ask-for-help-here

[cold bloom]

Very early you can allow you to get away with it without allied involvement I think

Ignore the bad English

[stuck flint]

yea

its uh

too early for that

I and I only got 1 army tank division right now

so

Im wondering if I should wait to get 1 more

[stuck flint]

so whatcha think?

Welp

I needed more tank divisions

so i lost

[tepid umbra]

you don't need tanks to cap poland

it's useful but not necessary

[stuck flint]

My infantry

keeps

just

not 1 shotting them

they take till 1942 to fully cap 😭

I GOT NO DLCS

[tepid umbra]

ok?

build sufficient air

and use the right support companies

and they will crumble

[stuck flint]

err

so

spam j-87 production?

and train them?

[tepid umbra]

idk what the plane names are

[stuck flint]

the stuka is ground attack

[tepid umbra]

get enough fighters to have good green air

and get cas

[tepid umbra]

have like 5-10 mils on fighters

and 10-15 on cas

[stuck flint]

got it

[analog maple]

Guys, is this still a good division? I'm not sure if it's still viable cause it a littile old

[stuck flint]

Which is a good idea

[tepid umbra]

if you can afford mecha you can prolly afford tanks instead of the motorized artillery

[tepid umbra]

wait for reichswerke

[tepid umbra]

also line art is not that good, and neither is the anti tank for ai

[stuck flint]

okay

[hexed parcel]

did like

a singular person ever play hoi1?

info on the internet is so scarce that it seems like it

how do i even fking go to the settings and turn off that damn music

[tepid umbra]

I mean yeah

[inner sparrow]

never was good

[inner sparrow]

krupp

tho krupp is for mp

u prob don’t need it for sp

[inner sparrow]

line arty is beyond dogshit for pushing, even worse in old updates

also no reason for at in singleplayer

[analog maple]

ok tx

[tepid umbra]

it's not even that bad tbh

but the org losses are horrid

[hexed parcel]

there is absolutely no info about anything on the internet

abt this game

[inner sparrow]

it is for pushing

its not as bad for defence

but for pushing it is very bad

only reason is that ai has such shit divs that it isn’t that punishing

[hexed parcel]

im joking ofc but its so little

[tepid umbra]

real lol

[versed rose]

can we get some line arty breakthrough please paradox

'no you get soft attack, and more soft attack, and nothing but soft attack'

but that's not what we need sire

[tepid umbra]

use motorized

arty

[versed rose]

a whopping 5 extra breakthrough

[tepid umbra]

I mean what else would you use arty for

[versed rose]

if this game was any more realistic, arty would be god tier at both attacking or defending

but unfortunately, arty gets relegated to low-mid tier because of how stats work

[glacial steeple]

for attack you want things like breakthrough

arty doesnt give that

it doesnt give hp

[tepid umbra]

it doesn't?

[glacial steeple]

org is like nothingburger on offensive divs so its fine

[glacial steeple]

less than tanks even

its bleak

[tepid umbra]

i don't think I like ever used line art in divs so I wouldn't know ❤️‍🩹

[tepid umbra]

yikesss

[versed rose]

line arty has 0.6 hp

for 3w

kidding me

[red sundial]

Can someone teach me how to play better?

[tepid umbra]

you learn best from doing

you can also read pins for some help

[sleek remnant]

Pins would be a good start
You wouldn’t learn much by yourself since lots of stuff work in single player and unless you calculate the stuff yourself, it might not be obvious what is best without some prior knowledge

[tepid umbra]

not everything needs calculation

[sleek remnant]

I meant that learning from people who already know is better than trying to figure out yourself (at least mostly)

[cold bloom]

Starting army at least on previous versions was enough to beat Poland

[inner sparrow]

support arty is good

[tepid umbra]

yeah I know

but i'm saying what else would you use arty for if not for soft attack

[inner sparrow]

you don’t use it

because the amount of soft it gives for the cost is shit

u don’t need the soft in an infantry division

[pliant condor]

for soft attack

if you can get breakthrough it might not be bad

[potent summit]

Does anyone have any advice for me invading Nepal? I'm really new to this game and I'm playing East India Company cuz it doesn't require war, which is the one thing I can't grasp. I have Nepal fully surrounded and just want it cuz it's an eyesore, but every time I try to rush it's only city, I get quickly overrun. Is there somthing I'm missing as to why I can't get to the city (I have like 20k the troops as them on that border). Any help is appreciated :3

[final zodiac]

New to the game. I'm having my divisions train rn, but they keep getting this attriation issue and many other issues. How do I fix?

[tepid umbra]

omg bruh

that comes with training

as well as the org loss

[final zodiac]

Oh

I've had them training for 1 year

[tepid umbra]

did you not see the popup?

[final zodiac]

I did

But I didn't know why

I thought it was supply reasons. So, I upgraded their suppy hub, infrastructure, and railways

[cold bloom]

Is facility supply just impossible in remote places? I got a level 3 railway to vladivostok and no units there, but I still cant supply the research facility

[inner sparrow]

build it ontop of a supply hub

and then motorize the supply hub

[final zodiac]

How do I raise the garrisons?

They want more troops and arty

[hasty belfry]

Do doctrine bonuses that say they apply to tanks and not tanks and tank variants still apply to self propelled guns?

[sweet summit]

Mountaineers probably
Maybe try CAS

[inner sparrow]

change ur template to a cheap one that doesn’t use arty

just a random horse division with nothing else

[potent summit]

Thank you very much, would airdrop also be viable on top of that?

[inner sparrow]

it will take out the stuff itself from stockpile

[sweet summit]

Ooh that would help

Cuz that would decrease their orgs yeah

How do you paratroop tho ?

