ask-for-help-here

[hasty belfry]

Or 1 a bit after it starts if you delete all your units and start training one singular one so it stays with you.

[pliant condor]

this is jan 1939

90 mils😭

[burnt iris]

but czech is on the side of the enemys

[sinful vessel]

Which one (playing as Germany), A or B ?

I'd say B but the combat wisth seems very good

[pliant condor]

both are good

if you don't use special forces probably A

ok this is also sp

[sinful vessel]

why B would be better with Special Forces ?

[inner sparrow]

for breakthrough maxing

[scenic nacelle]

there is NO need to do that

[scenic nacelle]

yeah

PUSH

attack to that border

[pliant condor]

because the bonus you get are generic

to leg infantry

whereas on A you get width reduction which is good but only apply on normal infantry

[hasty belfry]

Preserve the manpower in the country.

So that much less is lost in the civil war.

[burnt iris]

YES, SIR!

[scenic nacelle]

u lose barely any

[hasty belfry]

Destroying their army already loses over a hundred thousand manpower typically when you delete everything before starting the war. That will be much worse if you don’t delete the units.

[scenic nacelle]

oh no germany has 200k less man power!

the country with 82 million or so core population!

[hasty belfry]

With an unrelated army it could be more like 300,000 if the ai raises new units,

[scenic nacelle]

yeah thats not much

[reef field]

why arent my ships doing anything? I dont get the new naval system

theyre just staying in 1 place

without a care in the world

[pliant condor]

click this

[tribal stratus]

Is it better to disregard the treaties as Austria or

Better to accept them

I have a guarantee from the Italians

[glacial steeple]

its a war game

so its a very easy question

does it give you more of an army? > if yes, good
> if no, bad

[tribal stratus]

So yes, but I need the Italians support? Last time they did nothing but maybe this time they’ll do something.

Last time 34 casualties was brutal. And I lost over 50k vs the Germans

[wispy mason]

why do the italians keep getting destroyed pre D-Day????

[light knoll]

Italy sucks
and that's what happened historically

[rapid urchin]

I hate this new china as Japan

So many divisions and it’s hard to kill

[glacial steeple]

move forward

[rapid urchin]

Trying but it’s kinda not going great

My 12widths aren’t doing great

[glacial steeple]

then use the hohei shidan to push

you start with 15

[rapid urchin]

Even those aren’t working great

[low lantern]

Hello everyone, single question that's been bugging me: is there ANY way during a game to see an event that triggers for another country which you normally wouldn't see? I've looked between console commands and mods, but haven't had any luck so far 😅

[rapid urchin]

Not sure what I’m doing wrong tbh

[nocturne cloak]

@pliant condor ur strat is cheesing SP

i dont do that

[light knoll]

except for switching over to another country?

[low lantern]

Except for exactly that, yes.

[light knoll]

i don't think that exists, but what do you need it for?

[low lantern]

1. Ouch that sucks, 2. Because I'm playing mod with plenty of rp events essentially, and I just wanna see what happens in another country I'm interested in while playing my own😅

Basically just personal enjoyment of the game really

I figured they would be such a way to few things for i.e. testing purposes and whatnot

[wispy mason]

you could make the mod 🤷

[low lantern]

I will cross that bridge if I must, but thought it best to view my options before jumping there

If after asking around I get no answer or a definitive no, I'll decide if I want to jump down that particular hole or not

[inner sparrow]

what is he cheesing?

his mil counts seems pretty normal to me

for sp

[glacial steeple]

youd have to play the other nation

[inner sparrow]

nothing out of the ordinary and what or how should he even cheese it

[glacial steeple]

maybe its something as heinous as using the attache button or using the construction screen

[inner sparrow]

xD

[glacial steeple]

its the UK you cant even get like collabs on anything

[low lantern]

Alright, I'll take that as a definite no... In which case, any advice/ places of advice to check on how someone (who has never modded) would make such a thing?

[inner sparrow]

yeah

[glacial steeple]

uuuuhhh idk

[tribal stratus]

HOLY CRAP

SO LUCKY THIS RUN

Best Austria run on histrocial

I never got that focus

Now I can actually beat the Germans

I have France Italy and I got eveyrnting else annexed

Wow

Might be my first decent run

I never got that news

I only got Italian support

The Germans are literally fighting the allies in historical because of me

Wow

[spiral crag]

WHY CANT MY NAVY GO ANYWHERE

nvm i fixed it

[half glade]

how do i make micro adjustments to my troops?

i wanna encircle people

[tribal stratus]

You move them around slowly

You literally control them

[half glade]

but how do i do that?

