ask-for-help-here

[rapid urchin]

in my opinion japan NEVER EVER does tanks

[tepid umbra]

Or 20 i mean

[tepid umbra]

Dumb opinion

Everyone should do tanks

[rapid urchin]

dude

japan dosent do tanks because it dosent have enough IC

[tepid umbra]

You may not need tanks for china war but tanks are still vital

[tepid umbra]

It can get enough IC by like 39 to 40

[wild rune]

Japan does tanks but not til they are about to start war with america

As siberia is logistics hell

[rapid urchin]

yeah

[wild rune]

And invading india is also bad logistically

[tepid umbra]

Unless you time the war right then soviets are as done for as you

[wild rune]

Inf or cav divisions would be better

[pliant condor]

ah how do they still own beijing

[wild rune]

As they don't require fuel

[glacial steeple]

yup

you can absolutely do it in time

[tepid umbra]

Just use inf

[rapid urchin]

i pulled out according to your strat and got total mob

but couldnt get any encirclments

when warlord one capped

[pliant condor]

ok click beijing back after you finish then😭

[glacial steeple]

you can just cap all warlords

[pliant condor]

do you wanna watch me play

[wild rune]

Yeah

[glacial steeple]

just means you have to integ puppet later

its fine

[rapid urchin]

yeah for sure

[pliant condor]

if you do the funny annex thingy you don't need to pull back

[rapid urchin]

wait how?

[pliant condor]

explain

[rapid urchin]

because in order for me to get total mob i need to let them have beijing

[tepid umbra]

Wait when are you declaring

[glacial steeple]

well since you have collabs on nationalist china (the puppet, which forms from having compliance on all of their PREVIOUS owned states only by event, if you wait, you cant spawn them)

[rapid urchin]

feb 37

[glacial steeple]

and you annex them but you STILL have collabs on them

[tepid umbra]

When does spanish civil war start i forgot

[rapid urchin]

mid 36 ircc

[tepid umbra]

Cuz an attache lets you share xp

[pliant condor]

wait right total mob

huh

[glacial steeple]

so you get compliance on all territory they now own

[pliant condor]

ok nvm you still need to pull back or do the focus

[glacial steeple]

which is everything since the event gives them all land

[rapid urchin]

which focus?

national defence state?

[pliant condor]

national defense state

but that comes too late

[rapid urchin]

so yeah

also

[pliant condor]

join the vc

[glacial steeple]

hope this explains it well enough

its definitely easier and more noob-proof you just have to spend 300 pp on it

which kinda sucks but youll live

[rapid urchin]

joined

i can live steam my stuff

if that would help ig

[pliant condor]

do you have an earlier save

[rapid urchin]

i have a save right before i declare on china

[broken compass]

What would be a good marine template for a sealion?

[tepid umbra]

What year is it

[pliant condor]

oh that would work

[rapid urchin]

yeah

[pliant condor]

yeah

[rapid urchin]

ill dm it

[broken compass]

'44

[tepid umbra]

Have you built up a really good navy

If not then just use paradrops

[broken compass]

yRE

oop

Yea kinda

just been stealing navies

[tepid umbra]

Of whom

[broken compass]

All of eastern europe

[tepid umbra]

Uhh

You might be fine

Have you built a good airforce

[broken compass]

nah ive totally ignored it,,

its fine ive been building loads of light cruisers

[tepid umbra]

Oh you're prolly fine

A good division is like an 18-20 width marine and maybe some amtracs with it

No more than 36 width

[broken compass]

what stats should i aim for with an amtrack?

design wise

[tepid umbra]

Wait are amtracs the ones you get in the motorized branch

[broken compass]

oh yea no they are

i get amtracks and amphibs mixxed up

[neat widget]

No?

[tepid umbra]

They're cheap

I think

I dont invade that late usually idk

[neat widget]

Just use a 35 width template

[tepid umbra]

But special force cap

[neat widget]

Who cares

And even if we do care

[tepid umbra]

The fact that i can only build like 3 35 widths

[tepid umbra]

I never thought of that

[neat widget]

we don't care because we can exploit it away

[glacial steeple]

its not that bad

[wild rune]

Pioneers goes crazy

[glacial steeple]

unless you literally have no army

[neat widget]

Yeah

[neat widget]

Absolutely

35% naval invasion penalty negated

And fun fact: If you unlock all of the transport techs, your invasion penalty drops by 17.58%

And yeah that's the exact number

And then you add up to 50% for mines

But without mines 35% -> .8242 * (50 - 35) = 12.36% total penalty

[broken compass]

whats good late game cas design?

[tight laurel]

like this

[glacial steeple]

what the heck

[tight laurel]

rocket rail and anti tank

engine like jet if you have

[broken compass]

what size is that?

[tight laurel]

small

[glacial steeple]

rocket rails suck tho

[tight laurel]

how?

[neat widget]

modded rocket rails?

[glacial steeple]

it gives very little CAS

[neat widget]

also honestly that's mid-game

[glacial steeple]

ill make a lategame cas design give me a minute to load the game

probably should purge saves tbh

[broken compass]

what about with a medium air frame?

[tepid umbra]

Not Cas, no?

[tight laurel]

Ground support + logistics bomb

[glacial steeple]

i mean it can do a lot of ground damage

its very expensive is all

[stiff moth]

Casey

What is the cheapest SHBB that’s still viable?

