ask-for-help-here

[glacial steeple]

tbh

[slate hazel]

yeah probably

[glacial steeple]

most ai units are pretty small

[slate hazel]

I try to build 3 x 30w medium tank div's with which to punch through

but supply issues are persistent despite fighting next to a port

while having basic 18w inf divs holding line

[glacial steeple]

its a naval invasion

use marines

[slate hazel]

I do and i gain a foothold

but afterwards my assault halts into a massive wall of italian/german divs

[glacial steeple]

ok so

youre in sicily correct

there is a 1 tile path to the mainland and like 3 ports

[slate hazel]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

so you invade those to encircle the units

[slate hazel]

troubles start when i must attack mainland

[glacial steeple]

you dont need all of it

[slate hazel]

i count 27 divs standing in my way

[glacial steeple]

use mountaineer marines

[slate hazel]

oh

[glacial steeple]

use your best general

[slate hazel]

can i naval invade with marine/mountaineer mix

[glacial steeple]

yes because you only need 50% amphib buff to not take penalties

and it cant go positive

[charred fable]

How can I maximise my special forces aside from Mountaineer tree and Tip of the Spear?

[glacial steeple]

play nepal

make army larger

[cerulean abyss]

whats my best course of action here

i have total air and naval supremacy for now but i dont really have much resources to build up my army to be much larger in a reasonable amount of time

[glacial steeple]

restart since its 1942

practice ending the war faster

you also can just push

they have 1 unit per tile in a lot of places

[charred fable]

Is there anyway to guarantee Chile doesn't accept my ultimatum?

[glacial steeple]

prob not

[cerulean abyss]

canada intervened in late 37 i think

[glacial steeple]

thats normal

ive seen kr games

[cerulean abyss]

damn

[glacial steeple]

it should end in like 38 if late iirc

[cerulean abyss]

this is the 2nd time its happened as fed usa and the first time was also tough but they did it after I close my usual socialist encirclement in pennsylvania so i was better prepped

[lapis pasture]

when I trying to play MP there's an error that says "your version is not like the server one". I tryed everything. Off DLCs, on DLCs. Not even 1 of methids r working. What can I do?

[cerulean abyss]

this is right before canada intervened

i started panicking because I got the popup that canada was about to intervene so I tried closing the northeast pocket to defend against canada

the ai kept doing last stand in the pocket though so the canadians almost destroyed my troops up there, then i kinda was fighting for my life for the next few years making minimal gains

[tough oak]

Is this Infantry Temp good? If it isn't anything that I could improve?

[sinful vessel]

What is more important to boost on a pushing division (tank, but with few tank for now), +10% orga, +7,5% break, -7,5 supply or +15% reco ? The first two have my choice but i'm not sure of which one to give

[prime marten]

break is superior for pushing divisions i think

idk the meta but thats my understanding atl

[opaque garden]

too expensive you dont need either logistics or signal and remove 2 infatry if your going for basic Frontline infatry

[glacial steeple]

it defends you while attacking

so its important

[prime marten]

Yeah ik

I just dont know exactly how much better it is than org and stuff

[tall summit]

Hi, my game version is f303, but I can't play multiplayer with my friends because their version is starting with f400. Can you help me?

[stuck garnet]

What mods

[half glade]

i need a good inf div

im gonna start a french civil war

and create the french empire

gonna try fight the british

then germans

then dutch

then ussr

[rapid urchin]

uhmmm

what the heck?

i cant position my fleet in the red zone title even though i have a port RIGHT nearby?????

[sinful vessel]

Because of your dedicated port. You should change it in your fleet tab

[rapid urchin]

dedicated port?

what is that?

nvm i found it

[rapid urchin]

okay

[stuck garnet]

what's the point of militia in hoi4?

does it take the same amount of equipment as infantry does?

how does it differ from traditional infantry?

[rapid urchin]

they get some specil bonuses ircc

certain countries give them as well

[stuck garnet]

ok

like i see the point in irregulars

they are very useful for countries like ethiopia

[rapid urchin]

yeah

[stuck garnet]

divisions with less firepower but take less equipment

[zenith nest]

Can you not even get most the achevements withought all the dlc?

[stuck garnet]

along with terrain buffs

but like

militia

what's the difference between traditional inf and milita?

[fathom thistle]

cheap, you can get some buffs with specific countries

Swiss has them for sure

[rapid urchin]

i think you can

[night zealot]

It says here that my max naval capacity is 6 divisions, however, i have only four assigned to naval invasion

[cold bloom]

Theres also a max plan amount as well

[night zealot]

Where do i see that?

[cold bloom]

Idk if it is anywhere

Its 1 default, then 2 with first tech ig

[night zealot]

oh, its under the naval tab in the doctrines. So i can still assign more divisions to the current invasions

nice

[cold bloom]

Does SPG with doctrine always beat TD with doctrine?

[glacial steeple]

no

good for sp tho

[cold bloom]

SPG is preferable for SP?

📝

[glacial steeple]

SPG is always better if uncountered but when countered its worse than TD when countered

[cold bloom]

Ah ok

What gun?

[glacial steeple]

idk prob howi 2

[cold bloom]

Ah ok

tyyy

[glacial steeple]

tds always use HC2 or HV3

[inner sparrow]

SPG is thanos in sp, 1.5-1.8k soft in template with docs

and td is thanos in mp

acutally both is usuable in mp just for different moments

[glacial steeple]

as long as you fight soft enemies youre chilling

[hardy kayak]

which path is better?

[glacial steeple]

mare nostrum

[inner sparrow]

true

[viscid abyss]

I was playing USA for the first time and suddenly the uk and France declared war on me

Why did this happen

[neat widget]

No

It's just that there aren't a lot of hard targets in singleplayer

[hardy kayak]

why?

