ask-for-help-here

[fossil rain]

yea for the production

oh

so just make cruiser subs?

[pliant condor]

yeah

[fossil rain]

what about the battleships and subs and whatnot

or is that just kinda liike on the side

[latent mural]

you can use it for shore bombardment in china ig

[pliant condor]

it's irrlevant

your starting fleet is enough

just don't split it and you will win engagement

[fossil rain]

wdym by "dont split it"

[pliant condor]

the real important thing is making 3 collab on china and capitulate them in time

so you have factory

china is I think like 200 factory now?

[fossil rain]

gotcha

[fossil rain]

damn

[fossil rain]

what is considered "in time"

[pliant condor]

all your navy should be in one task force

every surface ship

[pliant condor]

whenever you finish the third collab

like before 38

also make sure you annex china in the peacedeal in two rounds, first click on all the warlord states, then click on main china in the second round

so your collab apply on the warlords

[fossil rain]

ok, I made the navy so that all the surface ships are in one and all the subs are in another

[fossil rain]

alr, ill keep an eye on that

[dense flume]

when units are awarded medals do they expire if not used?

[pliant condor]

oh and very importantly

[fossil rain]

also one last thing, what should I have reserached for the spy tech? to finish the collab faster, or do I just reserach stuff along the way as I start collabs

[pliant condor]

make sure you do the flip fascist focus before you capitulate china

if you are on hist path

[pliant condor]

it doesn't matter, just do 5

and hire spy advisor before starting your first collab

[fossil rain]

Im doing a non historical run, but Im going historical

[fossil rain]

mhmm

[pliant condor]

yeah so

u need to flip fascist

because flipping removes half of your compliance

in china, if you capitulate them

[frozen dome]

May I ask
If my hoi4 file is from older game version
But I updated my hoi4
Then how can I play it
(It said the file is from another version ,can’t load)

[sly night]

You gotta go to the beta version

You can change it in steam

[glacial steeple]

you cant on the new version

[frozen dome]

Oh okok

[pliant condor]

what else, don't take nanjing before you start your third collab

[frozen dome]

I find it first,ty

[fossil rain]

ah interesting

alr thanks, Ill see what I can do this run

[dense flume]

for new players playing axis is it best to go historical or alt-hist? war in europe has not started\

[fossil rain]

i went historical, but tbh, I FEEL like alt-hist would be a littttllleee better, but u know what to expect if u go historical

what do I do with ts?

[neat widget]

IDK, but I'd recommend historical for consistency, wacky things can happen in non-historical

In historical you will generally be dealing with two balanced sides, and you can be tiebreaker

[dense flume]

it is like being sandwiched though hist axis had 2 front war that is not really a good idea

[fossil rain]

I need a little bit of help with the focuses

[uneven hinge]

why aren't my troops moving despite activating the plans to invade the nation im at war against?

[dense flume]

hit the go button arrow

[uneven hinge]

already did

[latent mural]

how do i make conversion only convert a specific type of plane?

[dense flume]

the new dlc dropped and germany isn't the faction leader by default?

he is sub to the Operations Commander have to hit the go button on him too?

[uneven hinge]

why aren't they moving?

[dense flume]

as Germany alt-hist back Nordic countries or ally soviet?

[fossil rain]

which focus is the attack China one

I can't really see it

im too blind

i think im almost too late to attack them

[dusky prism]

hiya

my current vere is 1.17 and millennium wontw okr

whats the code for 1.16.9

[dense flume]

what is the purpose for promoting a general? they lose a skill for 100 days

why promote general to field marshal any tips on picking a general to promote to FM?

[vocal cloud]

How do I stop my faction as Japan from declaring war on China

And how do I stop my puppet from attacking me

[fluid wharf]

revisiti 21 demands

than reincforce the garrisons

than u should go to war through decisiom

[fossil rain]

Oooh

[dense stone]

anyone knows how to fix names of states? Or is it a bug

[fossil rain]

I didnt see anything at the time, but the Marco polo bridge incident event popped up outa nowhere so I just automatically went to war

[fluid wharf]

yea

the war is decision now

[indigo sapphire]

hey yalls

[pliant condor]

is this vanilla

[fluid wharf]

because its easier to level a general than fm

[indigo sapphire]

should i use the Ranger unit a LOT more?

[fluid wharf]

idts

[fossil rain]

Interesting

[pliant condor]

also japan is so cooked now😂

you can't get total in sp

china doesn't have factory

[fossil rain]

Also one more thing, I cant make any new troops, im stuck with 2 full armies and 5 divisions

I have no equipment

[pliant condor]

maybe you should like take the north then let china walk into it or something

[fluid wharf]

i mean i think u just get someone to trade boost china

[indigo sapphire]

i need a answer to this pls

[pliant condor]

not enough

I tried

bcuz china has no resources either🤣

[pliant condor]

yes if you special force exploit

[indigo sapphire]

alr

i already made yesterday a Couple few RANGER templates

[dense flume]

do I lose all stat bonuses if I switch subdoctrines?

[fluid wharf]

answer is to make more euipment

[pliant condor]

y

[fluid wharf]

actually it is

[dense flume]

in land doctrine I have 161 points in Great War Infantry and if I switch to Irregulars do I keep the stats and transfer remaining points to Irrigular warfare when I switch?

[pliant condor]

wait

[fluid wharf]

i think sinkiang spawns it in

[pliant condor]

i wonder if the japan autarky thing could be done

with this

[fluid wharf]

i loaded an older save

and i have it

[fluid wharf]

yea prob

[pliant condor]

also why doesn't GEACPS has the fort thingy

[dense flume]

I lose all bonuses from switching doctrine but they are refunded to the new doctrine?

[pliant condor]

idts

[fluid verge]

its probably because of ur game files being messed up

[pliant condor]

research is so scuffed

you need to tech excav 1 and 2

[fluid verge]

u have to delete the localization folder in ur user data folder i think

[dense stone]

thank you

[fluid verge]

C:\Users\User\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\localisation

[glacial steeple]

you have no research anyway

lol

you need ita hmg and self sealing/armor plates

like you can get the plane, i guess

just not anything for ir

it*

[neon girder]

So whats a good early division?

