ask-for-help-here

[wild rune]

So long as you maintain air superiority it doesn't

[stuck garnet]

soo ig i'm like

set?

idk what else to do other than grind mils and like

do special projects

i might start researching navy cause bored

I haven't added on support companies, and i think i put on too much mech (I know the width is too low btw)

can i have like help with this template? Would it be cheaper to start from scratch?

like idk

just confused

will wait untill i have more army exp idk

[neat widget]

add support companies

and another battalion or two

[stuck garnet]

yeah ik i was like

out of combat exp

[neat widget]

oh

you should be fine though

[stuck garnet]

i think i've like uhh
I think i've researched armored supports i just needa produce specialized military vehicles or whatever

no i have not

[dry vapor]

Hi Guys, I’m playing a playthrough as Sinkiang Ma, (formable for Khotan Ma) and I need faction influence to usurp nationalist China. What’s the best way of gaining faction influence?

[stuck garnet]

is this good?

is this good

(I got bored and researched a bit of navy)

[uncut tartan]

guys, what are the requirements for a white peace with japan? in all my three runs as communist china japan doesnt peace out after i conquered all of the mainland. i thought they fixed this? or is there just something i am missing?

[glacial steeple]

you can only do that as the kmt i believe

[glacial steeple]

no

[uncut tartan]

why doesnt the kmt do it then? it should be for all the united front, right?

[glacial steeple]

Light gun 3 and 4 are bad

[glacial steeple]

idk ai stuff

[stuck garnet]

?

[glacial steeple]

they have an increased steel cost until you get to the autoloaded one

so never ever use them

you will not have the steel

[uncut tartan]

i even tried giving the kmt all of manchuria and korea and they still didnt do shit

[uncut tartan]

aynway, thanks for your help. just something the devs have to keep working on ig

[glacial steeple]

peace was never an option i guess

try using air

the soviets will let you license stuff so you dont have to research

[muted ore]

Good Morning, I was playing new Japan content yesterday in latest version 1.17.1.1 as usual. This morning I try to load back in, but the save displays old version and is not loadable. No patch was installed in between. Save just does not work

anybody got some advice?

loading menu

[stuck garnet]

is this a good template

[real fable]

Ok so idek what happened but seems like the AI broke on my ironman game, germany not pushing into france (no french troops in the maginot even) not pushing into poland, not into me (denmark) aswell. Its 1940 and spanish civil war is nowhere close to ending

[sour mountain]

questuin
can i still somehow get my troops in anatolia

[neat widget]

you have flame tanks?

[neat widget]

is there enemy ships in the bosphorus?

[neon girder]

Is this good @glacial steeple

[neat widget]

what is?

[neon girder]

sorry forgot pic

[neat widget]

okay the flame tank isn't bad tbh

although by 1942you should try getting radio 3

copilot please go away

[plucky otter]

Why are you making light tanks and the crappy planes?

[stuck garnet]

yeah

[neon girder]

for air and tanks

[stuck garnet]

i have them

i just like forgot to make them

[sour mountain]

no

[plucky otter]

Just wait for mediums and the better plane

You can rush the better plane as germany aswell

[neon girder]

Usaly if i do that i have them by 1940

[plucky otter]

You got research bonuses in the focus tree that are very worth

Thats why you do the focuses that give you research bonuses

You can get them way faster

[neon girder]

Okay boss

[rustic acorn]

hehehe

[plucky otter]

And with tanks

[rustic acorn]

well, that fighters with an additional MG is not bad and cheap

[plucky otter]

You can start researching mediums day one with mio and have them pretty fast aswell

[rustic acorn]

those light tanks work well in poland and rance

[plucky otter]

The starting german light tanks are pretty bad

and not really worth using

when you can just rush mediums

[boreal hamlet]

If you're playing single [layer, you only need light tanks

[plucky otter]

What

Single layer

[boreal hamlet]

single player

[plucky otter]

Light tanks will work sure

But they are still bad

[pliant condor]

no

20 on gun

[plucky otter]

Everything works in sp because ai is bad

[pliant condor]

delete all the starting air line

[pliant condor]

this is specifically bad because without 20 on gun you won't get anschluss in mid 36

but even more generally the starting air production is useless

only air you could justify making day 1 is CAS

same for light tanks

[boreal hamlet]

What 20 on gun for Anchluss?

[plucky otter]

20 on gun day 1 as germany is a must if you are rushing austria

Which is something you should really always do

[boreal hamlet]

I get in in 1936 and I just make about 80 or so on my single cavalry garrison template. I thought that's why Rhineland focus gave you the 5 army exp.

you can do Anschluss as 4th or 5ht focus doing it that way

[glacial steeple]

uuuhh

i wouldnt do that\

but its probably fine

[glacial steeple]

you start with mediums

[glacial steeple]

use your research bonuses...

[neon girder]

Will this rush modern air frames?

[plucky otter]

I forgot about the interwar mediums tbh

[pliant condor]

yes that's what you do

[pliant condor]

no

this means "when you research modern airframe this design will be spawned for you"

obviously you are never going to get modern airframe

[neon girder]

I se

Can i modify the varient?

[boreal hamlet]

you have to open the list of ewuipment and then open teh rifle and add the MIO to it

[neat widget]

yeah you can actually press the edit button on infantry equipment like you can on tanks, planes, or naval ships

thing is the only thing you can do is add mios

some equipment you can click the edit button but there are no options to edit (looking at super-heavy howitzer rn)

[neon girder]

GIVE ME TANKS

[hasty mist]

How on earth do I do paradrops?

[crude pelican]

my game isn't starting and i already tried all of the things that should fix it

can someone help me

[hasty mist]

Mods off? Tried reinstalling?

[glacial steeple]

have transport planes in airfield, select paratrooper, left click airfield, right click destination, click enter

[hasty mist]

(Some weird glitches w mods recently, they don't work at all)

[hasty mist]

When I try this it does uhh.. this.

[glacial steeple]

read the red text

[hasty mist]

It has the transport planes.

[glacial steeple]

try redeploying

delete and remake wing

also

wing needs to NOT be on ANY orders

[hasty mist]

ohhhh

[glacial steeple]

your transport planes seem to be on an order

[hasty mist]

OHHHH

Thanks

[wintry haven]

Rookie numbers, was doing 120 a day in USSR for Modern Tanks

[neon girder]

It was 1936

[wintry haven]

Maybe 40 a day then for USSR

Well more probably because only Light tanks

[neon girder]

those gota have been trash tho right?

[wintry haven]

Vs Modern Tanks

[wintry haven]

Vs AI? Light tanks will touch them

[wintry haven]

You only need Light tanks against AI

[wintry haven]

What country is this?

