easier and better to do it from vanilla
#modding
timber zenith
you can use my mod as a base if you want
"More States"
It's not got accurate borders but its easier than nothing
sly basalt
I'd very much appreciate that, thanks.
Anyway, I might come back to this another day.
timber zenith
sly basalt
I have a Baldur's Gate 3 Collector's Edition box begging for me to open it.
timber zenith
It's america
timber zenith
š
abstract burrow
im gonna get to work]
timber zenith
good luck
abstract burrow
@timber zenith I may sound dumb here
but i copied all the files over
and it insta crashed
what did i do wrong
abstract burrow
:(
abstract burrow
you need to copy the replace_path lines into your descriptor file
its not working
abstract burrow
version="1.0"
tags={
"Alternative History"
}
name="Tormented Hell Test v1"
supported_version="1.12.14"
replace_path="common/ai_peace"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy_plans"
replace_path="common/ai_equipment"
replace_path="common/ai_templates"
replace_path="common/bookmarks"
replace_path="common/decisions"
replace_path="common/decisions/categories"
replace_path="common/ideas"
replace_path="common/national_focus"
replace_path="common/on_actions"
replace_path="common/scripted_effects"
replace_path="common/scripted_localisation"
replace_path="common/units/names_divisions"
replace_path="common/units/names_ships"
replace_path="history/countries"
replace_path="history/states"
replace_path="map/strategicregions"
replace_path="map/supplyareas"
replace_path="events"
replace_path="portraits"
replace_path="country_leader"
this is in my descriptor file in my mod file
i didnt do anything to the other one
timber zenith
if you back out of the mod, you'll be in the folder called mod
the descriptor file there
abstract burrow
i know about that
timber zenith
it'll be modname.mod
abstract burrow
do i put the replace path there too?
timber zenith
Yeah
abstract burrow
so in both
timber zenith
And make the name the same if u can
abstract burrow
it was already in it
version="1.0"
tags={
"Alternative History"
}
name="Tormented Hell Test v1"
replace_path="common/ai_peace"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy_plans"
replace_path="common/ai_equipment"
replace_path="common/ai_templates"
replace_path="common/bookmarks"
replace_path="common/decisions"
replace_path="common/decisions/categories"
replace_path="common/ideas"
replace_path="common/national_focus"
replace_path="common/on_actions"
replace_path="common/scripted_effects"
replace_path="common/scripted_localisation"
replace_path="common/units/names_divisions"
replace_path="common/units/names_ships"
replace_path="history/countries"
replace_path="history/states"
replace_path="map/strategicregions"
replace_path="map/supplyareas"
replace_path="events"
replace_path="portraits"
replace_path="country_leader"
supported_version="1.12.14"
path="C:/Users/ellio/Documents/Paradox Interactive/Hearts of Iron IV GamePass/mod/THT"
MOD.MOD
version="1.0"
tags={
"Alternative History"
}
name="Tormented Hell Test v1"
supported_version="1.12.14"
replace_path="common/ai_peace"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy_plans"
replace_path="common/ai_equipment"
replace_path="common/ai_templates"
replace_path="common/bookmarks"
replace_path="common/decisions"
replace_path="common/decisions/categories"
replace_path="common/ideas"
replace_path="common/national_focus"
replace_path="common/on_actions"
replace_path="common/scripted_effects"
replace_path="common/scripted_localisation"
replace_path="common/units/names_divisions"
replace_path="common/units/names_ships"
replace_path="history/countries"
replace_path="history/states"
replace_path="map/strategicregions"
replace_path="map/supplyareas"
replace_path="events"
replace_path="portraits"
replace_path="country_leader"version="1.0"
tags={
"Alternative History"
}
name="Tormented Hell Test v1"
supported_version="1.12.14"
replace_path="common/ai_peace"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy"
replace_path="common/ai_strategy_plans"
replace_path="common/ai_equipment"
replace_path="common/ai_templates"
replace_path="common/bookmarks"
replace_path="common/decisions"
replace_path="common/decisions/categories"
replace_path="common/ideas"
replace_path="common/national_focus"
replace_path="common/on_actions"
replace_path="common/scripted_effects"
replace_path="common/scripted_localisation"
replace_path="common/units/names_divisions"
replace_path="common/units/names_ships"
replace_path="history/countries"
replace_path="history/states"
replace_path="map/strategicregions"
replace_path="map/supplyareas"
replace_path="events"
replace_path="portraits"
replace_path="country_leader"
Descriptor.mod
abstract burrow
it crashes
timber zenith
maybe in your documents/hoi4 folder
abstract burrow
added it to a new mod file
timber zenith
maybe in your documents/hoi4 folder
I mean you might have modified states there
abstract burrow
what do i do in there
timber zenith
is there a folder called history or map
abstract burrow
im documents?
timber zenith
documents/pdx/hoi4
timber zenith
can you upload your error file?
timber zenith
4000 lines rip
abstract burrow
yup
timber zenith
ohhh yeah it's probably cause its outdated
abstract burrow
how to redate it?
timber zenith
delete common/defines folder
abstract burrow
in the mod file?
timber zenith
yeah
timber zenith
probably an issue with being outdated
it's not about flags dw
also delete bookmarks
abstract burrow
abstract burrow
done
timber zenith
and go into both descriptors and remove the replace_path line for bookmarks
timber zenith
tryrestart
timber zenith
Nice
timber zenith
yeah lol
abstract burrow
Now, I need to make states
@timber zenith it crashes when I leave the nudge tool
Rip
timber zenith
damn idk
abstract burrow
prob due to no countries
timber zenith
nah
thin yew
in the mod file?
