ask-for-help-here

[inner sparrow]

spgs are tanks

its just role change

normal med howy u just change the role in designer

[sinful vessel]

So i'm re-re-re starting a game, trying to conquer UK as Germany. Il will try the paratrooper option this time. How many Fallschirmjager division to i need to train ? Which template for them ?

[hollow linden]

You wanna go for 16w to drop and take ports. Take all the special forces buffs you can get

Don't forget to make transport planes

[plush latch]

you get claims for the peacedeal

when you say spg, do you mean a standard tank with a close support/howitzer, or do you mean a literal artillery vehicle

[sinful vessel]

ty. I was afraid special battalion could make drop difficult, it's not a point ?

[inner sparrow]

he means a medium tank chasis with howy 2 as main gun in the design or howy 1 and then u change the role from the tank to artillery tank

u need nsb dlc to do that

[plush latch]

yeah

[inner sparrow]

then what did you mean with your question?

[plush latch]

is he saying to have them set as artillery tanks or standard tanks

[inner sparrow]

to artillery tanks

[plush latch]

bc changing them to designated artillery neuters the breakthrough

which is suuuuuper important

[inner sparrow]

doesnt matter u get enough break

[plush latch]

40% less breakthrough is brutal

[inner sparrow]

esp for ai

[inner sparrow]

bro

it doesnt matter

u will have 1k break anyways

hallooo

[sharp crater]

anybody knows if theres a way to stop ai from selecting factions goals?

[inner sparrow]

I love zhm

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

[sharp crater]

me too

[inner sparrow]

W

[plush latch]

idk what vanilla medium artillery tanks youre using to get 1k breakthrough lol

[wicked elm]

May someone please give me a good tank division template?

[inner sparrow]

you get with doctrines, flame tanks and light recon

max armor on your med and use radio 3 on the spgs aswell and u will have enough break

its like 15ic tank but whatever

[plush latch]

also very late war

[inner sparrow]

?

no

[plush latch]

going off of these which don't even have 1k breakthrough

[inner sparrow]

even these have enough break for ai

[plush latch]

thats late mech + howitzer 2 + super low reliability + high cost

[inner sparrow]

thats not late mech its mech 1

relia also doesnt matter

its whatever

[charred fable]

Is that just because higher ground support stat?

[inner sparrow]

this is 1939 design and even without the spg doc

was in mp with td doctrines

more than enough stats for any ai game

with howy 2 u have 1.2k soft in base without spg docs

with it prob 1.4-1.6k

and enough break anyways

[plush latch]

i generally rush 38 tank and start mass producing them immediately, means i can wipe the poles and france within a month or two

whats the meta for special projects on germany in mp?

[inner sparrow]

theres no reason to rush tank upgrade

inter war is fine for mediums

and u wipe the poles and france faster with spgs

spgs are thanos in singleplayer

[plucky palm]

Could italy declar war on china to bypass the major country focus and can someone give me a carrier plane template

[inner sparrow]

flame tanks and armored support vehicle for land

[plush latch]

i do howitzer mediums for sp, just dont set them to artillery cuz breakthrough lets me do dumb shit

[plush latch]

air tho? finding it quite hard to get enough breakthroughs for most stuff

[inner sparrow]

u have enough break, the break doesnt matter tell me one ai division that needs u to have more break than 300-400 more soft in template

this for 41 and again without spg doctrine

this alone is 300 more soft than medium howy

with it u have 500 more than howy

while still having 1k break

[plush latch]

maginot 🥀

[inner sparrow]

ah yeah that surely wont break through maginot, u also have a gen with fort buster as ger

and even then just go around

its all inf

nothing stops u

[plush latch]

^

[plucky palm]

;-;

Guy i need help

[inner sparrow]

radar is good

nothing really besides that

[plush latch]

jets?

[inner sparrow]

esp for u in sp u can win air way everygame

[inner sparrow]

no

[plush latch]

i dont only play sp lol

[inner sparrow]

engine 4 is better if u can get it

[plush latch]

and i'm meaning in mp here

[inner sparrow]

alright

as long as ur usa u never use jet engines ever anyways

and im pretty sure even usa doesnt anymore but idk

I never play usa

[plucky palm]

Bruh

Pls speed i am kinda skillless

[sinful vessel]

i can start producing med spg and flame with the inter war chassis ?

[sinful vessel]

What do you need ?

[plush latch]

help, apparently

[pliant condor]

and it has 5% air mission efficiency

better for your fighters as well

[plucky palm]

if i play as italy can i declear war on china to bypass the focus and i need a airplane carrier template

[plush latch]

italy vs china is wild

[plucky palm]

no just declearing on china to do the at war with an major country focus

[plush latch]

yes but then youre at war with someone you can't kill

the stability and war support penalty isnt worth

[fathom thistle]

Is there any way to play as Slovakia without being a puppet first?

Since release nation doesnt work as Czechoslovakia anymore

[torpid hemlock]

how do i upgrade my version to 1.17.2?

i can only upgrade to 1.16.9 for some reason

[night zealot]

If i train divisions that are assigned to a naval invasion, will the time to prepare it reset?

[light knoll]

it doesn't? then annex all of czechoslovakia and manually release not as a puppet ig

[fathom thistle]

So play as Germany. Gotcha

[scenic nacelle]

No

[scenic nacelle]

Germany can’t release I’m pretty sure

[fathom thistle]

So no way around being a puppet first?

[light knoll]

why wouldn't they?

[scenic nacelle]

A random game rule that prevents it

And idk how to switch it off

[light knoll]

well

justify and conquer them then ig as another nation?

probably you'd need to take down the uk and france too tho

can play as one of them yourself

but then would need to somehow get access

[fathom thistle]

Just checked through my German playthrough, I can release them that way

[scenic nacelle]

U can?

[fathom thistle]

Ye

[carmine thunder]

Is it worth it to invest into tanks and/or air for no step back achievement or do mass mob build

idk if enough will be out in time to not lose any tiles

[scenic nacelle]

Tanks

[scenic nacelle]

No step back is just not losing a core right

[carmine thunder]

idk but I plan to not lose a tile anyways cause its cool

Btw does anyone know if finland attacks you even if you dont do secure leningrad

[wild wolf]

why a lot of regions in navy show red stripes and say region not accessible even tho my ship are there and i have naval dominance ???