[tribal stratus]

No offensive line

For encircling? You simply have to either try to trap them in, let them have a province and then surround them

[half glade]

let me draw what i want

[tribal stratus]

You literally just try to make a big circle

And you make sure you cut off their supply lines, find the key province that’s holding them together

And take that

[soft jungle]

I want to learn tank warfare and wanted to ask what is like best tank template for germany lets say like years 39-42. Am i supposed to get inf or mot inf or any other tips would be great

[half glade]

the orange blobs are troops

the green lines is what i want to happen

[glacial steeple]

left click right click

[half glade]

wait so i just move them like normal troops?

no frontline

[tribal stratus]

Yes

[half glade]

no offensive line

[tribal stratus]

No you need front line

[half glade]

oh okay lol

[tribal stratus]

Every time for battle

Front line is needed

[half glade]

okay so i already have a frontline

[tribal stratus]

You just manually move them

Yes

[half glade]

so i can now just left click right clikc to where i want them

and theyll fight their way over

[tribal stratus]

Yes

Yes

I kinda over extended my lines so ignore that, but see how I have the Germany penciled

Encircled

[spiral crag]

how do i gain naval supremasy

[tribal stratus]

nobody knows

That’s very hard

[spiral crag]

do i just put my entier navy on patrol or

[soft jungle]

to be honest

[tribal stratus]

As Germany almost impossible against the UK

[soft jungle]

just have more ships

its stupid

but as germany unles you take liuke french navy and some others you wont win agains uk

[spiral crag]

ok just spam this???

[tribal stratus]

Are you trying to invade Uk?

Just use paratroopers

Easier

[spiral crag]

yes

[soft jungle]

yes

so much better

[tribal stratus]

I’m terrible and I’ve only landed sea lion like once

Figuring out navy is so hard

Forget that

[spiral crag]

really?

[tribal stratus]

Just paratroop it

Yes

It’s so much easier

[soft jungle]

i mean you could do this since i think it works like this rn

[tribal stratus]

You need a ton of planes

[soft jungle]

so you take your ships

and place them where they are neded before war

and get naval dominance before war

and place landing plans also before war

because ai is stupid and doesnt deploy ships for like 6 hours after war is declared

so the naval invasions will fire

[spiral crag]

yeah yeah i know that but im asking during war but i will just spam SHBS

[soft jungle]

to be honest with you i dont know what contributes what in naval combat, what you shown would work ig but im guessing the ships are very expensive and you would need to wait a long time to make enough

like before

its better to use paratroopers

[neat widget]

You don't really need armor on your carriers since if they're being shot at you're doing something wrong

[spiral crag]

you sure?

[neat widget]

guns only affect the first two rows, and carriers are on the third

[fathom thistle]

If you have shbb carriers are not really priority tbh. Production wise just spam shbb and light cruisers. Not saying that carriers are bad

[neat widget]

that's fine

[spiral crag]

does are old but close to what i use now

[soft jungle]

damn they are expensive as hell, how many you have

[spiral crag]

5 and plaing to have 10 more

to kill the us navy

[neat widget]

i see

[spiral crag]

and probably 20 more of does light crusers

[neat widget]

You can probably try striking the Royal Navy right now

That's a pretty formidable force

[soft jungle]

i think it will not work because if i remeber correctly for navy you need some like diversity of power

or something like that

like the ships are big and good for enemy big ships but for example subs will destroy them easly

[neat widget]

Yeah that's what the light cruisers are for

[soft jungle]

im not sure but thats what i remeber

[neat widget]

light cruisers screen the heavy ships against torpedo attacks

[spiral crag]

yeah that was what i was asking do i put my entier navy on partol or send a few ships to patrol and rest on strike forse

[neat widget]

what happens when you send your 20 cruisers on patrol and then your battleships on strike force

[spiral crag]

never tryed i alway sent a few subs or destroyers but they get sunk in 1 day

and dont even find any ships

for my main navy to kill

[neat widget]

20 cruisers with armor 3 should be decently survivable

Plus you have the battleships which should come to their aid if needed

[spiral crag]

i have 10 of them with armor 2

[tribal stratus]

I got so lucky with this Austria Hungary, I have italys backing they did nothing but France randomly helped me

On historical

So lucky man

[neat widget]

oh

Yeah then don't do what I just said

you need to increase your light cruiser production though

[spiral crag]

on it

[neat widget]

you said you were going to make 15 battleships, you need at least 45 cruisers to screen them

If not 60

[spiral crag]

oh

i forgot about the ratio

[neat widget]

Yeah historical sort of goes out the window when you're playing Austria

[tribal stratus]

Love that, if they invade Poland I’ll win

Right now it’s just going to be a long battle

I wonder if they’ll invade Poland or not

[spiral crag]

will this do?

[spiral crag]

im going to send this one out

[spiral crag]

and this for backup

[neat widget]

Yeah that won't be too bad I think

[spiral crag]

im going to send it out i see what happens

im dead😭

nvm it was more or less good

[pliant condor]

?

my strat is building factory

seriously you can't have 90 mils in 1940 unless you weren't building anything for half of the game

[stuck garnet]

With like

[neat widget]

not building factories

who could possibly do that

But seriously economy is like the #1 thing in this game

[zenith dirge]

how tf do i learn the game bro

its so hard

[half glade]

navy is genuinely going to make me crashout

how tf do you select the whole navy

[fading ibex]

i always merge them first, select all of your ships move them to 1 group and press g

[tepid umbra]

Practice

A ton

And read pins and watch vids and stuff

Playing and watching will naturally make you better

[winter drift]

What is even the meta abouth in mp i haven't played mp in a long time

[rapid urchin]

Should I do two or three collabs on china as Japan?