For attack

[pliant condor]

lol you can actually get the autarky thing

only with china and siam

but is it really worth it to rush it

[pliant condor]

no

[neon girder]

WDYM?

[pliant condor]

just make guns

it doesn't matter

[neon girder]

i did i lost to france

[glacial steeple]

hmm

can you still get siam in united front?

if you can then its probably worth it

you have fighters early, youd have high effi fighters

very worthwhile for killing allied air

[fluid wharf]

u more likely died to supply than anything

i can battleplan fra with shitty 18w

[neon girder]

they pushed through the magino line

[fluid wharf]

that i have no answer to

[glacial steeple]

unequipped divs

extremely poor quality

no air

no org somehow

[neon girder]

OOOO I TOTALY FOR GOT TO MAKE PLANES TYSM

[glacial steeple]

i think you forgot/didnt do many things

this isnt a "one issue" kind of deal

[neon girder]

I se

[glacial steeple]

did you send volunteers to spain and china to get a good general (anyone but manstein is fine to send)

did you make mils since the start of the game

[neon girder]

You can do that?

[neon girder]

no

[glacial steeple]

how much infanty equipment did you make

[neon girder]

like 15 facs

[glacial steeple]

how many tank divs did you get out if no air

[sinful vessel]

Do the "infantry" bonuses also apply to motorized ?

[neon girder]

No tank divs

[glacial steeple]

thats way too low

by any standard

needs to be at least like 25 by war time

[glacial steeple]

insane

[glacial steeple]

yes and you should

[neon girder]

Okay

[glacial steeple]

why not? are you on MEFO? PEG?

[neon girder]

I started my makin civs

[glacial steeple]

on PEG i guess you wouldnt but its bad for you because youll be worse off at war start

[glacial steeple]

dont do that

not needed as ger

[neon girder]

Okay

[pliant condor]

because you had no division

[glacial steeple]

you make 1 civ, then mils, in 1938 refineries, then mils again

[fluid wharf]

or just dont in general

[glacial steeple]

probably had divisions

[fluid wharf]

with the advent of coal

[glacial steeple]

just no strenght

[pliant condor]

look at the screenshot

ok both

[fluid wharf]

ur gonna get coal cap so cbuild civ bad

[pliant condor]

mod it out

[fluid wharf]

just go up on eco law for more civ

[glacial steeple]

i mean MEFO imo was already just better

but this update really like made that more the case

[outer relic]

what is the best japan path now with the new dlc? for expansion and a strong army?

[pliant condor]

fascist path is very stupid

but still stronger

ok i guess in vanilla you need to go fascist so you can justify

or waste time on focus

non aligned seems to be the strongest for now

[glacial steeple]

might be easier to go from weakest

weakest is democratic i believe

[wheat cobalt]

best finnish focus path?

[glacial steeple]

non aligned/fascist

fascist gets formable

[pliant condor]

how much eco is cheap last stand worth

[glacial steeple]

idk do you need last stand?

[low olive]

is there any guide for new navy?

[pliant condor]

yes..?

one of the reasons why japan is so strong

[glacial steeple]

i dont think its worth much eco tho?

like air IC is big especially early

i think you can still outproduce allies pre late 38/maybe into 39

[pliant condor]

ok you should def not flip fascist

completely nukes your country

[pliant condor]

it takes everything

there's just no focus time

[wide mason]

yall know how to increase my navy's range?

[pliant condor]

playing correctly you should outproduce allies in 41 lol

LOOK AT THIS

14k air in april 1940

you litearlly get too much air lol

[glacial steeple]

no

vols/LL to axis

burn planes over western europe for fun

i need to do a full hist game still

[glacial steeple]

cuz compliance?

only way around it would be creating collab puppets lol

[pliant condor]

so

ok that was the initial concern

which turns out to be fine since you just rush the fascism focuses

however

you lose very precious focus time

you won't get all the stats by war

and you get 15% cap late

[glacial steeple]

15 cap late sucks yeah

you need 70% tension for vols on non aligned tho iirc

which sucks

youd really like to send either LL or vols to axis if not against ai

no allied air gaming 🥳

[pliant condor]

maybe it's time for heavy fighter japan

[glacial steeple]

why?

isnt small just better

[sinful vessel]

Sorry to ask again, Do the "infantry" bonuses also apply to motorized ?

[pliant condor]

ok you will see a funny number

in 5 minutes

[vocal cloud]

So as Japan how do you prevent war with China before you are ready

[glacial steeple]

you want to go to war ASAP before china is ready?

you are much much more prepared at game start and can win

on top of that all your economy comes from capitulating china

[wraith citrus]

Any multiplayer game?

[vocal cloud]

How do I win i can't beat them because I get the surprise war modifyer and that beat my butt

[glacial steeple]

that means youre going in too late

not that youre going in too early

[vocal cloud]

How do I go early then

[glacial steeple]

early on they have like no equipment and theyre very easy to encircle/kill/battleplan

[glacial steeple]

first 6 focuses

[glacial steeple]

yeah thats good but you dont grt good cost reductions on HF and no jet engine i think?

jet engine maybe actually nvm

[neon girder]

'So when should i start building tanks?

[glacial steeple]

1936 maybe 1937

if you do a tank build

[neon girder]

Now my math is not mathing how do i get enough facs?

[wraith citrus]

can someone help me i am new here

[pliant condor]

tactical bomber?

[pliant condor]

the host has another version of the game

click on version

[pliant condor]

by building them

[neon girder]

I will surly win

[wraith citrus]

if i tap on version then there is no game shown how is it possible ?

[outer relic]

does mexico have a non aligned path? because i can only find communist, fascist, and democratic

[uncut narwhal]

have you played the northeastern army yet?