[neon girder]

germany

[wintry haven]

Germany

I am so special

Sorry

I didn’t even read equipment ames

[wintry haven]

Personally I would get rid of Naval bomber, not needed rn, and take 2 off of Support equipment and put 2 on Artillery, put 4 on Anti Air and 4 more on Infantry Equipment

[neon girder]

I need to kill uk navy shortly

[glacial steeple]

you wont

[hasty mist]

Why is it doing this now?

It said it at 73 transport wings

And it still says it at 100

[verbal flax]

What does movement do?

[glacial steeple]

youre trying to launch with 2 divisions on 1 order i think

limit it to 1 per order

[hasty mist]

oh

[glacial steeple]

makes you move faster

[inner sparrow]

that what it says

hey casuh

https://tenor.com/view/cats-gif-26546344

[glacial steeple]

is that the engineer doctrine

[verbal flax]

so just a max speed buff?

[inner sparrow]

it is

its jon don his fav doctrine

[glacial steeple]

true

[crude pelican]

reinstalling worked

[spiral delta]

can anyone give me like the best template for german reich?

[hasty mist]

Depends on your tactics.

[spiral delta]

aggressive ig just take over everything

[hasty mist]

So fast ig?

[spiral delta]

fast and like high attack good stats

[pliant condor]

no it's a speed modifier

[spiral delta]

im kinda new so my templates suck

[spiral crag]

How do i play USA

Btw i dont have any dlc's expect for man the guns

[livid cedar]

whats yalls fav country to play and why

[unique ingot]

I have 2 million casulaties while germany only have 500k what am i doing wrong

[verbal flax]

what country are you playing

[glacial steeple]

show game

:3

[verbal flax]

soviets or japan probably

italy also nice

[rustic acorn]

most probaly you lack of equip

[unique ingot]

troksyist russia

[unique ingot]

i lost

[arctic ruin]

I NEED HELP

AQHHHHHHHHHHHH

[unique ingot]

had like 20k in stockpiles

[glacial steeple]

just make screenshots?

load save?

[verbal flax]

how did ur divisions look

[red mesa]

Screenshots the game over screen 💀

[unique ingot]

the template?

[verbal flax]

yea

[red mesa]

If you want help we need actual info

[unique ingot]

i didnt touch that all

[fair hare]

truthnuke

[verbal flax]

maybe thats the reason you lost

idk how base soviet templates look but that doesnt sound good

[fair hare]

yep

[glacial steeple]

still gives info

[unique ingot]

anyone know a good soviet template for german war?

infantry and tanks

[glacial steeple]

we're looking at a solid 600 pp unspent 1942 trotsky 5 speed loss

playing harder ussr path and ignoring half the game is certainly a choice

[red mesa]

Betting no 5YP and no eco

[glacial steeple]

well, no

trotsky has no eco anyway

[unique ingot]

i already got most of the leaders and stuff dont know what else to spend the pp on

[glacial steeple]

it relies on getting gun 3 in 39

and then taking advantage of early IC

or taking advantage of quick offensive wars in general

you cant just sit it out and play passively like stalin because you will die

[fair hare]

thats why i love stalin

in the game of course

[unique ingot]

i wanted to get rid of stalin in hopes of getting rid of the purges

[fair hare]

just do the purge focuses

its not that bad

[glacial steeple]

well yeah you did that

but you scale much worse and really rely on playing proactively, aggressively

[verbal flax]

im not that great in hoi4 but couldnt he just do 18 width inf spam and win

[glacial steeple]

trotsky gaming

[unique ingot]

console commands

[glacial steeple]

no, ironman

[fair hare]

i usually spam 400-500 18 widths and get some tanks

the world record is like 1937 and with trotsky no?

[unique ingot]

then how the hell did u do it by 1937?

[fair hare]

im pretty sure the world record is like may 37 or smth like that

[unique ingot]

pretty sure by the time the war goals are finished its already 1937

[fair hare]

thats why u have to be fast

trust

[glacial steeple]

not me

it was a server challenge though

its just showing how stupid strong trotsky is

but you just cannot play passively

[fair hare]

i think it was pidgyn who set the record

[glacial steeple]

yeah thats not a world record run just the most accessible

and without paratroopers

[unique ingot]

well i tried to invade tannu tuva mongolia romania and hungary and finland but most of them joined a faction before i could declare war exept finaldn and tannu tuva

didnt let me annex tannu tuva via focus

for some reason

[glacial steeple]

go for poland, germany

romania

france

[unique ingot]

poland was already split up from molotov rippentrov pact

[glacial steeple]

then youre slow :>

[unique ingot]

france is part of the allies

[glacial steeple]

yeah

[unique ingot]

i dont want to fight germany and allies at the same time

[glacial steeple]

SSSR kinda sucks into the 40s

your scaling is just so bad

[unique ingot]

its usually 1938 or 1939 by the time the civil war is over

i tend to get all the focuses

that help me in the civil war

[glacial steeple]

normal USSR plays easier

i will say

[fair hare]

js do stalin

[verbal flax]

is there a way as mao china to leave the united front while being in war?

nvm found it

[fluid wharf]

the challeneges are very sad on timed runs

they al devolves to 16w inf spam

because the ai is so shit

[stable olive]

Hey, I formed european federative state as germany and I just can't get enough coal. Im on civilian economy, inporting coal from literally everyone and even used cheats to close my exports and it's still not enough. Is there anything I can do?

[glacial steeple]

16w inf is good

[primal moon]

did you find the answer to this?

we arent even at war yet

good carrier design?

im refitting the old british ones

[hollow linden]

Nah, coal is a restarted mechanic

[spiral crag]

is this good for light cruser

ok

[glass mason]

Is there a bug here? Am I not supposed to get 100pp from this? I got 0, all other rewards triggered normally.

[fluid wharf]

but u cant do funnny focus stuffs 🙁

[fluid wharf]

no

ur using heavy cannons

use light medium

[spiral crag]

why

[fluid wharf]

because u use this to kill ur enemy screens fast

and once enemy screen die

their flagship also dies easily

[spiral crag]

ok

[glacial steeple]

my game save just died i think

it has consistently crashed on day tick

[fluid wharf]

and thats called a heavy cruiser

not light

[fluid wharf]

how

is someone capping

[glacial steeple]

its probably the war

+reloading save

[fluid wharf]

or a buggy focus

[glacial steeple]

no

those have been done

[fluid wharf]

from the ai

[glacial steeple]

its 1959 theyve done all focuses they can

[fluid wharf]

oh

[edgy pendant]

No because this is a heavy cruiser not a light cruiser

[spiral crag]

ok murkesha already told me

[inner sparrow]

never trust murkesha

he sold me fent

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240795641181900883/1312622161097392168/caption.gif

[calm forge]