[tight laurel]

that design i can spam like 5-10k in 1941 as soviet

[glacial steeple]

why do you want to budget on it...

just spend some time building it

[stiff moth]

I want to get 1 SHBB and 4 carriers in the med by mid to late 40 as Italy

[neat widget]

1 SHBB takes like 2-3 years tbh

[glacial steeple]

then just make some extra dockyards

[neat widget]

Okay 3-5 I think since 2-3 is with full industrial tech

[stiff moth]

The dockyards are highly restricted by resources as Italy atm

[neat widget]

Probably something like this

[glacial steeple]

41 cas

[neat widget]

If you're confident in air supremacy you can get this

[neat widget]

supersonic aircraft cas?

in 41

[stiff moth]

Is there any reason to ever pick heavy bombs?

[tight laurel]

Basic?

[glacial steeple]

he said late game

[neat widget]

Improved

[glacial steeple]

making advanced 1 min

[tight laurel]

You dont need ground attack?

[neat widget]

If you hover over it you will find that this has 22 ground attack + MIO bonuses

[nimble otter]

what is the best template for the rangers ?

[neat widget]

Alternate design that has 1 less ground attack but is considerably cheaper

[tight laurel]

ok i will try new design

[neat widget]

Probably an 18/0 with a typical bunch of support companies

[nimble otter]

alright

thank you

[broken compass]

is my infantry template ok

[neat widget]

which nation and path is this?

In any case I believe you should do 21/0 with your infantry

And then reference the support companies in the pic with rangers

Since it's basically the same idea

[broken compass]

democratic germany, infantry path

[pliant condor]

use flame tank

also line artillery in 1945 is crazy

[neat widget]

Like as compared to infantry, line artillery is better late game, but you also basically have to also attach VT fuses to them (special project)

[pliant condor]

is this some kind of peaceful run

[broken compass]

no

[pliant condor]

100 division in 1945

[broken compass]

i just see everyone use them

[pliant condor]

they won't help you, if anything

try get useful stuff

[pliant condor]

like^

[broken compass]

what size?

[neat widget]

And this effect is marginal at best

[pliant condor]

flame tank?

medium

[neat widget]

Like artillery soft attack / infantry soft attack increases from 3.4 in 1939 to 3.67 in 1945, it's not enough to justify it

[broken compass]

im guessing for a design just maximise soft attack?

for flamer

[pliant condor]

maximize breakthrough

[broken compass]

ah

[nocturne cloak]

@pliant condor how did you get that many mils

[pliant condor]

you can basically double the breakthrough on your div with a correct flame tank design

[pliant condor]

by building them

the question you need to ask is how you got so few mils

[nocturne cloak]

ts aint tuff

[broken compass]

should i use moderns if i have them?

[pliant condor]

there are a few funny things like disbanding allies but it's a small difference

[pliant condor]

never

worse than medium/heavy

[versed rose]

moderns are a downgrade

because paradox logic

[vital geode]

New plane heavier and more expensive

[versed rose]

inga dunga cant put small cannon turret on a modern tank, no one would use that anyway right

[nocturne cloak]

well ts aint allowed in mp

and it cheesing

[vital geode]

Oh we are talking about tanks

[broken compass]

damn!

[pliant condor]

10%, not much

[nocturne cloak]

along w the other cheese strats you did

it is

[pliant condor]

if you want me to take a guess for you, did you i) go partial mob at spainish civil war? ii) build in the highest infra states first? iii) clicked imperial conference?

[pliant condor]

so true

i did so much cheese that i got 90 mils a year early than you did

[neat widget]

I mean... autocannon turret on tank go brrrt

[versed rose]

bro the only cheesy thing would be deleting faction, and the 10% difference is very minor

[nocturne cloak]

66k messages sent in ts dc btw

[versed rose]

annexing puppets is cheese now i guess

[nocturne cloak]

maybe its just experience

[pliant condor]

my best guess is that you stayed on civ eco until like anschluss or something

that accounts for the difference

[vital geode]

20mm autocannon?

[neat widget]

Yeah

[nocturne cloak]

no partial mob at start of spanish

[neat widget]

MBT-70

[vital geode]

Is that the T-10 or am I dumb

Oh wow

Wow...

I had that tank in war thunder

[pliant condor]

yeah if you don't send attache and just wait for tension

[vital geode]

And I cant recognize the country of origin

[broken compass]

how's this

[pliant condor]

it would be like 1.5 years late

[neat widget]

Joint project between US and Germany that ultimately failed because they had different visions at the end of the day

[pliant condor]

that could be it

[pliant condor]

perfect

[nocturne cloak]

???

can you read

[pliant condor]

you need to put the role as a flame tank

[vital geode]

Dont worry, we made the XM803 out of it

[pliant condor]

oh you meant partial at spain

[nocturne cloak]

you are so smartr

[pliant condor]

ok let's think again

hmm

when did you build civs to

[vital geode]

Aaand promptly realize that having the driver in the turret spin around as well is not a good idea

[nocturne cloak]

i did 15 civs

[versed rose]

use petrol electic engine

[vital geode]

driver proceeds to die of motion sickness

[neat widget]

Secondary turrets are making a comeback nowadays because drones, the fact that they can be remote controlled now, and perhaps even a bit of urban warfare needing high angle fire

[humble quarry]

guys how do i make IVF, it doesnt apeear nowhere 💔

[neat widget]

IVF?

[versed rose]

intravenous fluids surely

[humble quarry]

oh i mispelled

[glacial steeple]

infantry fighting vehicle? IFV?