3 takes a lot of eco

So I’m not sure

[glacial steeple]

2

3***

cannot spell

ofx you do 3

[opaque garden]

how do I win this?

im not winning at all

[rapid urchin]

Okay

[opaque garden]

and actual advice pls

my army is getting absolutely cooked

by the supply in china

should I just straight up go for American homeland and abandon China?

yes I have a navy

yes I have green air

yes im not in a deficit

of equipment

yes I still have manpower

I just need a good template

pls help

pls broski anyone

I have played hoi4 long enough

Just help me finish my world conquest

[short thicket]

yes

[charred fable]

You need to focus on capturing the supply hubs. Press F5 and it'll show you where they are. Also consider building railways to link up supply hubs that aren't connected already.

[opaque garden]

ik ik the logistics and shit

and my army is just too big

building hubs aint gonna work

[short thicket]

then disband

[opaque garden]

nah

more icons

and like their army is almost bigger than mine

if i disband then I will get pushed backed to Tehran or smth

[short thicket]

debug

[hasty belfry]

Could the -10% light tank production cost you can get from a spirit of the army with mobile warfare make light tank divisions viable?

[short thicket]

nah jk

try to improve the template of your divisions

[opaque garden]

im mass assault

[opaque garden]

fair enough

[hasty belfry]

What?

[opaque garden]

large unit field engineering streamlined and mission type tactics

all maxed

except armor

armor lvl 3

so I dont wanna switch to mobile warfare

[short thicket]

use paratroopers

or nuke them

[hasty belfry]

That message wasn’t towards you.

[opaque garden]

I have them

[hasty belfry]

I was asking a question.

[opaque garden]

but how am I supposed to use them

[short thicket]

basically

you will stall the original front

[short thicket]

then you use the paratroopers

[opaque garden]

paratroopers template

ik ik not very optimal

but I can afford them

[short thicket]

get the armour recoinassance out

and the armour one too

[opaque garden]

what no

[short thicket]

since you are mass assault

[opaque garden]

I dont have armor recon

I have light flametank and paratroopers tank

airborne light armor

[short thicket]

remove the light flametank

[opaque garden]

for what

[short thicket]

so it can be more flexible

[opaque garden]

I like the soft attack

[opaque garden]

just remove them?

not replace them?

[short thicket]

test it out

[opaque garden]

why

[short thicket]

after you deploy the paratroopers

[opaque garden]

I can afford them

[short thicket]

said test them

[opaque garden]

test them where

[short thicket]

no way

[opaque garden]

I have no troops in us

[short thicket]

make a savefile

and test them landing

if they are too bad

[opaque garden]

and there are like 800 division in china

[short thicket]

change it to normal

[opaque garden]

ironman

on

this is achievement run

[short thicket]

then create another paratroop division

and get the flametank out

[opaque garden]

omg why paratroopers

I mainly just used them to cal france

[short thicket]

cause it will distract the troops

its better than naval invasion

[opaque garden]

and regular troops also do that

[short thicket]

just do what i say

i tested it out

after you deploy the paratroopers

you will advance

[opaque garden]

actually I played for 8 hours now

ima stop

im satisfied

not rly

but still

[short thicket]

i played it for 18 hours

in a megacampaign

[opaque garden]

which country

[short thicket]

russian empire

[tepid umbra]

Why

[opaque garden]

you know what

atleast i have papa pio

[tepid umbra]

Oh wait were you at war with the us

[opaque garden]

and I can admire his face

[opaque garden]

yes

[tepid umbra]

If so, then your divisions have some problems cuz no way you are getting that big of a causualty ratio

[opaque garden]

im having a major skill issue rn

[opaque garden]

supply

[short thicket]

yo thomas

[tepid umbra]

Where

[opaque garden]

my troops were made for europe

not china

[short thicket]

how long do you play it

[opaque garden]

play what?

[short thicket]

fortnite 2

[tepid umbra]

Lategame europe troops should work for both

[short thicket]

obviously hoi4

[opaque garden]

its more force deployed block of infantry

[tepid umbra]

Just either micro supply hubs or stop any planning while you build better supply

[opaque garden]

750 hours

[tepid umbra]

Stop any battle planning

[short thicket]

2k hours

[tepid umbra]

And build more supply

[opaque garden]

good4u

that you're more unemployed

[tepid umbra]

Also you can prolly invade from the north of china with tanks

[opaque garden]

my navy is big

[tepid umbra]

Unless ussr is still alive

[opaque garden]

its rly obsolete tho

[tepid umbra]

Okay

[opaque garden]

noop

[short thicket]

im a writer

[opaque garden]

only real enemy major is usa

[tepid umbra]

I meant from the top

With tanks

Like curve around through former manchuria

And follow the coast

[opaque garden]

current China situation

[tepid umbra]

Do you have no tanks

[opaque garden]

I do

[tepid umbra]

That's practically just the plains part

[opaque garden]

they have no supply

[stuck garnet]

Wat

[opaque garden]

and no fuel

[tepid umbra]

Move them to korea

[opaque garden]

wdym?