Should I produce civs as Poland early game, maybe like 6? I plan on doing polish Lithuania and always find myself having too many mills and not enough land forts for Germany and soviets

[inner sparrow]

theres never enough mils

and u dont need land forts

what u need is guns and all ur mp deployed

[calm forge]

I run out of resources when I have too many mills

[inner sparrow]

buy resources

[calm forge]

And I play on rt56 which basically stacks debuff against Poland

I could buy resources but then I wouldn’t have enough civs for anything else, so I think it’s better to produce more civs first so I can use land forts

[cold bloom]

The Poland debuffs arent that bad

[inner sparrow]

again why do u want land forts, u dotn need them

and if u run out of rec or civs, get them in other ways, kill ger

ger will attack you in 39 if u play hist so go and kill them

[calm forge]

Your right but I find myself needing land forts at the start of the war before blitzkrieg debuff ends

[inner sparrow]

its ai ger

u can one shot it

[cold bloom]

Eeeh

Your border is very long, you probably shouldnt try to hold it firstly

[calm forge]

Do I make tanks? I sometimes use anti tank but anti air should be fine against the early german med tanks

[cold bloom]

Can probably build a fortline/sit behind some rivers

[cold bloom]

Tanks need like 5-10 factories at least so I like to stabilize the situation first with infantry (with AA support) and then build tanks for the counterattack

[calm forge]

So forts? It’s just with the pushing behind a river, I lose a territory which basically contains all my resources and industry

I’ve been thinking of leaving the north west but it also contains a lot of resources/industry

[cold bloom]

mhm

[calm forge]

The war is basically unbeatable with infantry equipment being used which I cannot replace, attrition gets too bad

[cold bloom]

Attrition from Germany or supply?

[calm forge]

Germany

[cold bloom]

Oh ok good

[rustic panther]

Usually, at least for me
The first step Is Always securing myself from defeat
So make enough infantry, with AA if you can't afford fighters (if you are using any improved ai mod you probably won't) so that you can't be pushed

Then a good thing is trying to even out the playing field, so try to take out eastern Prussia and the units there, those lads are getting Dunkirk'd whether they like it or not

Then the idea Is Always the same, push on a narrow front and encircle. Ideally in good terrain

[edgy pendant]

I remember that

[rustic panther]

Since you're playing Poland
Get anything you can that gives more manpower
Usually this means doctrines

Since an important part of the game is also holding in this case, go for some infantry with entrenchment or soft attack
Realistically German tanks will suffer from your AA and that will be it

[calm forge]

This could work but idk about the start, I always get pushed back too far where I just lose my org and get farmed. I’ve tried falling back but I lose the war of attrition because half my industry is gone. The thing that kills me the most is the naval invasions

[calm forge]

Yeah the manpower is horrible

[rustic panther]

When do you start building mils?

[rustic panther]

Yeah no if there's anything that you could give up, it would be eastern Poland, cause less industry n stuff
Not western Poland, never western poland

[calm forge]

Usually instantly because I like to go polish-Lithuania and get revenge on the Russians and prussians, soviets and Germans

[inner sparrow]

what are ur templates that ur getting pushed that badly or do u have no combat modifiers stacked? Also for naval invasion just have some cheap inf div stand there and last stand them when getting naval invaded, they wont be able to land and as ai doesnt wave they will never land with it

[calm forge]

This is so real, like a quarter of my industry and all of my resources are in one state 😭

[rustic panther]

You fall back from territory that
-Puts you in a bad position
-Is of no value

[calm forge]

I never get enough military experience to change them, so it’s always 9 infantry 1 artillery which I usually remove the artillery battalion before the war

[inner sparrow]

u should get enough in time tho, u have 3 years time just pick army guy for army xp early and let him do his work

[calm forge]

I forgot to ask but is it line AA or support AA I should be using?

[rustic panther]

Tell you what
If you want I can hop in the vc and show you? I'll need the mod list

Support if possible

[inner sparrow]

both is good but use sup aa for ur inf divs

[rustic panther]

Army guy is usually a great first pp pick
What do you spend your political power on?

[calm forge]

I spend my pp usually straight away on partial mobilisation

[inner sparrow]

depends on nation and I play mostly hmm where army guy isnt that important early bc of peace time training

[edgy pendant]

As who

[inner sparrow]

tho changed with new update

[rustic panther]

Asking @calm forge Regarding his Poland games

[calm forge]

I dont rlly have the time for that since I’ve got an early morning tmrw, I js thought I’d ask before I try tmrw again

[inner sparrow]

did murksha also sell u fent fr

[rustic panther]

Valid question
I was asking @calm forge Tho

[inner sparrow]

u pinged me so I answered lmao

[rustic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/our-brains-are-silly-our-brains-are-goofy-our-brains-are-gooby-our-brains-are-our-brains-are-shrinking-gif-2919126847622854677

[edgy pendant]

Ketamine

[calm forge]

Uh so is army guy best pick or partial mobilisation?

For Poland

[inner sparrow]

evil

[edgy pendant]

Partial better first

[calm forge]

When playing polish Lithuania, I only really get to pick one advisor before having to do Lithuania decisions, so in this case is army guy or partial mobilisation better?

After that I’ve got maybe a year and a half before war

[rustic panther]

Partial first
Pp second

Army buffs are only relevant when you are fighting, so you can get the high command in 39

Not a good idea to civ greed as Poland, so stop by Jan 1 37 and do mils at worst

[rustic panther]

Army

Because you'll get a slightly bigger industry from Lithuania
Still important that you do mobilize tho

[lucid torrent]

Man, they should add more coal to more place, but still i think the punishment threshold for coal is not enough,I think they should get nasty around 200-300 factories.

[calm forge]

So is civ greeding still needed with the baltics?

[calm forge]

Oh really? I thought the industry build up would be much better considering the +30% civ construction

[rustic panther]

On the contrary
The sooner you go to war the less you can civ greed
The more in danger you are the less you can civ greed

As Poland
You are the first to go to war
And the first to get smashed
So civ greeding is bad

As the UK, sure, you go to war in 39, but you're relatively untouchable, you can (not in ultra sweaty lobbies or whatever) but you can realistically afford to spend say, 6 more months on civs and not suffer

[rustic panther]

Sure but
If you can't afford to change your templates or get your doctrines, all that industry is gonna be a lot less useful
Might be a good idea to see if you can get some more pp tho
I haven't played that Poland path in a while, but I find it hard to believe that annexing Lithuania is such a pp sink

[calm forge]

Do you know how many civs it would be to 1937 (including infrastructure)

[calm forge]

yeah 😭 is like min 100-200 if u wanna get it asap

[rustic panther]

No clue
What do you mean including infrastructure?