🥀

[lyric geyser]

You can do a fallback wait for them to push then just battleplan

[potent summit]

I got no clue how to do that

[sweet summit]

He saying wait and then push

[lyric geyser]

Basically just move your units far away from the border let them push out then you push them

They won’t have their units stacked on 1 tile

[potent summit]

Also when using troops to attack is it correct to just right click where you want them to attack?

[sweet summit]

Yup
Maybe use the command thing for attack and agressively do battleplans and a spearhead attack all at once

[potent summit]

okok

Thanks guys wish me luck

[inner sparrow]

don’t listen to this guy, he sold me fent

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-massage-scratch-headpats-gif-8875223072481535298

[potent summit]

Also you guys rlly should try East India Company, it's sm fun. I got all this with literally only 1 war against burma by js spamming civilian factories

[lyric geyser]

Green air on Barb

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259084292915466281/1314816967076745266/togif.gif

[serene karma]

lmao

[red sundial]

ok

[versed rose]

no

if it only says tanks, tds and spgs are excluded

[hasty belfry]

So would I be better off going with streamlined deployment as my tank subdoctrine if I’m doing self-propelled artillery divisions as opposed to armored spearhead?

[versed rose]

depends, armored spearhead breakthrough bonuses are still pretty relevant for flametank and tank recon

though for softmaxxing streamlined deployment is better

[hasty belfry]

But that only applies to a very small portion of a 36 width armored.

[versed rose]

that's close to 100 breakthrough from those 2 components alone with armored spearhead

+20% break for the spgs themselves

its honestly up to you what you value more

[hasty belfry]

Would that really be that much after all the breakthrough debuffs spg’s get?

[versed rose]

its especially important because of that

breakthrough is an important stat for offensive divs

also those buffs/debuffs are additive

you can fully cancel out the spg debuff with radio alone, so that 20% bonus is positive

[hasty belfry]

Won’t streamlined deployment still give like 10% breakthrough?

[inner sparrow]

if u have dlc theres a doc for spg

[hasty belfry]

That isn’t in tank doctrines.

That’s an artillery doctrine.

[inner sparrow]

no there a spg doc in tanks

[glacial steeple]

td

spg is in artillery iirc

[inner sparrow]

really

I swear theres a doc in tanks that also gives spg buffs

[glacial steeple]

idk i havent played in a bit

but i dont believe so

not exicitly buffing them anyway

[versed rose]

no, streamlined gives 10% break, armored spearhead gives 40% to tanks and 20% to spgs

oh i misread

the 40% on tank from armored spearhead is massive for flametank and tank recon

also yea, spg doctrine is in artillery doctrines

[stuck flint]

@tepid umbra what should I choose

[glacial steeple]

im pretty sure theyre different kinds of bad

but i also forgor

[stuck flint]

which is best for deleting poland and soviet

[glacial steeple]

pick the 4th subdoctrine damn

[tepid umbra]

mobile defense I think

[glacial steeple]

its OP

[versed rose]

why mobile defence

[glacial steeple]

thats the only one ive never clicked i think

the rest at least has LARP

[reef solar]

best new japan path?

[glacial steeple]

best potential or best relative strenght

[reef solar]

relative strength

[glacial steeple]

prob hist lol

[reef solar]

i js want to easy cap china and kill us

[reef solar]

thats dumb thooo

i need a alt

[glacial steeple]

then pick one

flip a coin

[reef solar]

kk

[stuck flint]

err

could you uh

perhaps help me and tell me which commands I Should tell my armys to do o poland in vc

[tepid umbra]

front line

[stuck flint]

I did that aleardy

I Just

wanna know which for offensive

and which for spearhead

[tepid umbra]

and then the basic offense plan I forget what it's called

[tepid umbra]

just offensive

you don't need spear head rn

[stuck flint]

no spearhead?

arlight uhh

hop on vc

and tell me where to stop the offesnive line

like how far should it go

also merry christmas

[tepid umbra]

js put it all the way to the end

it doesn't really matter

[rain iris]

are these divisiosn templates any good?

[glacial steeple]

spearhead sucks

its like

[tepid umbra]

swap the motorized for mecha

[glacial steeple]

youre battleplanning (not controlling the units)

[tepid umbra]

isn't it good for multiplayer micro

or did they nerf that

[glacial steeple]

and they actively decide to just not care about the tiles on their sides

[glacial steeple]

you move manually

spearhead is for rpers

[tepid umbra]

I swear it was good for planning bonus or sumn

[glacial steeple]

no

[rain iris]

same amount?

[tepid umbra]

yuh

[glacial steeple]

motorized in this economy?

[tepid umbra]

I mean it's cheaper than mecha 😭

[glacial steeple]

no??

less hp less stats less hardness

it takes more losses per ic

and after combat is more expensive

[tepid umbra]

but it's cheaper per truck

[tepid umbra]

losses are FAKE

ai

[rain iris]

what is the best design for medium tank

[glacial steeple]

artillery is cheaper per batallion than a tank that doesnt mean its better

usually its bad

[tepid umbra]

never said it was better 😭

[glacial steeple]

(its significantly worse)

[rain iris]

thank you man

[tepid umbra]

is the high reliability necessary

[glacial steeple]

just do clicks if you want more stat

[pulsar violet]

Hello! Coming back to the game after a year ish so I have some quick questions:

1. is standard line infantry defensive template still 16W inf only?
2. What are my best options for offensive divs as a small country like Hungary?

[glacial steeple]

mountaineer good

[tepid umbra]

for offensive divs you might be able to get tanks up and running even as hungary

[pulsar violet]

36W Tanks?

