ask-for-help-here

[shrewd fulcrum]

to play as

?

[sweet summit]

yeah

[shrewd fulcrum]

uhh its kinda painful idk

never played them really

[twin fiber]

the focus tree kinda poopy but you can make it work

im currently doing world domination for it and its working well

[stuck flint]

which yall think is better

[sweet summit]

i did the civil war but i'm kinda blocked by Sikiang so run's dead 🥀

[twin fiber]

if you dont mess around wiht it much do right

[sweet summit]

The one that increases retention imo

But yeah

[twin fiber]

personally i put 10 factories on everything then add more if need be, i just swap priorities whichevers needed

how the war is looking

[sweet summit]

How'd you get Sikiang

[stuck flint]

the us joined

im so cooked

[sweet summit]

Yeah i mean they only naval invade so i hope you're german

[molten needle]

hi i need some help i did sea lion but im stuck in london

[stuck flint]

err

[sweet summit]

Try another naval invasion at dover

[stuck flint]

will britian invade norway

[molten needle]

They got 3000 fighters in the sky my cas cant make a dent

[sweet summit]

Yeah if you're controlling it

[molten needle]

i didnt do wesserbung

some guy here said invade britain first

[hasty belfry]

Can you keep People’s Militia if you flip from communist to another ideology after selecting it?

[sweet summit]

I dunno

[sweet summit]

What's the best path after the revolt

[stuck flint]

so like america joined

am I cooked

[sweet summit]

THEY ONLY NAVAL INVADE

[stuck flint]

oh

im saved

[sweet summit]

Wait you don't have London yet

Yeah you're cooked

[stuck flint]

i mean

should I try invade them

their 47% facist

[sweet summit]

The British have naval dominance making it easier for the US

Oh if they're not allied, then nah

[stuck flint]

if I hold out till 1943 they'll switch sides

[sweet summit]

Invite them to your faction

[stuck flint]

their not

fully facist yet

[sweet summit]

Just try it 🥀

[stuck flint]

should I invade russia

cant yet

[twin fiber]

Did you choose to sid with the throne or did you do the remember the revolution thing

[sweet summit]

REVOLUTION BABY

[molten needle]

What do i do?

[twin fiber]

Do the fascist path

[molten needle]

last time i reached liverpool but the british pulled all of their army at Leeds

[twin fiber]

Also make sure you did saabad pact its awesome

In my game war goals take 10 days its funny

[sweet summit]

Golden Emir right ?

How'd you take over Sikiang tho

There's like one pass to that

[twin fiber]

Sikiang is soviets?

Not on pc so cant check mb

[molten needle]

yall got any suggestions?

[twin fiber]

First estabilish naval dominance around the island so no reinforcements arrive

[stuck flint]

should I invade russia

[sweet summit]

To the top right
wait a minute

[sweet summit]

Historical Germany ?
Nah but take out the US

[stuck flint]

should I ally russia

[twin fiber]

Then micro the land battle, find tiles that 2+ of your own tiles can attack, repeat as many as need

[sweet summit]

And then maybe try a pincer ie from Alaska to Russia and Germany to Rissoa

[stuck flint]

or should I not ally russia

[sweet summit]

Ally and then betray

[stuck flint]

yes o rno

[stuck flint]

bet

[sweet summit]

One pass 🥀

[stuck flint]

i need to be at peace

🥀

[sweet summit]

Germany just split itself

[twin fiber]

Wait for someone to attack the soviets then join in once the soviets start to get pushed back a bit

[molten needle]

Bruh im gonna load my save from right before polish war i cant do this anymore

[twin fiber]

Thats what i did

[sweet summit]

No that's the one on the top right

[twin fiber]

You should be winning this

[trail reef]

when going for greater hungary is it better to keep or get rid of horothy

[molten needle]

i cant

they have the entire RAF and royal navy

they got 10 capital ships in the channel

they got 3k fighters

and the entire british army

[twin fiber]

Theres a focus that allows you to yoink some pakistan territories

Should be somewhere round top right

[sweet summit]

They're not connected 🥀
North Kashmir is though but we don't get it

I'll get all the support, then civil war then soviet then sikiang

[twin fiber]

Wait why do you need sinkiang

What focus needs that

[molten needle]

Can yall suggest anything i should do i even got an older save my airforce was weak maybe due to less amounts of planes i produced

[sweet summit]

Eh, it's nice to have it

[twin fiber]

Just focus on beefing up for the eventual soviet conquest then turn focus westwards

If do decide to go east make sure you have mountaineers

[molten needle]

is this bad?

[sweet summit]

Nah

[molten needle]

What else should i do besides this

last time i got wrecked in britain

[sweet summit]

🥀

[molten needle]

I got a save when i invaded ireland but the americans came

after fall of france do i do wesserbung or sea lion?

[trail reef]

does strikes disapear when i go to peace

[neat widget]

If you can just invade Britain now

[pure void]

Anyone know what I should be using for medium tank template? I have full research unlocked

[warped knoll]

need some help

what should i be doing

i’m building supply hubs

i’ve run out of man power

supply hubs taking way too long

building railways in the meantime

[neat widget]

oof

also did you do your formable or no?