[sinful vessel]

because of your dedicated port. distance is from there

[scenic nacelle]

They don’t attack u

[sinful vessel]

you can change it in the fleet tab

[wild wolf]

thanks

[torpid hemlock]

how do i upgrade my version to 1.17.2?
i can only upgrade to 1.16.9 for some reason

[hollow linden]

On steam, click on hoi4, click on properties, go to betas and select "none"

[torpid hemlock]

yes, but it doesnt seem to work

when i go into my mods they all have the warning triangle saying that their for version 1.17.2

[hollow linden]

So you selected "none" in betas and after it finished downloading it didnt go up to 1.17.2?

Reinstall the game

or verify game files

ideally do both

[glacial steeple]

gm

[frosty lava]

Should I develop naval bombers as Germany or is CAS enough to deal with the royal navy?

[torpid hemlock]

still doesnt work

[molten hare]

I want mods to the game

[scenic nacelle]

Steam workshop

[molten hare]

Wow!

I mean mods I haven't tried before, so I'm asking

[glacial steeple]

could you change your profile to abide by rule 4 #server-rules and not include any extreme political imagery/symbols? :)

[hidden hollow]

Isn't that raisist too have that pfp?

[charred fable]

I assume for CAS continuos strike is better than the other CAS options?

[glacial steeple]

centralized control good

[charred fable]

Why over continuos strike or battlefield air interdiction?
10% fighter detection and 10% air mission efficiency seems quite well-rounded, but continuos strike is just a fat 25% to air support missions and BAI gives me 5% ground support

[glacial steeple]

detection makes fighter trades better

[charred fable]

But I'm fighting in South America... they don't have fighters, I just need to spam CAS damage and can switch it out later

[glacial steeple]

youre gonna forget...

[charred fable]

Okay, I do have memory like a siv and you're probably right, but is my logic at least right in terms of the mechanics? CS is better for purely CAS damage?

[glacial steeple]

itd do a bit more damage yeah

[halcyon nimbus]

playing as german reich as a new player, about to try invading the soviet union, how many divisions am i expected to use for this? i have about 50 tank divisions as of right now and about 140 infantry divisions i could move from my ports to help

[celest nimbus]

hi when someone has the time, can you help me unzip a file or something for saudia arabia overhaul mod im trying to use with road to 56

[glacial steeple]

its not about quantity more about quality

[night zealot]

Does naval invasion support counts for naval dominance?

[glacial steeple]

no

[night zealot]

Strike force?

[halcyon nimbus]

im not sure what to do with templates to help with it yet, but i have a lot of planes so air superiority and cas can help?

[glacial steeple]

only patrol

[glacial steeple]

the ussr airforce usually sucks so you have that

[halcyon nimbus]

i only have like 70 hours so this might be bad but my tank divisions are 8 medium tanks and 7 motorized infantry should i change that

with motorized recon, artillery, anti air and engineer company

[glacial steeple]

thats ok

[glacial steeple]

those support companies are bad because they dont give any terrain buffs and are not field hospitals

[halcyon nimbus]

ok which ones should i use for it instead, i think i have all of them researched

[glacial steeple]

ranger recon, field hospital, armored assault engineers, logistics company and flame tanks

[halcyon nimbus]

also, i have 162 military factories in 1942, is that enough because i focused on production for the first 4 years

[vital jay]

Need help with dominance it just doesn't grow and i don't understand, you can notice i have a lot of task forces in the region but the value keeps at 0 :(
Is it a bug with the new navy rework ? Or am i missing something ?

[halcyon nimbus]

i have noticed that it only goes up if the navy is set to the "patrol" mission

[vital jay]

Still 0

[halcyon nimbus]

goes up over time

[hollow linden]

Should go up in about 40 days

Hover over the zone

[pliant charm]

If you give advice with modded playthroughs, answer me. If not, then dont!

I was playing R56 for the first time, and took a carefull look at the Infantry tech tree. Its not hard to miss the loads and loads of buffs and new options available to you, which made me wonder if infantry is a solid option, that might even compete with tanks. Mainly asking because im playing as germany, and I am quite torn between the Prussian legacy and adopt new Panzer doctrine. (Doing communist alt history, so lots of manpower)

[inland rune]

Can somebody send me a good german inf template

[serene karma]

Infantry is a very good option even in vanilla

Rt56 shock troops are even better

[pliant charm]

Okay, thanks to that

[hollow linden]

Inf has been op for a while now

Just look at this

[patent cloak]

navy. i produced new ships and stuff but it doesnt show. also how do i transport ships from one port to the other?

[vital jay]

April of 1944 and i didn't change a thing

[hollow linden]

Hover over the sea zone what does it say

[hollow linden]

Are ships on patrol in that sea zone

If not, put them up, hover again

[vital jay]

yes they were, and even strike forces

[hollow linden]

Were, not are

Why are you taking them down

U need both patrol and strike force to keep supremacy

Strike force by itself doesn't give supremacy it simply amplifies the base dominance from patrol missions

[stone salmon]

Does anybody want to play a game

[hollow linden]

Dawg, wrong channel

#alt-history-multiplayer

[stone salmon]

Thanks sorry

[vital jay]

Sorry English is not my main language, but i did put both Patrol and Strike and nothing changed, i upgraded ports in the ocean zone and still not a change

[hollow linden]

OK, so put ships on patrol and strike force in that sea zone, hover over the zone and see what it says

[jagged hull]

It's my first time playing so I'm so happy I don't know which nation I should pick

[patent cloak]

can someone help me?

[hollow linden]

If you did both it should say "increases to [amount] in 40 days"

[hardy kayak]

what type of plane should i use to make a navel bomber?

[hollow linden]

Or something like that

[vital jay]

will try

thanks

[hollow linden]

Ye np

[spark merlin]

New ships should be in the reserve fleet. If you want to move your ships click the little port icon where you want them to go. You have to select the task forces manually as well you cant click the big one

If that makes sense

[patent cloak]

absolutly not but i will try btw whats thediffrence with patrol and strike force?