[pliant condor]

mobile defense

[pulsar violet]

Id have to sacrifice air and go AA in all my divs then right

[pliant condor]

1. it doesn't matter, use whatever you have, spend xp on doctrine not templates
2. your starting infantry

[pliant condor]

if you don't make air you need aa

[pulsar violet]

oh god did the new doctrines change a lot of things now

[pliant condor]

no it doesn't

[glacial steeple]

more stat

[pliant condor]

all it changes is that you won't have anything for war

[glacial steeple]

i mean it did technically change stuff

[pliant condor]

so it's useless

[stuck flint]

im so cooked

[glacial steeple]

i saw sheep have a 5K ic light spg template earlier

was kinda balling

[pliant condor]

🤣 just pick assualt infantry and take the 20% soft

you won't have time for anything else

[glacial steeple]

me when i troll

[pliant condor]

?

[glacial steeple]

indiv excellence got buffed a lot

[stuck garnet]

?

[glacial steeple]

+5 hp to all inf including sf

[pliant condor]

you don't get any doctrine if u don't know how to train

or train with the wrong method

[stuck flint]

@red sundial I got

no

mic

[pliant condor]

so just pick the one that give you the best stats day 1

[stuck flint]

:wilt

[pliant condor]

and call it

[glacial steeple]

you get inf

[pliant condor]

you don't lol

[tepid umbra]

maybe not

[pliant condor]

I trained the whole polish army for three years and barely got full

[glacial steeple]

if you do it wrong but train you get inf

and fourth

[tepid umbra]

is large unit tactics still good

[pliant condor]

you need to do the funny training method to get full

[tepid umbra]

i've been running that

[pliant condor]

yes

[glacial steeple]

its okay

its an option

[pliant condor]

any doctrine can only be good if you have it

[stuck garnet]

??

[pliant condor]

if you don't have it it doesn't do anything

[glacial steeple]

its like saying having gun better than not having gun

[stuck flint]

So

like

how many tanks armys Should Ihave

[pliant condor]

0

[stuck garnet]

In africa, every 60 minutes, an hour passes

[glacial steeple]

why are we talking tank armies

[pulsar violet]

LOL

[stuck flint]

I have 3

[glacial steeple]

its about their general

like do they have a good general

[pliant condor]

you definitely should not have 3

[glacial steeple]

good combat modifiers

are they real tanks

[stuck flint]

is 1 good?

im using the panzer 2

[pliant condor]

send a screenshot

[glacial steeple]

so theyre not real tanks

then dont use

[pliant condor]

I bet they are not equipped

[glacial steeple]

topaz i was trying a run earlier only buying equipment

i think something like lithuania is good

your first 2 enemies suck

[stuck flint]

so\

[glacial steeple]

and lot of civs

but the ai hates selling equipment so

[stuck flint]

I should only have 1 to 2 tank armys and then the rest are infantry?

[pliant condor]

ok yes as I said

no

[glacial steeple]

brother

what is that

[pliant condor]

you need to understand how the game works

it is not templates that fight the war, template is just a way of organizing equipment, it's your actual equipment(and manpower) fighting. so it makes no sense to ask how many tank division you should get

what matters is how much equipment you have

[wraith talon]

Does anyone have any suggestions for a resource to teach a complete noob this game? i've played the tutorial over and over for 30 hours and cannot beat Ethiopia with Italy.

[pliant condor]

if you deploy division that does not have equipment in them(look at the yellow bar on your tanks)

[glacial steeple]

play the other side

[pliant condor]

they would not get any stat from tank because there is no tank in there

[glacial steeple]

experience its weaknesses

exploit those weaknesses as the primary side

[pliant condor]

as a general rule, you always only deploy division when you have all the necessary equipment

[stuck flint]

sob

alright

so

from what im getting

[pliant condor]

instead of thinking "I make 48 tank division" the correct method is look into your stockpile and make as many tank as you can equip

[tepid umbra]

use ALL your air and ALL your units

[stuck flint]

I should just only have 1 or 2 tank armys fully equiped

and the rest

are infantry armys?

[pliant condor]

no

[glacial steeple]

^^^

[tepid umbra]

put a decent amount of guys on the south as they don't usually

[pliant condor]

you should have as many tank army equipped as you can have

[glacial steeple]

that goes for all units

[pliant condor]

same for infantry

[pliant condor]

again, template does not fight the war

[stuck flint]

Alright so How many armys should be tanks

[glacial steeple]

templates win tactically economy - logistics management wins strategically

[tepid umbra]

however many you can make

[glacial steeple]

you need a mix of both

[stuck flint]

got it

should i restart?

[glacial steeple]

do you want to restart?

[pulsar violet]

So should I try to go for air then as hungary??

i just want a general idea to know what i should concentrate my industry towards

[stuck flint]

i mean

romania is saving me

but its 1940 now

[glacial steeple]

well youre not playing the game

so yeah

5 speed no research no focus unit sunassigned probably a million other issues

[pliant condor]

if you want an easy win, research fighter day 1 and put at least 30 factory on it when you get 1940 fighter, research 1939 gun asap, only make fighter, CAS, and for army infantry equipment, support artillery, support equipment(in ratio of ~10:3:1), build military factory only from 1937, build refinery from 1939 till war

don't even touch the template screen

[stuck flint]

i research what you told me

[pliant condor]

those are not the most important things

[stuck flint]

ive been doing that same research strat

[red sundial]

3 speed bro

[pliant condor]

just restart and do this

[stuck flint]

welp I gotta go for an few imma restart so lets see how this plays out

[pliant condor]

only make infantry, and air

[stuck flint]

so

[pliant condor]

do not touch your template

[stuck flint]

imma just let it play out while im gone

then restart

[pliant condor]

also this is just not playing the game

might as well restart

[red sundial]

lol

[glacial steeple]

just dont play germany?

like if you dont wanna be the main character just dont be

[stuck flint]

I want to play Germany for fun

Im just letting the game play out right now since im doing something important then im restarting

This is what I find fun

[pliant condor]

you should

it's a good choice

if you win on ger you probably know how to play

[neat widget]

BTW every time you battleplan an angel loses its wings

so battleplan selectively

[indigo sand]

👋

[pulsar violet]

is this still the meta for med tank design

[hasty belfry]

I’m playing as Germany and Alkett can further cancel it out as they can get 20% more breakthrough for SPG through traits.