[humble quarry]

lol

[humble quarry]

ye

[vital geode]

IFVs are a 1970s thing

And onwards

[humble quarry]

i mean im on Millenium dawn mod

[vital geode]

Oh

[humble quarry]

so

[vital geode]

Do you have dlc

[humble quarry]

idk

[vital geode]

Wdym idk

Do you have dlc like no step back

Particularly no step back

[humble quarry]

lemme check

[vital geode]

Or are you base game

[humble quarry]

i barely read that stuff

[vital geode]

Average PDX gamer

Needs green and red text to make decisions

[humble quarry]

lol

[pliant condor]

that's a bit low

try 20

build till mid 37

[humble quarry]

i suppose its no step back

[neat widget]

ignore the yellow text atn your own risk

[pliant condor]

still that should give you 90 mils by early 39 at least

unless you were building other stuff in between

[vital geode]

Okay, I never played MD.

Let's say you research the Bradley or a BMP

[narrow grail]

Do infantry buffs apply to militia?

[vital geode]

Give it some guns

[vital geode]

Yes

[broken compass]

this feels too big

[nocturne cloak]

i had like +70% mil construction speed and spammed them on good infra

[vital geode]

Maybe give an autocannon and maybe a ATGM launcher

[humble quarry]

thats on what im stuck, i dont see any of that on the research tree

😔

[vital geode]

Are you in mechanized and trucks

If not there, look at armor

Screenshot your research

[neat widget]

Oh yeah you don't have doctrine yet

[versed rose]

that template is assuming you're using large unit tactics for infantry subdoctrine

[humble quarry]

alr

[neat widget]

So make it 19 so that you don't go above 40 width and make yourself suffer in forests

Add 2 infantry later

[broken compass]

uhhh im using gbp

is that the right one

[neat widget]

Wait...

[versed rose]

grand doctrine is irrelevant

unless you're on 1.16

[broken compass]

which is in meta?

[broken compass]

actually

gbp has some quite nice bonuses

[pliant condor]

yeah so do you remember how many mils you have in 39

[nocturne cloak]

105

[humble quarry]

i saw they modified smth on ifv and some people didnt liked it but, i dont even see it on the game 💔

[broken compass]

uhh which armoured doctrine should i use for an infantry build

[vital geode]

Huh, I have no idea either

Unless you have to scroll somewhere

[pliant condor]

?? you said 90

also what date

[nocturne cloak]

you are aware different runs exist

im telling you my most recent one

which was 105

[nocturne cloak]

idk

like march 1939

or mid

idfk

[pliant condor]

well then it's normal

[broken compass]

also are rangers like, the new best special forces or is it still mountaineers

[pliant condor]

you said 90 in jan 1940

[nocturne cloak]

fr?

[pliant condor]

yeah?

[nocturne cloak]

oh yeah

[pliant condor]

yeah in early 39 basically ever mil on air

[nocturne cloak]

i wasted time building refineries

[humble quarry]

welp ty btw 😪

[pliant condor]

like 5 on nav 90 on fighter

[pliant condor]

wtf

ok don't do that lol

[nocturne cloak]

i didnt realise how shit they were

[pliant condor]

you can take rubber from your puppet for free

or if you annexed it

[nocturne cloak]

not rubber...

oil

[pliant condor]

british malaya

[nocturne cloak]

i meant

[pliant condor]

oh

[nocturne cloak]

i built them for oil

not nubber

[pliant condor]

you don't need oil

[nocturne cloak]

RUBBER

[pliant condor]

ok that's also

something you never want to do

refinery basically doesn't give you any fuel

[nocturne cloak]

i found out

[pliant condor]

just buy it if you need them

[nocturne cloak]

so

if 105 is good

why are you tryna say

180 is normal

[pliant condor]

180 is normal in jan 40 as you originally asked, in mp

because you get trade

105 in early 39 is a normal number if you play with ai and need to trade factory away

if remember correctly the original question was how many mils you put on air

answer is basically every mil, before 40

all the way up to 150

[nocturne cloak]

its all good

but @pliant condor

you were also speaking about how many mils you got in sp

how many did you get again

[pliant condor]

i had 90 in jan 39

which is not so far from 105 in early 39 you had

then in jan 40 i had 157

[nocturne cloak]

ok ye so

i dont know how i thought this was impossible

ill do a run rn

and test

[pliant condor]

if you don't trade away stuff it's def doable

also when you have pp you can make raj a integrated puppet

[nocturne cloak]

just get paradox to give inf alimium in mayla

[pliant condor]

give you some of their factory as well

[pliant condor]

yeah alum is the issue

but playing with ai you don't need that high on air

Aluminium

[nocturne cloak]

i know

you will always win

but

i was practicing for a mp game

which i realised

is alot different

[pliant condor]

yeah

you would have like 50 from trqade

totally different

need to account for that

[nocturne cloak]

is watching the UK play on sheeps mod an okay strat

i just wanna see the basics

[pliant condor]

yes

or you mean watching the ai

playing in the mod is better because the ai trades you

[broken compass]

getting a low manpower popup with 2 million mp lmaoo

[pliant condor]

ive never watched the sheep ai play so idk

they also take airframe from austrlia i think

to simulate mp(altho people no longer do that)

i remember sheep uk also missing a bit on eco

[nocturne cloak]

im just playing as the UK puppet

and ill watch

the UK play!