[wide mason]

chat

how tf do i get naval dominace in the north atlantic ridge

[pliant condor]

you are playing in a mod

and no random people would host on that mod

[dense flume]

what is funner as axis befriend china or Japan?

[earnest dawn]

gang how do i naval invade

in the new dlc

this is ready

i'm patroling

blah blah blah

this is so confusinfg

[vocal cloud]

Then what

[fluid wharf]

Wait u still lose compliance

When u flip idealogy

Gg

[fluid wharf]

Just paradrop 😂

But real answer

For supremacy u need split in two

One for patrol one for strikeforce

[still shard]

Does anyone understand how the faction contribution works in the new DLC?

I did a big game yesterday as the UK, when I checked the faction participation my own contribution has dropped to 6% despite setting up spy rings. Military Collab, research Collab etc
But weirdly mandate of Palestine had over 40% contribution, larger than me. USA, Canada etc

What would cause that?

[earnest dawn]

kinda what i did

[pliant condor]

so I think there are two ways

you can rush the fascist focus

or just not flip

[spark nest]

Guys my millinuim dawn keeps crashing

[winter thicket]

пидораз

[glass nacelle]

gng

shud i play communist china

it seems fu

[pure hinge]

Hey everyone, I need some help.
Most HoI4 guide videos on YouTube are outdated and don’t match the current focus trees, so it’s hard to follow them.
Can anyone recommend good, up-to-date YouTube channels or any reliable documentation for learning HoI4 in 2025 without DLC?

[left mica]

update released 2 days ago

wait for a bit until someone releases a new tutorial

[still shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXIRRVZIY

[left mica]

wait thats new?

[pure hinge]

whats the best way to learn this game? watching YT videos or any resource also availabe?

[left mica]

omg

[still shard]

yeah dropped 21 hours ago

[left mica]

kinda like how you learnt how to speak your mother tongue ig. follow the tutorial and play along. practice as you learn

read the tooltip a LOT

pay attention to the most minute of details, hover over every icon and try to grasp what you're looking at, then reference against the tutorials

segment it up so you dont burn out

[hexed parcel]

i am currently 20 mins into that video

[left mica]

because you eventually will (i do all the time)

[hexed parcel]

why is this stuff so confusing

😭 😭

[still shard]

the best way is to have a patient friend to spend a couple hours guiding you through it.
if you are learning by yourself I would recommend just focusing on one aspect of the game at a time.
Italy is a great country to learn with because they start at war in Ethiopa, you can learn how the combat works pretty easily by experimenting with what divisions you send, then as you get better you send some planes over to see how that affects ground battles

[left mica]

or that

but friends who know hoi4 are rare

but tailored guidance is always better

[pure hinge]

okay i will play Italy then.

[left mica]

italy is diabolical

its not beginner friendly

id say the most beginner friendly would be the ussr. before the update it would be the us because it had a simple and straightforward focus tree and ofc the strongest economy, but idk how the focus tree looks like now

[pure hinge]

which is beginner friendly?

[hexed parcel]

ussr

[left mica]

ussr, germany

maybe us? need to check

if you play ger you need to be careful with 4 year plan

[hexed parcel]

gng genuinely how do i play this game

[left mica]

pray

im also just as confused by the naval update

[still shard]

Italy is very beginner friendly
just don't expect to win WW2 on your first playthrough. I would say play until 1938 then you can take what you learned and apply it to another country

[hexed parcel]

i dont even know the basics

[left mica]

no its not friendly at all

[still shard]

USSR isn't beginner friendly, its mechanics are completely different from your average country
its only beginner friendly in that it is too big to lose early on

[left mica]

you have to build an air force, navy and army because german ai is incompetent and you have to secure the mediterranean

[still shard]

only if you are playing WW2 with it.
if you are new to the game you won't be getting that far on your first run through

[left mica]

and italy ai is just so bad you're better off not calling them into ww2

[left mica]

fair

[still shard]

for learning the core mechanics its the easiest since it has enough divisions to win the war that it starts with, including armour divisions so you can see how they change the outcome of battles

[hexed parcel]

can anyone teach me the basics or do i have to go watch a 2hr tut😭

[left mica]

that is IF they pay attention

i didnt

it took me another game to realise i have to read the tooltip

[still shard]

I just went on the in game tutorial for the first time since 2016
they have improved it a LOT

literally just play that and it will teach you everything you need to know. yes it requires a bit of reading, but if a bit of reading puts you off then HOI is perhaps not the best game for you

[hexed sandal]

does anyone know if something is wrong with the free version of hoi4 or is it just my computer

[stable olive]

is there a way to ask suggest music?

[still shard]

what do you mean?

[opal chasm]

does feildmarshal planning work or?

[spiral crag]

is this a glich or just a part or road to 56. Every other they there is border conflicts

and it is really anoying

i constantly have to fix my divisions

[lucid torrent]

Which doctrine is meta now?

[quasi girder]

Extremely hard to say, the way the doctrines can be outright customized means it depends on what your running

Mobile warfare will provide more grand doctrine buffs for motorized/tanks but grand battleplan can still gain tank buffs from the armor track

[fluid verge]

ok why do i not core these lands https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191553713161113640/1441769780808781834/image.png?ex=6923003e&is=6921aebe&hm=426a48b98d1b7da8da66fed683e94d516fc13b0b768f288a532e4176dab3b43a&

i did rival government n all

[inner sparrow]

sfp for defence and gbp for offense

subdoctrine wise depends if u go tanks or inf but inf is obv, the cw reduction, guerillas is fine and other buffs that give u stats u need like org, recovery, reinforcements, hp/org and so on

tanks u can just do spgs and get 1.5k soft

[scenic nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-fatass-bnuuy-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-rabbit-whatever-gif-15720990188084548831

[frail crow]

Whats a good anti china template

?

im guessing arty and flame tanks with inf

[uneven osprey]

So I have this, someone boosts democracy but I don't know who

[gusty pine]

someone now, what's going on with my map, this is not mode, just standard army map but looks like navy map

[uneven osprey]

Second time happening by the way

[gusty pine]

сheck the national spirit, maybe some spirit boots democracy

[uneven osprey]

None have, I went the Chinese Empire path

Someone is boosting it

It stops then boosts out of nowhere

[wintry haven]

At what point in the meat grinder should I start pushing back? My frontline against germany is about 350 units vs their maybe 800-1100 but I have solid air control and units

[crisp chasm]

does anyone know why i cant attack with my navy ive watched a bunch of tutorials but im stuck

[static turret]

until the meat grinder slows down.

if they can keep attacking they can keep defending

we dont want that

I suggest if you havent put spies on germany and watch their mp pool

if its 0 attack

[hexed parcel]

i tried to do the tut

[left glacier]

You need to spot the enemy fleet using patrol missions, then send your main battle fleet on a strike force mission to intercept.