[spark merlin]

Patrol means you have your ships out in the water lookin around for guys

[patent cloak]

how do i access the reserve fleet? btw

[patent cloak]

that i understand

but what do they do in stats

[spark merlin]

And strike force means if any guys are spotted they’ll leave port and attack

Patrol gives the most naval dominance since your out there

Strike force gives a little less but still contributes

[patent cloak]

oh i thought it was oppisate

so have them all on patrol?

[spark merlin]

I think that’s right

Lemme check

Patrol will use your oil up fast

[hardy kayak]

should i also use that to patrol or no?

[spark merlin]

And if there’s lots of enemies they might get into a lot of fights

[patent cloak]

oh yeah how do i get oil actually cause i have trade deals but still says out of fuel

[hollow linden]

Patrol?

What?

[patent cloak]

so lets say britain or italy?

[spark merlin]

Ye

[hardy kayak]

navel patrol

[hollow linden]

.... That's an air mission?

[spark merlin]

If your out of oil despite trade you might just be using too much

[hollow linden]

What for?

[patent cloak]

ok and about how do i access reserve fleet

[hollow linden]

Just put these on naval strike

[spark merlin]

Should just be at the bottom of the naval list thingy

Send a screenshot of your task force list

[halcyon nimbus]

is the historical ai just completely inaccurate? in 1943 spain is communist and attacking germany

[patent cloak]

cant

but alright

like "italian theater one" or smth

?

[spark merlin]

yeah

usually new ships are at the bottom

it'll be called reserve fleet

should be at least

[patent cloak]

hmm ok?

how do i sub spam

jst produce subs and stuff right?

[spark merlin]

you make a cheap sub and put all your dockyards on em

like design a cheap one

[patent cloak]

how do i put dockyards on stuff?

[hollow linden]

If u do smth unhistorical, AI will too

It's not entirely accurate anyhoe

[spark merlin]

same way you put stuff on guns, planes, etc

[hollow linden]

Just the focuses are, not the actions of the country

[patent cloak]

ohh that

ok

i think i understand it now

[spark merlin]

if you havent been making ships you wont have new ones in reserve

[patent cloak]

thank you

much appreciated

[spark merlin]

np

do you have the navy dlc?

[patent cloak]

only mann the guns

:(

[halcyon nimbus]

idk what i could have done to make them ally with the soviet union

[spark merlin]

yeh thats the main one

[hollow linden]

Idfk

Maybe win in Spain?

Ur supposed to send vols

[patent cloak]

didnt it get merged with the base game tho?

[spark merlin]

o maybe

[hollow linden]

It did

[patent cloak]

aww

well thats money gone to waste

[hollow linden]

It'd not purchaseable anymore

[hollow linden]

Oich

That hurts

[spark merlin]

:(

thats why I

uh

wait for sales!

yeah!

thats it

[patent cloak]

honestly i want some challange like a minor but not yugoslavia or belgium type minor should i do romaina or hungary?

[spark merlin]

Yeah they're okay

[patent cloak]

ima do austria hungary ok cya

[scenic nacelle]

Historical Switzerland 🔥

[spark merlin]

goodluck!

[patent cloak]

i am only have like 70 smth hours

im such a noob

[spark merlin]

only in hoi4 does 70 hours mean your a noob

lol

you'll learn!

[patent cloak]

200 hours still noob

[spark merlin]

ask stuff!

[patent cloak]

ok bay

bye

[spark merlin]

there goes my hero

@patent cloak just for future refrence this is where your new ships end up

[patent cloak]

ahhh

ok thanks

[spark merlin]

where the 3 subs are

NP

[patent cloak]

you are my hero

[charred fable]

So, it's April 1939. I have generated 11% world tension. I have a free annex on Paraguay, but was thinking of justifying on Bolivia first, just to get full encirclement of Paraguay, and make it a bit more easier. If I start justifying now, will the allies begin to guarantee Bolivia, can I go ahead, or will be better waiting until Germany kicks off WW2?

[vital jay]

I restarted the game, it was bugged!
Now it works

[heady mesa]

Hi, Im new to HOI4 and I want to win the german civil war as democratic germany as quick as possible. Any tips or strategies? And will landing paratroopers in berlin work?

I already tried playing as democratic Germany once btw and even won the civil war, but it was painfully slow and the timeline turned cursed soon, maybe i forgot historical ai so im trying again

[glacial steeple]

ai will go ahistorical if you go ahist

especially on majors like germany

[heady mesa]

alr

do you think parachuting several divisions into berlin will work?

I did the focuses and research necessary for paratroopers

[glacial steeple]

its a method

usually youd do the war ASAP

and also finish in like a year max

you dont need to do any focuses for them?

[deft quarry]

How to make civil war arena MP?

[heady mesa]

I did the focuses

Establish the falmisjager or smth

[fathom thistle]

Does annexing Hungary as Germany break the first Vienna award or does it just bypass it?

[sinful vessel]

What is usefull on my 1937 flame tank template ? Just the turet and the flamer ?

[fathom thistle]

Pretty much. Cheapest ones are fine.

[hardy kayak]

how do i close a strait?

[fathom thistle]

If you are like not stacking armor meme or need breaktrhoguh that much

[sinful vessel]

Same for early spg ?

[stuck garnet]

Add heavy machine guns

[opaque garden]

download state transfer tool for 1.16

[fathom thistle]

For spg just make them decent. Rather have less of them for 2-4 divs then have bad ones

[opaque garden]

is cast armor good for late game

?

[fathom thistle]

Everything gets penned at some point so it's not worth the ic. Riveted is fine

[opaque garden]

I have 2k mills

ans im stockpiling 2m inf equipmet

idk what else to make

my fighter and cas already cost 60

and i still have a decent amount of them in storage

[fathom thistle]

Just conquer the world at this point

😄

[winter drift]

Guys i need i a good counter to hevy tanks htd that's affordable for a minor

[pliant condor]

well, there's no other CAS option

wait no you said continuous strike

no you pick battlefield air interdiction

[stuck garnet]

Hmm

[opaque garden]

sea lion to usa

[stuck garnet]

Try to encircle

[pliant condor]

continuous strike is air support mission efficiency which give useless stats for CAS

[opaque garden]

its so annoying

[pliant condor]

not ground attack

[kind pewter]

is this div peak or does it need changes

[fathom thistle]

Tbh it's easier probably to just invade south America and make up your way to USA

[stuck garnet]

Not peak

[fathom thistle]

South America*

[kind pewter]

what should i change

[stuck garnet]

Mot has no stats

Mech

[pliant condor]

research gun 2

[opaque garden]

got africa as the first fully controlled continent

[stuck garnet]

10/8 mech armored methinks

[pliant condor]

and use a real tank design

[opaque garden]

well liberia

[stuck garnet]

Actually nvm

[opaque garden]

but that doesn't count

[kind pewter]

in the middle of that, was kinda late to it

[winter drift]

I do but wen Germany bring 20 heavy tanks to my border it ain't happening

[stuck garnet]

What are you trying to do?