yes
bleak dragon
anyway to do it? or else video
earnest trail
Which air and naval doctirnes are the best for each majors?
obtuse condor
im gonna mod in new SS/WAFFEN SS units and templates
obtuse condor
hey guys
i need help
this came up
after i used nudge, and moved that into the mod folder
abstract burrow
this came up
revert the changes
obtuse condor
why?
abstract burrow
because you messed it up xd
abstract burrow
look, that error only comes up if the nudge tool encounters an error which needs to be reverted
obtuse condor
oh...
how should i do it correctly
so i watched an tutorial
and i made the exact same thing
abstract burrow
how should i do it correctly
idk
my nudge tool on my custom map aint working
and i think the whole tool is just ass
abstract burrow
provinence assign manually
obtuse condor
argh
abstract burrow
its better tbh
abstract burrow
Have a good day
slate coral
9/11 didnāt happen even though i had historical mode on
earnest gull
@timber zenith whats the code to send a non agression pact
cosmic stag
Greetings, I'm trying to put the Portuguese units sound to another country tag, but I don't know how to do that
For example, put from POR to SAI
earnest trail
Wasn't it an inside job?
tropic ocean
giga chad is the real president of turkeyššš
hot jewel
guys i want to mod the german tree
but not from scratch
like the original one but adding stuff into it
how can i do it
abstract burrow
guys i want to mod the german tree
but not from scratch
like the original one bu...
copy base game files
cosmic stag
I'm building up a mod of an alternative universe where didn't happen World War I, and new events...
Where Portugal is taking over the USA's place as the house of democracy.
Which Portugal is the world's superpower taking over Iberia and colonies in Africa, having a Portuguese Central Africa.
There was a war in the Atlantic where democratic countries fought agaisnt fascist countries, which was democracy win.
Although, the situation in the world got even worse after Portuguese economy started to go down, provoking the Atlantic Depression.
I'm still building up the history from scratch, everything was normal until 1900, where a lot of events has happened.
Looking for people who are interested to code on the mod, even designers to do the GFX.
The mod will be for a community where everyone can play it.
If you're interested, send me DM.
earnest trail
How to counter space marines effectively?
obtuse condor
I want to add a trigger for an event's option to pop up. If the date is 1937, I want this option not to appear.
How is this possible
obtuse condor
guys im having an issue where whenever I set up my custom ideology's icon,its always replaced with the unknown icon. How do i fix this issue
abstract burrow
guys im having an issue where whenever I set up my custom ideology's icon,its al...
have you made sure you have the right path?
whole mango
guys im having an issue where whenever I set up my custom ideology's icon,its al...
did you make a file for them in interface and locate them ? if you didn't then it wont work
by the way guys , i just finished making my mod loading screen
please give me your opinion and tell me if there is anything i can do to make it better ā¤ļø
abstract burrow
@whole mango I remember you
You blocked me just when I was trying to make a friend
whole mango
why do i have to tell you ?
whole mango
great
timber zenith
I want to add a trigger for an event's option to pop up. If the date is 1937, I ...
You can put a trigger scope in the event option like trigger = { date > 1937.1.1 }
whole mango
But are you the person I know
marred#0640
if you mean the guy working with you then this guy is
obtuse condor
did you make a file for them in interface and locate them ? if you didn't then i...
No I didn't,could you maybe explain the easiest way to do those stuff?
abstract burrow
marred#0640
if you mean the guy working with you then this guy is
Oh, so he didnāt leave me
He just moved on
Haha, have a good day :)
whole mango
Haha, have a good day :)
dont trust him tho
he might have just taken the mod and worked on it alone
since you gave the descriptor
whole mango
why
abstract burrow
Ok allow me to rephrase
I had intense trust issues
And I had 2 folders, my beta mod folder (all important working files) and non beta mod (the public files) which yoseef had
whole mango
No I didn't,could you maybe explain the easiest way to do those stuff?
dm me bro
obtuse condor
Okay
abstract burrow
I gave yoseef my unfinished work, I was going to give it after a few more days of working, he just didnāt stick around long enough to get them
whole mango
thats smart
abstract burrow
Always be 10 steps ahead
thin yew
I gave yoseef my unfinished work, I was going to give it after a few more days o...
or maybe cuz someone didnt listen to anything i say ?
whole mango
Oh it's gonna heat up
thin yew
What?
dude when i told you to not put all the files together
you said "i am putting all of them together"
like you dont care about anything i say
whole mango
What
abstract burrow
And also, @thin yew I gave you an ideology rework job, you didnāt finish it in 2 days when it wouldāve taken me 4 hours. Letās not get into the details when I worked harder, and I knew exactly what to do
whole mango
I don't understand
thin yew
And also, <@875532834750734386> I gave you an ideology rework job, you didnāt fi...
yeah and it was my first time modding ideologies so ofcourse it would take time
- you said "i suck at modding ideologies"
abstract burrow
No I didnāt lol
thin yew
you did
abstract burrow
When
whole mango
Mhm
thin yew
A : can you mod ideologies
B : nah i suck at this
abstract burrow
So when did I say you sucked?
thin yew
you didnt say i suck
you said you suck at ideologies so you began modding everything else
i knew you would go on saying "it took you 2 days"
abstract burrow
you said you suck at ideologies so you began modding everything else
I do suck, but then again, when I needed help, I spoke out, you sat in your own shadows
whole mango
I wish I could see this chat
abstract burrow
I wish I could see this chat
You can, itās in your dms
whole mango
Deleted
abstract burrow
whole mango
abstract burrow
@thin yew want to know something funny
thin yew
yes
abstract burrow
Itās a permanent log
thin yew
i didnt
thin yew
why would i
abstract burrow
Why would you not
thin yew
yes but why would i
abstract burrow
You left me
thin yew
you worked on the mod like i dont exist
abstract burrow
So?