[hexed parcel]

heres how to move troops gl w the rest ahh tut

[left glacier]

Convoy raiding is also viable with submarines to attract the attention of enemy naval task forces on convoy escort

[grand iris]

What this does

does it cause civil war in russia

or what

[left glacier]

The civil war is looming by the timer. This state decision is to gain control of the state once the war starts

[grand iris]

dang

i thouth the focus demands it

and now im causing ussr to go into civil war

[left glacier]

You need to do it 3 times to get control of the state, just like in the Spanish civil war

[hexed parcel]

So does overthrowing your own government make you play as the new governing party/coalition?

[grand iris]

yes

[hexed parcel]

Thank you! King is about to be replaced by democrats. My plan is coming to fruition. I was not sure if it was a campaign failure.

[left glacier]

I never played any of the Baltic states, but the civil war mechanic is similar to how you would prepare for the Spanish civil war

[hexed parcel]

So my referendum will not be peaceful?

[grand iris]

well i never played spain

[left glacier]

You should give Spain a try at some point

[quasi cloak]

apparently there is a way to convert units without loosing experience

can anybody tell me how?

[left glacier]

It can be yes. But in Latezte’s case, he has to do a civil war

[hexed parcel]

here's hoping. I'm trying to dig in before the Italians show up

[grand iris]

Well but the decisions are inside ussr

not in latvia (im latvia)

[stuck garnet]

hey how much width should like island protectors be

8-12?

how many as well?

[neon girder]

How do i lvl up this bad boy fast?

[left glacier]

Send them as volunteers in other wars

[neon girder]

Ah okay

[left glacier]

Each of these traits have specific requirements to meet in order to earn them

[neon girder]

As bhutan

[left glacier]

I typically use 2 16 with infantry division

[stuck garnet]

wat

i've heard "4 men with a shovel"

i've heard "6 men with a shovel"

oh yeah this is for port guards too

i just want a lot of background fellas for them

in case i get naval invaded by france or uk or whatever cause i'm playing anarchist spain

i didn't delay the civil war and like this is peak

cause i won really early imo

btw i was outnumbered by the carlinists like about above 50% but it's cool cause i kept on capitulating them

btw it's been a bit after the civil war i'm just civ greeding rn

even theeeen

probably a bad idea to civ greed when i wanna take portugal

ehh usually after this point i get too scared to attack france and nothing happens

any advice for france?

or in general?

[left glacier]

Well you’re going to be fighting the allies and also Germany too later down the line because of your ideology

[stuck garnet]

yeah true

wait lemme check factions

also like

i'm putting operatives in france cause portugal war is in like 20 days so not worth imo

or like

am i wrong 😭

i could put the operative in portugal for less entrenchment, less planning for enemy, more planning speed and invasion defense for me

they could capitulate earlier

[fathom thistle]

Since the doctrines changed a lot:

1. What is the closest thing to mass assault r path?
2. Do I need to research rangers to get them as support company or can I still do it via special forces doctrine?

And do I need to constantly train my troops to gain that progression xp?

[tame latch]

can someone tell me why I’m losing a battle to Poland I got 27 divisions they got 1 and I’m losing😭

[left glacier]

I don’t exactly have an answer for 1.

2. You can get recon rangers via mountaineers or rangers

And continuous training is actually good to gain mastery in peace time

[stuck garnet]

tbh don't like how a lot of like advisors are still on the old doctrine buff (Discount for buying doctrines) but it's kinda useful for getting it slightly earlier

uhh this is my doctrines

i think large unit tactics might be dog but is it?

[left glacier]

What do your division templates look like?

[left glacier]

I had a Mexico game to try out the new stuff. They have a good cavalry general that pairs well with mounted infantry doctrine

[stuck garnet]

tried mexico

got stuck on like

panama cause the canal was owned by us and i forgot to build up a navy

is gbp still good

[rancid oar]

i wanna play as latvia but the soviet union will destroy me eaither way, what do i do, and if i attack lithuania, france will come after me

[fathom thistle]

So is cavarly actually viable now with doctrines changes?

[left glacier]

You don’t exactly need to build up navy

[stuck garnet]

how do i

[fathom thistle]

for like offensive templates

[stuck garnet]

do i just push through usa 😭

[left glacier]

Infantry

[stuck garnet]

the panama canal

[left glacier]

You gotta go for encirclements

[stuck garnet]

it's owned by usa

can't push

[left glacier]

There should be an focus where you can pressure the US to give up its claim on the Panama Canal

If not, you’ll have to go to war

Which by that time, you should be ready to invade the US and encircle their divisions

[stuck garnet]

also this isn't a calv build

i heard it just maintains most exp after civil war

i might convert to mot/mech and tanks later

trying to build up infantry for now

[neon girder]

How many facs should i have on tanks 36?

[left glacier]

As many factories as you need. Typically 10 for the minimum optimal factory output

[neon girder]

How do i get so many?

How do iget 35 facs in one year?

[neon girder]

and how many on planes and guns?

[left glacier]

You would need to build a lot of factories

Typically as many factories on guns

If your going to invest in air a lot more, 5-15

[fathom thistle]

Is it just me or do I actually need to put way more factories for like AA and support eq?