[tepid umbra]

Trade or stop using navy

[stuck garnet]

American china😭

[opaque garden]

I have fuel

[stuck garnet]

Cursed timeline

[opaque garden]

its just supply

I have resources enough

not rly

but still

[stuck garnet]

Misclick

[neat widget]

ah yes kagoshima be like

[tepid umbra]

Move to korea

Your tanks are in the wrong places if they're undersupplied

[tepid umbra]

If you move to korea and follow the coast then there is supply

[tepid umbra]

Jesus christ what are you producing

[short thicket]

trade with tibet

fr fr

[tepid umbra]

Where is your steel

[opaque garden]

I have 2k mills

[stuck garnet]

Do you need that many mils😭

Goddamn

[opaque garden]

yes

[tepid umbra]

What do your divisions look like

[opaque garden]

I just learnt that civ greed is bad

[stuck garnet]

How the hell do you have 2k mils

[tepid umbra]

Cuz there's no way you're losing that badly

[opaque garden]

look at the map broski

I own everything

in africa

europe

most of asia

[stuck garnet]

Goddamn

[neat widget]

wow you still have coal

[opaque garden]

well I dont own liberia

[tepid umbra]

I did world conquest and didn't even break 1k

[opaque garden]

I do

[stuck garnet]

What year is it

[opaque garden]

46

[stuck garnet]

WHAT

[tepid umbra]

Coal is easy to get if you own everything now

[opaque garden]

wdym?

[tepid umbra]

Coal consumption got ultra nerfed

[opaque garden]

.

wdym?

[stuck garnet]

10 years

[tepid umbra]

What are your divisions

And what are your planes

[opaque garden]

block o infatry

[tepid umbra]

Are you even using planes

[opaque garden]

with art

[tepid umbra]

Send an ss

[opaque garden]

and eng

[opaque garden]

yes

the cost 60

so I think theyre good

yes I can produce enough of them

yes i have green air

[tepid umbra]

Windows+shift+S bro

[tepid umbra]

Do you have good cas tho

[opaque garden]

3 bomb locks

[stuck garnet]

Is rocket cas any good

[scenic nacelle]

try it

and see

[tepid umbra]

Send a screenshot dude

[stuck garnet]

Tell meeee😭

[tepid umbra]

Of all your stuff

[opaque garden]

sent it

[tepid umbra]

Stats too

But that seems good

[opaque garden]

oh

[stuck garnet]

Add another

For gits and shigs

Up your engine😭

[opaque garden]

not enough thrust

[neat widget]

raaaaange

[opaque garden]

stats

[sinful vessel]

Is it usefull to have 3x bomb ? I didn't see more stat so i've never done it, but it may be a mistake 😕

[opaque garden]

I mean i can afford

so why not

[tepid umbra]

Shouldn't ground attack be higher than 0

[stuck garnet]

Look at the

The missions or wtv

Its bba its confusing

[opaque garden]

you know what atleast i have 30 mill manpower

[sinful vessel]

And the missions are better with 2x same bomb ?

[stuck garnet]

Idk i use heavy locks

[tepid umbra]

You've lost 5 mil in china tho

[opaque garden]

and I can still get more

only on extensive

rn

[stuck garnet]

More bombs = more ground attack

[sinful vessel]

and multiple heavy locks ?

[stuck garnet]

Tis all i know

[tepid umbra]

5 mil losses means inefficient pushes

[stuck garnet]

The 1940 tech

All 3 ig yeah

[opaque garden]

its fine

[tepid umbra]

Except he has 0

[opaque garden]

I can replenish them

us cant

[stuck garnet]

Look at the mission

[tepid umbra]

I cant read

[stuck garnet]

I know sorry

Hey uhh

Show us the missions

[opaque garden]

how bout

I tell u its 3 percent mission efficiency

[tepid umbra]

Jesus christ

[opaque garden]

and the rest is also bad

[tepid umbra]

Dude

[opaque garden]

wha

[broken compass]

Bruh im playing austria and did the focus that adds germany to your faction and they left instantly 😭

[stuck garnet]

What😭

[opaque garden]

elaborate

broski

[tepid umbra]

Get more

[broken compass]

They accepted but left INSTANTLY thats so rude 🥀

[opaque garden]

how

how broski

more ground crews only gives me like 2 percent extra

[tepid umbra]

I dont know

Read

[opaque garden]

read what

what am I doing wrong😭 😭 😭

[tepid umbra]

Smth idfk

I dont deal with air

Figure out what's lowering the efficiency

And stop it

[opaque garden]

I also have a flied Marshall group with these

is that good?

[tepid umbra]

Wtf

What are your doctrines

[opaque garden]

mass assault

[tepid umbra]

Also what does that one paradrop support thing do (the 3rd one)

[tepid umbra]

Screenshot

[opaque garden]

Italy only assault battalion

[opaque garden]

large unit

field engineering

[tepid umbra]

Oh yeah that

[opaque garden]

streamlined

[tepid umbra]

Forgot abt that

[opaque garden]

mission type

[tepid umbra]

Ok get rid of the line art

You barely have things that buff it

[opaque garden]

why

ok

[tepid umbra]

Bad

[opaque garden]

so what

[bitter oak]

Yowchhhh, line artillery

[opaque garden]

looks cool

[tepid umbra]

What do your tanks look like

[tepid umbra]

Line art can be good if you have the right doctrines

[opaque garden]

I just started ranks 3 moth ago ok

[tepid umbra]

More inf

[bitter oak]

Just stick to 36w pure infantry if you want okay attack infantry ngl

[tepid umbra]

Dawg

[tepid umbra]

Erm actuslly it's 35.6

Cuz they have large unit tactics

[bitter oak]

I don't read my widths

😎

[opaque garden]

tank division

ik ik its expensive

its fine tho

I have Italian industry to support it

[broken compass]

No org..