[glacial steeple]

other side gives like no buffs? you can still do it

its just worse

[cold bloom]

Switzerland is also hell to attack

[rapid urchin]

its like a triangle now at this point

@inner sparrow

SPG counter infantry

TD counter SPG

Infantry counter TD*

its a bit of a headache to pay attention to but it kinda gets the point across ig

[inner sparrow]

infantry doesn’t counter TD

still dies to TD

why should infantry counter a 600-700 base soft attack tank with 1.3k break in template

[versed rose]

yes let me 'counter' the td with 700 soft attack by running my inf into it

[rapid urchin]

yeah true

[inner sparrow]

it just holds out a bit longer against it than vs spg but it still gets nuked

u have to remember that previous patch old medium howy was considered infantry counter and it had the same soft stat as td

[rapid urchin]

okay

so infantry builds are just always the worst option if you do have the ic for tanks?

[inner sparrow]

no

u can only do tanks in mp if u have good tank stats and a lot of countries don’t

thats why france with its bad economy still is tank nation in allies

bc usa and uk have bad tanks compared to france and ger

[rapid urchin]

thats interesting

[inner sparrow]

u can look it like this, if your country has the infantry tank mio, u can do tanks in mp with it

its a bit over simplified but basically the reason

[rapid urchin]

its just a question of TD vs SPG

in a nutshell

if i understand correctly

[inner sparrow]

no not really

theres just countries that dont have specific tank mios and their tanks are shit bc of that

as example look at gers henschel

[versed rose]

why not UK tank, it has inf tank mio and army offense expert

[inner sparrow]

best tank mio

[inner sparrow]

I don’t remember if their designer is good enough

[versed rose]

bog standard inf tank

better than US stat wise since chrysler is all ic

[rapid urchin]

oh yeah

[steel zealot]

poland defeated me as germany

[rapid urchin]

most well rounded stats

[inner sparrow]

never checked vanilla gb mios but its worse than france if I remember

and they have too much to do anyways

air and special forces are more important

[rapid urchin]

do you think that japan could tanks ever in mp?

it has some good mio's ircc

[inner sparrow]

idk im not iapan makn, ask someone like rommel

[versed rose]

France has 10% more break on heavy and 10% more speed on mediums

but yea ig you kinda need to do the marines as UK

free commando genius

[inner sparrow]

but ig maybe, if you can manage the terrain spgd are probably good

[inner sparrow]

break is important but if hard attack is same from uk and france then its not too bad of a designer

[versed rose]

yea same attack stats

[inner sparrow]

yeah break is one of the reasons them

but main reason is obv. bc they have other things to do that are more important

[versed rose]

ig yea

uk eco isnt quite like GER's where you can vomit out both air and tank ic

[inner sparrow]

uk eco is one of the best in the game

they get more mils than sovs and usa

if done right

[versed rose]

i dont remember, do they have eff cap bonuses

[inner sparrow]

they have okaish mils

not the worst

but they get like 260-270 mils

compared to 250 sovs

but ofc sovs has better mils

[versed rose]

sov mils have like, 20% more eff cap than eng mils

[inner sparrow]

yeah ofc

still its eco is very reliant on allies boosting it

and it still has not enough ic

ic and stats are the reason sov is utter one shot rn

not even 1 yr if equal players

[versed rose]

yea, no effcap means you need more mils on air to match German production

oh yea Soviet one-shot, it keeps getting worse

please paradox lmao

[inner sparrow]

it’s the worst so far

like this update completely killed it and it was already dead

[frosty lava]

First time playing Germany on NCNS, is the meta still to spam out 1 battalion infantry at the beginning of the game?

[glacial steeple]

most dont

[glacial steeple]

uk tanks arent that bad

just no core stats and air / marine better

[viscid abyss]

I was playing USA for the first time and suddenly the uk and France declared war on me

Why did this happen

[prime marten]

if im doing pure inf spam defensive which is best

it used to be MA but its changed now i bet

[inner sparrow]

sfp is best for inf rn

[prime marten]

i will ONLY be defending

pure defence

[inner sparrow]

ma is dead after doctrine change

[inner sparrow]

yes?

sfp is best

0.6 recovery

ma gives nothing and gbp is for attacking

[prime marten]

bbut 5% entrenchment

[inner sparrow]

that entrenchment does jack shit

ur 0.6 recovery is more important for defence

[prime marten]

im begging for a MA buff

mass assault was so good before

[inner sparrow]

it was broken and got nuked

but it was fun

[prime marten]

i loved larping as a revolutionary until i got turned into dust by russia

god theres really nothing saving MA anymore damn

do the arty buffs make line arty viable now?

[inner sparrow]

no it doesn’t

arty is still bad and had the same problem as before

its bad at pushing and offensive, it’s okaish at defending but still not good

and theres better options

[prime marten]

btw what does reinforcement rate do actually?

i have 2400 hours and ive never looked into what the meta is

[inner sparrow]

make your unit that wait from reserve to join battle actually join the battle

so u wont just get deorged and memed out of the tile

[prime marten]

reserve being divisions on the same tile that are not in battle or parts of the currently in battle divisions?

[inner sparrow]

divisions on the same tile but not in battle

[prime marten]

alriight so there IS a reason to not attack with all units at once

[inner sparrow]

they won’t all join battle anyways

just attack with ur best division

[bleak plinth]

how do i gain mastery?

