ask-for-help-here

[spare cradle]

I just put everything on local police force unless its going to be my core soon

[pliant condor]

always put garrison on high priority

[charred fable]

What do you mean before cap?

[pliant condor]

and most importantly, make 3 collaboration governments on china

[pliant condor]

before you capitulate china

[charred fable]

What about Korea and the other one?

[pliant condor]

release korea as puppet

ignore the other one

just put it on civilian

as default

[charred fable]

I'm trying to understand the system tbh. So compliance is how much they'll work with you % wise and resistance builds up to rebellion... but what effects its growth?

[charred fable]

So I assume you're building the intelligence agency immediately and rushing the 5 departments/doctrines to get another operative?

[pliant condor]

and hire spy advisor

yes

also pro tip

when you get piercedeal on china

don't annex everything at once

annex all the warlords first by clicking on the states individually

then do a second round to annex main chin

[charred fable]

Would you make that your advisor I take it?

[pliant condor]

this minimizes the chance of yourcollab bugging out

[pliant condor]

huh?

[charred fable]

Would you rush to acquire the spy advisor with your pp?

[pliant condor]

yes

you need the third spy before you launch the collab(first one) on china

[scenic salmon]

what is the main gun for artillery tanks?

[hexed sandal]

ive been trying to open hoi4 for the first time since its free weekend and i would like to try the game out but it keeps crashing and ive been here for an hour and a half already trying to figure out how to fix the crashing PLEASE HELP

[pliant condor]

medium howitzer

[scenic salmon]

thx

[eternal marsh]

any tips for a good ofensive infantery and tanks?? I'm new and every time I try to create my owm template is shit

If you could pass me a screenshoot of it it would be very helpful

[worthy quarry]

hello, what does this box actually do?

[compact plaza]

Soft attack man

[worthy quarry]

i type in there and nothing changes

[compact plaza]

To beat the ai soft attack is key

[eternal marsh]

It tells the number of divisions you'll train

[worthy quarry]

no the text box

[compact plaza]

Artillery and your doctrine

[eternal marsh]

Soft attack... what about organization, hp or other stats?

[compact plaza]

I use 9 infantry and 1 artillery. And I super stack with support companies

7/2 used to be meta before the change

[eternal marsh]

artillery in support or in the same place as infantery?

[compact plaza]

Both is good

[inner sparrow]

7/2 was never meta

esp not before the dlc

now its a bit better but still not good

will work against ai

but never meta

[compact plaza]

That’s what I meant

Still soft attack is key

And medium flame tanks

Unless they also got changed?

[inner sparrow]

flame tanks are good

spgs are great now

just do spgs

[compact plaza]

I’ll have to put that in then

[inner sparrow]

spgs as tanks

with mechs and ur gonna be fine

like 1000 base soft without any main soft attack doctrines

[compact plaza]

Jeez

[inner sparrow]

u can boost it up to 1.5k or higher

[compact plaza]

That’s a lot

[inner sparrow]

with howy 2 tank gun

[compact plaza]

I’ll put that to use in my US run

See how it goes

[crisp creek]

hello i havent really played spain what is the best path for facist spain im just running acheavements

[compact bane]

how do you naval invade

[untold marsh]

hey guys its telling me my production lines are consuming a lot of steel and i need more to produce more aa guns

how do i produce more steel?

[glacial steeple]

in pins its 1400

but thats prob with doctrines

[inner sparrow]

yeah read what I said

exactly

[glacial steeple]

no

[inner sparrow]

with doctrines u get 1.5k

without u get 1k

[glacial steeple]

its not even that strong compared to militias

[inner sparrow]

skibbidi yungus

also why are u ignoring me in dms

[glacial steeple]

huh idk i havent been reading dms

[inner sparrow]

cap

ur gonna get nuked

[charred fable]

@pliant condor I'm curious about your early picks... I assume you just build war factories and went with increased armaments, but is that colonial affairs worth for +3 civs on korea?

[open crest]

i have no idea how the coal mechanic works, im always in deficit and i get mega debuffs

[fathom thistle]

You buy it, build infrastructure in regions where you get iron or invade countries with iron

And sum countries can expand their iron production via pp decisions

[left glacier]

Some counties start with less research slots

You can get more research slots through your focus tree

[feral forge]

how can I choose where my convoys should go trough and where not?

[left glacier]

If you click on a sea zone, you can change what sea zones you want your convoys to go through

[feral forge]

thankss

[vale cypress]

Are there any good medium/light tank designs I could use that can penetrate forts quickly?

[proper furnace]

it was four and he chose three

[left glacier]

Yeah. He only researches Basic Machine Tools, Construction I, and Synthetic Refineries

The fourth research slot is left open

https://youtu.be/WCqXIRRVZIY?t=3297&si=1cIJ6UVTPzOt8o4y

[frank bear]

DO I NEED Hong Kong for this achivment

[left glacier]

I assume so if Hong Kong is one of your cores

Hong Kong, Macau

[frank bear]

OK and you think if i go for asian democratic union and i will ask them to hand it over will it work?

[vale cypress]

I need a good medium tank design and template

[balmy dawn]

This probably isn't the flex that I originally thought it was.

[left glacier]

I am not so sure. I have not played with the new content just yet

[frank bear]

ok i will try what else do i have to lose

[left glacier]

If you are able to diplomatically, you can go for it

It not, then you'll have to prepare for war

[frank bear]

they have event only to hand over subjects and i dont know

[left glacier]

If that event doesn't work, justify war goal

[vale cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/kneel-knight-princess-gif-2124832552032785629

[frank bear]

beacuse when i did the focus to ask them for hong kong it said it does do anything\

and now i look at it and it works

[left glacier]

8/10 tanks to 8/10 motorized

Upgrade to mechanized infantry gradually

[vale cypress]

what about the tank design?

[pliant condor]

well you would only get 2 from the 3

[left glacier]

You can go for soemthing like this @vale cypress

[feral forge]

I dont understand navy anymore can someone help

[lone isle]

What am i doing wrong?

[pliant condor]

i haven't played a full game yet but I doubt if youd have time for those focus

does it give you anything else useful

focus below that

[copper birch]

You need naval supremacy first

[lone isle]

How do i get naval supremacy?

