challenge-questions

[chrome maple]

There wasn't a communist civil war 100%. Jean de Lattre and Alphonse Juin always switch to the communist side, as tested by @naive wyvern. In the screenshot she sent, you can clearly see them being used. While the run might not have been cheated, you cannot avoid the civil war (as proven, again, by w1zardj's game code screenshot) in a normal playthrough. This suggests that at least a glitch was used. @solid gust

[cloud wharf]

its not

theres a previous challenge for france

to kill germany

the physical fastest u can do it is like august july

[charred timber]

thats not true

m3an did it on 8th april

[cloud wharf]

look at the previous challenge

like a year back

granted that challenge required lux and bel

[charred timber]

rhineland is on the 11th march

you dont need 4 months to defeat germany

[cloud wharf]

u do

maybe less

but a month is impossible

because the ai can just stack u

like u cant sanke

since the ai just cas u to death

its tried before

the snaking way is insta death

[charred timber]

i misslooked

[cloud wharf]

u have to bait the ai into encirclements

[charred timber]

he need til 14th may

[cloud wharf]

for a month or two

[charred timber]

2 months is possible if you insane in microing

[cloud wharf]

.

i dont remember how fast i was able to do it

but its not 29 march

like i dont think the tanks can even move that fast lol

with zero resistance

[tacit sapphire]

@lunar saffron what path did u do

Little entente?

[jolly cobalt]

I guess the more creative and challanging the run was, the more it's likely to win?

[tacit sapphire]

Earliest

[solid gust]

its not just earliest, there is room for creativity

omg i cannot spell today

dear lord

[tacit sapphire]

Fr, I’m graet at speelng wrods

[signal frost]

Make Germany own all the world but France and it's empire, but not own any German cores.

That would be big brain

[tacit sapphire]

Make Germany do a world conquest, then fight them

[thick grail]

How is it possible to play Germany without having any Germany cores

[lean spoke]

I assume you let germany conquer a nation aka poland and take all of them then capitulate germany and annex them but leave them alive in Poland

[tacit sapphire]

Chak is everywhere

he could be you

me

in the walls

in the trees

or in yt shorts

[tiny swift]

IT does Not state, that you have to have Peace, right? Btw could the Winner choose Götterdämmerung?

[signal frost]

You do the challenge as France

[solid gust]

all challenges require you to be at peace

[signal frost]

Germany does Anschluss
Conquer Germany, leaving them as a puppet in Austria, give all land in future wars to puppet Germany

[solid gust]

and no you cannot win the gotterdamerung dlc, as it is not released

[signal frost]

Germany owns all land but Germany

[tiny swift]

You only have to be at Peace yourself right? What about mebers of faction?

[solid gust]

you cannot be at war

if your faction is at war that is their issue lmao'

[tacit sapphire]

How do creativity points work

[solid gust]

typically its the runs that are the least common, whether through differently ideology, different paths taken to achieve the challenge, or different end result

if we have 10 people going as democratic france, and only one person going communist, who is achieving similar time then i may lean closer to choosing the one person who's stood out

if that makes sense

[glacial stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u_hfDBrRxk

[tacit sapphire]

Golly

Ooooh

[tacit sapphire]

Gotta check Facist

Thank u

3 Facist

Hmm

[zinc parrot]

@dense kayak #challenge-submissions is only for submissions, usually this channel is used for comments/objections

[glacial stratus]

hoi4 players when reading:

[tacit sapphire]

🤓

[dense kayak]

sigma stalin

(from outside and inside)

[tacit sapphire]

Indeed

[lunar saffron]

yeah little entente

didnt know it was still possible after going the right path

could have done it 2-3 focuses earlier

but nvm

[chrome maple]

are we allowed to delete a submission and post a new one? @solid gust

[tacit sapphire]

Yes

[north garden]

Hey Chak, will this challenge be done with the 1936 German border, or will it include Austria?

[tacit sapphire]

1936 German

[zinc parrot]

You play hoi4 how are you allowed to say that😭

[tacit sapphire]

🤓

[zinc parrot]

This you?

[tacit sapphire]

[zinc parrot]

Liking minors does not make you that

[tacit sapphire]

Hoi4 minors?????

[zinc parrot]

No not in that context

[tacit sapphire]

What did u think I mean

[zinc parrot]

why are people leaving comments in the challenge submissions channel

[worldly surge]

Btw do I have to start as France?

[ornate thunder]

Read the rules

.

[grizzled folio]

did siam get fogus tree?

[glacial stratus]

no bogus tree for 🇹🇭

[tacit sapphire]

Frick!

[grizzled folio]

[teal topaz]

Where can I give proposition for new challange?

[zinc parrot]

Here

[brazen crater]

[teal topaz]

Ok

As Spanish occupy entire Germany

Ic could be named blue army/comeback of condor legion

[viscid nacelle]

can some one give me a challange that isnt to hard, but is still fun?

[teal topaz]

Conquer as china Japan and its home island

[glacial stratus]

just do Steam Achievements

or download Kaiserreich and do its achievements

if you want vanilla only then play as 🇹🇷 and form Turan

[signal frost]

As the Baltic State, form Nat Pop Germany in Kaiserreich

Achievement is called Please Touch Grass

[viscid nacelle]

thats what i usualy do

[zinc parrot]

Do the britskrieg achievement

Then go to war with Germany after that

[charred timber]

with the sultan in charge

or as provisional state of anatolia

[tacit sapphire]

@dawn tree

Wrong submission

[tacit sapphire]

and uhhh

u cheated as well

[chrome maple]

Nah, he just has a good gaming mouse

[tacit sapphire]

ohhhhhh

[charred timber]

Nah, that was just a sad try to be funny

[glacial stratus]

that bro really tuned into Sad FM, full volume

[charred timber]

F for that man, he must got bullied hard in school

[charred timber]

so after 6 days you still couldnt explain how you kept the communist generals? will you explain it at some point or are those allegations actually not crazy?

[dawn tree]

https://tenor.com/view/takumi-nishijou-chaos-head-steins-gate-anime-gif-27653854

[glacial stratus]

thought i was going nuts for a second, im glad somebody also noticed it

[zinc parrot]

@fickle river you need to prove that submission is in ironman mode

And achievement compatible

[empty lintel]

he did

on 1st image

[zinc parrot]

Sorry my mobile is hard selling😭😭😭

[tacit sapphire]

How are ppl doing this in 36

[chrome maple]

Spam naval invasions

Think like ai uk

[tacit sapphire]

Good idea

[raven nest]

@fickle river thats beautifl map

You deserve first place

[fickle river]

thanks man, appreciate it

[glad vector]

after all these border gore submissions, I hope the next challenge will involve painting the map in a (one) pleasing color 🙂

[tacit sapphire]

Not a lot of one color

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

Unite Europe as Luxembourg

[brisk sundial]

World conquest as democracy

That should be the next challenge fr

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528409

[signal frost]

Chak. I thought of the dumbest challenge for gotterdammerung...