[neon girder]

my math is not mathing

[neon girder]

yep

[fathom thistle]

😭

[left glacier]

You should go for medium tanks

[minor wagon]

Why can't I make another naval invasion? I have a limit of 2

Could it be a bug?

[fathom thistle]

What is the new ratio of production that I should aim for?
Inantry eq ratio - Supprt eq, AA, artillery, trucks

[sinful vessel]

Do infantry bonuses also give bonuses to motorized infantry ?

[left glacier]

Product hasn’t exactly changed much because of the new coal requirement

[left glacier]

Yes

[fathom thistle]

Military factories wise

Like before I usualy went for example - 12 Infantry eq, 6- support , - 3 AA, -3 Art

[left glacier]

Unless specified otherwise, any buffs to infantry also apply to motorized and mechanized infantry

[fathom thistle]

Now it seems like I have to have even production for Inf eq and support eq

• way more for AA

[glacial steeple]

short

[left glacier]

[uncut narwhal]

how am i supposed to win, ive found myself at war with china and japan

[glacial steeple]

tactical bomber kinda bad

[glacial steeple]

build them, anschluss

[glacial steeple]

hii

[glacial steeple]

well you need to look at the situation

you start with an unequipped aemy but 2 mils

[neon girder]

How do i make my army big enough?

[glacial steeple]

xommuniat china with 1 mil

wait on them to strike out, or equip your forces with superior weaponry

all warlords struggle to equip because ai doesnt disband units

[uncut narwhal]

but i physically cant push their mountains, do i actually have to wait for full equipment?

[glacial steeple]

take advantage of that fact

[glacial steeple]

you havw to get something that can push

mountaineers, artillery, tanks, air

the terrain is too unfavourable

[uncut narwhal]

2 mils with like -10k guns

[glacial steeple]

thats above average

the average chinese div is 25% equipped

[glacial steeple]

for what

youll have weapons

[neon girder]

'

[glacial steeple]

you need to go up conscription law

[neon girder]

O i se

[glacial steeple]

use rhineland xp to make a division consisting of 1 infantry guy

make 120 of them

[uncut narwhal]

the 180 day timer for the war doesnt really help

[glacial steeple]

so you do the focus later

[serene karma]

Hmm i need to remake the doctrine guide

[glacial steeple]

be patient

go for others

[serene karma]

Basic meta has alr settled

[uncut narwhal]

but no cores right?

[glacial steeple]

so?

you core later

[uncut narwhal]

i just wanted to know cause i never looked

[glacial steeple]

the new warlords save for sinkiang dont start with tech

which sucks

you only have gun 0

youre going to need something better

[uncut narwhal]

the sinkiang "king" path looks lwk cool tho

also

[glacial steeple]

you know what looks cool

that releasable on the right side of sinkiang

you should tag to them/release them

[uncut narwhal]

kumul khanate?

[glacial steeple]

yes

they get the most potential cores out of any warlord

[uncut narwhal]

ohh cause of turkic and mongol unification

[wintry haven]

7k but they still have nearly 1,200 divisions, 1,100 or so on my front

[glacial steeple]

theres even an event

[uncut narwhal]

but if i build stuff in the starting northeastern army states, i lose it all when i move

[glacial steeple]

in the sinkiang war to play them

so its meant to be ironman compatible playable

its so cool

[glacial steeple]

you always keep the land?

[static turret]

Are they still throwinf themselves at you

[wintry haven]

yep, 3m vs 50k, mad stuff

[uncut narwhal]

idk bout the conquered, but not the starting states

[glacial steeple]

you do

[static turret]

Aight then just wait till they stop

[glacial steeple]

just dont give away the state to prc 😭

usually they do it voluntarily

if you dont do that, theyll have to start a border conflict

which theyll lose if yoire equipped

[tame latch]

i just copy ones from yt

[uncut narwhal]

im talking this vro

how does one not get ripped off

[wintry haven]

and what about Tank Div Template?

[static turret]

I go for the standard 36 width

[tame latch]

guys can someone give me a good infantry template? bc i keep losing even when i outnumber them

[glacial steeple]

does that get rid of states?

[static turret]

İf you gave flame tank add that to support

[wintry haven]

what I have vs What I've been suggested but the suggestion looks kinda ass

[glacial steeple]

both look kinda ass

[uncut narwhal]

it gives the starting states to china, and you basically annex hebei-chahar

[static turret]

Yeah

[glacial steeple]

where terrain buffs

[static turret]

Light tank in ww2 kinda bad

[glacial steeple]

where hp

why motorized

[static turret]

You should add flametank company for more stats

[wintry haven]

idk bro, I only have like 50 hours on this game

[glacial steeple]

just kill china first?

easy

[wintry haven]

I don't have flametanks

[tame latch]

lmao relatable i got 6 hours

[static turret]

Oh dam ur pretty good for 50 hours

[uncut narwhal]

how am i supposed to do that

[glacial steeple]

get good?

[tame latch]

guys can sm1 gimme a good infantry division for hilly regions/plains

[neon girder]

How do i switch to medium improved tank without having to redo divs and alla tanks and stuff?

[static turret]

Defense im guesding?

[wintry haven]

River line is what's saving me bro, I'm doing ok except I need an armour template

[tame latch]

offense i think?

[uncut narwhal]

maybe if i go down the internal focus tree and hope ill subjugate some warlords

[glacial steeple]

ok i just woke up

so

can you bypass that focus?

[uncut narwhal]

nope

[glacial steeple]

or otherwise negate the state effects

[static turret]

Use mountanairs

[neon girder]

Are tanks at 1938 good or bad time to get them?

[tame latch]

wheres that?

[glacial steeple]

you want them earlier

or you wont have any out by war

you dont need a better chassis

just research like guns

[static turret]

Special forces

[neon girder]

I am really slow then i just got pre war tanks out bruh

[wintry haven]

this looks good but ion have that stuff

[static turret]

Research them in the first tab of research at the bottoö

[tame latch]

for infantry right?

