclement

any time I do anything in this game I try and encircle and then wind up getting that unit encircled cause some stupid horde doom stack with like a billion tanks

well in your opinion what do you think a more reasonable number would be

[fathom thistle]

I did like 74 for the whole France and Italy together at max. If their divs are just great they land no matter what. I just have one army on standby to deal with it.

[sudden meadow]

heres the template if any of that helps

[fathom thistle]

So just take that to comparison

[sudden meadow]

true

[neat widget]

doctrines

[sudden meadow]

wdym?

[neat widget]

what doctrines do you have

if you're making a division that small you probably want individual excellence, but you don't have dlcs so i don't think you have it

also engineers aren't particularly useful here

[sudden meadow]

uhhh lemme check

[sudden meadow]

I heard they're good for entrenchment tho

like this?

[neat widget]

wait why mobile infantry

[sudden meadow]

I wasnt particularlly sure what to put but I basically thought well Im trying to encircle enemies so I should be fast maybe so I just chose that

[tropic seal]

Anyone got a good marine and mountaineer template?

Non DLC

Marines I need them for naval invasion

singeplayer*

[hoary glen]

Marines: 36w 5 Heavy Tanks and rest Marines. Support: Naval Invasion (if not available use shovels and remove tanks if below 50% Naval Invasion attack), Medium Flame Tank (if not available rockets), scout light tank, Field hospitals, Arty

Mountaineer: 32w pure Mountaineers tho you can replace one with a Heavy Tank. Support: Shovels, Rangers, Field Hospital, support Arty

[drifting prawn]

how do I win ww2 as italy to form roman empire? I usually cap the balkans by early 1938, but after that I keep finding myself very behind compared to the allies with my tanks and attacking Syria and france is a nightmare since after a while Germany caps them and forms Vichy and all my progress gets reset, how do I win ww2 with that?

[tropic seal]

Anything I can do with PP?

[fathom thistle]

Grant medals , if you have any pp decisions do those

[tropic seal]

did all pp decisions, how do I grant medals?

[tropic seal]

What are rangers? I only have recons

[fathom thistle]

Might be part of dlc but when your divs fight there will be a medal icon in army menu

[tropic seal]

ah

[hoary glen]

The recon from the mountaineer SF tree. If you don't have that use scout light tanks

[tropic seal]

I don't think I have scout light tanks either

[hoary glen]

No DLC is cooked bro. Jk. Just grab something that adds breakthrough. So rocket Arty

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

yeah i did no dlc on purpose because i could barely even unedrstand the base game lol

i think ill get dlcs when i start winning

[austere roost]

What are your stats? Also I doubt you'll need anything heavy in sp environment, and you definitely would want to specialize into SPGs or TDs based on if you're playing sp or mp

[tropic seal]

havent researched rocket arty yet

[austere roost]

Rocket art is a waste of research

[tropic seal]

ah

[austere roost]

You get it in 1940 and it'll take until 1941 to produce it

What war are you planning to fight in with it, the Peru-Ecuador war?

[tropic seal]

oh

i uh havent gone to war yet and its 1941

am i cooked

[austere roost]

Who are you playing

Also, you don't need marines for naval invasion in sp

[tropic seal]

germany..

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[austere roost]

In mp you'll want space marine Amtraks but that's a different story

Are you on 4yp or peg?

[tropic seal]

peg

[austere roost]

Just fight when you're ready

[tropic seal]

alright

[austere roost]

You might be overthinking things

[tropic seal]

fair

[austere roost]

Poland is programmed to fail

[tropic seal]

oh rn the USSR is taking them out

[austere roost]

France ai is so stupid

[tropic seal]

i did treaty with the ussr

[austere roost]

And ussr will not attack you in historical

Well don't do the stupid treaty

[tropic seal]

oh that wouldve been nice to know last game

i had like eighty divs on their broder

because i thought they would attack me

[tropic seal]

oop

[austere roost]

Congratulations you wasted 70 days of focus just so you're forced to give east Poland to ussr

[tropic seal]

oops

can i still declare on them later

[austere roost]

Historic ussr will only declare on you if 1. You did the treaty focus 2. You betrayed them on Eastern poland

[sudden meadow]

do nuclear weapons destroy railroads or supply centers

[tropic seal]

so they will declare o nme

[austere roost]

Yeah you can

[tropic seal]

oop

[austere roost]

If you betray them

[tropic seal]

wdym by betray them

what path does that

[austere roost]

By not giving them east Poland when you get the event

[tropic seal]

ah aight

then thats fine

i want to take out america first anyway

[austere roost]

Babarossa focus does not rely on the pact focus

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[austere roost]

And the Molotov path is weaker iirc

And tbh you don't even need the Barbarossa focus anyway

[tropic seal]

oh

[austere roost]

Just justify on tanna tuva

[tropic seal]

by the way how many civs does germany usually need

before they start making mils

[austere roost]

50 because you need 50 for the 5th slot

Tbh you don't need the 5th slot but it's nice to have

For most countries 3 years before you enter WW2 is when you should start building mils

[tropic seal]

oh..

[austere roost]

That's when you maximize production

[tropic seal]

i made 250 civs

am i cooked

[austere roost]

Wtf

You call can try

Foes Germany have space for 250 factories?