[fathom thistle]

Train your troops constantly

[lofty totem]

i saw a video p

[fathom thistle]

Make sure they are at least lvl 2

[lofty totem]

of a guy who annexed france and got all of the french divisions into his army as germany

is there any way for me to do this normally or is it a specific thing only

[analog maple]

Guys are aa useless if a I have green air

[storm badger]

yes

[analog maple]

Thx

[stone dew]

None of my mods actually work when I'm on the new update idk what to do

i reinstalled them but it doesnt do anything

i cleared cache and that stuff to but it doesnt do anythinig

if i change to past 1.16.10 i can play the darkest hour mod but i cant play anything with the new update like mod fire rises or kaiserreich, it doesnt load the mod

Help?

[bleak plinth]

its been a stalemate for like 2 years how do i win this

[stone dew]

you don't

[analog maple]

Guys what the best cas design for early game?

[stone dew]

<@&916727971820240976>

[glacial steeple]

well yeah the mods updated

youd have to get an old version of the mods

[stone dew]

but im not talking about that

i want to play on 1.17 of which the mods are on

and it does not load

the mods do not load it goes to base game

[left glacier]

Have you tried reverifying the game's integrity?

[stone dew]

yes

3 times

[glacial steeple]

do you have the playset selected then

[stone dew]

yes

[rapid urchin]

just wait until soviets get their own DLC after no step back is in base game

[glacial steeple]

are the mods in the playset you have selected

[stone dew]

yes

[glacial steeple]

thats sometimes an issue

double check, or re-verify the files like tails said

which might take a bit

[stone dew]

it takes a while yes, i'll ping you after I do both

[rapid urchin]

soviet focus tree is REALLY showing its age

@inner sparrow before gotterdamerung released was germany and soviet IC output roughly equal?

when barb started

[glacial steeple]

not rlly

[unique steeple]

Go to Documents/Paradox Interactive/Hearts of Iron IV and delete it

[inner sparrow]

idk, don’t think so

[glacial steeple]

usa france and uk are pretty poor rn

[inner sparrow]

uk and usa are NOT poor

[stone dew]

delete the mods folder or delete the Hearts of Iron IV folder

[inner sparrow]

they are only poor if the players are bad

[glacial steeple]

usa mils 💔

[inner sparrow]

uk and usa are in a better state than soviets

[inner sparrow]

not that bad

esp on heavy fighters

their heavy fighter mils are good

[rapid urchin]

id say UK is even better considering they have so much consumer goods buffs that are free tbh british austerity and stab

[glacial steeple]

well yeah its not the worst but its definitely noticeable

and not really exciting gameplay

mostly france is just kinda sad imo

[inner sparrow]

uk is good, 270 mil nation for a major

more than ussr on barb

[stone dew]

@unique steeple do I delete the whole HOI4 folder?

[rapid urchin]

yeah

usa is better ish only because they have bigger eco

they just need to get partial asap

[rapid urchin]

whats the biggest problem holding back the USSR on IC?

[inner sparrow]

they don’t really have bigger eco when barb starts

or that was the case last rb game

usa had less mils than uk aswell

ofc output I cant say bc no one recorded ic graph

[rapid urchin]

okay

[inner sparrow]

not big enough eco

they are reliant on civ boost

germany is building with 13 lines of civs while ussr is building with like 5

[rapid urchin]

wait germany in MP can sometimes builds some civs before going to mils?

or they go mils day one

[inner sparrow]

u also have to remember, uk annexes malaysa and gets like 50-70 civ in trade

[inner sparrow]

depends how free is france and how bad coal gets

if coal gets very bad u don’t build civs

[unique steeple]

Yes

[inner sparrow]

if mod gives u enough coal and france is free u can build civs till like goebble focus around there

[stone dew]

I love you im gonna find where you live and give you a fat kiss with a turtle

[rapid urchin]

okay

[rapid urchin]

also they have only like 65% consumer goods factor

which is kinda insane considering how old their tree is

[inner sparrow]

yeah

[rapid urchin]

and thats early on on top of that

[unique steeple]

Take it worked?

[stone dew]

yes it did lol, now you get 2 turtles, one used but dont ask what used for :DDD

[rapid urchin]

so soviets just dont have enough civs to make their eco big enough?

is what im hearing

[unique steeple]

No problem. That usually fixes it

[inner sparrow]

yeah, cap and output isn’t problem, their mils are insanely good

they just don’t have enough to deal with axis ic

mainly ger ic

ger has similar mils output and like 150-200 more

[rapid urchin]

okay

on a similar note

how do you rate japan's IC

i think its kinda balanced ish

[inner sparrow]

idk didn’t check japan since update and no one recorded ic graph but it seems good

from what I saw it seems strong

[rapid urchin]

okay

[rapid urchin]

i think problem though with japan is that they dont have enough cap to become viable ish

they do have a ton of production output modifiers

which is great

[inner sparrow]

I mean they probably get enough cap from mios

[rapid urchin]

well everyone gets cap from MIO's

[inner sparrow]

I really can’t say, didn’t take a single look at their focus so far

[inner sparrow]

not everyone has equal mios

esp production mios

[rapid urchin]

true

all that japan has for production efficicany cap gain is just a 5% cap from sumimoto

resorce security is honestly way far off japan wont ever get it

[inner sparrow]

I recommend asking ppl from rb about ic state of japan

[rapid urchin]

excluding mio's

[inner sparrow]

theres prob enough who tested it

[rapid urchin]

gotya

[north quail]

why are 24 of my factories going to consumer goods bruh

[rapid urchin]

hover over it and itll break it down for you

[analog maple]

Anyone got a good early cas design?

[frosty lava]

Are light tanks viable for Germany in singleplayer?

Or light SPGs?