[rain iris]

Can someone explain how my puppet is fighting the allies, whom i am at war with, within their own country

[stuck garnet]

Artyyyy

You can do it

[pulsar violet]

Whats that supposed to mean?

[stuck garnet]

Spgss

[pulsar violet]

spgs are meta now?

[stuck garnet]

Ye

2 width

Big soft attack

[pulsar violet]

oh they got changed to 2?

[stuck garnet]

Breakthrough is fine

Especially with uhh

Especially with radio

[pulsar violet]

so what i go line inf and then spg divs as breakthrough divs?

can i support that as a minor

[hasty belfry]

How should you change your template to represent that?

From a standard 36 width armored.

[stuck garnet]

Make a design with spg first

Go to atormed support

In your template

And replace your meds with med spgs

[hasty belfry]

I know.

But like what do you do with the saved width.

[stuck garnet]

Uhh

Hmm

Okay

8/10s

[hasty belfry]

Oh wait.

[stuck garnet]

8 mech 10 armor

[hasty belfry]

I forgot tanks are 2 width somehow.

[stuck garnet]

If armor 3 width

[hasty belfry]

And that spgs used to be 3 width.

[stuck garnet]

Then its 46 width

[pulsar violet]

wait im so confused

are tanks not 2 width anymore?

[stuck garnet]

They are

[hasty belfry]

They are.

I just forgot that fact.

[stuck garnet]

Spgs are 2 width

[pulsar violet]

SPGs are now 2 width too right

i see

[stuck garnet]

• new doctrines

Make them oppp

Waow

[pulsar violet]

so.... SPG divs or planes as a minor

[reef solar]

how would one do power struggle

as liangguang clique

i need nanjing or beiping but like

it just goes to china

nvm i know what to do

im special

[glacial steeple]

alright santa deniers, how did those presents get under your tree?

[neat widget]

What tree

[rain iris]

anyone know how to get naval supremacy fast as India in late game (1947) againts the allies with no navy. If it is even possible

[glacial steeple]

if you dont have a christmas tree you wont get presents smh

[pulsar violet]

Please does anyone have any tips for minor nations like hungary or finland

[fathom thistle]

Tips in what field?

Templates? Focus Tree?

Designs?

[glacial steeple]

those are vastly different

[neat widget]

Well you could naval bomb the enemy

Especially in 1947

[fathom thistle]

They just spawn there. You get % bonus depending in which country you are

[pulsar violet]

Templates would be nice or tips on if planes / tanks are worth it

[fathom thistle]

tanks - no, planes - no, you just dont have an industry for it

Even as Austria Hungary you would focus only on like 4 tank divs if even, tho in singleplayer they are not as needed tbh

I can give ya template for infantry only if you want

[pulsar violet]

What do I use for offensive then

[red sundial]

can anyone help teaching me how to properly war?

[gilded karma]

Uhh i would be grateful for that if that's not a problem

[fathom thistle]

Yep just booting up the game

[rain iris]

if you have 1600 CAS in stockpile which cannot naval strike but you are now making CAS that can. Is there a way to lets say convert 1000 old CAS to new naval CAS without changing them all because i still use the old CAS for land.

[neat widget]

I mean naval cas should be useable on land too

[rain iris]

well it says it cannot convert from stockpile, so it cant use the other cas for some reason

[pulsar violet]

I’d like to see it

[pliant condor]

you rush gun, make infantry, get all the manpower you can get

and annex everything you can asap

[pliant condor]

you use everything you have for offensive

if you have two infantry and the enemy have 1 you win

[stuck garnet]

Are you sure a minor would have the manpower for that?

[pliant condor]

ofc

you always annex for the industry

hungary also cores everything anyways

[stuck garnet]

I love puppets thooo especially when you have a faction

[pulsar violet]

I understand very early on just having infantry only and taking over the neighbors

But once it gets to like 39-40 and I’m a bit bigger, would it be better to start investing in like tanks or planes

[stuck garnet]

Ngl i hate how allied faction has such a shit focus tree

Imo

[glacial steeple]

no typically you stay with 1 build

[stuck garnet]

Compared to axis

Ofx

Ofc*

I mean

Not such a shit

Just like

Worse

[glacial steeple]

for hungary you could technically do air for finland you can technically do tanks

has to do with natural resources + MIOs+industry size

[pulsar violet]

I see

[glacial steeple]

for air you want to outproduce enemy air

which isnt very viable as hungary typically but like maybe idk

[pliant condor]

no

you can start investing in air, but that's after you win the war

you can do basically anything at that point

[pulsar violet]

im only really asking from a SP perspective if that changes ur answer @glacial steeple

is the pinned fighter template in this chat still correct?

[pliant condor]

if you don't win the air you won't have anything extra

by winning the war on hungary you would want to annex germany

[glacial steeple]

no

it doesnt

[pliant condor]

yes

[glacial steeple]

you can win the air war easier in sp is the only difference

[pliant condor]

but you need to remember that it's a lot of investment that pays off late

you won't even have it researched until 1938

and it's definitely not a good way to spend your limited ic

the best way to win the war especially early is having more inf

[pulsar violet]

line arty in the inf or just straight 16/18w inf?

[pliant condor]

just whatever you started with

[glacial steeple]

there is an argument for cas if your enemies have literally no airforce

however czechs and romania have an airforce

[pliant condor]

issue is fighting germany

[glacial steeple]

so you wouldnt

like even ignoring ger they have aircraft so its not worth it

[pliant condor]

you can make it 16 width but it doesn't matter

best is probably 32 width

but it's whatever

get more guns and manpower is the most important thing

[fathom thistle]

@candid thistle here it is. I might as well show ya the wole strategy.
You would add more infantry to the big inf tempalte so you have 35.7w combat width, I just didnt have enough experience to unlock it. The smaller divison templae is for holding lines and defending. You start with that and then convert like one army to the bigger template. DONT focus on getting as much armies as possible. One fully equiped army is better then a whole underequipped army group.