[tropic seal]

yes

it does

250 civs and 100 mils currently

[austere roost]

Just remember the 3 year rule next time

[tropic seal]

aight

[austere roost]

The goal of building factories isn't to maximize factory count or even mil count

It's to maximize total production before the war begins

[tropic seal]

oh

wdym

[austere roost]

And it takes time to maximize production efficiency on a factory

So you need time for built mil factories to provide you max production

Take ussr as example

[tropic seal]

I might've screwed myself because I can't take total mob rn

[austere roost]

You don't need total mob

War economy is enough

[tropic seal]

ah

[austere roost]

Say you're ussr. I can get to 400 factories by June 1941 and can pump out 120 36 width SPG divisions. I can civ greed and then build to 600 factories by June 1941 but it will be only 50 more mils and they're all at half efficiency and ran for less time so I can't even fully equip infantry divisions.

[tropic seal]

oh

ok

[neat widget]

One hundred twenty SPG divisions

Oh my

[austere roost]

It's not too hard

As ussr you get research buffs on mechs so you can research 1940 mech early

And then just spend 100 mil XP on maxing out production cost for your 1940 mech after you research it

And for spgs, just design a 1938 chassis howitzer SPG with cutting corners in both okmo and mytischy design company

That gives you an 8 cost SPG and 100 factories on it gives you like 180 spgs a day

[sleek remnant]

Medium spg better than light spg?

[sleek remnant]

Also curious about this, it probably changes depending on country but how should I distribute factories? And differences as minor and majors nations due to economic differences

[austere roost]

Light SPG might be better but I just don't like light tanks

[austere roost]

You build mils 3 years before the war starts to maximize production

[sleek remnant]

Medium tank propaganda has ingrained in me so using lights even if they’re good now feels wrong

[austere roost]

Also you'll need to find a way to get 1941 lights

[sleek remnant]

I only build infrastructure and then mils (idk if it’s optimal to build infrastructure though)

[sleek remnant]

36 light doesn’t work?

[glacial steeple]

statbloat means youre more break starved

[sleek remnant]

I see even inter war designs

[glacial steeple]

against ai maybe you can get away with it

[austere roost]

I really don't know

Never tested

[glacial steeple]

1 tank for break 8 light LSPG with 9 mech

might be good

[austere roost]

If you're production starved then you should use lights maybe since they're half the price

[glacial steeple]

or rather amhtracs

[sleek remnant]

So… mediums are better?

[glacial steeple]

more tank is always good if stats allow

[glacial steeple]

for break yea

idk why youd wanna do CSG

[austere roost]

Problem is break is useless once you have enough

[glacial steeple]

so youd need fixed turret

[glacial steeple]

light SPGs get like 0

thats unfixable

[sleek remnant]

I probably distribute factories wrong because I struggle to get enough usually

And how do people get mechs so early 😭

[glacial steeple]

usually by clicking the tech early

[austere roost]

Usually you shouldn't build infrastructure since it's not worth it until you have 8 empty slots or something which only really appears after you get concentrated 3

I believe 71 has done an experiment on it

[austere roost]

Ussr has a focus that gives you 100% research bonus

[sleek remnant]

Csg?

[sleek remnant]

How early 🤔
The penalty seems huge and idk if I want that
Probably not a problem in mp but idk if good in sp

[austere roost]

It's also a prerequisite for things like merge plants, tank grad, and 5th research slot if you want to get it so you have to take the focus anyway

If it's good for MP it's good for SP unless we're talking about maxing out hard attack and piercing

Mech for ussr is good because ussr gets research bonus and if barb is on 1941 June you have enough time to mass produce mechs esp with lvl5 production cost reduction

[sleek remnant]

I also heard that I should use cavalry until I get mechs for tanks, it it correct or not? Idk why cavalry instead of infantry though

[austere roost]

You can just use inf

Cav is for rp

[sleek remnant]

Yea I know that but in mp from what I know different nations rush different techs and license to each other which isn’t realistic in sp

[tropic seal]

Holy whoever gave me that brick template thanks

I somehow capped the benelux poland france with 13k casualties

i usually take like 100k or something

i didnt micro at all either

[cold garnet]

+20 armor light spg can hit 30 break

[cold garnet]

cuz 4IC light spg with 60 break

But genuinely speaking for that purpose, LTD is actually better

Cuz armored spearhead gives 40% break and therefore MC2 LTD has more stats than CSG LSPG in every parameter

[tropic seal]

How do I demote my puppet's autonomy level

[glacial steeple]

close support gun

[glacial steeple]

but atp mediums are cheaper

[glacial steeple]

as canada 1936

as bulgaria 1936

[sleek remnant]

Oh I see
Is 1939 arty tech important for tanks? I usually design it with that
Is anything else is worth using before?

[glacial steeple]

as germany ehhh 1937/38 with bonus

as ussr similar

as uk no

as usa no

as japan why

as any minor without buffs why

if you have a good bonus like 300% or 2 year ahead of time or even 100% probably ASAP

motorized sucks and cav drops off crazy fast now

with indiv excellence

[sleek remnant]

I wish motorised was better

[glacial steeple]

it is now ig

+5 hp on indiv

[sleek remnant]

Idk how accurate historically (nit that the game is accurate but) it’s just faster than infantry with same stats
Couldn’t they be used for anything offensive?

[cold bloom]

Go to autonomy menu to see if the type you have is demoteable and to actually do it, build in their territory or donate equipment

[cold garnet]

Not 4IC

[neat widget]

with the right discounts you can get light spgs all the way to 1.5 ic

i posted images somewhere but i can't find them anywhere

[glacial steeple]

do you remember the server?

you mean this?

[tropic seal]

Why cant i get rid of stuff that ive alreayd sent in lend lease

like ive sent these things and now im out of them, how do i remove them and send other stuff

[neat widget]

that doesn't look too dissimilar tbh

i swear i only post about hoi4 in like 4 servers and in all of them discord is having image amnesia

[glacial steeple]

i mostly use dc on mobile tbh

[tropic seal]

oh wait im sto stupid

nvm

[glacial steeple]

its really easy to search images compared to pc

[glacial steeple]

dw

me too

[tropic seal]

Why isn't my puppet's autonomy going down anymore

when i lend lease them

It used to go down

now no matter what i throw at them their autonomy doesnt decrease

[cold bloom]

You do know you have to wait for it to arrive?