[pliant condor]

idk if they would play optimally

like sheep uk make tank

which you probably don't want to do

and they don't put every mil on air

[neat widget]

Sheep has told me they swear by that design

also keep in mind space marines are totally legal in singleplayer

[pliant condor]

that's a very nice template

[neat widget]

But yeah I have no way of telling how good it actually is

[nocturne cloak]

i dont think they do

11 mils on ground

[neat widget]

BTW if you want to observe do these two commands

observe

fow

(fow for fog of war)

You can basically see everyone at the same time while relaxing

[dark jetty]

im quite new to HOI4, why is this battle taking so long? (its been about half a year) and i really dont think the forts are helping them THAT much

[nocturne cloak]

the stats...

[neat widget]

your units only have like 2-8 attack

hover over those numbers to see what's going on

But as long as their green/red bars go to zero then you will push them off

[pliant condor]

your soldiers were swimming across a river and attacking onto a hill in bare hands

how you kill them is you fall back

let their division walk in

[nocturne cloak]

your soldiers were swimming across a river and attacking onto a hill with a fort on top with bare hands*

[pliant condor]

then micro your division to walk behind them and take their capital

i think their soldiers already dismantled the fort with their hands

[nocturne cloak]

shhh

we cant be certain

[neat widget]

and a large river at that, so that's a 60% penalty

[torn thorn]

how does the independent state of croatia creation mechanic work? from my impression, it seems that it appears whenever it is invaded, but recently im my round i took over half of yugoslavia and no such nation appeared.

[nocturne cloak]

@pliant condor Sheep mod UK is 60 Mils by Feb 1939 and more mils on ground than air

[pliant condor]

yes, not optimal

[neat widget]

I think I got more mils than sheep's by that point

[tribal stratus]

Nearly 7 hours of my life

For this

Disgusting border gore men

Man

[wild rune]

😭

why does that polish state look like that

[tribal stratus]

It’s legit crazy bro

Looks like sum

LMAO I DIDNT NOTICE

LMAO

[neat widget]

Probably some peace deal thing

[nocturne cloak]

@pliant condor kitten

[tribal stratus]

Literally hilarious

That was such a fun game though

I didn’t get the achievement is there an achievement

For beating Germany as Austria?

[broken compass]

ok what have they done to navy??

Ive got like 500 boats in the channel yet its still red

[nocturne cloak]

they need to be patrol

[broken compass]

they are

[nocturne cloak]

no they arent

[broken compass]

?

[pliant condor]

you have no task force on patrol

[broken compass]

huh?

i have 8

[pliant condor]

red text

[broken compass]

what does that mean..

[serene karma]

No range

Enable the automatic home base selection thing

[torn thorn]

please help

[vital geode]

When did you invade yugo

[dense frigate]

Ngl
New dlc really messed up my naval skills and AI's competency
Whenever back in the day, we used to have proper naval battle
Now it's just picking off some destroyer or cruiser

Devs made efforts to fix this. But still new naval system prohibits the AI to even use it properly
Like man I don't want my KIDO BUTAI to leave the port just to finish of a cruiser. 🙏🥀

[torn thorn]

spring 1940

[vital geode]

Are you allied with Germany

[torn thorn]

i am germany

[vital geode]

Hmm, if Croatia doesn't spawn, then yugo must have fixed the Croatia separatism

Guess you just have more control of the balkans

[torn thorn]

the ai have a focus for that? is there anyway i can prevent that from happening

[vital geode]

I believe you can set it to what you want to engage

[vital geode]

Attack sooner

Also why do you want Croatia to spawn

Or keep invading yugo

[dense frigate]

....
Since when can we do that 🤔?

[vital geode]

It might be delayed

[vital geode]

Since new naval update

[torn thorn]

historical purposes

[vital geode]

There is a little button somewhere on the right side of the bar and if you click it, you can choose what to engage

It might do a stupid and if it sees a destroyer it runs away, so use carefully

[dense frigate]

I didn't know about that.
Well ❤️‍🩹
Time to fix my fleet

[torn thorn]

I have to wait until romania becomes axis aligned

[vital geode]

I just use it for my patrols to not engage capitals

[vital geode]

That is a factor?

[torn thorn]

because romania guarantees the independence of yugoslavia, which means i cant have legionary romania anymore

[vital geode]

Well it seems you need to have them also have anti-german military

In either case, you can just manually release them

[torn thorn]

if i release romania would it instate antonescu as leader?

[vital geode]

No

They need a focus to get antonescu

If you do it too early, it will be one of two guys

[torn thorn]

oh ok

i do have historical ai focus on though?

[nocturne cloak]

@pliant condor

How many mils should be on strat bombers

[frail raven]

what are the best dlc’s to buy

[nocturne cloak]

@glacial steeple

ummm

is there something wrong here

the strat bombing seems a tad bit low

14.4

[neat widget]

hover over one of those adjusters

[nocturne cloak]

122

[neat widget]

Yeah that's quite normal

[nocturne cloak]

bro these things so useless

they are not doing enough for how much they cost

[neat widget]

They literally destroy military factories

[nocturne cloak]

500 of them

that took a lil bit to get

are destroying 10 mils

[neat widget]

Who are you fighting

[nocturne cloak]

ger

[neat widget]

you may have to switch to another air region

[glacial steeple]

huh

[neat widget]

Honestly for these bombers you don't need more than basic hull

Or if you're afraid of being shot down

[half yarrow]

How to invade Russia I took all of Europe France Norway etc. But when it came to Russia I didn't even take 1 tile and then I died how to do it what templates to use ??? Also is there a mod with a 1941 start date ?