Apocalypse Now!

Starting as Vietnam, annex the United States while having the helicopter special research project.

Is it possible, yeah... would it be fun? Debatable

[empty lintel]

i don't think he will do it since he does mostly challenges without having dlcs

[glad vector]

I always assume most players have most DLC's, but I might be wrong. I guess PDX can see how much of the players play with- or without DLC's? I would be interested in knowing those numbers 🙂

[fickle river]

what are you talking about, my whole run was just pleasing borders

[glad vector]

yeah yours was a work of art

all the rest was just paint splattering

including mine

[tacit sapphire]

36 is boring

So similar

[raven nest]

Yeah fr

Everyone can do it in 36

[fickle river]

but can everyone do it in 63?

that is the real question

a question only your pc can answer (it might explode)

[tacit sapphire]

63?

Bet

Will take 2 days to get to 63

[cloud wharf]

i mean technically wont the most nation split

also include austria and czech lands

[tacit sapphire]

Idk

[burnt panther]

No, it’s been clarified that it’s 1936 German borders. If you want to split up Austria and Czechoslovakia go ahead but it won’t help you for the challenge.

[tacit sapphire]

This gonna be a great peace deal

Czech owns Munich

Poland has ministers

Konisbetg

[raven nest]

Can someone do it in 2024?

[ruby thicket]

This is unironically possible

[glad vector]

There are a few democracies that can do this (uk, italy)

[brisk sundial]

I know, that’s why i said it

[brisk sundial]

Mexico too xd

Christian Republic Mexico

[glad vector]

mexico too really? nice

[glacial stratus]

@solid gust , question related to Ride of the Valkyries song , does it function like the pre order exclusive songs of the past DLCs, or can we purchase it separately after the Gotterdamerung releases?

[solid gust]

the song is only available to the expansion pass, however it is not a preorder bonus song, so you can get the expansion pass at any time afaik

It will not be included in a purchase of gotterdamerung

[north garden]

Chak the challenge ends today, right?

[tacit sapphire]

Tomorrow

[solid gust]

it should end today, I am still the mucho sick though

so will be late on sending it out

[whole holly]

Hope u feel better soon chak

[tacit sapphire]

^^^

[glacial stratus]

get well soon, big boss 🙏

[solid gust]

you are all too kind, I have been doing my best to keep up but I am a tad slower than I would like to be this week which has been a bit frustrating haha

[tacit sapphire]

It’s fine

A break now and then because of sickness is ok

[north garden]

I accidentally divided Germany into 24 countries instead of 23 by this way 🐧

[glad vector]

I'm sure you got contaminated by all the border gore you had to study. Get well soon

[north garden]

is this valid?

@solid gust

[solid gust]

as long as you get all the provinces split up in the 1936 germany borders it should be fine

[north garden]

2 countries in 1 province, I'm not sure if it's valid. xD

[solid gust]

technically that part no, but I am looking at the rest of it and it seems fine

since the conditions require you to not be at war, I would say the same would be needed by the two currently fighting in one province. I'd count that as one for whoever actually currently owns the province

[tacit sapphire]

I just noticed I’m at war

Damn it

Of course I notice it with 5 minute left to go

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[solid gust]

unlucky

but in general for the challenges you must always be at peace, because its the only way to make sure the borders you have are set in stone

[tacit sapphire]

Rigged

[north garden]

i thought it was valid since i wasn't in the war. As for how to make 2 countries fight in 1 province without involving me i think it would be pretty crazy to say xD

but anyway thanks for the answer

[solid gust]

you entry is still valid, that province cannot be counted as 2 countries, though, just isnt how it works

you can't guarantee them to not be at war but its moreso on logic, whoever owns it owns it at the time of the screenshot is what counts

edit: can -> can't

[tacit sapphire]

U release the new challenge in a few hours right

[solid gust]

it will be later today, correct

[solid gust]

@dire pivot do you mind going over how you achieved the end date? I'm assuming you used Paratroopers or capitulaed germany very early on with navy

[charred timber]

Thats a joke, right?

[solid gust]

I am asking for an explanation

until I get one, I do not count it

I am not accusing anyone of anything, simply asking for information

there are a few cheese strats that are possible with this

which is why I didn't make it a timed challenge as a baseline

[ornate thunder]

How long does he have time to give one

[solid gust]

they have another hour

I try to announce the new challenges at 11am EST

[charred timber]

i can answer that for you with simple math

so its at least not paratroopers

[chrome maple]

Just wait for the explanation because then she would also need to explain how she didnt get a civil war

[tacit sapphire]

I heard about cheating in Ironman

But I talked to her before and about this challenge

She is not the type too

[chrome maple]

I dont think she cheated, more likely used a bug to declare war on Germany jan 1st which would bypass rhineland and explain why there wasnt a civil war

[tacit sapphire]

Prob

[solid gust]

im slightly late, give me 2 moments as I am finishing up the assets rn

[tacit sapphire]

1

2

3

[glad vector]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-late-late-arms-crossed-gif-15929916

[solid gust]

HOI Challenge: Falk Off Already Rules:
-Must start as Argentina in 1936, in IRONMAN + Achievement compatible
-You cannot switch country at any time, but you also cannot use puppets this time around. None at all except the UK
-To achieve the goal of this challenge, you must puppet the UK (Excluding their own Puppets)
-This challenge will be TIMED The fastest run to achieve it will win. To confirm a winning entry, you must be available at least one hour before the new challenge arrives to explain your strategy and how you accomplished it.
If you cannot answer all the my questions, your run will be invalidated
-If you suspect a run to be invalid or are missing things, you may delete your submission and resubmit, but if you have more than one submission both will be invalidated
-If you suspect someone else's run to be invalid, please be respectful and let them know, no need to argue about it.
-For an entry to be Valid, you yourself must be at Peace. (Other faction members can be at war and whatnot but you cannot be) at the time of your screenshots.
-Required screenshots include showing the Ironman and achievements are compatible in the top right, simply having the trophy in colour is not enough, you need to activate the drop-down menu
You need one image showing the UK is your puppet and one showing that you are playing as Argentina (can be the same as previous image)

-Unit Restrictions: No Paratroopers at all, and as stated before no puppets (outside of the UK Itself) (this means you cannot use Puppet Man-power to help you out, essentially)

[solid gust]

nuh uh

(I am)

[naive wyvern]

you need to have the whole uk as puppet, or even one state will do?

[compact geode]

how are the winners decided? whoever sends it first?

