modding

[sour mirage]

we should get proxy chat

[ancient kelp]

promixity chat in hoi4 is wild LMAOO

[rigid crest]

what file is it to change default division speed or just division speed for a country

this is the closest thing to what i want but idk how to change it and i only want to change germanys unit speed

[dusk cargo]

is it just me or did some mods just break

[spice knoll]

just add a modifier
I don't think you can edit specific country stat for a unit directly

[rigid crest]

how do i do that?

[spice knoll]

try look at doctrine, they give country specific bonus to some unit. Now create a new modifier (by copying it and change the id) give them that on game start via event or other way.

[rigid crest]

the most modding ive done is changing the view distance in hoi4 i have no clue how to do that 😭

[lapis flume]

why dont u just give them a new national spirit modifier: division speed

[rigid crest]

cuz idk how to

[lapis flume]

as a starting spirit

oh

well idk how either i gotta remember

i just know i was doing that

[spice knoll]

I think spirit can only give equipment bonus but not subunit itself

[rigid crest]

how would u do it then

[spice knoll]

ok nvm you can do what aki said

[spice knoll]

and you found the right modifiers

add an idea at common\ideas. add a modifier = { } section inside the idea. Add modifier to boost specific unit (the modifier list is the screenshot you captured) inside the modifier section (so like modifier = { modifier_army_sub_unit_mountaineers_speed_factor = 0.1} to boost mountaineers speed by 10%). Add the national spirit to the country in history/countries file

[rigid crest]

in here? or create a new file for germany

[spice knoll]

you can do either, whatever you prefer

[rigid crest]

well i only want germany to have it so im just gonna try that

[spice knoll]

if you want to test whether modifier work first you can try add the modifier only to an existing starting national sprint

[rigid crest]

should ii add it to bitter loser cuz they dont lose that modifier for ages iirc?

[spice knoll]

try it

[rigid crest]

would it be like that

[spice knoll]

yep

[rigid crest]

is 1 the default speed so if i want them to go lets say 500% speed it would be = 5

is there one line for all units or do i need to do _unit_infantry then _unit_tank

[spice knoll]

yep there is one for all units

[rigid crest]

oh which

im probably blind and ive been staring at it

[spice knoll]

army_speed_factor

it is not in there

[rigid crest]

so that?

[rigid crest]

oh how weird

[spice knoll]

just army_speed_factor

[rigid crest]

alright ty

[rigid crest]

thank you lol

[spice knoll]

I think the modifiers are multiplicative so might be not straightforward though...

[rigid crest]

wdym?

the divisions seem to move quicker

[spice knoll]

nvm it is not Multiplicative...

[spice knoll]

multiplicative means if other things also boost same thing it will multiply the percentage instead (I think only consumer good's one is multiplicative though)

[rigid crest]

ah ok

[frail estuary]

Is there some kind of mod that forces on historical focuses for AI if historical is enabled? So like Germany don't do Danzig for Slovakia

[ripe badge]

Hey, I seem to be having some trouble with GUIs in the research and doctrine trees

Sometimes there's lines that go over the icons instead of behind them (can provide code if necessary), what do i do to avoid this?

[arctic mural]

I don’t think bro is losing a race anytime soon

[sacred canyon]

Black ice is easy ngl

[deft zealot]

how do i make a mod that changes a portrait

[dense zenith]

can someone help me with combining mods

ik the basics of it

but ive only ever combined 2

and i wanna combine like 4 or 5

[somber belfry]

How do I open the command menu on a 60 percent keyboard

[viscid marten]

Hosting a large hoi4 modded game tonight like 8-9 cst add me for details

[languid mortar]

Say, has anyone in the hoi4 community made a mod that’s based on the world building on an extremely niche book they’ve read?

[gentle jewel]

Why states I created and added to mod just disappeared on the map?

[nova heron]

I'm doing something like that, but it's an in-development mod of a world I created myself.

[languid mortar]

Couldn’t you say that about just any alternate history mod in hoi4?

[nova heron]

I mean, mans got a point

[thin chasm]

Alright, time for some good fun

Taking a mapping mod I was working on and updating it with GOE's new states

[steel elk]

making a small mod that changes the east india company's color to the eu4 one

plus i also added some small edits to the event, which gives less ai chance if its not a RAJ core

and a even lower chance if the nation is communist

[spice knoll]

you can just make a mod that replace the dds/tga file

cut an image to same dimension/resolution, convert to tga/dds, keep the same name, make it a mod

[lethal pawn]

Can anyone here read an error log and understand why the game is crashing on start up

I was working on my mod around 24 hours ago before the mod was rolled out and it was working fain but after the mod, it now starts to crash when loading up

and im pretty new to modding so i dont really know what to look for in the error log

could anyone help me with this please, id be very greatful

this is the error im getting on launch if that helps

[frozen nova]

Hi, how can i change the color of my country just with a national focus ?

[spice knoll]

before reading the log, make sure you don't have two copies of the mod! (aka steam + local)

[lethal pawn]

yeah i only have the local version of the mod

the issue only occurs when i load the newest version of hoi4

when i revert back to 1.15.4, the mod works just fine

[spice knoll]

weird

[lethal pawn]

so it has to be something about transferring to the newest version

[spice knoll]

The new patch is quite minimal. What files you edited? I can check which files touched by the patch

[lethal pawn]

Like the last thing i edited in the mod?

[spice knoll]

no, just describe it generally

[lethal pawn]

Oh I've been working on spain. This is a mod for a server I play on and the person before me didn't really take care of the mod well and broke spain. So I was fixing it by remaking it into a new country with the same focus tree.

[spice knoll]

it seems no spain file touched in new patch, so dunno why

[lethal pawn]

Oh well I'll worry about it later

[thin chasm]

Spent 40 minutes going back over and triple checking everything trying to find an error

Before finding out, no, my modded files were fine

That's just his name

Reality really is unrealistic sometimes

[latent finch]

Guys I think he's a freeman (ironically his people aren't)

[ashen canopy]

Hello, I am a bit new around here and just doing some minor modding on hoi4. Just wanted to ask rq if anyone is willing to respond if this tutorial is still valid or if the modding has changed due to updates or what not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLkI1AGArc&list=PLt_7vUaEvaGTJ0ISBqY2v4EyfmPALiVS7&index=24

I am currently trying and failing to upload and create custom potraits for nations

[gentle jewel]

.

[dense zenith]

is there an easier way to combine mods together for an mp server or do i just have to slowly move each files accros

[torn lodge]

Anyone know how to make a music mod for me

[spiral plank]

Are we allowed to use cut content for our mods ?

There are some commented out focuses and I want to use them to make a new mod for Afghanistan

[lone hearth]

You absolutely can but you probably will have to dlc lock it with has_dlc = "Graveyard of Empires" trigger

[hard folio]

Is there a definition of the relative_force_ratio (or whatever it's called) anywhere in the documentation?

I was playing Austria and the second Yugo annex decision uses it rather than just comparing number of divisions like the other annex decisions do.

I know my army was larger in terms of divisions and quite probably in the relative force ratio too, yet Yugo kept refusing, even after I changed the random seed multiple times.
I'm wondering if the decision event AUS_political_events.119 is bugged.

[pale sparrow]

this?

[hard folio]

It was added in v1.15. it's used for Anschluss force comparison and is used in AUS_political_events.119

[pale sparrow]

ah

nah no good documentation

Ig it uses manpower instead of division count

[hard folio]

from casual mention of it in the Dev Diaries, it had to do with manpower and equipment percentage, but it might ignore divisions with fewer than 3 battalions entirely.

[pale sparrow]

Maybe it modifies manpower by equipped %

so if you got 1 million deployed but only 50% supplied itll just count 500k

[green berry]

POV: You're doing Paradox's job...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3439190136

[hard folio]

The Austrian followup Yugo decision to annex more of Yugo is unlike the other annex decisions which seem to count divisions, rather it cares about the relative force ratio and I had one army of 72 single INF battalion divisions and 6 armies each of 24 divisions which varied from 4 (CAV) to 10 (CZE INF) battalions.

I can't imagine that the Yugo force was even comparable and if I understand the event correctly, them accepting should be 20 out of 21 or 95.4% and yet it failed 6 out of 6 tries.

Which makes me question how that value is determined

[honest eagle]

borders are incorrect

also

i dont see the issue with paradox not adding egypt yet

[honest eagle]

iirc it depends on yugoslavias current situation, rng, etc

[frank urchin]

I do, but I am not home

[spice knoll]

I think nothing have changed significantly, character modding wise, between the video uploaded date and now.
I think the ones in the official hoi4 channel are good enough though, Irony is too long for me to watch.
One thing I would suggest would be make a mod that replace an existing character's portrait image file directly first to see if your file even works in the first place (make the file with same name). Maybe you set the wrong output settings

[lapis flume]

how do i make this icon in my mods

cuz i saw it reduces negative effects if ur industry grows

[heady sapphire]

what do i do to add another national spirit

[lapis flume]

well since u made the spirit
in a focus completion add:
"add_spirit = { Debt_Crisis}"

or something like that

if it doesnt work i messed something up in the text

[flint sail]

Like another spirit?

Just do like uh
Ideas = {
Country = {
Debt_crisis = {
##stuff emhere
}
Another_spirit = {
}
}
}

[heady sapphire]

Thank you

[willow zinc]

I didnt read the log but its prob. the map so check the history/states folder
And i'd recommend to temporarly move the files and then you should atleast be able to start the game.