[stuck garnet]

Real

[pliant condor]

what germany

[stuck garnet]

Do you have at?

[kind pewter]

need to take down france annd soviet

[stuck garnet]

At support companies

[winter drift]

Ye I just get eaten

[pliant condor]

?

[stuck garnet]

Maybe try spy agencies too

Spies

Put spies in germany

[winter drift]

Fascist

[kind pewter]

better howitzer or what?

[stuck garnet]

Less planning and entrenchment

[pliant condor]

no im asking who is playing germany

[pliant condor]

your stats are so bad that you probably have gun 1 in the infantry

always get gun 2

also research 1939 artillery

[kind pewter]

i dont...

[winter drift]

Every time its the same guys who has i think 4,2k h

[pliant condor]

so you put howitzer on your spg

[kind pewter]

did a while ago

its onn howitzer

[pliant condor]

you are france?

[pliant condor]

try to match this design

sorry wrong ping

[winter drift]

Some times I usually main the Belgium

[gusty briar]

What determines how many divisions an occupied territory needs, I know obvious occupation law and resistance, but is the amount of suppression needed based on population or factories or what?

Im playing Portugal and struggling with man power (y tf did the change the request garrison support mechanic) and I have decent non-core man power (over 1%) but not sure where it'll be worth it to Annex vs puppet

[charred fable]

I'll cakewalk the rest of South America, so is it worth dipping into moving the doctrine for fighters or just leave it CAS focused?

[kind pewter]

whats the thing in the last slot?

[winter drift]

And i know they are supposed to get slammed

[pliant condor]

armor skirt

it's not important

just make sure you have 2 hmg and nothing that increaase your production cost

[pliant condor]

well, yeah

if the germany player have half a brain cell

although most don't

in the new version it's a lot harder honestly

go sfp + great war infantry + desperate defense

and you need signal in the inf

then prey

[winter drift]

Btw these are some devs I run sometimes are these viable

[pliant condor]

if you make this type of stuff you would obviously die

[winter drift]

Meh worth a try

[kind pewter]

this is for pvp?

[pliant condor]

well, you probably would fight air against someone eventually, so not a bad idea to click it

[winter drift]

I threw 1 game out the window for these

[pliant condor]

also the best fighter doctrine it gives range as well

[winter drift]

No for defending against tanks

[kind pewter]

oh

[pliant condor]

at is garbage btw

don't make at 1

better ot have more divs out

[kind pewter]

i dont know why youd need that much hard attack

[winter drift]

Ig

[half glade]

why cant i add assault engineer company to this?

[frozen spoke]

how do i use nukes?

I have them but idk how to use them

[pliant condor]

you need to do a special project to have it

[half glade]

god damn it

[frozen spoke]

yeah I have 2 nukes but i have no idea how to use them

[pliant condor]

for the nuke you need to a raid

[stuck garnet]

armored vehicles special project

[pliant condor]

see this button here

[kind pewter]

nukes require stat bombers and i dont think anyone uses those

[frozen spoke]

ah ty

[winter drift]

Btw if I got the chance is it worth trying mech divs prob not

[kind pewter]

if your on mobile warfare i guess so

[pliant condor]

no

to hold against tank what you need is more infantry divisions that can reinforce

so make the cheapest possible, get signal company, and make a lot of it

[winter drift]

Like how much for each tile

[kind pewter]

oh mechanized would be terrible agaisnt tanks actually

[winter drift]

Ye I said prob not

[kind pewter]

i thought you meant in general

mb

[marble temple]

Are they ever going to fix this where your units get trapped in non-hostile nations and can't move?

It's such a bug, and no fun.

[pliant condor]

belgium? probably get 10

[winter drift]

All good

[winter drift]

Dam

[jagged hull]

can anyone help me im new to the game

[royal vapor]

guys, when playing as austria i noticed joining a faction removes the anti-anschluss decisions, does that mean germany can't anschluss me at all forever or only for the time i'm in the faction? or it's just a cosmetic change and they can still anschluss me if they get enough divs?

[trim pine]

is there a command to add off map factory?

[glacial steeple]

no

[kind pewter]

I should just start a game with everything researched and 1k factories as liberia or somethin

[glacial steeple]

you can play how you want

though i will say having all research typically inflates your battle stats to the point of not being able to tell what may be better for you

[kind pewter]

No idea what you mean by battle stats

[neat widget]

Paradox should remove tanks

[sinful vessel]

I4m always a bit afraid when i see this kind of stats, mine are always way lower ^^

[neat widget]

This can't be good for gameplay

[glacial steeple]

its fine usually theyre lower anyway

[glacial steeple]

still less OP than cas currently

[kind pewter]

Damn what combination of modifiers could do that

[glacial steeple]

it says so on the screenshot

[kind pewter]

Ik

But like the ones that arent

[kind pewter]

Remove the 2nd most popular troop?

[sinful vessel]

My elite division fighting ^^

[neat widget]

At least with CAS you can rest easy

[kind pewter]

Probably the modifiers

[glacial steeple]

thats not particularly great

[neat widget]

With tanks if you don't literally break yourself from vibrations then you are failing to micro them properly

[kind pewter]

Unless your base divs are bad

[sinful vessel]

Indeed. I'm bad, and i'm in spain in 37.

I hope it's not only the first ^^

[jagged hull]

can anyone teach me how to play

[kind pewter]

Watch an hour long tutorial

[neat widget]

Mostly just build mils

[kind pewter]

Civ greed until 38

[quaint mantle]

"Hey! I’m UK and my friend is Canada. Can we make Canada fully independent early in the game, not just a Dominion, and without any DLC? Any trick or button for that?"