[glacial steeple]

foreign equipment doesnt count

[tropic seal]

oh

thanks

[tropic seal]

yes i meant it wasnt showing up on the lend lease screen

[wild rune]

What kind of...

[tropic seal]

why cant ai japan even take the phillipines bruh

[trail olive]

anyone wanna vc and explain stuff to me, guides wont work on me

[wild rune]

Wdym "guides won't work on [you]"

[trail olive]

i tried lookin at guides and i still dont undeerstand what i need to do

[wild rune]

Deploy troops, declare on enemy and win

[trail olive]

pretty straight forward

[tropic seal]

aw hell my japanese ally did NOTHING and now the us is on my ass

[wild rune]

Are they already capitulated?

Did they lose china war?

[glacial steeple]

ai japan could take the rubber and new players would complain that they havent invaded the US or something

[tropic seal]

no

but theyre stuck on phillipiens

[glacial steeple]

or they judge performance purely on small islands taken

[wild rune]

Chat

[tropic seal]

they havent even touched the east indies

[wild rune]

Damn

[tropic seal]

like not even a naval invasion

[glacial steeple]

happens

did they take malaysia?

[tropic seal]

Current state of japan (its 1943)

[glacial steeple]

ok so they won

they took malaysia

[tropic seal]

no

oh

wat

that wins?

[glacial steeple]

allied production is like way down

[tropic seal]

oh

i need rubber badly

[wild rune]

The humble rubber

[tropic seal]

kinda wish they pushed into the east indies

[glacial steeple]

well the only reason asia matters is for allied rubber

so any detriment is pretty good

[wild rune]

Trade from them or build synthetics

[tropic seal]

they have no rubber for trade

[glacial steeple]

ofc ai struggles to invade but if they take malaysia thats a lot of resources gone

good enough

[wild rune]

What about siam?

[glacial steeple]

do you wanna know some dumb ai behaviour thats game ruiningate game

[wild rune]

Sure

[glacial steeple]

lets say ussr they can get 1000 steel

idk 300 chromium

and a bunch of aluminium

maybe even rubber

[tropic seal]

nothing

[glacial steeple]

if they are in a rubber/tungsten deficit they will go down on trade law

no matter how little they have

[tropic seal]

no rubber for me

[glacial steeple]

so theyll go closed eco because theyre making like 10 tungsten and just trade none of the other stufd

and this is all ai

so likely siam here went down on trade law due to lack of steel

[wild rune]

Just have to build synthetics and research tech mb gng

[tropic seal]

sob

[tropic seal]

Anyone got a good all rounder advanced destroyer template?

I have no idea how to design naval units

[hollow linden]

Well dds in hoi are in a weird spot. They are just there to tank, not deal damage. So just make the cheapest possible dd you can

Hull doesn't matter

[tropic seal]

oh

what do i make to deal damage then

[tropic seal]

Now the allies are naval invading malaysia

🥀

[hoary glen]

My beloved

[hollow linden]

Rare Patrick appearance????

I didn't know u were alive still

[hoary glen]

Worst gun, best engine, 3 Torp tubes. If you play the big ones like US, UK, Italy or Japan you don't need any tho bc you start with enough.

[tropic seal]

what does the damage in naval then

[hoary glen]

Bro, I'm cooked. UK is so terrible to play bc the AI randomly selects missions for your faction.

[hoary glen]

Torps > Heavy > Light. But Torps only work if the screen of the enemy is gone. And Light attack does the most per IC for you.

[inner sparrow]

ai filling facilities in 3 mili sections instead of players in mp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786868732181086243/1460277931845619722/togif.gif

[hoary glen]

Also most fleets start with abysmal light attack, so that is what you want to increase

[hollow linden]

Lmao

[hoary glen]

Hahaha. Yeah and generating Infinite faction score

[inner sparrow]

fr

[tropic seal]

oh

[tropic seal]

battleships or cruisers for damage?

[sweet summit]

Uh can I have a suggestion for a fun minor to play as

I might try Lithuania

[hollow linden]

Cruisers

[hollow linden]

Lithuania is fun

To plc

Best path

[sweet summit]

I'm going commonwealth 🥀

Btw how do you check how much manpower you're lacking

[hollow linden]

Click army tab, check deployed manpower

[sweet summit]

What army tab ?

Where's the tab 🥀

[tropic seal]

light or heavy?

[hollow linden]

Light

[hollow linden]

Top right corner

[tropic seal]

do you hve a template

for the cruisers

[sweet summit]

I'd never seen that before
Thanks

[hollow linden]

Above

I literally sent it

[fathom thistle]

Hungary. You get a lot of territory with cores without fighting if you do it right

[sweet summit]

Uh where's it 🥀

[hollow linden]

Top right corner.

Again.

Next to the close button

[sweet summit]

Oh damn

I have 63k deficit with an 18k army 🥀

Wait no deficit .. 🥀
But 6 divs of 4

Veterans 👀

[tropic seal]

does attaching air wings to armies actualyl do anything

[tropic seal]

ah thanks im blind

[light knoll]

yes but the ai sucks at managing them so it doesn't do much

its better than not having air but much worse than doing air manually

[alpine cloak]

yeay they kind of follow your army so you dont need to redirect them

[tropic seal]

Oh

[tropic seal]

What does this symbol mean

[native gorge]

Lads i cant find the decision to seize Austrian gold reserves, i waited 5 days after anschluss and its still not here

Do i have to be in active war?