Homie we in Poland, the roads have holes and we'll use them as foxholes 😭

[calm forge]

So no infrastructure 😔

I can’t go without infrastructure

It’s like my comfort buddy

[rustic panther]

Bruh you'll be getting comforted by some German tanks if you waste your time building infra
(Personal opinion, I'd actually love to know some other more meta players's opinion on this)

[calm forge]

I had a big argument with someone earlier about it, they said it’s basically useless compared to civs and mills

[edgy pendant]

Even civs are typically useless to build

[rustic panther]

Not useless
Just
You need to build it on states that have a lot of construction slots for it to pay off
Usually the us, UK, ger and sometimes sov can build it

Poland? Not particularly

[glacial steeple]

not real

[inner sparrow]

even more useless now with recent change

[inner sparrow]

theres a lot of countries that build infra

and like to build it

prob even more now if u have concentrated coal in one state

[calm forge]

Thank u guys for helping a lot, I’ll try this stuff tmrw cuz it’s getting late for me rn I have one more question tho about Poland and its manpower problems, since it starts with gbp doctrine, should I switch to mass assault for more benefits?

[inner sparrow]

are u playing on old patch

[rustic panther]

Respectfully disagree
Most nations, especially Poland, will run out of resources fairly quickly
That's when the buffer of civs you build will be spent on: trading for resources while you keep on Building mils

Also civs give you the flexibility to react to changes
Need airports? Ports? Supply/railways?
Who you gonna call?
Civ factories

[inner sparrow]

or with new doctrines?

[calm forge]

New doctrines

[inner sparrow]

change to sfp

[calm forge]

What 😭

[inner sparrow]

mass assault is bad with new doctrines and gbp is only for attacking

[calm forge]

Sfp is meta now

[inner sparrow]

sfp gives best stats for inf yes

[rustic panther]

Entire of excel sheets of calculations are crying rn

[ornate jackal]

why cant i enter mediterranean sea

[glacial steeple]

yoyu need army foer doctrine pre war now

[rustic panther]

Yeah
You were answering my message about infra?

Ah you mean there's an even bigger incentive to build mils now, to build up the army and get xp

Yeah actually true af, didn't think about it too much

Another reason why Poland does not benefit from infra

[spiral crag]

is it smart to put always engage

[rustic panther]

It means that no matter what they find they'll always try to fight it

Albanian navy? Dead
The combined might of the Allied fleet? Submarine promotion for your entire fleet

Not great unless you know what you're doing
If you are fighting an enemy that is inferior to you regarding navy, sure go for it

[glacial steeple]

retreat = death

[calm forge]

Pretty sure you need to set something like a home port somewhere in the Mediterranean, since it’s at places like big port cities it’s usually there, just change it to somewhere else

[spiral crag]

well im fighting the entier british and USA navy amoung others

[rustic panther]

Wait engagement rules also dictate retreat chance? Wasn't it like, a fixed value changed by a few traits and techs?

[spiral crag]

it was at medium risk and everything that was spotted was dead

[rustic panther]

But what did they spot?
Realistically I'd wager convoy escorts

[spiral crag]

heavy crusers light crusers destroyers and planes

[glacial steeple]

auto retreat is very bad

[edgy pendant]

What does mass assault give again now?

[glacial steeple]

2% reinfrorce

[edgy pendant]

Desperate defense subdoctrine gives everything good it use to have right?

[glacial steeple]

no

just 5% mp

[spiral crag]

btw this is my navy

[calm forge]

I’d just keep it always engage, only on waters at your borders (don’t u dare put it on the English Channel or anywhere near it), since u got carriers it should be good for naval supremacy and destroying small parts of each countries navy, do the same with ur patrol too

[glacial steeple]

im struggling ttpo type rn sdo sorry for short responses

[edgy pendant]

Heavy cruisers?

[calm forge]

😔

[spiral crag]

i dont use it

[calm forge]

😔

[rustic panther]

Looks good? I'm not a navy man sadly

[edgy pendant]

Really all you need are carrier 2s, SHBBs and light cruisers

[rustic panther]

Light cruisers might still be better

[spiral crag]

why should i i have 2 cariers 9 SHBB 10 light cruisers and 50 destroyers and subs

[edgy pendant]

They are 💯

[ornate jackal]

i dont understand what your saying where i s the set home port

i managed to actually send a task force to dock at this port in italy but it wont operate in surrounding seas...

[calm forge]

They are apparently the new meta in navy I’ve heard, light cruisers and beat down BBs still mog tho

[spiral crag]

imam put it at high risk and tell you guys later

[edgy pendant]

? You should have 5 carriers

[ornate jackal]

do ports in countries that are in my axis not allow me to operate in those seas?

[spiral crag]

was to lazy to make 5

[edgy pendant]

That’s most you can have without penalties if you know how to stock them correctly

[ornate jackal]

i dont understand why i can dock there but not operate in surrounding seas

[calm forge]

When clicking on your navy admirals, under them there should be a name of a port, which if you click will say set home base

It’s to the left of select all

It’s so funny how this chat went from military to navy so quickly

[ornate jackal]

ah i see now!!! "automate home base" button that looks like gear

[edgy pendant]

My man, navy is part of the military

[calm forge]

Yep and next to that if there’s a button where you can set it specifically to ports

[calm forge]

Yk what I mean tho, army to navy

[spiral crag]

i think i killed everything or most of it

my navy is just doing nothing

[opaque garden]

holy encirclement

idk im considering either attacking the allies or comintern

what should I do

[calm forge]

0% stability 😭

[spiral crag]

well that is the entier brittish navy

[glacial steeple]

control means occupy

[opaque garden]

buddy do u know how anarchist Spain works😭 😭 😭

[calm forge]

Yeah it was just funny

[opaque garden]

byw bye germany

yoinked all the coal provinces

all I could afford

[calm forge]

Poor Poland

[distant aspen]

oh really... thanks 🙁 that's not the news I hoped to hear 😅

[opaque garden]

why is coming some provinces 50 whilst others 150

[pallid iris]

Need to make a tank div template for 1939 ger this is the design im using

[noble summit]

when i look at Hungary through the selection screen, it's supposed to have the Gombos Trade Treaty modifier, yet when i start a game with it, it's just not there, does anyone know why that might be happening?

[tidal mist]

.

[wet topaz]

Do you have the dlc

Gotterdamurng

[noble summit]

nope

[wet topaz]

Because you are also missing like 2-3 other national spirits

That’s why

[noble summit]

then why does it show up in the country selection screen?