[naive wyvern]

-This challenge will be TIMED The fastest run to achieve it will win.

[compact geode]

what about challenges not involving time?

[solid gust]

entire UK starting space

this includes northern Ireland

[solid gust]

not every challenge is time based, the most recent challenge before this was sorta time based but not really

the winners were chosen by a random number generator out of the ones with the most states taken by different nations

[civic sail]

Chak are you sure about the previous challenges rankings. I think DemGreBang should be first.

[civic sail]

Just saw this

Understandable

[solid gust]

I didnt specify the last challenge as time specific, so kept it fair with a random number generator out of those who completed it with the most nations

can understand that the timing could be a factor and have them win it instead but the RNG decided who takes the bag

that way there isn't any 'favouritism' and everyone who completed it got there by Merit already

[civic sail]

Thanks mate

[chrome maple]

Damn I thought it was time based

Due to this

But gg to everyone

[solid gust]

it was a combination of both, to be fair I probably didnt explain it well enough

essentially the fastest 5-6 times were put together within the RNG once I validated they had roughly the same amount of nations as the others

[chrome maple]

Yeah, that makes sense

[civic sail]

Your runs where absolutely insane, i couldnt even get close

[chrome maple]

Thanks, I thought it was time based so I did a lot of runs

[civic sail]

Me too mate

[tacit sapphire]

Is this timebased?

[solid gust]

yes, i pinned the new rules

[tacit sapphire]

K

[fickle river]

the fastest, more like the least skill based

painting borders is a real art here

as (almost) always, I see myself as a true winner

[tacit sapphire]

Hitler liked border painting

[fickle river]

depends where

he was very succesfull in France and Nordics

everywhere else, he was just as bad of a painter as everyone thought

[solid gust]

tbh I liked your submission quite a bit

[fickle river]

also, got to love no puppets challenge where our goal is to achieve a puppet

[solid gust]

You cant have a puppet other than the UK ok

people be cheesing the frontlines with puppet divs

smh

(ive also edited that into the rules for clarification)

am sick soz

[fickle river]

and do we need to puppet all of it or only mainland?

[solid gust]

all of the UK mainland and northern Ireland

dont need their puppets or other places

[fickle river]

nice

we will be cooking something with their intercontinental empire

you should have also incorporated welsh argentina (im not trying to write their name) to give some use to that releasable

but other than that, new challenge, new exploits to learn

[tiny onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-fine-fail-burn-dog-gif-5848141

[tiny onyx]

This will be a little bit difficult without dlcs but

Do I need to puppet just Great Britain and Northern Ireland or does it must be the whole empire?

[naive wyvern]

only britain, so mainland, northern ireland, isle of man and shetland islands

[tiny onyx]

Thx!!!

[tacit sapphire]

Shetland?

[naive wyvern]

doesn't uk core them?

[tacit sapphire]

A multiplayer challenge would be funny ngl

[solid gust]

yes and no

main issue would be because it cannot be verified that it wasn't cheated

[tacit sapphire]

Oh yeah

[civic sail]

Does the challenge need to be in historical?

[tacit sapphire]

No?

[solar cove]

oh no

no more para

[civic sail]

nice

[solid gust]

only if i specify it in the rules

and i did not

[civic sail]

ok ok thanks

[solid gust]

I like the wackier submissions/results 🙂

who knows, maybe communist canada will own the rest of the world

[tacit sapphire]

Argtenian colonial empire

[solid gust]

I have one challenge that I may bring out during the holidays that will make people hate me, but I might just not use it to save everyone's sanity

[tacit sapphire]

HEAR ME OUT

Santa Soviet Union

In 39 ish

Ahistorical

It’s rare

U get an event for a strange man crashing

[solid gust]

I already did the reverse of that, with the USA

[tacit sapphire]

Santa Uncle Sam?

[solid gust]

Uncle Sam-ta

yes

haha

[tacit sapphire]

Ahh

[solid gust]

I haven't done as many USSR challenges because every time i do, many people struggle even on the easier ones

which is not necessarily a bad thing, but I try to plan specific challenges that people are able to do in that case

[tacit sapphire]

Soviets are on of the easier countries

Def easier than this current contest

Despite my pfp I struggle with barb which I understand

[raven nest]

True youre the winner in our hearts

You didnt win but youre the winner

[solar cove]

hmm I have an idea

it really just comes down to how fast you can get the wargoal, right?

[tacit sapphire]

Prob

[fickle river]

i dont remember when i had that

so, I will be all for that

[tacit sapphire]

Which holiday

[fickle river]

Stalin planning a purge on holiday

[tacit sapphire]

Hi

Yup

[solid gust]

when using the phrase 'the Holidays' its usual intention is around Christmas, Hanukkah or other end of year celebrations

[tacit sapphire]

okkk

[glad vector]

the good news

the bad news: 5% war participation 😦

[tacit sapphire]

rip

[solar cove]

hmm

[glad vector]

probably not the fastest method, but I felt like an Edelman Argentina game

[glacial stratus]

are we allowed to grab codes as rewards from the new DLCs? (Ride of the Valkyries and etc.)

[solid gust]

no

its not released yet at the time of the challenge being announced, so those cannot be grabbed

I am also unsure as to when I can have them as prizes but the expansion pass itself will not be a prize

GDR, perhaps, but not the EP

[tacit sapphire]

Could I get a Big Mac from McDonald’s for my prize

(American currency)

[solid gust]

only if you buy me one first

[tacit sapphire]

Damn

[fickle river]

buddy, you literally have 2 puppets

also what is that puppet?

[glad vector]

Oh was that not allowed? Dutch east indies and argentinan britain

Can't see it in the rules, but I'm too slow anyway

[dire pivot]

Sorry for my late response just landed in Hungary after a long flight. I navalinvaded northern germany and snaked them while pinning their division I have already commentes on my run in this channel 🙂

I dont get how I didnt win? My run was the fastest and I did it according to the rules?

[empty lintel]

too late asnwer

[tacit sapphire]

Yah

[dire pivot]

What? Why am I late?

I shared my strategy like a week ago

[empty lintel]

chak asked how did you do it and you didn't answer so

so it got invalid

[dire pivot]

This message

[dire pivot]

I was in a plane above germany 😭

How should I know???

[empty lintel]

ok but how didn't you lose communsit generals

[dire pivot]

Idk why i didnt love them

Invaded the communist from behind aswell as the germans

I dont get why my run got invalidated. I already did what @solid gust asked me to do

And as far as I know there havent been a requirement to share a strategy before now?