[viscid abyss]

Something to do with pride of the fleet I think

But idk much about navy

[viscid abyss]

It will be in one of the fleets you assigned

[viscid abyss]

It automatically takes it?

[tropic seal]

I've split my navy but they still go to the same spot when i tell one of the groups to go

[pliant condor]

if you did not set home base to automatic

they may not have range

or they may not have range anyway

also patroling multiple seazones doesn't really work

[tropic seal]

no as in if i send one of the fleets somewhere

oh

wdym

[pliant condor]

just don't do it

[tropic seal]

aight

[pliant condor]

split them into multiple fleets if you have to

[tropic seal]

how do i do that

i thought i already did that

[pliant condor]

the 51 is a fleet with 3 task forces

the 40 and 16 are two different fleets

you can set one seazone for each fleet

[tropic seal]

oh

ok

[pliant condor]

but make sure you have range

if it doesn't have range you won't get any patrol

[tropic seal]

ok

[native gorge]

Oh?

[tropic seal]

Anyone got a good mountaineer template?

No dlc

ive been trying and failing for ages to push the last chinese out of the mountains

anything I can add?

[hexed parcel]

So I’m gonna try my first WC (Germany) without allies, any tips? I don’t mind cheese, all DLCs

I’m thinking 12w inf for port garrison, with support engineers

18w inf with support engineers, artillery, anti-air for line holding

8-8 mot/med tank with support assault engineers, anti-air, mot recon, logistics, med flame tank for pushing

I suck at eco management but I’m okay at battleplanning and microing

[sudden tangle]

Means None of your task forces are in the zone doing the naval patrol due to either range or repair etc

[pliant condor]

as japan?

you don't need to push deep into the mountains as japan

[hoary glen]

Replace the line Arty with Mountaineers and fill up to 32w

[hoary glen]

Also this. Go for VPs not mountain villages

[hexed parcel]

I personally do 12 mountaineers and 2 artillery and that crushes anything I throw at it, not ideal for actual mountains though, so maybe your design but drop one artillery? Do you really need 3?

[tropic seal]

nah germany

[tropic seal]

i just copied a template i found

i dont know if its actually good or not

[hexed parcel]

Medium flame tanks basically always on offensive divs as germany

[tropic seal]

i dont have those

no dlc

[hexed parcel]

Outdated maybe, is the video or post old?

[hexed parcel]

Ah

[tropic seal]

about a year yeah

whats the new best template for mountaineers

[hexed parcel]

For mountains, mountaineers until 25w, for general purpose shock troops? I find that 12 mountaineers and 2 artillery works

[tropic seal]

what does this condition mean?

[tropic seal]

mountains speicfically

my normal inf works fine on like anything except mountains

they die on mountains

[light knoll]

invade the uk, encircle London and atart declaring wars on nations that would join the allies. then take London and cap the uk and all the minors that joined

[hexed parcel]

Just mountaineers, 25w, no line art

[sudden tangle]

Visual representation of what he means @tropic seal

(Pretend it’s not paratroopers)

[tropic seal]

ah aight thanks

[tropic seal]

and i assume i add armored recon too?

[tropic seal]

that's 34w though

[hexed parcel]

Assault engineers (idk if u have them without dlc), cavalry recon, or ranger recon

Actually

[tropic seal]

ah yeah i have assault engineers

replace normal engi with them?

and wat width

[light knoll]

yes

[hexed parcel]

No assault engineers in mountains, i think

[tropic seal]

oh

[light knoll]

25w is optimal for mountains specifically. but 36w is more universal

[hexed parcel]

He wants a mountain specific one so 25 in this case

[light knoll]

and you won't use them on mountains alone

[tropic seal]

im probably plannign on just throwing htem at mountains

[light knoll]

then sure go 25w

[tropic seal]

im currently onyl struggling when trying to fight enemies on moutanins

ok

how do i get to 25w

i can only hit 24w rn

[light knoll]

do the doctrine

not sure if it gets fo 25 round but aa close as possible

[tropic seal]

this works?

[light knoll]

yea

[tropic seal]

ok

[hexed parcel]

Its the doctrine called hold the line or sth, the one mutually exclusive with mountain artillery

[light knoll]

except cav recon

[tropic seal]

ah

[hexed parcel]

Reduces combat width look for that

[light knoll]

do you have rangers recon?

[tropic seal]

what do i replace that with

[sudden tangle]

Same thing

[tropic seal]

no

[tropic seal]

uh is that in non dlc

[light knoll]

light tank recon?

[hexed parcel]

I believe so yes

Idk for certain

[tropic seal]

don't have that either

[light knoll]

what do you have i don't remember what is there in no dlc

do you have signal

[tropic seal]

yes

[light knoll]

use that then

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

[sudden tangle]

No dlc don’t have rangers rank designs plane designs and can’t buy equipment thats it

[pliant condor]

do you have special force dlc

doctrine

[sudden tangle]

Nah he shouldn’t

He’s dlc-less

[viscid abyss]

Read the focus description

I don’t remember the wording but I think it does mention the gold

[tropic seal]

no

[sudden tangle]

I do need a strategy for Brazil South America and eventual world conquest

If anyone has done it before and can propose a strategy

[tropic seal]

can rockets from europe hit amerca

america

as germany

or do i need to like build them in greenland

[sudden tangle]

If you get ICBMs yes

Special project

[light knoll]

they don't have dlcs

so no special projects

[pliant condor]

unfortunate

just battleplan the mountains with CAS

mountaineer barely does anything

[sudden tangle]

You get a few

Even I don’t have gottedamerung and nukes youre forced to get with special projects