[jolly harness]

guys whats the meta for doctrines now

[wet topaz]

Because paradox

[wet topaz]

Is that henshel? (The mio)

It looks different now

[wet topaz]

I’m not entirely sure, but based on my own gameplay GBP as main

for arty the one that gives -0.8 cw seems really good

[jolly harness]

i mean the sub

[wet topaz]

For operations the one that gives max planning

[livid cedar]

how to get a better breakthough?

breakthru

yes

[wet topaz]

Infantry idek, I think the field engineering one is good

But they are all kinda mid

And for the tank one I always do the tank destroyer one because I do mp

[pallid iris]

Yes

[wet topaz]

But there’s also one that buffs hp a ton

[jolly harness]

how bout the soft attack for tank

[wet topaz]

Yeah that probably works

I haven’t played too much so I can’t say it’s the best but just what I usually use

[dusty sandal]

1 - don't make TDs in singleplayer
2 - you don't need any armor upgrades, speed is up to you
3 - always use automatic guns/close support gun/howitzers. No point in using anything else since hard atk is useless in singleplayer
4 - otherwise good design

[pallid iris]

with that in mind how should i make the template

[dusty sandal]

basically, you should change the armament,
Keep the tank designation as a medium tank or a SPG (depending on what doctrine you pick) note : if you make it a SPG, you'll need some armor ticks for breakthrough. Aim for 25 at minimum
speed is up to you
you can swap the secondary canons for secondary HMG, it cost less and gives almost the same amount of soft atk

[pallid iris]

the template, not the design

[dusty sandal]

oh, make it 8 mech and 10 tanks/spg
in support company, ideally you'll want medium flame tank (watch their speed, if too low it caps the whole div's) ; engineers (upgrade following your doctrine buffs) ; hospital, support AA
then you can choose between logi, recon rangers (caps the div speed at 6.4km/h) or signal company (for doctrine buffs only)

[pallid iris]

thanks

[swift sonnet]

That exploit where you spam 1-width infantry, then convert them into 40-width divisions without equipment essentially creating manpower only units. How effective are they as a last-ditch defensive tactic for the Soviet Union? Has anyone tested?

Isn't it just a big block of HP then? I presume Manpower is the stats for HP?

[dusty sandal]

it's a big block of HP with no stats. It's basically a last resort to get emergency divs but they won't be good, you'll lose a lot doing so if the enemy can push you

it can become a death spiral

[swift sonnet]

Yeah, it's basically just a big block of 100 Infantry Equipment and 40 000 Manpower. Is it worth just pushing out as a desperate meassure? Does Germany actually suffer more equipment losses just beating on it since it raw HP unit with basically no equipment? has anyone dug into it a bit?

[dusty sandal]

you won't have any stats except HP
those units will always lose in combat and will suffer crits. This means you'll lose a lot of equipment regardless of HP
It's only worth as a last resort to avoid constant snaking in empty frontlines but it's the only use

[glacial steeple]

it wont rlly work

i mean your equipment losses will be a bit lower because higher hp but youll have no stats, no org because fewer units in combat

and theyll just kind of die

are you fighting the ai or a player

[swift sonnet]

Does the unit disband once it reaches 0 Infantry equipment? Or is it possible to just have raw 40 000 block manpower div lmao

[glacial steeple]

a player shouldnt struggle to push inf

[glacial steeple]

yes it dies

you typically run out of other stats first

when 0 org it either is forced to retreat to a tile or dies

if it reaches 0 manpower or equipment it also dies

[brazen lantern]

Is there some place that explains the ratios and effectiveness of supply ships and repair ships? (i.e. how many needed in a fleet of 10 vs 20 ships, do they affect capital ships more than screens, etc...)

Google has not helped me..

[night temple]

any tips on how to cap China early?

[glacial steeple]

move forwards, not backwards

as japan or communist china or kumul khanate or as who

[opaque garden]

how do i get my house support up

i want more house support

[static turret]

farm subsidies or lobbyng effort

or special measures

[night temple]

as japan

[opaque garden]

ik buy my senate support

I maxed

i dont wanna waste it

[static turret]

well you kind have to

[glacial steeple]

veery time you cap a warlord you get guns and a part of the chinese army vanishes

[opaque garden]

by not gaining anything in the senate

[static turret]

I dont think there even is an option for only house

maybe trough one of the many events

[opaque garden]

aghhhhhhhhhhhhh

[static turret]

but nothing you can do witouth luck I think

correct me if im wrong the 5k hour players

[glacial steeple]

just keep clicking lobbying efforts lol

[night temple]

so how early should i declare?

[opaque garden]

im trying to do space marines anyone got a good template?

[glacial steeple]

ASAP

why wait?

less civs less mils

[static turret]

I go 9 inf one aa medium tank and 2 art (im gonna get absolutely cooked for using this template)

[glacial steeple]

chinese army will get equipped

youre not gonna outscale china

[opaque garden]

nah why mediums broski

heavy

[night temple]

should i focus mills off start or have civs?

[static turret]

cheaper

you need

ALOT

for marines

[opaque garden]

im playing usa

[glacial steeple]

idk do what you want

[static turret]

oh yeah

[opaque garden]

i have infinite factories

[glacial steeple]

starting mils are mostly sufficieny

[static turret]

but its still gonna be alot

[glacial steeple]

release palau and any island nations as puppets

korea optional but useful

taiwan probably not but could too

[static turret]

you can use those factories for planes or just better tanks for actual tank divs

[opaque garden]

idc bout air

[glacial steeple]

they will do mil focuses and give free mils

[opaque garden]

uk should be enough

[glacial steeple]

you dont

[static turret]

never trust ai

[glacial steeple]

the US is like really poor

[edgy pendant]

You should

[glacial steeple]

every US mil is like half a german mil

and your only good buffs are on air

[opaque garden]

why?

[edgy pendant]

Efficiency cap

[static turret]

because of all the german production buffs

[opaque garden]

aint it 100 for everyone

[edgy pendant]

No

[glacial steeple]

50 at game start

[edgy pendant]

Germany and Soviets can get like 120-140%

[glacial steeple]

and also then not for all

theres also other output buffs

[opaque garden]

ik but like 5 research all plus 10

[glacial steeple]

germany gets a lot

the US gets like none

[static turret]

focus buffs

[edgy pendant]

Germany and Sov get more from focus tree

[opaque garden]

you know what

ima just not army at all then

Just make massive navy and wait it out

[edgy pendant]

US is only super nation that doesn’t get above 100% without mios

[opaque garden]

what about baguette

[glacial steeple]

uk too i think?

[glacial steeple]

france gets pretty good buffs

[opaque garden]

they have like the inefficient economy thingy

[edgy pendant]

I don’t consider them a super nation normally

Just a major nation

[glacial steeple]

largest empire in the world

okay

[edgy pendant]

Really only Germany and USA are the super majors

[glacial steeple]

no?

ussr def is one with enough time

uk is at game start but doesnt scale as much

usa doesnt have build slots

france could be good but you dont scale so theyre just major

[wild rune]

So true

[glacial steeple]

same for italy, doesnt scale

[edgy pendant]

I suppose so, was going to include ussr as well but their growth practically stops in 1941 where as USA and Germany doesn’t

[glacial steeple]

japan is also kinda buff now

[static turret]

casey whats the strongest most scalable minor

[glacial steeple]

the main ussr debuff is tech time

opposite of usa

[static turret]

bulgaria?