Why does everything change out of a sudden with no warning

I spend way tp mucj Time om this and prevoius challenges

I dont get it i simply dont

I dont get why I am the only one to get questioned yet still being the only one to answer

[solid gust]

There is a requirement to share the strategy when I ask for it which is always the time right after I close submissions. If, when I ask, a potential winner will not answer, I cannot count the submission. Considering how fast your submission is, which outpaces the other submissions by nearly a quarter of a year, is why I still required a confirmation on how you did it. When I ask for confirmation of how something is done, I need a step by step. I always ask the fastest run submitter in a difficult challenge how they did it.

I did not single you out.

I have done this for nearly every 'difficult' challenge (the ones that require speed or specific requirements, unlike ones that say 'conquer XYZ nation as ABC nation) except the first few in which I was made aware that I should do so at the very beginning of me creating them as something I do.

The confirmation of how you do a strategy is needed the day I ask for it, I cannot go through 2 weeks of messages to get to find it. You needn't answer people asking you beforehand and I tell people to be respectful instead of accusing others. I even mentioned that I do not appreciate people accusing others of things in the first palce. You were not invalidated because I think you did something wrong, but because you couldn't answer me when I asked, and even then I still entered you into the Random Number Generator regardless because I figured you had an answer for it, you simply did not win it.

The top 6 entries were all added to the Random Number generator I use here https://www.random.org/

(long paragraph, TLDR: I still added you to the RNG at the very end, you simply did not win.)

[dire pivot]

Fair enough. That how it is, Ill make sure to share my strategy this time when I get home from Hungary.

[solid gust]

I can understand that is frustrating, and I apologise for that it is not my intention, I just do not have enough hours of the day to do everything myself.

Also to clarify fully, I should have explained the way the winner was chosen more clearly at the start, and that is my fault

[solid gust]

mentioned it here as well

I am not perfect but I am not trying to ruin anyone's day

[dire pivot]

I get it, we are all human after all. Just sad that ive spend hours upon hours to finally win but because I was on a stupid plane...

And the rng part

[ornate thunder]

You can still win this challenge

[solid gust]

It is simply unfortunate timing in that instance, correct, though I am very intrigued on how exactly you snaked your way through to capitulate them

[dire pivot]

I will spend every living hour to beat everyone 🕶️

[ornate thunder]

That’s what I thought in the iran challenge just to be beaten by 4days

[solid gust]

the current challenge is timed but I do want to see someone make the silliest submission while still speedrunning

[empty lintel]

i was thinking of trying it but i saw my navy dind't have range to reach uk

[dire pivot]

Invaded port under Hamburg and essentially snaked northern germany while pinning the germans in the rhineland/maginot

And got super Lucky with sinking thier PoTF to even further sink WS

[dire pivot]

Went on holiday at the end of the challenge so couldnt get a better time

[dire pivot]

Took many many many tries

[ornate thunder]

The challenge rn is possible in 1936 there musst be a way

[dire pivot]

Argentina beat UK right?

[ornate thunder]

Yes

[dire pivot]

Interesring

Should be fun

[ornate thunder]

Ich have a failed early 1937run it is 100% possible in 1936

[chrome maple]

The fact that some people still believe this run is legit is unbelievable. I get that Chak needs to be neutral in this type of things but there is too much proof to ignore. As someone who actually spent hours on this challenge, I'll tell you everything that is wrong with this submission.

1. You don't simply just get to keep the communist generals. In a normal way, it is not possible. The only way to do this is if you did not have a civil war, which is not possible to avoid.
2. Your number of troops is too high. You lose 20% to 25% troops to the communists. France starts with 74 divisions. You have 71. Releasing all puppets would give you a surplus of 4k guns, which would be nowhere near enough to train an extra 20 divisions.
3. You will not manage to naval invade the communists from behind. In every run of mine, I was able to naval invade only on the first day of the war with a pre planned naval invasion and after capitulating the communists. This is due to the communist navy being enough to stop your naval dominance. In the first days of the war, most of the communist army is on the coast, which would make it impossible to land behind them.
4. You claimed to have spammed 2 width inf/cav. Using 2 inf instead of 2 width cav is illogical due to the cavalry being faster than infantry, so we will say you used cav. To make a 2 width template, you would need to get 5 army xp. This could be done only after the start of war. Getting 5 xp would take some days, let's say around 4 days. Your run ends in 14 days, so you don't have time to train new divisions as it takes at least 20 days to do it, so let's assume you changed the template. You only have 6 cavalry divisions.

France starts with 6 cavalry divisions. (You usually lose 2 divisions to the communists but it is clearly at this point that you didn't have a civil war) You claimed to have spammed cavalry units, but you dont have more than 6. Changing the template again to infantry makes no sense, and you would not have enough guns for your army.
5. You claimed to have sunk the german pride of the fleet. You literally have 0 navy xp. You are not even hiding it anymore😭. On a side note, Germany gets a boost of 30 war support (20 war support from the defensive war, and an additional 10 that they get when deciding to remilitarize the rhineland anyway). Losing 10 wouldn't be enough to lower their surrender limit.
6. Your tactic of invading Hamburg will not achieve capitulation in 18 days. Germany still has 30 divs (32 divs when you go to war with them after rhineland), they will block you, and you will not be able to snake.
I think it's pathetic that you still keep trying to prove the authenticity of your run by lying so much. Saying you have sunk the pride of the fleet while having 0 navy xp is the stupidest lie I have ever heard. Nothing in the screenshot you sent allings with what you said. Please do better.

Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my first language and I just wrote this on my phone

[blissful berry]

yeah, this is pretty interesting.

[charred timber]

"I don't think she cheated, but she had a bug where germany declared earlier" Doesn't matter. Bug using is always invalid

[charred timber]

I dont get why you complain about people questining your run but at the same time you dont answer those questions

[charred timber]

no you did not. you just said you naval invaded. how did the war between you as france and germany started? rhineland event or anything else?

thats the reason people question your run

[charred timber]

why? does that mean bug using is from now on valid for challenge submissions or what?