[warped knoll]

yes

wait no

i did not

cus i did the crusade like a dumbass

[neat widget]

Oh

[warped knoll]

updated

only realized what i did after the fact

[molten needle]

why is italy cooking sk hard

[warped knoll]

now my troops are sitting and watching

[neat widget]

always keep track of formables when trying to gameplay

Oh gosh you really don't have manpower

I think you're screwed

[warped knoll]

i could’ve done it too

what i can do is scrape some divisions together, hold the line and go kill all of the liberated to create the formable

wow this run was going well too

[warped knoll]

i quit the run, going to do an italy or something idk

[pulsar violet]

How should I design my flamethrower medium tanks?

[hasty belfry]

If I want to max out all subdoctrines to get the bonuses front completing them all but don’t want to use tanks could it be viable to just build the cheapest light tank possible and fill a template completely with them and just exercise them until I complete the armored branch?

Also, would larger units grant more mastery?

[native gorge]

What's a good marine template

[hasty belfry]

It might have changed but I believe before NCNS a 9/3 plus support companies was a good one if you took the right marine doctrine path.

[molten needle]

i did wesserbung

norway almost gonna capitulate

Can anyone recommend an infantry template?

[hasty belfry]

Honestly, people’s militia should just enable adding militia to divisions.

[native gorge]

so like, is this good enough to invade the soviets 🙃

[neat widget]

what doctrines

[neat widget]

also you, which doctrines

[native gorge]

Grand Battleplan

[neat widget]

subdoctrines?

[native gorge]

Hold on the game is like 1 fps rn

[vital geode]

I assume assault infantry and fire concentration

[native gorge]

ye

[neat widget]

Ah, the die is cast

Actually

No

Just do 18/0 mountaineers

fire concentration doesn't even make artillery useful

[native gorge]

okay

slight problem

[hasty belfry]

It can, but only if the country you are playing comes with additional artillery buffs

[neat widget]

Okay right you're Sweden

Then do rangers

18/0 rangers

mountaineers are going to be less useful because you don't have that many mountains to deal with

Norway, sure, but Norway should fall quickly regardless

[hasty belfry]

Imperial Germany can get some massive buffs due to both the army tree and Imperial German exclusive bonuses.

[native gorge]

i went monarchist

lemme find rangers

[hasty belfry]

Plus, they can get an artillery chief of army that I believe grants 15% artillery attack, and +10% max planning.

[neat widget]

10 max planning?

[hasty belfry]

Maybe that.

Not sure.

It’s been a bit.

[neat widget]

But infantry also gets like a 10% attack bonus from advisors

[hasty belfry]

I’ve been trying to use tanks more on nations that can field them.

[hasty belfry]

As can artillery.

[neat widget]

So yeah, no, artillery is still less useful

[native gorge]

where does one find rangers

[hasty belfry]

Imperial Germany also gets greater than that form focuses.

[neat widget]

I know

[hasty belfry]

I think Belgium can get solid artillery buffs as well.

[native gorge]

cant find it

[neat widget]

artillery isn't that bad if you have low manpower

you do increase casualties per battle but you get to deploy more units

[native gorge]

where's rangers

Oh

OH NO

its in the mountaineers tree....

And i used marines on it

[vital geode]

No NCNS it seems

[neat widget]

Wait you have NCNS don't you?

[vital geode]

Or are we talking recon rangers

[neat widget]

I see the scroll

[neat widget]

But still if no forest rangers then go for mountaineers

[native gorge]

i dont have the dlc

[neat widget]

And then go 18/0 then 20/0 later on

[sweet summit]

Holy 🥀

[native gorge]

i think this is from RT56

or not

idk

[vital geode]

If there is a scroll and no NCNS DLC, and you have R56, that must mean shock troops

[neat widget]

huuuuh

[vital geode]

We love breakthrough divisions

[neat widget]

shock troop divisions aren't bad either

[vital geode]

Shock troops are R56's special forces

[native gorge]

so i do this

[vital geode]

I believe they are very strong

[neat widget]

Yeah

I'm honestly not sure if I fully believe in the supremacy of shock troops

[vital geode]

Marines are good though

[neat widget]

We are talking about Sweden after all, so I'd do rangers in this situation due to forests

Yeah special forces are just good

[vital geode]

River crossing bonus and amphibious attack bonus is nice

[neat widget]

How you rank them is idk

Speaking of

[vital geode]

You also get special forces buff and inf buff

Mech buff too if amtraks

[neat widget]

If you have to attack the Soviets but Finland is not involved in the war

It's no wonder why you picked marine doctrine

[vital geode]

That moment when the Swedish fleet can compete against the Russian Baltic fleet

[neat widget]

Yeah

[native gorge]

Oh its non historical

I just went marines because my infantry template cant even naval invade Latvia 😭

[neat widget]

Yeah makes sense

Totally reasonable

[native gorge]

pretending this is shock troops for now, what do i change

[neat widget]

light tank recon + hospitals + flame tanks + assault engineers

[native gorge]

got no flame tanks, might buy nsb soon before the sale goes out tho

until then what else

[vital geode]

Support AA and field hospitals are your friends

Assault engineers are base game I believe

[neat widget]

Yes and yes

[vital geode]

Regular engineers should work fine if you dont have a land research facility and cant be bothered with it

[neat widget]