[opaque garden]

oh ye

that exists

[broken compass]

Youre gonna need some mechanised

[opaque garden]

why

mechanized

haven't done mech research yet

[tepid umbra]

Dude

Dawg

[opaque garden]

furthest is truck

[broken compass]

Motorised then

[opaque garden]

what

[tepid umbra]

No wonder your tanks aren't pushing

[opaque garden]

just say it

what is it

[tepid umbra]

They suck

[opaque garden]

ok

[tepid umbra]

Combad width, supply, and org

Also with the right doctrines spg is meta now

[opaque garden]

tbh I only look at soft attack

and hard attack

[tepid umbra]

Those matter, but so does breakthrough, org, health, and combat width

[opaque garden]

the deficits are mostly for reserve divisions

[tepid umbra]

Read pins for good tanks

Swap mecha for motorized if you dont have it yet

But get mecha asap

[opaque garden]

oh shi

my mio gives me a total of plus 18 percent cost for infantry

[tepid umbra]

Not a big deal

You have a million

Lower mils in inf equip if anything

Get sp art

[opaque garden]

its only 450

spaa?

[tepid umbra]

450 military factories?

Dude

[opaque garden]

yes

[tepid umbra]

You do not need that many

[opaque garden]

its only 1/4 of my mills

[tepid umbra]

Self propelled artillery

[opaque garden]

id say that ratio is fine

[tepid umbra]

You still dont need that much

You have a million inf equip

[opaque garden]

oh im putting 600 on modern tanks

and im still in a deficit😭 😭 😭

[tepid umbra]

What do the tanks look like

[tepid umbra]

Production efficiency prolly

Modern tanks are expensive

Prolly not even worth it against ai

[opaque garden]

nope maxed efficiency

im producing 30 a day for 150 mills

max efficiency

[tepid umbra]

Damn

Uhhh

Your tanks are a bit expensive

[opaque garden]

see

[tepid umbra]

And have a lot of armor

[opaque garden]

ik

I cam afford them

[tepid umbra]

Maybe make them cheaper

[tepid umbra]

Clearly not

[opaque garden]

its fine

build more mills

[tepid umbra]

No

[opaque garden]

yes

[tepid umbra]

Make better tanks

[opaque garden]

make more mills

[scenic nacelle]

If it’s 1946 price doesn’t exist

[tepid umbra]

I mean ic

They're only making 30 a day with 150 mils

[scenic nacelle]

Ik what u mean

[tepid umbra]

And they have a 9k defficit

[opaque garden]

with 100 percent efficiency

actually 105 I think

[tepid umbra]

.

[scenic nacelle]

Make another line

For 150 mils

And so on

[opaque garden]

mainly from force attacking in the jungle

[tepid umbra]

Just make cheaper tanks 😭

[opaque garden]

idk why

thought would be a good idea

[tepid umbra]

Cuz they have like no org

And have like 1000 modern tanks each

[opaque garden]

so

your point being?

[tepid umbra]

The tanks suck

[opaque garden]

ok

[tepid umbra]

Making better ones is quick

[opaque garden]

its fine

i can afford them

[tepid umbra]

Cuz you can just modify the divisions

[shrewd rain]

Hey guys so for the last like 5 runs everytime i reach 1945 - 6 or ww2 ends, (basically at late stage) the game just crashes after a certain day. Why, and how to fix?

[tepid umbra]

But it's slow

[opaque garden]

yes

its 46

everything is slow

[tepid umbra]

You can conquer china quickly if you have good tanks

[opaque garden]

nah

[tepid umbra]

And dont attack in the jungle

[opaque garden]

ima conquer murica

still have foothold in canada

[tepid umbra]

China is clearly holding you back for now

You can get both

With good tanks

[opaque garden]

I have like 4/5 of my army there

could easily hold with 1/5 and some tanks to counter naval invasions

cuz i have air

and its all mountain anyways

[foggy mirage]

i really need some help. Im trying to invade USA as mexico. I have way more divisions, but my organization is too low for all of them basically, so i cant invade :((((
How would i increase this?

[neat widget]

low supply?

What does it look like on your end

[foggy mirage]

my supply is a little low near the border, so guess ill try and build some

[neat widget]

Or rather connect the hubs in California to your own rail network first

And also try to make some encirclements if you can

[foggy mirage]

Alright thank you, i will try and see if it works :)

[opaque garden]

oh you haven't seen mu supply in china yet if thats low suplly

[foggy mirage]

Maaaan idk, but this aint going as smothly anymore xd

the f happened man xd, nearly my whole army just got encircled and killed. ill try again

[broken compass]

I thought the german civil war was supposed to be easy 🥀

[stuck garnet]

alright

how did this happen

[pliant condor]

literally everyone

you have seen the 230 factory soviet right?