[copper birch]

Put your Navy at first/second mission and than you waiting

Tho I can be wrong, still dunno how new navy work

[tight coral]

with the new dlc what's the best doctrine

[dense stone]

Anybody knows how to fix names of states or is it a bug?

[pure valley]

hi i just bought the game and every dlc beside the new on that came out yesterday. I never played it but i have watched countless videos over the past 5 years. Should i start playing the game with every dlc enabled or not and what nation would fit for a first playthrough? 🙂

[frail cairn]

im newer to the game and this new update got me confused on naval invasions and navy supriorty is diffrent now for me.

[dense stone]

try without dlc's first, you need to get to know the basics first

[balmy dawn]

Bitt3rSteel on youtube has a great guide oon the Navy. It's a few months old, so it doesn't deal with all these new changes, but I think it's still relevant.

It definitely changed the way I play a navy. Spotting Cruisers!

[frank bear]

@left glacier unfortunatley didnt work

[rancid oar]

how can i invade a nation that has strong allies, like for example if i play as nl and i wanna take over belgium and luxemberg, the have france, and i hate when they call allies, so what would i do if the nation im going to war with has strong allies

[balmy dawn]

Somehow, Im losing Tanks. I'm not in combat. I'm not out of supply, there shouldn't be any attrition and I'm not training them.

How can this be happening?

[rustic panther]

Are you training?
Are you using a template that has tanks for garrisons?
You might also be losing convoys containing them while trying to resupply a tank division, possibly

[glacial steeple]

attrition, exercises

[proper furnace]

ohh alright thx

[balmy dawn]

Looks like it was Supply/Attrition. but how I can have 10% attrition inside the UK is beyond me.

Even now, sitting in Cardiff, they're not well - supplied

[glacial steeple]

show map

[charred fable]

uhmmmm that's not good. Any idea how to fix?

[left glacier]

You can check your combat log to see how much and where your equipment losses are coming from

[charred fable]

I don't get why I have no factories... wtf

[glacial steeple]

eco law or doing collabs

you also start with some debuffs

its ok just take china for factories

[charred fable]

Must be the collab I'm doing... damn. So I'm crippled until I can change the eco law?

[glacial steeple]

youll be fine

china is very badly set up for the ai

[balmy dawn]

That's... interesting. thanks

[charred fable]

The deficit is pretty hefty xD

[glacial steeple]

click korea map decisions when you have spare pp

japan gets a lot now

[charred fable]

What decisions? You mean the unrest ones? Korea is a puppet so its not available

[glacial steeple]

ahh yeah dont puppet probably

thats some of your steel

steel is valuable

puppet palau and the island nations though

palau will show up as non resisting

its free factories tho

[charred fable]

@pliant condor said to 😂

Uhm I have oil?!

[glacial steeple]

korea specifically?

the islands you should but korea is mid

[charred fable]

^^^

[glacial steeple]

ah yeah

its fine

saves some pp

[charred fable]

It seems like there's so much more to take into account now. I have no idea why it says I have no fuel.

[glacial steeple]

you have enough pp now tho

[glacial steeple]

you have ships stationed in an area where they get no supply (and thus no fuel)

[charred fable]

For what? I grabbed the finance minister because I still can't change law as I'm not fascist yet. Waiting on the stupid event to fire

[glacial steeple]

remember

dont apply MIO to research day 1

you need the spy advisor

[charred fable]

I have him

[glacial steeple]

you can change during china war i think?

[glacial steeple]

no army xp?

[neat widget]

So I've conquered Turkey as Iran but because I used a different focus order I am also now at war with Romania

[glacial steeple]

thats always first or second pick in vanilla

[glacial steeple]

looks fine

[neat widget]

But I can't get my ships to be anywhere but Khuzestan for some reason

[glacial steeple]

did you start researching the airframe?

[charred fable]

No, I should have probably grabbed him second as the spy was first.

[charred fable]

Nope was grabbing industry.

[glacial steeple]

whaaatt

???

[fluid wharf]

i cant peace out with japan

because the kmt cap

[glacial steeple]

its like the first thing you do

make it down to air buff

[fluid wharf]

truly a paradox moment

[charred fable]

Ngl I haven't played in months and kinda forgot

[sonic igloo]

how i can capturate france in 1 day and take all their units ??? I play germany

[glacial steeple]

have you ever played japan before?

like before update

[charred fable]

Yeah but its been a while. The way I remember it don't you rush 40's fighters then use your focus to get '44 fighters before the war even kicks off?

Okay, it's august 1936... better late than never though to start researching right? 😂

[glacial steeple]

no

you used to go for zero focus right after china war

because you couldnt deviate

and itd spawn you a plane design yes?

[charred fable]

Yeah but with the new focus tree, is that even a thing now?

[glacial steeple]

it works the exact same but you do some army focuses before you set off china timer > get airframe buff to research with bonus > take focus to lower china timer

now you get plane late 37

and china war on time

[glacial steeple]

yes

it plays the same its just different visually

[charred fable]

Well we're at where we're at, so I guess I should start developing those fighters now

[glacial steeple]

then theres a bunch of useless focuses you dont touch

let me make a short pre-china war focus order

[charred fable]

The new focus tree seems so overwhelming and visually difficult to read.

[fluid hull]

would spamming heavy cruisers/naval bombers still work as japan to beat to us navy ?

[glacial steeple]

its really like the same

tbh

[charred fable]

You're gonna suggest I restart aren't you

[glacial steeple]

idk

idrc

play as you want

[opaque fractal]

am I missing something about how new navy works or do you seriously need to build a new naval hq just to be in the med as France?

[glacial steeple]

step 1 is find the focus tree you need to actually look at

everything below is too far ahead of time everything to the right and left is ahist or navy

[charred fable]

So I've been taking the first two in industry then purge kodoha and working down the tree, but that's when you have to wait for the event

[glacial steeple]

heres the first 6 most important focuses

im not too confident about whats best after that

i crossed out all the useless focuses you should never do

[scenic nacelle]

When rb Japan guide

Smh

[glacial steeple]

you could spend 70 days to remove 5 US war support

but thats kinda trolling imo

[glacial steeple]

omg chris

look at one of the focuses gives (they all cost 25 pp)

you can civboost your enemies like crazy 😍

[scenic nacelle]

Interesting

Can it be used on everyone?