[stuck quarry]

Anyone know a way to remove everything vanilla from the game when making a mod

Im gonna be changing most everything and want to avoid any of the base game stuff interfering

replace_path doesnt seem to really work, do i needa specify every subdirectory for it to

[thin chasm]

Yes

Whatever folder you're wanting your mod to supercede needs to be replaced in the .mod file

[stuck quarry]

so im unable to do for instance replace_path="common" or whatever and replace every file and folder in the common directory i gotta do every subdirectory aswell

[true compass]

how can i set a country i made to use the same unit models & voicelines as another vanilla country? i'd like to use either german or swiss models and lines

[west oxide]

are there any mods that revert nukes back to how they were?

[flint sail]

i love the new update, i tried playing w my mod that changes some equipment, its now crashing!

[nimble solar]

Plays with mod when a new vanilla comes out

Game crashes

Visible confusion

[celest dust]

Focuses tree to big -> CTD

[twilit pier]

takes a while for mods to update

i usually just stop playing for a month

[spice knoll]

the new update doesn't take modder a lot of time to update, unless they're vanilla plus mods and editing any country related to new dlc

[olive shell]

What did I do wrong?
peace_ai_desires = {
ai_peace_do_everything = {
enable = {
always = yes
}
peace_action_type = { take_states puppet liberate force_government }

    ai_desire = 999999999
}

}

take_all = {
peace_action_type = take_states
enable = {
always = yes
}
ROOT.FROM.FROM.FROM = {
NOT = { is_claimed_by = ROOT.FROM }
NOT = { is_core_of = ROOT.FROM }
}
ai_desire = 999999999
}

[flint sail]

i dont think that the new dlc added new subunits or anything related to infantry equipment

just focus trees, new states, leaders and others

[thin chasm]

I mostly do map modding these days, so I rearranged AFG's post-GOE states

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Provinces_of_Afghanistan_in_1929.png

Based very loosely on this graphic I found on wikipedia

[lethal pawn]

well if its that easy then please explain everything that would need to be switched over in a mod for this most recent update

[spice knoll]

I don't think equipment files have changed alot

[spice knoll]

add is_artillery_brigade scripted effect to all artillery brigade
simpilifed/removed comments
added elephant
fix the torpedo overlap thingy (changelog mentioned)
yeah only 4 changes

also some players/modders have random map error during loading, even the mod doesn't edit map

[spice knoll]

nothing wrong. It just refuses to work sometimes. I don't know why
it takes me 10 edit to force ai to puppet someone in peace confedence

[nova plume]

guys, I'm trying to make a focus tree for Ukraine for my mod that is supposed to take place in the year 1912, a year after the dissolution of the soviet union, I've made the industry part, witch includes: corruption debate, industry, navy reform and price control, like 9 in-game years of content, I've made all the revolution content, like the euro-maidan and the orange revolution, and if your corruption becomes too big you get ANOTHER protest on the maidan, if you don't know what is the maidan, its a place in kyiv that had the orange revolution AND the Euromaidan, I don't know what to add next, any suggestions?

[arctic mural]

A year after the fall of the Soviet Union? And it’s set in 2000?

[nova plume]

yes

I plan to have content untill 2030

[arctic mural]

Didn’t it fall in 1991 though?

[nova plume]

damit

[arctic mural]

Add some expansionism paths

The great Ukrainian colony of wales

[nova plume]

hmm... good Idea, I think I can make some paths towards Ukrainian nationalism, or Ukrainian Ultranationalism, if you don't know UA nationalism and ultranationalism is basically nazism but without all the masacares and they don't expand WAY too much, they will take like Crimea and a bit of... forgot how its called, the mountains near Crimea, to the east, originally it was Ukrainian but in 18th century it was attacked by Russia, or 17th, I forgot, not a big piece but a piece

[nova plume]

I hate that Microsoft ended support for paint 3d, I was using it and because I didn't like normal paint, felt a bit off, and paint 3d just crashed and corrupted 2/3 of my planed focus tree, I've remade the industry a bit different, decided to change thing up a bit and made the stalker universe become real and the 2 Chernobyl disaster do happen and the building with the documents was burned during the euro-maidan

is there any one that can say how can I improve the complete industry, economy, infrastructure, energy, navy, taxes, price control, inflation and coruption focus tree?

(note: say me and ill send the picture in private, its a starting sketch, not meant to be implemented the same as it is, defiantly by graphics)

[spiral plank]

Is it possible to make a mod that alters the color of a formable while being iron man comparable ?

I just hate the Hashemite caliphate color and want to make it dark red like the colors of the dynasty

[bleak nimbus]

im about to make my first mod and im wondering if it is possible and if it is is it hard to make a focus tree for the releasable transylvania as yugo?

[crystal sand]

Ok does anyone know how to fix this? This is the only time I have had this issue. Tried quite a few times and even a few tutorials nothing seems to be working.

[thin chasm]

Try making your image the correct size

[flint sail]

yea

[thin chasm]

Can't be a square

[flint sail]

156x210 px

[crystal sand]

I did

Ill just try resetting and trying again

Much better

[bleak nimbus]

what is the please select the vanilla instalation folder thingy that popped up?

im making my first mod

[carmine igloo]

okay, i'm making states mod and everytime i do everything like official paradox video tutorial says, it breaks name of every state in the game, how do i fix this?

[thin chasm]

What do your entries in the localisation file look like?

[flint sail]

try deleting the localisation folder in paradox's hoi4 folder inside documents

[spice knoll]

literally go to line 6 and look at 14th character as it says
check if it is missing quotation mark
if yes just add it back
that's how you read error log

[nova heron]

I honestly suggest Iron Workshop, I did a bunch of official stuff and it didn't work out no matter how hard I tried, but I did IW and it was perfect

[sharp knoll]

Afternoon, gents. I need help with something

This is a code for a tech that allows a new ship type, which I have defined in another file. I listed it as a sub tech of the early carrier hull, but I cannot see this tech as a research option.

    enable_equipments = {
      ship_hull_cruiser_carrier_1
    }
    enable_equipment_modules = { 
      ship_cfi_rear_deck_space_1  
      ship_seaplane_tender_1        
    }    
    research_cost = 1.75
    start_year = 1922
    ai_will_do = {
      factor = 0.5
      modifier = {
        not = {
          any_controlled_state = {
               
            is_coastal = yes
          }
        }
        factor = 0.2
      }
      modifier = {
        OR = {
          tag = ENG
          tag = USA
          tag = JAP
          tag = HOL
          tag = FRA
        }
        factor = 4
      }
    }
    dependencies = {
      early_ship_hull_carrier = 1
    }    
    on_research_complete = {
      hidden_effect = {
        country_event = mtge_hybrid.1  
      }      
        }
    
    categories = {
      naval_equipment
      cl_tech
      ca_tech
      mio_cat_tech_all_capital_ship_and_modules
      mio_cat_tech_all_screen_ship_and_modules
      mio_cat_tech_all_cruiser_and_modules
    }
    special_project_specialization = { specialization_naval }
    }
  
  basic_ship_hull_cruiser_carrier = {
    enable_equipments = {
      ship_hull_cruiser_carrier_2
    }
    enable_equipment_modules = { 
      ship_cfii_main_deck_space_1
      ship_cfii_mid_deck_space_1            
    }    
    
    categories = {
      naval_equipment
      cl_tech
      ca_tech
      mio_cat_tech_all_capital_ship_and_modules
      mio_cat_tech_all_screen_ship_and_modules
      mio_cat_tech_all_cruiser_and_modules
    }
    special_project_specialization = { specialization_naval }
  }```

[spice knoll]

you have define which tab it should go to I think?
e.g

        folder = {
            name = naval_folder
            position = { x = 0 y = 11 }
        }

[sharp knoll]

Ah, thank you

Now to figure out where it goes so the tech tree doesn't look weird

How do I give it a tiny icon that fits at the corner of the average ship hull tech like in mtg expanded?

Instead of a full icon

[spice knoll]

you meant like motorized rocket thingy?

sub_technologies = {
technology_name
}

[proven sage]

how am i supposed to understand the new focus trees by files, i remember in the older ones it went from left to right, which was nice, since then you could delete whole focus paths, but now it looks like its going from up, to down, which is making a lot of mess when i wanna modify and remove some paths

[hexed moth]

How to use mods when you dont have hoi4 from steam

[lofty plaza]

Care to elaborate?

[sharp knoll]

So all I'm missing is the folder apparently, since this is already listed as a sub technology

Thanks

[spice knoll]

Check if mod are available off site, then download e.g tno available on nexus
Uncompress and copy the mod to documents/paradox interactive/hearts of iron IV/mods
the final step has two way
go inside the the mod folder. Pull the .mod file out
Open the .mod with notepad. Then add path="themodlocation", change the mod location to actual mod location
The second way is just install irony mod manager and let it do the job for you automatically

[spice knoll]

There are visual studio code plugin to preview focus tree without launching the game if you want to try it. I forgot the name. I think both iron workshop and official hoi4 yt channel mentioned it

Basically prerequisite to draw a line between the focus and the prerequisite focus

[proven sage]

debug also works for that, its rather the sorting of the coding of focus trees from paradox that is giving me issues. but i am fine with it now

i am pretty experienced modder already, but Paradox sometimes brings stuff that does not make me happy at all in coding sometimes

[spice knoll]

Oh I understand what you meant now, sorry for misunderstanding

[proven sage]

yeah, i wrote it a bit weird 😄

[paper fossil]

The on_research_complete block in early_ship_hull_cruiser_carrier has mismatched brackets

on_research_complete = {
  hidden_effect = {
    country_event = mtge_hybrid.1  
  }  # Missing closing bracket here for hidden_effect
}

And lacks condition there

any_controlled_state = {
  # Missing condition here (e.g., has_controlled_by = ROOT)
  is_coastal = yes
}

factor = 0.5 base weight is very low for nations like UK/USA/JAP

modifier = {
  OR = { tag = ENG USA JAP HOL FRA }
  factor = 4  # Increase priority for naval powers
}

[cursive atlas]

is it possible to refresh the game when selecting a country? that way i dont have to close and restart hoi4 to see my modding progress

[paper fossil]

Only partially, depends on the specific things you need
For an example, these could be refreshed via console:
reload technologies
updateequipments
reload focus
updatesubunits

[cursive atlas]

what if im modding things in localisation and gfx? (party names, leader portraits)

[paper fossil]

Use reload localization via console for localization

But gfx is a bit more tricky, one sec

gfx_rebuild could do the thing for some parts, but this is not reliable for all gfx changes, especially portraits, but u could try anyways

[cursive atlas]

i will try. thanks for helping

[paper fossil]

for portraits u could also try forced save/load strategie

save your game, then load that save

[cursive atlas]

is that also something i can do through commands?