[neat widget]

add_autonomy can 3000
pp 300
and then click the button

[jagged hull]

well germay it is

[glacial steeple]

oh in spain you have like a 90% penalty

just hover over it

[quaint mantle]

Are you talking to me or him before me

[wild stone]

hey im new can anyone help me :D

[neat widget]

Yeah unplanned offensive be like

[neat widget]

I'm talking to you

add_autonomy adds autonomy

[glacial steeple]

maybe

[neat widget]

and then you need 300 political power to become independent

These are both console commands

[quaint mantle]

its that a command

[kind pewter]

Ye

[kind pewter]

In what way?

[rapid urchin]

how do i annex the warlords as china?

[glacial steeple]

declare war

or spend 5 million pp

[quaint mantle]

some other ways without command

[kind pewter]

Dude why would he even need to be independent anyways

[glacial steeple]

lend lease to overlord, fight

[sinful vessel]

It's just RNG to create good lvl general ? in this game, my first 3 are bad 😕

[glacial steeple]

or like

go down an ahist path in the focus tree

[glacial steeple]

no?

in terms of levelling its based on the day and gameseed

[sinful vessel]

lvl 1 i meant

[glacial steeple]

why are you using a level 1

your lowest brilliant strat is level 2

which is +1 attack point roll per level up

[sinful vessel]

i just wanted to create a fresh one. Maybe useless though ^^ (as probably a lot of thing i do)

[kind pewter]

You can make new generals?

[neat widget]

Wait

[sinful vessel]

Yes, when choosing one, you have a button below

[neat widget]

1 attack point roll per level up?!

I thought it was just a one time thing

[sinful vessel]

I think it's more a +1 chance of a +1 on lvling up

[glacial steeple]

yeah its pretty nice

from 2 to 3

[rapid urchin]

is it easier for china to fend off japan now? (as china)

[frosty lava]

Does preparing a collaboration government make it so you can't use 14 civs for 60 days?

[rapid urchin]

yes

[glacial steeple]

vs ai or player

[rapid urchin]

vs ai japan

[glacial steeple]

yeah pretty reasonable

[rapid urchin]

so whats the basic idea that i need to do for china?

just get my army tons of guns at the start?

or do i try to sort out the army first

because it looks worse than previous china

[glacial steeple]

make gun

well you dont start with prod efficiency

so you can make an arty line for supp arty

[rapid urchin]

okay

[rapid urchin]

what about focuses?

[glacial steeple]

industry good

army focuses okay

[hardy kayak]

can someone explain this? there are no U.S. troops

[glacial steeple]

they capitulated to the US

[hardy kayak]

how the com polish are still there?

[glacial steeple]

they still have some units probably from their allies after capitulating

or disconnected from capital

[hardy kayak]

why would they capitulate to th us if i took their captial and cities?

[rapid urchin]

can i do a non agression pact cheese?

[neat widget]

weird capitulation shenanigans

[rapid urchin]

to delay the war with japan

[glacial steeple]

because the US had more war participation/score on them

[rapid urchin]

basically get a non agression pact with japan

[hardy kayak]

when i defeat the soviets will the us just keep that?

[glacial steeple]

theyll keep it occupied unless theres a peacedeal/occupation change

[rapid urchin]

bump?

[glacial steeple]

idk

try

[hardy kayak]

so if i defeat the Soviets will i get more warscore or will the US since its been in the war longer?

[glacial steeple]

i dont think you can

[glacial steeple]

you can check in the war screen

stuff like occupation, kills, planes killed count

[sinful vessel]

is there a usefull strat bombing doctrine if i don't really use strat bomber ?

[kind pewter]

Navy gives so much warscore

Legit soloed a war that the uk happened to be in and uk got 70% war score

[opaque garden]

why are you even strat bombing in the first place

[neat widget]

They aren't

They just have like 500 air xp

[sinful vessel]

i don't. but as i always have too much air point, i try to spend them

[opaque garden]

oh

[opaque garden]

idk

[charred fable]

Just throw it into whatever then lmao.

[opaque garden]

build a really expensive jet fighter for no reason at all

and put one mil on it

[sinful vessel]

I'm far from jet.

[opaque garden]

best use of your xp

[charred fable]

If you have the industry, built the intercontinental bomber for shits and gigs

[opaque garden]

oh which year

[charred fable]

12000km

[opaque garden]

AMERIKABOMBER

[sinful vessel]

38

[charred fable]

Ja

[opaque garden]

broski

wtf

what have you done

[sinful vessel]

nothing. but upgrading plane is so cheap

[charred fable]

You haven't filled your air doctrine with fighters and CAS by 38. I'm in July 39 and I've not done it on one branch.

[opaque garden]

DEUTSCHLAND SIEGT AN ALLE KANTEN!🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

btw have yall ever seen the pop up of soviet capturing warsaw

[sinful vessel]

i've bought BBA some days ago, and i can't find ways to spend air points

[opaque garden]

or soviet breaking ribbentrop pact

[sinful vessel]

sur, but i can't spend my air xp into

[charred fable]

You have the three other branches right?

[sinful vessel]

yes

[charred fable]

Fighter, cas and tac?

In 38, you've filled them all? Wtf

[sinful vessel]

i've changed my fighter, cas and tac models too.

[charred fable]

But you have filled the doctrines?

[sinful vessel]

No, they are not full.

[charred fable]

Then grab some.

[sinful vessel]

i may use the wrong words. i want to spend this

I can't use this on doctrine once the sub doctrines are unlocked.

it's just for building planes, or i've missed something ?

[neat widget]

what do your fighter, cas, and tac look like

[neat widget]

try to unlock improved airframe soon

[sinful vessel]

yes, and the fuel tank. But this will cost very few point to improve the template. I'm just a bit surprised to have so much points compared to army and navy

And i've changed nothing to the tac, i don't know if i should make them bigger, with more engines.

[kind pewter]

Speaking of planes

Does speed really matter

[jagged hull]

Ok how can I deploy cast

[fathom thistle]

Cast?

U mean cas or?