Yeah that too

But I'd build one

[native gorge]

Oh which project are assault engineers

[neat widget]

military engineering vehicles

[native gorge]

Ah

So assault and armored engineers are in the same project

Gotcha

Alright

[neat widget]

You're doing tanks aren't you

Second doctrine should be self propelled support and barring that mobile recon and assault

fourth doctrine should be grand assault

[molten needle]

do i do sea lion? I got 2k+ planes

[molten needle]

alr thanks

[neat widget]

If you can you can do it

It's a bit late though, the US will join the war soon

But if you knock out the UK you can prevent the US from intervening on the continent

[quick forum]

if i can sealion, where should i naval invade the uk

like what province and cities

[vital geode]

Via the channel

[quick forum]

Very unspecific

[vital geode]

Dover, port right of London are my go to

Portsmouth also good

Those 3 ports are pretty good

[molten needle]

they got a lot of armies at portsmouth

[quick forum]

Dover greater london area?

[molten needle]

inpenetrable

[molten needle]

yes

[vital geode]

Yeah, those are good

[molten needle]

Im doing this

[quick forum]

Are those the key areas for getting ports and bringing my army to the isle

[vital geode]

Surrounding Dover is best to secure a port

[molten needle]

yea

[vital geode]

However, you really need 2 ports, otherwise you are going to struggle

[neat widget]

There's way too many troops to send to two tiles

[vital geode]

Also please have green air before you naval invade

[quick forum]

So dover and london it is?

[neat widget]

I guarantee you they are attacking three ports

Perhaps even four

[quick forum]

yeah i couldnt knock their fighthers off so i had red air in england

[vital geode]

Well

You are not going to have fun when landing

[quick forum]

yeah..

[vital geode]

Also, the UK can naval embargo you, requiring you to maintain supremacy constantly

Or you cant reinforce losses

[quick forum]

whats naval embargo

[vital geode]

So your troops will slowly get strength deleted

[neat widget]

Yeah

Wait naval embargo?

[vital geode]

So you know what an embargo is

[neat widget]

You mean convoy raiding

[vital geode]

No

Naval embargo

[molten needle]

do port strikes with air craft

[neat widget]

What does naval embargo have to do with it

[quick forum]

i can maintain my naval supremacy ish using my planes and weak navy

[neat widget]

That stops your trade

[vital geode]

I got naval embargoed and it literally cut all ties to England

[quick forum]

What is naval embargo bro

[neat widget]

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[quick forum]

Is it like where they straight up bomb my convoys

[neat widget]

WHAT?!?!

[vital geode]

Do you know what an embargo is?

[quick forum]

isnt it like sanctions

[vital geode]

Yeah

[quick forum]

also you cant trade with them

[vital geode]

And it cuts your trade

And maybe supply

[molten needle]

Do i do this gng?

[vital geode]

I swear I wasn't really getting convoy raided

[quick forum]

so no supply?? Is that whutyu mean

[neat widget]

Continue

[vital geode]

Look at my Germany video and check my Sealion there

I was naval embargoed, but I didn't see any convoy raided

[quick forum]

Ok

[quick forum]

Does dover have only 1 infantry defending?

[native gorge]

Christ i may need to restart my pc this entire conversation has been going on and not even a week passed

[vital geode]

Im looking as well to see if im right or wrong

[molten needle]

im kaput

[quick forum]

How are you able to send like mutliple naval invasions

[neat widget]

last stand

[molten needle]

nah i got a save right before this ima try to micro manage

[quick forum]

Without it saying i cant assign this div to this naval plan

[vital geode]

I was just getting convoy raided @neat widget

The embargo didn't help though

[quick forum]

Btuh

[molten needle]

Is this much airforce enough

[vital geode]

I assume this message meant I was getting none of the British resources due to no naval supremacy

[molten needle]

bro u gotta tell me step by step what you did sfter your divisions landed

im playing no dlc

[vital geode]

I microed a lot

[neat widget]

Huh

[vital geode]

The embargo message was probably due to me not getting British resources

[vital geode]

Basically land around the ports, secure the ports. Secure the air and provide CAS

I originally forgot to modify my air design from a mediocre one and did not have green air initially

[molten needle]

i used all my military factorys on fighters and got 2.4k BF 109

[vital geode]

Dont forget to actually send troops to land on the port as well

[vital geode]

No DLC, right?

Hope you have them engine 5

Maybe improve guns a bit too

[sly estuary]

yes lol i did sea lion with 1.2k planes once

took a lot of micromanaging

but it is possible

grind their navy and then when you make a landing use close air support

[molten needle]

I keep doing invasions but they completely push me back once i land

[sly estuary]

are you capturing naval bases

capable of giving supply

[molten needle]

yea

dover

and sometimes portsmouth

[sly estuary]

are you losing immediately after landing or do the offensives fail and you get pushed back

[molten needle]

i lose almost immideately

[scenic salmon]

might be a supply issue then, if u dont have a port to supply them then theyll die quickly, if you have a port and lack of supplies, it means the navy cant bring supplies to your troops due to low naval supremacy

[molten needle]

do i send my army in?