[nocturne cloak]

?

how do you struggle against USSR

[half yarrow]

Bro

[serene karma]

What dlc

[half yarrow]

I don't have any dlc's

I'm not a millionaire

[serene karma]

What template

Also send ss

[half yarrow]

I mean what should I use

Gimme a sec

My panzer and infantry Divisions

[nocturne cloak]

why are you using motorized arti on inf

[nocturne cloak]

also

that tank template

[half yarrow]

Cuz idk how templates work

[nocturne cloak]

😬

[nocturne cloak]

bro

[half yarrow]

You done ?

[nocturne cloak]

Heavy, Medium and Light tank

on 1 di

div

[half yarrow]

What part of I'm new do you not understand ???

[nocturne cloak]

okay but what in your mind made you think 3 different tanks on 1 template

is a good idea

[half yarrow]

I mean worked on France I guess

[nocturne cloak]

Are you germany?

[half yarrow]

Yeah

[nocturne cloak]

use medium tanks

w a good template

and a good design

[half yarrow]

Are heavy tanks worth researching?

[half yarrow]

Yeah that's kinda my point what is a good template

[neat widget]

which infantry doctrine are you using

[nocturne cloak]

generally not worth it

[neat widget]

to the contrary heavy tanks aren't bad, it's a choice thing

although actually

nah, mediums are better since there are now 40 medium spgs per battalion

so yeah mediums better

when there were 50 mediums and 40 heavies it was a balanced choice

[nocturne cloak]

slide him a good med template

[half yarrow]

How to see doctrines ?

Okay I figured It out

Yeah I didn't really look at doctrines

[nocturne cloak]

what year

[half yarrow]

1942

Early

[nocturne cloak]

and only 300 factories

its okay!

[half yarrow]

Lil late with Barbarossa

[half yarrow]

How much should I have ?

[nocturne cloak]

nah u fine

dw champ

[half yarrow]

Oh okay

[inner sparrow]

only for mp

[inner sparrow]

theres one in pinned 2nd message

[half yarrow]

Where ?

[inner sparrow]

pinned messages

this one for sp

[neat widget]

btw if you want strange designs also take a look at the canadian + south american marine division (it is amtracs mixed with normal mech)

[neat widget]

empty support slot?

No radio?

[inner sparrow]

radio isn’t essentially needed for sp

surely your 1.4k base soft and 400 base break tank won’t click everything the ai puts up

[inner sparrow]

but if you want to stat minmax in sp add them

u can add whatever u want in last support slot, like logi

[neat widget]

fair

[inner sparrow]

i mean ask topazand for the reason, its high design from pinned

maybe he just forgor

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-forgot-i-forgor-gif-22449575

[half yarrow]

What am I looking at

Is that tank with altilerry combined

[inner sparrow]

yeah its an spg

medium chasis but u put howy 1 or 2 as gun and change its role to an artillery tank

[half yarrow]

And it will work late game ? On Russia specifically

[nocturne cloak]

@north quail goodboy

[nocturne cloak]

It works in sp

[inner sparrow]

yes?

[nocturne cloak]

No matter what

1k soft attack brah

[inner sparrow]

its the best sp option for tanks

[half yarrow]

Thanks can't beat them at all

Also is there a mod or Smth that starts the game in 1941 ?

[inner sparrow]

mostly is bc of other reasons and rarely about your template

usually bc of stuff like no supplies, not fully trained divisions to lvl3, no stockpile, no strength in your divs, not enough divs, not stacking combat modifiers ( biggest reason )

[inner sparrow]

idk

[half yarrow]

Dang it

[nocturne cloak]

@inner sparrow do u meow for men

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958058230804795392/1346423662709837885/reuhrt.gif

[nocturne cloak]

@inner sparrow are you aware your gf is a 50 year old man

[half yarrow]

Okay that is likely here

[inner sparrow]

truke, thats why she lives 5 min away from me

[nocturne cloak]

You are a lil cutie

Aren't you

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240795641181900883/1312622161097392168/caption.gif

[neat phoenix]

hi , why is everything red
my first time playing after NCNS update
I can only give orders to my navy at the coast of USA , everywhere else is RED

[neat widget]

Your fleet is in san diego

look at the button next to the gear

[neat phoenix]

i dont understand? but I brought my ships here

thx for pointing that out tho
i'll look into it next time I open the game

[nocturne cloak]

Why don't people D-Day alot sooner

[nocturne cloak]

@glacial steeple new navy is so good

[scenic nacelle]

U gotta d-day in 1944 bro

Trust the process

I mean it worked irl

[nocturne cloak]

Start of barbarosa

[scenic nacelle]

That’s boring

And happens like nearly every time

[nocturne cloak]

If ussr is competent

[fading fern]

It's not the thickness or length of the arrow that's relevant, it's the movement

[stuck garnet]

I usually go gasoline and christle

[stuck garnet]

How do you stack combat modifiers?

[tough oak]

Should I? Don't really got the equipment due to prior wars with Turkey and Romania

[inner sparrow]

planning, generals, country stats like high command, tactics, intel, terrain, cas, lvl of your division and stuff like that

[stuck garnet]

Who are you allied with?

Oh

[bleak plinth]

can someone help me with a good medium cheap tank template?

[charred fable]

Its 1942 and the Axis has stalled along Ukraine and Belarus. The Allies air is pretty much tamed thanks to me as Argentina joining the war. How can I ensure Germany victory against the USSR?

I've started developing a ton of bombers, but am I going to have to go there with my own forces?