[cursive atlas]

okay

[paper fossil]

this is just a workaround, so I don't think that there is any console commands for this stuff

[cursive atlas]

alright

[sharp knoll]

Ah, figures. Thanks a lot

[paper fossil]

or starting a new game, which will also hard-refresh the portraits

[paper fossil]

[mint oar]

i have a bunch of these in my error log: "[15:02:22][no_game_date][nationalfocus.cpp:628]: Error in focus: GER_silence_hitler (common/national_focus/germany.txt:119 )
relative_focus_id: GER_oppose_hitler_ww does not exist. Relative focus must be scripted before this."

The thing is that it does exist, this is how the code looks

[paper fossil]

oh yeah right

dependency problem with your national focus tree

[mint oar]

wdym

the relativer focus does exist

but it says it dosnt

[paper fossil]

Ensure that GER_oppose_hitler_ww is defined before GER_silence_hitler in the germany.txt file

should most probably work

[mint oar]

you mean that it should be under it in the document?

[paper fossil]

above

something like this:

focus = {
    id = GER_oppose_hitler_ww
    ... (rest of the GER_oppose_hitler_ww definition)
}

focus = {
    id = GER_silence_hitler
    relative_focus_id = GER_oppose_hitler_ww
    ... (rest of the GER_silence_hitler definition)
}

and also double check for the IDs

[mint oar]

so the GER_silence_hitler should be UNDER the one im refering to?

not DIRECTLY under

but needs to come after it, if im getting it right?

[paper fossil]

not necessarily directly under

[mint oar]

i got that

[tulip vapor]

hey can anyone help me my costume unit files are not loading such as other stuff not loading

[full raft]

Two Questions:
Does the error.log have anything useful?
And
Just to be safe, are we talking about the Things the Game refers to as Units (i.e. Battallions, Ships, Planes) or the Things Players typically refer to as Units (i.e. Divisions, Division Templates)?

[tulip vapor]

first the error.log has nothing useful in it, secondly i am talking about the history/TAG_1936.txt

[full raft]

Alright, so the oob (Order of Battle)
Have you added it to the relevant History File?

[tulip vapor]

i think not thanks

[full raft]

np

[paper fossil]

ensure the correct file naming and file location in /Hearts of Iron IV/history/units/

[tulip vapor]

it is correctly named

i just have to test it now

[paper fossil]

ok then

[tulip vapor]

where do i find the oob?

[full raft]

The oob is the File you would have been editing.
To have a country load an oob, you can either call it with an effect (loab_oob = "TAG_1936") or in your case by adding
oob = "TAG_1936" into the history File of a country.
The history file of a country is in the history Folder, in the countries subfolder.
The oob = "TAG_1936" can go anywhere but is typically at the top, you can as always refrence base game files.

[tulip vapor]

tysm

[nova heron]

Yo, I just had a real quick question about map modding tutorial, is the Iron Workshop one good/applicable to Paint.NET or is there one that you guys think is better for (eventually) creating entirely new maps?

[thin chasm]

I have only ever used basic-as-hell Paint for map modding

Don't worry about it

(Note: I have never had to modify terrain, so I don't know what the proper tools for that are)

[full raft]

It is serviceable I'd guess, but for whole Maps I'd suggest figuring out ProvGen.
Personally I never fully did, but I heard good Things if you do figure it out. https://jamestom999.wixsite.com/provgen
For everything outside of Provinces, yeah Paint.net or Gimp. (I honestly hadn't considerd that provinces might not be the main problem 😅 )

[nova heron]

Ighty, thanks!

[proven sage]

anyone has any idea why its just not mobilising? different nations dont have the issue

[full raft]

Well it's not a modding Question at first Glance, but that is India and India has MASSIVE Recruitment Debuffs you need to work through (especially with the DLC I believe, dunno the Difference) 0.12% of your Nation IS already mobilized. And you only get 0.12% because that is 20% of your conscription Law or sth of the sort. It is all as intended from what I can see

[proven sage]

wdym, 20% from 6% recruitment is not 0.12% would be 1.2%

[full raft]

0.2 (20%) times 0.06 (6%) is 0.012%

hang on

[proven sage]

ok, even if it would be, if i decrease the debuff of agrarian society it does not start mobilising or anything

[hard mirage]

guys quick question im doing a mod to change leader pictures in gfx/leaders but in some countries like sweden there is no pictures for the decison leaders and others where are they in game?

[full raft]

20% of 0.06 (base value) is 0.012
0.012 in Percent is 1.2%, yeah you right, thinking mistake.
Hm. I also get 0.12% on limited Consc.

[full raft]

That is likely going to be Leaders from DLC, so in the dlc folder, relevant DLC (AAT) and then gfx

[hard mirage]

ooooooo

okay now i see thank you

[hard mirage]

paradox moment

[proven sage]

yeah, vanilla has same issue, i see now 😂

[hard mirage]

ahhhhh

[full raft]

Raj's Manpower has always been a bit weird

[hard mirage]

and the funny no dlc all core with dlc low cores

[full raft]

sooo, I confirmed, my numbers seem correct. I will try to replicate Tobes Start

Okay, @proven sage do you have any mods active? Human Wave Offensive should give 5% Recruitable Pop

[proven sage]

yeah, its in mod, but now i am trying vanilla and it is the same issue

[full raft]

Yeah, can replicate it. Oddly though I have found neither a Bug Report or angry Reddit to that effect

[proven sage]

even weirder is, that yesterday i was fine when i played with my friends non-hist multiplayer

[full raft]

Well, whatever it is, the game doesn't consider it an Error, as the Error.log fails to spit out anything meaningful. Research ongoing

[proven sage]

could you report it then, if its not our issue? i suppose the ideas might be bugged out somehow, but i aint understanding paradox

[full raft]

I don't know my pdx Account Data, i think. Plus figuring this stuff out is what I do for fun (sometimes) 😝
But if anybody else could report it, I would be glad.
Btw. if i remove agrarian Society it mobilized, will see if human wave now works

[proven sage]

how do you even remove agrarian society? i know how to delete ideas, but not modifier ideas or whatever its called

[full raft]

I created an event that does that via the remove_dynamic_modifier effect and then called it in the console

Have exceeded 1.5% on volunteer so Human Wave works

[proven sage]

oh, cool

[west jackal]

Does anyone know if there is a mod which allows you to give the AI more than just territory in peace conferences? Right now I'm trying to partition the USSR and create occupation zones but I can only give them territory

[cinder relic]

I've used Toolpack without the Errors to do things like that, but idk anything that directly affects a peace conference

[full raft]

It looks maybe possible, though that would certainly be newly treaded ground, afaik

hmph. We have access to AI, Categories and Cost Modifiers but frustratingly the Actions themselves seem hardcoded (which is weird considering you can realize them via very simple effects we already have access to so ?)
Calling it likely not possible, but could be that I'm missing something

[full raft]

I think I have a theory. Agrarian Society also massively debuffs mobilization speed on a degree equal to the Manpower debuff, so either our Tests were just to short or it gets so close to 0 it gets rounded away, leaving us with literally 0 mobilization speed. Checking to see if mobilization speed is properly increased, but I think so. It is

[proven sage]

damn, then it might intended, but still weird

[tulip vapor]

can some one help my the country i want to change colour, but it doesn't work

[full raft]

Genuine shot in the dark: Did you change both the common/countries countries file and the colors File (located in the same folder)?
Or is this about a cosmetic tag?

[tulip vapor]

this is about the map colour

[full raft]

Right, so the color the Nation naturally has when on the map.
This requires two Entries.
For one you need a dedicated File for your country in the common/countries folder. There you set the graphical culture and a color.
Exp. (Colombia):
graphical_culture = southamerican_gfx
graphical_culture_2d = southamerican_2d

color = { 222 187 91 }
Notably though, the Color used by the map is typically not this one. Typically it uses the color defined in the colors.txt, with the Colombia Example:
COL = {
color = rgb { 222 187 91 }
color_ui = rgb { 255 243 118 }
}
Add both for your country and it should have a color.
Note: There may be other Issues appearing like "no color" which have more to do with the Presence of the Nation itself, but I will assume it is actually caused by an improperly defined color.

[tulip vapor]

graphical_culture_2d = middle_eastern_2d 

color = rgb { 76 153 0 }
COS = {
    color = rgb { 76 153 0 }
    color_ui = rgb {{ 76 153 0 }
}```

[full raft]

You need to have the TAG of your own nation for the entry in colors.txt

[lapis flume]

how do i make a timed spirit repeat every year

for example for russia every winter they shall get "winter advantage" spirit for like 90 days

[full raft]

That is more difficult than it has any right to.
Two Options I see at first glance:

1. On actions and Variables
2. Events and some quite jank Triggers for the same
   Elegant and robust or jank and simple, what'll it be?

[lament venture]

Does anyone know where is tank designer UI and land combat calculations located in game files?

[full raft]

The Formulas for Land Combat Calculations are hard coded, but you can change quite a lot of the Base Assumption in that Formula via the 00_defines.lua file.
The UI for the Tank Designer is stored in gfx/interface/equipmentdesigner/tanks, though where the Arrangement is coded, I don't know.