[edgy pendant]

True. Soviet tech is really bad

[glacial steeple]

kumul khanate, prc, bulgaria are all good

[static turret]

y prc and kumul khanate

[glacial steeple]

most scalable super late game is always china

[wild rune]

I love bulgaria

[glacial steeple]

mega manpower pool

[static turret]

ah I see

[glacial steeple]

kumul khanata gets a ton of cores

all cored

[edgy pendant]

Raj can scale pretty well too but it’s practically all rng based

[static turret]

well I have to try this.

is it a secret path

[wild rune]

Does Kumul khanate get the prc core on tibet?

[glacial steeple]

no

[static turret]

do I need anythin specific to happen

[wild rune]

Nah

Play as sinkiang

[glacial steeple]

you do khotan ma war as sinkiang

nation spawns with 4 dudes

probably go ussr support path as sinkiang cuz

you get weapons when capping sinkiang

its really useful

[wild rune]

Casey

[stuck garnet]

ngl can i like

[glacial steeple]

no

[stuck garnet]

have advice

[wild rune]

Damn

[wild rune]

Yeah

[glacial steeple]

you can core the state in india tho

[static turret]

drink water

[stuck garnet]

I'm just confused on like what to do for downtime, how to prepare for war, etc, like who to declare war on and stuff like that idk 😭

like

just overall confused

[static turret]

like

how to prepare army to attack?

[glacial steeple]

when you see war you go war

if cant go war, dont go war

[stuck garnet]

like how to prepare an army beyond just having infantry in it

like i don't know how much to prioritize when it comes to factories too

[static turret]

while war.see():
if war.can():
player.go()
else:
return None

[static turret]

depends on who you are and what you want out of your army

[glacial steeple]

make gun

[stuck garnet]

and sometimes i put off producing tanks untill it's way too late to produce tanks because of that because when i have surplus factories, and i don't have the proper technology to make a half-decent design for tanks and aircraft

[static turret]

you can prioritise air,infantry,tanks,mecha etc

[glacial steeple]

if enough gun make other stuff

like air

tank

[static turret]

wich country

[glacial steeple]

support equipment

[stuck garnet]

I guess it depends on country?

I was asking in general tbh cause this bleeds into my modded gameplay

[glacial steeple]

kind of

[static turret]

well if your a small country like idk tibet

[stuck garnet]

like major/minor?

[glacial steeple]

you look at your resources available

[static turret]

you cant make tanks

[glacial steeple]

you make an army based on those

[glacial steeple]

they can

[stuck garnet]

lts?

[static turret]

it also depends on ressources if you can trade them when at war or if you have them

[static turret]

hein?

[glacial steeple]

the only nations where tanks are impossinle is south america

[static turret]

tanks are expensibe how can they make enough to fight

[glacial steeple]

you have like no steel and a lot of eco for air

[glacial steeple]

its not particularly the wisest but theyre capable of it

[stuck garnet]

idk how big an industry should be to like make the stuff i need

like idk how to manage infra/civs/mils properly and i abandon dockyards on sight tbh

[glacial steeple]

when gun > manpower then manpower > needs to be saved > make less manpower intensive unit (tank)

[static turret]

if youre gonna be attacking small nations you should get air since they will either have none or very little and shtty

[glacial steeple]

if economy large > want to beat small enemy effectively with lot of power/can majorly outproduce enemy > air

if airfields low (ai cant build them) and you think you can have more plane than enemy > air

[stuck garnet]

idk sometimes i just do infantry spam cause i'm too nervous to go down arty line and get basic meds and get easy maintennance and buff up my armor/speeds tics etc etc to like. get a decent template and air is locked behind 1940 tech

[glacial steeple]

you dont need that much

[static turret]

dont do art line

[glacial steeple]

for tanks you research interwar chassis

[static turret]

it did get a bit stronger now but still bad

[glacial steeple]

then pick 1 of the 3 arty branches

AA for light, arty for SPG, AT for TD

[stuck garnet]

i play singleplayer dw dw

[glacial steeple]

then make tank

[shut ravine]

should i seperate offensive units from defensive ones

[glacial steeple]

air is more tech intensive but lets you really win hard

[stuck garnet]

idk sometimes i just like hop between tds and spgs

and then i don't use tds at all

let aloen cannons

and just put a howietzer 2

i don't even put on the support anti tank company

i just think it's nice to have as a backup

i don't armor meme also tbh

[static turret]

fr

[scenic nacelle]

Yes

[glacial steeple]

hii chris (tigpa)

[stuck garnet]

I should I just don't want to manage too much in this game where you have to micromanage everything

[static turret]

if you have a shtload of cas even defensive inf can push like tanks

[stuck garnet]

it's one extra production line buti g idk

like yeah im already managing everything else

[shut ravine]

should i seperate their marshalls too

[static turret]

you dont need to

[stuck garnet]

i'm just like

very confused on what to do in general

[glacial steeple]

choose what to do before starting game

do objective

[stuck garnet]

so i usually just sit back as whatever nation i'm playing, be wildly unprepared for war no matter if i'm major or minor, wait untill there's a conflict i can involve myself in

[glacial steeple]

its like a sandbox game

you pick your goal

[stuck garnet]

but i play sp so i'm like "Oh i gotta get tanks and air because i gotta be self reliant" and then i am lucky if i go to war by 1940

i don't mess with special forces either, looks too scary but it would be 100% useful all of the time usually

don't put random ass links in help channel 😭

IP grabber i bet

also like does anyone have like reccomendations for vol templates

i used cas in my italy game

it was very strong

also like idk about air/navy doctirne

doctrine*

[twin pine]

I can not build naval headquarters. Is this option not in the latest free patch

[stuck garnet]

hey i have a question

is it a good idea to just like put trucks on your tank templates and replace them with mech later

[static turret]

yeah

[stuck garnet]

idk i'm concerned cause i always hear "They give no stats not worth" but like do you expect me to wait untill 1939 to get mech? I need tanks 😭

that messed me up as a newbie tbh

[versed rose]

You use horses

Not trucks

Same stats, half cost

[stuck garnet]

speed debuff?

ohh new meta

[static turret]

Whats the new meta

İ havent kept track since the new dpc

[stuck garnet]

i have a question

what's like good mot/mech /tank ratio

[glacial steeple]

why not cav

2.2x cheaper

[stuck garnet]

idk i'm used to trucks

is cav good in the new update?

like

better?

ik cav obv isn't good but is it usable?