I worked and worked
I always checked in on you
I was supportive
I asked for constant reminders of your progress and offered to assist @thin yew
thin yew
i didnt want your help because you were already modding bookmark , country , states , oob armies
š
abstract burrow
Exactly
Iām gonna be honest here
I didnāt need a dev team
I just wanted a friend which liked hoi4 modding
thin yew
good luck
bleak dragon
Is there any tutorial to make custom map
sly basalt
God bless FBKong for introducing me to paint.net!
Makes painting provinces a lot easier when I can import a good layer!
With Paint.net, how do I export just a single layer? I'm right now just tracing Millennium Dawn's map for Israel, Palestine and Golan Heights.
Also how do you do comments in a .csv folder? I want to append a comment to my new provinces that basically says what it is. I've just made Gaza Strip, and wanna append a comment that says "Gaza Strip" right after my new code.
obtuse condor
You can put a trigger scope in the event option like ```
trigger = {
date...
Thanks
sly basalt
Why is it saying that my new provinces have no continent when I put a 7 at the end to make them part of the Middle East?
sly basalt
13258;19;189;231;land;false;desert;7
13259;117;230;9;land;false;desert;7
13260;97;152;57;land;false;desert;7```
Here are my new provinces, it has the flag 7 showing them to be part of the Middle East, yet I'm still getting errors saying they don't have a continent.Yeah IDK what I've done but I'm getting crashes now 
timber zenith
```13257;251;80;135;land;true;desert;7
13258;19;189;231;land;false;desert;7
1325...
Is that In your mod?
and is there a definition file in the hoi4 documents folder?
timber zenith
is that in the hoi4 documents folder?
sly basalt
Yes. In my mod, in my map folder.
timber zenith
I mean is there one in the hoi4 documents folder
sly basalt
No.
timber zenith
Alright
sly basalt
I have a specific question for you though.
timber zenith
Sure
sly basalt
454-Israel.txt is a state already in HOI4. I have divided up the region and want to use it for my West Bank state.
So I renamed it to 454-West Bank.txt and put it in my states folder.
But it's saying there's a state ID conflict.
[17:17:09][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #454 has no people living in it.
[17:17:09][statetemplate.cpp:607]: State ID conflict: Both "Palestine" ( history/states/454-West Bank.txt) and "Palestine" ( Z:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Hearts of Iron IV\454-Israel.txt).```It's still reading the original hoi4 files, as well as the files in your mod
Since the name is different, the game doesn't detect that it's the same file and will load both
causing a crash
sly basalt
So how do I get it to only read my mod files?
timber zenith
Keep the name the same as vanilla is far easier
The file name doesn't affect ingame anyway
timber zenith
Yeah
sly basalt
Now how do I change it so that it's called West Bank?
id=454
name="STATE_454"
provinces={
7107 13260
}
manpower=0
buildings_max_level_factor=1.000
local_supplies=0.000
}```That's a localisation thing, you'll want to go to the hoi4 files and get the file named state_names in localisation/english
and copy that into your mod
sly basalt
Can I do...
name="West Bank"
timber zenith
Don't
sly basalt
timber zenith
you can but probably shouldn't
sly basalt
God I again appreciate how you actually give me help.
I'm getting huge info-dump overloads that don't really answer my questions from other sources.
Found it!
OK, I changed it in the localisation folder to "West Bank" so that it represents the West Bank.
sly basalt
IT'S WORKING!
timber zenith
nice stuff
sly basalt
OK, next question.
The nudge tool doesn't seem to want to assign the strategic regions to my new provinces.
timber zenith
wdym?
sly basalt
I try and use the nudge tool to put these all in the Levant strategic region but it doesn't seem to work.
How do I assign the strategic regions in the code?
timber zenith
You can do it by hand
timber zenith
select a state in the strategic region you want then shift-click the state you want assigned to that region
timber zenith
save
sly basalt
I just clicked save and it did this.
And they no longer have strategic regions.
I think I found the code.
timber zenith
Move the files that have now been saved in documents/hoi4 into your mod
sly basalt
OH MY GOD I FORGOT IT DOES THAT.
Legend!
Next question, how do I give it the AI area of being in the Middle East?
timber zenith
don't worry about that
timber zenith
I've never touched that I think something else does
sly basalt
Fair enough then.
timber zenith
Might fix itself when you give it an owner
sly basalt
OK I'm rebooting to check my debug logs.
[17:32:46][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #454 has no people living in it.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:229]: State #909 does not have a category defined.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #909 has no people living in it.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:229]: State #910 does not have a category defined.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #910 has no people living in it.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:229]: State #911 does not have a category defined.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #911 has no people living in it.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:229]: State #912 does not have a category defined.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #912 has no people living in it.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:229]: State #913 does not have a category defined.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #913 has no people living in it.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:229]: State #914 does not have a category defined.
[17:32:47][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #914 has no people living in it.```
OK I understand it having no people living it in, but how do I give it a category?put state_category =
sly basalt
Also is there a way to get it to print a new log without having to restart the game?
timber zenith
and then the state category
timber zenith
Also is there a way to get it to print a new log *without* having to restart the...