[neat widget]

how early

[neat widget]

Probably

[analog maple]

1937

[analog maple]

Medium better

[frosty lava]

ripperoni.

[analog maple]

What

[frosty lava]

Means disappointment.

[honest lintel]

what is meta medium tank and infantry and airplane design

[reef star]

personally I use heavy SPGs

but that's just me

medium is enough

[neat widget]

Yeah

Heavy SPGs will basically last you until the end of the game

Medium SPGs could, but you might suffer breakthrough wise if you want the piercing and damage output of heavy SPGs

[glacial steeple]

medium break is literally higher?

[reef star]

it's good to include 1 TD to get piercing

[neat widget]

wait how

[glacial steeple]

turret?

[neat widget]

also i'm implying using heavy howitzer by late-game

[neat widget]

Heavy SPGs can use medium turret too, so heavy SPG break is still higher

[north quail]

where can i see my air superiority %

[glacial steeple]

click on the airzone

[north quail]

huh

oh

ty

i cant paratroop even though i have 100

[reef star]

do you have transport planes assigned

[north quail]

i have to assign them?

[reef star]

yes

[north quail]

bruh thats not what the tut said

ok ty

[reef star]

I think you can just assign them to the army

[north quail]

ya i did

[reef star]

does it work now

[north quail]

no

[golden thorn]

U got air superiority?

[north quail]

100%

[glacial steeple]

no

just need them to be on the airfield

[golden thorn]

its 50 planes per division btw

[north quail]

per unit?

[golden thorn]

yea

[glacial steeple]

45*

[north quail]

bruh wtf

[glacial steeple]

but 50 for first

[golden thorn]

sorry casey

[north quail]

alr i see now th

thx

[glacial steeple]

size of div doesnt matter

its a set number of planes

[north quail]

can i still do it when i assign

[glacial steeple]

just assign 1 unit at a time

and itll launch them 1 at a time

assuming youre playing germany starting with 80 transport planes

which is enough for 1 division

it just means a unit has to launch before the next one can

it has no cooldown so will only take a bit longer

not a lot tho

[north quail]

where can i see like the reason for it not paratrooping

cuz its still not working

i got like 500 transports

[rustic acorn]

do you have green air?

[glacial steeple]

show the screen?

the planes have to explicitly not be on orders actually

[glacial steeple]

and your unit template has to be eligible for paradropping

[north quail]

its eligible

[glacial steeple]

do you have 70% over england

[glacial steeple]

your planes are on the supply mission

take them off of it

[north quail]

which planes

[glacial steeple]

transport

then click on a paratrooper

[north quail]

i dont think i have any deployed

[glacial steeple]

left click on an airfield with planes that are not on mission (transports)

right click destination

[north quail]

they are in reserves

[glacial steeple]

well you need to deploy them anyway

but you have some deployed

[north quail]

ok ill deploy

[glacial steeple]

and then you need to wait for the wing to be ready

which will take a few in game days/weeks

and then you should be able to left click airfield right click destination enter

[glacial steeple]

you have too many planes in the airfield

[north quail]

oh

done

ITS WORKING

TY

is 4 lvl 3 paratroopers enough to take out 2 infantry

ok the sovs declared on me

[inner apex]

just wondering, no corvettes and frigates anytime soon?

and gun boats maybe

[nocturne cloak]

@north quail Arty~

[graceful dragon]

can anybody tell me what this ship module is and where i research it

[glacial steeple]

sonar and you shouldnt research it because its bad

just like real life, naval bombers counter subs

destroyers are very bad at the same mission but people think theyre the only counter

really what will happen is you wasting a bunch of dockyard output and fuel when instead you could have a couple mils on naval bombers + fighters to detect

and of course block off any sea zones you dont want to be raided in

[graceful dragon]

i was just gonna put it on a spotting cruiser but i dont need them?

[glacial steeple]

no because sonar only really tries to detect subs

[graceful dragon]

alright ty

[nocturne cloak]

@north quail are you good yet

[gusty briar]

Are their any mods that change the request garrison support to make it like the old system before NCNS?

I really dont undertaking what the point of this change was

[tepid umbra]

You can just put a minimum requirement for the garrison

[gusty briar]

Yeah it sucks for communist countries though since Liberated workers is usually pretty good

[eager juniper]

guys, im terrible invading the soviet union as germany, please help :(.

[wild rune]

whats the main problem

[eager juniper]

EVERYTHING :(.

[wild rune]

is your production bad?

[eager juniper]

idk

[wild rune]

is pushing bad?

can you not push the soviets?

[eager juniper]

so much red in battles

[eager juniper]

i cannot

[wild rune]

show what your main army template looks like

[eager juniper]

wait a min

ill get back to the save when i capitulated france

[eager juniper]

Templates when i capitulated france

[wild rune]

the tank one is terrible

[eager juniper]

:(.

[wild rune]

I suggest adding more to it til it hits 36w

[eager juniper]

?

width?

[wild rune]

9 motorized and 9 tanks

[wild rune]

yes

or 8 motorized and 10 tanks

[eager juniper]

ok, wait

medium tanks? or light tanks?

[wild rune]

mediums ideally depends on what you have stockpiled

I also recommend making the switch from motorized to mechanized as fast as possible

your pure motorized division is essentially worthless except for maybe holding off DDay

as motorized stats are bad

[wild rune]

yeah

that looks better

[eager juniper]

ok, ill save and put more factories to medium tanks

[wild rune]

I also recommend switching motorized recon for armored recon

[wild rune]

what other support companies do you have available

[eager juniper]

im just producing 5 medium tanks per day

[stiff moth]

If you have them add mechanised engineers and flame mediums

[wild rune]

are you making planes?