[inner sparrow]

take the one of the spg tank in pinned

u can even cheapen it a bit by changing the design to an 8-9 ich tank

[native gorge]

okay someone explain this mess to me

[spiral crag]

should i use mechanized like this?

first time using them

[native gorge]

One does not use mechanized without tanks

[native gorge]

Okay a bit too much tanks

Just try to split mechanized and armor evenly (and go 36 width)

But looking at the template name if you just want to kill tanks and only tanks might as well just go full on tank division

[spiral crag]

nah the name is irelevant i just put it for fun

oh yeah how do i naval invade USA

[open lynx]

only tanks? wont he have no org

[native gorge]

Ngl i didnt even see that tanks decrease org i just look up templates and boom i encircled 300k troops 🤷‍♂️

[open lynx]

i see

[inner sparrow]

u do for defensive

[open lynx]

yea

[native gorge]

Do NOT try to naval invade from Europe

Either get a country in or near North America to join the war so you can naval invade from there

Or just invade the UK (its gonna suck but its better than attempting to gain naval supremacy from Europe to the Americas)

[open lynx]

he already has uk if hes playing germany

[spiral crag]

wait

[native gorge]

Oh wait a minute

dont tell me canada broke free from the uk

[spiral crag]

get someone to join huh

[native gorge]

Yeah no

Good luck trying to get naval supremacy in 5 seperate seas

[open lynx]

go to iceland then greenland and then canada

[native gorge]

Oh right

Island hopping campaigns

Do that

[spiral crag]

yeah that or to south amerika

[native gorge]

There's like, no good place to island hop into south America

Just go from north to south

[native gorge]

Anyways someone explain this supply hell

Is it because i have too many troops?

[spiral crag]

tbh idk anything about supply and how it works

[native gorge]

Yeah it might be cause of the troops i had like 3 seperate armies and now there's 4 😭

The amount of troops i have there might equate to 25% of Florida's population rn

Actually no

Just ONE army has that number

[open lynx]

did you block the sea zone?

or maybe youre getting convoy raided

[native gorge]

Oh yeah

That might be it

But i have naval supremacy tho?

[half yarrow]

@inner sparrow ts better ?

[open lynx]

you can get raided with naval supremecy i think

unless they changed it

with the newest update

[native gorge]

Guh

Can i at least just cover one sea and itll be fixed?

[inner sparrow]

no this is bad

[native gorge]

Because i think I would not be practicing what i preached

[half yarrow]

Damn it

[hollow linden]

Ye Kind Terrible, remove like for tanks, replace the mot with cav or mech and add 2 more of those. Remove mot recon and add more support companies

Maybe make spgs too

[half yarrow]

How to make dogs ?

Spgs

[hollow linden]

Here's an example

[hollow linden]

Idk don't ask me

[olive blade]

is this valid in the new dlc?

[hollow linden]

God no

[olive blade]

msb?

[hollow linden]

@inner sparrow how do we tell him

[hollow linden]

Switch tank role in the tanks designer

[inner sparrow]

no it isnt

line arty is bad for pushing/attacking divisions

its okaish for defending but theres better options

[open lynx]

I never understood why its bad

[inner sparrow]

because it lacks break, it gives no break and u need break if you want to push with a div

[open lynx]

I see

[inner sparrow]

and the stats it gives are not good

[open lynx]

So what should you use instead?

[olive blade]

against inf only tho?

[inner sparrow]

the soft is like nothing compared to its cost, I can make a light spg tank that costs less and has better soft attack

[inner sparrow]

yes its bad

[inner sparrow]

pure inf battleplan and air, that will push anything

or spg tanks

[hollow linden]

All the same, lacks break

[olive blade]

yea cant afford tanks

[inner sparrow]

this light tank has more soft than ur line arty

and costs less

[olive blade]

k ill try

[inner sparrow]

u don’t even need to use it

just use a 16width, pure inf batallion with support arty and whatever else support equipment you want

and use air

cas

and u will win against the ai

[inner sparrow]

if u play a major do this

every major has the ic for this

and use air again and battleplan

u can win against 99% of players even with big inf battleplan + air

its cheap, its spammable, has good stats, is easy

[open lynx]

So support arty is good?

[inner sparrow]

support arty is good in sp yes

line arty is bad

even then ur division mostly never is the main reason why u lose, unless you use very very bad designs

theres a lot more important things that matter more than your division template

[hollow linden]

Mfw I see org high command 😭

[tribal stratus]

Man I love peace conferences

Look what happened to Poland bro

[hollow linden]

Artillery high command 😭

[tribal stratus]

😭

[nocturne cloak]

brah

we dont need 1.8k soft attack

at which point

is enough, enough

[hollow linden]

Never

Not with attack anyhow

[stuck garnet]

Why does the 17 width have so many support companies

[hollow linden]

Cuz why not

But ye it's kinda expensive

[stuck garnet]

Org

[hollow linden]

What?

[stuck garnet]

Support companies lower org

Unless youre doing sfp

[open lynx]

whats sfp

[hollow linden]

Not a thing anymore?

[hollow linden]

So?

[hollow linden]

He's yapping about old stuff

Short for superior firepower

Sfp is best grand doctrine for inf now

[jolly coyote]

why cant i use my navy here

[stuck garnet]

Superior firepower

[stuck garnet]

Ohhh offense yeah

[stuck garnet]

?

[scenic nacelle]

The old doctrine system

[stuck garnet]

Yeah

Does it still give buffs to supports?

[stuck garnet]

Why no radio

[stuck garnet]

Rocket line arty any good?

[stuck garnet]

Take more hubs

[bleak plinth]

which ones the best overall for air superiority?