[charred timber]

5. they get way more War support because germany is in a DEFENSIVE WAR
6. for the amount of vp's she cover, germany literally need 0% vp. however germany is normally at 60% if fleet is not sunk

[charred timber]

''Why, for a chance for a 10$ DLC? I'm doing the challenges for fun, I've used way too much time for this challenge and previous. And how? I only play on Ironman as far as I know its not possible to use mods which give like crazy modifiers or something like that and still be Ironman compatible?''

guys it was for fun but complains of not winning. with that, everything is said

[raven nest]

Exactly

[cloud wharf]

i mean its obviously occupation paint

u look at the troops placement

the troops are at the rhein river an berlin

u need a lot more vp to cap ger

[raven nest]

Girl_mc just admit that you cheated the challenge is over anyways

[cloud wharf]

likeu look at where the troops are and u can tell lol

plus i know the naval invasion strats

it doesnt work that fast

her submission for comparison

she doesnt even occupy the vp needed to cap ger

only way ger caps from that is if they are on an offensive war with like 0% ws but ger unfortunately for u gets into a defensive war and only - 10 ws from pride of fleet plus war fires on the 11th of march best case takes 7 days to plan a naval invasion. that means u have 18 days to snake for all those vp and thats not even considering the battles that would happen during ur naval invasions? Like if u cheat pls dont be that obvious

[charred timber]

I demand a ban from participating the next like, idk, 5 challenge. Otherwise that would be a sign of validation for cheating

[cloud wharf]

also u 100% can cheat in ironman

[charred timber]

ofc you can

thats why you have to differenticiate between what can be legit or not. you cant be 100% sure tho

[charred timber]

however this is to 100% not legit

[ornate thunder]

i like your texture pack what is the name of it

[charred timber]

i asked experienced speedrunners. all said, it cant be legit to their knowlegde of the game. thats why im waiting for an explanation of how she kept commie generals or winning without having any xp. maybe we all can learn something

[cloud wharf]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3119878556

[cloud wharf]

i mean she literally could just post her save games

and it would clear her name

[charred timber]

m3an sended me some of his save games

all his shit is real for example

with such save game files anything could be proved

the question is, will we see hers?

[tacit sapphire]

Could we just leave her alone

We know she won’t be able to counterargue

Since of all this proof and absence

[empty lintel]

no

[chrome maple]

I have to admit it went a little further than I expected. In my message, I wanted to explain how she cheated and to point out the lies she told in her response. I think we all made it clear that she cheated, and we can wait for Chak's final say. Until then, I'm pretty sure we can move on from this subject.

[tacit sapphire]

Yeah

Thank you

[empty lintel]

is it possible to beat uk with generic focus tree as argentina because i got no TOA

[chrome maple]

100%, almost everything is possible in hoi

[raven nest]

I would say its even easier

[empty lintel]

issue is trying to naval invade without uk putting ships in

[raven nest]

If u dont have dlc u dont have starting debuffs or anything to worry about

U can just do industry focuses while flipping brown or red idelogy then justify on uk and destroy them

[chrome maple]

Well this isn't an easy challenge, but I'm sure you can find a way around that.

[cloud wharf]

yea

[solar cove]

generic focus tree might be faster...?!

how much stab does no dlc argentina start with

[solar cove]

oh you can certainly do it then

definitely faster than dlc argentina

don't need to wait for the 60% support for cw

[ornate thunder]

problem is how to get to uk

[solar cove]

naval invade

[ornate thunder]

to far away

[solar cove]

ask for docking rights

lol let me try not to share my entire strategy

maybe i should try no dlc first

[ornate thunder]

does not work

[solar cove]

try harder

[ornate thunder]

my best time rn is 18.September 1937

[charred timber]

Topic was over until she came back yesterday and tried again to claim her run was legit

Thats the difference

Sure thing, lets leave cheating in competition unmentioned. 👍
Thanks for your wisdom Brosef

[solar cove]

in generic focus tree?

[ornate thunder]

no

[solar cove]

oh yeah that sounds about right

if you want to try I think generic focus tree allows you to get it faster

[ornate thunder]

i know it is faster

[glad vector]

Can we add a rule about not showing Mosley in the submission picture?

[fickle river]

no, WE LIVE IN A PERIOD

also i did not answer you yesterday, yes you are not allowed to have puppets

[empty lintel]

where politicians are not very popular

[fickle river]

*in which

[empty lintel]

i forgot the whole speech

[fickle river]

and believe me

you have my sympathy

i remember it

[glacial stratus]

We HAVE the resources

of energy

of intellect

[fickle river]

the only speech i can understand from him, others are just too bad quality

[fickle river]

of skill, of craftsmanship

second to none in the world

[cloud wharf]

is it he invade netherlands strategy through spain

[solar cove]

no it's even easier just docking rights

[cloud wharf]

damm

yea that actually is faster

[hearty glacier]

i agree with vaipts

[tacit sapphire]

It already ended and it got mentioned enough

It’s enough.

[empty lintel]

how do you naval invade with barely any ships

[tacit sapphire]

Wait

Hear me out

Justify on Ireland first

Then Britain

[empty lintel]

that wouldn't work because i think it's the fastest

and the fastest is september 1937

[tacit sapphire]

Oh

[empty lintel]

i landed but i tried to rush with cavalry and i just needed 1 vp to win lol

[tacit sapphire]

Rip

[empty lintel]

@civic sail just letting you know you can't participate again

you can submit but it won't get valid

[civic sail]

If i delete the old one?

Does it count?

[empty lintel]

no

you already won

[civic sail]

Huh?

[empty lintel]

you can't win again

if you already won

you will need to wait next challenge

[civic sail]

Ok mate no problem

[lunar saffron]

@civic sail pws to kaneis re

[civic sail]

Αυτο το challenge ?

[lunar saffron]

Nai

Egw dn exw dlcs mallon gia afto dn mporw

[civic sail]

Ουτε εγω

[lunar saffron]

I got 2nd place can i submit this time?

[tacit sapphire]

No

If u won last challenge

U can’t win this one

[glacial stratus]

you can submit your entry for fun, but you can't actually win prize for this one

(^if you still want to participate, of course)

[lunar saffron]

Ok

[solid gust]

To address the conversations in the channel while I was gone:

• I do not condone bug abusing for challenges and no that is not 'the way' it will be for the future
• Due to going through everything that does and does not make sense, I will be keeping certain people's runs in mind for the future, however I do no appreciate the dogpiling on another user. If you have a problem with a specific user's submissions, please gather proof of it and send it to me/a ticket so as not to fill this channel with drama
• If you win a challenge you are still allowed to participate, just not win the very next one (you get a one challenge lockout)
• The Challenges are for fun if you are not having fun you need not do them/ do them seriously

now how many people have had a cursed run so far

[glacial stratus]

off topic, but thx Chak for the quick response 🙏

[fickle river]

imagine having fun

[tacit sapphire]

Fr

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/good-times-have-fun-not-listening-gif-13398917

[charred timber]

https://tenor.com/view/hockey-only-game-bryzgalov-anahe-gif-8306971

[empty lintel]

@hoary rune you used paratroopers lol...

[hoary rune]

🤔

the best way to England

[ornate thunder]

read the rules

[empty lintel]

btw paratroopers are not allowed

[hoary rune]

tbh my troop are naval invasion

[empty lintel]

but you used paratroopers

[ornate thunder]

bro

[hoary rune]

the paratroops even not in Ireland

[ornate thunder]

so

[hoary rune]

🤔

[empty lintel]

???