[static turret]

Yeah

[glacial steeple]

i mean like

you need divs

[tame latch]

ohh found it thanks so much

[glacial steeple]

4 tanks 14 cav i think

[tame latch]

does it apply instantly?

[glacial steeple]

to grind panzer trait

thats what you should have pre war

[stuck garnet]

two questions tbh
Is it worth producing this if i have nothing better researched?
Is this a bad template on paper

i could've put like radar on the sonar i think

[wintry haven]

Is this a good template?

[glacial steeple]

torp 1 sucks yes

light attack still kills capitals

[glacial steeple]

yes but light tanks, and from yoir starting template

youll need to go GBP and pick proper heritage which hmm

may be annoying

[azure jetty]

How do u get Abd al-llah to become ur country leader as iraq?

[stuck garnet]

so replace torps with sec bats?

[glacial steeple]

you have motorization drive which kind of works too but hmm

[serene karma]

Whats the mastery eq anyone knows

Will one div training work

[glacial steeple]

if you have gun 2

otherwise just med gun 2

[wintry haven]

@static turret wyt?

[glacial steeple]

no

[glacial steeple]

@sand ember has done some testing

[stuck garnet]

template

[serene karma]

@sand ember whats ur results

[glacial steeple]

thats a ship

[glacial steeple]

iirc you need to be equipped and fuelled up

[stuck garnet]

oh ship design?

idk

i like

[glacial steeple]

itll work

[stuck garnet]

i mix up template/design a lot

[glacial steeple]

lacks armor though

[static turret]

Remove 2 tanks add 2 mot also research hospitals

[tame latch]

guys for offense tanks are better right?

[wintry haven]

ok, thanks

[static turret]

Yes

[glacial steeple]

maybe

[tame latch]

i think it depends on the biome

[glacial steeple]

idk how good your battle modifiers are

if theyre bad then tanks suck in general

[stuck garnet]

also like just sub i'm producing it kinda sucks but it's what i have 😭

[tame latch]

lmao i dont even know what a battle modifier is 😭

[glacial steeple]

tanks are good because of big green

[tame latch]

wheres that menu ion understand

[sharp tundra]

when he is going to rule my country? until 1940 which is elections?

[glacial steeple]

battle bubble

left click

[tame latch]

left click where?

like on the battle?

[atomic crag]

Is temporary peace with china the only way to increase the kwantung army timer? I really am not prepared for an early war i think

[wintry haven]

ok so my equipment stocks just dropped from +70k to -8k

[static turret]

You removed 2 tanks how tf

[wintry haven]

I don't know bro 🙏

Oh nvm, 72 divs just went into training

[tame latch]

guys if i research mountaineers does it apply to infantry automatically or do i gotta put it

[sharp tundra]

any idea?

[static turret]

İts a different division

You have to put it

[tame latch]

oh so it creates a diff division

[wintry haven]

These guys are getting touched but I need more factories so might need to push soon

[uncut narwhal]

@glacial steeple

[tame latch]

guys what countrys should i invade as german reich? because whenever i wanna declare they get guaranteed independance by france uk etc

i can get austria and czech by national focus but idk who to like actually invade

[wintry haven]

anchluss, sudetanland, benelux, france

[tame latch]

all of them are national focus right?

i didnt know u can do it up to france mb

[supple spoke]

benelux and france are wargoals, not diplomatic annexes

[tame latch]

ohhh

yh ik

[supple spoke]

But yea, the idea is that you go and like, fight the allies

[rancid oar]

is playing in asia easier?

[tame latch]

wont france declare if i attack benelux tho

or uk

[supple spoke]

Yea they will

Put on big boy hosen and fight them

[hot hemlock]

How can I rule the faction with Italy ?

[tame latch]

btw i heard like ppl say battleplans arent good

like do i just manually attack

[supple spoke]

you should make battleplans because they give planning bonus, which are a huge combat buff. But to play optimally, yes, you control the units yourself

[stuck garnet]

what

[tame latch]

with right click right?

[ancient token]

Do engineer company bonuses apply for armoured engineer companies and armoured assault engineers?

[tame latch]

like i select them then right click on where i want them to attack

[supple spoke]

yea, just moving specific units into enemy provinces based on terrain, supply, etc

[stuck garnet]

wrong chat sorry

[glacial steeple]

hi

[uncut narwhal]

so uhh

i think

[glacial steeple]

nice

[uncut narwhal]

i have almost won

im about to kill commie china

[glacial steeple]

the get good strategy is working?

[uncut narwhal]

the nationalists cant push

[uncut narwhal]

the focus might be op

[glacial steeple]

i didnt know if it actually works just like try stuff out

[tame latch]

guys what is this?

[supple spoke]

special forces is a type of unit

you can't make them infinitely

mountaineers are special forces

[tame latch]

yeah i know that

but like why isnt it spawning tho

[supple spoke]

because you... can't have more of them

[bleak plinth]

is this a good template?

[atomic crag]

You already spawned all you can

[tame latch]

i didnt make any though?

like i didnt spawn any

[atomic crag]

Guess you can't spawn any yet

[supple spoke]

germany starts out with mountaineers and austria has some too when you annex them

[atomic crag]

YeH

[tame latch]

ohh found em

appreciate it

[atomic crag]

Turn those mountaineers into something else

[charred fable]

I'm gonna give this a whirl. Tech wise, what were you doing? Having only three is rough! I take it you went with the above and then grabbed engine III after electro engineering?

[uncut narwhal]

and china went facist and has 15% defense on core territory

[tame latch]

how?

[atomic crag]

Theres like a button in the top left corner of the acreen

[wintry haven]

Time to counterattack? they have stopped meat grinding

[atomic crag]

Two arrows

Green arrows

[wintry haven]

most of their divisions have been diverted

[tame latch]

change division template?

[atomic crag]

Yeah

[tame latch]

so i can also change normal troops to mountaineers and vice versa?