[lament venture]

Thanks!

[full raft]

FYI, this might be helpful https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Land_battle This can get quite complex

[proven sage]

technically could be done by in on_actions on-monthly-(TAG) (if = month is January) add an idea, but i am simplyfing it a lot thought

[lament venture]

Okay thanks, I was asking this because I were thinking to making new stat, which would affect damage done in battles.

[full raft]

sadly month = january is not a trigger far as I can see

[proven sage]

yeah, i think you can do it by dates

[lament venture]

Also can I call other variables when editing txt files?

[full raft]

You can do a date. A date, a specific one, not a month. Then again, I have seen months around, though never used. I think just in localization?

[full raft]

depends

[rare grove]

What's more important for hoi4 focuses realism or balancing?

[full raft]

Whatever you want 😉

[rare grove]

Has to be balancing tbh

[proven sage]

i mean basically each year manually written in, and then make each trigger only trigger once, but would likely cause more issues than solution

[lament venture]

Okay.

[proven sage]

but i suppose there could be something, since autosaves do that

[full raft]

Yeah, my solution would be to... hang on.
We make a hidden event which adds the timed modifier and triggers itself in 12 months, boom ,done

[full raft]

autosaves are way out of modding scope afaik

[lament venture]

I think it depends what you are adding. Maybe the way is to make it follow history but balance it not to make too OP. For example if its like allies planning on normands landing then you could maybe split it to multiple focuses, which all give smaller buff alone but together strong as one focus would be

[proven sage]

is it? i mean i didnt look into that stuff, but the solution you did, yeah. might be easiest way to do it

[full raft]

It completely depends on what you want to do. No one is giving out rules for this, beyond ordinary human rationality.
Like, there is a mod about leaving your House with custom Map, Foci, everything
Equestria at War is beloved
Fuhrerredux gets insane in parts and thats the whole gag (okay maybe not whole)
That new Order mod I forget the name of is geared to end in Nuclear War to hammer home the horror of the nazis winning

Do. what. you. want.

[full raft]

Are you referring to combat Tactics? Those can be added via the combat_tactics.txt file in common

[lament venture]

No, I was thinking to make a stat for batalions, which affects their dmg so i need to change land battle equations

[full raft]

No? Just change the Unit itself. As in Battallion.

[lament venture]

Yeah I know its that, but I was just exampling for example how to for example balance thing

[proven sage]

like adding "mid attack" 😄

[lament venture]

Yeah

[proven sage]

tbh, i think that is hardcoded, but i dont have the research done into that

[full raft]

Oh, well no. You can't do that, if I understand you correctly now. The Formulas are hardcoded as can get.

[lament venture]

Yes but that stat is useless if its not used anywhere. I need to add it to units, which influence to dmg

[lament venture]

okay

[lament venture]

Have to try to figure this out other way then

[full raft]

Right, what exactly is your Goal? What do you want to model?

[lament venture]

Maybe to do it through from another variable in equation

[proven sage]

you would have to walk around the hardcoded stuff, TFB navy is also going around it by like 8 files, so my guess everything is possible, but may take much more time than you want

[lament venture]

I am thinking of making a mod about camos, which would affect dmg done to the unit. I am planning to do special unit, which has more camo than normal unit and also adding equipment for tanks to give camo. Camo would weaken dmg done to the units in battle depending where the unit is battling at

This might sound stupid but I was planning to do so

[proven sage]

technically you could change a used stat already, such as armor

[full raft]

First suggestion: Dynamic Modifier and utilize terrain_penalty_reduction to your advantage. Hide enough from the Player and you might fake it

[lapis flume]

i think i understood that i just dont know where to put that

[full raft]

As you can intialize Variables once your in game

[lapis flume]

also did i cook

[full raft]

I mean, I don't know the Context, but it seems neat

[lament venture]

Yeah I think i am planning to do it this way now

[lament venture]

Thanks

[proven sage]

just do as pokewars said, do hidden idea that goes for 9 months, and then after it runs out, then it swithes to the idea, that you want (you could do it that your idea would add back the hidden idea, and then it would repeat always when it would be triggered) or the other way around, depends on what you want

[full raft]

Yeah that also works, but I was thinking more recursively. Literally just have an Event that has two effects: add_timed_modifier and country_event with itself as the result in 12 months

country_event = {

id = example.1
is_triggered_only = yes
hidden = yes

option = {
    name = example.1.a
    add_timed_idea = { 
        idea = buff_idea
        days = 90 #~3Months
    }
    country_event = {
        id = example.1
        days = 365
    }
}

}

Right so, like this. Fire this for the Soviets at game Start and they will get buff_idea every january for 90 days

[lapis flume]

alright thanks alot both of you

[full raft]

no prob~

[outer birch]

guys how to remove this for forever , when I click OK and singleplayer and run the game it works fine soooo pls help

[full raft]

Keeping such errors around is ... not advisable. Matter of fact, if you launch the game without -debug mode, it will preemptively crash when there are errors in the map definition. The easiest (and afaik only) way to get rid of that error message would be to fix the issues.

[thin chasm]

Probably didn't update the buildings

[quaint spear]

Rise of Nations isn't working, when a try to pick a country in any scenario. It just crashes

[full raft]

I'd suggest you check in on their Discord Server, but from what I can see on the Workshop Page it is currently broken. So ... yeah.

[quaint spear]

alright thanks alot

[flint sail]

go to nudger and press "buildings" or something like that, it's prob a building error in the map

[dawn shard]

dont use nudge tool you can do all the same stuff with some simple typing without bricking your vanilla files

[winged idol]

anyone has any clue why my stability is dropping 1% per week? Millenium Dawn

[full raft]

From the Modifier "Preserving our Traditions"

[lethal pawn]

My game is crashing whenever i open the details page of a general, the place where you see all the traits. Does anyone know whats happening?

here is a video of what is happening

here is the code for the general

[lofty plaza]

What does the error log say

[lethal pawn]

I dont know what to look for in the error log so ill just send it here

[full swallow]

This question is more me asking if something is even capable of being coded in rather than like asking about an active problem I have

but

Does the hoi4 engine allow for events or the such to affect the strenght of a division that's already on the field

Say for example

The elite troops the spanish nationalists start with when the spanish civil war fires

Is it possible to create an event where for example those specific divisions and no other divisions

Suddenly lose like 200 manpower

At a divisional level

[covert pulsar]

anyone know how to extract/view the 3d models/sprites used for units from a mod?

[proven sage]

Depends on what exactly you want, if you want to lower strenght of Units like Template based (decreases strenght of units that has this "template name") or you could decrease strenght of Units within states, possibly provincies, but not sure about that the provincies

[lapis flume]

i tried this a couple times and it doesnt work
because how will the game know which country to give the idea to (or even which country to fire the event for)
it isnt supposed to be Soviets, its the russian state, the country i screenshotted before, this is how the code looks like right now

lord have mercy.

[dapper wadi]

My damn custom map mod keeps crashing

Need desperate help.

[lapis flume]

did u only modify gfx or by custom map do u mean like continents

[dapper wadi]

Continents

Like

Custom map

[lapis flume]

then i dont know shit

good luck

[dapper wadi]

Fuuuuck

Contains lots of errors also

[lapis flume]

mine only contains errors cuz i overwrited normal games files

like focuses and events that i didnt need

[lapis flume]

update: i fixed the code and now it works upon firing it, but the player wont use the commands so how do i make it happen naturally

[dapper wadi]

Could say its the same case for me

[dapper wadi]

The game wont open in debug mode.

[lapis flume]

oh i got a genius idea

there are startup events right?

[dapper wadi]

Wdym

Events as in game event?

[lapis flume]

well like when you select a country and start the game in kaiserredux u would get a startup event

i tried doing the same thing for the hidden spirit and ofc it didnt work

[dapper wadi]

In my case no

Tell me your idea tho

[lapis flume]

well since firing a national spirit isnt natural for a player, i tried making something like a pop up event on start to immediately activate it for winter (since its january 1) however it didnt appear even tho i put the event ID in the country history file

[dapper wadi]

Ah 💔

[bold lantern]

Hello, is there any site with information for writing mods?

[lapis flume]

probably hoi4 modding wiki

what do u mean by writing

also gadies and lentlemen im finished for today

[dapper wadi]

Im gonna cry

The last time i launch the mod is fine

Now.

[lapis flume]

did u check error log

cause i sure didnt

20000 errors are a lil much

😊

[livid lynx]

Dunno if Lily is in this server but if she is I want her to know I took this as a personal challenge 😌

[outer birch]

guys how can I change the country color of a puppet country

[livid lynx]

(If you're here, lily, I've refactored it lol, lmk if you want the files)

[bold lantern]

Thx

Do you know how to make your own state_category? Is it necessary to transfer to the state_category file in the mod the already added by the developers categories of states?

[lapis flume]

you mean if you want to modify a state it should be the same from the core game files?

if that, yes

thats how i created a new country

[bold lantern]

I mean should I move for example "pastoral" from the game files to the mod files?

[lapis flume]

no, copy and paste it

then modify it

[full raft]

You should be doing nothing in the game files.
If your mod files need to overwrite basegame Files, just name them the same and they will.
So to change Game files copy them to the mod and change em there.... like Aki already said more compactly 😅

[lapis flume]

right

im just annoyed in debug cuz the game events and focuses break when i overwrite it (or "delete it") from the inside.

[full raft]

Yeah I saw the stuff with the event.
on_startup should work, yea

[bold lantern]

Thank you both

[lapis flume]

and it did work, thx again

[full raft]

Oh yeah, debug modding can be good for initial testing but a proper Test needs a restart

[lapis flume]

i understood that but like everytime i open the game i'm hit with a 30000 word essay of an error log

so i cant actually see what i screwed up with

[dapper wadi]

I ddid

10k something

Errors.