I'm not sure
sly basalt
I'm sure there's a console command.
sly basalt
put `state_category = `
So in the code I would put that?
timber zenith
Yeah, along with the state category
sly basalt
id=909
name="STATE_909"
provinces={
13259
}
manpower=0
buildings_max_level_factor=1.000
local_supplies=0.000
}```
This is the code for Golan Heights, where in this code would I put it?
sly basalt
Ahhh, thanks.
chilly field
where would i find the event wtt_news.70?
timber zenith
where would i find the event wtt_news.70?
wtt news events file
sly basalt
God I have no idea which of these to choose. They all seem kinda weird.
timber zenith
Probably wasteland
since there isn't anything there and it's small
It's basically about the ammount of factories you can fit there
sly basalt
Ahhhh.
Yeah OK.
I'm wondering what to put for Gaza Strip. It's technically an enclave, kinda. But it's also super dense so I might put large_city.
More accurately reflects it I think.
sly basalt
Oh.
Wow.
Yeah I've definitely overestimated these then.
I just tried to check the continent in nudge tool and it CRASHED
timber zenith
rip
sly basalt
OK let's restart and see if that fixes it.
[17:52:44][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #909 has no people living in it.
[17:52:44][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #910 has no people living in it.
[17:52:44][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #911 has no people living in it.
[17:52:44][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #912 has no people living in it.
[17:52:44][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #913 has no people living in it.
[17:52:44][statetemplate.cpp:231]: State #914 has no people living in it.
[17:52:44][map.cpp:1893]: Bitmap and province definition disagree on whether or not province 4088 is coastal. Bitmap adjacency result will be prefered.
[17:52:45][persistent.cpp:48]: Error: "Unexpected token: =, near line: 26" in file: "common/national_focus/Israel_focus.txt" near line: 26
[17:52:45][nationalfocus.cpp:529]: Error in focus: ISR_ (common/national_focus/Israel_focus.txt:17 )
relative_focus_id: cost does not exist. Relative focus must be scripted before this.
[17:52:45][nationalfocus.cpp:2017]: ISR_: Couldn't find dependency
[17:52:45][nationalfocus.cpp:2017]: ISR_: Couldn't find dependency
My current errors.
timber zenith
to be expected
sly basalt
Yep it crashes when I go into the continents section of the nudge tool.
All of my provinces have their continents defined already though.
timber zenith
wait
sly basalt
Oui?
timber zenith
continents section?
sly basalt
Of the nudge tool.
timber zenith
where?
timber zenith
i've never seen that in my life lol
timber zenith
I wouldnt worry about it lol
sly basalt
OK so.
When I give population to a state.
That's "manpower" right?
manpower=40000
timber zenith
Yeah
sly basalt
Aight awesome.
abstract burrow
Hi
timber zenith
yo
sly basalt
Remember to never add commas <@605681910009823249>
Good advice, thanks.
timber zenith
i'm alright hbu?
abstract burrow
i'm alright hbu?
Doing well
@timber zenith do you have the enclave reborn and enclave + mods on your steam?
timber zenith
enclave reborn redux?
abstract burrow
enclave reborn redux?
Yea
I canāt get it so Iām asking if anyone has it
Itās this one
timber zenith
that ones outdated
sly basalt
IDK why it's saying Golan has no population when it clearly has a population.
abstract burrow
that ones outdated
Is it?
timber zenith
hasn't been updated for over a year
timber zenith
yeah same thing
timber zenith
it can be
because it makes changes that conflict with the base game
I'll send it over but i make no promises
timber zenith
np
sly basalt
Alright, I've made my states for Israel and Palestine, given them population, now I just need to assign them to land.
abstract burrow
ive now got to look into what this guy was saying about this sunmod to this submod
sly basalt
There's already an Israel and Palestine country in the data isn't there?
abstract burrow
There's already an Israel *and* Palestine country in the data isn't there?
yes
there is a base game file
i think
sly basalt
I'm guessing it would be far superior for me to then use them.
abstract burrow
idk about palestine
abstract burrow
I'm guessing it would be far superior for me to then use them.
i make my own
country files
but you can do what you need
sly basalt
Won't that cause clashes if they're both named Israel and Palestine though?
sly basalt
@timber zenith is this correct?
abstract burrow
hoi4 works like:
sly basalt
I'm not saying you are.
sly basalt
I'm just saying that doesn't seem to make sense given how it's been nae naeing me.
OK where do I find the countries folder?
sly basalt
Steam.
abstract burrow
do you know where all the files are localted for it
sly basalt
I think I found it.
abstract burrow
not the one in documents?
sly basalt
It's in history/countries.
abstract burrow
its not in documents
sly basalt
W U T ? !
sly basalt
Is it easier to make a country from scratch or just copy over the various required stuff?
sly basalt
OK. What is all the required stuff?
abstract burrow
would you like me to send you a country file of one of my old countries
which is easy to edit
sly basalt
Ehhh. Sure.
But I do want to figure out how to just bring over Israel and Palestine from base game.
abstract burrow
i know
so, if you expand it you can fill it out
then you put the name as TAG - Country.txt
sly basalt
And what else do I need to do?
Because apparently there's more?
OK yeah I'm gonna copy over Israel and Palestine and go from there.
sly basalt
So, I've taken the two folders from the countries folder.
abstract burrow
folders or files
sly basalt
For now I just want the bare minimum.
sly basalt
folders or files
Files. I created my own "countries" folder in the history folder of my mod.
timber zenith
<@280216491884937217> is this correct?