[glacial steeple]

everyone in asia 😭

that isnt your puppet i think

its useless lmao

[scenic nacelle]

So no axis buffs ts pmo

[glacial steeple]

spending focus time on that 😭

[scenic nacelle]

Imagine spawning 2 civs for every axis nation

[glacial steeple]

which btw

they can reject the spirit as well

that is so unbelievably useless wow

[rigid turtle]

x

[balmy dawn]

They made Borneo "impassable"... interesting

[glacial steeple]

they should make sky mountain impassable

west papua

[fluid verge]

how do you get national leadership as a warlord

they made it straight up impossible

1943 and i still cant get it

i cant even break past 20%

trying to do things as kumul khanate and its just impossible

if i at least stole a bunch of other warlords' land

[spare solstice]

yo what is the meta now for inf and tanks?

[glacial steeple]

this should work

infantry kinda sucks at holding

[spare solstice]

is inf with arty good?

[fluid wharf]

I just realized if u don’t own any dlc

U actually have less doctrines to pick from

[spare solstice]

also would this work with mp?

[fluid wharf]

Against inf yes

[spare solstice]

i saw TD got production redecued also

[fluid wharf]

Yes

But their biggest buff is from doctrine

[spare solstice]

alr bet

[inner sparrow]

not really

its like alr for sp

[spare solstice]

what abt with the doctrine

[inner sparrow]

yeah

even with it

[spare solstice]

damn

what would u suggest then

[inner sparrow]

still suffers the same issues as before

[inner sparrow]

tanks

make spgs

[spare solstice]

spgs?

[inner sparrow]

this

[spare solstice]

ah ok

and a regular 18 width inf for holding?

[inner sparrow]

sure

[spare solstice]

alr bet thanks

one more thing

what abt for a minor

like turkey or smth

[inner sparrow]

inf

take sfp as main doctrine, cw reduction sub doctrine

and then go for those that give u stats that u need

like break, soft, hp/org and so on

read through the sub doctrines and try out if u are unsure

[spare solstice]

alr sweet bro thanks

[inner sparrow]

np

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt give breakthrough

thats what infantry lacks on the offense

its attacks are generally fine regardless

sure arty allows you to do a bit more per width but you need breakthrough

flame tanks, recon tanks, even just 1 tank batallion does a lot for that

[spare solstice]

what gives me the breakthrough then the other doctrine?

ok thanks

[glacial steeple]

offensively oriented batallions

artillery gives a small amount but its really not a lot

[spare solstice]

what if we cant do space marines tho which is inf and tanks right?

[glacial steeple]

then you only have support companies

thats fine

[inner sparrow]

flame and recon tanks are support companies

and dont count as space marines

and give great break

[spare solstice]

ahh i see

and you have to make a facility for those right?

[inner sparrow]

for flame yes

[spare solstice]

for flame atleast?

[inner sparrow]

but its worth it, great terrain buffs

[glacial steeple]

MEVs as well

[spare solstice]

alr sweet

whats a good flame tank?

[glacial steeple]

if you start with 5+ civs

and dont immediately die when war starts

always make a land facility

[spare solstice]

what are those?

[inner sparrow]

anything that stacks break as high as possible

[spare solstice]

kk

[glacial steeple]

engineers but better

its for no dlc too

[spare solstice]

oo sweet

and i need a facility for that aswell?

[glacial steeple]

yes

its the only no dlc land project lol

[spare solstice]

lol

[fluid verge]

did they just make the game unplayable or something

i have no idea what im doing wrong anymore besides not having enough divisions

and thats a big maybe

[glacial steeple]

who are you playing whats the issue

[fluid verge]

kumul khanate

im not sure if i should cooperate with the nationalists or go opposition bc i barely have much beyond sinkiang and japan attacks early

i tried to cooperate with the nationalists but i cant get enough support to take national leadership

[glacial steeple]

oh yeah they SUCK

[glacial steeple]

join japan?

[fluid verge]

like im at 20% support all the time

[glacial steeple]

leech off of the invasion

[fluid verge]

i dont think ill get cores on all of china

[glacial steeple]

chinese army trash

japanese army a lot less trash

[vale sable]

guys so when I patrol and strike force and my strike force joins a battle from a spotting cruiser how can i see the spotting stats that were added to the battle

[fluid verge]

idk its over

idk how u get more percentage

[glacial steeple]

by larger army, larger eco

[ornate gale]

why aren't the paratroopers launching bruh

[glacial steeple]

do you have enough air supremacy

[ornate gale]

yep

[fluid verge]

i dont think eco is doable

[glacial steeple]

both zones?

[ornate gale]

yep

[fluid verge]

this probably is bad now let me guess

this game is so ass

[glacial steeple]

its a division

pretty good at holding

[ornate gale]

bug perhaps?

[fluid verge]

what about attacking literally anything

or lemme guess dont use inf for that instead you must build mechanized units with medium tanks as basically sinkiang

[vale sable]

guys so when I patrol and strike force and my strike force joins a battle from a spotting cruiser how can i see the spotting stats that were added to the battle

[red mesa]

you can use inf, you just have to make the division bigger with good supports and ideally use special forces

[glacial steeple]

you could use mountaineers

[fluid verge]

i dont have an industry

like the best i can do is make a shitload of guns

[stoic lichen]

https://youtu.be/f37yAfW8YbE?si=e4Caf01S2FFlPJHq is there a way I can do early anschluss like he did in this video or atleast a way I can do it before the Spanish Civil War? Because he does Rhineland to Organize Wehrmacht to Fuhrerenzip to Todt.

[sand ember]

Just make a 2w division with the xp you get from Rhineland and spam out like 100 of them

Put like 22 factories on guns at the start of the game

Day 1 so they have efficiency

and you’ll be able to do it after todt

[stoic lichen]

I typically do 23 factories on inf but Ill try 23 infantry

[winter hinge]

what can i do to encircle ts

[stoic lichen]

inf equipmetn yk

[tight coral]

with the new dlc what's the best doctrine

[sand ember]

Well more still works of course

I think 20 works? But I don’t feel like risking 6 minutes of my life to test it

[sand ember]

GBP and superior are the best top ones im pretty sure

Sub doctrines are more dependent

Just look for good buffs until someone makes a list

[tight coral]

sfp? is it now useful lol

[sand ember]

They changed doctrines so yeah

At least I’ve been told it’s good

Haven’t actually looked lol

[stoic lichen]

from personal experience dont push into istanbul until the second time u encircle them, but take the units u already encircled, then retreat back, do it a second time and then push into istanbul aswell then into Turkey and also if u dont capitulate Turkey by WW2, then they will join the Allies.