[atomic crag]

depends on special forces cap

But you can turn those mountaineers into any normal unit

[charred fable]

Someone remind me of that spreadsheet that tells you when its best to build infrastructure??

[tame latch]

yeah bc when i used normal infantry

i was losing 27-10 in poland

i was so confused bc 27 is 17 more divisions then 10 so like how tf am i losing

[stuck garnet]

confused

integrated designers?

[winged panther]

no very soon

[atomic crag]

Division templates i guess.

[winged panther]

within 1 other focus

[atomic crag]

Plus attacking with infantry is bad from what i know

[tame latch]

are mine possibly that bad

[atomic crag]

Especially if you're germany

If you're germany attack with tanks

[tame latch]

its bc poland was forests so i thought tanks wouldnt work

[sharp tundra]

i know. im doing all economic focus tree

[glacial steeple]

dont apply MIO until final swap with tech buff

you should put 3 on air lol

which is kinda funni

[charred fable]

Can you elaborate on "final swap with tech buff"?

[glacial steeple]

hmg, self sealing stuff, airframe

[glacial steeple]

well when you click on another tech and back on

you get the research bonus from your focus

but your MIO bonus would reset

so youd only add it then

[tame latch]

any reccomendations for a tank template?

[wintry haven]

I think I forgot to turn off infinite creation on the subs, is it possible to repurpose these?

[wintry haven]

This is what I am using

[stuck garnet]

what do now

[soft canopy]

I really hope that they fix the naval domi soon.
Even the steam hub has many posts about that, that you can´t get it up.
Fleets with 8k domi reaches only 1-2k at your coast and 0 in the 2nd area.
It´s not only me, even friends has problems.
Like japan vs china -> zero domi.
Even the AI can´t do anything right now.

[tame latch]

okay ill copy it

[charred fable]

So it takes 1257 days right now. Let's say I do 1250 days with no MIO. I can start another tech in that slot, instantly cancel it and progress those last 7 days but with MIO, for arguments sake?

[glacial steeple]

yes

but like not that close

its a genuinely large difference

[charred fable]

So how close should it be? Like 31+ days?

[tame latch]

guys for defence should i do a fallback line? or right click with front line or area defense

[charred fable]

If I throw 3 on air then I can't research anything else, such as civ techs. Are you sure?

[charred fable]

Fallback line

[glacial steeple]

just

when you apply the buff

youre gonna get a research buff for the plane

[tough mica]

Best settings on my new pc?

[glacial steeple]

so you get the plane in mid or late 37

[tough mica]

For preformance

[stuck garnet]

is the buff like

that big?

it's like at least a 20% buff to your base level air defense

[charred fable]

Yeah, 'research new planes' I see it in that focus order you did

[stuck garnet]

less than 20% buff to base range

more agility (Nice)

ehh yeah this seems like a good buff actually

[glacial steeple]

i should finish it but im a bit lazy

[tame latch]

guys wtf is this and how do i remove it

[vital ledge]

"

[tame latch]

didnt remove it

[wintry haven]

What does all this mean

[charred fable]

It's cool, I can figure out the rest. It's a good learning curve. Can you just advise on techs. Am I going all three into air and dismissing eco techs?

[scenic nacelle]

Press this button

[tame latch]

thanks

[wintry haven]

What does all this mean

[silver flume]

I just picked up Hearts of Iron and I’m trying to really learn the game. I’m super interested in getting good at it but I’m still confused about the mechanics. If anyone’s down to hop in VC and walk me through the basics, I’d really appreciate it.

[tough mica]

@glacial steeple AMD Ryzen 5 5500, 3600 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)

can you help me with the recommended settings because my pc isn't as fast as my gaming laptop

[glacial steeple]

@pliant condor idea to mog the allies more

puppet prc so you have militia inf as japan

[glacial steeple]

idk

[worn wraith]

how to get rid of 2 division limit of naval support, is ts sort of new update or what?

[glacial steeple]

thats a tech support question

[serene karma]

Do u have a doctrine guide i can pin

[tough mica]

MB

[glacial steeple]

eco after

[serene karma]

What settings

I can help

[glacial steeple]

no

[tough mica]

maximum preformance because it works its just slower (IE lag)

[glacial steeple]

you should pin my template fr fr

this is how you defend in dlc

[scenic nacelle]

please dont chemist

[serene karma]

Nuh uh

Milita isnt for everyone

[glacial steeple]

afghanistan and communist china use it

[serene karma]

Afgan and commie china isnt the world

[serene karma]

Like hoi4 settings or windows settings

Also is this a desktop or laptop

[tough mica]

Desktop

I put my settings on this BTW

[fluid wharf]

gods gift to the world

[serene karma]

Ur cpu is fine

Whats speed is ur 5 speed

[tame latch]

guys how do i get more equipment?

[serene karma]

If u want u can disable all the 3d stuff

[serene karma]

Produce

[tame latch]

which one?

[serene karma]

Murk do u have a general doctrine guide

[tough mica]

fast but it stutters for a couple seconds

[serene karma]

Like autosave stutter or

[tough mica]

I think thats it

no wait I think its framerate

[quasi cloak]

is this a good tank division for attacking?

i will have low amount of these and will use these to push

[tame latch]

wait heavy tanks are better then light?

[quasi cloak]

medium is best

heavy too slow too expensive

[tame latch]

do i get them from research?

[glacial steeple]

truee

god came down to earth and gave us militia

[tame latch]

guys is panzer better or tiger?

[edgy pendant]

True hoi4 meta build

[glacial steeple]

also brodude my india plan is

i click the focus that gives jondon cheaper guns

[quasi cloak]

can i get an answer please?

[glacial steeple]

and then i stumble through the tree and have 3 divs out by war

[glacial steeple]

its rlly not

but ok

[edgy pendant]

Based

[glacial steeple]

use mediums if you want

[indigo sapphire]

hello casey

[tame latch]

im researching mediums rn

[glacial steeple]

its sufficient

id replace engis with MEVs

[indigo sapphire]

is it worth to use ALL combat battalions?