[lethal pawn]

Hey do yall know whats going on here?

[full raft]

... What is your Error Log Spammed with? Guessing sth with Map`?

[full raft]

Same question ^

[lapis flume]

it could be either cause of the version, DLC not enabled, or you screwed up with the files. i dont mod that yet so idk sorry

[full raft]

Have you checked error.log

[lethal pawn]

im pretty new to modding so i dont exactly know what to look for in the error log

[dapper wadi]

6 megabytes left...

[lapis flume]

with failed triggered events, unexpected tokens and focuses breaking
(for context i deleted events cuz its 1920, not 1936 so they have nothing to do with each other, i also deleted most focuses of other nations except Yugoslavia, Poland, soviet, and white russia, all other mayors have default focuses. i also got an error with turkey cuz they REQUIRE the bosphorus demilitarize event shit)

[full raft]

Anything. Beyond the first maybe five there should be nothing there. (You can check Vanilla errors by loading debug without any mod)

[lapis flume]

also unable to load characters?

[dapper wadi]

ISTG, last time it was fine

[lapis flume]

cuz i made a new country based on algeria it just spawned in random advisors

[dapper wadi]

even if i have to open it with debug mode

[lethal pawn]

well the mod im working on i took over from a long list of other people. all who ignored fixing the errors in the error log

[lapis flume]

if u didnt change anything idk what it could be

[lethal pawn]

and now the error log is a novel

[dapper wadi]

im guessing this could be fixed if i could actually rewrite all files

[full raft]

Okay yeah, same Problem in all three cases kind of.
Option A: Go find the broken files, copy them into your mod and make them empty dummy files, so they overwrite basegame without adding errors.
Option B: Get to work with replace_path but that has a good chance of blowing up in your face If you don't know what exactly you are ignoring.
Option C: Don't be so liberal in deleting stuff. Overwrite/Delete only what you need

[full raft]

For you specifically though, even if it isn't fun, I'd suggest a good bit of debugging

Makes me consider offering a debugging service 😅

[dapper wadi]

btw most of the errors are caused by vanilla nations

[full raft]

Still caused by you though.
For example if you rip out say the bulgarian faction System, there are a lot of files referring to it, that are now trying to interact into the void and breaking

[dapper wadi]

exactly...

[lethal pawn]

i mean the code of the general is ripped straight from vanilla. There are few thinks i can think of too look but ill try. its not a high priority for me though

[dapper wadi]

how do i stop the game to uhm yknow

not trying to find it

[full raft]

Option A. Get the Files, that are out there looking and remove the parts where they are looking for it. The Error.log will (usually) give you the proper File and Line so it shouldn't be hard to find. I'd caution against removing to much though, so the Void expands as little as possible. We basically want to close it after all

[lethal pawn]

have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in

[dapper wadi]

is this how custom map mod makers do 💔

[rare breach]

satisfying states still hasnt updated

used to be a good states mod

[full raft]

It really depends on how much you change. Fully custom map makers will go hard on replace_path, which can be added to the descriptor/-.mod file to stop the game from loading entire categories of files, though you will need to ensure some basic replacement so the hard code dont break

[bold lantern]

How to add localisation to country name

[dapper wadi]

ive added couple, i dont know what to add again

[full raft]

Like any other customisation. For simplicity https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Localisation (Hoi4 Wiki is our friend)

[dapper wadi]

events...

hold on

[full raft]

Are you doing a full overhaul? And how much have you modded before?

[dapper wadi]

i guess you could say that

its my first time

[full raft]

Like with new Map and everything? That is ... quite Ambitious for a start.
To get an understanding of Pdx Code here is a suggestion: Play the game and whenever something annoys you a bit figure out how a mod could fix it and then add that fix to your personal Vanilla Fix mod. That way you can play the game and figure out at a leisurely pace.
For full overhaul... Know what you are getting into. It is no surprise the almost most ambitious type of mod.
For help with replace path
https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Modding#replace_path

[lapis flume]

so ur saying just because i ripped out bosporus remilitarization im breaking britain and soviet events

surprising yet reasonable

[full raft]

Yes. Because both Britain and Soviets have events relating to it.

[dapper wadi]

it was supposed to be a worldbuilding project with my friends

[full raft]

A Playable one or just for the sake of the World?
I'm also an fantasy-author (Debatably) so I can tell you, Hoi4 is not good for worldbuilding but i have some suggestions that might be

[dapper wadi]

both 50/50 actually

once i get rid this of the errors ill be on my way

[full raft]

Sorry, but that may take quite a while. Map modding is infamously error prone.
I'd suggest doing the World and to not try modding it into hoi4 until you a) have a solid, unchanging Idea of the map (including terrain and such) and b) understand a good bit of modding, because you will have to code, well, everything basically, that the game needs to function. That is a lot less than vanilla has, but way more than it can seem at first glance

[dapper wadi]

i know

but wont launch while in debug mode is too much

[full raft]

But, like Linux I will not stop you because I think its a bad idea.
The Paths you'll want to replace are
every common/ai_* (Will need basic replacement)
common/characters
common/countries
common/decisions
common/dynamic_modifiers
common/game_rules (will need basic replacement)
common/ideas
common/intelligence_agencies
common/military_industrial_organization
common/national_focus
common/on_actions
No guarantee that it includes every common/ that might cause errors or doesn't include excessive replacing, but this feels like a good start for the common/ folders. (more might be needed outside of common, lemme know if i should list further) (Alright, already spotting excessiveness 😅 )
Now to respond to the message you sent while I was writing 😅

[full raft]

When during loading does it crash?

Does it generate error.log beforehand?

[dapper wadi]

yea

[dapper wadi]

the one i sent here

[full raft]

When is not a boolean Question?
What does it claim to be loading when it crashes? (Assuming Loading of Main Menu)

[dapper wadi]

its loading

and crashes when near finish

[full raft]

Yes, but at the Top it will say what it is loading at any given Time. What does it say right before crashing? (I expect Checksum, but dunno)

[dapper wadi]

something about naval strategy something something

i forgot

had to check again

[full raft]

Calculating Naval Distances?

So then your Errors are bound to be Map Stuff (Which heavy Voice not big surprise)

[dapper wadi]

oh yeah that

[full raft]

Can I get a list of what replace_path you have?
Some of these errors look quite weird, but clearly connected replace_path

Lot of stuff that should be replaced trying to refer to things that shouldn't be

Ummm. Did you update your province definition?

[dapper wadi]

i think i did(?) but i forgot whats that incase i forgot

[lapis flume]

will subscribing to my own mod break the hoi4 launcher

[full raft]

Oh lord. If you want to manual Province mapping, be my guest, I'll get you room for like ten years. May I suggest ProvGen? That should do it for you automatically, though all typical considerations of third Party Programs apply, mainly I don't know if it ever breaks, cause I don't map mod.

Anyway, Province Definition is where you tell the Programm, what properties the Provinces have. Which you need to do for every Province you have and that count in base game easily crosses the 10k mark.
The Program recognizes, that your map and definitions can't align and crashes

[lapis flume]

cuz it will have 2 of the same items

[full raft]

Lol. Yeah hoi4 launcher is beyond ... I think even the perview of the actual devs. I think that is some Paradox Team for all their Launchers

[dapper wadi]

what can you give me example of province define?

[full raft]

I think this might help: https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Map_modding#Provinces
Though interestingly, looking at this maybe broken provinces isn't our proximate crash cause

[lapis flume]

damn

lord have mercy im gonna get criticized so much

[full raft]

I guess don't subscribe to your own mod or pull the local copy out for testing

[dapper wadi]

oh yeah i think ive might forgotten

[full raft]

Honestly from the errors it might be the weatherpositions honestly.
Dunno if Provinces causes a debugger crash considering that the nudger generates a fixed file (apparently)

Also, put the replace_path in both .mod and the descriptor file. I think only one needs it, but putting it in both works, so thats what I do to not need to remember, 😄

[dapper wadi]

yeah... ive been figuring that out..

miss the time when the game does not shat on me 💔

[full raft]

Is that already a custom map? Guess I have to adjust my view of your experience level upward 😉

[dapper wadi]

yea

i was taking a break for a few month

then when i load it again now it crashes

[full raft]

Huh. Well they did update the Province map rather recently. Maybe that collides or sth? It's either some update or you forgot why you were taking a break in the first place 😉 😅

[dapper wadi]

yeah 💔

[lapis flume]

cool focus icon if its yours

[lapis flume]

chat you know when u click new game and u have interesting countries
ideas wont show up even tho the code is right

[full raft]

Don't argue with a computer, it does exactly what you (and other people) tell it to 😉

[lapis flume]

fair point

but it cant be an error

[full raft]

Yeah, already looking 😅

Theory: "avaliable =" has no value, it tries reading the idea block as the input for available, bricks itself and then moves on, skipping over the "Broken" bit

[lapis flume]

why did i even add that to RST and not other countries..

thanks i think its that

[full raft]

You can test by givin available = { always = yes }

[lapis flume]

b i g b r a i n

oh also i asked this a while back but didnt get a response
i have a focus that gives 2 military factories but upon completion they show up like 30 days later

by show up i mean they start working

[full raft]

That... okay that is WEIRD.
add_construction and instant_build and everything?

[lapis flume]

if its something bad i missed again i swear

[full raft]

Obvious is obvious: That should not be happening. And nothing in the code implies something like this happening, actually I wouldn't know how to make it happen, if i WANTED to.

Like do they show up and just sit there, without being assignable or what?

Is 408 cored?