[forest widget]

which airframes are usually best for navs? do you also put the camera on navs for scouting?

[stiff moth]

If you finish Organisation Todt you can still cycle in Speer and keep the bonus can't you? just no PH focus

[versed rose]

medium airframe double torp is best nav

[forest widget]

ty, do u put recon camera on it? or do u use fighters

[versed rose]

the navs spot for themselves

dont use camera

[glacial steeple]

they dont

you need fighters

[versed rose]

do they not?

[glacial steeple]

they do not

RADAR also does it tho

[versed rose]

ah that's what i was misremembering

[glacial steeple]

typically a uk player would have RADAR or fighters

[versed rose]

because i swear i never needed fighters to spot for navs lmao

[tranquil kayak]

The reino de filipinas path, are the focuses to merge affected by anything? So far spain argentina and venezuela have all declined to merge with me to the point I feel this is gonna be a dead run

[spark swallow]

Fighters and radar doesn’t spot

It provides air efficiency

[rain iris]

why cant my fleet reach this seazone it is only three seazones away from the port

[glacial steeple]

it does 😭

all flying planes spot and RADAR spots

navs dont fly unless theres a battle iirc

which is why spotting cruisers can work for navs too but its kinda ehh

[neat widget]

You should get the highest level of torpedo possible

torpedo 1 is honestly trash, CAS literally performs better I'm pretty sure

[neat widget]

Honestly I found spotting cruisers quite reliable

[neat widget]

You don't have the range

[rain iris]

how can you increase range?

[neat widget]

For existing hulls

there's a thing you can do with them

Which is refit them with an MIO that has

[spark swallow]

Well maybe they do but that’s not what you use them

[rain iris]

how do you assgn a MIO to existing ships

[neat widget]

Refit them with the MIO on

By the way, I have to say one thing

There's no other way of increasing a ship's range other than doing this

Unless you're a cruiser/fleet submarine in which case there's a range module

[raw wharf]

About 10 hours of gameplay and 10 hours of watching vids and playthroughs in.

Have a Technology Sharing Issue. Can't find the fix.

Played France and denied the Rhineland. After Czechs had war declared on them I was in their alliance. I left that alliance after Czechs fell to Go with Britain and joined the Allies. I see no bonuses on my tech tree for research time for anything other than my own bonuses.

For example, no faction sharing bonus for say Marines in early '42.

[rain iris]

i

where can you refit something

im pretty new to navy

is that in the production tab?

[neat widget]

So first thing you do is open the fleet
Then you click the ship icon
Then that window pops up with its stats, you click design

And then you can refit it

[lyric kraken]

I have no mods on yet it doesnt let me play ironman mode

Idk if cheats I have on

[rain iris]

for some reason i dont have any MIO

[gusty briar]

Is non-aligned or the agrarian communist path for Japan any fun?

Or should I just do comm lecturer path Japan? Want to do a run as them, historical is a little to easy though it seems atm

[neat widget]

what?!

Which country is this

[rain iris]

Brasil

[glacial steeple]

yeah it relies on your faction researching stuff before you

usually that doesnt happen a lot

[neat widget]

Which path is this

[glacial steeple]

and i think ur in the czech sharing stuff

[rain iris]

monarchy

[glacial steeple]

yeah you start with none

i think

[rain iris]

can you get any?

[glacial steeple]

focuses

[rain iris]

but how can a fleet not reach portugal.

[neat widget]

Oh that sucks

[neat widget]

There are focuses to get more naval MIOs for democratic and communist Brazil but not non-aligned or fascist Brazil

Unfortunate

So the only naval MIO they have is escort shipbuilders

Which can only be used on screens and, of course, carriers

Maybe they should invest in escort carriers and heavy cruisers ig

[glacial steeple]

you already have one

just invade capo verde

[neat widget]

Cabo Verde is still too far

[glacial steeple]

im pretty sure it isnt

tho new update

messes with range

[neat widget]

They might just be able to get to Madeira but that's even questionable

[rain iris]

what ships should you build to get more range, or does it not work like that

[neat widget]

Later hulls tend to have more range

[glacial steeple]

it isnt averaged

[rain iris]

and does the overall range of your fleet increase then or does it have the range of the ship with the lowest range.

[neat widget]

Yeah it's the minimum in task force

so yeah you may have to replace your screening fleet with a fleet of 1944 cruisers

[rain iris]

that will take forever. Didn't have this isue when playing other countries. Is this because my fleet sucks?

[neat widget]

fleet submarines by far have the longest range btw

Literally like 10000+ km range if you build for it

[rain iris]

really? i expected they would have the smallest. Do they bring any naval supremacy?

[neat widget]

But they're like between 1/3 and 1/4 the efficiency of carriers at supremacy

[rain iris]

ah okey

[neat widget]

If you really really need naval supremacy on the other side of the world for some reason

[rain iris]

thanks!

[neat widget]

Yeah but this is nowhere near optimal since we aren't fighting half way across the world

If you have access to nuclear engines this is perhaps the best ship at gaining naval supremacy

Perhaps this is the best you can do without special projects

[raw wharf]

RIP. Thanks

Would have thought America would have something, if not the Brits.

[fickle girder]

new player here! Trying to conquer the arabian paninsula as Saudi is there anything else i should focus on besides construction, national focus, and research.

[glacial steeple]

not rlly but i wouldnt recommend saudi arabia

its like one of the weakest nations in the area

yemen is better since it united has more core pop and is just more defendable

and syria only requires a civil war to be free but is solid otherwise

[fickle girder]

yemen?!

[glacial steeple]

iraq also isnt too bad

[glacial steeple]

better than saudi

[fickle girder]

but gpt said otherwise ;/

damn thanks..

[glacial steeple]

dont trust ai especially on hoi stuff lol

oman is prob worse than saudi

[fickle girder]

cool was about to aks iff oman would've been better

also wouldn't irag be the best

or even iran

[glacial steeple]

iran doesnt have the formable

[lyric kraken]

Is Joachim peiper in the game

[vital geode]

There arent many SS generals in the game

You have Hussar, Steiner, and a few others, but not the war criminal you want

[lyric kraken]

mustve been a mod then cus I saw a video and he was there

[gusty briar]

Damn I think my communist Japan save got bugged.