[ornate thunder]

wtf

[hoary rune]

is just a command

[solid gust]

the Unit restriction means you cannot use it in any case

[empty lintel]

and he did have an active order

[hoary rune]

u can active without the troop on the airport

[ornate thunder]

what do you not understand about no paratroopers

[hoary rune]

🤔

[hoary rune]

okey I can easy copy that

not important

🤔

[ornate thunder]

.

you just ragebaiting at this point

[hoary rune]

tbh we can still naval invasion

That's easy to do again

I will re do later

its 0:05 for me im go sleep

[ornate thunder]

you need to delete your submission cuz it is invalid

[empty lintel]

did someone figure it out how to invade britain with no dlc

i mean i can land but then my cavalry get stopped

[hoary rune]

I make the paratrooper just for if the naval invasion fail I still have another choice

[ornate thunder]

you also did not pupped uk

[empty lintel]

then it's invalid bro

[hoary rune]

my bad is im not see the rule :3

[ornate thunder]

you cant use paratroopers

[hoary rune]

[hoary rune]

I can release it as pupped 😔

puppet

[ornate thunder]

yes but your run would still be invalid

[hoary rune]

🤔

I will re do it tomorrow

and tbh 2 sep 1937 is not the fastest day

I waste 70 days i think

how to see the rule

[tacit sapphire]

U mean no TOA?

[hoary rune]

tbh I even not find the rule

[tacit sapphire]

I will try

[ornate thunder]

.

[hoary rune]

😂

[empty lintel]

yes

[ornate thunder]

here

[empty lintel]

my divisions get destroyed and pinned and that's why i can't rush

[hoary rune]

🤔

[hoary rune]

😭

never find that

[ornate thunder]

it is pinned

[hoary rune]

🤔I even dont know we have rule...

this is my 1st challenge

[ornate thunder]

now you know

[hoary rune]

I will re do it tomorrow :3

[ornate thunder]

ok

[hoary rune]

I think I can have a early date

I still improve my strategy

hmm when this challenge end

[solar cove]

skill issue

But no toa should allow you to get it faster

[empty lintel]

and harder lol

[solar cove]

Hmm you still get 15 divisions right?

to invade

[empty lintel]

the max limit for naval invasion is 10

[hoary rune]

🤔

[solar cove]

marine doctrine

[hoary rune]

try multiple times

[empty lintel]

no aat lol

[hoary rune]

horse is the fastest way

to make these challenge

[empty lintel]

i already tried like 9 times

[hoary rune]

hmm

ignore them

can u landing on England

[solar cove]

do the invasion cap exploit

[empty lintel]

does that still work?

[hoary rune]

got all dlcs

[solar cove]

think so

if you can only land 10 divs it might not be enough

[hoary rune]

its enough

🤔

but might be need some save/load

and front retreat

[solar cove]

ofc

I didn't even get London in my first invasion

I had to do a second kne

After they move divisions out

[hoary rune]

hmmm

I have all dlc rn,if i win the challenge is it allow i send it to other people as gift?

🤔

[empty lintel]

yes

[hoary rune]

is it allow me got no step back preorder bouns that's the only dlc i dont have

bcs I dont know it has preorder bouns sob

😭

[empty lintel]

no you can't get preorder

[hoary rune]

sob

😔

[chrome maple]

10 divs is enough

i managed to cap uk multiple times with 10 divs

you just need to plan your landings very well

[solar cove]

yeah i probably didn't

did you do collab?

[empty lintel]

can you rush a collab that early?

[chrome maple]

I didn't but you could try a collab

[tacit sapphire]

U can prob only get 1-2 collabs on them

[ornate thunder]

Collab is only possible when you play with toa

[teal topaz]

Why this new challange is able only for people with dlc trialing allegiance?

[solar cove]

it's not?

[teal topaz]

Yep

Without dlc I will get naval supimacy in 1937 and conquer uk

Don’t make me laught

[solar cove]

what difference does the dlc make?

whether you get supremacy or not depend more on the uk

[teal topaz]

Idk like any focus to dad become fasist and join axis

[solar cove]

you don't?

just get supremacy and directly invade

[teal topaz]

Rangę

[solar cove]

docking right

[teal topaz]

-100

In relations

+more generals and better factory tree

P2win 100% sad true bro 😭😭

[ornate thunder]

Wtf

[glad vector]

oh hey, that invalidates my run too. Weird to have the no puppets rule under unit restrictions though

[solar cove]

I don't think any of those matter

[chrome maple]

Nah, actually I think it's more likely p2lose

I think non dlc is faster

[solar cove]

i haven't played without toa so i'm not 100% sure

[glad vector]

can probably switch ideology faster

[solar cove]

but i don't see any reason why not having dlc would make it harder

and in fact yeah you should get it earlier

[ornate thunder]

I did not want leak my best run but i have mid july 1937 without toa

I actually have toa and tried it no dlc is faster

[glad vector]

yeah makes sense. Generic focus tree is op 😉

[ornate thunder]

There was a time where you could switch fashist fast with the fashist demagogue with toa but they removed it

[cloud wharf]

lmao u expect people to hand feed u their strats

its faster without toa

[hoary rune]

toa focus will make u cost more time on change the goverment

fascist branch need 380days

and communist branch need 280days

[ornate thunder]

I know

[strange tendon]

Where did you get the lennard mod menu?

[cloud wharf]

Its not actually made by lennard or dankus

The cheat dev

Is just trolling

[strange tendon]

🤔

you sure?

[cloud wharf]

Yes

[blissful berry]

wow, good job!

i got something a bit worse 😦

how did you do it?

[ornate thunder]

When the challenge is over i can explain

[violet phoenix]

Surely a strat could be go facist, join the axis, paratroppers?

Your main problem would be the air, but you could try and catch the ai with it's pant's down

[empty lintel]

no paratroopers allowed

lol

[violet phoenix]

Oh

Where did it say

[empty lintel]

on pins here

[glad vector]

resubmitted, this time without extra puppets. Still late, but it was a nice with-DLC run

[charred timber]

no fanny edelman? get out

[glad vector]

Thought i'd try the other one. 10% division attack, among other things

[hoary rune]

🤔

can we do the challenge without open dlc?

@ornate thunder

[chrome maple]

Yes

Not everyone owns all of the dlcs

[hoary rune]

time to make a new record :3

[chrome maple]

Well good luck

[tacit sapphire]

There is no way I’m winning this so I’m not going to even try

[hoary rune]

Why die for falkland islands...

[hoary rune]

I got it

[solid gust]

gonna poke my head in here to remind participants that if you post a new run, you have to delete the old one or both are disqualified

[chrome maple]

Congrats, but I see Skygamer was prepared

[hoary rune]

👌

[hoary rune]

me too

[hoary rune]

finally

@ornate thunder Only 1 day faster than u

This is the fastest with toa...