[wild rune]

he doesn't

[eager juniper]

flame mediums? what's that?

[wild rune]

the flame tank is a special project

[stiff moth]

Medium tank support unit

[eager juniper]

i love planes, specially fighters

[wild rune]

ok

[eager juniper]

i am researching jet engines

[wild rune]

peak

[stiff moth]

Are you going to build super sonic jets?

[glacial steeple]

trying a run where i import weapons instead of making them rn

300 medium tanks in 1941 🥀

[wild rune]

what is ur land warfare facility doing

[neat widget]

why is the soft attack so low

[wild rune]

this sounds like pain

[neat widget]

what is your medium tank design

[neat widget]

yeah there aren't enough weapons to import in the entire world

[eager juniper]

nothing :(.

[glacial steeple]

im only doing it with tanks and air but look at my airforce

[wild rune]

at least import then convert

[neat widget]

and you will struggle to import navy

[wild rune]

research flame tanks with it

[eager juniper]

oh, i researched

[wild rune]

ok

then go to ur medium tank chassis

[glacial steeple]

tanks

[wild rune]

and equip a flamethrower on it

(assuming NSB)

[glacial steeple]

ill probably have a full strenght tank div by 1945

[wild rune]

put as much breakthrough on it

[eager juniper]

how?

[stiff moth]

Don’t edit your actual tank, make a duplicate

Change it to flame tank

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt have flame role

and MAN

:(

[stiff moth]

Put a flame thrower in it

[wild rune]

I'm blind 😭

"the blind leading the blind"

[wild rune]

change your main tank's armament to medium howitzer if u have it unlocked

[eager juniper]

which modules do I use to have a good breakthrough

[wild rune]

stabilizer

+radio

@glacial steeple i forgot

help

[eager juniper]

i dont have this module

[wild rune]

show modules

[wild rune]

use extra ammunition storage

[stiff moth]

You can get a module that reduces the cost of tanks quite a bit from maintenance company II

[wild rune]

the -10% reliability won't hurt your economy that bad

[glacial steeple]

the AI is actually the worst

omg

[wild rune]

more armor ticks + the suspension that gives 4.0 breakthrough

and make it flametank

[glacial steeple]

i tried buying 45 planes from estonia earlier and they cancelled after giving 9

[neat widget]

Yeah

[glacial steeple]

and now the US cancelled 2 orders

[wild rune]

in the dropdown menu

[glacial steeple]

1 of 90 planes and 1 of 30

while giving NONE

[wild rune]

bro

the market is bad

[eager juniper]

?

[glacial steeple]

ill get an airforce going any day now

and youll be so jealous

[wild rune]

next to where it says "Medium Tank"

[wild rune]

Meanwhile Focke-Wulf Germany with Supersonic Airplanes

[eager juniper]

vlw

[eager juniper]

thanks

[glacial steeple]

i have the d 500 and i-15

[wild rune]

thanks for example photo casey

[wild rune]

your welcome

[wild rune]

click + on armor more

[timber shell]

with the new doctrines that giga buff spart and cw reduction how viable is dirt cheap spart in infantry divisions?

[wild rune]

and do the suspension with 4.0 breakthrough

this tank doesn't really matter in how expensive it is

[timber shell]

(don't have howitzers yet but obviously will go howitzers when that's unlocked)

[wild rune]

light tank

stack piercing

instead

[eager juniper]

il reestart the campaing with a save in 1936, im so lost at this point

[timber shell]

huh what makes light tanks good now

[wild rune]

armored recon

[wild rune]

(this is all that light tanks are used for)

[timber shell]

oh fair ok

[stiff moth]

What is going wrong atm?

[eager juniper]

tank designs

[timber shell]

can you put multiple squeeze bore things on

how else do you stack piercing

[wild rune]

no

[wild rune]

I mean like the main armament with like 68 piercing

[timber shell]

oh the light high velocity gun

[wild rune]

• also squeeze bore

then second priority is maxxing out armor as much as possible

[glacial steeple]

this game is BAD

[wild rune]

FDR dislikes germany

more like FDR dislikes all communist countries

[eager juniper]

do i build civs or military factories in the start of the game as germany?

[wild rune]

depends on economic branch

if going FYP then mils

if going PEG then civs

[eager juniper]

fyp? peg?

[wild rune]

Four Year Plan

Prioritize Economic Growth

[eager juniper]

four year plan

[stiff moth]

Build like 20 civs then the rest can be mils

You get enough from the focuses

[wild rune]

as Four Year Plan immediately build millitary factories

and rush to anschluss

[eager juniper]

how can i rush to anschluss?

[stiff moth]

Spam out cavalry

[wild rune]

inf now

but yeah

[eager juniper]

ok

[wild rune]

a bunch of 2w inf

[eager juniper]

?

[wild rune]

then if you want, you can convert them to your main army later

[stiff moth]

Also take any pop up that gives you more pressure towards Austria

It reduces the total army size needed for Anschluss

[eager juniper]

ok

wait a min

[glacial steeple]

you dont need that many

[wild rune]

I generally do 90 2w inf divisions

to then convert to make a field marshal

[stiff moth]

You can benefit from them early when you don’t have anything good to produce

[glacial steeple]

?? theres always good things to produce

like tank chassis;

[stiff moth]

Help with synth spam as well

[wild rune]

not real

just steal oil from romania

[neat widget]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1ppeb88/noticed_that_licensed_ship_designs_dont_have_a/

[stiff moth]

Oil doesn’t give you rubber

[neat widget]

pretty much

[wild rune]

rubber is not needed fr

[versed rose]

20 civs as Germany wtf

Civgreed brainrot

I love producing less war material as the primary aggressor in a war game

[wild rune]

true

[eager juniper]

i can just train 43 divisions o cavalry

is this ammount ok to rush anschluss?