[pulsar violet]

grand battleplan is the meta now?

[gilded karma]

Seems like you pinged the wrong person but I'm still here

[fathom thistle]

For offense pretty much

[fathom thistle]

Well you replied

[pliant condor]

use support artillery and don't use signal

[pulsar violet]

no longer superior firepower? I remember that being meta for small nations for the longest amount of time

[fathom thistle]

So i pinged ya xD

[pliant condor]

it's fine

but you won't have the most immediate benefit

just pick gbp

[fathom thistle]

For pure stats yes and for defending too

[fathom thistle]

Thats just wrong

[pliant condor]

lol

if you need reinforce rate it's just skill issue

[fathom thistle]

Signal companies are needed always

[pliant condor]

and not having support artillery is troll

[gilded karma]

I always use support arty

[fathom thistle]

It's just a stat boost

[red sundial]

someone pls help

[fathom thistle]

Iniative + cordiantion is king

Im not saying suppoort arty is bad but I wouldnt trade it for signals

[pulsar violet]

i assume i should try to get a chief of army asap for army xp for the doctrines?

[fathom thistle]

Maybe for logistics

[rain iris]

what kind of airplane is the most effective for naval strikes

[pliant condor]

the difference, in the current checksum, is that gbp gives you 10% max planning while sfp give you a bit org and LOTS of org recovery(mainly), but on gbp you get the most important bonus(planning) right the way

so it's better to pick that

[pliant condor]

both are irrelevant

compared to support artillery which is straight up 20% more soft

[gilded karma]

Oh cool a conflict

[pliant condor]

CAS

[gilded karma]

[pliant condor]

with bomb lock and dive brake

if you want to kill surface navy make medium airframe heavy fighter with torpedo 2

CAS is good enough against subs

[lofty totem]

what am i doing wrong, everytime i declare war on romania i end up fighting the brittish, czhechs, and yugoslavia for no reason

[rain iris]

really because i think maybe 100 get shot down for one destroyer when i send them above the english channel

[pliant condor]

if they are guaranteed yes

[lofty totem]

they arent

[pliant condor]

yes if you want to kill enemy navy you need something better

with torpedo 2

[lofty totem]

they create a faction and invite those nations in

[pliant condor]

well yeah

[gilded karma]

Iirc there's the balkan pact spirit

Or sth like that

[pulsar violet]

....

[gilded karma]

I guess so

[fathom thistle]

With Sfp I would take it since it gives so many bonuses to support art but with GB it's not really worth it

[neat widget]

who tf is doing field engineering here

[stuck flint]

im starting an new match

[fathom thistle]

Pretty much

[neat widget]

I mean it is better than most doctrines tbh, but i think mobile recon and assault, siege artillery, or air cavalry would be better for infantry builds

[pliant condor]

yes in general

[rain iris]

does anybody know why experimental facilites research does ages before completing, it is halfway for almost 3 years now

[pliant condor]

ofc you can't on hungary

[lofty totem]

also whats the best economy branch to pick as the austrian empire

[gilded karma]

Supply?

Perchance

[pulsar violet]

why not?

[neat widget]

Should only take a year tbh

And often less than that

[pliant condor]

trianon

[fathom thistle]

Depends on how many factories are assigned to construct it

[neat widget]

^

[pulsar violet]

well yeah but once you get it removed

[pliant condor]

austria focus tree doesn't have different ecnomy paths?

[rain iris]

it is already constructed

[pliant condor]

yeah you want to go to war with austria

[neat widget]

Should take like 150 days ish if you have all 15 you could use

[pliant condor]

then you go extensive conscription and war economy

[stuck flint]

so topazand

should I do this if you want an easy win, research fighter day 1 and put at least 30 factory on it when you get 1940 fighter, research 1939 gun asap, only make fighter, CAS, and for army infantry equipment, support artillery, support equipment(in ratio of ~10:3:1), build military factory only from 1937, build refinery from 1939 till war
don't even touch the template screen and combine the research with this? esearch tool, construction, electronic, and 1940 fighter

after those get the second tier tool, concentrated, construction, rubber tech
with the 3 slots
then start researching toward 1939 infantry equipment
and try to apply your industry bonus not on 1937 techs

[pliant condor]

ok just look for efficiency cap and output and pick whichever has the most of that

[pliant condor]

try it...

and play the game

don't go 5 speed

use your air, use your equipment

[neat widget]

I did recommend some guys on here and reddit to use signal companies for like half a week

[daring ivy]

how do you check your naval invasion prep

[gilded karma]

Hover with your mouse over the arrow

[neat widget]

Hover over your general's arrow

[gilded karma]

Above your general

[stuck flint]

what speed should I go

[daring ivy]

Ok, thank you

[pliant condor]

ahh just play

try to engage with the game and do stuff

[stuck flint]

1 speed is good?

[pliant condor]

no..

[gilded karma]

Lol

[pliant condor]

ahh just play

[glacial steeple]

logi is goated now

+5 hp

per inf batallion

[neat widget]

yeah 5 hp... but only on individual excellence

it's quite good

[glacial steeple]

are there other doctrines

[neat widget]

yes

like large unit tactics

[pliant condor]

usually stay on 4 speed

[neat widget]

and assault infantry

[pliant condor]

or play on 5 speed and pause

[glacial steeple]

i think 4 is good it isnt slow

[pliant condor]

if you think it's going to slow on 4 it's probabyl that you was't doing stuff

[neat widget]

Yeah

[stuck flint]

imma do 3 f

more balanced for me

oh

for 1936

[wild rune]

Nah 5 speed battleplan only with occasional micro

[stuck flint]

what factorys and building should I build first

[neat widget]

an angel lost its wings

[pliant condor]

that's fine if you know what you are doing

minus the occasional micro part

you would barely be macroing on 5 speed

[neat widget]

INDIVIDUAL EXCELLENCE except you're using it on special forces or something OMG YOU BOZO DON"T YOU READ WHAT YOU SAY

airstrikes @neat widget

[stuck flint]

should I stop producing transports and bombers?