[winter hinge]

yeah, the problem is that i cant get the last tile to fall

what can i do

[stoic lichen]

huh wym

oh

so basically

you gonna put like 2 divisions on istanbul

[honest atlas]

how do i trade with my friend in multiplayer? hes afghanistan and im iran

[sand ember]

You just

[stoic lichen]

then all the rest of them turkey frontlines divisions

[sand ember]

Buy stuff from him

[stoic lichen]

go to that encirclement and not a single division will be left not fighting

put that attack order on aggressive then activate it yk

there isnt much more I can tell u

[winter hinge]

alr thanks

[honest atlas]

how

[sand ember]

Press the trade button

Click a resource he sells

Find him on the list

Buy it from him

[honest atlas]

ok thanks

[winter hinge]

worked out @stoic lichen

thanks twin

[stoic lichen]

you mean like 1 infantry in the division, right?

[sand ember]

Yes

[stoic lichen]

aight bet

imma try that in a test run rq thx

[fluid verge]

how tf do u actually take over china as kumul khanate

like is there a way to farm more war score

[stoic lichen]

I can spam out precisely 203 of them do I keep training them all and dont I convert them?

[sand ember]

No they have to be deployed lol to let you do Anschluss

And they need to be 100% equippped

so don’t deploy things that don’t have full strength and don’t train any of your starting units

Until Anschluss is done

[stoic lichen]

Aight

[carmine drift]

can someone explain this

this is road to 56 btw

[red mesa]

bugged event. Apparently they've just uploaded a hotfix which corrects this

[carmine drift]

ok so how do I fix it

[red mesa]

if it hasn't auto-downloaded already you relaunch steam and hopefully the workshop download will start automatically

[stoic lichen]

So lowk I deployed i think about 121 of them and including the ones in training, I still didn't have 500,000 manpower in my army

[sand ember]

huh

[stoic lichen]

I didn't convert them either and they were all full strength

[sand ember]

It’s 24x their army size

Not manpower

Or is that no dlc or something

[stoic lichen]

Twin I dont got Götterdämmerung 😞🤚

[sand ember]

Oh in that case I have no idea

What are the requirements?

do they need to be fully equipped?

[stoic lichen]

500,000 manpower in the field and 50,000 guns in the army

[glacial steeple]

this update is awesomesauce

you can get 100% reinforce rate

[sand ember]

If you have 50k guns, try converting a bunch of your 2ws to your normal infantry and you should fill in the manpower?

Idk if it checks if they have full equipment

[sand ember]

Balance is paradox’s passion

[stoic lichen]

So ig without gotterdammerung you gotta do it after Legion Condor

We so cooked

Imma try to get gotterdammerung but idk if I can twin

[glacial steeple]

no

just need to make more gun

[carmine drift]

so like what 50k in the logistics?

[glacial steeple]

in the field

in units

[stoic lichen]

About how many factories on guns

[glacial steeple]

you know that if you assign factories day 1 they all get the full efficiency of the line yes?

[carmine drift]

its 50k guns now?

[glacial steeple]

so probably like 20-25

[stoic lichen]

Of course

[glacial steeple]

for no dlc yes

[carmine drift]

bro why are they increasing it

[glacial steeple]

irs always been like that?

[stoic lichen]

I did 22 and I typically do 23 with other strata

[glacial steeple]

yes

thats with gotterdammerung

[carmine drift]

i know but they need to stop bro

[glacial steeple]

without dlc you need more

[carmine drift]

istg its gonna be 10 million guns required

[stoic lichen]

How many

[glacial steeple]

50K guns flat

so like all your factories

[fluid verge]

how do u farm warscore as a warlord

like in the sino japanese war

[stoic lichen]

Dang

[fluid verge]

or should i just do rival government bc they "fixed" border conflicts

considering i have cores on some of the states

[glacial steeple]

why would you not

you get important buffs then do that for cores

ohh

are the kumul max core china now?

peak

[winter hinge]

Is it normal for Yugoslavia to attack me out of the blue when conquering turkey ? @stoic lichen

[stoic lichen]

Every time I've played Greece I've never seen that happen

[olive pine]

why cant i get supremacy?

[winter hinge]

Exactly

[stoic lichen]

Dang

[winter hinge]

Bro I had 80% of turkey

[stoic lichen]

Wait

Did Yugoslavia join the Axis?

[winter hinge]

No

[stoic lichen]

Dang man Im sorry

Not much I can do much for you

[winter hinge]

Hahaha

[stoic lichen]

Just uhh id reccomend seeing if it was a focus or smth you did and getting ready for the next run (early game greece is pain)

[winter hinge]

I’ve played hoi4 for 84 hours and all of them are playing Greece over and over again

[glacial steeple]

ok i should play this

[winter hinge]

From past experience with strategy games I’ve learned that you get good by playing weaker roles first

[olive pine]

its the opposite for hoi4

[glacial steeple]

eh? not rlly

[olive pine]

best way to get good is just to play germany over and over until you learn all the stuff

[glacial steeple]

i played small nations firsy

[olive pine]

then you can do whatever

[glacial steeple]

just play whatever lets you lock in and read

germany doesnt incentivice that at all

[olive pine]

different for everyone ig

[winter hinge]

Yeah

Hoi4 is an insane game tho ngl

[glacial steeple]

its okay

learn infantry-air warfare

japan is rlly good at it

if you wanna play (economic) a small but kinda hard major

but its very core-gameplay oriented

[olive pine]

does anyone have an answer for this?

[glacial steeple]

use your better stats, better equipment

good generals

[glacial steeple]

strike force doesnt give supremacy anymore

it amplifies the amount you have from patrolling

[winter hinge]

@olive pine how many hours have you got

Bro having 42 divisions as Greece ready to invade uk seems crazy to me as a new player

[olive pine]

i dont get it

so i have to patrol first?

[olive pine]

1500

[spare cradle]

does the kaiserless kaiser germany bug ( where they dont fix uncertain future ever) still exist

[stoic lichen]

I was at that point once, it is probably one of the nations with the most potential in the game

[hasty belfry]

What’s a good template solely for guarding ports?