😔

too many save/load...

😔

[chrome maple]

The rivalry goes hard

[hoary rune]

[chrome maple]

Disable toa then

[hoary rune]

marx vs mossolini...

[hoary rune]

I am waiting his new record

[tacit sapphire]

By a day…

[ornate thunder]

Im realising my best run at the end

[chrome maple]

Smart

[hoary rune]

[chrome maple]

Well the challenge is ending soon

I'm wondering how many people will submit their run at the last minute

[hoary rune]

😔 tbh i have all dlcs so i dont care the award

if u really want dlc i can quit

[chrome maple]

You don't need to do the challenges for dlcs, you can do them for fun

I can't even win this challenge cuz I was 3rd place in the last challenge

But I still do it for fun

[hoary rune]

the challenge is only skill issue now

time to do without toa

[chrome maple]

I mean there is still some rng in it

[tacit sapphire]

U could give me one…

I’m open to donations

[hoary rune]

now we basic the same way

im using motor now...

truck*

🤔

[ornate thunder]

how are you using truck

this early in the game

[hoary rune]

build

argentina has truck tech

[ornate thunder]

yeah but you cant make enough in time

[chrome maple]

@ornate thunder You have 2 submissions

[ornate thunder]

Oh sorry forgot

[hoary rune]

hmm early March is possible

[broken path]

im interested how are peopel doing this in early 1937?

using toa argentine navy to just get a sec of superirotiy to naval land?

[solid gust]

there'll most likely be an easier explanation once the challenge ends since I will require the winning submission to explain their strat

speaking of challenge ending, this challenge ends on Friday this week since I have a few too many things to do this week (its jam packed)

[chrome maple]

Something like that

[hoary rune]

yes

basically

[hoary rune]

1936！

@ornate thunder@chrome maple

[chrome maple]

@ornate thunder Just a reminder you have 2 runs submitted

[ornate thunder]

??????????????????????

[chrome maple]

They have a claim on you and because the wt is 100% they usually justify on you

I was also declared on by the USA and France because I stole the UK’s navy and went over the limit of the naval treaties

Game gets silly if you kill UK in 36

[charred timber]

that belgian focus tree is stupid and has no focus to annex luxembourg. I love it

basedest focus in the belgian tree

[fleet quail]

the french horse and the red rider

[empty lintel]

when does the challenge end

[ornate thunder]

friday

[empty lintel]

i thought it ended today like before

[ornate thunder]

.

[solid gust]

yeah sorry, it ends tomorrow as I had too much to do today

[solid gust]

To be more Clear, Entries will close at <t:1730462400:t> tomorrow

[hoary rune]

🤔

@ornate thunder@chrome maple

23:48 for me now...so this is last run

[empty lintel]

your getting outrunned in every runl lmao, skygamer is prepared

[ornate thunder]

@chrome maple ok you want this

[chrome maple]

Well Lvtoumao finished

So we are the only 2 left

Sadly this might be my last run

[ornate thunder]

good

because i have something.....

[chrome maple]

I'm still waiting for your best time

[empty lintel]

i can't even cap the uk as argentina lol

[chrome maple]

@ornate thunder Well I'll give it one more try when I get home (Also you have 3 runs submitted)

[ornate thunder]

thanks for reminding me

[tacit sapphire]

This is why I’m not doing this challenge

Absolute sweats

[solar cove]

hmm

[tacit sapphire]

Step up yo game guys

[ornate thunder]

Wtf

[chrome maple]

Damn

[ornate thunder]

Nah

How

[chrome maple]

By the looks of it he used the same strategy as me and lvtoumao

Just got luckier with something

[ornate thunder]

How did he get the wargoal so fast

[chrome maple]

I mean there are 6 mins left so I guess I can tell you my strategy

You wait for the german civil war and declare on fascist germany

Then on UK

I usually capped UK around 1 of september

[tacit sapphire]

I know full well he waited for this time to submit

[ornate thunder]

Omg

[chrome maple]

But bc of the civil war not ending I would still be at war with Germany

I guess he got luckier and the civil war ended faster

[ornate thunder]

GG i guess

[chrome maple]

What was your strategy?

[tacit sapphire]

Bro literally put it in rice

That’s how he won

[ornate thunder]

I used portugal

[tacit sapphire]

We get the new challenge when?

[chrome maple]

That's how I started

[chrome maple]

Probably today

[ornate thunder]

Do you think the next one will be a random winner

[chrome maple]

Probably

Tbh this was my second challenge so idk how they work

[tacit sapphire]

It’s definitely a menguko world conquest

[ornate thunder]

I have all the dlc and packs im just getting the dlc for a friend i have no use for music pack

[chrome maple]

I mean you could delete the submission and try to win the next one

But next challenge I'll also be able to participate😈

[chrome maple]

One can hope

[ornate thunder]

Pls

Or something like the iran challenge

[chrome maple]

Luxembourg world conquest when?

[tacit sapphire]

Form the middle east

That’s prob easy ngl

[ornate thunder]

Anyone want a music pack

[tacit sapphire]

Uhhhh

Sure

Free is free

[ornate thunder]

Just tell me what you want

[chrome maple]

Indeed

[tacit sapphire]

U can get armour packs or armour pack right

[chrome maple]

Yeah

[tacit sapphire]

One sec

[ornate thunder]

@solid gust

[tacit sapphire]

Allied armour pack 🔥

[hoary rune]

declare on Germany will cost 55-60days

and UK cost 20days

U only need wait Germany civil war end

[ornate thunder]

@solid gust can we have 1 more hour please 😁

[hoary rune]

its faster than u only attack UK

[native condor]

💀

[hoary rune]

and its depend on ur luck

and if u are lucky

[chrome maple]

Tbh 1 hour might not be enough

[hoary rune]

Soviet union will declare war on Turkey

[chrome maple]

Today I spent around 90 mins to get a better time and couldn't

[chrome maple]

Also Italy declaring war on Aussa

[ornate thunder]

Hope

[chrome maple]

That's like 3% wt

[hoary rune]

u can help Germany in civil war

that will be help

[chrome maple]

One time I managed to get a piece of Germany

[hoary rune]

so we basic same strategy

[chrome maple]

100%

[hoary rune]

only need more try

[chrome maple]

Yeah

[ornate thunder]

Too late🫡

[hoary rune]

but our run make the record from oct.1937 to sep.1936

[chrome maple]

For the next timed challenge, I’ll be looking for your run. @ornate thunder @hoary rune 🫡

[hoary rune]

communist dont have the –80% buff

[ornate thunder]

👍

[hoary rune]

thats why I choice fascist at the last try

[hoary rune]

🫡

[ornate thunder]

Where is chak

[chrome maple]

Probably working or something cuz he said he has a lot of work

[solid gust]

You would be correct, and no you cannot have one more hour, I still need to go through every submission myself, and prep other work for today so I cannot delay it.