[wild rune]

just keep putting more on guns til you can get around 90 divisions

[stiff moth]

More civs = more production capacity to a point

[wild rune]

but you also get civs from anschlussing austria

and all the other nations u conquer

[versed rose]

Civs take 4 years to pay off, you go to war in 3 years

Do the math

[stiff moth]

Do you end the war in one year?

[versed rose]

Against ai? Yes

[wild rune]

mils also give more guns by that point

[versed rose]

Against players? You'll die to France if you civgreed

[stiff moth]

So then they pay off in 4 years

3 years of build up and 1 year of war, perfectly timed

[wild rune]

production efficiency 🥀

[versed rose]

Justifying greed by saying they pay off after the war is over is so cope

[stiff moth]

Thinking that 20 factories is the be all and end all of a pve run is very strange

[wild rune]

we are not saying it is so

[versed rose]

Encouraging bad habits is how we get disaster saves

[stiff moth]

You aren’t cheese

[wild rune]

but like

mils are far more important at this time for germany

just in order to get anschluss and all the things they need to get the war going

[stiff moth]

You can still hit Anschluss before the historical date

[wild rune]

but is it optimal

[stiff moth]

No but it gives you a stronger industry if you are fighting a longer war

Which is more likely in early attempts

[versed rose]

In early attempts people are more likely to die from having a tiny army because they civgreeded like apes

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt tho

[eager juniper]

ok, im with the 90 cavalry divisions, its october 1936, is this time ok?

[wild rune]

yes

see if you can do the focus

[eager juniper]

i can!

[wild rune]

peak

anschluss then onto either doing your reichsleter focus + speer or going further down eco

[eager juniper]

when the game start, i always rush for todt

[wild rune]

todt works

[wild rune]

speer is better for his flat +5% construction boost tho

[eager juniper]

now i have speer and todt

• organization todt

[wild rune]

yeah

I used to do what you are doing but then I met foxsy and bro yapped

and I automatically believed him

[eager juniper]

?

[wild rune]

due to his senority status

I now immediately do speer as mils only germany

[eager juniper]

ok

what do i do now?

[wild rune]

do some military and airforce focuses

don't forget to convert your cav to actual divisions

then make some tanks

[eager juniper]

when should i build research facilities?

[wild rune]

whenever

idk

its neither here nor there

ideally maybe late 1937 for an airplane research one

early 38

[eager juniper]

ok

[wild rune]

in order to get breakthrough points for the jet engine

[eager juniper]

is flamethrowers tanks good?

[wild rune]

yes

[eager juniper]

why?

[wild rune]

you dont have to make a lot of them either

[wild rune]

terrain bonuses

• also gives breakthrough

[eager juniper]

when im designing a tank, should i always focus on breakthrough?

[wild rune]

no

[eager juniper]

ok

[wild rune]

only with flame tanks should you focus on that

there should be tank designs in the pins of this channel

[eager juniper]

i just need for barbarossa :(.

should i use tank destroyers for barbarossa?

[wild rune]

no

[stiff moth]

No since they have very bad breakthrough

[wild rune]

replace those with medium tanks with howitzers

as soft attack is the most important thing when dealing with AI divisions

[eager juniper]

should i always use howitzers in tank designs?

[wild rune]

except light tanks

[eager juniper]

ok

[wild rune]

and maybe if you are doing an armor meme that could be your piercing meme as well

[eager juniper]

armor meme? whats that?

[wild rune]

its where you get a heavy tank and make it unpiercable

and put one of those in your tank division

and it artificially increases your armor value

(this is the principle behind space marines)

[eager juniper]

space marines?

[wild rune]

infantry with such a high armor value that they cant be pierced by infantry

[eager juniper]

ok

[wild rune]

if its high enough it won't get pierced by even a tank division

[eager juniper]

im going to sleep, bye, thanks for the help :D.

[wild rune]

gn

[brisk trail]

why achiement graveyard of empire can not trigger

[opaque garden]

Ironman mode is on right?

right?

[brisk trail]

yes

[valid valve]

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[fickle girder]

need some help with my quest to conquer arab paninsula as saudi

got my ass kicked by yemen after a 12hour run..

[dark ginkgo]

new player here (~110h) and fairly new to germany

Are random ass guides a good way to learn the game's mechanichs? (Guides like 'how to conquer GB as Germany in 1936")

[dark ginkgo]

did you play on at least the normal difficulty or higher?

[inner sparrow]

not really

if u only look at some mechanics maybe but most yt guides are outdated and also teach a lot of wrong things

[dark ginkgo]

i used that GB 1936 guid to get rid of GB pretty early bc they bother me a lot in the lategame bc my navy was bad

[inner mountain]

what would be a good defending div template for finland when i want to hold in 1939

[pliant condor]

pick desperate defense and get the 5% recruitable population

template doest matter just grab gun2 using your research bonus

[inner mountain]

so il just use the 12 with defoult ?

[pliant condor]

that's fine

obviously add support artillery

and use your special support company

[wild stone]

can i ask u?

[pliant condor]

yeah?

[fickle girder]

help

[dark ginkgo]

which one is the usual pick for germany?

[inner mountain]

should i get the infantry expert or artillery genious as finland?

[sleek remnant]

Artillery genius is a scam unless you’re doing like artillery only

[inner mountain]

ok

[pliant condor]

mobile recon and assualt

and make spg

[dark ginkgo]

thankies

[quartz quiver]

how to not suck?

[charred fable]

Topazand, oh wise one! CAS... flying artillery or pinpoint strikes?