[versed rose]

its always been better than truck

camel is preferred

but like, only France really goes tank and also has camel

[static turret]

Guys

[glacial steeple]

italy could

[static turret]

Wheres the khunul khanate

[glacial steeple]

i think saudi arabia could

[glacial steeple]

sinkiang

[static turret]

İn the sinkiang focus I cant find it

[glacial steeple]

in the east

[glacial steeple]

do khotan ma war

youll get an event

by doing the focus

[versed rose]

10 tank 8 inf, or 9/9

[static turret]

Oh march into khotan

[stuck garnet]

idk i was kind of surprised at how good cas/armor is when you use it since i'm so used to just spamming infantry

like when i played italy ig

[glacial steeple]

i think 10/8 is viable now

with 40 per batallion

[stuck garnet]

wait why 8/10 and why 10/8

isn't it better to have like as many tanks as it's healthy to put in a division for breakthrough/ATK/armor etc?

also i heard too much org (For an offensive division) is bad cause it stays in combat for longer and takes more losses

[elfin kraken]

I'm trying to assign ships to a seazone, the naval base is LITERALLY inside the seazone. but its saying I don't have range, even with my big ships, what is this new naval system

can someone explain

[glacial steeple]

no

less hp = more losses, more time to recover

just always kinda an ehhh tradeoff

[glacial steeple]

do you have a naval supply hub

[stuck garnet]

yeah mates sense

10/8 is probably good

[versed rose]

the classic old MW tank div that has 100 hp

strength deletes itself

lmao

[elfin kraken]

No, is that a new building?

[stuck garnet]

hey if they're cut from capital they get no new supplies yeah?

[versed rose]

they'll have local supply

[stuck garnet]

like reinforcements

do they get reinforcements

also i kinda wanna go focus on economic growth route cause i'm going spartacus and i will puppet a lot

[uneven bay]

how can I disband these italian units?

[stuck garnet]

also this new feature is messing with me

[stuck garnet]

you don't

either use it as a garrason or hope it gets encircled in it's next combat, that's what i do

like a port guard

also i wanna build tac bombers :3

they're really strong whenever i use them early so i can't help but imagine how good they are past that

[viscid wedge]

yo im new to the game, does anyone mind helping me learn the basics?

[craggy rain]

Jus watxh hella tommyk videos 😭 ✌️

[scenic nacelle]

They are fun

[wintry matrix]

There are some nice beginner tutorials on YT.
A Tutorial exists, but it is very unrefined.

[sinful vessel]

I've finally managed to win with Germany on the lowest difficulty (i know it shouldn't be a victory, but i've struggled so much that it's one for me ^^). What other country could be interesting for a bad player who want to try new things ?

[stuck garnet]

I heard italy is great for newer players

but if you want to you could play canada

[sinful vessel]

That's (Italy) my main idea. Isn't Canada a bit "passive" ?

[stuck garnet]

I don't touch the soviet union with a 5 foot pole, it looks interesting as hell but too many debuffs/looks complicated/paranoia system

[stuck garnet]

that's the point

you could help britian in ww2

with tanks

and like you don't have to worry about capitulating

[wintry matrix]

Romania is fine.
No big Debuff, except that the King likes to party.
Keep your political power in the early game.
Fix the party issue.
You can start some early beef against Bulgaria and Hungary.
And siding with Germany stays an option.
And some industry.

[viscid wedge]

yea I watched a tutorial but it didnt explain alot of stuff, and the ingame tutorial doesnt help that much

[stuck garnet]

but canada is like ehh

only if you're worried about losing tbh

italy better

i went communist as italy and had a decent amount of fun

[sinful vessel]

I'm french irl, i can't stand helping british 😄 . Though trying to become independant as a british colony could be fun.

[stuck garnet]

You could try finland? Idk

if you have arms against tyranny the public trust system is pretty interesting imo

[mild scaffold]

you can with a focus im pretty sure

[stuck garnet]

or mexico :3

[stuck garnet]

Real??

[wintry matrix]

Otherwise use them as coastal guards.

[stuck garnet]

mexico is cool to play as when i go commie cause i like invading the nations down south but usa always messes me up

Then and their dirty "Freedom" 😡 Give me my land back goddamnit

/j

[fading ibex]

yes

they will run out eventually

[stuck garnet]

anyways im gonna focus on industry early

but i'm probably not gonna focus on industry early tbh

like i need to pick up like stuff on the way

I mean usually i try to start on things a year ahead

[solemn karma]

So hey i wanted to try out new japan with tanks...whats the optimal design for tanks for attack on china and should i just build mils from day one? btw i do not have newest dlc so China is not that weak

[stuck garnet]

idk would you need lts for china?

i think meds are probs fine

[solemn karma]

well i tried multiple times to take china with pure inf and some arti in it but i usually get stuck

and well if i want strong industry to compete against allies i want to rush china

[radiant sluice]

just bought the game few days ago and im confused by everything can someone like teach me the game? (myb someone geraman speaking)

[tribal skiff]

About the latest version of HOI4: which land doctrines would be good for 'traditional' German army? Also, I thought there was going to be a new SF doctrine like rangers in there?

[stuck garnet]

ehhh line arty is a bad unless they're using gun 1s

[sinful vessel]

Can i close my airport to some faction members ?

[stuck garnet]

if they're using 2 and up line arty isnt worth

just use support arty anyways

plus line arty is like

first of all, expensive

just invest in tanks at that point

second of all

drains your str org and adds extra width (For soft attack yeah but i don't think it's worth it, infantry is primarily a defensive unit)

[solemn karma]

well then tanks for china i can then just stack soft attack and a little armor and chinese shouldnt do really anything then yeah? And tank divs should be around 30w? (idk if i can produce that much though even though i build mils d1

[stuck garnet]

36 width

i heard 10/8 is good

[hushed bay]

how can i reform my front line

[versed rose]

i assume by Traditional you mean Prussian Legacy

Take GBP Grand Doctrine
Infantry Subdoctrine can be Assault Infantry (better with Special Forces) or Large Unit Tactics (stronger line inf)

Operations Subdoctrine should be Grand Assault or maybe Infiltration, Germany attacks, so you take attacking doctrines.

The other Artillery and Tank subdoctrines can be whatever you want, mostly irrelevant for infantry anyway

[tribal skiff]

Sorry, I actually should have said 'meta', that is the mobile warfare grand doctrine & sub-doctrines? It also looks like the new doctrines affect which theorists you choose and when? And they change the importance of some support companies too, so I am more than a little lost with this new system

[versed rose]

then you take Mobile Inf, Mobile Recon, Tank Destroyer Force, Grand Assault, and still take GBP grand doctrine

well actually tank destroyer force kinda meh for SP, so ig you can do Streamlined Deployment or Mobile Defense

[tribal skiff]

I like to micro manage my offences, especially with tanks, so is GBP less useful?