[glacial steeple]

on SF its goated?

25% hp

[neat widget]

Ah I see

[glacial steeple]

equal to non indiv inf

[neat widget]

Yeah that's right

What if you're on grand battleplan

[glacial steeple]

i dont see why you wouldnt on an SF build

[pliant condor]

ok if you really want a script

just do this

and then only build mils

[neat widget]

Yeah totally fair

[stuck flint]

mills everywhere or only their

[neat widget]

recovery rate makes hp that much more important

[pliant condor]

but the thing you want to know about construction is that you always build infrastructure and civilian factory first, then military factory

[wild rune]

False

[pliant condor]

never mix construction

[pliant condor]

always build in the highest infrastructure states first

[stuck flint]

how do I know they have the highest

is it when im gonna build infra?

[sleek remnant]

Depends on how bad your pc is

[pliant condor]

only if you FA

on inf it's pretty bad

logi is expensive

[neat widget]

Oh wait

[pliant condor]

wait that's very true lol

[neat widget]

SF as in special forces or SF as in superior firepower

Wait what

[glacial steeple]

like if you go pure SF the logi is cheaper than the reduced losses no

[pliant condor]

special forces

[neat widget]

Ah I see

[glacial steeple]

special forces

[pliant condor]

having 30% more stat also reduces losses

also logi take a support slot

[neat widget]

Yeah special forces have low HP

Paratroopers 22, and the rest only have 20 HP

Add 5 to each of them and it's a 18.5%/20% reduction in losses

[glacial steeple]

para indiv excellence build sounds funny

[pliant condor]

you build infra only on states with a lot of building slots(like the ones I did)

[glacial steeple]

not good but funny

[stuck flint]

berlin has a lot

[pliant condor]

when you are in construction screen you see the 80% 60% those numbers tell you

each level is 20%

[pliant condor]

you spawn infra there via focus

so no need

[sleek remnant]

Is para bad because of no good modifiers unlike mountaineers and marines on land combat?

[stuck flint]

got it

[glacial steeple]

no cw reduction and that

[daring ivy]

I do not see a naval invasion plan prep time when I hoover mouse over either the general or the invasion plan arrow. I have activated the plan, but I am not currently at war with the nation. Do need to be at war?

[neat widget]

Part of the issue is that if you're ever attacking then assault infantry has like 30% more breakthrough

[glacial steeple]

paras arent bad

theyre just not the best

[neat widget]

That would be either mountaineers or rangers I assume

[pliant condor]

😂 yes your marine can't just randomly land in another nation for no reason

[sleek remnant]

Yea but who attacks in this game anyway

[neat widget]

sort of the whole point of singleplayer

[sleek remnant]

Sarcasm 😔

[pliant condor]

you can really never justify picking anything other than assualt infantry

[glacial steeple]

it can irl

[pliant condor]

it fits the playstyle perfectly

you start with a cheap div with only support artillery

and get +20% soft on first node

then you get support light tank and flame in there as you get more eco

each one get huge bonus from doctrine

[sleek remnant]

I was going for large unit tactics all the time but now going assault infantry, I feel like it’s better even for inf offensive (or am I wrong?)

[pliant condor]

every minor should go assult inf

[neat widget]

I know, but I have never clarified that point before. You as the player are so good compared to the AI that defending is typically just a wash

[pliant condor]

large unit might be better with full doctrine and filled frontline

but you only get stat on 400/500

also combat width reduction is useless before you fill cw

[neat widget]

Yeah that's not too dissimlar from my impression too

[pliant condor]

is this gonna happen

[neat widget]

A lot of the larger minors can fill combat width like Poland or India

[sleek remnant]

Even if we include stuff like flame/recon/assault engineer support?

[pliant condor]

yes

because -0.3 width

but width reduction is sus

it's stat per width only

[sleek remnant]

iirc assault inf also buffs their battalion modifiers to give more breakthrough right?

[pliant condor]

and you don't gain hp/ic/anything

[neat widget]

There's a trick (which I assume is banned in MP) where you plan a naval invasion to someone who you're not at war at... and then at the last moment you edit it last moment so you attack the person you're actually at war with

[pliant condor]

yes it's 30% soft + break and a bunch of support artillery buff

[neat widget]

Also you can naval invade people you have military access to

[pliant condor]

hmm?

[neat widget]

Just that you'd take no territory because you're not at war with

[pliant condor]

that's a trick but it's for gaining planning on a non frontline tile

you can always draw invasion anywhere you like and change it

[stuck flint]

so build military factorys untill 1938 or 1939

[neat widget]

Ah I see

I basically found it out as a way to not alert the AI into knowing I'm naval invading them basically

[sleek remnant]

Oh another ai cheese
Thanks

But tbh I’ve basically stopped naval invasions after the update
Just paradrop

[neat widget]

Yeah

Remember this from around two weeks ago

[pliant condor]

wait do you get scripted peacedealed

or can you actually annex italy

[neat widget]

In the GWR mod yes you get scripted

[sleek remnant]

No fun allowed

[neat widget]

Like two days after this screenshot the war ends

Which isn't bad for me, I get early reparations and can focus on the Balkan League more

If you can pull it off it very consistently ends the Italo-Turkish war quickly

although I haven't tried with the scripted peace deal feature off

[stuck flint]

?

[neat widget]

This Poland I assume?