[nocturne cloak]

@pliant condor please calm down

[languid trout]

are sp artys better than tanks now?

[sinful vessel]

how should be a paratrooper division ?

[scenic nacelle]

Just play the game more

Learn the game more

There isn’t a easy way of ur thinking of that

[scenic nacelle]

Since u can get a lot more soft attack with the SPG’s

[sinful vessel]

What i'm do (but i'm still bad) is starting a game, failing, trying to understand, restarting and doing differently, re-failing, etc. Then my games are longer and longer. And i've started in the lowest difficulty possible, playing as Germany or Italy.

[scenic nacelle]

Yeah ig

[languid trout]

is it because spgs are able to get more buffs than tanks can get

[plush latch]

as historical germany, are you still able to take the vichy fleet post gtd (dont have the dlc itself)? tried declaring on them but they just joined the allies

[languid trout]

also what about breakthrough

[scenic nacelle]

I guess so

[scenic nacelle]

Ehhh

[languid trout]

dam

[scenic nacelle]

I usually forget about it

And my games turn out fine

[plush latch]

go watch some old bittersteel vids, he used to be pretty damn good at the game

[languid trout]

wdym used to

how does one downgrade in hoi4

[plush latch]

i dont watch him anymore lmao

he started making some weirder content and i didnt enjoy it, tend to just watch bokoen/dankus these days if i want hoi content

[sinful vessel]

But watch after failing. Just to try to understand. Trying to "redo" things in a video won't learn you many thing.

[plush latch]

bitter tends to explain why he does everything, gives you a decent idea

[plush latch]

^

[inner sparrow]

no

bc they are 2w now instead of 3 and get more base soft

also spgs are tanks??

its just the same medium howy tank before update but u just change the role of the tank to an arty tank

still a tank

[inner sparrow]

hes bad

and was always bad

it works for ai but hes not good at the game

and the stuff he does isn’t good aswell

[plush latch]

he was never meta, but was always one of the top players for sp content

theres very little competition for that position lmao

[inner sparrow]

he wasn’t a top player for sp just the only big one who makes content for sp

[languid trout]

they are a tank role

[inner sparrow]

theres no real content in sp anyways

[inner sparrow]

they count as tanks in the game

and they are tanks

[languid trout]

i differentiate both

[inner sparrow]

still the same just different tank role

[sinful vessel]

For me, he goes too fast on the explanation. Though its content helps me to understand some things

[inner sparrow]

flame tank is also a tank

[languid trout]

ik

[plush latch]

his saved game clutches were pretty fun, kinda it tho

[languid trout]

its to make things easier

[plush latch]

^ 😭

[ornate jackal]

how do i bring up that naval HQ screen where i can assign dudes to the base? (not task force or fleet admirals themselves, the dude who sits at the base

[plush latch]

is this some new dlc thing?

[ornate jackal]

i think i mkultraed myself

[dark ginkgo]

quick question

after capitulating a country, can I somehow annex the navy, equipment and/or manpower from that country?

[hollow linden]

I assume you dont have by blood alone?

[dark ginkgo]

bc uh well...

[dark ginkgo]

nopes

[dark ginkgo]

and this

[plush latch]

go up on conscription law

please

[hollow linden]

If you get a peacedeal with that country you can puppet it, then take a division template from them, edit and train it, and depending on their autonomy level, your puppet contributes manpower to that template

[hollow linden]

But ye also go up why are you still on limited

The debuff is not that bad

[dark ginkgo]

not in war, but i'll do it when i have the PP

[hollow linden]

At least not as bad as lacking manpower

[plush latch]

10% train time is nothing

[hollow linden]

Why do you have 1 Million men in garrisons????

[dark ginkgo]

uhhh...

[hollow linden]

Get off military governor

And make a 2w cav

[dark ginkgo]

i basically have the whole allies as of 37

so all of britain, Canada, afrika, asia, india-GB

and annex it instead of puppet

bc i don't know how to use puppets xD

[hollow linden]

Shouldve gone up during war

[hollow linden]

Maybe also make guns

That way your resistance wont keep going up

Put like all your mils on guns if you have to

Can never have too few

[dark ginkgo]

all of them are xD

[hollow linden]

What

are u saying u took all the allies and you only have 50 mils?????

Excuse me

What

Delete your army

Wait until you have manpower again

[dark ginkgo]

a bit more than 50

60 rn in 38

[hollow linden]

Then go up to extensive and retrain it

[hollow linden]

😭

What

ur supposed to have like 120

U took fking britain

What have u been doing

building civs?

[dark ginkgo]

i... declared war in 1936 and finished in mid 37 xD

i followed a guid to kill them quickly bc they very annoy me in normal plays (new player here)

debuffed bc of war of conquest

[plush latch]

youre playing as germany

just release a bunch as reichkommisariats

[dark ginkgo]

yeps

[plush latch]

theyll handle themselves

its the big wall of decisions

[dark ginkgo]

truuueeeee

i should go for them asap

[hollow linden]

DO NOT DO THAT

THEY WILL NOT HANDLE RESISTANCE

The rks fking suck

please never release them

[plush latch]

ive never had issues lmao

[hollow linden]

They still suck

you're better off just not making them

[plush latch]

well, theyre mainly meant for at war

[hollow linden]

you keep more factories and manpower

[hollow linden]

So?

They still suck

[plush latch]

if youre not at war with allies anymore just make normal puppets

[hollow linden]

😭

What

Just make collab and annex

heck annexing is better outright

puppeting is dumb microing thats too annoying to be worth

Just annex and be done

[plush latch]

he has no manpower

[hollow linden]

Thats due to him not going up to extensive and not having guns

not not having made puppets

and not having collabs

[plush latch]

you dont need to be at war, youre playing fasc germany lol

[inner sparrow]

dont make reichskommisariat

just collab and annex

[hollow linden]

My saviour 😭

[dark ginkgo]

how?