[stuck garnet]

Airspace dominance methinks

[inner sparrow]

nah

[inner sparrow]

bc u dont need it for sp

[stuck garnet]

No

Like

You added extra ammo

[lapis pilot]

You need to Ctrl+Right-click on naval base

thats how you set new Home base for that fleet

and then you have fleet range like (3-4k km) around home base

[glacial steeple]

good morning

[left glacier]

[stuck garnet]

Bad morning 😎

(Im so cool)

[trail reef]

how get hitler assasinaited?

[glacial steeple]

fail against czechs

[trail reef]

fail like how just be at war with them for a while

[glacial steeple]

get rejected and iirc yeah

[trail reef]

iirc stands for what again?

[glacial steeple]

if i remember correctly

[trail reef]

aaa and nothing else? and is there a way i can make sure someone gets the power

[sinful vessel]

If i accept a country in my faction, will i have penalty to eject and conquer it later ?

[trail reef]

which economic focuses are best when u do civil war

[glacial steeple]

its the same as normal?

[glacial steeple]

only a relations penalty

[rapid urchin]

Is it at all possible to get a 30% cost reduction on planes via the japans factions management?

Make army dominant and naval faction subdued

[neat widget]

People actually do D-Day at around this time

The Axis struggle to have enough fuel to put up air in both east and west

Thus, the Allies can and do naval invade around Barbarossa

It's just that the AI aren't players

[rocky rose]

👋

[pliant condor]

that's exactly what you do

or do you wanna dday in 1940

[neat widget]

d-day in 1939

[trail reef]

no but mefo bill or prioritize economic growth

i put trotsky on house arrest as norway can i then ask him to become apart of government?

[summer nymph]

I wiped out the allied navy as Japan and proceeded to maintain naval supremacy around the UK for a year+ to let Germany or whoever invade, they never did lol. Nationalist Spain landed in Ireland, but Germany and Italy never even attempted to naval invade even though they had nothing else to do in the world, why is the AI so bad 😂 😭

[neat widget]

then naval invade yourself if you could

[summer nymph]

yeah I easily could have but I wanted to test the limits of Axis AI failure

[analog maple]

guys is it better to attack the soviets at 1941 as germany like historically done or is it better to wait to 1942 to get more prepared?

[opaque garden]

did u cap uk yet?

[analog maple]

yea

[hollow linden]

Soviets get stronger the longer u wait, so if you arent ready in 41, its fine to wait until 42 just dont wait too long

[opaque garden]

id say attack when u are prepared

[hollow linden]

But like if sealion is already over then its high time

[opaque garden]

make sure you have strong army

and when u have 3 collab

and first focus on your mefo bills

get turkey for chromium

and build reineries

[opaque garden]

should be fine right

even till 45

[tribal stratus]

Any suggestions for a world conquest run? Best nation to do it, I’m not very good with tank templates etc

If there’s any suggestion for a path of infantry path I could go down that would be rlly helpful

[glacial steeple]

no?

this game is about relative strenght much more than being prepared

with a good build you should be prepared when your relative strenght outscales your opponent (usually a temporary time)

but a bad player might not be prepared sufficiently, that doesnt mean it isnt the correct time to attack

because your strenght relative to your opponent will not get better

[sacred patrol]

any advice on making strategies and shit in this game

[neat widget]

chile + mountaineers should still work

[opaque garden]

yes ik I told him to fix his economy first with that germany outpaces the soviets in growth and your relative strength becomes higher

plus germany researches faster than soviets so you'll also have a big technological gap

[sacred patrol]

any advice, am kinda new at the game (i dont understand shit about military navy and air)

[opaque garden]

watch YouTube guides

best strat

i recommend bittersteel

but others are also fine

[sacred patrol]

i tried

yet recreating shit just doesnt work

i always die bcs they suddenly get 20 more units out of thin air

and am talking about the small stuff getting 20, the big guys get like 100

[neat widget]

bittersteel is a bit late game tbh

I don't think you will figure out how well to research or stuff like that from bittersteel

[sacred patrol]

trust me

am a dumbass enough to not understand military

[neat widget]

Do give this Germany guide a chance:

although this one is outdated since it's from before 1.17

so make adjustments accordingly

[glacial steeple]

but you dont

[opaque garden]

yes?

[glacial steeple]

soviets/allies always have more potential eco/growth

[opaque garden]

did for me

[glacial steeple]

soviets are weakest in like 1940

[opaque garden]

you rly excepting capable ai?

[glacial steeple]

i expect the ai to be about as capable as the players

[opaque garden]

if u get collab France and UK then u can outpace perfectly fine from my experience

[glacial steeple]

ah now we're relying on the player to sealion

[opaque garden]

what

is that not how you're supposed to play?

[glacial steeple]

its one of the ways you can play

you definitely dont have to

[neat widget]

I mean

[opaque garden]

yes but it makes it way easier

[neat widget]

I relied on a player to paradrop france

they were totally able to

But they... just didn't

[opaque garden]

could paradrkp France but whats the point

theyre a paperclip anyways

[neat widget]

They got stuck in the Benelux

[opaque garden]

the slightest push and they fall

[opaque garden]

oh

[neat widget]

And they were explicitly trying to learn how to paradrop

[opaque garden]

oh

plane go vroom

men jump from plane

ok if u wanna paradrop build them planes early and build air you need 70 percent air superiority

[neat widget]

Since all the French people were fighting in the Benelux they moved their air away, which basically made a perfect paradrop window

[opaque garden]

transport planes are really expensive so start building them early

[neat widget]

They had total air superiority over northern france because France just didn't have planes at all

[opaque garden]

and research paratroopers

[neat widget]

Germany starts out with like 80 transport planes

[glacial steeple]

germany starts with 80

[opaque garden]

France being france

[opaque garden]

still

[glacial steeple]

only nation to start with them

[opaque garden]

80 isnt enough

[glacial steeple]

it is

[opaque garden]

well it is

[glacial steeple]

you need 50 per division

[opaque garden]

but I like sending them in at once

[stiff moth]

Don’t you get Fallschirm focuses that boost plane count?