[broken compass]

idk! I was pushing fine with a battle plan and i look away to close a pocket, the next moment the nazis just melt through my divisions like nothing

[pliant condor]

first don't play on 5 speed

second use your air

[stuck garnet]

yes

[pliant condor]

try again

not super hard

[neat widget]

gah

[stuck garnet]

use your air 100%

air is useful

[neat widget]

no wonder i invaded the soviet union so easily as poland

[pliant condor]

pick infantry advisor if you find it difficult

[sacred patrol]

Can i ask the most asked question in this server

How does the navy work

[pliant condor]

yes

you build ships, put ships into big fleets, big fleets win battle🔥

[sacred patrol]

wb the other steps

[raven mango]

it is better to annex or puppet? when playing a small nation i seen people telling to puppet but i am not lossing the manpower of that country?

[charred fable]

Can someone please for the love of god explain why strike force doesn't work?

[pliant condor]

build dockyards if you don't have any

[pliant condor]

you always annex

to have industry

annex with collabs

[raven mango]

amen

[pliant condor]

put everything on patrol to get supremacy

[charred fable]

I have more than 66% supremacy in both. My strike force still doesn't leave port.

[neat widget]

So each ship has

• a naval supremacy value
• one or more of these damage types
  • light attack
  • heavy attack
  • torpedoes
  • depth charges
• HP and organization
• ship visibility
• a detection value
• possibly some planes

So first thing's first, naval supremacy is something you need to launch naval invasions across a body of water. It is dependent on ic cost, speed, range, heavy attack, and plane capacity. You need a certain amount of it (often 250 or 500, hover over your sea zone) to get dominance, and also more supremacy than any enemies you have in that area

There are three rows of ships in a battle - screens, capital ships, and carriers - plus submarines.

• Light attack hits the first row of ships that is in the battle (so if there are screens it will hit screens, but if there's no screens it may hit capital ships and carriers instead) and has the highest hit rate, making it good at destroying screens and other small ships. However it is less effective against well armored ships
• Heavy attack hits the first two rows of ships (so if there are screens and capital ships, it will hit both, but if there are no screens or if there are no capital ships it will hit carriers too). This is a less accurate weapon but can pierce through armor better than light attack
• Torpedoes hit anything that isn't screened (screening typically requires 3-4 screens per capital ship and carrier, and each carrier requires 1 capital ship). This is the least accurate weapon, making it hard to hit screens but it will sink battleships and carriers if not careful
• Depth charges are the only naval weapon that can target submarines, but they rarely go off anyways because submarines are hard to detect mid-battle

Each ship has a visibility and a hit profile. The higher visibility is, the easier it is to see a ship. The higher your surface detection is, the easier it is for you to see ships. The higher your sub detection... uh... well, this one might be bugged. You can get high surface detection by taking a cruiser and stacking it with radar + floatplane modules

By the way, if you're wondering about planes, they are sort of separate, they ignore the whole screens and columns thing, rely on air detection to see ships, and are overwhelmingly drawn to carriers, followed by capital ships, followed by submarines, and then followed by screens

Also a note about naval invasions: Every naval invasion comes with a 50% amphibious penalty to all stats, and this can be increased by minelaying (although this is a niche mechanic that takes a lot of time and can be more or less ignored). So this is what you have to compensate for when you're designing marine divisions, but you can't get it less than 0%

[charred fable]

I know all this, but I'm telling you that strike force currently is bugged. I have not had it once successfully leave port. I set it to patrol and it left straight away.

[neat widget]

huh

[pliant condor]

don't use a strike force

[pliant condor]

it doesn't leave port because you never spotted an enemy

[lean sandal]

How do i beat the British navy as Italy

[pliant condor]

none of the missions were changed in the new version

[charred fable]

My patrol fleet was actively engaged with the enemy lol

I'm telling you, the enemy fleet was spotted. It told me how many ships, etc.

[pliant condor]

then put your strike force in the patrol

don't use that mission anyway

[pliant condor]

that's not spotted until the progress bar is full

[charred fable]

I did, but all I'm saying is strike force doesn't work and oil is a pain in the rear.

[pliant condor]

if you put your patrol ship on never engage

it will never engage

and your strike force would engage if it's in range

[pliant condor]

it does

[lean sandal]

No matter what i try. I put my ships each either on patrol or strike force and even add AIR SUPPORT to the patrol parts of the ocean i chose

Yet i still get wrecked by the British Navy and loose nearly half of my fleet

(i did train my planes and ships at the start of the game)

[neat widget]

BTW @sacred patrol

[lean sandal]

(all should be veteran levels)

[pliant condor]

it's called

building ships

there's no micro to navy

mission doesn't change anything

[lean sandal]

I do keep building ships

[pliant condor]

except that if you ever split your fleet, you make it weaker

build actual ships

not ai designs

[lean sandal]

I do that

I do build my own designs

[pliant condor]

and as long as you don't split your fleet

[lean sandal]

But they still aint working

[pliant condor]

you would win

split your fleet in half = you destroyed half of your ships

[lean sandal]

My 2 generals had 10/10 ships to command

[pliant condor]

yes that's the issue

it should be one admiral and 1/10

everything in ONE task force

[lean sandal]

oh

[pliant condor]

the rule of navy is that the larger fleet wins

[lean sandal]

that explains why they kept moving to a random ass place everytime

[pliant condor]

make this

[pliant condor]

the first thing you do on any nation with a fleet is you combined everything into 1

and split off the submarines

[lean sandal]