[neat widget]

Yeah

What can you do without your army

You have like 8 divisions there

[molten needle]

im send three armies at dover rn

i sent my cas and fighters to england

[sly estuary]

hmm well this depends on a lot of factors like the amount of soft attack your divisions have and aerial superiority

for a successful sealion I generally capture the air base in front of London and immediately encircle the city to destroy any units and cut their supply, at least that's the method I have always found to be efficient.

Ensure your planes are providing close air support damage and once you land, attempt to gain some more ground immediately because the longer you take, the more time the british AI has to stabilize

plus the combat width on a single tile is atrocious

so you really want to start gaining ground fast

[neat widget]

Yeah

However mainland France should be close enough to provide CAS support

[molten needle]

they just blitzkreiged me i only have dover left

should i do it again from last save?

[neat widget]

Yes

And this time bring your army

[sly estuary]

yes keep practicing on non-ironman until you are ready for the real deal

[molten needle]

ok

[neat widget]

also last stand if you have to

[molten needle]

as soon as i land i send my armies?

[neat widget]

As soon as you get a port yes

[native gorge]

Actually wait a minute

Im playing Sweden

I can use bicycle divisions

Could i use that?

[neat widget]

They don't bring particular attack stats

But movement stats yes

so no they aren't recommended when you're facing such a larger enemy

but once they start collapsing then yes

[native gorge]

What if:

Shock troops for breakthroughs

And bicycles for encirclements

[neat widget]

Possible?

[sly estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hotd-house-of-the-dragon-obcrack-hotd-a-fine-strategy-good-plan-gif-3075556131852388900

[molten needle]

Chat am i cooked?

[neat widget]

last stand and let them recover

also what's with the supply

[sly estuary]

@molten needle Why not try dispersing your units more

Because when you death stack like that

[molten needle]

when i land?

[sly estuary]

It leads to supply issues

[sly estuary]

Before

[neat widget]

Also how's the CAS situations

[sly estuary]

As part of the invasion

[neat widget]

No they don't have anywhere else to deploy units

[molten needle]

they are taking their sweet time to reach england unfortunately

[sly estuary]

I know I'm saying before landing on the british island maybe it would work to utilize more naval invasions in different spots because southern britain looks heavily fortified

[molten needle]

should i naval invade bristol?

[neat widget]

If only

[sly estuary]

Experiment

Me personally

[molten needle]

they first leave dover and portsmouth unguarded then they bomb rush me

[sly estuary]

With the amount of divisions you have it looks like you could make a fairly great "blitzkrieg diversion strategy", where all your units are everywhere and your enemy can't respond effectively. I would naval invade portsmouth, dover, bristol, and the airbase in front of london. It would send the British AI scrambling. But this is all experimental, of course

[molten needle]

they station their entire army at london and plymouth

[sly estuary]

Have you checked your maximum naval invasion capacity and limit

Press shift+E

And go to the admiral

[molten needle]

Oh yea

base value 1

[sly estuary]

🥀

[sly estuary]

You had two naval invasions active in an earlier screenshot

Anyway my point being

[molten needle]

yea

[sly estuary]

Get at least 4 naval ports in different locations at one time

The AI tends to panic when this happens

And their units are more uncoordinated

Thus weak points for your tanks to break through

Plus with less units stacked on a single tile it'll fix the supply issue

But you have to disperse your units

do you understand what i'm saying or nah

[molten needle]

yea

i only got two ports rn

[molten needle]

uh so the thing is i dont have tanks yet

[sly estuary]

Do you have a save file before landing any units

[sly estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-the-what-the-hell-wtf-gif-8562994133044611418

[molten needle]

Now hear me out

[sly estuary]

may 1941 germany

[molten needle]

i do have a save where i got till liverpool

[sly estuary]

zero tanks?!

[molten needle]

3 light tanks division

[sly estuary]

may I see the template

[molten needle]

its the base template like we are talking 1936

[sly estuary]

🥀💔

😭

[molten needle]

in this i dont got good airforce

I got medium tanks in this save

panzer 4

[sly estuary]

I see a few issues

Firstly

[sweet summit]

Micro 🥀💀🙏

Half of your army is just sitting there 🥀

[molten needle]

This isnt microable vro

i did ts for. 3 hrs micro aint possible

wait

[sly estuary]

My number one rule for sea lion is:
encircle, encircle, encircle. You never want to allow the british AI to stabilize. Attack at every moment. If you do it correctly, you can destroy almost all of their units and taking the rest of the island is a breeze. However the beginning stage of the invasion determines everything

[molten needle]

imntaking plumouth

[sly estuary]

I wish I could load my old sea lion file to show ya but this game decided to oof every file before the update

[molten needle]

good news i took plymouth and the brits down the coast

but

my armies are encircled at machester and liverpool

should i evacuate

[uneven hinge]

Which of these two subdoctrines should I go with if I plan to use mech troops?

[open lynx]

Probably the one on the right it js seems better

You get soft attack breakthrough and defense

[molten needle]

@sly estuary what do i do

[young hill]

win

[molten needle]

bruh

[stuck flint]

am I cooked?