What you can’t get are cool things like nuclear ICBMS

But rockets 3 you get by researching icbms

[tropic seal]

its in japanese territory

china

i have no cas

[tropic seal]

ok

anyone got a template for superheavy battleships

or are they not worth it

[sudden tangle]

Eh

I don’t play Japan I can’t tell you

[tropic seal]

i researched it as germany

[sudden tangle]

I’m more of the irrelevant hoi4 nation player

[sudden tangle]

Next time instead research the submarines and research snorkel instead of super heavy battleship

[tropic seal]

oh

ok

why is it such a pain to cap china man

ive taken like 99% of their cities and theyre still fighting

[sudden tangle]

Bonus if you get the cruiser submarine special project , even better

[sudden tangle]

How much is the surrender progress

[tropic seal]

how do i check

[sudden tangle]

Go to the menu that shows who you are at war with

[tropic seal]

then?

[sudden tangle]

Hold your mouse on the bar that is under the China flag

Or nation flag that you wanna check the progress of

[tropic seal]

aw hell

ZERO?

I have to get ALL their cities?

what is this man

[sudden tangle]

No their victory points

[tropic seal]

i thought htose wre just their cities

[sudden tangle]

Which are some cities
Example:

you have a nation with 10 cities

To cap them you need 10 victory points

That nation has 2 big cities that are worth 5 victory points if you take those two you win

Or you could take all the smaller ones that have a Pugh victory points altogether needed to cap them

That’s how the victory points work

Then there’s the 3rd option
With a spy agency you can create a collab goverment that reduces how many victory points you need but you have no DLCs so that options is not available

Check what cities are left that have victory points and grab them

China has chonqing that has quite a few victory points and is assential to get a cap

@tropic seal

[tropic seal]

ohhh that makes sense

[tropic seal]

yeah ive grabbed every single city

except literally one in the far west

behind a buttload of mountains

Is there anyway to ask your ally to allow you to use their airbases man

Pushing in china with no cash is painful

Yeah I lowk give up its halfway through 1945

I'm going to build a buncha nuclear facilities

[pliant condor]

request airbase access

[tropic seal]

Oh

Is that an option

[pliant condor]

3 main turret, fill the rest with level 2 secondary gun

use superheavy armor

[pliant condor]

maybe that's also locked behind dlc

[pliant condor]

also that's not true

[tropic seal]

Oh ok

[pliant condor]

you need every vp

like literally every tile

if their surrender progress is 0%

[tropic seal]

Damn ..

[pliant condor]

idk why you are fighting them

[tropic seal]

That sucks

[tropic seal]

I wanted to just clean them up

So Japan could focus on america

[pliant condor]

kill japan then

[tropic seal]

Oh

[pliant condor]

ah

don't expect the ai to do anything for you

[tropic seal]

Italy ai is gonna reach America before Japan bruh

They naval invaded iceland

Yeah the allies are pretty much gone from Asia including india

Americas the only major ally left

Britain and France are in Africa but they have like ten mils

[pliant condor]

go do it yorusewlf

[tropic seal]

Aight

Do I need to take greenland

Or is it viable to just naval America from europe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589311099674034176/1460998039018803434/image.png?ex=6968f3f4&is=6967a274&hm=962415b626f20c2688e7384367b3e8cc06acb49271fc16be2c9cb3f886cfea19&

Also thjs

Why can't I take it

There's no one left in Europe except the Soviets and italians

And spanish

But they're all allied with me

[sinful quartz]

guys

how do you make a tank template

[tropic seal]

You need DLC do you have kt

[sinful quartz]

can someone tell me for vannila ?

[torpid sonnet]

I'm getting an error code of 3221225775, what does that mean and how do I solve it?

[tropic seal]

I don't think you can design tanks in vanilla

Correct me if I'm wrong though

[sinful quartz]

ig you can

[tropic seal]

Oh you mean division template not tank template my bad

[sinful quartz]

np

[true tapir]

whats a good medium tank and a division template for it?

[outer garden]

Wich country ya playing

[outer garden]

@true tapir

[true tapir]

us

[cold bloom]

Theres some designs in the pins

[true tapir]

ok ty

[past oracle]

Hello.. Can you recommend a good youtube guide for a new person? Also, are the last two DLC required? I have all but the last two. I tried Germany last time and made some mistakes, I wouldnt mind doing it again in attempt to learn the game

[viscid abyss]

The last time I played the USA Britain and France declared war on me (something to do with building ships?). How do I make sure this doesn’t happen again

[scenic nacelle]

U built too many capital ships

Violated the London treaty

And they got mad

[viscid abyss]

It just goes by capital ships?

So I can build cruisers and destroyers first and that won’t ruin things

[scenic nacelle]

Yes

[light knoll]

segl

is the most accurate one

[viscid abyss]

How do I get out of the treaty

[past oracle]

I see a bunch of videos on templates but no tutorial or guide for a new player. Am I missing it?

[light knoll]

if you mean for the very basics then just the official guide

of hoi4

segl is more explaining how things actually work and what you should do

[past oracle]

Cheers

I did see some interesting videos but I need to quick refresher.

Trying to figure out if the last 2 DLC are worth it

[scenic nacelle]

Somewhere in decisions

[tribal stratus]

Is the easiest most cheesy world conquest run just a British empire run

And you declare war on all the subjects and annex them

[viscid abyss]

And is there any negative side effect of removing it?