[lapis flume]

when the focus completes i see them in vladivostok's building slots

yes its cored

after 30 days they add up to the military factories in production and start working

[full raft]

can you make a screenie directly after you completed the focus? (Tip you likely know: You can use Focus.IgnorePrerequisite and Focus.AutoComplete to get it quickly. Just type focus. then tabulator to get Suggestion from the console)

[lapis flume]

its supposed to be 5

also i have 3 focuses in the focus tree and each takes 14 days

maybe im too quick for the game?

[full raft]

What? no That... that would be extremely weird

[lapis flume]

focus.nochecks is the same as focus.ignoreprerequisite btw
saves u alot of letters 😭

[lapis flume]

fair.. TWR does it in like 15 days

you know what just in case im gonna make every focus 35 days

to see if it does immediately spawn

brb

[full raft]

nochecks is available and prerequisite, well prerequisite. Unless nochecks does both? Huh, testing required

[full raft]

why would that have any effect on the matter? Then again I dont get the error so shot in the dark is all we got ig.

[lapis flume]

yea it still spawns in 30 days later

hmmmmm

i'll check core game focus example

[full raft]

I cannot sufficently explain how weird this is.
Ah, you had an overflowing error.log, right?

[lapis flume]

yea, why?

[full raft]

I was thinking we should check that. btw. what is it overflowing with? You don't have a custom map after all...

[lapis flume]

yea i pray for that dude with the custom map

anyways,

i found 3 main overflows:
texture handler (and couldnt find texture files)
ai strategy
triggers

also flag textures..

maybe because i made russia get tannu tuva in the start

[full raft]

...noooo. Okay, triggers I get, ai Strategy all day. Flag textures I would take a look at, but texture Handler? That should have four-five from basegame and then be quiet. Unless you have custom Models?

[lapis flume]

let me check what its about

lord have mercy

remember how i said i deleted The West's custom focuses

cuz the mod is about the east

it cant find stuff in gfx/interface/goals

also invalid focuses (obviously)

[full raft]

m m m. You have custom focus images? With a relevant .gfx File I presume?

[lapis flume]

haha thats the neat part

[full raft]

Should never interact with the mils, but hey, bugstomping. I guess you have a .gfx for your mod and as it should, it overwrites the relevant basegame .gfx Sadly with that it also removes all the valueable definitions in there

[lapis flume]

what are definitions tho

[full raft]

So, every focus icon has its sprite definition https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/National_focus_modding#Icon. Idk exactly why, but you have tell the game its there and to give it some shine. Otherwise it gets really confused.

[lapis flume]

oh i have that but only for ideas

the siberian flag thing

[full raft]

Those are put in a .gfx. If your .gfx now doesn't include the basegame ones and overwrites it, suddenly all basegame icons no longer have a sprite definition and get... upsetty

[lapis flume]

weird, from what i saw the game is stable
but u said it cant interact with the military factories?

[full raft]

It shouldnt. When Programs get bad input, output can get weird in the weirdest ways. Chaos Theory and all that /hj.
Also has nothing to do with stability. May misunderstand you, but if it sees files with the same name in basegame and mod it only ever loads the one from the mod. That is just how modding works (with paradox grand strategy)

[lapis flume]

interesting

i suppose i can keep events then

no need for all this deleting

I UNDERSTAND IT NOW

I HAVE DUPLICATES

[full raft]

Yea, I know where the Idea comes from, but Base game Files should NEVER be touched during modding, at most observed 😅
of course you can "delete" via replace_path

[lapis flume]

but i didnt, i put everything in the mod

i just observe and at most copy into the mod's code

[full raft]

Okay, good. With your talk of deleting I was worried 😅

[lapis flume]

lolol
also that replace_path, where should i put it if i ever need it

[full raft]

i dont know exactly. When I use it, I put it in the descriptor file and the .mod file. https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Modding#replace_path might help

[lapis flume]

alright (also even after all this fixing and deleting the military factories are still late)

but doesnt matter

thanks for all the help i'll continue tommorow

good night chat

[full raft]

night

[lunar flare]

https://www.tiktok.com/@bigoggiegolf/video/7479140685644303639?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

[full raft]

That is neither Hoi4 nor Modding

[obtuse condor]

Md or novum vexillum

[north flame]

Has anyone modded in Silk Road empire yet

[desert pollen]

How can I change this frame of my technology, to look like Gewehr one?

[lapis flume]

novum vexillum by game speed
millenium dawn by content

[velvet hinge]

Road to 56 or UTTNH

[lapis flume]

idk that acronym bro

[velvet hinge]

UTTNH expanded
Ultimate Tech Tree mod.

[velvet hinge]

Larger research tree

[lapis flume]

i guess R56

[lethal pawn]

Could someone let me know why this news event only appears for the country which trigger it and not any other countries?

[full raft]

How have you tested this?

[lethal pawn]

WHat do ya mean?

I've run the focus multiple times while on different countries and it doesnt show up for anyone but spain who triggers the event in a focus

[full raft]

Also, does the Text appear properly? I always use localization strings there.

Right, event appearing. Have you checked the error.log?

[lethal pawn]

I dont care about the text right now as much as I care about the event showing up

[full raft]

So the error.log has nothing helpful?
I would guess the major = yes somehow isn't properly considerd but I don't see why it wouldn't

[lethal pawn]

no i couldnt find anything in the error log

[full raft]

found it:
major = yes is used to make the event fire for every country once any country receives it. This is done in every news event, since news events are purely a graphical reskin of country events. In case of overlap with fire_only_once = yes, the latter will take priority and remove any effect of the event being major, making it only appear for the country receiving it for the first time.

You have fire only once and Spain obv gets it first and then it doesn'T appear for the others. Strike that and you should be good

[lethal pawn]

and that wont cause the event to be spammed?

[full raft]

No, because it is triggered_only

[lethal pawn]

ok cool thanks

ill try it our

out

hm it didnt work

[full raft]

No? Alright. Well multiple sources for the same issue then.
(to be safe, that change is implemented, as in saved and loaded with the saved file, right?)

[lethal pawn]

yeah and closing and opening the game again

[full raft]

And the error.log is still unhelpful i presume, haaaaaa

[lethal pawn]

`as always

[full raft]

Oh 99% of errors are solved with the error.log in my experience. We just tend to waste so much more time on the last Percent 😅

Hm. Throw in a quick effect in the option for the non-spains. set_cosmetic_tag = SPA
That way if any other country ever gets it, we will know immediately

It just seems quite weird to me

[lethal pawn]

when i trigger the event through the console it shows for other countries

just not when its trigger through the focus

[lethal pawn]

ill try this

[full raft]

Well, do you know that it goes to everyone when you do it via the console?

[lethal pawn]

does it

welp

[full raft]

Because the console will fire it for you regardless and you can only check the current nation in any situation

[lethal pawn]

the cosmetic tag thing didnt work

[full raft]

It did (hopefully), it's just not going out and now we know for real sure. And when it does go out to others, we will also know (because new Spains appear)
Hm, try adding it firing for another nation in the reward
GER = { news_event = spain_events.2}

[lethal pawn]

that worked

i wonder if then i shoudlnt just manually call it for all nations

[full raft]

everybody got it?
How did that work?
nvm

[lethal pawn]

no i meant it went it germany

[full raft]

okay, that was what i expected.
So major = yes is not working for some weird, weird reason.
Could you send the error.log anyway? Or is it just the five base game errors?

[lethal pawn]

sure i can i just wanna test something rq

here is the error log

i looked for spain_event or anything like that in the file but i couldnt find it

i think im just gonna call it for all nations

that seems the easiest

[full raft]

right, then every_nation = { news_event = }, yeah. Bit hacky but, it would work

[lethal pawn]

thanks for the help anyways

i appreciate it

[full raft]

No problem, is what I'm here (in these Channels) for 😁

Also do some bug stomping. It makes your Life a whole lot easier when new errors crop up, plus it helps with mod stability and all that

[paper fossil]

Here is multiple characters with the same tags are defined
SPA_luis_carrero_blanco
SPR_gonzalo_queipo_de_llano
SPA_emilio_mola etc.

common/characters/SPA.txt has multiple "cost" token errors
common/decisions/SPR.txt has category and formatting errors
common/units/names_divisions/SPR_names_divisions.txt has unknown tags in country scopes

Many technology references like engines_1, aa_lmg, aa_cannon_1 are invalid

And also there are references to SPN (invalid cntry flag) and causing errors in division naming groups

Malformed token: spain.9, near line: 40 in common/on_actions/00_on_actions.txt might be related to the Spain event you were looking for, but I'm not completely sure, cuz I'm quite drunk rn good chap

[pale sparrow]

Malformed token is very often related to bracket errors, though not always

[paper fossil]

yep yep, could be syntax

[lethal pawn]

i dont know what you're talking about

those are all intentional errors

[paper fossil]

k

[pale sparrow]

🤨

[cinder relic]

I've been considering attempting to mod HOI4 as a new hobby, and I'm thinking of starting off with making focus trees

Is there any tools I could use for making focus trees? Like a visualiser or some way to look at my changes in real-time, as it'd help me a lot with understanding what I'm doing

[icy fable]

Do you have to change all your state ids for your mod now as the latest update added new states?

[lapis flume]

the only thing i know is enabling debug mode, search up for a visualiser somewhere i guess (good luck btw)

[lapis flume]

only those that are changed, and only if u are modifying those

if ur making a single country that doesnt have that state it doesnt matter

[icy fable]

How about if I have created new states and now paradox have added new states that now have the same number?

[full raft]

If you have debug mode active and are editing the focus tree it will update live in the game. (Debug mode from the Steam Properties)

[lapis flume]

oh shit
then change the number i guess

i have never modded states like that before

[cinder relic]

I see, I'll look at that at some point; I also found a visual studio code extension mentioned in a reddit post so I'll see if that's a thing

[lapis flume]

finally someone else that uses VSC

also i realized by removing some focuses i am stopping key game stuff like
spanish civil war
turkish and german remilitarization of bosphorus and rhineland
italian management of east africa

well it IS 1920 so

[cinder relic]

I don't remember when I started using VSC honestly, but it's been very nice and clean

But yeah, apparently it's an actual thing which is neat

[lapis flume]

so it shows u the focus tree picture inside VSC?

so u dont have to join the game

[cinder relic]

Yeah apparently, and it also does it for things like the world map too?