[native gorge]

So uh i did a new run and, i dont think i was meant to research shock troops that early into the game

Because it straight up doesnt appear

Ill restart

And see if it's the same

[neat widget]

As long as you don't get reinforce memed you're fine

[neat widget]

Not the battleplan

[neat widget]

You're still on rt56

[native gorge]

Yes

[neat widget]

huuuuuuh

That shouldn't happen

[tepid umbra]

Wdym

[neat widget]

They should always be there

[neat widget]

you should not be battleplanning in this situation, you need to get across the pyrenees first

[tepid umbra]

Is that the northern spain mountains idk mountain names

[neat widget]

Yes

It's the border mountains

[stuck flint]

british is 53 facist

dem is 37

[neat widget]

?

[neat widget]

I mean you can try starting a coup

[stuck flint]

the british might join us soon

[tepid umbra]

Tf

[tepid umbra]

They won't leave the war

[stuck flint]

WHAT

I THOUGHT THE POINT

😭

NOOOO

[neat widget]

Also that

[tepid umbra]

If you stage a coup the other side will join you

[stuck flint]

HOW DID THEY WIN?

[tepid umbra]

War

[stuck flint]

how do I get their stab down

[tepid umbra]

They prolly didn't hold elections

[tepid umbra]

Lower war support

[stuck flint]

How do I do that?

[tepid umbra]

Bombing, convoy raiding, causualties, sinking pride of the fleet, and like one other thing i forgot i think

[neat widget]

nukes

[coarse finch]

You can also use spies to lower it

[tepid umbra]

They dont have dlcs

[coarse finch]

Oh right

[native gorge]

Yep nothing changed, its still gone

[neat widget]

why are you battleplanning

your tanks are also half strength

The fact that you have such a foothold in the UK itself is quite a feat

you can also detach a few units to do a naval invasion, or you can form a collab government

[molten needle]

i got no doc

dlc

[neat widget]

Ah I see

Then yeah just hold get some cas up and they'll exhaust themselves

And also don't forget to micro

[molten needle]

i put all my armies on hold

yea

If i naval invade glasgow i win right?

[native gorge]

I think its because a mod is on like version .13

Lemme turn that off

[stuck flint]

im gonna cry

THIS IS THE 30th TIME IVE LOST AS GERMANY

[molten needle]

ironman mode?

[stuck flint]

no

im new

its just historical

[molten needle]

what year?

[native gorge]

I dont think nationalist spain is supposed to look like that color...

[stuck flint]

They keep losing

Man I just wanna win 1 game

[native gorge]

How does that even happen

Never in my entire time playing this did that happen

[stuck flint]

Guess I wont

[tepid umbra]

Send volunteers

[stuck flint]

They

Won't let me

Im go be sad now

Until I win a match

[tepid umbra]

Do the focus then

[stuck flint]

wont let me

[stuck flint]

how do I

[native gorge]

Germany was on a civil war and Italy was still busy in Ethiopia once

And nationalists still win

Damn your Franco must be a fraud

[stuck flint]

actually win

[tepid umbra]

Soviets must've been locked

[stuck flint]

so

did I do something wrong

[molten needle]

OMG I DEFEATED UK

OMG

[native gorge]

Maybe your templates?

[molten needle]

I DID IT

[stuck flint]

They said not to touch them

[stuck flint]

So their the basic

[native gorge]

Who

[tepid umbra]

Gg

[native gorge]

Said that

[molten needle]

Should i make uk puppet?

[sweet summit]

🥀

[molten needle]

pls help me with the peace conference

[native gorge]

Guys are Germany's base templates even good?

Actually

[stuck flint]

.

[native gorge]

Hold on

[sweet summit]

Beat the Soviet union as afghanistan when they were having a civil war

🥀

What do I take over

[tepid umbra]

I mean the inf isn't bad

[neat widget]

Nice

[sweet summit]

Olive come help 🥀

[tepid umbra]

Who are you playing

[sweet summit]

Afghanistan

[molten needle]

Can u help with peace conference pls

[native gorge]

I dont think ive seen motorized be used without tanks

[sweet summit]

What do I take over 🥀

[tepid umbra]

I cant help i've never played them

I dont even have the dlc

[sweet summit]

Peace conference 🙏

How does this work

[tepid umbra]

Annex everything

Peace conference with whom

[sweet summit]

At gotcha

Iran, SSR, turkey

[tepid umbra]

Annex iran

Try and annex most of turkey

[sweet summit]

1360 point with me, 500 iran, 300 ssr, 175 turkey

[molten needle]

can anyone help me woth the peace conference

[sweet summit]

They're in my faction 🥀

[tepid umbra]

Oh

I mean who are you annexing

[sweet summit]

Soviet union

[tepid umbra]

Annex stuff in europe, puppet outside of europe

[stuck flint]

is it because

I have

tet

yet

i didnt have this 2 years before

[tepid umbra]

Take the caucasus and some of the stan countries's land

[native gorge]

Resistance? How bad is it

[molten needle]

ok

[stuck flint]

im

actually gonna cry

this is the 20th time Ive lost

[tepid umbra]

I mean could be worse

[tepid umbra]

Were you out of fuel

Also btw, help italy in africe for a bit

[native gorge]

Okay so uh

Fill your garrison template with just horses and Military Police

Put it on martial law

That should help it out (unless you run out of manpower)

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Try and take doen to sudan

[molten needle]

do i puppet or take europe

poland*

[tepid umbra]

One horse is optimal

[molten needle]

do i puppet or take poland

[tepid umbra]