The same names doesn't matter
abstract burrow
thats right
timber zenith
The same tags do though
sly basalt
I want to keep the tags.
timber zenith
since they arleady exist I wouldn't bother
sly basalt
Yeah I'd rather just import them.
abstract burrow
making new tags are easy dw
sly basalt
I'm up to here right now.
abstract burrow
its like 2 extra steps
sly basalt
making new tags are easy dw
I've made my mind up.
abstract burrow
I'm up to here right now.
go in and delete most of the dlc type stuff
usually useless xd
in the code ofc
timber zenith
nah keep that
sly basalt
Sorry Elliot but I'm gonna prioritise what Kong is saying over you
abstract burrow
tbh idk what half of it is xd
timber zenith
You'll have to require dlc to use the mod then
timber zenith
or the other way around
sly basalt
You'll have to require dlc to use the mod then
Right now I just want to get this done basically.
abstract burrow
and add accordingly
sly basalt
I wanna have all the pieces set up before I move 'em.
abstract burrow
@timber zenith i havent been able to test the mod you sent
i had to reinstall the main mod xd
file corrupted or something
timber zenith
dam
sly basalt
I've moved those two .txt files, what else do I need to bring over in order to create an Israel and a Palestine?
timber zenith
You don't need to move anything over
sly basalt
So it will make the flag automatically?
timber zenith
base game already has them
sly basalt
Alright.
So.
I have the two files.
Now.
How do I go about given them the relevant states they own?
timber zenith
You have to designate owners in the states themselves
sly basalt
It doesn't seem like these .txt files actually have what they own?
timber zenith
like
timber zenith
history = {
owner = ISR
add_core_of = ISR
buildings = { infrastructure = 2 }
}
Right now both have their capital set to 554. I'm guessing that's Jerusalem.
If they both have their capital as Jerusalem, I'm guessing that will cause problems.
I want Israel's to be Jerusalem and Palestine's to be Ramallah.
abstract burrow
now is the change to test the mod
sly basalt
Where do I find the list of cities?
abstract burrow
Where do I find the list of cities?
they are in states
not cities
if you look at capital
sly basalt
But then...
sly basalt
id=912
name="STATE_912"
provinces={
1086
}
manpower=1253900
state_category = city
buildings_max_level_factor=1.000
local_supplies=0.000
}```im not sure if you can with provinences
sly basalt
I changed a few provinces.
timber zenith
If they *both* have their capital as Jerusalem, I'm guessing that will cause pro...
nah its fine
sly basalt
But what if I do want to change Palestine's capital to Ramallah?
timber zenith
is that a different state?
timber zenith
You can change the state to ramallah state then
sly basalt
How do I do that?
sly basalt
tl;dr I used the old "454-Israel.txt" file as West Bank and made Jerusalem into a state using province 1086.
So yeah how do I make cities?
abstract burrow
sly basalt
While I wait for an answer on that, I will go about having all these states set up with claims, cores and stuff.
abstract burrow
can anyone install this and send it me
abstract burrow
So yeah how do I make cities?
i think you gotta map mod
sly basalt
I will cross that bridge later then.
timber zenith
can anyone install this and send it me
can't its larger than 500mbs
abstract burrow
can't its larger than 500mbs
what does that mean
you cant send .zip files over 500mbs?
sly basalt
<@605681910009823249> i need your help
I almost certainly cannot help you.
sly basalt
Sorry cuz.
abstract burrow
@timber zenith if someone split it into 2 parts and i joined it together, would that work
sly basalt
Why don't you have access to the Steam workshop? Did you buy it on the Microsoft store?
sly basalt
RIP.
timber zenith
So yeah how do I make cities?
make a victory point like victory_points = { province_id point_count}
sly basalt
make a victory point like `victory_points = { province_id point_count}`
Aight. Thanks.
timber zenith
<@280216491884937217>
good luck
abstract burrow
good luck
my eyes are already sinned
i just saw 10 pairs of cherries
in ONE picture
timber zenith
Aight. Thanks.
Then define that victory point in localisation
sly basalt
OK for the Golan Heights, I have it set to Israel as the owner because they own it right now. Should I also add an Israeli claim to it?
timber zenith
OK for the Golan Heights, I have it set to Israel as the owner because they own ...
No real need to add a claim. if they own it, claims are hidden
sly basalt
No real need to add a claim. if they own it, claims are hidden
I might do it anyway just to make sure.
timber zenith
alright
sly basalt
If they lose it, they should still claim it.
timber zenith
add_claim_by
sly basalt
Cheers.
This is a far more political question than modding question, but I'm wondering if I should give Palestine claims on the states of Israel.
But Israel and Palestine have cores on Jerusalem.
sly basalt
Nice.
timber zenith
This is a far more political question than modding question, but I'm wondering i...
I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole
sly basalt
I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole
Yeah that is a complicated one.
sly basalt
I'm a pretty hardcore ML and don't like Israel because of the ethnic cleansing, but I'm wondering if Palestine actually claims Israeli territory beyond what is de jure occupied?
I might leave it for now and give Palestine a focus to get claims or something.
gritty cave
hey just wondering, why is my focus' cost not updating the length of the focus? When I remove the focuses underneath, it fixes but idk what else to do :/
it also doesnt show the mutually exclusive focuses in the focus description either
timber zenith
hey just wondering, why is my focus' cost not updating the length of the focus? ...
did you make multiple focuses with the same name?
gritty cave
oh that actually might be it
ill check
ohmygod thank you so myuch i accidentally had a second version of it
minimized too
sly basalt
OK I've made my states time to relaunch and see if they work in the Nudge.
FIRST TIME WHERE THE ONLY ERRORS ARE THE FOCUS TREES!
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OK. I'm gonna temporarily move the files in the Israel focus tree so I can see if it defaults to the generic and I can actually play as them.