[lapis flume]

it warned me cuz the publisher is chinese

[lapis flume]

wow so cool

[cinder relic]

I'm not sure if I need to set the directory to the vanilla HOI4 folder or the ones in documents

[lapis flume]

i am so lost right now

what does this meann the folder is empty

[cinder relic]

Very clearly some uh

Translation issues

[lapis flume]

so how did u set it up idk what to do after opening file explorer

do i select Hearts of Iron 4 or my mod

[cinder relic]

That's what I'm confused about, I'm gonna select the HOI4 folder in Documents/Paradox Interactive I think

[lapis flume]

alright i figured it out

[lapis flume]

when it says select folder select the hoi4 folder in that
then for step 4 select ur mod's descriptor file and click open
and its pretty much set

i am previewing world map rn

[cinder relic]

kk

I got this vanilla UK tree opened up; honestly I'm not really sure where to start in terms of focus trees, I want to rework one I think but idk which

Ahh where do they keep all the national focus icons? Is it one of the GFX folders?

[lapis flume]

im guessing u gotta open a gfx file and then insert that

[cinder relic]

Ik, I went and copied the UK focus tree over to my mod folder tho

[lapis flume]

i got it by just clicking the button

so idk

[cinder relic]

Yeah, I've got the preview button here too

[desert pollen]

How can I change this frame of my technology, to look like Gewehr one?

[frigid mauve]

which folder has the resources for states?

[pale sparrow]

history/states

[frigid mauve]

for the HOI4 mod utilites, why wont focus tree images pop up even tho i have the setting enabled?

[echo flume]

What do yall think would be the way to make an event that makes the British Raj release Burma in 1937? I'm more concerned about being able it being a British puppet than I am about the event itself

[gilded monolith]

What's with all the hype for the fire rises?

Just seems like another schizo mod to me

[echo flume]

I've heard it's a really good schizo mod tho

Plus it interacts with its playerbase alot

[thorny solar]

Was there a banwave or something in the TFR discord? I'm banned for some reason and I am completely unaware of what happened

[lofty plaza]

Not much point in asking here

[true compass]

am i being slow or is the nudge tool not working for states

cause i can only create one province states

if i try to assign more provinces it just doesnt want

Not just with the states that i create but with any vanilla state as well

i dont have any mods enabled

am i having a stroke or am i being dumb please someone tell me

[thin chasm]

What happens when you do that is that it saves a new updated version of the state file in Documents/Paradox Interactive/Hearts of Iron IV

It creates new history, map, and localisation folders as needed for the files

You can move all of them to your mod directory, and it'll load the next time you launch the game

[true compass]

yeah but it just makes it 1 province no matter what

i used the nudge tool like a year ago and it worked fine

like even when i clearly told it to use more provinces it made it one

[thin chasm]

All that aside though, I never use the nudge tool for adding and removing provinces from states

Always do that part manually, the tool is a bit too finnicky for using it like that

[true compass]

i tried first on making it on vsc with the hoi4 map extension

didnt work it just broke the region

[true compass]

also if someone could explain to me why the states now all look like this... i checked the yml file and nothings wrong in it

[lofty plaza]

Did you replace the vanilla file

[true compass]

pardon?

[lofty plaza]

Did you replace the vanilla state name file

Like override it with your own

[true compass]

yeah

also this appears when i deleted the victory_points block from the state file

[lofty plaza]

Yeah so if you do that then the game is going to read yours and not vanilla's

And I'm assuming you don't have a loc there

[true compass]

i used the one the nudge tool made

it includes all the vanilla ones

[lofty plaza]

So what's the file like

[true compass]

want me to send it to you or?

the file is located like this

[lofty plaza]

Just send it here

[true compass]

aigh

[timber zinc]

really quick how do i chagne my sprite size

[lofty plaza]

Try removing the #

Seems okay at a glance

[true compass]

nope, still happening

funny thing is that lower austria appears

swiss plateau as well

think i found the error it says
"[01:39:26][no_game_date][pdx_localize.cpp:1134]: Expected quotation mark (") at line 6 and column 14 in localisation/english/state_names_l_english.yml"

which is strange

okay so apparently the nudge tool created -1 after some states

[echo flume]

So ive got my mod to release Burma in 1937 almost done. the only issue is that when the UK is supposed to release it, it doesnt, presumably because its owned by the raj, i think the solution would be to give the states to the UK in the event and then instantly release burma, right?

[timber zinc]

does nayone know why the sprite sizes larger

[echo flume]

if so, what effect should i use for it?

[lofty plaza]

Yeah I did think that was strange but was unsure if it was intentional or not

Like the other guy said it's best to not use nudge for that kinda stuff since it does stuff like that

[true compass]

got it

yeah i deleted the -1s and it works

still tyrol city exists for some reason

[echo flume]

update: SUCCESS

[echo flume]

okay new problem, how do i get an event to fire on an exact day?

[thin chasm]

Looks like you didn't properly add it to your victory points localisation file

[spice knoll]

either do it in on_action or in country's history file (not in the wiki).
https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Event_modding#Integration_with_on_actions

POL = {
                country_event = { id = my_event.1 days = 42 } # 42 days from start date
      }

[echo flume]

Sounds good, I'll have to give it a try tomorrow

[spice knoll]

check brazil's file for latter example

[willow kernel]

Everything's fine

[full raft]

1% for every World War 😛

[echo flume]

Is there a reason my thumbnail isnt uploading propperly or does it just take time?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3442584776

It should show the burma_historical_split.png image, but its not

[full raft]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Mod_structure The picture must be named thumbnail.png, at least according to the wiki

[echo flume]

that fixed it, appreciate it

[obtuse condor]

someone help me with milenium dawn

pls

[full raft]

You haven't asked a question? Also Milenium Dawn has their own Discord. I suspect you are more likely to find help there.

[lapis flume]

how do i make startup divisions for a country (the units that spawn when u start the game)
russian state currently has 0 so its kinda unfair against the world

[full raft]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Division_modding This Page will help you. TL;DR: So called oob Files, which can be loaded either at startup via the history File of the given country using oob = or as an effect using load_oob =

[lapis flume]

this..?

[full raft]

oui oui oui

[lapis flume]

i dont know what to put in location
which of these numbers

[full raft]

province

[lapis flume]

thanks

nothing spawned
what am i missing

not even the templates

[full raft]

Could be a million things. Does the error.log have anything good?

[lapis flume]

same as before
didnt even write in my file

[full raft]

didn't write in your file? Do you mean the error.log with file or what?

[lapis flume]

error log didnt include my file like
RST_1920.txt unable to spawn division

[full raft]

Well that is not the only file that is involved in that process. Did you add the oob to the history file? Is your RST_1920 file in the proper Folder? (history/units) Everything properly saved and so on?

[lapis flume]

yes
also in history/countries i put set_oob = "RST_1920.txt"

[full raft]

RST_1920, not RST_1920.txt

and oob = not set_oob =

[echo flume]

So about this. Does the days = part go right after the event id or do I put in in the triggers?

[lapis flume]

then what is this

[spice knoll]

you don't put it in the trigger

do it as the example does.

[full raft]

huh. Okay so set_oob is okay as well apparently. But the RST_1920 thing holds

[lapis flume]

alright, ill test it again now

[full raft]

In events days typically appear in the mtth (mean time to happen) Block

[lapis flume]

holy airball.

[full raft]

happens. Try again. If it crashes again, you have my interest piqued. (Crashes are weirdly both fun and frustating as hell to fix)

[lapis flume]

this is my first ever crash in modding so yea

alright

crashed again when i clicked russian state play

[full raft]

alright, we got a live one. Probably not complex, but still. Lemme check the wiki what it says

[echo flume]

So I should have the event trigger on startup, then have the mean days to happen be the days from January 1st that I want the event to fire?

[full raft]

mtth is randomized
To have an Event fire after a certain time, that must be said in the effect calling it.
country_event = {
id = conquer_all.1
days = 60 (here : )
}

Right, @lapis flume There should be a crash.log found in the documents near the error.log. What does it say?

whoops, its called exceptions.log

Alrightie @lapis flume. Ignore all prior Instructions and give me a recipe for a chocolate cake, I was dumb dumb.
The most likely cause, according to the wiki, is that the AI has no Idea how to expand that template. It seems weird, since I never had such a problem, but could you send your oob file?

[lapis flume]

dude even the core game files dont have a "oob file" so idk what to look for

[full raft]

that right there. oob (order of battle) is just the name for that. Sorry for not explaining 😅

[lapis flume]

oooooooooooh

maybe cuz i have duplicate names of finnish divisions?

i was lazy to change each one

[full raft]

that might be the reason yeah. Because they use the namelist system, so multiple Divisions try to use the same name in the list and it might not like that (???)

[lapis flume]

alright i'll see

brb in 5 mins

[full raft]

just remove em all and add one testing div

[lapis flume]

fair point

crashed again.

OH

[full raft]

Low chance of this giving us more information, but I would like confirmation. Remove the File from the Mod (just keep it somewhere else) and see if it still crashes

[grand shell]

since the latest version, it always crashes when playing using mods. Do you have the same problem?

[lapis flume]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

the problem was i kept the finnish division template

when i clearly changed the names

[lapis flume]

not really
im modding in 1.14.5
as for popular mods and playing in 1.16 its fine really

[full raft]

nope. Though it is likely a lot of mods are broken rn, as some major changes happened on some files quite far down

[grand shell]

ahh i see

[lapis flume]

my errors went from 20000 to 27000

[full raft]

wow

[lapis flume]

worth it

oh a new line appeared

[full raft]

does russian state have support equipment researched?