Take poland

[molten needle]

Ok

[stuck flint]

soviets

taking

romania

and hungary

[tepid umbra]

Take everything in europe, even the uk, and puppet out of europe

[stuck flint]

im gonna cry man

[tepid umbra]

Maybe let italy take africa tho

[tepid umbra]

Why declare on the soviets

[stuck flint]

i didnt

they declared

on hungary

and romania

and not me

[tepid umbra]

Huh

[stuck flint]

i kicked themo ut

[tepid umbra]

Are you playing hist

[native gorge]

He is

At least that's what he says

[stuck flint]

OH

GOD DAMNIT

they

broke the truce

:

wait

err

is their an way

for me to go back

with my saves

so I can save this round

[stuck flint]

its always historical

is that bad

[tepid umbra]

No

[stuck flint]

its good?

so like

I legit

focused on my airforce

I had

8 armys

0 tank armys

[sweet summit]

I took a ton of oil 🔥

[tepid umbra]

Son

[stuck flint]

all of them were fully supplied

[tepid umbra]

What were the divs

[sweet summit]

Sp art 🔥

[sweet summit]

I think he used 18w infantry 🥀

[tepid umbra]

😋

[tepid umbra]

Not even bad

[native gorge]

Un-fing-changed

[tepid umbra]

Better than 1.7 width

[stuck flint]

the template

was normal

[tepid umbra]

I mean default inf isn't horrible

[stuck flint]

i

[tepid umbra]

Default tanks are

[stuck flint]

focused on the airforce

[tepid umbra]

Add anti air support comp tho

[stuck flint]

I had complete air suppiroity over the english channel

and

[sweet summit]

I don't have an airforce 🥀

[stuck flint]

london

so

why did I fail

Why do I keep failing

[native gorge]

Did you paradrop?

[stuck flint]

And why does my supplys keep getting low

[sweet summit]

Prolly cuz no tanks 🥀

[stuck flint]

no

I dont know how to

[stuck flint]

I GOT NO DLCS

[native gorge]

Naval bombers?

[sweet summit]

You might need a floating harbor

[stuck flint]

no naval bombers

[tepid umbra]

What kind of supply

[stuck flint]

they said to spam cas and fighters

[native gorge]

Thats why

Because you tried to naval invade the British

[sweet summit]

How's this template ?

[native gorge]

Y'know

[sweet summit]

MILLS

[native gorge]

The one nation with one of the biggest fleets

Also

CHRIST ABOVE 🙏

THAT'S A DEFICIT I ONLY SEE ON HOLLOWBEING VIDEOS

[tepid umbra]

Bad

[tepid umbra]

Don't shit out divs

[native gorge]

so your divisions are obviously undersupplied in the sense they have zero guns

[tepid umbra]

And how many mils did you have on guns

[stuck flint]

i had

40

MILS

[tepid umbra]

Also don't battleplan into mountains

[stuck flint]

on guns

AND

I HAD

GOD DAM

300 MILS

IN TOTAL

[tepid umbra]

I've seen worse in my own games

And i've won them

[neat widget]

add another row of mech, add support aa, and replace engineers and support artillery with assault engineers and medium flame tanks

[neat widget]

you're losing 639 guns a day

find out what's behind that

[tepid umbra]

Shouldn't you add 2 more sp art

[stuck flint]

its going to upgrade

[tepid umbra]

It's prolly their front getting baragged

[tepid umbra]

Upgrade doesn't count towards deficits

[neat widget]

yeah fifth row though

[tepid umbra]

Thought so

[stuck flint]

yea im cooked

[sweet summit]

🥀 i dunno how to get that fifth row

[sweet summit]

Don't have assualt engineers or medium flame tanks 🥀

[tepid umbra]

Are you using that sp art as afghanistan????

Why

[stuck flint]

HOW

I STILL HAVE

THE GERMAN RIECH

[tepid umbra]

Ai peace conferences are dumb

You can't come back tho

[native gorge]

Honestly if you dont wanna bother figuring out supply (cause God knows i definitely wont) just get the BetterSupply mod

Also yeah, get naval bombers if you arent gonna build a fk all fleet and if you want to naval invade

[sweet summit]

It's 1938 🥀
I just shat them out for their speed

[tepid umbra]

Unless you get paratroopers

[tepid umbra]

Dudeee

[stuck flint]

so like

[sweet summit]

9.7km/h

[stuck flint]

can someone

people

tell me

how to actually win

as germany

im on the brink of crying my eyes out

[tepid umbra]

Not only are they prolly not that good, but also the supply usage will drain your stockpiles

[stuck flint]

THIS IS THE 20th LOST

LOSS*

[sweet summit]

Watch a video, that helps me a ton 🥀

[tepid umbra]

There's no one trick

[stuck flint]

IVE TRIED EVERYTHING

IVE GOTTEN 16 ARMYS

AN FULL AIRFORCE

[tepid umbra]

Not if you dont have the sp art

[stuck flint]

AN FULL ONLY TANK ARMY

I CANT WIN

[native gorge]

Hold on

[tepid umbra]

Numbers don't always mean good

[native gorge]

JUST tanks?