Apparently there are errors but the log isn't making them.
OK I commented it out but I'm gonna move it.
gritty cave
if i wanted to make like an election minigame through decisions how would i go by doing that?
sly basalt
hey just wondering, why is my focus' cost not updating the length of the focus? ...
I hate to ask you an off topic question, but does the game automatically build the focus tree's graphics with the lines and that or do you have to do that yourself?
gritty cave
I hate to ask you an off topic question, but does the game automatically build t...
it auto does that dw
sly basalt
THANK GOD.
gritty cave
it comes with the prerequisite function(?)
idk what to call it
but prerequisite = { focus = [insert focus here] } puts the lines in
gritty cave
if u want dotted lines for optional focuses do
prerequisite = { focus = [focus_1] focus = [focus_2]}
sly basalt
if u want dotted lines for optional focuses do
prerequisite = { focus = [focus_...
LEGEND.
gritty cave
GOD DAMMIT WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE MAP DEFINITION!?
check if the states have overlapping stuff
like some states sharing provinces
and along with that check the strategic regions
cuz usually new states dont have any assigned
sly basalt
It's not printing which states are causing problems.
sly basalt
Oh dear f@cking God...
gritty cave
atleast thats what i had to do
sly basalt
What the hell does any of this crap mean?!
obtuse condor
how do i make "leader is (insert here) as a prereuqisite for a focus?
gritty cave
nudge tool has a buildings option
sly basalt
And yeah I clearly have messed up where Jerusalem is.
sly basalt
nudge tool has a buildings option
I tried to put some buildings there, it didn't work.
Should I just nuke 'em all?
gritty cave
yeah that mightve done it
sly basalt
I'm honestly thinking it's some shit to do with the continents since opening that in the nudger crashed.
gritty cave
yeah state mnodding was hell for me too
sly basalt
Oh yeah I need to figure out which state is Jerusalem as well
gritty cave
just to make eupen malmady, a 1 province state, i nuked my mod entirely 3 times
until finally on the 4th try i got it
sly basalt
Yeah IDK what it overwrites to make the buildings go away.
sly basalt
I'm in the folder trying to find out what to copypaste from the documents system to delete all the buildings.
WHAT has it changed here?
sly basalt
So if I delete buildings.txt here it'll save me from this specific agony?
I purged that file.
And hopefully fixed the capital thing.
I want to be able to load the map from single player.
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 454
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:4997]: MAP_ERROR: (airports.txt) no air base site defined for state 909
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 909
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:4997]: MAP_ERROR: (airports.txt) no air base site defined for state 910
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 910
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:4997]: MAP_ERROR: (airports.txt) no air base site defined for state 911
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 911
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:4997]: MAP_ERROR: (airports.txt) no air base site defined for state 912
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 912
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:4997]: MAP_ERROR: (airports.txt) no air base site defined for state 913
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 913
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:4997]: MAP_ERROR: (airports.txt) no air base site defined for state 914
[19:13:39][strategicair.cpp:5018]: MAP_ERROR: (rocketsites.txt) no rocket site defined for state 914
[19:13:39][country.cpp:6716]: Attempting to set captial state #912 for Palestine, they dont own it!
What the hell does it mean?!
I CAN START A GAME AS ISRAEL.
I don't know why Jerusalem is down there or why what I want to be called Ramallah is called West Bank but those are problems for later.
Here are my current logs. No idea how to fix them, might save that for later.
š ±ļøruh it's calling this West Bank when I called it Southern Israel.
Yeah I know why.
timber zenith
RIP
sly basalt
From when 910 was West Bank I had it defined as that still.
So I changed the name in definitions.
OK now it's not letting me load a game.
OK apparently I just have to wait a bit.
This is a good start. IDK why Jerusalem is shown in the borders of West Bank but I think that's because it's so tiny.
OK, I now wanna change the name of those victory points.
Tel Aviv is good.
But I want Gaza Strip to be renamed Gaza City and West Bank to be renamed Ramallah.
How do I do that?
abstract burrow
whats up
sly basalt
I changed Palestine's starting ideology to non-aligned moderatism. How do I change the country's name back to Palestine? Right now it's calling itself the Free Mandate of Palestine.
I did it myself!
OK, how do I add modifiers to a country? I wanna make it so that Israel is embargod by Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Iraq and Afghanistan right from the start.
frank panther
Hey guys. How do i change my general's name or country leader's name?
timber zenith
But I want Gaza Strip to be renamed Gaza City and West Bank to be renamed Ramall...
localisation
there's a victory points loc file
sly basalt
I'll find it all out later.
@timber zenith what's the name of the localisation file that lets me change party names?
I wanna change non-aligned to Fatah.
sly basalt
I don't know how to change the name of the non-aligned party in Palestine.
timber zenith
i'll have to find it for you
sly basalt
Thanks ā¤ļø
timber zenith
Thanks ā¤ļø
parties_l_english
sly basalt
Thanks!
timber zenith
np
timber zenith
Thanks!
it doesn't have any mention of palestine so you should probaby make your own file
timber zenith
ok maybe it does lol
sly basalt
OK I have finally set up the starting conditions at least somewhat required for the focus tree.
NOW TO START WORKING ON THE FOCUS TREE!