How does the uk react

[scenic nacelle]

No clue

[tribal stratus]

Not really nk

No

The Uk lowers ur opinion

Is this historical

[scenic nacelle]

Prob

[viscid abyss]

Yes

[tribal stratus]

Yeah cuz I genuinely can’t play Germany anymore

[tribal stratus]

Just abandon the treaty

They won’t do anything

[viscid abyss]

Ok perfect

Thank you

[tribal stratus]

np I’m surprised they even declared war

Didn’t even know they would do this

You played as democratic US?

I’m sick of messing up sea lion, it’s time to just get a cheesy world conquest run as the British empire

I literally can’t land sea lion

[covert swift]

hey quick question i got are the forest special forces stronger than mountaineers

[tribal stratus]

depends where

on average probably since there is a lot more forestry terrain yk?

[viscid abyss]

Yes I think I played completely historical

[tribal stratus]

Wow when did they declare war

That’s weird

[viscid abyss]

I think it was late 1938

Or early 39

[tribal stratus]

Yeah just leave the treaties asap

I played as the UK and left the treaties and America threatened me

But they won’t actually do anything

you might get the call their bluff decision or whatever

[viscid abyss]

Ok good to know thanks

[scenic nacelle]

I don’t think so

The mountaineers have a few more stats I think

[lucid glade]

Im trying to achieve The Return of the King achievement in Vanilla. The stability is below 50% and I gained more than 35% communist support yet the civil war isnt triggered why might that be?

[wispy spruce]

best tip for beginner 🥺

[true tapir]

what does it mean?

[pastel tiger]

You need to wait some time. I think it's about 210 days, so 3 focuses. Otherwise you would get rid of the debug too fast and it would be too OP.

@true tapir

[true tapir]

thanks i just realised

[tidal meadow]

someone give me a good tank design for mp please

[trail mica]

guys whats meta division for no dlc after update including doctrines

[scenic nacelle]

For who?

That Soviet game?

Heavy tank destroyer with max small cannons +max armour/speed

And ofc the best AT gun

[dusty sandal]

doctrines, I'd say go large unit so you can get better inf but it's whatever honestly ; then "self propelled support" as arty, whatever buffs SPGs soft attack more, and "grand assault" (for the breakthrough so you never lack any)

[dusty sandal]

this is basically the only tank design in MP, it's always a heavy tank destroyer (always, for hard attack) OR a medium SPG (for anti Dday or Jap whacker mainly)
the only variants may be : The canon which is heavy 2 until you get heavy 3 OR choose to use High velocity 3. Both are worth, it's a matter of if you're lacking IC/resources or not. You can also choose to swap the suspension for the breakthrough one if you prefer. Early French tanks also don't use a radio and only use secondary canons because reliability is a myth in plains and loger battles means you get more damage from CAS
ALWAYS use infantry tank designer, if you don't have any, use the one that gets you the most buffs to Hard atk, Breakthrough, soft atk, anything else. in that order of priority from top to least

[dusty sandal]

read the tooltips. See something you don't understand ? Pause the game, over over it and read the tooltip
Also, see a red icon somewhere ? then you're probably doing something wrong
See red bubbles ? please don't smash your head on the wall repeatedly. Just stop and do things another way, if it's red it's no good and continuously bashing your head on that wall certainly will help you ... in dying quicker

[sudden meadow]

how do I deal with this

[dusty sandal]

deal with what

the deathstack of troops ? the naval invasion not going ?
please elaborate. Can't help if I don't know what you want to deal with precisely. A vague screenshot showing a billion different informations isn't gonna help much without context

[blazing plume]

Does anyone know how to use icmbs for nuclear raids

[idle arch]

Meta inf template for soviet if doing a full hold

[spice pine]

guys is it possible for a startegy for someone like ussr i could just hold the line, make them kmeep attacking and then when they run out of equipment and org i attack

[idle arch]

Sure but u will wait like 4 years for them to FULLY run out of equity

[spice pine]

llolll

[topaz yew]

hello, im not quite sure what to do as china now, is my option just to wait for allies to get japan or to make paratroopers?

[blazing plume]

I would try and get some paratroopers and drop them over south japan

[topaz yew]

okay ty

[tough oak]

Gng anyone knows why I didn't get the Stalin? How many guns does he have? achievement as Italy, I got the Pope and than I capitualted them (USSR Trotsikyist) and than puppeted them anything I did wrong?

[tawdry mica]

why cant i equip medium flame company in my template i researched flammpanzer and advanced flamethrower

[viscid abyss]

Better to build cas tacs or strat bombers as USA?

[austere roost]

did you design the flame tank?

[tawdry mica]

yes but i used a medium howitzer do i have to use a flamethrower?

[tough oak]

Got it

[sleek remnant]

Large unit tactics vs assault infantry pros and cons? I used to go LUT but nowadays going AI

[topaz yew]

if i declare war on china while the japanese war is still ongoing, will the allies fight me?

[austere roost]

yes, why else do you think it's called a flame tank?

design a flame tank and make it as cheap as possible, you can use inter-war

[idle arch]

Meta inf template for soviet if doing a full hold

[tawdry mica]

yea because i just watched a video who showed his design and in his template was a medium flame company but he used a medium howitzer not a flamethrower

[austere roost]

the howitzer was for the actual tank/spg

not for the flame tank

he's assuming you know that a flame tank is a tank with flamethrower

[austere roost]

inf mixed with spgs and a spaa

[tawdry mica]

wait lemme show u his template

[tawdry mica]

he just showed those 2 not a flame design

[viscid abyss]

How do I get over the limit of 2 naval invasions at a time

[sinful trench]

Can you have 5 carrier or can I only use 4 in a battel without getting the debuff?