I won the Civil war but im still at war with the colonies?

That's not sullosed to happen right?

I also am having crazy inefficient trade even though I have 50 destroyers on convoy protecting, and my enemies have literally no navies?, every sea is neutral but im getting 1/16 on resources?

Is there anything else that could cause that, im not low on resources?

[hard lion]

I´m a new player and I heard DLCs were really recommended for this game. Are there specific ones that are a must purchase?

[open musk]

I recommand bosprus dlc first.

[dusky girder]

My volunteer divisions that I send to fight Ethiopia stuck...?

[hardy kayak]

whats better the modern tank or the super heavy tank?

[cold bloom]

Might be a vanilla bug, I saw someone yesterday with the same issue

[opaque garden]

are u kidding me rn?

dont buy bosporus first

adds no actual game mechanic

buy no set back

la resistance

and by blood alone

maybe arms against tyranny

buy tbh I just buy the subscription

way cheaper and more cost effective

[opaque garden]

neither

[hardy kayak]

then what?

[opaque garden]

medium tank

ig heavy tanks are ok

but mechanized

medium tanks if yoi really want tanks

[hardy kayak]

what about modern tanks?

[opaque garden]

ye jg

theyre basically better medium tanks

I mean heavy tank is good with space marines

but they aint really meta rn

and mediums also get the job done

[wild rune]

they might have be a exile country and are not registered as the war being over

idk tho

[hardy kayak]

do i need all the medium techs or can i just go through heavy to get the modern?

[opaque garden]

do u have no step back?

[hardy kayak]

i have the sub

[opaque garden]

tf does that mean?

[hardy kayak]

subscription

[fickle girder]

uhhh what now

the desert is killing me it takes ages before divisions get the supplies they need

[heady mesa]

Hello, what are strong enough countries with close to no naval combat required and easy enough to play?

[royal vapor]

switzerland

[glacial steeple]

you have no manpower

also its 1945 and you havent been able to take out 1 nation

[fickle girder]

at 10% to

[glacial steeple]

admittedly yemen is genuinely pretty powerful and defendable

but i did tell you saudi arabia is like the worst choice

its large with bad infrastructure a terrible supply system and a terrible manpower pool

[fickle girder]

yh you did i was planning on playing yemen aftert the run

[glacial steeple]

having played the nation i can say its just very bad

and forming arabia isnt beginner friendly anyway but ehh

[fickle girder]

also i just figured that population really really matterts

[fickle girder]

haviing fun atleast i thin i am

#@%$ yemen

[glacial steeple]

yeah ofc it matters

its like how many people you can field in the army

the generic focus tree gives 400 weekly manpower

which in games like this you should rush for

[nocturne cloak]

Iraq better

[fickle girder]

i think that my current focus tree is pretty good

[glacial steeple]

should be generic unless youre using like road to 56

which is weaker than vanilla generic tree

im pretty sure anyway

[fickle girder]

thiis is what im rocking

[glacial steeple]

oh yeah you shouldve done the communist bit

its a lot stronger

you dont have to actually turn communist

[fickle girder]

damn was avoiding that cause i wantede to stay non alligned

i can still change it right?

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt force flip you lol

[fickle girder]

i can't..

[glacial steeple]

theyre mutually exclusive

[narrow grail]

I can't refit greek submarines wtf

Even did templated based from one they were built on

[neat widget]

Click on the sub icon on the left and then go to the design tab

Maybe that will allow you to refit?

[narrow grail]

That's exactly what I did

[lavish parcel]

so, quick question, if i am in a faction, and i declare war on someone, will my faction members then also be in a war with them? AI shit of course.

[narrow grail]

If you call them

[olive tapir]

until you call them in i think they cant until they mannually justify and then declare waar

[lavish parcel]

call them?

do pray tell i dont know what that means.

[olive tapir]

if open the war tab theres a button called call and when you press it yourt allies get calledd in which then escalates into a faction war

[narrow grail]

Open diplomacy menu and you'll have the button "Call to arms"

[lavish parcel]

This is embarrassing but I don't know where the war tab is 😅

[olive tapir]

what are the meme strats for the sovietss to get romania and turkey early cuz everytime i play the soviets i can never hold the germans

the one on the left

[lavish parcel]

How do invasions across sea work? I cant seem to send any convoys because the game wants me to claim naval dominance in area's but how am I supposed to be able to claim naval dominance alll the way from Australia to Britain?

[lyric geyser]

Just island hop

Or invade from a ally

[lavish parcel]

Whats an island hop?

[lyric geyser]

Just go across islands to get closer

like invade islands invade Africa

It’s a massive pain from Australia to uk if you have no allies in Europe

[opaque garden]

which country should I play (all dlc) im bored am im willing yo do a long run

[lavish parcel]

How do I go across islands? because I cant seem to do it without claiming ocean superiority which is the problem.

[lavish parcel]

I'm apart of the axis.

[lyric geyser]

I mean your fleets prob just worse than the uk

[lyric geyser]

It’s a it easier then esp if France is occupied as you can move your navy there and naval invade from France

[opaque garden]

paratroopers

[lyric geyser]

Meaning you only need sup in the English Channel

[lavish parcel]

How am I supposed to get these thing's? I have them researched.

[narrow grail]

Why I can't beat France in Alps as Italy?

Sure, mountains are mountains but it can't be that desperate, even with air superiority

[scenic nacelle]

Press the button on the right in that screenshot

[lavish parcel]

The create variant button?

I see! Thank you.

[half glade]

whats the best things to research for navy?

[exotic bronze]

don't understand why my level 5 forts are doing nothing at all

[scenic nacelle]

Are ur forts being bombed?

[exotic bronze]

i can't tell

[scenic nacelle]

Go in repair

[exotic bronze]

hm, not fully thou

[scenic nacelle]

I mean the uhh

Construction

Ok nvm

Are u sure that’s the right tile?

Because there should atleast be a -1% fort attack debuff for them

[exotic bronze]

yea it's the right tile

cpu cheats as usual? lol

[scenic nacelle]

My guess would be a game bug

If u win the battle and have another battle it should show up?

And why no frontline

[light geyser]

Hello. We'll be playing an historical mp with my friends tonight, and I'll be playing historical UK.