[spare cradle]

afaik no, just leave navy on strike force until you need to split subs or something idk navy LUL

i have less hours than you lmao

just watch a lot of bittersteel

[glacial steeple]

yes

[spare cradle]

i probs shouldnt be giving advice here lol

[glacial steeple]

and then strike force still wont do anything by itself

its like a modifier

[olive pine]

when was the last time you played dude

the newest release has completely new mechanics

[spare cradle]

today

i just havent watched a video on navy

since the new dlc i mean

[winter hinge]

Why is navy that complicated

[spare cradle]

because i play hungary mainly i dont know navy lol

[winter hinge]

I thought the meme was ironic

[olive pine]

it says the fleet isnt going in

[hasty belfry]

Also, does a patrol fleet just need light cruisers and destroyers?

[olive pine]

i assigned the task force and theres nothing saying its working

"No reachable strategic area"

[glacial steeple]

cuz you need an admiral on your hq

i think

[olive pine]

im very lost

what do you mean

[glacial steeple]

naval headquarters building

[sour tinsel]

Is there any downside to switching to War economy because I can’t tell any?

[glacial steeple]

assign a guy to it

[sand ember]

no

not really

[sour tinsel]

Oh wow

[olive pine]

i have never heard of a naval headquarters building

where would that option be

naval supply hub?

[honest atlas]

whats the point of promoting these guys and how do i arrange them?

[olive pine]

they become your field marshall

[honest atlas]

what does that do?

[olive pine]

its basically just general of the generals

provides buffs to infantry

[honest atlas]

so would it be smart to put this guy with higher stats as that?

[olive pine]

yeah but if you have a really good general its better to assign them to shocktroopers

[soft jungle]

with the new dlc it says i can integrate chinese states as japan but it only anexed them and gave me compliance is there a way to truly get them integrated as cores?

[honest atlas]

is this guy really good?

[olive pine]

Hes ok, as iran you have to grind your generals traits first before getting any use of them

[glacial steeple]

ship sail in sea = supremacy

[olive pine]

do you have to research the headquarters?

[glacial steeple]

you have 1 sailing boat (a pre dreadnought hull)

[honest atlas]

why does it say this?

[glacial steeple]

no its just dlc then i think

you just need to set ships to do boating

[olive pine]

you already have him assigned as a general

[glacial steeple]

a field marshal is a general for your generals

[olive pine]

you need to reassign him as a field marshall

[glacial steeple]

your field marshal is in a general role

therefore it wont get field marshal buffs

because hes being used as a general

[olive pine]

so i should combine my subs and main fleet?

[glacial steeple]

no

i was just showing it

[honest atlas]

oh ok thx

[glacial steeple]

you want to reach this benchmark according to the game

[sour tinsel]

Ethiopia collapsed like a year ago why does it still say im at war with them

[olive pine]

my issue is the fleet wont get assigned to the area

even though its already there

[real wagon]

uhhhh is this normal?

I have 60 destroyers set there and this is the max supremacy I can get

and japan doesn't have any ships there btw lol

[cerulean abyss]

should i build mils or civs from the get go as japan

[red mesa]

you were too slow and they exiled the goernment

[sour tinsel]

Deadass?

[glacial steeple]

yeah destroyers historically suck

[red mesa]

check the war screen

[sour tinsel]

Like the entire British Empire is callable

[red mesa]

nope

but to end the war you'll have to cap the UK

[sour tinsel]

What why

Thats stupid

[red mesa]

exiled governments have been in the game for years man

[sour tinsel]

Ok? Ive been in the game for like a week

[latent mural]

should i make land based fighters as japan or just use carrier ones? and whats a good spotting composition for navy after the naval dominance rework

[red mesa]

understandable

[sour tinsel]

So I have to capitulate Britain to end the war?

[boreal hamlet]

I’m using trash destroyers for patrol works fine

[left mica]

What confuses me is why strike force doesnt give dominance

[red mesa]

yeah. But you aren't at war with them yet, so just chill and do other things. In future if you want to prevent this you need to cap the ethiopians in 3 months or so

[boreal hamlet]

Dominance of strike force is facilitated by patrol

[sour tinsel]

Whatever man

[left mica]

wow not even a single non-generic guy

[red mesa]

technically Hasan Arfa isn't generic he just has a generic portrait

He was an actual Iranian officer

[left mica]

Thats sad

[red mesa]

shameful really. He has easily available photographs so a portrait would take a few hours at most

[left mica]

goe really has nothing going for it

[tranquil kayak]

anyone know how to unblock my resources?

[glacial steeple]

afghanistan

[left mica]

honestly

[glacial steeple]

actually all nations are pretty fun they just manage to not stand out

[left mica]

i only considered goe because of mass mob communist india with 1.2cw divs

[red mesa]

would be so much more fun to play if you could actually change gov't without getting a cw or having 60% party support

the tree is actually pretty good

[glacial steeple]

i love civil war

lets you grind generals fr

[boreal hamlet]

It has to repair if it’s red

[glacial steeple]

actually the strat might just be to have a bunch of 2ws now

so you can grind mastery on yourself

best as communist so you dont run out of manpower

[balmy dawn]

Which airframe is best for Aerial Recon? Do you need a whole Wing?

[red mesa]

the marx-man-printer never ceases to be funny

[glacial steeple]

hmm

i was gonna do the big china run

[boreal hamlet]

Recon wings are 19 planes

10

[glacial steeple]

but now i kinda wanna play afghanistan again

[red mesa]

do it

[balmy dawn]

til

[left mica]

Best medium airframe you have. Do full extra fuel tanks

make a single model and produce it for the entire playthrough. No need to upgrade to better airframes since you would be wasting your production efficiency

[hazy mesa]

hi can someone help me how to play hoi4

[left mica]

Actually dont use interwar frame. If you dont have basic go get it

[glacial steeple]

i think ill go communist the long way

[left mica]

Just take it slow and steady

There will be a lot to learn and this update only added so much more

[hazy mesa]

ok

[left mica]

I would start by checking out tutorials

[boreal hamlet]

The new dlc just came out yesterday. Everyone is into that right now

[left mica]

but… i would wait until someone releases a new tutorial for this update

[hazy mesa]

whats the best nation?

does it depend?

[glacial steeple]

a bit

[glacial steeple]

strongest?