Like no motorized

[sweet summit]

7.7 🥀

[tepid umbra]

Your supplies are prolly running out

[stuck flint]

THEY WERE FULLY

SUPPLIED

[native gorge]

Give me that template again

[neat widget]

It's something you can get, for the interim then you keep the engineers and probably use signals or something

[native gorge]

The tank template

[tepid umbra]

Were they good tanks?

[sweet summit]

He doesn't have that remember

[stuck flint]

they were panzer IVS

man

[tepid umbra]

They're running afghan 😭

[stuck flint]

AT THIS POINT

im gonna use my christmas money

to buy an DLC

[tepid umbra]

I mean divisions

[stuck flint]

I CANT HAVE FUN

[sweet summit]

I have 2 research slots 🥀

[stuck flint]

IM GONNA CRY MAN

I JUST WANNA ACTUALLY SUCCED

[sweet summit]

Same here 🥀

[tepid umbra]

Play someone else

[sweet summit]

Play as.. a minor power and bully other minor powers

[tepid umbra]

No one is forcing you to play germany

[sweet summit]

Sikiang has a nice two war goals

Japan bullies China

Just don't fucck with US

[stuck flint]

bro

i wanna play germany

i just

wanna win though

[sweet summit]

🥀aight suffer

[stuck flint]

please man

NERF vanilla american ai

TO DOGSHIT

[tepid umbra]

Play ahist

[sweet summit]

You need to know how to paratroop and all that 🥀

[tepid umbra]

Oh that's why you might be losing

[stuck flint]

so turn off historical?

[tepid umbra]

Go faster

[sweet summit]

I'm too dumb

[stuck flint]

the british navy

[tepid umbra]

Us joins in 1941

[stuck flint]

be too powerful

[sweet summit]

Nice point

[native gorge]

Oh right

[tepid umbra]

And the british get super strong the longer you take

[stuck flint]

i saw the us once join in 1943

without historical

[native gorge]

Like i said

Get naval bombers

[tepid umbra]

It can change but they're supposed to join 1941

[sweet summit]

You can take France pretty soon as they have a disjointed gov.

[stuck flint]

so when should I invade britian

1940?

[sweet summit]

1939

[stuck flint]

i had france finished in 1940 🥀

poland in 1938

[native gorge]

Get naval bombers

[tepid umbra]

Go quicker

[sweet summit]

France in the early game capitulates early due to disjointed gov.
You only need Paris iirc

[tepid umbra]

Tf

[tepid umbra]

Not only paris

But basically only paris

[sweet summit]

Yeah

But they fix that pretty soon so rush them

[native gorge]

You can also be scum and just paradrop all the major cities

[sweet summit]

Use the chest instant war goals

[stuck flint]

Alright

heres my plan for the next game

[sweet summit]

I'd do that if I knew how to paratroop 🥀

[stuck flint]

get 1940 fighter

SPAM

[tepid umbra]

Just type annex all

[stuck flint]

building civs in one single ara

[tepid umbra]

Eh not really

[stuck flint]

then oil refin

and mils

and

invade poland

[tepid umbra]

Build civs only in 1936

[stuck flint]

with 9 armys while the other defends the french boarder

and

then

get 3 tank armys

and send france back to space

[tepid umbra]

I think your issue is your thinking in army numbers

[stuck flint]

their fully trained

[native gorge]

Simple

Get air superiority

Select three paratroopers seperately (or maybe just 1, it worked for me when i paradropped france as italy) in every major city

And go

[stuck flint]

and fully supplied

[tepid umbra]

You should have however much you can get

[stuck flint]

yes

[tepid umbra]

But that takes time

[stuck flint]

if I SEE

yellow

I delete it

I could do 20 divisions per month

in 1938

[tepid umbra]

You're waiting til 1940 cuz you're getting too many

[tepid umbra]

But can 40 mils on inf equip keep up

[sweet summit]

How do I build an air force

[tepid umbra]

You don't as afghanistan lol

[stuck flint]

so

I should

[sweet summit]

🥀

[stuck flint]

get france in 1937?

[tepid umbra]

Maybe get the techs rsearched and you can put one or 2 mils on them

[tepid umbra]

No?

[stuck flint]

1938?

[tepid umbra]

Why are you going to war so quickly tf

[sweet summit]

I have 23 mills 💀

[tepid umbra]

I dont invade poland til 1939

[native gorge]

Just go at Germany's normal pace

[stuck flint]

i invaded in 1938

and

finished it in 1938 august

I found out

[tepid umbra]

Ok

[stuck flint]

if I have naval dominotion in the sea

french troops cant land in poland

[tepid umbra]

But you're waiting til 1940 to kill france

[tepid umbra]

They don't really in the first place

Esp if you cap them quick enough

[stuck flint]

i also had these.