As expected, I need to control my navy wisely, but unfortunately I have zero experience about navy (especially worse after the new dlc).

I've learned about some basics like what specific ship kinds do or why do we petrol etc. But I still need tips. Could someone inform me about what I should be doing with my navy? Should I produce carriers as UK? What are some keypoints, could someone help?

[exotic bronze]

it's across all the battles

[lyric geyser]

Good carriers are important if you don’t have them researching improved light battery and cruser is also good, and researching super heavy battleships is good with a naval facility

[exotic bronze]

wondering if it's coded or something

[jagged hull]

I think I'm screwed

I need help

[scenic nacelle]

The UK has enough carriers

Put a mil or 2 on carrier naval bombers

Put those in carrier air wings

Let me find the navy templates rq

Do something like these

Spam those and u should be fine

[native depot]

Guys did the no compromise no surrender dlc make Japan insanely strong or is it just me??

[scenic nacelle]

Strong

[native depot]

Yeah it’s so op

[light geyser]

Thank you so much

[native depot]

What changed exactly ?

[scenic nacelle]

Literally everything Japan related

Navy rework, more Chinas

[light geyser]

Should I try to fight japan for rubber (sending half of the navy there?) or will keeping garrison there be enough?

[scenic nacelle]

The whole Japanese focus trees

Islands

[scenic nacelle]

Garrison should be fine

[light geyser]

Playing China feels hardcore now

Pure pain

[scenic nacelle]

May I ask who the other players will be?

[light geyser]

Probably USA, USSR and one more allied nation

Could be France

[scenic nacelle]

USA can send the navy to the pacific and deal with them

Urs can be in Europe

[light geyser]

Great

Thanks

[scenic nacelle]

And I highly recommend getting anti sub stuff for the UK

[light geyser]

Do you think I should be actively fighting Italy in Mediterranean

Or shall I keep the navy in the channel and blockade germans

[scenic nacelle]

U will curb stomp them anyways

Like 60 or so ships is enough for dominance in the channel anyways

[light geyser]

Sounds easy

[scenic nacelle]

And if u can, try to diplo annex British Malaya

U will get like 10-25 more civs from trade if u do

I think u can lend lease them convoys at game start at that should work

[light geyser]

Uh wouldn't that make the supply line a bit hard to secure

[scenic nacelle]

Wdym

[light geyser]

Sending supplies to Malaya's garrison from London would be pure pain

Especially in case we lose Gibraltar or suez

[scenic nacelle]

The USA can garrison the pacific if needed

I’m just saying that since Malaysia will give u a great economic boost

[light geyser]

Sounds wise

Alright, thanks for your help!

[scenic nacelle]

No problem

Good luck

[half glade]

how the hell do i use navy

im genuinely gonna crashout bro

i do not understand how you group them whatsoever

[fathom thistle]

Spam max light attack light cruisers with armor 2 or 3 and u good

[half glade]

thats not the problem

the ui is so incredibly frustrating

[fathom thistle]

You want to group taskforces to one or?

[serene shadow]

What's the best way to attack the USSR from China? If anyone asks, I'm playing as Japan. But after attacking Xinjiang, I feel like my army isn't ready for it. I simply need to get to Europe to force Norway to capitulate.

[fluid wharf]

air and logi in inf

and snake for supplu hubs

push for supply hub

wait push

[stuck garnet]

Idk taking supply hubs feels so goated

Is the dlc worth the money

Like

I want it

But the priceeee

The

The money

Idk the more i play hoi4 the more i want to bring back the soviet union cause the prices for the dlc is insane

Like chat😭

This game is expensive

Mini wh40k experience

I mean at least i know im gonna pump a lot of hours in this game

Since theres a lot you can do

Its a good game

Just costs a lotta money

[stuck garnet]

Ncns specifically

[upper basin]

NCNS aint that good twin, but I get your point

[stuck garnet]

"New content : D"
"Why does it cost 30$"

Like chat

Istg i feel like its thanksgiving everytime i talk about this stuff

[upper basin]

You do what you do buddy

I'm playing a winter special game rn

[stuck garnet]

Me when i wanna play the new china content but its paradox:

Why do things cost money

[mint kite]

Don't be poor dumbass

[open lynx]

Yeah bro if youre homeless js buy a house icl

[exotic bronze]

so when i max out a sub-doctrine that's it?

the mastery bonus doesn't transfer if i change sub-doctrines?

[spiral crag]

is the other left one worth it???

i always done the right one but never the left one should i?

[mint kite]

nah

[spiral crag]

i mean it dosent see bad

what is the diffrence betwen the two?

[mint kite]

less stressy lol

[spiral crag]

wdym "less stressy"

[mint kite]

It doesn't have the economy of conquest thing that makes you need to conquer shit, else your economy slows down

[spiral crag]

ohhh so the right one depends on conquer and the left one dosent

ok thanks

[exotic bronze]

did i get the mastery thing right?

[vernal knoll]

is that good?

[inner sparrow]

no

[vernal knoll]

🥀

[inner sparrow]

just do the one from pinned with spgs

[spiral crag]

30 width tanks division

[hardy kayak]

how many engines should i put on my modern tank?

[inner sparrow]

shouldnt even use modern tanks bc they are worse than any tank chasis before it lol

but no real need to up engine clicks

[hardy kayak]

why do you say that?

[inner sparrow]

because its the truth

[fluid wharf]

u lose all effi

old tanks cant flow in

u cant put hmg

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u get less stats on modern then on basic

upgrading chasis is in most cases not worth it anyways

just use basic chasis

[hardy kayak]

so in 1947 what tank should i use?

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basic

the same u use in 45

only thing that matters is the gun that u use

thats the only big upgrade that u can do, gun and radio

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use this one

good enough for ai, no matter how long ur in the game

even if its like 50

u can change the moduls aswell and put radio in if u really want

not needed for singleplayer tho

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and this one?

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change role to artillery tank

change the gear aswell

and ur fine

also dont use porsche as designer

use henschel

henschel is the best tank mio

stat wise

[kind pewter]

whats in the last slot?

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armored skirt, u can use radio instead

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so like this?

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yeah, for gear I usually use the one that gives bit break but doesnt matter, thats fine

if u want more break max armor