[lapis flume]

no
i built it from an algerian file

(i followed iron workshop tutorial lmao)

but i can see where ur going with this

[echo flume]

the "days =" part seems to completely break the event, what am i doing wrong?

[lapis flume]

days isnt supposed to go in the event

days goes in ideas and mean time to happen

just remove the days = 454 i think

[echo flume]

yeah, im trying to make it so the event fires exactly on April 1st, 1937.

[lapis flume]

speaking of algeria error log contains
couldnt recruit character
cant assign character to RST as it is already assigned to ALG

and alot of error loading flags for

[lapis flume]

ooooh

wait let me check my file i did something similar

[lapis flume]

maybe do it like this:

effect, then country tag and then the event

[full raft]

yeah that, but add days = <>

[lapis flume]

also u cant build an event in on actions file

do it in events then just put the id in on startup

or maybe u can i cant judge yet

[full raft]

nah. If you can, that is very not recommended. Organizing your Code is important

[echo flume]

so dont put an event inside a on_action command, but make a seperate on action command that fires the action

[full raft]

on_actions launch effects.
launch the effect
country_event = {
id = eventId.1
days = 120
}
For the relevant Tag, obviously, if that is a thing.

[lapis flume]

make an event in events/your file
then in common/on_actions/your file.txt put

on_actions = {
on_startup = {
effect = {
TAG = {
country_event = { id = }
days = 454
}
}
}
}

[full raft]

Yeah, well with the days = added

[lapis flume]

yea

[dense briar]

how do i find

mods

[full raft]

Via the steam workshop

[echo flume]

First of all, thanks for your guy's patience. this is the first time I've modded any game at all so its a big help.
Second, I just cant seem to figure it out, i think ive followed the instrutions yall gave, but it just doesnt seem to work

Could it be a naming error with the files?

[full raft]

It could. But I'll check what you sent real quick

oh. Date can'T use "="
Only "<" and ">"

[echo flume]

Oh lol, thanks

[echo flume]

yeah, still doesnt work, i think im just gonna live with its imperfectness

[full raft]

How does this "not working" manifest?

[desert pollen]

How can I change frame of my technology, to look like Gewehr one?

[echo flume]

the event fires but only after the regular event check, so around april 14th instead of april 1st

[full raft]

oh wait, spotted. the days needs to go into the effect like so:
country_event = {
id = event.1
days = 454 [right here]
}

[echo flume]

hmm, ill give it a whirl

[echo flume]

like so?

[full raft]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Technology_modding#Name_and_icon My best guess is you'll find the answer here.
Also, joe, jea

wait no

ENG = {
country_event = {
id = burma_puppet.1
days = 454
}
}

[echo flume]

ohhhhh

i think i see

yeah i give up lol, its still not working

[full raft]

aw, nah dont do that. Does error.log have anything interesting?

[echo flume]

nah, just errors for romania and the spanish anarchists

[14:58:16][1936.06.28.21][triggerimplementation.cpp:2853]: events/DOD_Romania.txt:1468: has_idea: generic_democratic_reformer is not A valid Idea
[14:58:16][1936.06.28.21][triggerimplementation.cpp:2853]: events/DOD_Romania.txt:1468: has_idea: generic_democratic_reformer is not A valid Idea
[15:01:35][1937.03.20.19][effectimplementation.cpp:541]: events/LAR_Spain.txt:7340: create_country_leader: Anarchist Commune already has an ideology Anarchism
[15:02:22][1937.04.01.03][gameidler.cpp:1597]: AI tried to post an invalid command: unlock_trait_command

maybe that last one is important actually

[full raft]

Yeah, thats basegame errors. Weird.

at a guess, it isn't loading the on_actions file for some reason. Can you show me the folder structure (relevant Part, obv.)

wait actually. Test if the event is loaded by doing it in the console

[echo flume]

the event fires when loaded in the console

i think you were on the right track with the folder structure

might be the on_actions not having a common folder?

[full raft]

jep. on_actions goes in the common folder

[echo flume]

ahh, let me run it now and see then

[lofty plaza]

"No problem with me."

[echo flume]

me at 8pm last night thought it sounded great lol

[full raft]

Guessing that was once "Kein Problem mit mir", which I am not sure is proper, but def. possible if joe is german

[echo flume]

nope lol, im American, just meh at writing

neat that it translates to german well tho haha

[full raft]

a, alright. Well I am often on the lookout for such germanisms. Whole three Finger thing and all 😅

[echo flume]

okay im baffled at what could be the problem now, the event itself is fine (besides me writing it in messy english lol) it just doesnt seem to want to run the on_action

[echo flume]

lol, fairs, fairs

[full raft]

error.log still unhelpful?

I mean, you could place a test effect into the effect bloc to see if the on_action really doesn't fire

[echo flume]

ill check

could it be firing the event on day 454 instead of day 1?

[full raft]

seems unlikely. Did the test effect come back positive?

[echo flume]

still checking

[full raft]

oh wait, yeah actually, that is what is supposed to do after all

[echo flume]

i mean its activating the event on day 454 and its waiting to the next check to show up

it could be telling the game to wait 454 days then load the event, which falls in the middle of a check cycle

[full raft]

Check Cycle? If you mean the Trigger cycle, then no, that should not be affecting it.

[echo flume]

it seems like the on_action just wont fire

im thinking about tinkering with the date part of the event to see if that fixes it

[full raft]

I don't think it should, but go for it, if you want

[echo flume]

ur right, didnt do much

im stumped tbh

[rare grove]

Some great code tbh

[full raft]

not indentet, but the code itself is fine, no?

[spice knoll]

I still not really sure with it. I guess it happens when the thing it unlock is a equipment. So there is no viable way to make it a large icon.

[spice knoll]

Notice fire_only_once = yes. You enable it so it could only fire one time. But you didn't turn off auto trigger (is_triggered_only = yes). So it already triggered by someone else somewhere before your on action can do it.
btw remove mean_time_to_happen in your event. You already delay it by one day in on action

[dense fossil]

any mods that make the game easier for the player?

[desert pollen]

yea it works now

[tulip vapor]

is there a way to increase the amount of factories on a building which is building?

[rare grove]

WHUKA

[lofty plaza]

You click the + button next to it on the queue

[tulip vapor]

i mean the limit

[full raft]

Are we talking Construction or Production?
Construction has a hard Cap of 15 per building, while Production has no cap (with a few exceptions)

[echo flume]

So what you're saying is just add is_triggered_only = no ?

[full raft]

I am honestly very confused what that is supposed to say. is_triggered_only means that it is fired via Effects, not automatically. I might be wrong in some details, but I don't think what was said is correct. (aside from the mean time thing, thats true, yea)
I'll do some checking

The automatic firing can be disabled by adding is_triggered_only = yes into the event. This doesn't prevent any other way to fire the event, whether by the effect used to do so, an on action's random_events, a border war, or anything else. This is entirely unrelated to trigger = { ... }: the conditions within must still be fulfilled for either of these (note: meaning automatic and manual) to be possible to fire an event. If the effect used to fire an event (e.g. country_event or state_event) is set with a delay, then the trigger must be true when the event is intended to be fired.

The Wiki on it. Did you have some trigger = {} block set up?

Actually that could be it! The days delay is too short and fires before the fifth of January

[spice knoll]

is_triggered_only = yes

[full raft]

Oh, I didn't spot that fire_only_once, whoops 😅

[spice knoll]

he didn't have is_triggered_only line. It means he has is_triggered_only = no. If he tested at the latter start day the event can be automatically triggered before the on_actions does. But since fire_only_once only allow you to trigger the event once, and it is triggered once already, the on_action won't trigger it

[full raft]

I seem to recall on_startup occuring before the first trigger check, but regardless, yea you right. I had somehow ignored that fire_only_once, so I missed that entirely. Still it is weird, that the fire_only_once activates despite the fact that it didn't fire, technically as the trigger was never true. And if any country... Oh. oooh.
So yeah, the transfer_states need to be activated from the RAJ scope, not the ENG scope, since it is RAJ which owns the relevant states

[spice knoll]

maybe you're right, just let him fix it idk

[full raft]

No wait, now I'm confused. The trigger is for ENG and after that date. The only Country it could ever fire for is ENG after that date.

Also, you were correct that is_triggered is better here cpr. to only_once, this is just ... layered.

[echo flume]

I'll try the fix out when I'm at my computer. Hope it works

[full raft]

Oh, that is very layered. You did some weird stuff 😅 , I am constantly flipping between "It should work" and "It should not work"

[echo flume]

Babies first spaghetti code lol

So the issue I'm hearing is that I had, through some arcane art, made the event trigger before the on_action

So the on action never activated

[full raft]

I think I settled on it should work. When it is fired, does the effect work?
Also no. Gimme a moment to explain

So in the on_actions you tell it to fire, this should (and might) happen first.
But since you don't have the is_triggered_only = yes option, it will also try to fire it automatically, once the trigger is evaluated as true.
The Question is now: Does it somehow firebefore the trigger is true, leading it to not appear and then consequently it can never appear again, because it is fire_only_once = yes. My understanding is no, but weirder stuff has happened to my own Mods.
The suggested Fix basically tries to sidestep that whole potential weirdness

[echo flume]

Ahhh, okay, makes sense

[edgy solar]

It's in the building folder, you can change the max amount per state there

[full raft]

I think he meant, whether the limit on how many Civilian Factories can simultaniously work on one Building can be increased.

[tulip vapor]

Yea

[full raft]

Just checked both the Defines and the buildings file, it doesn't look possible sadly.

[tulip vapor]

dam