[stuck flint]

so

i should focus on air

and get at least 8 to 12 armys fully supplied by 1939?

or

[tepid umbra]

What are the other default inf ones

[stuck flint]

how many I can get

[tepid umbra]

Jesus bro

[stuck flint]

should I keep playing historical

[native gorge]

Yeah dont even try to get navy

Also 12 armies in 1939 is unheard of for me

[tepid umbra]

Don't think about the army counts, but i only get like 5 and that's enough for world conq

[tepid umbra]

Yes sure

[stuck flint]

ive gotton 14 in 1940

[tepid umbra]

I can get more

[stuck flint]

i wanna

[native gorge]

It took me like 1941 to get a full army group as italy

[stuck flint]

like 1 shot the soviet union

[native gorge]

Then again they were chonky

[tepid umbra]

But then i'd need to supply them and send them places

[tepid umbra]

Aight bro that's too long 😭

[stuck flint]

they were fully supplied and trained before auto deployed

I still dont know how i lost

[tepid umbra]

If you have an army

And they go to war

Does every gun get kept

[native gorge]

Its mainly cause it was working well enough that i didnt even bother making more troops

Then Germany declared war on the us (nonhistorical) and only then did i have to make a full army group

[tepid umbra]

And do the men stay at the same level of experience in the war

What im saying is guns aren't magic

They break, they get stolen, they get lost

So you need to resupply divisions

And if you don't have the factories to do that, your men wont have guns even if they had them in the past

[stuck flint]

No

So

100 factorys for infantry?

[tepid umbra]

No

Less divisions

[tepid umbra]

.

[native gorge]

You're Germany not the goddamn soviets dont put so many troops with guns you know wont last long

[stuck flint]

What about 8

[tepid umbra]

Yeah lol

[tepid umbra]

5 is fine

[stuck flint]

6?

[tepid umbra]

Remember there are supply hubs too

[tepid umbra]

Maybe

[stuck flint]

I built like 80 of them

1 tank army or nah

[tepid umbra]

Omg bruh

[native gorge]

Brother what year are you on

[tepid umbra]

Sure

[stuck flint]

I had max construction in 41

[native gorge]

Supply hubs take like FOREVER to make

[stuck flint]

To be fair

It took me

Till 1941 to get 1 tank army

So like

I also

Have christmas money

Should I just get a dlc

[native gorge]

Yes

Certainly

[stuck flint]

Recommendations?

[stuck flint]

But if I cant win as germany without an dlc won't it be harder

[tepid umbra]

No step back

[tepid umbra]

No lol

[stuck flint]

Should I still try and win without an dlx

Dlx

Dlx

[native gorge]

No Step Back for tank customization, extra military buffs, railway guns and more supply choices

Arms Against Tyranny for Military Industrial Organization (gives extra buffs for equipment specific to them) and the International Market (buy and sell equipment using factories)

And for the less recommended, By Blood Alone for Plane customization and more options in treaties, and Götterdammerung for a bigger Germany focus tree (this one's more expensive than everything else)

[stuck flint]

Dlc

[tepid umbra]

Sure

[native gorge]

@stuck flint

[stuck flint]

I cant decide 😭

[tepid umbra]

Gotterdammerung only expands ahist really

[tepid umbra]

No step back

[native gorge]

Fair

[stuck flint]

Is no step back rhe best for me

[native gorge]

NSB also expands soviet, polish, and baltic focus trees, AAT's for the Nordics, BBA is Italy (and probably other countries i cant be bothered to remember) and Götterdammerung are all the German Speaking states (except the Dutch, i think) + Belgium

[stuck flint]

Oh wait

I wonder

If I have 4 heavy tabk army's

How fast could I steal the soviets

[tepid umbra]

Gtd is dutch too iirc

[tepid umbra]

Are you making heavies

[tepid umbra]

Bba adds ethiopia and swiss

And the belgians speak german

Hungarians dont really iirc

[native gorge]

Oh bruh I thought the swiss were on gtd

[tepid umbra]

No i dont think so

[pine cape]

can someone help me with naval invasions

[tepid umbra]

What are you having problems with

[pine cape]

i cant start it

even when i have supiriority

[tepid umbra]

Do you have supremacy

Has it been planned out

[pine cape]

i think it has but idk how to check that

[tepid umbra]

Hover over the go arrow and send a screenshot

[pine cape]

i can stream it for you?

[tepid umbra]

Cant join call

[native gorge]

For some reason picking the farmer's party on sweden just doesnt give me the guy with War Support increase

[pine cape]

also it says that i dont have any convoys

[native gorge]

That

[pine cape]

and that i have 0 divisions

[native gorge]

That explains it

[tepid umbra]

How many naval invasion plans do you have

[pine cape]

but i got like 400 in reserve

[native gorge]

Convoys are basically for transporting everything on the water

[tepid umbra]

You need to put guys on the plan

[native gorge]

Equipment

Soldiers

[tepid umbra]

He has convoys

[native gorge]

Huh

Odd

[tepid umbra]

Problem is he doesn't have divisiond assigned to the plan

[tepid umbra]

No

[native gorge]

Oh wait I understand now

[tepid umbra]

It says 0 convoys cuz that's the amount of convoys it takes to move 0 people

[pine cape]

huh?

[molten needle]

do i now invade ussr or usa

[tepid umbra]

Your guys aren't actually in the plan

[pine cape]

ill send you a ss let it load

[tepid umbra]

No i understand

[pine cape]

how do i get them in the plan

[tepid umbra]

You have to click on your army with your guys, then find the plan at the bottom that says division assignment mode, click that, and click the invasion

[tepid umbra]

Usa

They're light work

[pine cape]

oke lemme check

[pine cape]

wheres that exactly

[native gorge]

Okay try this

Select the troops you want to use

Press ctrl