[stuck flint]

im playing as germany 😭

no dlcs

[neat widget]

Ah I see

Yeah that makes sense you got a land facility

You need an air facility though, so fit that somewhere in your construction queue

and then yeah after 1939 build refineries

[bleak plinth]

which ones the best for defense?

[fathom thistle]

Sfp

[neat widget]

yeah sfp

which nation are you doing though

[bleak plinth]

finland

i odnt think sfp is good since i cant produce arty

[gilded karma]

Wdym you can't

[devout lintel]

i was just abt to say finland

doing nodric reunion as fasicm

ussr cant leave me be

[neat widget]

forest rangers my friend 🙂

[devout lintel]

rangers with winter

and ur good

and dont worry if they push in ur country a bit

there supply its very limited

[neat widget]

Well finland does have those special snow companies so you don't need to do mountaineer branch for snow rangers

[devout lintel]

?

[neat widget]

There's a strong defensive lake barrier, and if you take Leningrad you're al set

[pliant condor]

sfp has nothing to do with arti

[devout lintel]

there entire focus tree its based on winter

[pliant condor]

it's org recovery

[neat widget]

winter logistics and long range patrol

[gilded karma]

Yup

[devout lintel]

so wdym dont go winter

[bleak plinth]

hmm which one do i pick

[devout lintel]

winter its the only hope

and then the core defenes

[devout lintel]

defense?

[neat widget]

your country is also all forest

[devout lintel]

enthenment postures

[pliant condor]

assault infantry

[devout lintel]

yeah??

u have generals

whos

starts

with

[pliant condor]

never pick that

[devout lintel]

winter

??????

[pliant condor]

that doesn't do anything

[devout lintel]

thats how i won berlin below 1m casualts

[neat widget]

For generals get the ones with commandos

[devout lintel]

??

[neat widget]

You can stack double commando + AA for max CAS damage reduction

[devout lintel]

attempted rage bait?

[pliant condor]

it's not really 20% enternchment

it's 0.2

do you know

[devout lintel]

thats still how i won berling below 1m casualts

[pliant condor]

ok?

[neat widget]

Perhaps useful in MP but idk

[devout lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-gif-25229115

[pliant condor]

it's only useful when you only defend 100% the times

and your divs are always entrenched

i.e. mech

[neat widget]

Fair

[neat widget]

well for the commandos also get camoflague expert of course

[bleak plinth]

is this a good template for the winter war

[pliant condor]

also getting 1m casualty against ai is kinda crazy lol

[pliant condor]

yes

[devout lintel]

1948

[pliant condor]

get the special support company from your tree and add them in

[devout lintel]

fought off the nazis since they did barbarossa

[pliant condor]

pick desperate defense on operations doctrine so you have 5% more manpower to spare

[neat widget]

also yeah sfp does buff line artillery by 10% but that's not nearly enough to consider it useful

[pliant condor]

now finland it's a lot easier since you don't need to one div train and everything for mass mob

desperate defense is 5% recruitable on pick

[bleak plinth]

yup i always do desperate defense

[neat widget]

Normally I don't do desperate defense but a free 5% with Finland out of all nations is critical

[neat widget]

also you might not even want the engineers here since that alone is 23% of the cost of the division

[sacred sluice]

Does Player Led Peace Conferences work for MP?

[neat widget]

Probably depends on your MP mods

They should

[sacred sluice]

Base game

Just with player peace con

[glacial steeple]

something modern politics

but yes it has happened before and quite a lot

[bleak plinth]

alr guys one last question

which one is the best

[neat widget]

take both winter logistics and long range patrol when you go on the offensive

[glacial steeple]

foxsy told me all special companies arent affected by doctrine rn

which is def a nerf

should still be good cuz snow tho

[neat widget]

Oh yeah about that

But yeah the snow is still a thing so they're still useful

[stuck flint]

Whats good?

[stuck flint]

im playing as germany btw

no dlcs

[neat widget]

grand assault for sure then

[glacial steeple]

all of them are rlly good at their own thing

grand assault for attack stats

mission type for recovery

[neat widget]

i assume deep battle isn't good despite the fact it gives a lot of reinforce rate

[glacial steeple]

its good for that

i just forgot what most do

[neat widget]

infiltration tactics is basically the new version of the old GBP right

Desperate defense gives 5% recruitable pop

[pulsar violet]

are any special projects worth it as a minor

like radar or flame tanks

[pliant condor]

flame tank is definitely

[pulsar violet]

@pliant condor Sorry for all the Q's but hypothetically, for example as hungary, would i wanna build the land warfare building very early on?

in order to start working towards flame tanks

[pliant condor]

you could

build it day 1

[pulsar violet]

Day 1 build is viable?

You’re kinda gimped w triannon anyway

[pliant condor]

since you have trianon

yes

you can't build mils

[pulsar violet]

What about helicopters? Heard those were good

[pliant condor]

no

all air projects are bad

[pulsar violet]

Oh did they get nerfed or something

[neat widget]

rapid domination is basically a mix between 25% infantry attack + 4% reinforce rate, whereas deep battle gives 10% reinforce rate + 5% infantry attack + 5% defense + 10 org

I see why people like rapid domination more

[pliant condor]

always been

air facility is the most useless one

radar is overrated

[pulsar violet]

Lol okay ill just get the land warfare facility then

[pine cape]

oke so i need a bit of help when it comes to naval invasions i did a bit of reseach and now i can consistently take out france without that big of a issuse but i cant start a naval invasion so save my life it constantly says 0 divisions/no convoys for troops even though i have naval supremacy and idk what to do to fix it some help would really be apricieted :]

[neat widget]

I mean

there's naval facility

[stuck flint]

I got dutch trade to like 170 should I still invade em

[pliant condor]

don't click that decision

it doesn't do anything

[stuck flint]

oh

so

I invade em

[pliant condor]

on historical ai they won't cave to you

eventually

[stuck flint]

I got them to 170 😭

[pliant condor]

shbb and cruiser sub are good

[neat widget]

are they better than radar though

[tribal skiff]

So I got this event with Germany: Vichy France is suggesting "an end to the occupation", gaining parts of France back. I just dont see waht benefit that would bring to Germany?