[austere roost]

Yeah because he assumed you know how to make a flame tank

Just use the inter war chassis and put a flamethrower on it with the cheapest turret

[tawdry mica]

wait so i can put on a flamethrower and a turret in the same tank?

i thought u can only use one of them

[austere roost]

You need a turret to build a tank

Turret and weapon are essential

[tawdry mica]

and where can i equip the real turret not the essential

[austere roost]

Dude just open the tank designer and check for yourself

If you designed a tank before you wouldn't ask this

[tawdry mica]

i didnt

i have like 20h playtime

[austere roost]

Well open the tank designer then

[idle arch]

Show a template bro

[austere roost]

Choose inter war chassis, the cheapest turret, and the flamethrower

[austere roost]

9 inf + 8 SPG + 1spaa

Then get engineer, flame tanks support and then any support company that you want

[tawdry mica]

alr lemme try it

[severe smelt]

I have no idea where to start learning this game

[tawdry mica]

like this

nowi put on a flamethrower instead the howitzer

[austere roost]

No no no no no

You don't listen

Interwar chassis, cheapest turret, flamethrower

Nothing else

[severe smelt]

I wanna learn this game..but it's so complicated

[kind pelican]

its a trial and error thing 110%

this was my first grand strat game

and i do okay!

[austere roost]

https://youtu.be/QvHT121_lWQ?si=VdrDdyHtUouC8K1O Google is a good thing

[tawdry mica]

interwar medium tank right?

[severe smelt]

I wanna learn enough to play that really cool fallout mod

[austere roost]

Yes. And change the role of the tank to a flamethrower

[kind pelican]

oh old world blue

[sleek remnant]

Kinda but not always

[austere roost]

Remember nothing else

[severe smelt]

Yeah

[kind pelican]

there are certain things i'd say are trial and error

[austere roost]

No stupid radio, second turret, or fancy special module, and definitely no +10 armor

[sinful trench]

Can anyone help me?

[sleek remnant]

Which is why I said kinda

[kind pelican]

i didnt know you could motorise your army!

[austere roost]

The flame tank has 0 stats and the goal is to provide stat buffs to other units

[sleek remnant]

Wouldn’t some break be good for special forces?

[severe smelt]

For some reason I always enjoy playing the smallest nation possible in grand strategy games and building up forces

[austere roost]

Have you designed a flame tank before?

What is the breakthrough of a flame tank?

[kind pelican]

i just put shit on there i want to

smoke things!

[sleek remnant]

I think it was above 0

[kind pelican]

machine guns!

[austere roost]

Do you really want a 30 cost flame tank for 5 breakthrough?

[kind pelican]

easy maintenance probably isnt a good one

[tawdry mica]

but i cant switch to flame without a flamethrower

[sleek remnant]

Do I mistaken it with something else
I remember it was something decent 🤔

[kind pelican]

when will enough flame tanks ever be needed to do that though

[tawdry mica]

😭

[sleek remnant]

Put flame module and then switch

[austere roost]

Yeah cuz you need to put on a flamethrower why do you not listen

[viscid abyss]

I’m playing USA for the first time how do I fight Japan in mp. Or can I just ignore him

[austere roost]

Idk, maybe when you have 500 mil factories

[tawdry mica]

is that correct now PLS

[kind pelican]

liven it up!

yeah i guess

[austere roost]

Yes finally

Now you have a very good flame tank

Cheap as dirt

Remember to put the infantry tank mio on it

[tawdry mica]

the stats doesnt look good tbh

or does it change after the template

[austere roost]

So you don't read what I tell you

[tawdry mica]

mb

[austere roost]

Why don't you hover over the flame tank support company in division template and see what buffs it gives

[tawdry mica]

so the guy in the youtube video changed his tank to a flame tank or what

[tawdry mica]

like that?

[tawdry mica]

got it i have to switch back to howitzer ty @austere roost

[topaz yew]

hello, how do you use paratroopers?

clicking on the enemy territory after my own air base does nothing

[tawdry mica]

do u have over 70% air superiority?

[topaz yew]

i think so?

[tawdry mica]

click on it to see it

[topaz yew]

mission efficiency?

[tawdry mica]

u should see it in the bar

[topaz yew]

ah yeah, ive got 100

[tawdry mica]

then u should be able to parachute ig

[topaz yew]

and you can paraachute from provinces you have air base and military access in?

[tawdry mica]

idk i didnt try it

[topaz yew]

i dont think theres anything i can do then if not this, cuz im landlocked

[vapid depot]

is there a glitch that doesnt allow players to select the 'uplift the rosenberg office' focus? cause i click it, it selects it, and after a day just cancels with no pop-up or anything, just stops

[tawdry mica]

i think u can only parachute from ur home country but im not sure

[topaz yew]

do any transport planes have that range?

to taiwan or japan

[tawdry mica]

did u try range improvements research?

[topaz yew]

yeqa but that doesnt affect transport planes?

[tawdry mica]

i dont think so then

[topaz yew]

this cant be right

my only other option is just waiting

since i cant unify china now because then im fighting the allies

oh wonderful it works now, no idea why it didnt earlier

[tawdry mica]

oh nice

[topaz yew]

okay on earth am i meant to do this, 1 devvision died instantly, so id need like 500 transport planes

and thats like 1950

[tawdry mica]

why did he died

[topaz yew]

cuz theres only 1 of him

he got attacked by 1 japanese division

[tawdry mica]

damn

[topaz yew]

i am very very confused on what to do

because the chinese or the allies are not touching japan at all

and i cant because i dont have the industry or ports

[tawdry mica]

are u playing history mode

[topaz yew]

yeah

[tawdry mica]

so japan will be in war with usa or no

[topaz yew]

do i just need to sit here doing absolutely nothing for 2 more years?