[left mica]

No such thing as best nation

[glacial steeple]

individual? in what way?

[left mica]

probably germany rn

[glacial steeple]

theres definitely stronger nations

[left mica]

i forgot just how poor japan is

[glacial steeple]

ussr has the highest potential strenght

japan/uk best potential navy strenght

[left mica]

germany has the most bonuses though

army bonuses

[glacial steeple]

germany has the best strenght for a few years

and is practically the most powerful

but you need skill/thought/gameplans to really take advantage of any of these

same as argentina is the strongest in south america until 1938

when it gets overtaken by brasil

[left mica]

Doing navy with 4YP can be a bit tricky

[glacial steeple]

for a certain timeframe and certain situations nations can be better/worse

its up to every nation to find the timeframe its strongest at and use that as a resource to beat its enemies

[hazy mesa]

i always do a 1v1 and then out of no where im getting doubled

[left mica]

How many hours do you have

[hazy mesa]

i js started

like 2 hours

[left mica]

and first thing you did is 1v1 someone

take your time and learn first

pro tip: don’t just take people’s advice or instructions at face value. Grasp what’s going on and make sure to read what’s shown to you

hover your mouse over all the icons and read through all the tooltips

For example see what stats a battalion type or company gives

check terrain modifiers

Failing to read the tooltip is why people used 9/1 for so long (sorry bittersteel)

[flint crag]

What suppose i do for unify china? this guy refused to submit and I cannot expel or dissolve him from the faction.

[balmy dawn]

1V1 multi player? That's just begging for a bad time lol

[left mica]

Just use console commands if nothing else works

[cold bloom]

Theres a kick button in the memberlist of the new faction overview

[flint crag]

Yes

For ideology countries

And expansive countries

But

Is neutral ideology

And not do anything

[balmy dawn]

I LOATHE this language.

They mean almost the same thing, but say it differently.

And there's no green and red checks, so I have no idea what I still have to do.

[flint crag]

If i change to facist

I can ban neutral ideology?

[glacial steeple]

look at my sick army

[cold bloom]

I wonder if that could have to do with that toolpack menu is see on the side

[glacial steeple]

no its all 2 widths

mastery grinding 🔥

[boreal hamlet]

You can set your faction to accept only one ideology

[cold bloom]

How much does it give?

[glacial steeple]

idk im finding out

[cold bloom]

In a very aggressive game I got my 400 mastery of like 3 years of war

[fluid verge]

u can core all of china

[glacial steeple]

more

you have 2 formables

[glacial steeple]

3 years of civil war sounds dreadful

[flint crag]

But i have to change ideology right?

Neutral ideology to facist

[balmy dawn]

Quick, someone tell me not to build this absurdity of a Naval Bomber

[flint crag]

Do it

[balmy dawn]

Cost-wise, it's actually pretty efficient.

[fluid verge]

yes

turkestan and greater mongolia

[scenic nacelle]

i learned with that

[opaque osprey]

do you need the new dlc to ask to use another countries airports or is that just a general update?

[left mica]

maybe

[left mica]

think its for base game

no reason to make it dlc exclusive

[glacial steeple]

a bit but its rlly painful

[quasi cloak]

do i change todt?

[honest atlas]

how do i bewcome allies with my friend whose afghanistan and im iran

[royal gazelle]

man im struggling to pick which path to choose for communist japan, both the left and right r rlly juicy

though i think im leaning towards the ability to core all of asia

[latent mural]

did the line artillery update make it better or is it still not worth it

[scenic salmon]

so for tanks, going superior firepower or grand battle plan is better than mobile warefare?

doesnt it lock you out of breakthrough tactic tho?\

[edgy pendant]

You can get a lot by spamming 4w divisions until you reach 100,000 deployed from them and train all them

[honest atlas]

how do i become allies with someone

[lucid torrent]

In MP? No. In SP? Yeah, it is solid now.

[scenic salmon]

either have same enemy at war, have same political alignment - fascist, communist, democratic, nonaligned

easiest way is just to have a same enemy ur at war with and then trying to get them to join ur faction that way

[balmy dawn]

Why is it that I can convert foreign navies into "converted cruiser carriers", but I can't convert anything else?

[wheat forge]

Can anyone get me the stats for tank destroyer force armor subdoctrine.
Am theory crafting but am at work so cant pull it up and since its still new cant find anything online.

[wheat forge]

Thanks, hate to ask, but can you get it with the full mastery list? Owe ya

[scenic nacelle]

dont know how to make it all one screenshot

[wheat forge]

If you hit that small book in the corner when looking at all the subdoctrines it'll lock open all the future mastery bonuses when you hover over the doctrine, should look something like this once done

[graceful dragon]

any way to grind mastery without going to war and without losing a lot of equipment training?

[wheat forge]

Attaches might be the only option that won't cost you equipment but will take the most time

[scenic nacelle]

i literally just figured it out a minute ago but thx

noooooooo

not the skull emoji

[graceful dragon]

and if not i just have to train like 40 width and lose 5% of the equipment training ;-;

bruh

[scenic nacelle]

its so over

[graceful dragon]

🐥

[elfin sorrel]

ive been put into a theater command thing by one of my faction members

[dense flume]

Picking unit mastery options are those fixed or can other trees be added?

[elfin sorrel]

can i leave it or edit it or am i just stuck in it

cause i wanna make a different one to get buffs where i actually need it but im stuck in a random one the ai made

[dense flume]

Because they grind the whole chain

Grinding mastery in MP games looking not feasible, players will get nuked first

[edgy prairie]

WOULD ANYONE BE WILLING TO PLAY A GAME WITH ME, iM TRYING TO LEARN THE GAME AND SINGLE PLAYER ISNT HELPING MCUH

[dense flume]

Do the Italian tutorials first and read the wiki

[fossil rain]

is this a good navy

[royal gazelle]

anyone know how portugal randomly surprise warred me? It's late game and the allies once again are fumbling, portugal is in axis, i never remember them having any war goals on me then randomly they declare war on me so now I suddenly have 1000 axis divisions breathing down my neck from my chinese possessions

[merry shell]

I cant even train or patrol my own coast rn, am I doing something wrong???