1940 moment

Its too late man

I am just waiting for the fall of france

So that i can take tunisia and go troll the brits in egypt

I do have some things planmed

Planned

Such as invading Gibraltar & Malta

With already trained and prepared divisions

My only issue is

I am a idiot

I did focuses that focused on expansion and not modernizing my Air, Navy or Army

-# i mean i did do some focuses regarding these 3

-# but most of my focuses are either developing land, Conquering land or doing stability stuff

[pliant condor]

all the focus on the diplomacy tree are useless

justify on yugo manually in late 36

[lean sandal]

well shit

[pliant condor]

then when it finishes france cancel their guaranteee

then you annex yugo and romania both with collabs

this give you all your industry and fuel

[lean sandal]

i aint got collabs

[pliant condor]

make 2 collab on romania and yugo

[lean sandal]

I can Only form puppets

[pliant condor]

then you don't get anything

yes that's the worst option

which is why you don't do those focuses

[lean sandal]

hm

I mean the type of mods are kinda

trying to aim for historical accuracy as much as they can

Such as Animated evets

Events

Speeches of diffrent countries

City renaming

RK+ with GEACPS support

Well anyway

Back to the help

Is it Alright if i do like uh

Garrison Divisions

And Diffrent tank divisions

-# light, medium, heavy

[neat widget]

do use the secondary slot though

[pliant condor]

?

oh

wrong screenshot

[lilac umbra]

Hi, I'm new to Hoi4, and I'm wondering how I can make my offensive line as large as it is?

[pliant condor]

somehow i kept copy and pasting from old message

[pliant condor]

it is already

[lilac umbra]

I just have a thin one, and I don't understand when I watch other people's videos.
They have a thin one.

[neat widget]

nicaragua is doomed tbh

just pin that guy east of the lake then you should be able to walk in

[lilac umbra]

No, this is an example of what this arrow should look like.

How to make it so thick?

I have a thin one.

I want her to be as fat as in the first photo.

[stuck garnet]

Confused

[lilac umbra]

Is this a mod?

[neat widget]

It doesn't matter for game purposes

But in the first one the arrow is fat because it is short and attacking along a broad front

[lilac umbra]

Why are they different sizes then?

[neat widget]

In the second you're attacking along a narrow front and attacking far away

[pliant condor]

also yours is a field marshal frontline

the difference is that all divs under the field marshal were used on the fm frontline instead of only a general's

and you don't get organizer trait on your general

[lilac umbra]

In the first photo, the general is attached to the field marshal

[pliant condor]

yes?

so the divisions are under the field marshal frontline

because you draw it with the field marshal

[lilac umbra]

Should I become a general separately?

[pliant condor]

it doesn't matter

[pliant condor]

this is the only difference

but if you draw an empty frontline with the general you would still gain organizer xp

[lilac umbra]

So the arrow depends on the width of the front?

[pliant condor]

no

the arrow look different becasue you draw the frontline with a field marshal

[lilac umbra]

I understand that, but I don't understand why others have thick ones.

[pliant condor]

and in this screenshot it is with a general

[pliant condor]

idk why you bother with thick arrows

[stuck garnet]

Why does it matter😭

Good battleplan = good battleplan

[pliant condor]

obviously if your front is smaller the ui is also scaled to be smaller

[lilac umbra]

So it changes depending on who's drawing it?

[pliant condor]

yes

[lilac umbra]

oh

ok)

ths

[pliant condor]

when you select a general and draw it it's a general frontline, same for fm

[lilac umbra]

thank you very much

[stiff moth]

anyone know of a mod that adds more popup variety without changing major mechanics?

[rich plume]

is this a good tank design? Not sure if 100 army exp is too expensive or not

[stuck garnet]

Idk if you should add

Likee

No templates?

Doctrines?

You havent cheapened mech?

[rich plume]

not sure what do you mean, it's my first game of hoi

[stuck garnet]

are you sure you don't have other things you need to spend your exp on first?

[bleak plinth]

someone send me a good tank design and my life is yours

sorry CHEAP tank design

[stuck garnet]

yeah get 1939 maintennance for easy maintennace

[rich plume]

I don't know

I just completed medium tank research so figured I need to start building them

[narrow grail]

How do I even debug nukes when debug_nuking doesn't exist?

[tribal stratus]

How many losses do I need to deal to the Germans before advancing as Austria

I know it’s a lot

Curenely it’s 10k to 60 k losses

And obviously since I have all defensive stats

Offense is trash

So idk how long do I wait a year or two??

Currently it’s just micro for hours and wait for them to wear themsleves out is that accurate?