Let's start with 3 basic focuses.
timber zenith
nice stuff
sly basalt
I'm gonna do them tomorrow.
bleak dragon
nudger file wont save
timber zenith
can't say i'm a fan of owb
timber zenith
nudger file wont save
wdym by that
abstract burrow
can't say i'm a fan of owb
Why not
I like to know everyoneās views
Not gonna judge
timber zenith
i dunno, I played it and just wasn't a fan of the style
bleak dragon
wdym by that
when i use nudger the file never save
timber zenith
What happens when you save?
bleak dragon
nothing
bleak dragon
What happens when you save?
just nothing but when i open supply on nudger it just crash
timber zenith
just nothing but when i open supply on nudger it just crash
normal
check the hoi4 folder in documents, changes are saved there
bleak dragon
wow thank a lot
frank panther
Is it ok to directly change a general's name through HOI4/common-characters folder then save it? Does it make any changes in the game?
timber zenith
Is it ok to directly change a general's name through HOI4/common-characters fold...
names are localised
it'll be in localisation
fiery owl
Hey guys, Iāve encountered a problem. The leader portrait that shows up for a country isnāt right although I have put everything as it is
I want to change my country leader from generic to Trotsky, I took his portrait from Soviet files and assigned him to my country but instead of Trotsky all the time shows up some random guy
fiery owl
does it show up as generic?
Yep
abstract burrow
did you do some code?
fiery owl
Iāve done the same for Bukharin and it works fine
abstract burrow
check for any wrong punctuation
frank panther
it'll be in localisation
uhm, and that means?
timber zenith
uhm, and that means?
localisation folder
fiery owl
uhm, and that means?
It has all the names as they are seen in the game
fiery owl
check for any wrong punctuation
Still not working
frank panther
sorry i'm just new to this. I just found the folder and saw the generals name. I was wondering if i could just rename them to a historical general for example in germany but don't really know exactly how
timber zenith
the name in the character file isn't the one shown in game (demonstrated by the "_" instead of spaces), it instead links to a localisation line, in this case one of the characters files in the localisation folder
bleak dragon
anyway to remove original country from history so i coul remove this errror
TUR - is missing a history file.
like this
frank panther
the name in the character file isn't the one shown in game (demonstrated by the ...
oh, is there any way to find the localisation folder then and change it there?
timber zenith
Why remove the country tho?
timber zenith
oh, is there any way to find the localisation folder then and change it there?
Yeah the folder is in the base game
localisation/english
which character are you changing
timber zenith
It's in the nsb_characters_l_english.yml file
bleak dragon
Why remove the country tho?
i not sure but it just the last error remain
timber zenith
i not sure but it just the last error remain
put the history file back
and it will be fine
frank panther
oh yeah i found it. Should i write the same name inside the dollar sign?
timber zenith
oh yeah i found it. Should i write the same name inside the dollar sign?
Yeah
frank panther
Thanks! I'll try it
bleak dragon
put the history file back
ah now the game just crash when it didnt start yet when it do something with checksum
timber zenith
what does the error log say?
bleak dragon
[19:53:16][country.cpp:6704]: Attempting to set captial state #64 for German Republic, it is not a valid state!
[19:53:16][country.cpp:6704]: Attempting to set captial state #126 for United Kingdom, it is not a valid state!
[19:53:16][country.cpp:6704]: Attempting to set captial state #219 for Russian Federation, it is not a valid state!
[19:53:16][country.cpp:6704]: Attempting to set captial state #141 for Sweden, it is not a valid state!
bleak dragon
what does the error log say?
here
bleak dragon
lets me try to change and see if it still valid
bleak dragon
that's unrelated tho
ah screw it not with the capital
i think i will empty all history file
timber zenith
what are you trying to do lol
frank panther
@timber zenith hey again, i actually tried it but the result ended with "GER erich_von_manstein" instead of the name i wanted to. Do u have any idea how to fix it?
abstract burrow
you havent given it a path
@frank panther
you need to make a characters_l_english file and copy GER erich_von_manstein:0 "Erich Von Menstein"
or something on those lines
frank panther
uhmmm where and how? do u mean in the same localisation folder?
abstract burrow
localisation -> characters_l_english
@frank panther
l_english:
SCO_Leader_General_John_Eagle:0 "General John Eagle"
my old one^
frank panther
you mean the nsb one?
abstract burrow
what?
abstract burrow
send me a picture of what you mean
frank panther
nsb_character_l_english. I changed his name there but in the game. it resulted to that
abstract burrow
try characters_l_english
frank panther
yeah
frank panther
abstract burrow
ohhh
i get it
try nsb_characters_l_english
not character
nvm you did that
hmm
@frank panther are you making a mod?
or editing the base game files
frank panther
editing base game files
abstract burrow
just making sure
dim steeple
Cool š
abstract burrow
its probably due to a non specified link
dim steeple
uhmmm where and how? do u mean in the same localisation folder?
Donāt know
frank panther
hmm so there's no any way?
abstract burrow
there is a way
but i dont know what your missing
as i dont have the files in front of me
frank panther
ahh i see.
How about changing also the name in common folder. There's a character folder in it right? is it just a notepad thingy?
abstract burrow
let me check
abstract burrow
How about changing also the name in common folder. There's a character folder in...
that could work
timber zenith
How about changing also the name in common folder. There's a character folder in...
What does the name look like?
timber zenith
You have to restart your game
timber zenith
this is the changed one
Yeah changing that breaks it
frank panther
i did. came back and then he gone
timber zenith
which is why you should change in localisation
and make your own mod instead of modifying vanilla files
frank panther
yeah, i might do just that. Thanks for the help by the way. elliot too. I appreciate it.
timber zenith
šÆ
abstract burrow
@frank panther
send me the character file code which you modded
the characters_l_english
obtuse condor
Can someone explain me how can I modify a mod in particular.