[pliant condor]

radar is useless

pretty much

fly fighters to get detection

and fly scout plane to get intel

[neat widget]

I fly 3000 fighters and only get like 10% detection, what's up with that

Also a lot of minors don't have the capacity to just have even that many fighters

[pliant condor]

3k fighter is 30% detection

no range

[obsidian mesa]

im pretty new. got the game a few days ago and i have 40 hrs already but how do you invade uk as germany since you cant set a front line on the borders? paratroopers and airforce or is it more simple?

[pliant condor]

detection is mostly a non-issue

read the wiki about how it works

as long as you have like 1k it would be enough

and there are ways around it like baiting the ai to fight in your airzone and get ground detection

it's very easy to have full detection

[pliant condor]

either you naval invade, or use paratrooper

[stuck garnet]

hey

why does planning work so well

is there a irl reason?

damn

lemme go to general actually

[glacial steeple]

combat modifier

modifier multiplicative

more green? more stat by a lot

more red? less stat by a lot

miss out on like +100% modifier or whatever it is

one of the largest ones and its fully controllable

[pliant condor]

evil paradox decide that if you sit there for 10 days you get 100% stats

[neat widget]

Yeah

I remember being in GWR the other day as the Ottomans and getting 93% planning on my units

[stuck flint]

ALRIGHT

i took france in 1940

should I get denmark and norway then soviet?

[neat widget]

Pretty much yeah

[pulsar violet]

is there a guide on MIOs?

specifically looking for any pointers on the infantry equipment MIO

[hasty belfry]

Do infantry advisor bonuses apply to militia?

[vital flax]

is it worth to create faction's theaters?? like a theater as germany to keep italy in afrika-italy-balkans zone

[cold bloom]

no downside so definitely nice

[cold bloom]

I like to take the left branch then the top middle and the middle-left branch, then the rightmost top node

[stuck flint]

is their a focus for denmark?

[reef solar]

how does trade influence work?

for the first time of me playing hoi4 i am getting like less resources because of low trade influence

I have over 500 hrs why is this js now happemomg

[hasty belfry]

Considering communist Hungary can’t add militia battalions, could 12 width militia spam with artillery, AA, and engineer support companies still be viable, especially with 5% more recruitable population from Hungary red army?

[reef solar]

yes

still very strong with new doctrines

prc is prob best potential nation now bc they have the best inf at max

[neat widget]

Weserübung if you're on the hsitorical path

[hasty belfry]

They can also just add militia battalions to get their units up to 18 width.

Should I add field hospitals?

[reef solar]

if u need manpower

[reef solar]

12w isnt even horrible

it fits well in many scenarios

[hasty belfry]

Might need it early on. I’ll have 10% recruitable population base without production debuffs after Hungarian red army, plus potentially 1.5% more if I go expand the Honvedseg. That doesn’t include any recruitable population factor buffs.

But that is still applied to Hungary’s population of only around 8 million.

To form get any more cores (the ones that Greater Hungary gets) I need to defeat Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia in a fight.

Then I need to beat Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, and the big one, Italy, to unify the balkans.

Not sure if my manpower will last that long.

[reef solar]

nope

u get all that land for free

in tree

[stuck flint]

Yippee I dont gonna justify

For my new states is german offical or local town memeber better

[neat widget]

Denmark will fall pretty much instantly

[neat widget]

idk never seen that feature

[shrewd fulcrum]

personally id do local town member

[shrewd fulcrum]

its about the german puppet feature thingy

idk how to say it

way too long

[neat widget]

Norway you might not even want to invade since it's a bit bit and far, but it's theoretically not hard

[stuck flint]

Was doing that before so got it

[shrewd fulcrum]

peak

[stuck flint]

If Britan becomes facist during the war will they ally with us

[shrewd fulcrum]

historical or alt?

[hasty belfry]

Not as communist Hungary (at least in the path where you are not papa Stalin’s good boy).

You have to fight for it.

[stuck flint]

Historical

Im cooked am I?

[shrewd fulcrum]

uhh the uk wont be turning fascist

🙁

[stuck flint]

Their at 60 facist

The dem is 50

Or 40

Cant remeber

[stuck garnet]

No why irl

[shrewd fulcrum]

oh

[stuck garnet]

The uk has been fash since birth

Youll be fineeee

[shrewd fulcrum]

Lowkey

whatever floats the boat

[stuck garnet]

Ngl

Can i complain about how the british "decolonized" things? (I am anti colonial.)

Like why didnt you let them draw their own borders😭😭😭

Thats like the soviets going into the usa, invading, occupying it untill like 2481 and then making ohio too big so now tennesee is pissed

[stuck flint]

is norway naval invasion only?

[shrewd fulcrum]

yes

[stuck flint]

what should I choose

[shrewd fulcrum]

As germany I would choose trade interdiction

good for convoy raiding

if you want a strong fleet

then fleet in being

[stuck garnet]

is spaa any good?

[shrewd fulcrum]

no

[stuck garnet]

did you hear this from the official hoi4 youtube channel?

[shrewd fulcrum]

?

no

[stuck flint]

Which is better?

[sweet summit]

Uh depends on if you're doing dispersed or concentraetd

[shrewd fulcrum]

i always go for left personally

[sweet summit]

I'd so do the one that increases retention for you

[shrewd fulcrum]

fair

[sweet summit]

Time to start a german playthrough 🥀
I don't even know how boats work
y'all gone be busy

[shrewd fulcrum]

its ok bro

[sweet summit]

Is afghanistan bad or am i tweaking

[shrewd fulcrum]

wdym