[cloud seal]

how do u navel invade now that theyve completely overhaled the navy for some damn reason

[hollow eagle]

How does the new navy work

[glacial steeple]

hoi4

[glacial steeple]

patrol

[glacial steeple]

left click port right click destination enter

[glacial steeple]

no ? you just need good enough units to push

[tribal stratus]

The offensive units needed are hard to get since you spam defense fully

With every single focus and commander being defensively driven

[glacial steeple]

what ideology

[tribal stratus]

Facisit

Current they have 140k losses to my 40k

[glacial steeple]

if youre communist you just make the strongest militias in the game and push with those

[glacial steeple]

just stack attack buffs its worth a lot more

[tribal stratus]

But then you can’t rlly annex those other nations than can you? Hungary, Czechs etc.

as communist Austria

[glacial steeple]

okay so what

you annex germany

[tribal stratus]

You need those for ur army

[glacial steeple]

no

[tribal stratus]

interesting

Maybe I’ll try that next game

for now I annexed everything

And I am just holding the line

[glacial steeple]

you get like 30% militia attack from advisors and stuff

and then all the doctrine buffs

[tribal stratus]

Interesting

Alright

For now I’m just trying to survive

[neat widget]

I'm not sure you can add militias to the division though

so you're stuck with 12-width militias

[glacial steeple]

but theyre OP

they were OP before update

theyre just stronger now

[tribal stratus]

rn it’s just rough I’m just holding them out and microing

Pretty boring

If I tried to attack I’d lose it all

So I gotta wait until their economy is done I

Maybe by 41

[glacial steeple]

idk what youre doing but you shouldnt be that weak

[tribal stratus]

I’m not that weak, I’m fine.

I’m simply holding them off

[glacial steeple]

you sound pretty weak

[tribal stratus]

If I tried to attack though it wouldn’t go well

[glacial steeple]

3/1 k/d on the defensive kinda sucks

[tribal stratus]

it’s about 1/4 now

[glacial steeple]

thats like whats considered fine irl to push

[tribal stratus]

If I sent any troops it would be over and they’d die

[rapid urchin]

august 37 and my china war isnt going great...

lost 100k men and i only been able to inflct 200k

[glacial steeple]

that looks very pushable to me

standardize your templates into 1

[tribal stratus]

I have 8 infa templates

With engineer and recon

[glacial steeple]

just change your units to 1 type

engineer kinda sucks

[rapid urchin]

@pliant condor i havent had a lot of sucess using your strat

[tribal stratus]

The bonuses were very useful

[glacial steeple]

recon also kinda sucks unless its pioneers

[rapid urchin]

its kinda werid in some ways unless im doing it wrong

[glacial steeple]

its just rlly expensive

[tribal stratus]

Should I add support artillery?

[glacial steeple]

yeah

[tribal stratus]

Alright then

[rapid urchin]

big divs arent even able to push these titles of chinesse..

kinda hate how paradox just "buffed" china by giving it so many more divs

[glacial steeple]

have you tried locking in making encirclements and just capping warlords

itll give gun

[rapid urchin]

i got one warlord but i didnt get any encirclments because of chinese AI

[glacial steeple]

then you get the collab event after you cap china, you click on make the puppet (EVENT)

then annex the puppet

[rapid urchin]

and the other one just got annexed

[glacial steeple]

now you have full compliance on all

[rapid urchin]

yeah

but the china war is supposed to take about 6 months if im doing it correctly

[glacial steeple]

just annex all warlords thats like most of their army

its free guns

like you get guns they lose units

[tepid umbra]

Are rangers not good?

[glacial steeple]

yeah thats what i meant

im a bit stupid

[rapid urchin]

guns isnt my problem tbh

[glacial steeple]

it is

you always want more units

[tepid umbra]

Are pioneers still good tho

[glacial steeple]

uuhh theyre ok

not on inf obviously

[rapid urchin]

okay

[glacial steeple]

35 support equipment

[rapid urchin]

also annoying me heavily in the north ...

like can manchu units do anything!?!?!?

@glacial steeple should my china war be over in like 6 months if i do it correctly?

because i try to declare on china in about one year and i can never get enough military equipment out

[tepid umbra]

Don't rely on the AI

Good way to get encircled

[rapid urchin]

even with a ton of factorys

[rapid urchin]

i have control over them

[tepid umbra]

My point stands

[rapid urchin]

yeah fair

[tepid umbra]

You're relying on AI designs

They suck

[rapid urchin]

but north isnt my main problem

more like an annoyance

[tepid umbra]

It is based on those bubbles

[rapid urchin]

so?

[tepid umbra]

If the north loses then your troops get encircled (although you do have ports

[rapid urchin]

yeah but its not like theyll take anything important

also

[wild rune]

Are rangers or Armored recon better?

[rapid urchin]

if i can get the freaking south moving

theyll stop attacking

[tepid umbra]

Depends on the division

[tepid umbra]

What do your tanks look like

And what do your infantry look like

[wild rune]

I should have expected this😭

[rapid urchin]

i only have one "tank" and thats being very generous

[tepid umbra]

I think rangers are best when you have a division below ranger speed

[tepid umbra]

Remember that tanks are what make pushes usually

[rapid urchin]

this is my main infantry template

but i do have the default hohei template divs

[tepid umbra]

Damn

[wild rune]

Amazing defensive template gng👍

[tepid umbra]

Get more infantry in there

[rapid urchin]

again

[tepid umbra]

Good garrison but bad offensive

[rapid urchin]

then what should i use for my offensive divs?

[wild rune]

Higher width

[rapid urchin]

because if i try to use those i cant get enough guns in one year

[wild rune]

Like 36w inf would be better

[tepid umbra]

Tanks or infsntry with way more batallions

[rapid urchin]

to fully equip them

[tepid umbra]

Have less divisions then idk

Or you can juet have like a 24 width or smth