Though I do appreciate the enthusiasm

[tacit sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[solid gust]

@opaque yacht I am going to need you to fully breakdown the way you accomplished the challenge (as is the case with all 'difficult' challenges winners) so that I can properly verify it. You will have until 10AM eastern to answer or I will go with the next best challenge submissions and yours will be marked invalid.

which would also mean that @ornate thunder you need to be on standby in case this chap here does not respond 👍🏻

[opaque yacht]

yes i am here

basically i switched to fascism asap(with a civil war), started justifying on fascist germany(you need the german civil war), declared on them, ask for military acces from non aligned germany, justify on uk and plan a naval invasion in uk from germany, move army and navy to germany and declare on uk, after landing rush victory points and cap (usually i dont land on ports because they have troops on them, only exception is the south port) and then puppet uk and annex the rest

if you want i can tell you where i land on uk

[ornate thunder]

👍🫡GG man

[opaque yacht]

gg

[opaque yacht]

is this ok @solid gust or do you need more detailed?

[solid gust]

where did you land exactly?

not doubting it, just for posterity's sake

[opaque yacht]

one second i need to look at the map because i dont know the names

[tacit sapphire]

Singapore

[opaque yacht]

i drew bc some locations dont have a name

also lines to where my divisions go

[opaque yacht]

also depends on how ai reacts to naval invasions, but 85% this would cap uk

[solid gust]

alright, that suffices, thank you

I have a meeting to go to now, but the winners will be announced in 3 ish hours or so (i have more than afew things to do before announcing winners i just needed to tally things up before I get sucked into the meetings loop)

[empty lintel]

but doesn't uk put their navy when you justify on them?

[opaque yacht]

yeah thats why you invade from germany

most of their ships are near argentina

you can try my strategy if you dont believe me

[empty lintel]

my tactic was to justify on south africa since they don't put mavy if you attack a uk puppet

but i never got to cap them lol

[tacit sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935989994735169546/1300570645997948940/salami-lizard.gif?width=376&height=622

[empty lintel]

no challenges till november 28th sad,,,,

[ornate thunder]

☹️

[chrome maple]

@solid gust I was 3rd place on the last challenge too, @hoary rune should be 3rd place

[solid gust]

I know, but I need time to come up with the challenges themselves themed around the DLC content, as well as other things

[solid gust]

ah, I copied the wrong ID, you are correct.

I did mean for them to get it, my apologies

[empty lintel]

so when gotter releases, in the next challenges can we get it?

[solid gust]

That I am unsure of, though I will ask

there may be some time before I am allowed to add it to the potential prize pool

since its apart of the expansion pass it may not be in it for some time, but that is not my decision

[glossy heart]

Wait is this questions from the players to the devs about exact challenge terms or questions from devs to make sure the players didn’t cheat in the challenge?

[solid gust]

this is essentially the discussion channel for the challenges I put out every 2 weeks

It is also the place where people can ask about the extra rules of the challenges, how to do certain strats or other things, as well as the place I ask people to give me step by steps of how they achieved certain challenge when there are specific requirements in a 'difficult' one

[tacit sapphire]

Noooooo

[barren merlin]

is there a price

[tacit sapphire]

Wdym

[barren merlin]

like can you win something

if you do a lot of chalenge s

[tacit sapphire]

Yes

[barren merlin]

what can you win

and when do you win

[tacit sapphire]

DLC if first place

Armour/music if 2nd of 3rd

[tacit sapphire]

In 4 ish weeks

No challenge currently

[tacit sapphire]

Challenge idea: with uncolinized Africa reclaim the British empire

If there is way to release puppets

That too

[chrome maple]

So set africa to decolonized in game rules and conquer the colonies back as UK?

[tacit sapphire]

Yuh

[barren merlin]

but i repeat my question when do you win

[barren merlin]

nice idea btw

[chrome maple]

It depends on the challenge

Sometimes the fastest run wins

Sometimes it's rng

[barren merlin]

do you think i could get a pre order bonus instead of the first prize

[chrome maple]

I'm pretty sure you can't get preorder bonuses

[barren merlin]

to bad

[chrome maple]

The problem with this is that you need to change the game rules and the run won't be compatible with achievements

This is how it will look

[tacit sapphire]

yeah

noticed that

[chrome maple]

But it would have been a fun challenge idea

[tacit sapphire]

yeah

[raven nest]

U could conplete decolonization path first

Then reclaim your empire

[glad vector]

do communist UK path and imperial federation, then survive

[idle sequoia]

that s actually not that hard

u keep everything annexed but a puppet that you will train divisions with. park them inside ur main islands and delete ur army. then use their divisions in the civil war

and after that u do imperial fed

[raven nest]

No he meant do imperial federation before cw happens

So that u get cores on canada and australia and other stuff

So it will be really hard cw

[idle sequoia]

does that split your other territories too?

[raven nest]

Im not sure but i think yes

[idle sequoia]

damn it would be hard as well ngl

[glad vector]

and if its not hard it would certainly take long with cores all over the world....

[glad vector]

not my picture. But that would be an interesting challenge. 'The Nuremberg Trial' - encircle as many german divisions on Nuremberg as you can

[tacit sapphire]

As any nation?

Does time count?

Or just how many

What if I play Germany and get all my divs encircled on Nuremberg

I’m a genius

[unique rune]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-angry-goku-goku-stare-death-stare-kid-buu-gif-7537122150460177467

[grave delta]

When will the next challenge happen?

[tacit sapphire]

28 of this month

[grave delta]

oh ok

[glad vector]

since most challenges must be possible without the DLC I would wager the next one is either a historic germany or a special projects related one 🙂

[cloud wharf]

special projects is base game?

[solid gust]

Some special projects and raids are base game

because there are 'generic' variants of them, and then there are special ones or historical ones i believe

[cloud wharf]

oh

[solid gust]

First challenge was not going to be Germany but I had changed my mind, I am still trying to figure out what it should be, whether it relates to S.P. or a general conquering one to use the new tree

[tacit sapphire]

Restore burgundy?

Should be an easier one

[obtuse radish]

Fr

[tacit sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-drive-flip-gif-5480671772097000575

[signal frost]

How about this for a challenge.

Blitzkrieg! Take out the Allies in the shortest amount of days possible (not date, but how long the war lasted)

No paratroopers

[charred timber]

holy roman waffen-ss

[prime lotus]

Why is Himmler black? Why u playing the censored edition?

[charred timber]

Why not?

[prime lotus]

I mean it's interesting for me