[fossil rain]

why aren't my ships shipping in in this region? I just want the naval supremacy but now they aren't getting outa their ports

[vital geode]

Set a new homebase

[gray forge]

even after the dlc im still failing ever single border clash i start, how the hell do you win them

[fossil rain]

the naval headquarters?

huhh

I can't even build it

im launching it from British territory

ughh i hate this

the naval dominance is going up to like 14 percent, then it drops down

I put all my ships on patrol cus it increases dominance

but I can't put it on task force

cus naval dominance is

0

helpppppppppppppppp

[serene karma]

U need some on patrol and some on strike force

Then wait a bit

And make sure theyre all in range

[fossil rain]

i have subs on patrol and my surface ships on stirke force

[serene karma]

Not red like in that photo

Subs give little supremacy

[fossil rain]

ive waited a long time

[serene karma]

Send some surface ships

[fossil rain]

I have my entire kriegsmarine docked in bermuda

it says inaccessible region?

[serene karma]

Yes u need a closer base

Wheres ur closest home base

[rapid urchin]

how does one earn "mastery" for the new doctrines?

[serene karma]

Training and fighting and attaches

Like army xp

[fossil rain]

uhh, like probably near the uk tbh

actually I own greenland

[vital geode]

Your home base is Wilhelmshaven

[azure terrace]

I cant get these two achievements on Iron mode even though I believe I meet all the requirements? Is it a bug or am I missing something?

[vital geode]

Set your home base to somewhere closer

[fossil rain]

ohh

[fossil rain]

how does one do that

[vital geode]

Just click the gear cog thing

Automatically changes it for you

[vital geode]

Manchuria and Mengukuo exist

[fossil rain]

im kinda retarted...where?

production tab?

[serene karma]

Top left

[vital geode]

Right next to where it says wilhelmshaven

[serene karma]

I would circle it but discord locked remix feature

[fossil rain]

OHHH

i see it

i got it

[serene karma]

Make sure to have a mix of strike force and patrol

Yes

Only for them

[fossil rain]

mhmm

[serene karma]

Used to be for everyone

[fossil rain]

tryna find the closest base

[serene karma]

Discord is mean

[fossil rain]

lmao

[vital geode]

It was so useful

[serene karma]

fr tho

Instant editing

[alpine dove]

what strategy are people using for communsit japan civil war

[fossil rain]

shuold I set the naval base at Europe? or here across the atlantic?

most of them are euruope based

the ones im finding are british cities on the coast or french cities on the english channel

or casablanca

[azure terrace]

Im dumb jesus thanks

[lyric halo]

Is anybody’s crashing whenever playing China? Literally any every week after March 1937.

[fossil rain]

I picked Labrador

[hushed gorge]

does anyone know how to get the 5th battalion now

with the new dlc

its the bottom row of division templates

[fossil rain]

one thing, I had two taskforces of submarines, and the majority was on the eastern seabord which already had my surface ships so I removed it from there and put it on the adjacent seazone, but now the naval dominance went down there?

[languid trout]

is state of burma bugged

[fossil rain]

i got it thanks

[fossil rain]

thanks

[alpine dove]

stealing navies is still the method

[fossil rain]

absolutely agree with you

[fossil rain]

https://tenor.com/view/romania-gif-9303829863785054258

is this how I do theaters?

my naval invasion force in the south near florida is kinda high on attrition, and it's not good, can this theater stuff help with that

[viscid merlin]

does anyone know why i keep getting a different version error when i try to join my friend, we both have all the dlcs and no mods, we have uninstalled and reinstalled as well as verified the files together

[azure terrace]

I cant get these two achievements on Iron mode even though I believe I meet all the requirements? Is it a bug or am I missing something? Only one I got was Genghis Khan't.

[dreamy egret]

Can anybody tell me how to move soldier by boat

[lucid torrent]

Which doctrine is best doctrine now?

[fossil rain]

maybe Tibet?

not sure tho

[gusty briar]

Select the units u wanna move, move them to a tile with a port.

Once they arrive in that tile, while they are still selected, right click on the port u want them to sail to

[dreamy egret]

Thank you

[azure terrace]

It was tibet for the first achievement but the second one I think is bugged idk.

[fossil rain]

Oh, them its probably just bugged due to the dlc then

That's my guess

[gusty briar]

Does anybody understand how exactly the naval dominance ticking works? I get that u need patrols in a sea zone for ur strike forces in that sea zone to contribute, but does the amount of ships on patrol matter? Or does just having an active patrol all that matters? It seems like on never engage doesnt tick the dominance up, do difference engagement risks effect how fast dominance ticks up?

[soft canopy]

Same, my guide, based on many years experience and combinations with known streamers doesn´t work anymore.

Even AI can´t hold their costs.
Japan lost against stalin (he invaded japan?!?!)
same with facist france and UK - UK lost.

An example:
I played before this update as UK, beat usa in early game. Killed his full fleet pretty fast.
I can´t hold my coast now.

Played a coop game few mins ago, me as USA.
I played the same way like 4 years.
I can´t even hold my coast, 0 dominance.

I saw many other posts in steam that there are so many problems and questions.

I mean, even the nations with the biggest navy lost against nations without ships.
Whats this?

I mean, stalin AI invaded japan and killed him.
France killed UK.. no way that´s normal.

[gusty briar]

Well at least that means my fear as a single player minor player that capping the UK just becomes impossible isnt the case, but that means my other fear that its very doable bc the AI doesnt navy well is more likely lol

I mean I guess in a way its interesting that it changes the deathstack meta, u need at least 2 strike forces 1 for ur shores and 1 for invasions.

But im just curious about the actual math of the ticking

[balmy dawn]

These new Focus Tree's are huge. Where to even begin?

[hasty belfry]

What’s the Chinese warlord that has a few focuses to make it Turkic?

Ok thanks.

[dreamy egret]

Is Brian rot against rule

[edgy pendant]

Wrong channel

#server-rules

[dreamy egret]

What is base value

[edgy pendant]

Wym

[dreamy egret]

What does Wym mean

[fossil rain]

what you mean

what do you mean

[dreamy egret]

That base value

[edgy pendant]

Initial value before buffs or debuffs

[dreamy egret]

Is there a limit how many questions you can ask?

[glacial steeple]

100,000 per day or less

[dreamy egret]

100,000 question?

[glacial steeple]

yes

per day

[wild rune]

minimum

[dreamy egret]

Are infantry equipment that add by ae command the newest

[edgy pendant]

Maximum

[foggy stratus]

is the new tutorial good?