[versed rose]

planning is always useful

nothing compares to Grand Assault's 20% planning and 25% breakthrough, and the other grand doctrines give irrelevant bonuses for attacking, only GBP actually gives a bonus from its milestones

[tribal skiff]

Yes, planning is good for the bonuses initially, but I can't stand the way AI handles troops once it's properly gaining traction. Even with using spearhead commands or ignoring flanks etc. it's often kinda bad

[versed rose]

then turn on immobile cohesion and manually move them

[lunar notch]

how do you start a naval invasion

[bitter oak]

See this thing here:

You click it

[wet topaz]

while war.see():
if war.can():
player.go()
else:
sys.exit()

[barren sun]

how do i dismantle factions in the new update

[bitter oak]

These blue icons should pop up (they are ports)

You click on them

[lunar notch]

any advices on assaulting UK?

as reich

[bitter oak]

Hmmmm

As a beginner, I recommend that, for the navy part and for ease, you create light cruisers/cheap destroyers or subs for your navy

And for landing

See these orange spots right here?

These are the optimal landing areas

[lunar notch]

ive been trying to secure europe but uk always interfering with my business

[bitter oak]

You do NOT want to go and land down

[barren sun]

help pls

[bitter oak]

Just create garrisons for your beaches then

If you want, and deal with UK later

[lunar notch]

no they are supporting other countries so my front lines are impossible to break

[bitter oak]

Or you can do the hard way and capitulate them before the Soviet Union war

[lunar notch]

be me
justifiying war goal against netherlands
uk guarantees their independence
attack anyways
half of the world fighting against me

[lament mason]

how tf do I fix this

[sand pasture]

how do i create missiles withouth the dlc for nukes

[forest widget]

does anyone know if you can cheese japan civil war in ncns? (delete all templates turn all units to 2w arty)

[opaque garden]

is this a good template?

[formal cove]

i think its kinda bad

[opaque garden]

why?

how do I improve it?

[lunar notch]

do you have like entire nation filled with military factories?

[opaque garden]

im usa

[lunar notch]

oh

[formal cove]

im not that goog on hoi i only got 770 h but you can make an division with a bit less altirely

and remove hospitals as usa you dont need it

[opaque garden]

my main question is is the cost worth the stats

not is it affordable

[formal cove]

add enginer company thats will give an massive bonus

[opaque garden]

I have field hospital just because i want them to be veterans

[opaque garden]

I have assault engineer

[formal cove]

add an enginer company for sure

[opaque garden]

why I have assault engineer

[formal cove]

sry didnt see your last msg

[opaque garden]

im using this tank

[formal cove]

maybe add some motorization

[opaque garden]

wdym?

infantry walks at 4km ph

[formal cove]

motorization ,trucs

[opaque garden]

to the template?

[formal cove]

yeh

[opaque garden]

the unit walks at the speed of its slowest unit

[formal cove]

then there ist need

[opaque garden]

what are u saying?😭 😭 😭

[formal cove]

yeh kinda drunk made an effect

[versed rose]

why is your gun so bad

[opaque garden]

whats bad?

[versed rose]

you have improved heavy but small cannon 2

wtf is wrong with your research

[opaque garden]

I rushed heavy

[versed rose]

why

[opaque garden]

like 3 years early

[versed rose]

chassis is the most useless thing to research for tank design

[opaque garden]

still

I like getting the most modern tank early to build up the efficiency

[fleet zephyr]

good but tbh change ur tank to one and use a destroyer with alot of armor

[formal cove]

to little soft attack

[opaque garden]

its fine

I got artillery

4

plus support artists

[versed rose]

2 wrongs dont make a right

[opaque garden]

ahh its fine

[analog maple]

guys how do i gain all the rubber i need as germany?

[versed rose]

if you werent going to change anything, why did you ask for help

in any case, its awful

[opaque garden]

no I wanted advice on the template

not the tank

[versed rose]

the tank is the whole point of that template

remove armored maintenance, useless, go replace with flametank

[opaque garden]

fair enough

[opaque garden]

dont have it yet

[versed rose]

do that next, flametank bonuses > anything the armored support vehicle will ever dream of giving

[formal cove]

buld an sintetic refinery

[versed rose]

assault engineer is a worse flametank

[opaque garden]

what if I do assault+flametank and no support artillery

[versed rose]

why remove support arty

its good and cheap

armored signal and armored maintenance are both useless

[opaque garden]

why

[versed rose]

armored signal debateably good but regular signal provides the most important stat which is initiative, maintenance is just plain useless

doesnt do anything

[opaque garden]

more breakthrough

reliability

[versed rose]

flametank and armored recon provide more breakthrough

reliability is useless

[opaque garden]

why

less broken tanks= less reinforcing

[versed rose]

you dont break tanks unless you're deliberately fighting in mountains, marshes, deep snow, mud, or low supply

all terrains you shouldnt even be fighting in

even with 20% reliability its fake

[opaque garden]

fair enough

none of them in western europe

[opaque garden]

but I do need it if I attack soviet right?

they've got lots of those

[lunar notch]

what units do yall advise to use when storming UK

infantry with good support companies enough?

[opaque garden]

u Germany?

[glacial steeple]

whats up chatroom

[glacial steeple]

have air cover and supply

[lunar notch]

yes

[glacial steeple]

maybe dont attack with bad units

[lunar notch]

what are good units

[glacial steeple]

marine

[lunar notch]

theres no way my production capabilities match with this division

[versed rose]

its infantry what

[lunar notch]

oh my bad

[opaque garden]

I would paratrooper them

[versed rose]

its 2.8k ic

[lunar notch]

i also dont know how do you commence an air raid

with paratroopers

[opaque garden]

dont combine 2 different special forces

ever

[glacial steeple]

why not

whats your rationale

[opaque garden]

u have special forces for special purposes

[glacial steeple]

yes

[opaque garden]

they're not some all round unit

[glacial steeple]

marines need 50% amphib buff to not have a penalty

that cannot go positive

[opaque garden]

theyre supposed to be good at smth specific

[glacial steeple]

and mountaineers are better otherwise

so you put mountaineers rather than marines after reaching the 50% amphib buff

[lunar notch]

do i use this template or not

[glacial steeple]

kinda are for offensive inf but ok

i toom that template from. pins but would rather prefer like this

[versed rose]

@glacial steeple wyt

loaded up that ranger supply hub sitter game

[glacial steeple]

no militia L

[versed rose]

rip

[scenic nacelle]

more line at ngl

[glacial steeple]

also rangers kinda suck no?