[glacial steeple]

just try them out

the new rangers are shit

but theyll be good in belgium, baltics

finland maybe

[indigo sapphire]

i have a couple few ranger templates

i made myself

[quasi cloak]

i dont have mechanize4d yet

[indigo sapphire]

like fireteam squad section platoon company regiment and battalion

[glacial steeple]

MEVs

military engineerign vehicles

[quasi cloak]

oh

[glacial steeple]

assault engineers

[tame latch]

guys tanks are good for poland right?

[quasi cloak]

im researching that rn

[indigo sapphire]

hello casey

[glacial steeple]

i mean poland doesnt matter but pop off

ideally youd keep poland alove to grind generals

[carmine drift]

how do i make sure next time i do this, this shit wont happen

[tame latch]

wdym by that??

[dense stone]

does anyone knows what countries/states I need to hold for greater hungary achievement?

[tough mica]

I'm gonna have to get a better CPU

I looked at the issues (luckily christmas is around the corner)

[tame latch]

lmao whats ur cpu

[tough mica]

6 core

[tame latch]

what gen

[glacial steeple]

click on tile then click h

[tough mica]

I don't know this stuff TBH

[glacial steeple]

do it repeatedly every like week or something

now you get traits fast

i do it every 24h

[fluid wharf]

attack gbp grand assault plus assault inf

defence sfp deep battle and the one that reduce cw(large unit tactic) than armor is just streamlined

[tame latch]

medium tanks are called armored division right

[charred fable]

So light air frame, engines, the various modules? Then once the first two are complete, use that to do eco techs

[glacial steeple]

yeah your eco techs are kinda behind which sucks

but youll live

you get good eco from tree

your gun techs will also be a bit late

[tame latch]

guys danzig for slovakia or danzig for war?

[glacial steeple]

idk if japan can do tanks now?

[wintry haven]

What is happening?

[glacial steeple]

i dont rlly believe you have time

[wintry haven]

war

[charred fable]

I mean China will be worse in any case lmao...

Do I need to add a MIO for engines after the focus too or does that only affect the air frame?

[glacial steeple]

your starting stuf will beat china

[winter drift]

whats the best doctrine for medium tanks ofensive for the new dlc

[glacial steeple]

you only get 1 bonus

and its for frame

[tame latch]

guys when i put troops in a front line they all like go in one spot how do i make them not do that

[glacial steeple]

well 2 bonuses but they combine into 1 tech yk

[charred fable]

Air force... sell off the fighters, and develop CAS asap and refit CV's with CV/NAV right?

[glacial steeple]

why sell?

good against china

[charred fable]

Thought inter war were pointless tbh

[glacial steeple]

i mean the old ones are

but they still do CAS damage

[charred fable]

No I just meant fighters I'd sell

[fluid wharf]

no

carriers

u make fighters

[glacial steeple]

CAS no work without fighter

[fluid wharf]

good fighters

carrier fighter shreds nav like crazy

its genius pdx coding

striking again

[charred fable]

Carrier fighters don't target nav do they?

[fluid wharf]

they do

[glacial steeple]

the balance is a bit off i feel

[charred fable]

Well Japanese ones do, but that's cause they're flying into them lmao

[glacial steeple]

maybe its just me but having axis win air every game

while allies get no doctrines

kinda unbalanced

(besides uk and us they get doctrine)

[charred fable]

So carrier fighters only will sink ships? I fail to see how, but I'm happy to take your word for it or lose my whole navy

[glacial steeple]

victory!

[fluid wharf]

well right now carriers are kinda useless

their only purpose is to serve as shield against any navs

[glacial steeple]

have we gone full circle

[fluid wharf]

yes

[glacial steeple]

back to CL spam

CLs are better at patrolling too i think

[charred fable]

I legit sunk UK and US navy with Italian CV's pre-Graveyard of Empires or whatever it was... the meta changed that much since?!

[glacial steeple]

no but like

carriers can be hard countered

IDK if the ai will do it

but if something can br hard countered thats usually very bad for the weapon

[charred fable]

As long as they're protected by screens and BB's, what's hitting them?

[glacial steeple]

nothing

but they also wont hit anything cuz protective carrier fighters are OP

[fluid wharf]

its an issue from this patch

[hardy sable]

what's the point of building escort carriers? they can only carry 40 planes, go with 26 knots, and costs 5200ish. Normal 1936 CV can carry 80 planes, go 30+ knots, and only costs 9500 ic. I don't see the point of escort carriers

[glacial steeple]

you answered your own question

its half the cost

for 80% of the planes

[hardy sable]

ot costs 15% more for the same amont of planes

[glacial steeple]

oh wait you said planes not deck space

im a bit dumb

[charred fable]

Soooo it's not necessarily wrong what I was thinking, but its currently bugged?

[azure jetty]

Are there any mods that add political trees to saudia arabia

[fluid wharf]

ye

[dense stone]

Is there a way to declare war on a country and bypass "They have a non-aggression pact with faction leader"?

[glacial steeple]

leave the faction?

[dense stone]

will it give bad penalties though?

[charred fable]

Okay, so just go carrier fighters and my CV's won't die, but won't particularly do much killing either?

[fluid wharf]

yea

well ur ships wont

if u start with cariier u dont even need to make them

[charred fable]

Just shit out CL's?

[fluid wharf]

battleships

ligh cruisers

anything

[charred fable]

Shame. I wanted a fun naval game

[tame latch]

yo guys im about to invade poland can sm1 join vc kinda walk me through it

[primal moon]

How do i stop this stalemate

They just have so many divisions

[charred fable]

...oddly historical

[stuck garnet]

hey is it worth to get 3 production cost on mech (on anarchist spain) if i can't afford the full 100 mil exp

[stuck garnet]

you're china you have a lot of manpower

produce more divs

YOU are the equipment my son

[tame latch]

XD

lmao soviets:we have more soldiers then they have bullets

[scenic nacelle]

He is Japan’s

[stuck garnet]

oh