[dusty dagger]

Does anyone know when the Steam Key will sent after buying the stuff on the webshop?

I bought it on cn.heartsofiron.com

I paid a month ago. But I havent got the key yet.

[somber berry]

why doesnt france EVER accept federalization? (im belgium, i've done the save-load if they refuse strat... they ALWAYS refuse.)

[fossil rain]

I think the limit is a little more than that. I wouldn't appreciate someone asking 100,001 questions per day

[gleaming anvil]

hey guys, wanting to learn nay playing as japan. is it true that you cant refit fx basic ships to never hulls? if so, when i unlock a new navy hull do i have to build an entirely new navy?

is the old ships even worth it to have?

i know how the misions, compositions and desings work, its mostly that of building a navy/organizing it that gets me

mostly with nations with large fleets

with so many old ships

[sand ember]

so do i need 400 4ws (100 of each unit type) to grind all 4 masteries effectively?

[glacial steeple]

yes thats how it works but you shouldnt waste research time on navy

its bad to do

[gleaming anvil]

why? what if i want to build a stroing navy

plus i want to learn it

[sullen tundra]

does anyone know how to prevent yamamoto from being killed

[glacial steeple]

use your starting techs? theyre more than good enough

a large portion of naval combat is also air

having naval bombers

[gleaming anvil]

sure, but isn't it good to learn how to build a navy, plus i like that aspect of the game

[glacial steeple]

you should invest into your airforce and stick to the coastline to win navy

[glacial steeple]

yes and you do that with the starting techs generally

the newer techs use insane amounts of steel frankly no one has for marginal increases

with the hull being okay? but its just a better investment to get air and units that will bring you places

[gleaming anvil]

i know that it isn't optimal

[glacial steeple]

your first and foremost goal as japan is to take indonesia for oil, to keep the rubber from the allies

with those resources and factories from india, australia possibly you have a much better base to work from towards the S

US*

its like real life, the US was not japan's main attacking goal

and neither should it be yours

[gleaming anvil]

whatever

[glacial steeple]

im just trying to help

i like doing and building navy

you can make adequate designs with your starting technology is all

which will win battles

by a lot even

[gleaming anvil]

you design your navy one time and thats it though

[glacial steeple]

if you insist heavily on researching, only the chassis and armor techs will help you forward

[glacial steeple]

do you have infinite naval xp and fuel?

theres a reason the navy command of japan wanted indonesia

[gleaming anvil]

again, didn't ask for optimal research or strategy. i asked for tips for organizing your navy

[glacial steeple]

well

more stats in battles generally win

[manic shale]

Hello! I’m Hungary main here I’m currently making Habsburg empire but idk how much division I shd have?

[glacial steeple]

by a lot

[gleaming anvil]

especially with big navies with a shit ton of old ships

[glacial steeple]

it isnt like land combat where you can have stuff like ties or long winded battles

the loser in a naval battle usually gets wiped out

what you should focus on is lowering the visibility of ships (hit chance) having things like carriers (with 10x bombing efficiency compared to land based bombers, they will prioritize ship targetting based on hp and with a 4.0/x4 modifier for capitals)

light attack will deal efficienctly with enemy screening ships

submarines destroy your navy organization in battle so i would recommend seperating them

with the new system you might also want to create a smaller fleet for patrolling zones? but this is highly dangerous as it will leave them isolated from the main striking force

and in an engagement they could die

[edgy pendant]

Death stack

[sand ember]

does a division have to have equipment for mastery traiing?

[neon girder]

wtf

[edgy pendant]

Don’t think so. Could be wrong though

[glacial steeple]

test as china?

or sichuan theyre even worse equipped

[sand ember]

i am not so sure

i have 60 unequipped tank divisions

i am gaining basically nothing

[edgy pendant]

Equip them and see if it changes

[quick rock]

As Nationalist China how do I take generals of other warlords? Before I could integrate them and I get the generals, now when I annex I don’t get any.

[neon girder]

wHY IS FRANCE SO OP?

[supple quiver]

cuz u playing 1867 germany

[neon girder]

no 1937

[supple quiver]

1867

[neon girder]

wdym

[dense flume]

what is the difference between militia and irregulars?

[young hill]

Yes iirc

I think someone did a test yesterday

[sand ember]

i just checked yeah it does

[glacial steeple]

irregulars have hp and terrain buffs

[sand ember]

fuel too

[glacial steeple]

militia have better doctrine available

[glacial steeple]

so china no equipment train strat is dead?

[young hill]

Yes?

Why do u think I nuke army size

Idc abt strength delete in that game

I care abt mastery

As many fully equipped 50w u can have, ghe more mastery u get

[glacial steeple]

forcing you to have a million unequipped divs

[manic shale]

What’s a good war strat? Like how do I use encirclements? And how would I make good invasions

(In Hungary POV)

[dreamy egret]

What does mp stand for

[manic shale]

Military police

[young hill]

Multiplayer

Or manpower

Use context to guess which one it is

[latent mural]

can i put i put bombs and torpedos on a naval bomber and use it as both cas and naval bomber or should i have 2 different planes

[glacial steeple]

2 different is better because naval bombers tend to die more and more CAS damage is great

but 1 is fine

[fossil rain]

never played Japan before

someone help me

(im on a-historical)

I mostly just need help with my divisions and with China

do I delete or change my divisions to the good ol reliable infantry? is there another unit I need to be making? NAVYY????? and then lastly, what do I do with China

[dense flume]

is the wiki updated since the new patch?

*dlc? hard to make a wiki with so many variations

[pliant condor]

go to war with them(obviously)

make 3 collaboration government mission on china

keep 12 hohei shidan and change the rest to the 12 width

add some marines to the hohei and add support artillery to the 12 width

or it doesn't even matter the new china has nothing

[fossil rain]

gotcha, ill just make my good ol inf then lmao

[latent mural]

is there any way to delete the josetsu shidan template for japan its locked and theres no focus or anythign to edit it

[fossil rain]

what about navy

what do I do with them

im probably gonna avoid war with the US

[latent mural]

like making it or using it?

[fossil rain]

using it

[pliant condor]

combined them into a fleet?

i mean as long as you don't split it it doesn't matter at all

just make cruiser subs

you start with it

[fossil rain]

ohh ok, ill make those

[pliant condor]

there's no point in building ships