[opaque garden]

looks nicer

[neat widget]

Which is wild since the Soviets should probably have some

[opaque garden]

5 percent special cap

[neat widget]

Well okay, France moved them all to the Benelux making it totally empty

[opaque garden]

and Kurt stedent

thats it

nothing slse

[neat widget]

Yeah 80 isn't enough because you need two divisions at least, if not three

But by 1938 you should be able to get 70 more

[opaque garden]

you can send them in one after the other

[glacial steeple]

idk? ive never done those

[stiff moth]

Ye airborne is really underdeveloped in this game, they could at least include the ability to transport troops using aircraft

[neat widget]

True

[glacial steeple]

its also not really relevant

youre capable of doing it

[neat widget]

Yeah

I've been thinking about helicopter units, and how they should be able to island hop from one island to another

[opaque garden]

would be nice

i hate playing the us cuz navy

[neat widget]

But they of course shouldn't have like 1000 km of range like transport planes

[opaque garden]

having them would make playing us way more fun for me

omfg

40 percent research speed decrease

as Ethiopia

this is worse than liberia

[neat widget]

Probably like 300 or 400 km I imagine

[glacial steeple]

play on elite so its 70

[opaque garden]

oh hell naw

[glacial steeple]

what path are you doing

[opaque garden]

idk just started

what do u recommend

[glacial steeple]

lion stands is pretty good you get a lot of stats

communist is ok too

[rain bluff]

Im playing as japan with the new dlc, but randomly the options to integrate manchuria states dissapeared? Even though my complaince is 50% in those states the options just randomly dissapeared, and didnt come back when i restarted

[glacial steeple]

you get eco and tech

[opaque garden]

should I go renwed offensive or falling back?

[glacial steeple]

always renewed offensive

it buffs your spirit

[opaque garden]

aight

[glacial steeple]

you dont have to actually attack

[opaque garden]

ik

just wait for war escalation

why is Ethiopia on civilian economy

this does not make sense

[glacial steeple]

just gotta go down the political and war tree

[opaque garden]

i mean there isnt a economy to mobilize anyways

but still

[glacial steeple]

maybe do the academy for bold attack

[glacial steeple]

this is such a nothingburger

regardless of eco law you have 1 civ for usage

which you should trade for steel

[opaque garden]

yes

I did

happy soviet union

[glacial steeple]

its like the last thing to spend your pp on

[opaque garden]

which communist path?

[glacial steeple]

right side

[opaque garden]

aight

[glacial steeple]

btw when you peace out on that path you should still do it with the uuhh

whats it called

[opaque garden]

so soviets right?

[glacial steeple]

the normal peace out event

[neat widget]

Ethiopia should probably change away from civilian economy at some point but yeah you basically only have one civ

[glacial steeple]

it means you get to keep the soviet generals

its rlly funny you can stral chuikev

or whatever his name is

commando gen :D

i like lion stands better you just have more inf stats and it plays easier during the war

[opaque garden]

why is he glazing himself so hard

[neat widget]

Well

You know

It's called the Ethiopian Empire

[opaque garden]

this is even worse than the pope😭 😭 😭

[glacial steeple]

how so

[opaque garden]

I think he has a trait called lole grand equestrian of all Christian people and the holy lamds

or smth like that

cant remember exactly

why must Ethiopia be like this

1966😭 😭 😭

and its 1936 rn

[rain bluff]

Im playing as japan with the new dlc, but randomly the options to integrate manchuria states dissapeared? Even though my complaince is 50% in those states the options just randomly dissapeared, and didnt come back when i restarted

[glacial steeple]

i mean its kind of poor

[opaque garden]

but come on

30 years

[glacial steeple]

its because of state debuffs

and civs build slow anyway

[opaque garden]

still by that point there only gonna be like 10 countries left in the world

[sacred patrol]

so mexico is the new villain in non historical rn

[opaque garden]

where did Mexico come from

out of all the countries

[sacred patrol]

idk

@opaque garden this the one time i chose loner wolf path on finland

[opaque garden]

good4u ig

[gusty briar]

Is it just me or did the update bug the AI thats fights alongside u?

Im doing a communist Portugal run, and used to be if u invite the soviets to the civil war that they would end up with the majority of the war score, now i keep seeing them finish with like 10% war score?

I notice the launch a lot of attacks that they immediately halt, and just do that over and over again, launching an attack, halting, launching another attack and halting for no reason even if theyre about to win a battle they just hault.

They also keep way more troops parked on my docks than makes any sense

[opaque garden]

war score rework

[gusty briar]

Its spanish/Portuguese civil war theres no naval battles

[opaque garden]

you know what

why are you even playing Portugal and not do monarchist

[foggy junco]

oh i see. am i supposed to not take as many of the price controls at once as i can. but more 1, wait for it to end then another one? for germany

[glacial steeple]

@cold bloom is there a way to force the soviet right civil war breakaway state event?

[sacred patrol]

hmm

do they both do same thing or am i sutpid

[opaque garden]

you should repeal the law of exile

[sacred patrol]

support or allow

[cold bloom]

You mean for Ukraine to spawn for example?