[tawdry mica]

yea thats the thing

[topaz yew]

surely thast cant be intended

[tawdry mica]

u could try build urself up like construction and tanks

then try to get a port and move them

[topaz yew]

how do i get a port?

im landlocked

[tawdry mica]

what are u neighbor countrys

[topaz yew]

china

[tawdry mica]

no one else?

[topaz yew]

noone who isnt in the union

and theyre all in the war with the allies

[tawdry mica]

thats terrible tbh

[glacial steeple]

just fight the allies

war game and all

with comchina you should be faster anyway tho

[topaz yew]

as this?

[glacial steeple]

yeah

you have cores on china

your issue is that you were too scared to just eat up the warlords with manual war goals ASAP

[vapid depot]

is there a glitch that doesnt allow players to select the 'uplift the rosenberg office' focus? cause i click it, it selects it, and after a day just cancels with no pop-up or anything, just stops

[glacial steeple]

and then let china have all the eco and war partifipation

theres barely any airfields and ai cant make them

the allies will only really majorly assist with ground troops

[topaz yew]

i tried doing that following the yt vvideo but it was barely possible

[glacial steeple]

which means the supply for your enemies is awful

you can win

[topaz yew]

so theres no way to do a realistic china wwar?

like howw it actually happened

oh ig just wwaiting

[glacial steeple]

to a degree you can

waiting is bad

because your enemy just outscales you

you need to start annexing/scaling earlier if you want it to be easier

you cant expect it to be easy if you literally do no scaling

[topaz yew]

i dont expect it to be easy, i expecet to even be able to lose

theres jut nothing going on?

[glacial steeple]

?

[topaz yew]

like i cant fight japan

[glacial steeple]

i think you get wargoals in your focus tree

[topaz yew]

that sucks its been like a 10 hour playthough

[glacial steeple]

doesnt really sound like you did much of anything

hoi4 is also faster than irl war

by like 1-3 years

[topaz yew]

i pushed japan out of china

[glacial steeple]

so you have to move faster than irl

[topaz yew]

basically on my own

id basically won by 1941

[glacial steeple]

then why didnt you do the civil war then??

[topaz yew]

i wanted to

[glacial steeple]

youre supposed to do it right after beating japan by irl timeframe

[topaz yew]

but if i did then id be fighting everyone

[glacial steeple]

just do it

[topaz yew]

united states united kingdom soviets

[glacial steeple]

yes youre gonna fight everyone thats part of playing comchina

at minimum fighting ther CUF

the*

[topaz yew]

i swear ivve seen people fighting china just as comchina?

[glacial steeple]

yeah

because they let the CUF form

[topaz yew]

well yeah i want to fight the united front

not america

[glacial steeple]

then china keeps the faction with the warlords

did you allow the CUF to form?

[topaz yew]

yeah

so like am i just softlocked now?

and i also thought you could get a white peace but that doesnt seem to happen

[sudden meadow]

what do I even do

I have like 1000 transports and it doesnt work\

I like spent a ton of stuff to make paratroopers and they're literally just useless

[topaz yew]

yeah actually definately theres meant to be a peacedeal so you can get part of manchuria? then you can declare the war

but that just didnt happen

[wind canyon]

make sure your transports are doing nothing

[topaz yew]

i looked a bit online and apparently its a glitch? where nationalist china doesnt except the white peace sometimes

[wind canyon]

they have no mision they aren't assigned to an air region

if that dosen't work split half of your partrooper army

that should work then

[topaz yew]

okay im going to try to start the civil wwawr while the allied japanese war is still ongoing and hope that they dont declare war on me?

ooohh maybe i can do a non aggression pact with the allies then start the civil war

[idle arch]

What a good inf template for soviet

[topaz yew]

damn i cant even declare wawr on china because im in the chinese united frontz

i wish the game told you joining the chinese united front softlocks you till america kills japan

[stuck garnet]

Are tanks good

[wind canyon]

yeah but not on there own

they need to be paired with either motirized or mechinized inf

[wind canyon]

id say just use what you reguarly would use for inf divs

with soviets u just get a lot more of them

[topaz yew]

I asked on the reddit and it seems like i am

[sudden meadow]

yuhhh

[wind canyon]

is it working?

[wind canyon]

wait whats going on?

[topaz yew]

There was no white peace deal after pushing japan off the continent and i cant invade them since i have no sea access. I cant leave the chinese united front or declare war on any of my neighbours. The only solution would be to wait till japan falls to america which is still in 2 years time

[wind canyon]

who needs sea access when you have paratroopers?

your in a faction with china and have the korean peninsula right?

[untold monolith]

china probably didn’t sign the peace deal

[topaz yew]

I dont have nearly enough industry for that

[topaz yew]

China has it not me

[static gazelle]

pls help someone

[wind canyon]

its beter then waiting around for two years tho no?

[static gazelle]

trying to paradrop uk but this shows up

[topaz yew]

It would probably take about the same time

[wind canyon]

asign less partroopers to the drop order untill it works

[untold monolith]

re do the order and make sure you have at least 50 planes

[static gazelle]

i have 100 planes

8 divs

[wind canyon]

at that point just restart the run if your in a position where you don't have enough industry china is proably gonan take eveything anyway

[wind canyon]

you need way more then that brother

[topaz yew]

So if i use like idk 10 paratroopers, that will take like 5 years and i doubt id kill them with jt

[static gazelle]

like how much

[wind canyon]

you need 50 transport planes

per division

[static gazelle]

so 8 times 50

like

[wind canyon]

Yes

[static gazelle]

400 or smt

fuh

[wind canyon]

somewhere around there

more is preferable

[topaz yew]

Yea thats what i feared. Seems a bit silly fir china not to accept the white peace deal