[inner sparrow]

u have harsh quota as facist country, straight up spawns in factories that don’t even exist

[inner sparrow]

spy agency

get an intel of 50% in a country and then make a collaboration goverment

2 is enough

[dark ginkgo]

but this can only be done bevor the war, right?

[inner sparrow]

yes do it before the war

if u annex a country without collab just but it on civilian and then swap to harsh in 39ish

[dark ginkgo]

well... i'm already after the war

[inner sparrow]

use a division with only horses as garrison

[dark ginkgo]

already did

[plush latch]

is case anton still available post gotterdammerung?

[dark ginkgo]

i... don't have götterdämmerung ^^"

[plush latch]

its 1938 pre czechs lmao

[plush latch]

i'm not trying to give advice i'm asking for it 😭

[dark ginkgo]

pls don't kill me, but i don't even have anschluss bc of equipment ^^"

[dark ginkgo]

oh, sorry >//<

[plush latch]

why would you do brits lmao

[dark ginkgo]

bc when I try to land in them in 1941, they just have 40 infantry divisions i cannot kill somehow

[viral mortar]

is the new dlc worth it?

[plush latch]

do you play japan?

[cold bloom]

Tbf the historical path is free and is pretty good

[viral mortar]

only if i need achivments

thats mainly for all my asian runs

[dark ginkgo]

I HAVE MANPOWER :D

and i should not do the RKS, right?

[fickle girder]

what country

[dark ginkgo]

germany

[fickle girder]

hmm did you get overrun by the ussr or something

that's though

[dark ginkgo]

i annex GB and all of it's puppets

in retro, i should've make them puppets instead of annex

[fickle girder]

10/10 play

[dark ginkgo]

i don't know why, but I have 880k manpower in garnisons, with only one hors div xD

[sinful vessel]

Noooooo ! I 've failed again ionvading UK. So rustrating ! Any advice (as Germany) for an early way to make it easier ? I think i fail with the industry. Not enough spg and truck the first time, not enough plane second and third time, and always a hard fight for the navy.

[pastel tiger]

Good planes + paratroops

[sinful vessel]

It's 1 horse garnisons, but multiplicated by the amount you need in each country.

[hollow linden]

Yea don't create them

[dark ginkgo]

well... i could, but I shouldn't 'couse I really struggle with the consequences rn

the only thing i know from my last (badly gone wrong playthrough) is, a lot, a shit lot of planes, and not throught the english chanal, but the two sea's above

[dark ginkgo]

why not tho? Shoudln't they help me reach autarcy?

[sinful vessel]

Yes, i've not try this now. Not enough "historical" for me, but i will probably, as failing again and again is so frustrating. How many paratrooper can i drop at the same time ?

[pastel tiger]

Historical is to lose the war and the UK never gets invaded

[sinful vessel]

Lol you're right. I meant just some dropped division being able to take the UK may be bit too much fantasy. But i need to try it just once. And with this I won't need to focus a lot on the navy.

[pastel tiger]

But you almost need to do that cause BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES.

[pliant condor]

pinpoint

[pliant condor]

they had always been better

[hollow linden]

Uh, how? Exactly?

Like do they give extra resources?

U can just harsh quota

Which you should be doing anyhow

[dark ginkgo]

either that or bc they give me civs that I can use regardless of EoC, don't they?

[dark ginkgo]

huh?

[hollow linden]

Garrison law

[dark ginkgo]

ah

[hollow linden]

Uh no they dont

Just reduce eco of conquest spirit

Like u can take gold no

[dark ginkgo]

i can, but i already did the gold from brits

[hollow linden]

Take more capitals

[dark ginkgo]

and all of the price controlls

[hollow linden]

U basically need to be at war constantly to reduce the spirit

Peace is bad

[dark ginkgo]

i see

[dark ginkgo]

but what are they usefull for then?

[hollow linden]

Nothing.

Hence I said, don't do them

[dark ginkgo]

oh well

[narrow elk]

what's the point of adding more states to my war goal?

juist seems like extra unneccesary pp and time waste

[sinful vessel]

And do you think i can take (as Germany) UK alone, without any ally ?

[hollow linden]

None

[narrow elk]

oh damn okay

thanks

[hollow linden]

Well I guess if you justify for more states they become cheaper to annex in the peacedeal

But ideally you have the most war score so that doesn't really matter

[narrow elk]

those specific states become cheaper or all?

[hollow linden]

The states you justified for

[narrow elk]

oh okay

thanks

[fickle girder]

any helper willing to help in vc

[restive galleon]

i need average elite templates

[hollow linden]

What does that even mean

You mean you want good templates?

[restive galleon]

yes elite temp not average

[hollow linden]

Here's a couple

[restive galleon]

just for break or attack

[hollow linden]

See below

[restive galleon]

thx so inf with arty line is uselss?

[hollow linden]

Yep

[restive galleon]

and mech with mid tanks?

[hollow linden]

Not worth

[hollow linden]

Wdym mid 💀

Don't call medium tanks mid tanks bruh

[restive galleon]

medium tanks

[hollow linden]

Ye but if you want it cheap you can replace the mech with rangers

[restive galleon]

a spec forces?

[hollow linden]

Ye

[restive galleon]

i mean i see that mech with sp is better than mech with tanks

[hollow linden]

Ye spgs are better than Normal tanks

[restive galleon]

thx

[fossil dragon]

👋