I want to change some flags from a mod but when I replaced the archives with another mod's the flag I've changed dissapears in game
earnest gull
someone know the code how to create a country leader
i tried create_country_leader = {
name = AFG_mohammed_zahir_shah
desc = "POLITICS_MOHAMMED_ZAHIR_SHAH_DESC"
picture = GFX_AFG_mohammed_zahir_shah
expire = "1965.1.1"
ideology = despotism
traits = {
}
} in hoi4 wiki but it didnt work
its maybe beacuse of the } idk
abstract burrow
you need to link it to files
earnest gull
@abstract burrow do you know whats the code to change ideology?
abstract burrow
<@1139198411590078585> do you know whats the code to change ideology?
change ideology - no
earnest gull
change ideology - no
thats a code or you are saying that you cant change it?
earnest gull
im actually realistically an ass dev
nah
earnest gull
i cant change it xf
rip
edgy solar
<@1139198411590078585> do you know whats the code to change ideology?
Is it not 'set_ruling_party = democratic' ?
earnest gull
Is it not 'set_ruling_party = democratic' ?
ill try
abstract burrow
Is it not 'set_ruling_party = democratic' ?
Thatās the console command
edgy solar
I cant remember it off the top of my head but I think that works
edgy solar
ill try
My bad its this
set_politics = {
ruling_party = democratic
last_election = "1932.5.1"
election_frequency = 48
elections_allowed = yes
}
set_popularities = { #This MUST add up to 100 otherwise the ideologies break
democratic = 69
fascism = 1
communism = 30
}
Taken from the wiki so it should work just fine
earnest gull
@edgy solar what is election frequency?
earnest gull
k
abstract burrow
@edgy solar your correct
earnest gull
@edgy solar also do you know whats the code to make a different person a leader
for example
lev trotsky will take power
and stalin will retire
edgy solar
Believe it this code
create_country_leader = {
name = "Ćdouard Daladier"
desc = "POLITICS_ĆDOUARD_DALADIER_DESC"
picture = "Portrait_France_Edouard_Daladier.dds"
expire = "1965.1.1"
ideology = socialism
traits = {
stout_defender
}
}
I'm just getting these all from the wiki
So if its outdated or wrong you can always look for an example in the base game itself
earnest gull
wait it works now ig
chilly field
How would I make a decision that when clicked cores all, (sounds broken ik but Iām tryna do debug things)
west fable
Any good mods for historical that donāt need every country to have a player?
modern oar
How can I make a superevent?
earnest gull
@edgy solar @abstract burrow how to create a civil factory in modding
i already know military factories "arms factory"
but idk civilian factory
abstract burrow
i already know military factories "arms factory"
isnt it the same process?
and have you tried using the nudge tool
edgy solar
<@988045084702441532> <@1139198411590078585> how to create a civil factory in mo...
I believe its 'industrial_complex'
earnest gull
and have you tried using the nudge tool
ima try later
earnest gull
I believe its 'industrial_complex'
wait
obtuse condor
@earnest gull
earnest gull
,
earnest gull
<@1049052505658621992>
?
obtuse condor
How can i get arms against tyrrany
earnest gull
How can i get arms against tyrrany
idk
im not a expert but ask other people
like @timber zenith and @abstract burrow or @edgy solar
abstract burrow
How can i get arms against tyrrany
arms against tyranny is a dlc
edgy solar
Yeah you've gotta buy it
abstract burrow
which you can buy
abstract burrow
then you cant buy it
edgy solar
Well thats not something we can fix, sorry bud
obtuse condor
Hmmm
edgy solar
Well sure but I'm not financially smart if that's what you're asking lol
abstract burrow
Well sure but I'm not financially smart if that's what you're asking lol
read your status
edgy solar
Oh
earnest gull
tbh i havent bought a single hoi4 dlc
same, i have only the cadet version
abstract burrow
XD
edgy solar
I forgot about that
earnest gull
anyone has ideas for focus tree names
im rn making a mod which ussr has a different focus tree
abstract burrow
anyone has ideas for focus tree names
The lonely road
abstract burrow
lol
earnest gull
@abstract burrow is there any code to get more factory output
abstract burrow
idk sorry
earnest gull
k
edgy solar
It would be a National Spirit you would make
obtuse condor
<@456226577798135808>
?
obtuse condor
Japan focus tree needs update
ofc
toxic bane
arts for japan , pls rate 0-10
š„š„
obtuse condor
@obtuse condor
obtuse condor
arts for japan , pls rate 0-10
my favorite is this
obtuse condor
<@456226577798135808>
?
Are you working at paradox
no
also i have arts for my country named georgia
obtuse condor
also i have arts for my country named georgia
@edgy solar what about this
toxic bane
<@988045084702441532> what about this
Make the man smaller, the flag needs more detail, the country needs to be bigger
edgy solar
<@988045084702441532> what about this
I like the last one the best, the rest are alright
toxic bane
But good
obtuse condor
Make the man smaller, the flag needs more detail, the country needs to be bigger
my country is little bro
toxic bane
I know but you almost can't see it
edgy solar
For the icons you should make it bigger
obtuse condor
yea i try make it bigger but the land cross the frame , so i dont any other way
lone pelican
why do none of my leader or general portraits work?
im doing exactly the same stuff as vanilla hoi4
and its just a generic guy
every single time
toxic bane
yea i try make it bigger but the land cross the frame , so i dont any other way
How did you get into modding?
obtuse condor
How did you get into modding?
im not modding , i am just make focus icons
all ideology in hoi4
obtuse condor
all ideology in hoi4
colonialism , faschism , communism , democratism , militarism and monarchism